Native Titan X 12.5 VS Hobie Pro Angler 14

[@51ddb]

Good input. Very thoughtful comments. The propriety H rails were one of the things that moved me toward the Native. I just visited Rock town last week to look at the 12.5.

[@canyonfishing]

Both great yaks, not even an owner of either but the hobie seems to have so much more deck space if that’s what someone wants.

[@_Lt__Dan_]

Nice video. I’m a Pro Angler guy and came from a Native Titan. When i saw the X it was intriguing but the hobie drive itself for me beats the titan. The storage inside the hull is a much bigger deal for me than i thought. Some things on the X like the battery storage would be nice but my biggest complaint i had with my Titan was the thru hull rudder. Just wasn’t a fan of it. If someone could combine the two together it would be the perfect fishing kayak. 😂

[@Hawkinszm1]

it would be cool to see the hobie drive in the titan

[@ds-zd9qz]

Hobie > native. Natives are cool if you wanna be in ankle deep water just by sitting in the kayak.

[@tommyg5095]

​@ds-zd9qz true of the older Native, but that was remedied with the newer X...?

[@Larry77777]

Really good side-by-side walkthrough. (Only two statements I thought were off were the length and weight capacities - but anyone buying would look up the mfr's specs). Again, well done!

[@basserbestt4063]

Thank you!

[@jackstein5486]

I own the PA 14 and love it. A buddy of mine has the titan and it always has water in it. I also prefer the drive system. Also, most of us run a motor in the back and there are mounts and foot steering that make it super sweet.

[@MrHamburgerler]

Paying hobie money to throw a trolling motor on it? why get a hobie then? Theres a thousand better options

[@jackstein5486]

@@MrHamburgerler A stern mounted motor helps cover water and with foot controls is hands free. I fish bass tournament and the majority of the field uses electric motors. I still use my rudder and mirage drive.

[@ds-zd9qz]

Natives are like sitting in a kiddie pool fishing

[@themadscientist5025]

Hobie Pro Angler 14 holds 600lbs not what you stated 360 ....

[@piesquared1025]

The rudder issue shouldn't be a problem once you get wheels on it. I'll take the instant reverse titan all day.

[@Blueline55]

Thanks man for the comparison.. native titan x.. let's gooooo....now I just need the $$$

[@garydennis5178]

Xi3 on the hobie is front-end heavy. I came from pa14. Once you experience it on the X. It is much more stable with the Xi3. Put the scuffer in halfway when you have the Xi3. I 100% like it more than the pa14. Wouldn't of thought that, but it's a great yak the X is.

[@basserbestt4063]

This is what I want to hear!

[@YakSquad]

Crank down the pedal arms really hard. Put more lithium grease in drive. On the inside put goop on rudder line. I have natives for years and great kayaks. When I worked in a kayak shop at a.c.k I saw hobie in our emergency room all the time for cracks and drive etc issues. You can go on yak squad and see where the ideas me and woody Callaway came up with .

[@YakSquad]

Be a game changer add hobie wheels to boonedox landing gear . They will also fit groovey.

[@donaldblank8873]

Everybody has tons of gear, poles, batteries, tackle boxes ,tackle, very unnecessary, never a fish box, tank wells are always full of bags and boxes. Never a gaff holder. The most important thing on a kayak is open space. To move around. Stability. Place to put your fish. And a fat rudder so you can steer when you're on the water.

[@morsebaittackleco.5250]

Just got my native Titan X 12.5 last week and I think my only complaint so far, is just the rudder handle, I mean it works and sure you can buy a Burley pro metal handle but for a kayak that was almost $4,000 out the door, that stock rudder handle is so cheap feeling compared to everything else on the boat.

[@basschaser9356]

Native took a lot of ideas from nucanoe unlimited. Great kayak

[@Baseballisdrip3y]

Would the native titan be good on saltwater

[@Osprey1955]

Two things to consider. The Hobie fin drive is far superior to the propeller drive and with the Native, you can expect to have two inches of water in your cockpit at all times.

[@garydennis5178]

The rudder thing is not the best. I put the sidekicks on it. Helps 100%. It's worth the money.

[@TheFishingMommy]

The drive is pretty important.

[@Mister2You]

Yep, love the Hobie drive, and the PA14.

[@adamfranklin9062]

Great review! Wouldn’t you want a kayak trailer instead of throwing it in the back of the truck?

[@basserbestt4063]

I have a trailer when I travel. I usually just wheel it out back tho

[@Mister2You]

Pretty soon fishing yaks will be so big they'll call them bass boats.

[@BrettC1973]

Came from a PA 12 360 to a titan x 12.5. Hobie is great but there's really no comparison. Never like the H-rails. Too high and you have to buy lots of extras just to mount stuff. Stability is night and day better on the Native.

[@tommyg5095]

Could you please address this... Many people commenting on the " NATIV'E'S " dryness issue... I have heard the problem of having to sit in a deck full of water has been resolved in the New Titan X, as compared to the older model. Thoughts, comments, concerns, would be great useful and appreciated by anyone seriously looking to purchase the Titan X 12.5...

[@eltonwadlow]

@@tommyg5095I have a slayer max 12.5 and only ever deal with water on the deck on rough water days, either due to wind or pleasure boaters. Never understood the complaints about water, as you can just pull the scupper plugs and it runs right back out..

[@Gator-xi2jq]

Native titan has to have a motor on it because it paddles like a barge.

[@YakSquad]

Hobie tough tire ai. Mariner sails has the wheels . I would put those on a groovy or boonedox.

[@VioletKepae]

How much for da hobie

[@basserbestt4063]

3,500

[@VioletKepae]

Where u from

[@basserbestt4063]

@@VioletKepae illinois

[@BassManStrikes]

Sidekick is junk....roll pins bend. Just look around and you will see sidekicks with one wheel lower than the other. A cart with 2 inch center pvc bunks at 8 inch on center is a superior solution.

[@YakSquad]

Lol reast in peace hobie.

[@seanmyhre1305]

Ordered the Titan X 12.5 in the grey color. When will you have a on the water video up?

[@basserbestt4063]

Just put one up today

[@donaldblank8873]

Jeez where's the stereo and speakers. Putting a boat like that on the ocean would be dangerous, Or the simple fact you have tons of tackle and you would be digging in the box is all the time and not paying attention to the swells, I don't believe kayaks are meant to be floating stores.

[@donaldblank8873]

I've been kayaking for a very long time and I have learned less is better. You roll over in the water you wanna be able to get back in. And if you drag your fish over the side of the boat expect to see sharks. Not kidding

[@gabrielm.4554]

Prepare to be disappointed

[@basserbestt4063]

I guess what makes you say that? Just wondering.

[@gabrielm.4554]

@@basserbestt4063 Natives are great! I have both as well, but the hobie is a better boat. hows that new seat working out?

[@basserbestt4063]

@@gabrielm.4554 so far no issues with my seat. It’s one of the biggest things I like so far. I like how high I sit and how I am able to rotate around to get things behind me. The drive in the hobie is superior. The speed is better on the hobie, and the weight. My biggest gripe about the native is the weight.

[@gabrielm.4554]

@@basserbestt4063 thats a heavy boy