Naval Ravikant - Life is a Single-player Game (The Case Against Society)

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[@devikassum5036]

“Not wanting something is as good as having it” - wow ! Freedom: The state of no lack!

[@pikiwiki]

freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose

[@1l14cu5]

I don't know if this is a good idea to be honest, a denial of your own need for belonging. "I don't need anyone..." - every lonely person ever.

[@ehtisham.1878]

I don't want food ever - Dead Guy

[@devikassum5036]

@@1l14cu5 I think it’s more like - Loving without grasping , without conditions. Not excluding oneself from life , but being fully available to love , without it being a transaction

[@njorogekamau3820]

@@1l14cu5 Needing other people makes you needy. You should first craft yourself to be strong on your own, then when you integrate with society, you will integrate from position of strength. If everyone in society strives to be self-reliant, the society will be strong as a whole.

[@Diogenesthegreat01]

Naval is a real life genius. He breaks down life in a very simple way. Many things that we would just see as randomness actually has meaning and strategy.

[@PickingNuggets]

agree!

[@bigbox1431]

When I was born I got put into a 4 player lobby immediately. Didn't have to wait in any queues. Mom + Dad + Sister + Brother carried me hard. Life is multiplayer baby!

[@SHANONisRegenerate]

Oh yea philosophy isnt for everyone

[@parthoasis]

@@SHANONisRegenerate hahahah

[@mrrohitjadhav470]

When I started my business it was a single player gamer but that's true i got clients and wealth with multiplayer game but when I got down in business it comes back to single player my decision and action made me who and where i am

[@ianstambaugh6158]

@@SHANONisRegenerate Haha! It's sad to see that you think a billionaire teaching the 'philosophy' of hyper-individualism is interesting, deep or unique.

[@SHANONisRegenerate]

@@ianstambaugh6158 philosophy is philosophy. My point was some key points in the talk have not been understood.

[@guntherhofer1424]

Gives me chills, in a positive way.... There is a magnitude of truth in these words.

[@Quickeasyguitarlessons]

“Are you smart enough to figure out what you want in the first place?” 😯

[@PickingNuggets]

Awareness of mimetic desiring might be a good step on having more clear your genuine intrinsic desires 🤓

[@jamesl2590]

Which is why I always believe the meaning of life is LEGACY, regardless of one is poor/rich, sick/healthy. LEGACY is what fuels human determination for millions of year. It is all about what good YOU (as a single player) can leave behind for others after you (people you love or even society). Without hopes of building a legacy, one loses the hope to live. This is why terminally-ill patients fight to their last breath hoping to see the well-being of their loved ones for as long as they can. It would be the end of human civilization without legacy. Those who think they are better off without kids will feel meaningless towards the end of their life. They can find all sort of excuses or interpretation of life but it eventually converges to the single definition of life at the end: LEGACY.

[@slowcoolgirlz]

definitely but also remember legacy can be many things as there are so many powerful people who have left or has a huge amount of impact on so many people life that also don't have kids. you can have legacy with and without kids.

[@Arsi67]

Legacy is so overrated, you will be dead so why does it matter if people remember you or not?

[@slowcoolgirlz]

@@Arsi67 it's not about being remembered but about putting a positive impact into the world. Like what other reason is there to be here then to put good things on this planet for the benefit of one person or seriously the whole population.

[@LostinMango]

@@slowcoolgirlz Agree Nikola tesla and newton both were single.

[@hv2623]

idk brother. Legacy seems superficial and egotistic.

[@Quickeasyguitarlessons]

“The only true test of intelligence is if you get what you want out of life” Yeah people often confuse being erudite with being actually smart. Always enjoy listening to Naval 👍

[@itscooldawgdonteventrip]

Grigori Perelman - proved a mathematical theorem earned 1 million dollars from it . Refused the money. Went back to do math . - Lives at mom's place.

[@Amit-ey1uj]

@@itscooldawgdonteventrip and u and many others remember him for that. If that was his objective he achieved it probably better than if he had taken the money and put it into marketing

[@dynamics9000]

"NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE, THE WORD ITSELF SAYS I'M POSSIBLE " SUBBED !

[@RahulSharma-oq2ut]

If life was a single player game we wouldn't ever be lonely... Playing life in single player is a good way to protect yourself from getting hurt but in the long term it only hurts you, you can't pirate a ship alone, you need to look for the right crew.

[@thebiologyexpert1728]

You cannot be lonely if you love the person you alone with....

[@jobunny919]

You don’t get what he’s saying. You can still be a single player connecting with other players of the games.

[@rickfool1452]

being alone is not being lonely

[@Big_talks.]

You can be with others and be lonley bro 😂

[@ranjan_v]

Good one Naval really makes sense.

[@bunberrier]

Actually I learned this years ago, from Alice, a survivor of a Knots See death camp where all the rest of her family perished. She was the subject of a documentary, Apt 6 maybe was the name. I forgot. She said basically the same thing in her own way. How she survived in part was the captors organized music presentations from the prisoners, and she was gifted so they put her in them, and they had more provision so the shows would continue.

[@JosephJohnson-mm2bn]

Naval is quite possibly the smartest person I've ever listened to

[@yaesmucho]

oh mtf this is so intense sure even in a relationship and with friends, life still a single player game... digging deeper

[@C_oboe]

Haven't watched the video yet but I until I see someone build immense wealth SOLO - ie without customers, clients, buyers, employees, coworkers, etc - not buying any related arguments

[@healer81]

What he is saying has some valid points but a big reason for a lot of the problems is there are TOOOOO many people that believe they are the only single player and they happen to have a lot of power and make life more difficult for others.

[@AmyFerguson]

They are still part of the web, even if they are closing their eyes to it.

[@barbarosozturk]

Very interesting take on ending one’s life x gamification of life. Wow.

[@Bizarro69]

I often think of serial killers and dictators and unimaginably rich people as living in this mindset.

[@ALMArt-ko9yu]

Wow that hit hard.

[@TrapPhoneLoveMelodiesss]

In one sentence he says, “everything you do will be forgotten,” the next sentence he says, “you create your own meaning.” That’s HIS meaning. Everything “he” does will be forgotten. I watched an interview with Bob Marley, and he said his goal was eternal life. And his music will never be forgotten… Take from that what you will.

[@kishanmotiramani4991]

I think this audio piece was taken from a clubhouse session/podcast, so the context is a person is asking naval (in the sense someone would go to the elderly or a wise person they knew for their advice) "what is or what could be a meaning of life which would be the most fulfilling" so the answer naval gave was "there is no meaning of life" and by that he means is there no absolute meaning of life for an individual to follow as a prescription for a fulfilling life, one can choose his own personal meaning which is what is done in your comment :). This is my interpretation.

[@ParveenBhardwaj679]

Everyone's music WILL be forgotten. It'll just take longer. We have forgotten great art from long ago, we aren't just aware of it. It's called the survivor's bias.

[@chrisallwhite]

Who is Bob Marley?

[@worldofsarthak1628]

Everything may be forgotten but you try to live as if your work lives on for eternity. This will make your work grander but at the same time kinder. Thinking we are flash in the pan makes us attention seeking and polluting.

[@Kapiwolf123]

@@ParveenBhardwaj679 ? we uncover art from the beginnings of mankind. it's not forgotten.

[@theamberturner]

yes and yes! this was POWERFUL!!!

[@jeanpaul4100]

The meaning of life....is simply to experience it.

[@blossom0916]

This is a great content! Thanks!

[@jankuzminski7183]

Love love love his insights, but can we get him a better mic please? Podcasts have spoiled me I guess… but it could definitely be easier to listen to.

[@djole_djole]

Why am I not surprised that a millionaire will make a case against society. Hyper-individualism has made us lonelier (isolation from friends and large families), poorer (collapse of collaborative action), and more anxious. A millionaire can buy all the services, I have to negotiate with friends, families and partners. His money gives him power to be alone, I cannot afford to be alone.

[@z-a1358]

Same

[@Uncool-vn5vz]

Yup. And really, WHY be alone! Can’t we share successes and failures?! Isn’t that what makes humans different from robots! The “thought leaders” advising on borrowed misconstrued wisdom to the netizens!

[@lotsofemily]

@@Uncool-vn5vz so when someones business is in failing and they need help, do you sign up to work for free until they have success that can be shared?

[@lotsofemily]

So if you can comment on youtube, you can google. If you can google you can literally learn within a couple hours how to play middle man on a deal with no cash to generate cash. Learn in 2 hours but master in many. That is the disconnect. You have built this illusionary wall in your head with all these silly reasons why you cannot achieve.

[@Uncool-vn5vz]

@@lotsofemily can you re-phrase your entire thought here? This is honestly quite unintelligible.

[@AmyFerguson]

So much of what you get out of the world is what you put in it. It’s a relationship. You have a relationship with everything you come in contact with.

[@muradtalukdar4401]

This is what happens to your mind when you weren't hugged by your parents.

[@lifeisabadjoke5750]

Emotions vs logic

[@sungkono1]

Life is awesome. I f*cked up a lot but I also succeeded in many things. I tried and experienced many different things in this life. Made friends and enemies. Made love and made war. Built wealth, lost wealth and made even more wealth. Was healthy, got sick and almost died and now healthy again praise God. Through it all I always gave my best. I played to win whilst others played not to lose. If life is a game, I think I have played this game pretty well so far.

[@nobody983]

It is true that life is a single player game in many ways but it is also true that all the single-players are sharing the same world and the resources. It is therefore, paradoxical to say that life is a single-player game while knowing that you are directly or indirectly a character in the game of somebody else. Unless you are super rich you are always interfering other people's lives or getting bothered by other people.

[@jeeves17]

Think of it more like Fallout. A single player game where no other’s actions are controllable, but only your reaction, and yes you can create change and be bothered by the world, but neither of these require others per se, just how you interact with those other people

[@nobody983]

@@jeeves17 This reminds me of Stoicism; stoics believed that we don't have control over outcomes, only thing we can control is our actions. However, when you say that changing the world doesn't matter rather only the interactions, then I think you are missing the point of interaction altogether. The only reason you interact is to change the world. If world as it is was ensuring your survival, why would you ever bother interacting with others?! This is true when you become rich, you stop needing people directly so, you can live a life on an island and live a truly single-player game.

[@timproc9355]

@@jeeves17 the infrastructure of your whole life is made by other people. Pretending ignorance is moronic.

[@tewwonwonii8462]

Excellent!

[@phoenixrising164]

This is one guy I listen to..

[@kiattim2100]

"people who committed suicide, they left the game early" lmao

[@PatrickShares]

Love this. Really cool channel

[@PickingNuggets]

Thank you !

[@duckknight7088]

The only true test of intelligence is if you get what you want out of life. God damn. That is not something I hear often.

[@pikiwiki]

Oh yea

[@debdutmukhopadhyay2682]

i see life as more of a co-op

[@Ton369]

Life is definitely a single player game, as long as you have Amazon prime and DoorDash and you’re insanely introverted like me. Woot

[@ariel-mindfuladventures4709]

I literally just shouted out loud and clapped at 6:00, on intelligence! Yes!!!!

[@infamouspy]

You are probably not alone, you live in memories of other people. So if you disappear, you steal have to erase memories of other people.

[@GalenZacharyRobbins]

This is all well and good but being alone at the end of the day kind of sucks long term.

[@viadharmawheel]

All true from the individual's perspective. But if we are part of the bigger organism can we escape this fact. We can create our own illusion that we are separate but that's all it is. People advocating for the individual will never like this concept as it essentially erases individuality.

[@first-du3xq]

julio tu canal es unos de mis favoritos agradezco mucho tu esfuerso

[@PickingNuggets]

Muchas gracias :)

[@vphilipnyc]

Yeah, the issue is sometimes the game is only filled with one adversity after another, or even for a stretch in your own life. You can be positive about it, but that's when you feel like throwing the controller across the room because the game is just insane.

[@290revolver290]

Naval is one of those minds that understands the game of Life

[@RPGyourLIFE]

Bro I swear he is one of the smartest people on the planet without a doubt. Absolute genius

[@guntherhofer1424]

life is neither single player nor multi player for the most part it is both

[@neetaamonkar2438]

Wordly situations can have methods, our body, mind, intellect is part of this world, because it's created and sustained by food, thoughts, ideas we consume. But , the real me, am I just a by-product?. What am I in deep sleep? A homogeneous mass of nothingness or wholeness? Shunyavad or purnavad? We get satisfactory answers from people who have reached beyond and can see much more clearly outside and above their prism of individuality. That's why the masters in Hinduism are called Rishis---- the ones who see it all, as clear as an amla(gooseberry) on their palm. Most recent seers Bhagwan Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta Maharaj and many more. Reading them gives great peace, they are rich also but in a very divine sense.

[@Simon-xi8tb]

Is this what brolosophysing is?

[@robertcalamusso4218]

Very interesting Be independent but care for yiur fellow Human Be kind. ☮️🇺🇸

[@exaliaos]

The truth is that life is a multi-player game built of strong, independent individuals that follow their own will who accept that others are also strong, independent individuals following their own will. In some way, the only thing that matters is you, but in another, you on your own live an existence with no meaning. Some of the most powerful sources of meaning include doing things for others. Without others, you'll lose the point pretty quickly rationally, on top of biologically feeling depressed because all your instincts are wired to live in a community.

[@AnomalyBelleza]

This is great.

[@SunSunSunn]

This is exactly why you should strive to ruin as many lives as you can. Pull everyone down so you can win. Life only has meaning when you wreak havoc and destruction.

[@turtleswithbombs]

You very clearly don’t like playing support/healing roles! You’re free to interpret he video in a dark frame of mind, but it’s probably better for you and everyone else if you didn’t.

[@ollie7620]

Are you suffering from trauma/depression by chance? Plenty of ways to win by helping others achieve what they want. I know because I grinded for the last 10 years to build a software business doing exactly that. You don’t know the true feeling of winning if your success isn’t aligned with others benefit, with them appreciative of what you have created/enabled.

[@shubhamdixit4983]

Only till 6:40

[@harshitagarwal2288]

Where did you get this from.

[@PickingNuggets]

Naval's Podcast !

[@na-mj2xj]

keep them coming boss

[@kylenmaple4668]

No one can achieve anything on their own

[@ray-17]

Wow. I just discovered your channel and it rocks!! Keep up that good work 💪

[@PickingNuggets]

thank you !!

[@xy-fm]

This is what I realized when I was 7 y.o.

[@secdeal]

the font makes it hard to take it seriously

[@ArchonExMachina]

It's a multiplayer game. There are lots of us spawning at the same time, and then likely being forgotten in 3 generations, with nobody caring. Together we can create the best things in the most efficient manner. Also, doing things for others can give meaning in itself. That's likely the biological imperative also, as a social species.

[@angelitoramire]

First time that i desafees with Nadal

[@sayvorie]

Naval Ravikant!

[@Pigments_of_Imagination]

It’s a single player game, the player is simply generating and actively creating the settings and embodying every life form in the games population, playing each one as a separate individual, simultaneously. We’re not truly separate, we only perceive ourselves to be because It suits this self exploration to achieve as many and as nuanced a perspective, to interact with itself and build and create, by this elaborate improve game which, if it could remember what it was, would lose the meaning and richness and joy of the game. We feel lonely bc we are a tiny fractal of that which is everything. Which is to say the only thing…. Lonely thing?

[@ianstover]

Naval Gazing

[@lisanidog8178]

Life isn’t a game. You’re born, you do stuff during your lifetime and you pass away. I think people should quit the gaming and join life.

[@english3956]

Life is a Single-player Game

[@Velakowitz]

I disagree. I believe there is a meaning to life. Friends and other souls are the spices of life.

[@metry1]

This perspective does not take into account the Soul, the beginning of self individuation is realizing you have a Soul. The fulfillment of the Soul's objective would be the purpose of our lives, a relative purpose; nothing objective.

[@sumitravel]

👌🏻

[@oliviatreip2613]

Privilege is not about victimhood. Let’s say that we live in a world with Pauls and Sams. Every day everyone runs a 100m race but Pauls get to start 3m in front of Sams. That’s not to say that Sams can never win the race, and sure it’s not uncommon for talented and hardworking Sams to win. However it’s less frequent than Pauls winning. There isn’t ‘no point in trying’ for Sams because they’re victims and should just give up, but that doesn’t mean that a Sam suggesting that maybe everyone start at the same starting line is playing the victim card.

[@PickingNuggets]

I agree we should ensure equality of opportunities in a system. I love John Rawls take on this with his "veil of ignorance". And then on the individual level, just play with the cards you were dealt and make the best of it.

[@oliviatreip2613]

@@PickingNuggets I think most people know they’re fighting for others that come after them more than themselves. Things don’t change fast enough generally for activists to see much benefit for themselves. What if fighting for society to be more just is where they find meaning? Also I think that since equality is a good end goal and cannot be achieved with out considerable effort, advocating for people to stop doing it as they should just make the best of what they have is not a good thing. Also the two are not mutually exclusive. You can make the best of the hand you were dealt AND advocate for change.

[@oliviatreip2613]

@@PickingNuggets also yes I shall have to look into the veil of ignorance, it looks interesting.

[@PickingNuggets]

​@@oliviatreip2613 Good point! Life is a multiplayer and single player game, as Naval says.

[@PickingNuggets]

@@oliviatreip2613 Personally I think is the best way to adjust a capitalist system to make *everyone* in the system better off

[@chaosdweller]

Idk ? If Its considered cool that I've been going around talking about how I've been pretending to be the Doom Slayer in my mind sometimes in order to escape the odds or feelings of being outnumbered and or under contstant attack I think (ITS A MIND HACK TO DEAL OTHERS MINDSET TOWARDS AND ME AND MY BIOLOGY BASICALLY haha) ,...or if ? I look like I'm trying too hard to 1 up people saying that's exactly what I've been doing, and telling everyone about haha, but regardless I feel less crazy and stupid now after this video haha, ...thx. It works for me haha especially before going and during the gym haha. I'm no longer doing into games though, but I definitely could be again......

[@desinasa4102]

this system of billions of gallaxy works as a single unit. thinking that we r alone only brings misery to this world every life is important. just see the impact ur every single action has on this unit called world. that is all required for a better world.

[@5_C_G]

Watch The seven year pilgrimage to enlightenment- by Nowness

[@CrazyGamesPlays]

There is a real meaning to life. It is living our lives dedicated to winning the game of life, that is to conquer death. The only way to do that is to learn about and obey the God from the bible. Admittedly this is not how I have chosen to live, however I will not deny the reality. One day the earth will be restored to paradise as it was originally intended. Our aim in life should be to live in a way that is pleasing to our creator and in turn he will reward some with everlasting life. A few people will go to heaven but the majority will be resurrected and live on earth.

[@metry1]

This perspective does not take into account the Soul, the beginning of self individuation is realizing you have a Soul. The fulfillment of the Soul's objective would be the purpose of our lives, a relative purpose; nothing objective. Meaning if you have a Soul then you have your own destiny to follow!

[@art6374]

This is solipsism at its best.

[@metry1]

Very true. I do not like this perspective, this is mine: This perspective does not take into account the Soul, the beginning of self individuation is realizing you have a Soul. The fulfillment of the Soul's objective would be the purpose of our lives, a relative purpose; nothing objective. Meaning if you have a Soul then you have your own destiny to follow!

[@yoyoyo1penaldo]

Yep

[@fallen1805]

Find other players/hero’s and it becomes multiplayer , hell there is even outright pvp There are definitely npcs tho .. no doubt

[@SHANONisRegenerate]

Delete your social media and be the Wolf.

[@joshlang6442]

This man is on crazy drugs, no emotion only theory. This isn't a game.

[@ebrelus7687]

Innovation is single player game. Or rather a group race between single players. But single player is born in particular group and obliged loyalty to it. Society is a pyramid. Top came to be thanks to bottom and bottom creates new future top. best climb ladder but owe everything to the ladder. Both radical collectivism/equality & individualism/egoism/inequality is a cancer. Standards are created between. neither bottom nor top can create standards fitting all. it's created in the diffusion zone in golden center, refined dynamic way. It creates common platform for many subpyramids. United bottom creates revolution often highjacked by previous elite(or rather internal opposition in it), united tops build conserved elitism and fools bottom they have choice in pseudo two party system.

[@optimize.]

Good, but somewhat flawed (and old) philosophy. We’re social animals kids. A too egocentric approach is exactly what is causing much of the deterioration of society and social cohesion. Think about your ability to contribute and your impact in your environment.

[@stratovation1474]

I think these 2 viewpoints are consistent. Just a hunch. Partly because we tend to blame outside influences including others when we screw up. It is hard to see this close up. That's why friends are so important. You choose to love others and not just yourself. Ha...

[@abhipatil4844]

truth

[@Punkels1]

Who is the host. Telling Naval re using Clubhouse is “the biggest, biggest loser move by the way”. Not agreeing or disagreeing but such a Narc statement

[@lolman6041]

chanakya saya akele aye he akele hi jayenge

[@jessewallace12able]

I think the idea that life is a single player game is true, but when he expands on the idea it sounds just like Sartre’s atheism. Anyways if what he is saying is true, then his own idea is meaningless. I believe in God. The notion that life is a single player game, is good only in a game. Life is a game in some sense, but is also more complex than a game, bigger than a game.

[@reprogrammingmind]

Summary reduces value. Nice try though.

[@metry1]

Nice observation.

[@vedlokhande8128]

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[@khairulimran1269]

From a religious perspective life is not a complete freedom, and we are indeed a slave to God

[@SingaporeSkaterSam]

Absurdism in a nutshell.

[@metaphor5774]

Incel Lit here

[@gentlylurk9465]

Shortform vs Blinkist... Go This was an interesting video; glad it wasn't libertarian BS

[@skoolmedia]

Why does naval think there is no meaning to life? Obviously Islam has clearly outlined a user manual for humans

[@lifeisabadjoke5750]

Robot 🤖

[@ashraw3009]

@skoolmedia-this content not for you. Do us favour, keep your suggestions to yourself Thanks

[@WJKF]

Try to achieve success without functioning society "genius".

[@Pain384]

Interesting analogy and take, however it is ultimately flawed. In a game you have factors that you are in control of; i.e you can control where you go and how far you can travel. In life whereas you are constrained by your socioeconomic background and society will mostly dictate what you are and what you are not capaable of. In a sense this single player life view is rather nihilistic because it presents yourself as an 'individual' rather than a 'collective'. And it is in part of this 'individualism' wherein we become disconnected from one another and because the society we live in encourages this shit, it slowly errodes the power of the people as a collective.

[@metry1]

If you are considering society the game, that is not as true as this: Life is the game. Society is a roleplaying minigame. Also, I completely agree with the importance of human connection and no culture is required for connecting with others. Meditating helped me realize the past and future are nothing. The present is all there is. The video's perspective does not take into account the Soul, the beginning of self individuation is realizing you have a Soul. The fulfillment of the Soul's objective would be the purpose of our lives, a relative purpose; nothing objective. Meaning if you have a Soul then you have your own destiny to follow!

[@Katze400]

Law of Assumption, Jesus Christ

[@metry1]

LOL

[@vedlokhande8128]

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