The Untold Story of the Cult at Sarah Lawrence College - Pt 1 with Daniel Levin | Season 2; Ep 20

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Larry Ray was recently sentenced to 60 years for heinous crimes he committed while running a sadistic cult that began in his daughter’s dorm at the prestigious Sarah Lawrence College. Now, Daniel Levin, who survived years of torture, manipulation, sexual abuse and testified against Ray is revealing new details about what he endured.
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Daniel Barban Levin holds an MFA in poetry from UC-Irvine. Nylon called his memoir SLONIM WOODS 9 (Crown) about surviving the abusive cult which began at Sarah Lawrence “a disturbing, extremely vulnerable and extraordinary account of what happened to Levin and the emotional and psychological fallout.” He executive produced the documentary STOLEN YOUTH (Hulu) which the New Yorker described as “…a remarkable work, advancing the prestige true-crime genre’s slow but steady reorientation toward centering victims.” He lives and writes in Los Angeles and teaches continuing education students how to translate difficult memories into powerful stories through Stanford University.
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@monicarose2135
@monicarose2135 Жыл бұрын
Considering the cost of tuition at $82,000, I think the school holds some level of responsibility for not protecting them from this predator…
@laumarlopez8417
@laumarlopez8417 4 ай бұрын
Yes, the fact that the university makes that much and they didn’t have a designated staff to check a on them.
@deenad3562
@deenad3562 2 ай бұрын
Even if tuition is free, an established institution with the title of College or University is obligated to certain insurances and due diligence, at a minimum.
@brittneysperspective8433
@brittneysperspective8433 Жыл бұрын
When I watched this on HULU, i couldn’t stop thinking about it for days. My heart was so broken for those kids. Can you Imagine going to college, and coming in contact with someone like Larry Ray? And I’m sorry, his daughter needs to be sitting in jail right next to him. Con Artist and Abusers should have to register like sex offenders.
@realhealing7802
@realhealing7802 Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@Portia620
@Portia620 Жыл бұрын
Agreed!! My ex con artist husband should need to register! He’s in Texas now married to a woman after moving there for a Job and conning her. The money, mistresses, lies, abuse, ect! List goes on
@johnhanaly2943
@johnhanaly2943 Жыл бұрын
We had a guy at our dormitory who tried something a little like this using a front of Dungeon's and Dragons but secretly administering date rape drugs to the participants. He was basically an element making people quit school. Fortunately, I was left with an ability to lace into him and his pals verbally and they avoid me like a plague.
@gigiarmany4332
@gigiarmany4332 8 ай бұрын
YES!! THATS A GREAT IDEA! Love it..
@averymartin321
@averymartin321 5 ай бұрын
I agree
@rblo
@rblo Жыл бұрын
This man is brilliant. He is incredible. I'm overwhelmed by his clarity, courage and strength
@carpediem4512
@carpediem4512 5 ай бұрын
Lawrence Ray?
@ShyAnn291
@ShyAnn291 3 ай бұрын
@@carpediem4512 no, I’m sure they meant Daniel
@MrsW0f0rd
@MrsW0f0rd 3 ай бұрын
"At the end of the day, I believe me." Daniel said so many fantastic and insightful things during this interview, but this was so profound. Thank you for speaking to Daniel. Daniel, thank you for sharing your story.
@karinturkington2455
@karinturkington2455 Жыл бұрын
I'm amazed at this young man's ability to express things that are so difficult to comprehend let alone express in words. He has given me some words to express events that I've experienced with a manipulative ex-partner.
@Diametricallyopposed00
@Diametricallyopposed00 3 ай бұрын
He’s very articulate and self aware. I’m impressed also.
@epow
@epow Жыл бұрын
I graduated from Sarah Lawrence College in 1998. I am so mortified by this whole story and about what these poor kids went through. I keep wondering how the administration could have let something like this happen?
@victoriavitoroulis3273
@victoriavitoroulis3273 Жыл бұрын
My son graduated too from SLC he loved it 🤩
@sueulintzmosovich1232
@sueulintzmosovich1232 Жыл бұрын
I did as well, in 1990, and I remember Slonim 9 well. I lived in Slonim 1 and had several friends over in 9. It's surreal to picture such horror living in a place one is familiar with.
@mrs.m840
@mrs.m840 Жыл бұрын
The administration wasn't involved and it certainly was not the administration's fault. The student invited her dad to live with them and the students agreed to it.
@epow
@epow Жыл бұрын
@@mrs.m840 I lived in Sloanam Woods, where the students in this situation lived. Having someone living with you in that housing who is not a student would be easy. However, it was not allowed. The administration is considered in loco parentis, in other words, the guardians of the student's well-being. Protecting them from things like rape, theft, etc... These students paid SLC a great deal of money and damned well needed and deserved the administration's protection.
@amarokcuster3839
@amarokcuster3839 Жыл бұрын
​@@sueulintzmosovich1232😮😮😮😮😊😮😊 16:24
@boundariesforwomen1310
@boundariesforwomen1310 Жыл бұрын
The way these people operate is beyond comprehension and completely demonic. The level of coercion and deception is one of the hardest parts to cope with (for years afterwards) and process. People who have never dealt with an individual like this think they'd have done things differently, or like you said, that there's something wrong with the victim. But they don't understand the depth of what this kind of coercion can look like. Thank you so much, Dr. Ramani, for the work you do and the clarity you have about this stuff. Thank you Larry for having the courage to talk about this nightmare.
@kellyyork3898
@kellyyork3898 5 ай бұрын
True. There’s overt coercion and then there is this covert, sneaky, cancer type of conversion. I like to think of people like Larry as deadly Cobras mesmerizing you with their mojo. You’re basically in a trance like state and have almost, if not totally, lost your sense of self, and then the snake strikes. And you’ll never fully recover from the venom for the rest of your life, if you survive at all.
@kateb7155
@kateb7155 Жыл бұрын
This is just such a riveting interview!! I am in awe of the use of SUCH accurate and precise terminology and language to describe the complicated intricate layers of this horrific manipulation and abuse. I so appreciate Daniel's honesty and courage and Dr. Ramani's empathy, support, and explanations.
@gigiarmany4332
@gigiarmany4332 8 ай бұрын
Yes..amazing 💥🔥❤️finally perfect words to describe the so far undescribed💯🔥
@77naaz
@77naaz Жыл бұрын
What an amazing person to interview. He is so poetic, articulate and authentic. Much love!
@reginaocasio3749
@reginaocasio3749 Жыл бұрын
Bravo Daniel, thank you for having the courage to speak out about this event in your life… you have helped so many people. Please never forget that you have survived & seem to be thriving… thank you for not giving up 🤓
@EveningTV
@EveningTV Жыл бұрын
I admire his ambition to get the book and documentary done. I have been struggling for a long time to write my own book about how this happens in families and marriages, but it is very difficult to do yet I am determined to get through it because it is a story that needs to be shared. I wasn't to go through this nightmare and learn these lessons only to have it all stay inside of me. I have never heard a story like mine shared, yet I find myself nodding in acknowledgment no matter how different the circumstances to other people's stories are. Based on reactions I have received over time, I know that a lot of people would relate to my story in part or whole.
@cheatednomore6430
@cheatednomore6430 Жыл бұрын
Write your book! Your story does need to be told & shared. I have a real life story that I must write to be in some peace. Not sure I would ever actually experience peace, but that is another aspect to be dealt with. I am on the second attempt writing my book. Good luck with your endeavor. It both worries & saddens me that SO many extremely important personal stories need to be told. Many people can use hearing them because of experiencing things that are being held inside. I believe our stories can help people feel less alone.
@dijaworldworld3895
@dijaworldworld3895 Жыл бұрын
Write it! My daughter and grandchildren are in a situation very similar to this. The psychopath is her husband and it is very painful. As difficult as these stories are to hear like this it helps families like mine bc we feel so lost.
@beelarehman5992
@beelarehman5992 7 ай бұрын
Write it! The only way to disarm these people is knowledge. Educate the new generations.
@Miken363
@Miken363 Ай бұрын
Yes I have an urge to do the same! Once I figured out my mother I made the mistake of letting her know I knew. Fast forward 2 years, I have not one family member. I became the worst person alive. All the years of me helping her financially. Staying at her place to help with her bills. Always looking for her validation. Had a shoulder injury and became dependent on opioids. She covertly fed me her prescription for years, all while telling everyone I was a drug addicted fuck up. After everything and all the abuse I still find myself wanting to help her. This kind of abuse needs to be front and center in our society. Physical abuse is the tip of the ice berg for abuse. It's the one that heals the fastest in most cases. People are dying every day by the cause of these "perfect looking abusers and they're well respected outside of the abuse group".
@dawnhollingsworth3729
@dawnhollingsworth3729 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Ramani ; when speaking about the wine when you didn't taste the flavors of chocolate, oak ect.. I liken it to a few things in life. The Emporers New Clothes a childhood story actually helped me to have my own opinions. It is sad we jump on the bandwagon ( I have been on the bandwagon as well)
@orielwiggins2225
@orielwiggins2225 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for drawing attention to the shaming into isolation, so much of this happens subtly, but solidly, to many of us of us in narcissistic families or relationships of all kinds. And the shifting scapegoating and terror of these kinda of dynamics, and the difficulty of not only getting out, but advocating cannot be understated. Thank you so much!
@caroleminke6116
@caroleminke6116 Жыл бұрын
The secrecy is the worst for children & pretending in public just adds salt to our wounds so silence becomes the enemy
@orielwiggins2225
@orielwiggins2225 Жыл бұрын
@@caroleminke6116 exactly.
@johnhanaly2943
@johnhanaly2943 Жыл бұрын
People who engage in shaming others need to hear that they are "too desperate and needy".
@lovemelab8003
@lovemelab8003 Жыл бұрын
I was raised by a mother just like Larry Ray and I escaped her home at age thirty. This episode is extremely helpful for someone like me. Making sense of the insanity is still something I have to do and I'm so grateful you are breaking this kind of abuse down and helping us make sense of it, feel validated, keep the hope alive.
@meaningfulmakings
@meaningfulmakings 7 ай бұрын
Bless you. I’m so sorry terrible things happened to you.
@Killjoy_Mel
@Killjoy_Mel 4 ай бұрын
I was raised by a Larry-like mother, too. I cut her out of my life at 28. I know how they operate, and I had it in me to cut her off by myself without outside help. I don't trust people who want to make me 'see the truth'. If there is truth and I don't see it, it's my business, my burden to bear. If I see the truth, then I see it on my own. Truth's a tricky thing, and in the end the most truthful thing in the room is my own gut. Not my brain or my faulty memory. My gut. And my gut sometimes misses bad things, but when it keys onto something, it never lies, even if my brain is working overtime to ignore my gut.
@lovemelab8003
@lovemelab8003 4 ай бұрын
@@Killjoy_Mel I know what you mean :’( glad you got out and are trusting your gut. My sister still lives with my mother and she’s in her forties now…. She reminds me of the girl who has defended Larry Ray to the end. I haven’t spoken to my mom or dad or sister in a decade when I completely cut them off at 33. I can’t see that I ever will speak to them again. All the best to you.
@stacysplace3392
@stacysplace3392 3 ай бұрын
You guys are lucky that you caught it early. It took me to have finality with it until now at 48.
@stacysplace3392
@stacysplace3392 3 ай бұрын
Stay strong!
@orielwiggins2225
@orielwiggins2225 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal episode again. I think the work of previous guests applies here too for those of past with similar backgrounds, ie:coercive control and betrayal blindness, protective disassociation (including suppressed memories) and the experts in cults. Really appreciate the emphasis on indoctrination and erosion of perception.
@Perspectivist100
@Perspectivist100 3 ай бұрын
What an excellent interview I'm blown away by how Daniel himself understands all the social and toxic dynamics to detail. That he 'sees the big picture' of all the different actions and interventions this sick guy performed. Already at the beginning when he talks about him "using everyone to gain intelligence on everyone else". It's almost as if he's a psychologist himself analysing all the events. And I'm saying this AS as social psychologist myself, specialised in persuasion and social influence. While watching the section discussing watching these kinds of documentaries as reality TV, and your small intermezzo signaling you also think this is a key part of the insights gained from this interview, I couldn't help thinking what an excellent concept the 'PAUSE' metaphore would be for an awareness and preventive campaing against any kind of domestic abuse, be it physical or psychological. I do some pro bono work for the government in campaign consulting and I might actually bring this to the table. "WE can hit pause; THEY couldn't". Also, it makes me think even more about using the HEXACO personality trait model instead of OCEAN just te be able to get a small bearing on any potential red flags that way, too (low authenticity - low humility - low integrity - high power on the H scale). Thanx again for this great contribution, both Daniel and dr. Ramani. I will also start following your socials from now.
@JudahTribe2023
@JudahTribe2023 Жыл бұрын
I'm certainly very sorry this young man endured such horror. I am glad he is on his healing journey. However, for as much as he did share I feel there's so much more that he left out. I would love to hear the other victims' experiences also to really put the pieces together. Thanks again Dr. Ramani!
@herosmerlose5784
@herosmerlose5784 10 ай бұрын
There is a lot of information available from the other victims. Probably the easiest source is the Hulu documentary.
@josephhuth3714
@josephhuth3714 Жыл бұрын
A brilliant podcast with two highly intelligent, articulate, sensitive, and evolved individuals discussing the horrors of narcisstic abuse from personal experience. Thank you Dr. Ramani and Daniel Levin for presenting this. Being a survivor of abuse from narcissistic parents, I am extremely grateful to you.
@cynthiabiel7714
@cynthiabiel7714 Жыл бұрын
I think that demon was more of a sociopath...like a Narcissist on steroids....
@marinanasi3888
@marinanasi3888 Ай бұрын
This man is a delight. I have so much respect for him and I wish him nothing but the best
@cnoor30
@cnoor30 Жыл бұрын
I think he is a genius. Thank you Dr Ramani for bringing him on the show
@tjtampa214
@tjtampa214 Жыл бұрын
Very important conversation. Thank you to all concerned for being so brave to talk. This guy was so smart to think his way out under such power of this entity he encountered. 💪 I can relate to his experience about suspecting the FBI Agent to be in cahoots with the perpetrator. I myself now suspect most ppl around me that approach me for conversation to be previously involved with the entity I encountered. 😶
@sognidiorsi1175
@sognidiorsi1175 Ай бұрын
Thank you, Daniel, for speaking so eloquently & courageously about this horror.
@getupandgo77
@getupandgo77 Жыл бұрын
This guy has an amazing and interesting perspective
@jemma6596
@jemma6596 3 ай бұрын
This is yet another reason why sending a kid out on their own at 18, far away from home, with a bunch of money, no follow-up or no accountable parent figure (college administration, in this case) is a real bad idea today. Add this to the list of what could happen to kids in college.
@kashesan
@kashesan Жыл бұрын
Those poor students. What a nightmare.
@sandyschneider6792
@sandyschneider6792 Жыл бұрын
I am terribly sorry about the things that happened to you & others. While I have been abused it was not to your extent. Your recovery and truth telling is wonderful & brave. Your point about watching True Crime is very important. I watch some shows for learning to be aware & compassionate…but can hit pause…& pray for people & healing. God Bless you & your cont. healing!
@DaysieRose
@DaysieRose 4 ай бұрын
Daniel is so insightful and courageous in this interview. I felt so protective of him. I can not imagine enduring such manipulation and humiliation yet still being able to give a thorough and vulnerable interview.
@jeanette5524
@jeanette5524 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story Daniel. You've put into words so much in a way that I haven't been able to articulate. Blessing on you.
@vanessajuanitapopkisssamue8036
@vanessajuanitapopkisssamue8036 Жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry for what happened to you 😢, however listening to you gives so much hope and courage for survivors , thank you for sharing your story and your documentary 🙏🏽Strength and healing to you and all who have been harmed by Larry.
@orielwiggins2225
@orielwiggins2225 Жыл бұрын
Thank you both so much for this. So helpful! I relate to so much of this and appreciate your emphasis on the keeping this complexity of it all as far too often simplifying it minimizes is dismisses the difficulty of the experience and especially the healing process.
@amac2573
@amac2573 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Daniel. Some of what happened to you reminded me of a former manipulative Boss I had who played the pesudo Therapist.
@myjourney73
@myjourney73 Ай бұрын
Such an amazing kind sweet and wonderful person
@khaleesiy.7886
@khaleesiy.7886 11 ай бұрын
I’d love to hear from his ex girlfriend who “was against Larry.” She sounds pretty strong in her convictions.
@ShyAnn291
@ShyAnn291 3 ай бұрын
She’s in the documentary.
@lisbethsalander1723
@lisbethsalander1723 Жыл бұрын
at around 33.27 Daniel's fear and struggle with Larry's long reach , while far away in England, makes total sense. It makes painfully real to many of us who could be subjected to family -like pathology but wasn't able to work it out .. because it looks and feels like being ungrateful and harsh. In Larry's case whatever he did for Daniel or any of his friends was an investment to bind him/her to himself to break him down later .
@LEM19284
@LEM19284 Жыл бұрын
This is too difficult to listen to having had a daughter go away to college in 2008. 😢
@vickiegroome3220
@vickiegroome3220 10 ай бұрын
Hat tip young man. You are amazing.Keep on believing in yourself.
@robertafierro5592
@robertafierro5592 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Ramani is a brilliant Teacher.
@annimalasenko7326
@annimalasenko7326 11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the courage to share these videos and your interviews. Also a big 'thank you' to Dr. Ramani for bringing awareness to this case and the fact that coercion claims need to be looked into more deeply in a court of law, before it comes to such cases
@karenf9564
@karenf9564 Жыл бұрын
I read his book. It was so good and went way more into detail so you could really see the progression in how all this insanity went down. Daniel is a pretty awesome person.
@MoeinSactown
@MoeinSactown Жыл бұрын
What was the name of the book, I would like to read it.
@cascade00
@cascade00 Жыл бұрын
I am a female survivor of sex crime, I am a survivor of same sex statutory rape. Same sex sadistic rape. Are you a sadist? You are very harsh towards the female gender who never received any aftercare and beyond harsh, you are not in tune with your empathy.
@cascade00
@cascade00 Жыл бұрын
You are the type of person that nobody who experienced a same sex sadistic rape wants to hear from, ever. Asking me under the comment where I said what happened to me, "what the hell is wrong with you?" is designed to humiliate and invalidate. What do you get from Ramani to come into the KZbin comments and attempt to play to the darkness of those on the bottom rung? If I was a dark person I would tell you to come here right now with your earrings out.
@cascade00
@cascade00 Жыл бұрын
The young lady in the same story, Felicia, who was targeted, was protected in the comments section where her story was told. In Ramani's comments section it's as if everybody is in a haze of cult like worship for Ramani.
@karenf9564
@karenf9564 Жыл бұрын
Slonim Woods 9
@BodyLanguageAnalysisInterrogat
@BodyLanguageAnalysisInterrogat Жыл бұрын
Min 47:50 I am so glad he has validation.. many people think recording, keep a record, journal is "keeping account of injury, being a victim, not wanting to heal, retraumize yourself" the abuser, others and even your mind will make you doubt. Even many therapists don't understand this. I am so sorry you went through this. TY for this interview 🙏 I probably won't be able to watch it but have my own gaslighting recordings. May you be validated. This guy's abuser relived his power, took trophies, and had blackmail, leverage, and apparently paranoia. 51:59
@literallyok1217
@literallyok1217 6 ай бұрын
I was watching the documentary and kept thinking about Dr. Ramani. I'm so happy to discover you did these interviews!!!!
@cascade00
@cascade00 Жыл бұрын
When Jake Pizur told his story on Soft White Underbelly, he was accused by hundreds if not thousands of lying. He passed away. Look man, i know going through what you went through causes an immense disturbance in your life. Please survive and thrive. Get to the place where you feel stable and are healing from the CPTSD if you can.
@tonyhoffman3309
@tonyhoffman3309 4 ай бұрын
His story was so sad. Especially how he was not believed. He did seem to have been coming into a better place in that interview. Very sad there was not more support for him at that time.
@lisbethsalander1723
@lisbethsalander1723 Жыл бұрын
Was Talia in the room - when he was torturing Daniel and in other times Felicia and her siblings and Claudia? If so, then she is an equal monster psychopath. Most of us would shield our friends from harm if we are present.
@aaaaallllld7576
@aaaaallllld7576 10 ай бұрын
Talia seems to have received a large amount of protection throughout all this, which is interesting.
@myjourney73
@myjourney73 Ай бұрын
She was subject to her father's abuse and manipulation since chikdhood.shebis the first victim
@rturney6376
@rturney6376 Жыл бұрын
Love 💗 the questions Dr R ask
@bernadettepotenti301
@bernadettepotenti301 Жыл бұрын
i'm so sorry this happened to you god bless you
@WhosaidIrene
@WhosaidIrene 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this. I couldn’t finish the SL college documentary- too horrifying but I want to hear their story👍🏼
@NavigatingNarcissismPod
@NavigatingNarcissismPod 10 ай бұрын
You are always welcome
@BrandiRayburn
@BrandiRayburn Жыл бұрын
ending the self blame. end the self blame.
@BodyLanguageAnalysisInterrogat
@BodyLanguageAnalysisInterrogat Жыл бұрын
1:01:22 Those were questions I had.. the time lost and maybe no memory recorded is a testimony to disassociation, etc.
@tjtampa214
@tjtampa214 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I also think dissociation is the reason for the memory loss.
@tessellatiaartilery8197
@tessellatiaartilery8197 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informative and socially helpful video. Daniel is brave and inspires courage for other survivors. Wishing him all the very best for the future. Thank you Dr Ramani for this kind and thoughtful interview.
@NavigatingNarcissismPod
@NavigatingNarcissismPod Жыл бұрын
You are always welcome
@luvbearbut
@luvbearbut Жыл бұрын
Daniel is one of the most attractive men I've seen in a while, physically, intellectually and emotionally!
@jadepham6451
@jadepham6451 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing this
@paulahansen4102
@paulahansen4102 Жыл бұрын
Dr Ramani ❤️
@kashesan
@kashesan Жыл бұрын
"Pickpocketing your soul" (wow)
@DDuMas
@DDuMas Жыл бұрын
Larry Ray is more of a monster than most people we see. When ever we see a story of someone bullying someone, we always say, "oh if this happened to me, I'd do this and that". But Larry Ray's level of manipulation, psychological torture and sleep deprivation over such a long time, even being your best friend at the beginning... None of us can really say with certainty, we also wouldn't have been destroyed by him. I mean, being able to convince people they did stuff that never happened. The one thing the documentary showed was that it was possible to completely break some ones mind. Oh, we've heard about it, but to actually see it happen. It was shocking. And this one man, broke everyone he was living with at the same time. A complete monster. When he was sentenced to 60 years, I had two thoughts: 1. This is TRULY more than most other cases, to benefit society. He's too dangerous to be allowed to walk free. The way he weaponises his intelligence... 2. The other inmates will now be his victims. Especially the new young and scared inmates.
@cascade00
@cascade00 Жыл бұрын
Evening TV had an NDE story that brings her back to love I also felt profound love recently coming theough my own body But the nightmare of narcissist was the trauma that was preventing the love from coming thru fully
@cascade00
@cascade00 Жыл бұрын
Just yesterday I sat down to a 90 year old man in the library. He joked about taking a younger wife, after our interaction which was him asking me if the librarians are new and him telling me about what he was reading about after I asked. He was a lil nice gentleman who was getting a little attention. That is my life. Putting the attention onto others. I could have asked him to help me with a meal. I can't bring myself to.
@tonyhoffman3309
@tonyhoffman3309 4 ай бұрын
"Therapy is it's own journey".
@damieo8139
@damieo8139 Жыл бұрын
Very very intelligent man.
@deenad3562
@deenad3562 2 ай бұрын
*54:15** I dont think he got his daughter out "so she wouldnt bear witness", he removed her because ultimately her presence was diminishing his pleasure. He got what he needed from her (her friends) and had no use for her.* 😪
@nicdonato
@nicdonato 4 ай бұрын
i just watched the series (sort of diving deeper and elaborating here) and what really struck me was how the cult was mostly abt pure and raw control over others? i guess that's where the narcissist v. actual psycho line is drawn. at the same time that's a direct result of how the series portrayed the story, not focusing on the perpetrator's narrative but on his actions and the pain he caused.
@airenmoonwolf2520
@airenmoonwolf2520 Жыл бұрын
I am so glad that some of the kids who were hurt so badly were able to unpack the abuse and move forward with their lives. So many people abused by these psychotic monsters never really recover. Daniel is such a strong young man. After watching the documentary and reading about the case I was so worried about all these young people. I wish the survivors all the best and hope this monster dies in jail and cannot hurt anyone else.
@dime7612
@dime7612 Жыл бұрын
Yep! Cults are real people!
@thuwaibaibrahim9705
@thuwaibaibrahim9705 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for speaking about this. I wanted to hear analysis from an expert in this field. I've just watched the series in Hulu, my heart is broken for those students 💔.
@bereal6590
@bereal6590 Жыл бұрын
Really nice guy, I'm in the uk and it's a shame you couldn't have stayed here longer and away from him. Seems a sensitive chap not afraid to be open and honest, definitely makes him a very appealing personality. What an awful experience to have to go through. I hope he has a great life, he is a man. Larry is a worm!
@katja6332
@katja6332 Жыл бұрын
10:47 so true, 12:07 so important to prevent it, keep it complicated because it was, 45:20 victims couldn't 'hit the pause bottom', so true and very well explained afterwards,
@katja6332
@katja6332 Жыл бұрын
1:24:12 again, true how about every group members experience is different, yet there's a shared basic harsh truth that connects them
@magita1991
@magita1991 17 күн бұрын
I just watched the Hulu documentary this situation is wild. I feel for all the victims
@EvanRockwell1
@EvanRockwell1 11 ай бұрын
10:51 Maybe he and I have the same therapist because my therapist said almost the exact same thing to me!!!
@BrandiRayburn
@BrandiRayburn Жыл бұрын
be very wary of these people. trust in god. trust your intuition. trust your instincts.
@majorkade
@majorkade 8 ай бұрын
Which god? That usually is the first step to a cult. Be careful with that first step. 😅
@Red-Iceberg
@Red-Iceberg Жыл бұрын
I read about this!!!
@insiteandawareness3500
@insiteandawareness3500 Жыл бұрын
A lot of what he said took me back to what happened to me when I was being abused by my offender especially the sexual assault because it was coercive control but used in sex acts and I was afraid if I didn't do what he wanted that I would lose him because he threatened to leave me so many times. The irony of it is that I left him and I ended the relationship and after I did that he stalked me for almost 6 months. I ended up leaving a job that I'd been in for almost 28 years minus the covid shut down and I've changed a lot of things in my life like my schedule my routine my phone number and soon I will be moving to a new residence. These people tear up your life and now I'm left with questions of why?
@laraoneal7284
@laraoneal7284 Жыл бұрын
First time hearing of this I think?? Actually may have heard of it years ago.
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 Жыл бұрын
I just found out today that only a 2 year old could get Ovarian Cancer. How a 2 year old would process the trauma of being hospitalized would be far different than how a grown woman would process that kind of experience. There are so many reasons why one person copes with exploitation in a different way to survive than someone else would.
@BrandiRayburn
@BrandiRayburn Жыл бұрын
be wary of people. trust in yourself.
@legalservices8856
@legalservices8856 3 ай бұрын
Parents need to understand that when the kid is living in a house or apartment off campus, the college really has no part of what goes on with the student's living situation. The parent really needs to keep in close contact and be aware of who their kid is living with. My kid (as a junior) got a new roommate and that person from day 1 started to exhibit traits of anti-social behavior (gaslighting, demeaning, lying, not keeping agreements) and got the other new roommate to side with her. I encouraged my daughter to move out asap and she did, and got into a great situation, a healthy one and it made all the difference in the world. I disagree with what Ramani and this young man are saying about it being too scary to believe that it is not the school's fault and not the parent's fault and to believe that it is all the perpetrator's fault; because it's too scary and random if that were the case. On the contrary, the more we know of these stories, we share, we get educated, the more we can see these con artists coming a mile away. Recognizing them quickly and acting decisively is the ANSWER. It's more scary to blame other's and believe that we are powerless. WE ARE NOT. Of course he did not know what he did not know, but he knows now and is sharing his hard earned wisdom. That's what will help end this epidemic of perpetrators corrupting society at large.
@johnhanaly2943
@johnhanaly2943 Жыл бұрын
I hope he handles all the trouble that was caused for him really well
@alvildasophiaanaya-alegria8419
@alvildasophiaanaya-alegria8419 10 ай бұрын
WOW AND WOW! I learned sooo much! Could see the sexual assault by first husband, and coaxing making me feel guilty. Terrorized and all of it. This information validated me. I have a therapist who tells me that the sexual assault was not true because my thoughts come from being sexually assaulted by my father and mother since I had a toddler, like false memories from my end. Maybe you have made a video about false vs true memories so I will search this. Uff the feeling complicit. Thanks to him and you Dr. Ramani. 😢😢😢😢 Facing torture through racism in the city of Lawrence, Massachusetts in 1980s I faced the “sameness”. The rape was the phycological and emotional and sadistic intentionally driven focused by these specific people to drive the Latine people out of the city. Dehumanizing us was sooooo real that even the churches were complicit. We had riots in the city because of it. And the department of justice from Washington had to come in. I have been dabbling into writing for three years my memoir but it shake’s me so much that I stop.
@rundbaum
@rundbaum Жыл бұрын
60 yrs in prison is no small ask for the new york state system . . . deplorable.
@AyaEgbuho
@AyaEgbuho Жыл бұрын
So true.
@mai0033
@mai0033 5 ай бұрын
He's like 50 anyway so he'll be dead by then
@KimmySemak
@KimmySemak 2 ай бұрын
@@mai0033I think he is like 62
@BrandiRayburn
@BrandiRayburn Жыл бұрын
believing oneself.
@michaelawinter4793
@michaelawinter4793 Жыл бұрын
Watching this and getting an add which sounds like a cult-leader recruting. 😰😤 How does the algorithm function? 😉 Weird😂 So glad they survived and got out of it. I hope they find back into their lifes! Love and greetings from Austria!💜💜💜💜💜
@Smartbeautifulawesome
@Smartbeautifulawesome 5 ай бұрын
Why would all of a sudden family and friends block you/isolate you? Doesn’t seem normal to me. Maybe they’re hiding something?
@EditLivy
@EditLivy 11 ай бұрын
So. My question is why did Raven see through Larry's bs from the get go when the others didn't? And btw why did Daniel think breaking up a long term relationship via text would be appropriate behaviour instead? Different levels of education and intelligence I guess?
@ivanasimic2072
@ivanasimic2072 7 ай бұрын
We MUST talk about it, about church abuse by narcissist "pastors"/monsters who are abusing authority playing by God´s card. Thank you for speak out!!
@BrandiRayburn
@BrandiRayburn Жыл бұрын
blackmail. coercion. coercive control do not get sucked in people. delusional grandosity . so conniving. so calculating. be smart. be wary. coercing.
@KimmySemak
@KimmySemak 2 ай бұрын
He should have got more than 60 years. I know he will be dead by then but it's the point that pos never should have been released.
@lhj276
@lhj276 Жыл бұрын
They divide and conquer.
@cascade00
@cascade00 Жыл бұрын
If Lewis Howes, Tim Farris, Joe Polish, could lend voice, and all those who experienced sex crimes, could come together, and teamwork, we can make something happen so that people dont need to starve.
@chaitrakeshav
@chaitrakeshav Жыл бұрын
@BodyLanguageAnalysisInterrogat
@BodyLanguageAnalysisInterrogat Жыл бұрын
1:03:40😮
@BrandiRayburn
@BrandiRayburn Жыл бұрын
don't praise them. don't freeze and don't fawn over them. don't get sucked in.
@KimmySemak
@KimmySemak 2 ай бұрын
who?
@carmendevine7244
@carmendevine7244 Жыл бұрын
I've been watching 15 minutes and I have no idea of what actually happened 🙃
@cascade00
@cascade00 Жыл бұрын
00:33 listen to the 3 sentences at that marker (if you want to know what happened otherwise maybe the PollyAnna content would be more up your alley)
@AyaEgbuho
@AyaEgbuho Жыл бұрын
Same
@jcrocks6698
@jcrocks6698 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. They took into account that many people would know the story from the news.
@oceanyt8
@oceanyt8 3 ай бұрын
Make this clear, anyone who don't care about the consequences and repercussions, they can pull it through. But to a certain limit ans time frame. , Everything will be exposed end of the day.
@Noadavide
@Noadavide 4 ай бұрын
Je crois que la majorité des gens ignorent qu'ils doivent protéger leurs être psychique et que pour y parvenir il faut être présent dans son corps,ne pas laisser son attention être dérobée ou accaparée par n'importe quoi.
@milascave2
@milascave2 4 ай бұрын
They say that most pedos dig their own graves by keeping photos or videos of their victims and their crimes. But it's not just them. Other kinds of sex offenders, like this guy, do to it too.
@karinam4115
@karinam4115 Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰
@Nidhi_Maheshwari
@Nidhi_Maheshwari 8 ай бұрын
🕊️
@Smartbeautifulawesome
@Smartbeautifulawesome 5 ай бұрын
Eww this is disturbing
@AyaEgbuho
@AyaEgbuho Жыл бұрын
I have been listening for 30 minutes. So many words. So little said.
@KimmySemak
@KimmySemak 2 ай бұрын
I felt that also
@BrandiRayburn
@BrandiRayburn Жыл бұрын
robert frost the poet.
@cascade00
@cascade00 Жыл бұрын
1:16:54 please psychology think long and hard about any ideas and any possible solutions to putting the control back to us the people who endured sex crimes. Maybe you experienced too. I dont see whats wrong with offering to help a non profit, do you?
@Morbid.Injustice
@Morbid.Injustice 15 күн бұрын
Talia needs to be in prison we just did a video on larry ray recently and talia was not innocent at all are u kidding ne?
@mauvehawaii
@mauvehawaii 4 ай бұрын
the real question.. who was paying rent.
@cascade00
@cascade00 Жыл бұрын
Theres gotta be an opening, a way through to not need to deal with the nonsense of elders when your wish is sincere to continue to heal from the wounds of CPTSD
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