Why Are US Navy Ships SO RUSTY While Chinese Warships Look Spotless?

[@TheFlutecart]

..uhh, because we use them?

[@grivolas2144]

Da😅

[@peterasp1968]

Absolutely correct.

[@MuffinManUSN]

I thought we were going to talk about our kinder gentler anti bowling paint😅

[@sandiegomathewp.7456]

​@@mellowred22 because 10 Nimitz and 1 Ford was in service on different operations for long range without hanger refueling

[@MuffinManUSN]

I meant to say Anti-Fowling paint. Auto correct is like a barnacle to sharing thoughts

[@Richard-od7yd]

Looking Pretty while at Sea is what we Boatswain's Mates call " busy work" . We paint what we can just to stay busy between drills and watches . Corrosion Control is the bottom of the list as far as priorities go . We do a lot more PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE on the Replenishment Stations , Small boats , lifeboats and Fire suppression equipment.

[@heretoforeunknown]

The JFK is rusty all right but hasn't set sail for decades.

[@albertchu7926]

Too poor to pay for the maintenance as their money is for its proxy war in Ukraine. That’s why they can’t afford infrastructure, public transport such as high speed rail, healthcare and home for it’s citizens. Now we know why there are so many homeless people sleeping under the bridges, roadside, tents and all around the cities.

[@mydad156]

May be due to many US ships are old and nearly retire soon.

[@youngstunna1594]

@@mydad156like?

[@rakerdinh7593]

Why on earth do you need to pour the money into something that will be in a museum? And that rusty hunk of junk still can perform better than anything from, Made in China.

[@williamjones4483]

@@mydad156 USS JFK (CV-67) was "retired" and decommissioned March 23, 2007. On October 6, 2021 she and USS Kitty Hawk were sold for one cent each to International Shipbreaking Limited.

[@matthewnewton8812]

This is not really accurate nor does it acknowledge the actual problem. Our ships coming back to port with minor corrosion and marine growth is absolutely normal and to be expected. The problem is that recently we’ve been seeing them go OUT TO SEA looking like that. That’s definitely NOT supposed to happen, and suggests ships are being deployed more regularly than their repair/maintenance schedules can keep up with. Extra months on station somewhere in the middle of the ocean mean ships that are in disrepair, crews that are tired and demoralized, and a navy that is overstretched. That is the issue here. Not mere cosmetic differences.

[@charlesburke2379]

When the British fleet returned after heavy sea action in the Falklands the stormy south Atlantic had corroded their fleet as terrible as anything I ever saw. It was almost absurd. But they had just won a distant faraway war without a single friendly seaport.

[@MuffinManUSN]

They outsourced paint process to the VA

[@Bazerkly]

Reality Check: Many of your photos are of the US Navy's mothball fleet. Many have sat in mothballs for years.... Better do your research.

[@Ned-r4t]

Some of the dull finish in mothballs is antifouling paint

[@prcr8tion]

Because it fits the narrative.

[@rakerdinh7593]

Look at Chinese fleet, spotless, are you sure? They hide everything that they don’t want you to see, typical Chinese propaganda. Don’t believe what you see.

[@JoeyRay-fz1qe]

The thing is that ships need allot of men to run them and also to keep them up. They are making them more automated to cut down crew size since they can't get enough men to join up. With smaller crews they can't do the maintenance when they are underway and have to wait till they can get back to port since they aren't needing to be manned at stations!

[@patkinder6632]

Our ships deploy and train , in port maintenance and painting are done , those Navy's don't go out much , nor do they deploy as long as US Navy vessels .

[@josephpadula2283]

JFK being scrapped in Brownsville Tx right now !

[@ArmandoRamirez-j7w]

It's because we have a blue water navy and the Chinese don't venture very far from port, in other words are navy is out to sea much longer than the Chinese,so they have very little time to paint, also a clean ship is a ship that is not used very often.

[@pakjai5532]

It also makes maintenance costly and time consuming. This is why US navy spends so long to get them ready and back out again. It's not very sustainable.

[@gazzman6547]

Chinese "Navy" is mainly used for parades and propaganda oh and harassing small fishing boats.

[@marcplucinski8846]

Chinese ships never leave the dock, their tug boats are used alot, on the occasion a Chinese ship leaves port well the tugs tow them back to be tied up again. Made in china still says it all,

[@pakjai5532]

@marcplucinski8846 I think that was America. Their ships go on missions for at least six months, yet they can’t keep up with maintenance right now. Servicing such a large naval fleet is taking a toll on the navy because it's costly and slow. This has led to poor maintenance, as they have to extend operational times and delay scheduled services. They simply don’t have enough shipyards to keep up. The Chinese, on the other hand, do not have this problem. Their maintenance costs are lower, and their ships get serviced promptly since they have the largest shipyards in the world. This explains why their ships are everywhere these days. They now have the largest navy in the world because their shipyards are consistently free to build new vessels. As the world’s largest exporter, they naturally have the biggest fleet of commercial tankers. To believe they have tankers that can traverse the globe but lack a capable military fleet? How intellectually dishonest can you be? 😂

[@marcplucinski8846]

@@pakjai5532 I agree our ships are at sea doing what they were designed to kicking ass. Russian and Chinese ships collect dust and rust

[@williambinkley8879]

Having spent 7 plus years at sea on board US Navy ships, I think you missed a vital difference between the US Navy’s fleet and that of China. One of the ships I served on was over 30 years old, and as such was much more prone to corrosion than the newer ships I served on. This did not affect the war fighting capability of the ship in the least, just her outward appearance.

[@robertw.anderson6102]

Not sure I buy this idea. During World War II ships were forward deployed even long periods of time. But there is one big difference Navy ships in those days had larger crews. And many members of those crews were used in rust abatement. I’ve read many statements about rush chipping duty. And they actually painted deployed ships to help fight rust. Crews these are smaller allowing for far less manpower to work on rust abatement. And rust abatement was not considered good duty. And I’m guessing the NEW sailor is less interested in manual labor. Causing the Navy to let this to facilitate reenlistment.

[@Toparchi123]

Well, you see US ships all over the world. And, where are Chinese ships? In the dock! That is the difference

[@jberry1982]

I know old navies conducted regularly scheduled maintenance at sea especially on the old wooden ships they painted and scraped barnicals and coral off the hulls while at sea

[@JONGUERRY]

Our destroyer was" haze grey and underway ". We were in home port for 3 months out of a 24 month period and never showed anywhere near that level of surface corrosion.

[@muffdiver4973]

0:24 Whats up with showing some rusty chains that is sitting on some recreational trailer? Did you get that footage a junkyard?

[@dhrpro1]

Im a 43 yr career painter. Id like to humbly say when it comes to painted equipment its not just about investment protection likewise it is pride. Which is an important part of being an American. On and off the job. Thats who we are. Thats what we are.

[@rakerdinh7593]

Wow, don’t judge the book by its cover?

[@stephenwalling5878]

I was in a submarine which spent most of its time under the water, so naturally we spent a lot time on "chip and paint "

[@michaelmcgovern8110]

Because the Chinese Navy has nothing better to do than polish its boats. The United States Navy is actually busy on the oceans. Thank you.

[@amorosogombe9650]

Because they are forward deployed and used, not just for show. Also mothballed ships are not the same as active duty ships.

[@alanhughes1262]

They also closed Subic bay Philippines where they had all this painting work done at a fraction of the price in the USA.

[@AbbyNormL]

Does anyone really think China, Russia, India and other nations are using the ‘planet friendly’ versions of paints or the more effective toxic ones? That answer is simple when compared to the number of coal fired electric plants being built in those countries vs. the US.

[@MichaelJohnson-kx3ln]

It's always been tough for war ships maintenance, from the age of sails & now.

[@Jollyroger1096]

You're being very dishonest with the "Rusted" ships you're showing. Those vessels are in storage for disassembly or decommissioning. Especially the Carrier you showed at the beginning. That particular ship was decommissioned and being prepped for scrap.

[@engineeranonymous]

You also forget to mention China has more man power, shipyards and facilities for ships. Leaked intelligence report by US NAVY shows that China's shipbuilding capacity is 232 times greater than the United States. So no surprise that PLAN ships looks in pristine condition.

[@noelacosta2245]

True coz they have a very cheap labor

[@everypitchcounts4875]

It helps never going beyond the West Philippine Sea

[@brianboye8025]

They have a huge number of shipyards than America. This is a result of our lack of shipping infrastructure.

[@LooneytoonsIndville]

I hear lots of EXCUSES for a lazy bunch of raghats! I spent 6 years on Navy ships. Whenever we weren't working in our rate, we were cleaning, painting and doing maintenance! This video makes me SICK just looking at the pictures!

[@didierduplantier8359]

Our equipments may not look good but they are tested and can be relied on to do their jobs in a pinch

[@dr.j5642]

There are pictures of rusty Chinese ships as well lol. Seawater causes rust, that's just nature for you. There is routine maintenance that addresses these cosmetic issues periodically. Haters will snap those ugly pics and then people who have no idea will freak out for no reason.

[@JoeyBlogs007]

They could use image processing deploy drones that fly around the ship looking for rust discolouration spots, then spray remove rust with a rust removal agent and then wash, dry and spray paint the ship's surface in the areas where the rust was removed. This could be done at sea. If this is done regularly, then corrosion would be minimal. The drones could map the exact locations where rust is detected and the data points uploaded to the ship's central maintenance database. Later when the ship returns from a deployment, those areas logged can be further inspected by ship painting robots used in dry dock. basically every square inch of the ship's external surface can be digitally mapped and tracked for ongoing maintenance. This combination of drones, automation, and data-driven maintenance could revolutionize how ships are maintained, reducing costs, improving efficiency, and extending ship lifespans.

[@hangfirejp1197]

Chinese ships made out of plastic don't rust.

[@josephpacchetti5997]

Good Video, Thank's subbed.👍🇺🇸

[@samuelmerrick3506]

Because $800,000,000,000 a year isn't enough?

[@katrine-pearls]

OLD and faithful. Beauty is in the eyes of the BEHOLDER. Never underestimate the capabilities and its abilities.

[@vernonedmonds8596]

Worthless bias video. The US doesn't slap fresh paint or maintain decommissioned ships. It also sends a message to allies and enemies that the US Navy is vulnerable, weak and lazy

[@saveaslavesaveaslave448]

When US Navy ship went into Hong Kong harbor. Mary Sue side painters painted the US Navy ships ( cheap) . Also the water and food came from mainland China. Mary Sue also did sewing and laundry and took away the ships garage (cheap).

[@johnrussell1881]

Would you rather have an American battle group defending you or a Chinese battle group?

[@leefster1]

The us navy ships used to be spotless too back in the 80-90s

[@stevenrusch6341]

Another reason these ships are rusted is because they've been used for decades. If a vessel is considered too old to use, they probably already have a new one on drydock.

[@cabasadefogo9533]

The rust is a special paint from India made of cow dung extract which absorbs radar thereby giving the ships a partial stealth feature!

[@zzzz6511]

That may really be the truth.

[@Altay0047]

Haha

[@duchebag3063]

For below! 81-2010 on DD968 CGN37 CG56 CG60 CG72 All these ships had a tad bit of rust from continuous overboard discharge ports and as soon as docked it was fixed. Now budget cuts and pride in ship are gone.

[@inktownfishing4505]

Rusty on the outside means rusty on the inside. Under capacity on maintenance.

[@joechang8696]

it's the nuts and bolts. replacing them with moderately more expensive nickel alloy steel significantly reduces rust stains

[@kdrapertrucker]

Because U.S. ships are at sea a lot,while chinese ships spend much more time at the bottom of the Yangtze river.

[@HDSME]

What is with rotting decommissioned ship waiting to be scraped?

[@jimcipriano5322]

Yes they don't leave port either

[@chrisnadres494]

Watching from Brampton, Ontario, Canada ❤❤❤❤❤

[@blackhornetf]

The video also explains that the American Navy switched to "Environmentally Friendly Eco paint coatings years ago." If you watch the whole video, he does explain this , along with the many other reasons.

[@brianboye8025]

Obviously we are not investing in robotics to main our navy ships. Too bad.

[@rosauroruz2928]

Simple!Chinese ships made of plastic while us ships made in pure iron,,,,,,

[@jberry1982]

Build the exterior hulls with stainless steel idk if that would help against sea water I know it does in all industrial applications I've seen

[@alaxbird4954]

even stainless steel can rust

[@SentimentalMo]

@@alaxbird4954titanium then

[@JimmyMacalos]

Rusty no maintenance no rusty over maintenance

[@johnjagodzinski9878]

Deck divison is responsible for the appearance of the ships, aside from many other jobs that are assigned from the Boatswains Mates.

[@stacyhackney6100]

I choose functional optimization over pristine appearance.

[@Wireman68]

Next question is why do US Navy sailors and Admirals dress in drag?

[@johmsparks9708]

If you go out on a US naval vessel you will see that there are people constantly scraping and painting. I sorry but this way over dramatic.

[@davidwratten7728]

P S copper bottomed from 1780 to keep them at sea longer to protect the timber planking and stop fouling

[@chrissegee]

So this fool compares decommissioned ships to brand new off the dock and tries to play it off as reality.

[@Lucysdad66]

I can't leave fast enough

[@lens7859]

You are about as believable as Kirby

[@howardwhite5131]

Plus, the Navy does not use an epoxy based paint that slows the rust down.

[@danielrocks3143]

It’s because US carriers works while china doesn’t

[@arcyhicks8335]

This is nonsense. The US military across all branches isn't the strongest on this 🌎 just because of sheer numbers. It,s mainly because of training and the fact that they have the best and most well maintained equipment on the 🌎. And why are you trying to make a comparison where there is none? Yes. China's navy does have some very nice, modern, and well maintained ships and equipment. But their navy along with their other military branches are rather pathetic by comparison 🙄

[@SumTingWong888]

Like ?

[@mydad156]

Rusty equipments meaning it's something wrong.😁

[@TCW838]

LangNguyen-vd4zt Building submarines to start with.

[@SumTingWong888]

@@TCW838 In China they built for Quantity, that fine if you are in war time. You do understand that the same China ship yard that built commercial ship is building their military ship. If you understand anything about ship building that commercial and military are built differently. Their ship are not nice , it’s just look nice like doesn’t mean they are modern.

[@4g63attack]

@@SumTingWong888lol said the Chinese 50 cent keyboard warrior…. Oh what ship caught on fire a few months ago??? The Chinese navy, what metal was used on their ships?? Cheap subpar metal quality… probably left over from the Great Leap Forward… lol…. And lastly if you’re saying the military ships came out of the same commercial ship yards… highly likely it’s tofu dreg ships much like your buildings…. 😂 bring back the junk ships 😂

[@jberry1982]

Try painting them with flex seal or rhino liner lol

[@jberry1982]

Or that polyurethane coating like they do on pipe lines

[@gilbertestiller]

It’s been observed that a Chinese navy fleet would leave port the longest is at seven days then return. More like a ‘propaganda fleet.’

[@OrionsMako]

Those that focus on cosmetics, before everything else that matters, are usually missing something.

[@charlesburke2379]

Right. But remember those that do that are usually civilians. One of the most frequent civilian criticisms I hear about the US Navy is how compared to other world navy's US warships appear almost devoid of weapons.

[@michelwong1]

Simple lah ! Go back to shipyard every year and have a new layer of PAINT COATING , OLD ship will looks NEW ! 😁😁😁😁😁😁🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kittyfrisco7681]

I recall back in the 1970's and 80's China didn't have a Navy! or there wasn't much of one. We sailed up and down the South China sea and never once, did a Chinese ship appear on the horizon. As far as rust is concerned! We used to have a paint called Red Lead Paint! And we clean the paint brushes by hand using JP5. The best carcinogens money can buy!

[@davidbell1619]

Remember, Unky Billy Clinton shut down nearly all of our Navy Yards. If memory serves we now only have 3.

[@samlbrown6665]

Now we see the difference between a bath tub navy and a navy that actually puts to sea.

[@vancelunn2132]

The goal of the Navy should be to prevent an adversary from starting something in the first place while ceding none of America's interests. So the best balance of appearance vs combat readiness is that which will accomplish this goal. Since I am no expert, I cannot speculate on just what this balance might be.

[@bradjohnson7518]

Ships putting in work.

[@larryaftertheroad6174]

I bet that chinse sub looked really good before it went missing.

[@ronald9237]

Chinese Subs sink in port😅😅😅

[@AMERICANPATRIOT1945]

US Navy ships are for patrols and combat. Chinese and Russian warships are for show.

[@MuffinManUSN]

So we agree that this is Service Connected? I'm sharing this video with the VA so don't take it down.

[@joeatwood1346]

The French ships in the 1700s were better looking; the British ships were better employed; the results were telling.

[@beenthere5505]

painting/maintaining the hull of an aircraft carrier during home port with, hmmm, let's say 4 or five three/four man teams: 1st week: Hey Boats, make sure you needle nose gun down to the steel until it is shiny. Put primer on it and then paint it. Reality: - pull up the barge with man lift to location; run LP hoses, get deck ape(s) aloft, tiny needle nose gun in hand - maybe done by lunch first day... - if you have a good team you have already primer and haze grey with the aloft crew.... - well, if ya' work by the "standard" you'll be needling away to where it needs to be about 15 - 30 min on the hull depending on size of ugliness (let's say 0.5 sqft) - USS Ronald Reagan (rough estimate here just for one side of the boat) 1,092 ft by 134 ft = 146,328 sqft (at least/likely much more) - do the math - rumor - officers have been to college and should have recognized decades ago that this is going sideways every time in homeport - in foreign ports we rarely do hull maintenance... - even if you have three barges or more - you'll be tripping all over each other week 2 or 3 (maybe even four): - well, depending on how observant leadership is and/or Boats'n CPO is able to "successfully" show that the "math is not working" - no more needle nosing and priming - spray paint over it - fun fact: spray painting will not cover up everything from aft to forward in time since next underway is likely in another three to four weeks... or sooner... consider doing this in January, eight or often more hours a day, when the wind is blowing with a summerly breeze (just lied here) underneath the flight deck and ya' spray painting, the paint running down on your hands, freezing cold... I have seen grown men weep doing this. hint here - you can only put two personnel on a cherry picker at a time... and that is already tripping over each other... welcome to the land, sorry, sea of ineffectiveness... and of course the attempt(s) to look good to higher ups - promotion points here after all... sand blasting is a bit more effective... still, not enough time... shout out to all boats'ns side crews - I feel you!

[@jayaneyon9316]

I'd think it's just cause our ships are older and have been used more and rust doesn't really matter if it's just on the surface.

[@robertsweeney4457]

It depends considering the fact that after a cruise you spend 6 months in drydock so the keel can be cleaned of barnicals and rust plus empty out diferent vents of dead sea life so ýeah ive been down thêre you feel very small standing under a masive vessle plus the weather decks get needle gunned then primered and paint and in the case of carriers the cats are worked on and the deck gets new nonskid so when it gét out it can go through its sustainment training period of 3 months out to sea and 3 months in port preparing for the next deployment so the fact that we can pull that off with 11 to 12 carriers is normal but 3 carriers for china is nice but theyre kind of contained in their deployments but i dunno our ships never look like theyre rusting at anchor but they do look weathered after a cruise just not to the point where youd need a tetnus shot

[@yours_sincerely48]

The truth is , its getting old and do remember it was built decades ago.

[@byronking9573]

Yes, US Navy has a rust issue. But no, this video is not a good overview. Many of the screenshots are laid-up vessels in the mothball fleets, if not imagery of ships long ago sold for scrap. One key driver of rust in the Navy is deferred maintenance. Because US shipyard capacity cannot meet Navy needs; definitely, not the UG govt yards which have massive backlogs. In general, US has badly underinvested in yards and maintenance capacity, This is particularly bad in the arena of human capital; meaning skilled people, training and career pipelines for the maritime industry and Naval service.

[@charlesburke2379]

I thought he was going to report that corrosion enhances stealth.

[@F15ElectricEagle]

Why? Because the U.S. Navy actually uses its vessels for the purposes and tasks they were designed and built for.

[@charleschenhua]

Another function for Navy is power projection, it won’t project much power when it’s a rust bucket

[@charlesburke2379]

Modern ships now conceal almost all the weapon systems below the deck. Giving many warships a nearly harmless appearance. Projecting power will be difficult if that keeps up. Which might be why ignorant enemies like Somali Pirates and the Red Sea radicals are foolishly challenging warships because so much of the battle fleet appears unarmed.

[@donkim2976]

surface rust is just a cosmetic thang 😂😂😂

[@interstellar618]

No. Never wondered at all. I wonder why you show a bunch of old ships to represent us with this puff piece on Chy-Na and their lame navy.

[@frankthompson6503]

On top of the steel except for the landing decks cover with heavy plastic.

[@benjamintowns9798]

Don't forget environmental regulations while in foreign and domestic ports. It's hard to get permission at some ports to paint ships.

[@Xis-ql5pj]

Why are u using clips of mothball fleet? Nice try Trollski. They pay u in rubles comrade ?

[@rosaurolaririt3304]

Oh! my gosh, it is beyond compare US NAVY SHIPS travel all over the world by month and years. Chinese ships travel only beyond there port by day or week. The farthest is around the Philippine Sea to find small rift to squat....

[@youngstunna1594]

Which ships look rusty??? Tf??? They all look barely older than 10 years

[@DelfinoGarza77]

It really looked like goliath would win.

[@davidb.fishburn9338]

It's because the US navy ships are workhorses, not parade queens. They may not be the prettiest, but they get the job done. Btw, lower the volume of the background music, it's hard to hear when the narrator's voice gets drowned out by the music, which is unnecessary anyways.

[@jarryan2136]

comparing the mothball fleet to a full fleet is comedy

[@avkk2314]

US ships had been out a lot more than Chinese ships,Chinese ships are new with less Experience crew.

[@stanleyray4085]

Because e Chinese finally figured out how to copy one😂

[@darrinthompson5339]

There a great difference between a blue water fleet vs a green water

[@reypascual1415]

It's because the Chinese Pirates has the most advanced derusting laser machines.

[@thecaribbean8615]

We need to increase the capacity of our ship building and maintenance. This can only occur with a significantly improved U.S. economy.

[@TheLunacyofOurTimes]

If there are current active USN ships in service with deep puncture wounds from rust in their plating, I would be worried. But these are not the pictures you show. The next time one is in your nearest port go see it. It won't have gaping holes like the scrapper you showed.

[@jberry1982]

Cuz ours are always at sea constantly and there's are in dry dock most the time

[@stevepadilla9729]

China doesn’t have a cap of money they can spend for their military. They are exempt, if how much they should spend on their Military.