Budget Battle w/ the Nitpicking Nerds | Extra Turns 45 | Magic: The Gathering Commander Gameplay

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Show Notes:
What would you do with $100? You could get one Jeweled Lotus, or build an ENTIRE Commander deck!
This episode, we’re showing off just how far Mr. Ben Franklin can take you with four high-powered, low-cost brews. And who better to showcase this theme than budget experts Mia and Beezy from the Nitpicking Nerds in their first Extra Turns appearance vs. Jimmy and JLK. Prepare for a frugal fracas like you’ve never seen before!
It’s Baeloth Barrityl vs. Svella vs. Sefris vs. Jolrael
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Follow Our Guests Online:
Mia and Beezy:
KZbin: / @nitpickingnerds
Twitter: @NitpickingNerds @MiaLargo
Instagram: @mialarg0
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Deck Lists:
Beezy’s Svella:
www.archidekt.com/decks/65411...
Mia’s Baeloth Barrityl & Noble Heritage:
www.archidekt.com/decks/65411...
Jimmy’s Sefris:
www.archidekt.com/decks/64427...
JLK’s Jolrael:
www.archidekt.com/decks/64427...
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Directed by: Jake Boss
Executive Producer: Josh Lee Kwai
Co-Producer: Jimmy Wong
Post Production Supervisor: Josh Murphy
Edited by: Gilberto Navarro
Special FX and GFX: Eric Lindvall
Additional Editing: Eric Lindvall
Sound Mix by: Eric Lindvall
Director of Photography: Jake Boss
Deck Coordinator: Rachel Weeks
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[@NitpickingNerds]

Thanks for having us! This was a ton of fun and we always love showing off budget brews! 😄

[@theaeskey2502]

Awesome game! Great decks!

[@brovanos]

crazy collaboration here!

[@TB317]

Literally just tuning but got soo excited when I saw "Nitpicking Nerds" in the title. Enjoy you guys channel and its cool to see you on here.

[@Nvgification]

Finally seeing my 2 favorite MTG channels partner up. Glorious day!

[@BatMathBrunoMatt]

FINALLLYY THEYYY BE ON THE SHOOEWW❤❤❤

[@overknox6558]

That untaping of the Basilica... damn i love that man😂😂

[@buddhathegod]

That was so incredibly well-done, I for sure would not have thought of that had I been in his shoes

[@dallaslane6868]

Josh proving why running land removal is morally ok.

[@ryanstewart2289]

Land destruction? Excellent. Mass land destruction? You've got one turn to win the game or it's fight on sight for life.

[@marcelo9752]

In fact, he's proving that Traverse the Outlands can be a broken card. LD-based decks still tend to make the game boring

[@swiigglleew.7192]

Unban Balance!

[@theburntcheeto]

​@@marcelo9752I've been saying for a while that TtO is severely underrated. Landfall decks make such good use of it that I almost autoinclude it in the archetype (if they're creature based).

[@Belena711]

@@ryanstewart2289 So a toxic game action turns you forevermore into a toxic player. 😂Geez...

[@B__C__]

"Worth it's weight in goad." 🤣😂🤣

[@Ahyoka28]

Came here just for this comment! 😅😂

[@patrickeisert6873]

Omg nitpicking nerd on command zone you guys have come so far!!!!

[@seanburwell6535]

Joe Cherries 👋

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

He been here before I believe

[@CaptainZone1337]

And it only took getting Joe Cherries off the channel to get in.

[@captaindaddd6055]

@@CaptainZone1337 hardly think that has anything to do with it. unless someone can prove me wrong?

[@ryork12]

​@@CaptainZone1337What a cringe thing to say. You look pretty silly tryna be an Internet bully.

[@midnightbard3935]

"Usually you walk on land, sometimes the land walks on you" is such a good line 😂

[@RodrigoCML7]

Mia is such a treasure. Beezy is more of a clue, but both rock.

[@Joh1234jo]

Joe must be junk

[@andrewwagner2097]

You guys definitely need to do more budget decks like this. I really think that it will help the entire magic community. There are so many people that watch your videos.

[@DantesBlowtorch]

Jimmy not exiling Josh's GY hurt me inside, especially with a Skullwinder on the field. Very fun episode!

[@kh0di]

I was trying not to scream at my monitor lol

[@floend4810]

For me that was the finale nail proving that this is a scripted show.

[@burnsboy101]

@@floend4810if it was scripted why would they make him play a graveyard exile card, what would be the point? Use some critical thinking skills

[@veganpork7601]

@@floend4810 Braindead take. How does a misplay make you think the show is scripted? Why would they write a misplay into the script? People who say GK and XT are scripted are just clueless

[@mateotrimboli1232]

OMG can't believe this is happening, been following the Nerds for so long, and them, The Command Zone and budget brews is like a match made in heaven for me honestly. Congrats Nerdss!!❤

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

Nah need Mitch

[@Ghost26968]

Using extra turns to show off different aspects of commander (like budget deck building) that Game Knights can't is why I love it so much.

[@Cephalopopo]

It's great but disagree on that. Bearforce was on game knights and it was effectively budget. People can indeed show off creative and or budget stuff there, they just don't.

[@Ghost26968]

@Cephalopopo That is one guest playing a budget deck, though. I'm talking about setting up the pod so they are on theme. That's hard to do with Game Knights since its just a vehicle for whatever new set is coming out, but extra turns allows that flexibility.

[@Cephalopopo]

@@Ghost26968 unless this is a wizards commercial series I still don't see why it is not possible to do budget friendly decks with a new set. I give you an example. Let's say the eldrazi make their return. Now they could call the episode in the wake of the titans, and then they make 4 budget decks that for instance tell the story of some place that is affected by the eldrazi, but from the point of view of just common people vs some eldrazi titan's footmen. Something like that would be very flavourful and doable. I get your point I just don't think it has to be that way. That one guest's deck did not match the others in power level yet he just had a great creative mind and even won once. They should not use the printed commanders anyway, it is just very lame and pushes commander away from its original spirit anyway ..

[@richrdp02]

​@@Cephalopopoand let's be honest here - Josh's deck was definitely not fun or creative! everyone else brought something fun and interesting to show off the best parts of brewing on a budget, but simic deck doing simic things to take over a game and stomp the table is just such an eyeroll.

[@Doctor_Faust17]

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS EXTRA TURNS FOR SO LONG. This video single handedly revived my MTG phase, thanks guys

[@jeffnorris211]

This is the collaboration we all needed to see. Nerds vs Knights.

[@jacobl1139]

So happy to see Jolrael get the same reaction from Beezy that I get from everyone when I play her. "I've never seen that card before but it puts in work."

[@marcosribeiro2304]

Really nice to see you guys playing with cards that are more accessible to everyone and showing that you can still have a ton of fun! I would love to see a Pauper Commander episode in the future!

[@WIBYTIEDH]

Untapping someone else's land to save the board is such a pog move

[@Reflexzzzz]

Josh discarding instead of playing his enchantment that gives max hand size, I thought he made a mistake turns out he was holding up spell pierce. He uses it in critical moment and the "wait I can interact with this" from the gruul deck was so cool

[@WIBYTIEDH]

@@Reflexzzzz it's what I love the most about Commander is you're not gonna see weird and intuitive plays like that in other formats

[@theaeskey2502]

Here for the budget brews. Happy to see one of the biggest yt channels in the mtg space letting people know you don’t have to spend 1000s of dollars to have an awesome and swingy game! Would love to see more of this on the channel.

[@richrdp02]

Swingy? josh took over this whole game and 3v1'd the whole table! i love janky budget brews with all my heart, and i'm quite disappointment that Josh chose to play such a boring simic archetype for this one. Jimmy and the nerds did a good job of showing us how fun and interactive budget brews can be, while Josh decided to go "easy mode" for this one with a basic "simic doing simic things" build.

[@Charles_Thiboutot-Lessard]

Gotta love beezy, he's so good at finding small neat interactions.

[@richrdp02]

Beezy's interactions were the best part of the game, and it's a shame that Josh's boring and oppressive simic deck didn't allow his guests more space to shine

[@zadocr675]

Let this be a lesson to everyone. Always exile someone's graveyard if you can, regardless if you think they can replay it

[@Natedogg2]

$100 budget is a fun restriction if you're not used to a budget. It becomes a balancing act - "I could include Card X, but that card's $8, which is a large part of my budget for one card, which means I have to cut back somewhere else". I have an Obeka $100 budget deck that I like to play, and sometimes the price of something jumps and you have to decide if it's still work including or if you need to replace it with something cheaper and less effective.

[@kingofbudokai]

$100 I don't even consider "budget". That's just a legitimate deck at that point. Not "optimized" no, but genuinely strong. You can easily make a 6-7 power deck with that much money. There are thousands of good cards that are $2 or less in commander. Budget, in my mind, is $50 or less.

[@cornseed1708]

I have a solid $50 Brion Stoutarm that I love. My pod has also toyed with $5 budget decks, too, which was wild. I made Sinai and Eligeth

[@Wotansfogal]

100$? bruh even 50$ could stomp someone easily

[@gibbysg8143]

My playgroup does $75 secret Santa every year that’s always a blast!

[@cornseed1708]

@@gibbysg8143 that's a really cool idea. We did that once, kind of. Everybody pitched in to get everybody else something. I got an alter of Krenko Mob Boss with my face on it. We built a deck for another friend. Stuff like that

[@jayslay6782]

36:50 this really does feel like an episode sponsored by bounce lands 😂

[@TakeMeToHonkerBurger]

Whoever did the background music on this killed it. Love that whiney 90’s riff

[@minine6508]

really wish y’all would shine more light on building budget like this extra turns. I know y’all bring up time and time again how you tend to play higher power decks but I do genuinely like the budget games where a lot of different kinds of strategies thrive

[@chrishenderson2439]

Jimmy, thank you for playing a super slept on commander! Typing this out at the beginning of the show so I'm rooting for you Jimmy!!!!

[@chrishenderson2439]

I was not disappointed!

[@UserNameMandatory]

So happy for @NitpickingNerds for getting this exposure!

[@ben_clifford]

5:02 "but it's worth its weight in goad" earned my like 😂

[@donovanloreman]

You would think Jimmy knows by now always target Josh with his GY removal.

[@Annasather]

Beezy is so tall, he’s almost out of frame when the shot zooms in lololol

[@ReVoLynx]

Loving Jimmy's look in the intro, he should rock bangs more often :)

[@davidrosenberg9615]

The crossover we deserve! CardKingdom must be so happy!

[@TheManaForge]

I have never been so excited to see a budget commander game! I’ll comment again when I’ve finished watching 😂

[@Zendrig]

How cool to see the Nerds finally on the Command Zone! Love both channels. Still waiting for Demo from EDH Deckbuilding, my other favorite channel.

[@gaddocknz2476]

I didn’t know that I wanted this Colab until I saw the thumbnail. Nice work guys.

[@Wojtek36762]

Love to see the Nitpicking Nerds on, and showcasing fun budget decks! They’re one of my favorite Magic channels.

[@richrdp02]

Love the nerds and I love budget decks! It's disappointing that Josh brought such a boring simic deck that took over the whole table and didn't allow anyone else's deck to really shine. budget isn't really the space place to play "try to stop the simic value train" and i would have loved to see beezy and mia's decks do a little more!

[@thatoneguyshawn]

Eyyyy I can't wait to watch this! Two of my favorite magic channels in one video!

[@krissrensen8265]

Naah.. miss DJ. And Commander at home is pretty sweet 😁

[@Specs_Appeal]

Man I’m for sure gonna sign up next time y’all have a fan event. That would be such an honor.

[@MrMalorian]

I love that Baeloth pairing. First background I tried was raised by giants, but I think this one is so much better.

[@nolifeSnorlax]

Who would have thought the lands deck would win 😅 honestly lands are even stronger in lower power games

[@DevouringKing]

Boros Decks feels always so weak and helpless in lategame. One Boardwipe/mass bounce and Boros is lost behind forever.

[@astrograph7875]

​@phillipp3940 It's your own fault for getting spoiled. If you didn't want spoilers, you should have waited till the end of the vid.

[@seanedgar164]

​@@DevouringKingtbf Baeloth should be insane this game but Josh is just running higher powered nonsense

[@richrdp02]

josh just HAD to build the most boring budget archetype imaginable to pubstomp the table with didn't he 🙄

[@peterd8251]

This inspired me to build a Jolrael deck, and I have really liked it! I ended up leaning away from the "make my lands into creatures" effects and towards control with bounce effects and graveyard recursion. That Skullwinder + Traverse the Outlands interaction is awesome, so I added Seasons Past and Mystical Tutor, which has become a cool engine to make sure I never run out of gas. and I keep a full grip for swinging with big birds! Glad to see the Nitpicking Nerds on here, too. Beezy and Joe Cherries really helped get me into EDH a few years ago

[@dcnole]

This was a fun surprise. Been subbed to Nitpicking Nerds since Beezy and Joe had 12,000 subscribers. Look at them now!

[@danielv6170]

Apparently I define budget differently. Even the basic lands were more than a dollar. At least it was nice to see that the second least expensive did some serious damage and explosive token-rhea.

[@MangoMann072]

So cool to see the Nitpicking Nerds on Command Zone!

[@eveninghat8715]

I have been waiting for this episode for years. This was super fun to watch!

[@unseeliedream42]

WOW Budget Decks with the Nitpicking Nerds, I couldn't be happier

[@Sinazok]

That was amazing! I'd love to see more budget content. It would be especially interesting to see a Pauper Commander game.

[@tomdoetsch8603]

I'm glad Jimmy went back to the dungeon deck!

[@JLKaizen]

Joe Cherries is punching air right now haha

[@1ntegrator]

Awesome video, amazing guests and decks, great job!

[@ficus666]

It's like the nitpicking nerds booked playing with different KZbinrs all in the same week, but only remembered to bring one deck each 😅

[@Atmatan_Kabbaher]

Every time Josh says "pretty good" an angel sings praise to Rachel Weeks 😂

[@Anima6six6]

Nice, glad to see y’all working together!

[@verlandes1]

So happy for the Nitpicking nerds to be here!!

[@DarkMewtwo1994]

The crossover I never expected but always wanted! Love the nerds and command zone! Can't wait to see how the game goes!!

[@vader2641]

cool episode! I would love for you guys to add the players' life totals next to the names. I found myself looking for it a couple of times when the phone wasn't visible, when some actions happened, and was a bit disappointed that they weren't there...

[@Flyboy245]

I think the epitome of this episode is strategy vs social contract. Ie. is it the right play strategically to counter your ramp or your commander? Definitely. Is it the right thing to do in a game that is centered around the environment and having fun? Now it gets hazy. Learning how to walk that line I think is integral to the gameplay experience you and the group want to have, but is definitely hard to do The JLK game knights interview impression was spot on 😂 This might be minute, but I noticed a change and I wanted to point it out. i enjoyed the closeups on each person from time to time. Helped the focus.

[@sammysofa1511]

Sefris is my favorite commander of all time! So excited to see her played here!

[@robertwagner7367]

Definitely a collaboration we've been needing.

[@javs2016]

So cool to see the nitpickingnerds on the CZ. I,ve been a fan of you guys for quite a few years.

[@shilohartisan]

I run Ley Weaver and Krosan Restorer in two of my decks (they combo with Maze of Ith), as well as Magus of the Candelabra, Hope Tender, and Argothian Elder. I've had plays like that, where I untap an opponent's land. It's really fun. I also run Skullwinder, and it can lead to some epic plays too.

[@nickatwork]

my god please do more budget games this was great

[@richrdp02]

just stay away from the boring simic budget builds please! not fun watching a simic player destroy a whole table with infinite value when other budget decks can't keep up

[@voidprism_studios666]

Was just thinking of building Jolrael. Excited to see Josh pilot and pop off with her!

[@codyreid2605]

Okay now bring on Janklords with sub-$50 budget decks :D

[@The-Swift-Kobold]

Great episode so happy to see the Nitpicking Nerds on the Command Zone

[@christophervennix9861]

I'd love to hear Jimmy's reasoning for targeting the empty graveyard @30 mins when Josh was clearly miles ahead and had already shown that he had graveyard recursion cards and was playing simic which has tons of ways to get stuff from the grave or unsummon and recast cards on the field. Exiling traverse the outlands would have had a massive impact on Josh's speed and ability to come back from board wipes. Exiling Mia's graveyard did nothing. There's no political argument either - Josh was already so far ahead that nobody could possibly object to you targeting him with everything you had.

[@Maroku]

It’s so cool that this collaboration got to happen!!!

[@p4tmaster]

So nice, love both of your channels!

[@dovinbaan8701]

I really enjoyed the content and I hope to see more budget extra turns in the future!🤩

[@oldmoon7690]

Nice match, fun to watch. At around 10:30-11:00 the land you attacked with would have had summoning sickness if I am not mistaken. In case that was missed.

[@Natedogg2]

Jolrael gives the land haste, to avoid this problem.

[@miketurner5730]

Heya Beezy! Long time no see. Glad to see you on Command Zone! Still loving your reviews and deck techs.

[@heresyseed]

That’s the wildest game I’ve ever seen! Legendary… Only one may stand!

[@hellspeth8255]

this was so much fun to watch, bring them back soon!

[@tantordoe5958]

It was only a matter of time 🤩 Cool to see the nerds

[@destrious8133]

Whew, I didnt realize how insane Jolrael was early game! Might have to fet one of those myself

[@ulyssessanchez2328]

No...flipping way... I love Nitpicking Nerds and I'm so happy to see him on this show Ty guys for bring in some amazing people 😢 love this community

[@cedricjackson1144]

This is why I love magic the gathering budget decks rock great episode game knights and nitpicking nerds love both your channels ❤😊

[@gustavoluiz872]

Long time I've been there. But this table was fire. Beezy untaping that land made the fun keep going.

[@cptregalz8091]

I'm so excited to watch this!! I have been waiting for the command zone x NN crossover for a long time

[@williammaykel138]

Damn, Beezy’s assist on that spell pierce was a top tier play

[@mitchelfulcer2874]

Love running into the Nitpickingnerds on all the content I watch! Just seen them on Play to Win the other day. (No idea when the episode was aired)

[@brandonliming9612]

Great guests and great games. Classic JLK!

[@ericberglund7141]

About to watch this... most hyped Extra Turns ever. Been waiting forever for my nerds to get on here.

[@shilohartisan]

Shigeki! he's so good! Four mana Regrowth isn't a great rate, but instant speed makes it WAY better. (And it's mostly uncounterable, and can be done through a Rule of Law). Then you add the other modes like six mana for two cards, or eight mana for four cards, etc (and all still at instant speed), plus Shigeki's actual abilities when he's a creature. It's an amazing card. I once got a T2 win because of Shigeki: T1 Forest Magus of the Candelabra T2 Maze of Ith Sol Ring attack with Magus Crop Rotation (exiling, Elvish Spirit Guide, sacrificing Forest), finding Lotus Field with Lotus Field's ETB trigger on the stack make infinite mana with Magus/Maze/Field channel Shigeki, getting Forest and Crop Rotation back to hand Crop Rotation (sacrificing Lotus Field), finding Voldaren Estate make infinite Blood tokens with Magus/Maze/Estate sac blood tokens until I have Yeva and Nylea Keen-Eyed in hand flash in Yeva flash in Nylea Nylea finds all my creatures flash in Surrak and Goreclaw flash in Temur Sabertooth flash in Shaman of Forgotten Ways flash in Kogla Kogla + Sabertooth fight the world activate Shaman to make my opponents' life totals go to 0 (he has haste from Surrak and Goreclaw) GG!

[@Vapor.Steve77]

Dude i love the nitpicking nerds!!! They had help me to make insane budget decks.

[@MageKS2]

OMG! I was looking forward for this collab! ❤😊

[@SomewhereInMiddleEarth]

About time you appear on the show @NitpickingNerds Definitely deserved it!

[@patrickhardenbergh218]

I love Nitpicking Nerds so cool to see them on Extra Turns

[@breakingtide]

2/3 of my fav channels together. Love itQ

[@gresh1134]

I actually have a Jolrael deck! It's far from the most powerful in my play group, but the theme is super fun and makes for some interesting gameplay decisions in my experience. Will definitely be looking at Josh's list for some potential new tech; that Traverse the Outlands is looking quite appealing 👀

[@styln2nyt]

Oh what!? NN on Command Zone!?!?!? That's badass! I'm at work, but this is a must see game.

[@joschajustinski14]

Great game and really fun decks!!

[@Z-S-H]

This was an awesome xtra turns! I loved seeing cards and builds "normal" people play!!!

[@jmchristensen42]

Jimmy with the 11/10 flavor play using the Monstrosity of the Lake to enter the Mine Tunnels

[@garrettestrada6434]

Nice! Love the Nitpicking Nerds!

[@Slackker_]

Those decks were all sick!

[@cheapskateotaku7123]

2 of the most highly follow commander podcast battling out is like watching the avengers assemble after years of waiting 😊

[@DoubleOhSilver]

budget decks make some of the funnest games

[@seanedgar164]

Yeah Josh was just at a higher power level, I totally agree tho

[@stevengamber]

This one was a fun one to watch. Can't believe Jimmy got lands lol

[@GameSpeer16]

dang this episode was awesome! love budget brews also the sniper charge sfx from Splatoon at 16:43 made me do a double take lol

[@rexone9564]

I play a lot of spell lands, AND bounce lands in even my mid power decks. Sometimes that bounce land draws you a spell.

[@Coolbeanfunny]

I like how some of these cards will go up in price because of the command zone effect. (Ok guys let’s make budget decks that will become non budget mostly)