NBA Trades Are Broken

[@runnymedeworks6326]

I never really saw how staggeringly bad the Gobert trade was until you put it side by side with the Durant deal.

[@azonnoza]

As a minnesota sports fan, we are all about terrible deals. The vikings giving kirk cousins a big contract was another one of those incidents.

[@NathanielSnider1017]

@@azonnoza kirk is an above average qb and his contract is not handicapping you all that much

[@varod6139]

@griffyye bro wtf

[@skillethead15]

Being completely honest. The Jazz fleeced both the TWolves and Cavs with those trades. Have you guys seen how Markkanen has been playing? Markkanen for Donovan straight up might have been fair but the Cavs gave up a lot more than just Markkanen.

[@AnotherStatsGuy]

And the worse part is, the Timberwolves could have cut the price by over half if they had just put lottery protections on those traded firsts. A bunch of potential 15th overalls is a hell of a lot less than a bunch of potential 1st overalls.

[@AlexGoat13]

This felt like the off-season

[@allthingsbasketball840]

Facts

[@YTshnitz]

Fax

[@luizansounds]

@Don't Read My Profile Picture mid trick, and i read your name roast me

[@TheDarkbluerock]

the actual off-season might be even crazier

[@Camefromnone]

Frfr

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

A Dallas vs Phoenix rematch at this point would have more hype than the eventual NBA Finals.

[@YungPhilosopher]

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[@onlyfacts3178]

STILL REMEMBER when people said the NBA FINALS would be NETS VS LAKERS...LAKERS missed the play-offs and got out in the 1st round.

[@toptiercrip]

Imagine if they both meet in the finals lmfao

[@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701]

Dallas aint that good.

[@hardywoodaway9912]

@@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701 is phoenix?

[@georgealexander1059]

I think KDs foot being on the line will be one of the most important moments in modern nba history. If the Nets had won, they had a great shot at the title. With a title, there's no way the team would've melted down like this, and the players wouldn't have been traded as early. That moment has led to a shake up of the nba's top teams (76ers, suns, mavs) and has changed the trajectory of at least 5 teams. Would love to see a video on how this disaster turned out in a few years.

[@John6-40]

Idk if they beat the Suns, tbh, and his foot was on the line, so none of it matters. Too many egos and toxic me first personalities was destined to implode at some point, regardless.

[@JEBEDIAH8D]

@@John6-40 but it's the what if situation. If the team sees how close it was to winning do they stick it out.

[@davidkruse4030]

That is a lot of ifs my guy. His foot was on the line. And there was way more basketball to be played

[@nickgrennan1164]

I think getting sweeped by the Celtics after that foot on the line game was icing on the cake...

[@VelhaGuardaTricolor]

@@nickgrennan1164 I think you meant last nail in the coffin

[@treezus4166]

Now I want to see a Mavs vs Suns playoff series

[@Crying2Death]

As a Suns fan idec if we lose, I just wanna be hype af during a playoff series like this

[@slimesizecounts5873]

Was just thinking this, nets really dealing to directly opposing teams

[@misterbaumi]

As a suns fun. One hand says, yes. We want a rematch. On the other hand, there is a traumatic moment of my life connected to that match-up ;D

[@spaghettisauce445]

you already saw one the luka special and they are gonna win again the suns are regular season frauds

[@dbr2829]

most likely would happen

[@bowmanencore]

The Nets imploded. Insane, really. The potential was unbelievable, but a team's gotta team.

[@_WeDontKnow_]

yea idk where Jxmy thinks holding KD hostage would have gotten the Nets. not a ring. ofc it feels like a bad trade but it's either that or have KD unhappy for 3 years, requesting trades every few months

[@bowmanencore]

@@_WeDontKnow_Yeah, they couldn't win with 3 superstars, then 2, so 1...nope.

[@ballstothewall38]

The nets never had a chance, they couldn't do shit while having 2 superstars.

[@davidkuhlman8004]

It had to be done. A superteam of DIVAs is not always a good idea.

[@breyonhopkins4795]

@Marco Esteban I wouldn't say that.... without that Kyrie injury, they most likely would've been in the finals.

[@MrBrightside390]

As a suns fan from phoenix I'm hyped but also cautious. We gave away a lot of depth with Makal Bridges and Cam Johnson. Both of them were young players that developed their whole careers within the suns ecosystem. In addition to our first round draft picks we've pretty much traded our future away. Kevin Durant is one of the greatest but he's very injury prone especially recently. I think there's a bigger chance that this could blow up in the suns face than people are willing to admit right now

[@DuranceBell]

Yeah, the odds of both KD and CP3 going through an entire playoff run without getting injured is pretty much 0. That's assuming they stay healthy enough during the rest of the regular season to even make the post season. They're only 2.5 games ahead of the 12th place team. That's not much of a buffer.

[@ConstantineH]

username checks out. jokes aside, i agree with you, although i think with a healthy KD this could very well work in the suns favour and bring a championship.

[@Joe_Ma99]

Agree, great move but it’s riskier than most ppl are saying.

[@jaketerpening3284]

TBH, KD isn't that injury prone. He doesn't rely too much on attacking the basket, and the times he goes down are hard hits. He's not like AD who pulls a muscle while helping up his teammates. I think it's more of a bad luck thing than him being injury prone.

[@michaeljenks6259]

No telling how Booker will react either. He seems like a guy who wants the ball and attention. He is now in KD's shadow.

[@kwanryan5914]

Watching this in 2024 after the wolves killed the first round and suns got swept lol

[@ajin.818]

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[@prosaic_viper]

Arguably, these last 3-5 days felt like an entire off-season. From Nets and Mavs to Lakers and Suns, the whole league has gone wild. It is exciting though, and worth staying up until like 4am as a European fan. Meanwhile, Nuggets and Celtics are chilling at the very top of the league... It will be VERY interesting to see the now improved(?) teams challenge them, though.

[@IceDunker-2000]

It feels like we’re just fast forwarding to the playoffs so quickly for some reason

[@prosaic_viper]

@@IceDunker-2000 very true, my friend. Personally, I can't wait for the all-star weekend, but the league is obviously way past it already, and building up to the playoffs each day

[@IceDunker-2000]

@@prosaic_viper I know right. Like last season it felt moderate and easing-going as it slowly gravitated closer to the playoffs. But this year we’re more than halfway through the season already!

[@patches3]

barring injuries suns can maaaybe challenge the nuggets. in the east i guess bucks are the ones left to challenge boston lmao

[@jamsteroffthewheel4731]

Nuggets will fade in the playoffs like usual as a suns fan I’m only afraid of the mavs

[@Umi366]

As a Warriors fan, I welcome Suns fans to the club. No matter what happens now, whether you win or lose in the next few years. You’ll hear nothing except for 4 words: “You had Kevin Durant”

[@wwfchriswwf]

Underrated comment

[@sammmyDaviS]

🔥 fire 🔥 words yo 💯

[@esaicastro5735]

True but we all know what yall REALLY had

[@Texasjr93]

ITs different. You guys have ALL TIME Player generational talent Steph, with Klay Thompson who is also arguably a top 50 player all time, and Draymond one of the best all time defenders, whom already won a few chips before Durant. then added Durant on top of all that. The Suns (i am not defending I actually dont like them even before Durant) Have a past his prime and gets tired if her exerts to much in a game Chris Paul, Devin Booker who is a great offensive talent but chokes(Klay is better than him IMO), and Ayton who sometimes shows up for big games but is often rather quite(also got out rebounded by Luka in that series) They need Durant to win (I still think they wont) Golden state did not.

[@Wachary1]

@@Texasjr93I’m pretty sure they won 1 chip before Durant. Then they blew the 3-1 finals lead then signed Durant and won two more.

[@Blairskirock]

I can understand the Nets here. They have a diverse pool of talent to give time and see who sticks out, and those picks will probably allow them to round out their team into a very consistent, deep roster. They're prioritizing team basketball and want to grow their own stars with Claxton and Thomas with a bunch of great two way players. No superstar drama, no untenable cap situations. I honestly like their strategy.

[@legendarycollection7184]

Somehow there are superstar change to the worst because he win chip and sometimes they get better when win chip Durant kyrie to arrogant to think they can shut the media down just with they skill, bisede championship team is come from teamwork and sacriface. Thats why we saw guy like MJ, the team know how best to work with MJ and other guy should sacriface his talent for good resume like steph did for durant. Well just my opinion. I more like to build your own star in trustfull organization like nowday GSW, Milwaukee, Mav for example. But its not mean player like durant kyrie lebron who need to jump team to chase chip is bad, just sometimes it won't work because there is no chemistry for both in start play.

[@equilibrium_69]

It will take them at least 3 years to see if it even bears fruit though.. Hope they get lucky with their draft picks.

[@rainey06au]

This

[@ritasburger6965]

You can come back and roast my ass to hell if I'm wrong on this, but if Cam Thomas and Ben Simmons are going to the finals together ever, I will literally eat my own feces. As explained in the video, the trade looks good on paper and honestly Nets might've not really have had much of a choice, but this whole thing is a disaster. They are never going to do shit with these assets.

[@xeakpress]

Or just trade alot of the peices they got everyone of the player that have minus like Ben has value to alot of teams especially ones looking to contend

[@bricen5822]

Who’s here after Gobert won a dpoy and helped the wolves to sweep the suns 💀

[@Kimeikus]

When he said: “and FIVE 8th graders” I died 🤣🤣

[@ericranta5835]

As a Suns fan and season ticket holder, KD has given me hope that we can get back on track. I like Jimmy's assessment of the situation. I also really want to see another Suns vs Mavs series. Thanks for the great content as usual Jimmy!!! 👏

[@challenger_xne]

I'm not surprised you like the assessment. It was 8 minutes of saying your team may make the finals, how amazing they will be, how smart they are, how stupid the Nets are. lmao

[@helloworld-tw3hz]

Paul, Booker, Durant from mid range.. they are all top 5 mid range shooters in the league. That mid range game from the Suns will be deadly and unstoppable.

[@riothegod5750]

“assessment” lmao suns fans are clowns

[@riothegod5750]

@@helloworld-tw3hzpaul is not a top 5 mid range shooter you need your phone taken from u kid

[@JustTryingToYoutube]

Those tickets values just went way up lol

[@juuiceboxx]

The 5 8th graders part killed me😭

[@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaluigi]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA wasnt really that funny

[@tijustme24]

We knew that the nets would ultimately fall short. But damn I wasn’t ready for the trades that made the Mavs - Suns rivalry even bigger

[@sadmarinersfan8935]

The amount of power the players have is definitely getting crazy like there might come a time where small market teams have no shot to be good outside of a year or so if they get lucky in the draft

[@shida5320]

nah small market teams will have leverage to get superstars, and if that’s not the case I’d imagine it still wouldn’t come to that, too many factors

[@chucknorris277]

We are already there

[@chrissennfelder7249]

The Nets went from "yeah, the league runs through us now" to "our biggest contract is afraid of the rim" in record time. You gotta respect that.

[@lesgo4422]

fax im def getting clowned on when wearing nets merch out

[@tomsweeney729]

“Brickshot Ben” and “Mr. triple single himself” got me 🤣

[@ooooooooo8853]

As a warriors fan, seeing Durant going to the Suns is very very bad news for us 💀

[@ghostsploge8488]

you deserve it

[@anyidea3522]

Get to the playoffs 1st

[@joecoolberry911]

Just be thankful for the free rings he gave

[@drewleaguenz5654]

@@joecoolberry911 bro curry won without kd fuck you on about and then won again

[@petar2253]

@@drewleaguenz5654 in 2015 he beat the cavs without irving and love, 2016 lost, the nezt 2 years they had kd healthy and won, 2019 he lost, and now 2022 was his first earned ring

[@channingbloom7125]

As a mavs fans and to all nets fans “thank you for giving us kyrie.”

[@Tupadre97]

Won't be saying that when he leaves after they lose in the playoffs 😂

[@channingbloom7125]

@@Tupadre97 I’m prepared for that eventual outcome 😂

[@drasconboy6349]

As a Nets fan, Thank you for taking him

[@channingbloom7125]

@@drasconboy6349 I’m sorry for your losses. And for the fact that you have ben Simmons

[@drasconboy6349]

@@channingbloom7125 Let me know how much you love Kyrie after 2 years

[@joeycarlisle9844]

As a jazz fan, I'm still baffled that the Gobert trade ever went thru

[@Richyrichasf]

I never saw a jazz fan before

[@Invictus-Solaris]

@@Richyrichasf you must have not been around in the 90s.

[@joeycarlisle9844]

@@Richyrichasf you're right, the stadium is literally empty every jazz home game....wtf?

[@ethanwiley7605]

@@joeycarlisle9844 this year? I wouldnt doubt it with this seasons record but everyt time ive watched them for the past few years its alwayd packed and the jazz fans always go nuts. I think they just lost the hype with this new team

[@s.a.3857]

As a rockets fan, I had hopes of being better than the Jazz... I now hate the Jazz 😭

[@MeekMallard]

There is a way to fix them but they won’t, because trades and “super teams” get views. Nobody wants to watch Durant bogged down by Simmons. If they really wanted to fix this they would penalize it, but they do not. Imagine if Durant got benched for 5-10 games every time he did something like this? It wouldn’t be good for the fans.

[@nimahanna1709]

It woulda been cool to see how other comparable trades worked out for both teams, if there were ever any.

[@teppec]

I don't think the nets are quite so bad off as it looks at first blush. They've got a solid group of quality role players and starters, just need to find or develop a centerpiece. They are so flush in 3&D guys that they are likely going to need to move some, and everyone likes some good 3&D.

[@EJxSB]

Like who? With kd and kyrie they had the worst bench in the leauge. Now thats their starters

[@almac9203]

@@EJxSB that got Bridges Johnson DFS and Dinwiddie. That's 3 quality 2 way players and a decent PG. This isn't the same weak defensive team anymore. Bridges was runner up in DPOY voting and DFS is an excellent defender. Add that to Claxton and Simmons if he fixes his health and you have a ton of defenders. They lack a star to contend but they are a very solid team with good depth. They were a thin team with a few stars and now they are a deep team with no stars.

[@Jugi_boy]

As a Laker fan, it’s reassuring to see that there are organizations that run worse than us. Even if it’s only marginal 😂 at least we got rid of Russ

[@pugbrz9472]

I could not believe someone finally managed to pull the trigger. It was clearly a bad fit (and terrible value) when it first happened. You could have had DeRosen.

[@TheCableStrain]

Y'all need to trade LeBron for future draft picks lol

[@maelhuh]

The nets are in a better position now than the lakers

[@AngelArzuaga]

As long as Lebron is in your team, you will have favoritism

[@vanhattfield8292]

They would have been better off getting rid of Lebron and keeping Westbrook.

[@guitaroso]

Curious to see what Brooklyn's defensive rating will be after this

[@silverfang4583]

Insanely good, mikal is him, and cam Johnson is solid

[@domkeeify]

And they still have that dude Ben, he's pretty good from what I've heard.. Even hurts saying this, how is he still in the league

[@guitaroso]

@@domkeeify well defensively he is a beast but offensively he needs to just bloody put up shots - this is weirder than Fultz

[@setapartprod]

@@domkeeify maybe hes still in the league cause hes an incredible passer and all-league defender???

[@domkeeify]

@@setapartprod sure, but these players dont get paid 30+ million!! Even their coach said that its hard to incorporate him into the rotation, he is still young and refusing to shoot so what else can you add

[@Demi-kid]

I'm heart broken for Mikal and Cam welp if the Suns don't win its gonna sting just more.

[@vince6405]

It's KD so everybody is calling it a steal but seeing mikal and cam get traded just hurt man...

[@aaryasharma4940]

actually it would feel even worse if they actally go to the finals and win a ring co they couldn't contribute to the team when they won and that's probably the most tragic thing

[@rcgaming5087]

@@aaryasharma4940 Hopefully the suns can win it this year, so mikal and cam still get rings. Also I agree with what book said "we'll see what they're doing in what - 2026?"

[@linktown-blue907]

Looking back on this video, the true takeaway for me is that the Gobert trade was too prematurely paraded as the worst trade in NBA history. As long as you have a plan with what you’re doing (like the wolves seemingly did) and aren’t just trying to go out and get great players (like the Suns and Mavericks did), it should work out. A good video idea would be about how the NBA or sports fans as a whole are too impatient. I know that last year as a Wolves fan I was.

[@fortynights1513]

Could it be said that it took longer than a lot of trades to show how it could work out?

[@linktown-blue907]

@@fortynights1513 it could. I also realize reading my comment back that I was too impatient on the Mavericks. Guess I proved my point myself

[@ananmuadi31]

Man, the Suns just can't stop choking, can they😒

[@WrestlingIsReal649]

This was the most littest trade deadline of all time 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@Seinsmelled]

@Don't Read My Profile Picture I won't

[@ghostz2201]

Fr tho, every year it just keeps getting better and better 🔥

[@t-god2439]

Most litty 😂 don’t have to say most littest or just just the littest

[@yunopepper76]

Bucks in 5

[@nicolasraymond23]

You must be a suns fan

[@mluna6702]

As a Nets fan who was never a fan of the acquisitions, I applaud the trades. Get them outta here! I hope Jarrett Allen comes back.

[@jimmyrodriguez5670]

Good luck with that. The cat's out of the bag with Allen. It's obvious how valuable he is now.

[@koolkeithsdad]

JA is prob my fav current player

[@chozen3769]

no one would willingly go to that bum ass organization LMAOOO

[@mluna6702]

@@chozen3769 Shit, you're probably right. Turning into the Knicks.

[@RiverM8rix]

Shoutout to Steve Nash. They placed the blame on him, but still had to get rid of the players that complained about him.

[@Loqque]

"Cam Johnson and Mr Triple Single himself" got me laughing so hard. Holy shit.

[@sls12III]

"Luka's finally gonna get some help" How bad did this age?

[@moresuccess2503]

Still lost to Denver 😂

[@mikeoxlong9675]

I always felt like Brooklyn was just such a kyrie and kd type of place, they just looked like they belonged there. Tgink all of us wish we got to see them acc play together

[@4sxr]

the nets really wnat dinwiddie back 💀 but yeah it’s unfortunate because as a new yorker myself it was exciting finally having a good team

[@KSUBIKAYY]

@@4sxr naw fr, but dinwiddie was putting on when he was a og net. It’s only right.

[@eitherholyorevil7546]

To put you into perspective, Midseason deadlines trades are statistically more downgraded values than those Offseason deadlines, if you look at the history of trades. Offseason trades got more inflated due to availability of free agents, no worry of giving up players with more alloted roster spots open and Cap space market is easier to conduct moves than of Midseason trade deadlines, with less open spots, you need boughout or either you can't suddenly waive guaranteed players, you have to match salary. Thats what makes this 2023 Mid season deadlines so Unique than ever before, i never seen at this extent of players to be traded.

[@FlaggermusMann_]

I think the nets are gunna be a low key fun team. They have a lot of really solid role players and will probably be an ideal spot for a star level talent looking for their own team. They are pretty much in the position they were in before bringing in kd and kyrie. Solid team with no star

[@CaptainBuggyDClown]

Fax

[@dadnunez]

“solid team with no star” so we just pretending like Ben Simmons doesn’t exist, huh?

[@FlaggermusMann_]

@@dadnunez do you think he has played like a star?

[@Meyr3356]

@@dadnunez Ben simmons isn't even the defensive force we all thought he was in 2021, wdym he a star level talent?

[@TippedScale]

​@@FlaggermusMann_i feel like he could've been if he actually gave a shit about basketball

[@markreadin7124]

I like free agency and crazy trades too. LBJ pioneered modern free agency and can't say much as he'll retire unprecedented 40k 10k 10k 🤫

[@zachgordon9273]

The nets falling apart after having harden kd and kyrie really just makes me appreciate Lebron more for his heat championships. Just because you have the talent doesn’t guarantee a thing

[@MrRyan-wu4jx]

Nobody was ever concerned about the egos or predictability of Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, or Ray Allen. They’re very different situations with very different people.

[@cwebed-stuy9951]

Better make you appreciate KD when he was on warriors

[@captainbroward]

@@cwebed-stuy9951 why would anybody do that? The Warriors were already champions before he got there lol

[@bennynagon9322]

@@cwebed-stuy9951 if anything you respect Steph more

[@Viralfan443]

Great analogy! I would like to see a video regarding the dollar for four quarters trade in the history of the NBA. Keep it fair with both good and bad ones. Also including outside factors, such as the changes with cap space…

[@Edo.rigano]

The nets are in better shape as of now than the mavs I don’t this this was a terrible trade . They are aiming for a rebuild and thei did the best they could do to rebuild. They got a couple of good rotation players + the best rotation player in the league and a shit load of pics.

[@PresterJohn420]

correction, two of the nets were in their prime, harden had already taken a step down towards his end of tenure in Houston

[@IceMountainWtr]

Back after both teams fell apart

[@committedtodd]

This trade proved that slapping superstars together on one team won't always pan out. It's a shame the Nets wasted so much money on them but I'm sure everyone in the front office sleeps a lot easier now.

[@Hybridbasketball-ly1dn]

Update: Mavs: With kyrie they made it to the finals Suns: absolutely nothing

[@FDT222]

12 months ago the Nets had Harden, Kyrie and KD all on the same team. Insane….

[@SeanCronin-on7sr]

Who’s here after Kyrie didn’t even make the playoffs and the Suns got bounced out the playoffs in the same round as last year?

[@MountainDuwu]

“And 5 eighth graders” had me dying

[@lazi2423]

“And 5 8th graders” was funnier to me than it should’ve been 😂😂

[@kurtissjacobs5618]

They're only 8th graders if they all go 1-and-done. If they play 4 years, they're juniors already.

[@ozeppeo]

@@kurtissjacobs5618 you must be fun at parties

[@EndZiiel]

I know its been in the NBA for years but being from Australia and use to our trading systems and sports i hate this mid-year trade bs. How can someone just go to another team mid-year and be like "yeah ive always wanted to play for this team" -_- . All about the money .. not like they dont get enough as it is anyway.

[@Liambrouillette]

Really sweet that you thought they were contenders before the trades, apparently their management didn't see what you did. As a Celtics fan we were never worried about Brooklyn.

[@teddyisthedogpooche4531]

ayyy another celtics fan 🍀

[@jgray2718]

As you shouldn't have been. I think they only things you have to worry about are the Bucks and whoever comes out of the West. But mostly the Bucks.

[@vangjohnny08]

As a Nuggets fan i was excited that this may be our year to win the west. Now with these two trades it makes that dream a little worrisome. Should be a good battle in the west for sure though.

[@webgem14]

I’m a nuggets fan too. We should still hold on to the #1 seed. The grizzlies have some chance, and anything’s possible, but it’s a long way for the Suns or Mavs to catch up. I really hope they end up as the 2/3 seeds and play in the 2nd round. That would give us our best shot if we didn’t play either one until the WCF.

[@vangjohnny08]

@@webgem14 Agree'd, I think we will hold #1 seed by the end of the season. With that said theres a lot of time for KD and Kyrie to get accustomed to their teams. They can either be great fits or bad fits. Should be a good playoffs for the Nuggets either way if they all stay healthy.

[@boredapathetic]

also a Nuggets fan. not worried, this is our year.

[@jgray2718]

I don't know about that, I think you guys are still the best team in the West. Maybe Phoenix, but that's assuming KD is healthy, which isn't a sure thing.

[@DatruthsTrainer]

This aged incredibly well, congrats to your team on winning

[@stokes721]

He took me out with the trade for five eighth graders 😂😂😂

[@nekhi3547]

This man called Rudy Gobert a counterfeit bill. The disrespect is unreal.

[@angelsalinas1742]

It’s always a good day when jimmy posts

[@slivovitz1683]

Gobert trade working out

[@Optable]

4 quarters to a dollar is literally the stat of WAR in baseball. Which is why Mike Trout is theoretically worth 7 players a season to his 1

[@kaisworldofsports5430]

Did not age well😂 0:21

[@likith.nnaveen1769]

Now this comment didn't age well

[@ItalianStallionG]

This is one of the weirdest trade deadlines ever🤣

[@ezekielchristiannnn]

Nets won the trade

[@chandrapaulsingh6507]

In Brooklyn's defense, they didn't give very much to get KD and Kyrie (just DLo). It's the trade for Harden that kills them.

[@elbolsillo]

From a Phoenix fan, they gotta win NOW. I love Mikal and also Cam. But moves needed to be made. Pressure is on now. Hopefully everyone stays healthy. Edit: I would love to see the Suns go up against GS and Dallas in the playoffs. Epic.

[@jgray2718]

Yeah, I don't hate what Phoenix did. I think they're probably better right now and _maybe_ next year, but CP isn't going to last and you're really going to miss Bridges. KD can carry teams, though, and CP, Ayton, Booker, and KD sounds like a potential title. Good luck from a Laker fan looking for something fun to watch.

[@elbolsillo]

@@jgray2718 for sure. I guess That’s where they have to trust that James Jones will make the right moves in order to keep the ship afloat and sailing smooth.

[@tardwrangler1019]

Rudy gobert trade was good actually

[@antwerp_1024]

"Stuck in Brooklyn with Brick shot Ben" is CRAZY 😂😂

[@setapartprod]

4:42 you dont need fucking need kd or kyrie to win a championship, you need people who actually like each other and want to play defense to win one

[@cursedf7429]

Honestly sad that we let some guys go that had put in work more then the four 1st rounders, but am excited to see Durant play live

[@edber111]

Do you think with this happening, regardless of if they win or not, KD's legacy will be more tied into always being in a superteam? The okc one shouldn't count but after a few years, people might forget harden wasn't exactly the player he is now and a few years ago

[@spaceb6y]

Yes, even excluding Harden. How the nets history went down with 3 superstars has to be the worst way a team has fumbled. Imagine if Shaq and Kobe never won a chip together after playing for 3+ years

[@jgray2718]

I think you're right that being on superteams won't help his legacy, even if he's the most talented player on them. I feel like he might play in Phoenix for 2 years, realize CP is too old, they traded their best young players _(Cam Johnson and Mikal Bridges)_ and all their draft picks to get him, and demand another trade _(possibly to my Lakers to play with his buddy Lebron, which I think would be a disaster)._ I think the Nets end up more successful with no KD and teams realize that you can't just throw a bunch of talent together and figure it out on the fly. You really do need supporting players and a plan for how you're going to use everyone, not just a pile of talent.

[@AnalogWolf]

Historically, I think most superstar trades are not equal value. As a Wolves fan, look at the KG trade for example. High draft picks are probably the best thing you can get because if the other team had a player of similar quality, why would they trade for them?

[@apatheticnegro]

I feel like teams are more comfortable trading for picks because players are going through evolution young players are taller now and can score on every part of the court compared to waiting every 5 years for the next big thing

[@mariomann287]

Considering guys like Donavan, Booker, Tatum, Trae, Jaylen, Ja, etc all came in at around the same time, you might be right

[@LeBlackMamba24]

Who here after suns got eliminated?

[@dark-o]

All these shenanigans just make me appreciate MJ and the Bulls even more.

[@atToebiscuit]

And Kobe. Stayed on a 1 team for 20 years and bagged 5 rings.

[@benigogo]

Cuz Mj had the best management possible. They gave him everything he wanted and built great teams. The team reached the ECF without MJ

[@Shoot.orGetShot]

@@benigogothat’s what happens when your the 🐐

[@donniepistone6347]

@@atToebiscuitKobe wanted to be traded to chicago

[@alphadog3586]

@@benigogo no they didn't Jordan retired after the 93 Finals, the following season it was the Pacers vs Knicks in the 94 conference finals then it was the Magic vs Knicks in the 95 conference finals.

[@todorkolev7565]

to be honest, having just one star in your team is pretty miserable. You aren't going to get any higher, your star is going to be injured most of the season or just tired at the end of the season... And he's not going to be happy and the fans are going to hate that you are wasting his best years... Heck, he might even force the trade with some BS like eating too much or beating people up in the locker room :D In some ways, they haven't really lost any "result oriented" value at the Durant trade. That being said, they should have got more rebuilding assets out of it - but there isn't a "price list" on players... It's also about what the market has to offer, at that time.

[@adensmith8553]

When he said they got 5 8th grade, I was on the floor. I've never thought about picks this far out as 8th grader's LOL.

[@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaluigi]

you were on the floor? for that? life must be exhilarating for you if thats all it takes

[@adensmith8553]

@@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaluigi Oh I didn't know you were the joke police. I'll make sure to check in with you next time I find something funny and get your approval if I should laugh or not.

[@DR-ww7rx]

Did anyone really expect Durant to try to stand on his own without a stacked team?

[@marius3212]

I actually think, that teams are starting to see that forcing thin rosters around forced together suprstars doesnt really work. look at the nets or the Lakers. I think teams are opting back to the more traditional, current celtics or Bucks approach of slowly building a solid team and having your guys rise up to the challenge. I like the look of the new Nets, or cavs or jazz for example, they could become extremely fun. You cant really talk about Brooklyns „downfall“, shit didnt work, so they are trying another approach instead of digging deeper into the dirt lakers style.

[@KratosAurionPlays]

I feel like there's too much Mikal Bridges and Cam Johnson slander honestly. Those guys are going to be stars. I'd have rather kept them than sell the future for an aging Durant. We could have won the title with the core we had.

[@Pi_Jey_Tuquer]

We all know that Jimmy is going to bring us some crazy video about LeBron's record

[@iamjaegee]

i respect Brooklyn for not keeping Durant trapped in a losing team. He just wants to ball and not deal with all the bullshit. good for Durant

[@markglennyt9230]

The most absurd things is Jimmy refers Gobert as a counterfeit bill🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hahahaha i coudnt stop laughing until now

[@revan5293]

As a suns fan I am going to miss mikal

[@RayWall]

someone explain to me whats the difference between First ROUND and First FOUND pick? 4:24

[@ghostz2201]

Bru didn’t I watch this yesterday? 😂

[@itsdaboss9116]

I did too at like 12am last night, guess Jxmy forgot something

[@joshuamarcano350]

This makes the James Harden trade even more glaring

[@Silver19897]

The Nets have made an immense investment in their future. It would be great to see it all pan out, but the issue is that we have no idea how long it’ll take for them to become a contender again, and in that time we could see personnel changes that negatively impact the franchise as a whole. But if things pan out, this could go down as the day the Nets dug themselves out of the hole they crawled into a few years ago.

[@InfinitG]

Wishing the best for the Nets. As a rockets fan we know the hardship.

[@todhold2673]

Bro said "five eighth graders" 🤣🤣

[@HoosierResell]

This is the exact convo i had with my kid after the KD trade. He's too good and generational to just trade away. Doesn't matter how many 1sts you get lol.

[@almac9203]

I would agree except he is 34 years old. If he was 30 I would not trade him for anything but he is getting old and the roster probably wasn't going to deliver a championship. It was either pay Kyrie and go for it or blow it up. The decision was not easy.

[@HoosierResell]

@@almac9203 I feel that. Such a hard decision in the end. And with the way the whole 4 years had gone, I don’t blame the Nets for just moving on. But man…KD is KD 😆

[@NothingAgreedPod]

He is very old, and to get 5 first rounders (4 unprotected and 1 pick swap) is really good. We have no clue what those picks can be. Jimmy saying this is a bad trade can be a bad take. It all depends on two things. 1. Do the suns win a title with KD? 2. What do those picks become? It’s that simple IMO. I could be wrong though!

[@HoosierResell]

@@NothingAgreedPod no of course you are correct if the pics pan out then yes the nets look great but the odds of a pic panning out to be a player of the caliber of KD is so slim. We’ll just have to wait and see lol.

[@kyle7574]

@@NothingAgreedPod Fr the guy who made this video is a clown

[@BnaBreaker]

To be honest I'm not sure what more you think they should've gotten out of a KD rebuilding deal. I mean teams are going to be giving up Ja or Zion ... Bridges, Cam Johnson, 4 firsts and five seconds (after the Crowder flip to MIL) is a pretty decent haul in my book.

[@chriscreaturo8809]

As a fan of other NA sports, it blows my mind how some of these nba trades get brought to the table and approved by the league

[@ubmuscleful]

This is insane 😱 there is no lowity in the NBA anymore it's all about money and rings, I grew up in the 90s as a boy and teenager I remember when once you were on a team you stayed loyal to it most did back then now it is out of hand😩

[@zacho1333]

It’s how capitalism works

[@Karll541]

That’s everywhere. Small and big companies/businesses are the same way

[@andrewdulenchuk4942]

It feels like Nets are an example for other franchises of how not to buy into players too much and to rely on superstarts completely. They got Garnett, Pierce, ISO Joe back in the day, giving away their future, which resulted in a disaster. It felt like they learned from their mistakes, finally got on a right path with DLO, JA roster, but they wanted to basically all in again with unloading their budget to land 2 HOF players in their primes, then added Harden and you know how much downhill it went after that. I hope that will teach all NBA teams that NBA should not be a players league, or at least think 7 times before buying into superstars bs. KD, Kai and Harden just feel like a disgrace - they run away as soon as things are not smooth enough.

[@jackb8598]

That’s why i don’t like the NBA. They put their players way up on a pedestal way more than other leagues. So annoying and then you get all this celebrity annoyance. Why though? All because they are tall. Literally, find more players with skill and build a TEAM, this is a team SPORT.

[@zzthedon4k]

clearly not considering the suns are banking everything on their superstar lineup to win a ring this or next year, before kd and cp3 get too old

[@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaluigi]

@@jackb8598 How about follow a different team? not every team is run as poorly as the nets. Teams like the Nuggets, Grizzlies, Kings, Cavs, etc., are all succeeding because they play as a team. maybe if you werent so ignorant you might actually notice. and what was that "all because they are tall" bit? You a bitter 5'6" short king?

[@michaelfarrow5817]

@@jackb8598 It's five men on a court at any given time so one player being really good can elevate everybody or a really bad player can drag people down. I agree with you that it's too focused on individuals but something has gone very wrong in sporting culture - culture in general - in the United States over the last 30 years.

[@justinhall1606]

KD and Kyrie wanted out right at the trade deadline. Nets were put in one of the worst situations an NBA team can be put in and got a decent return. They now have cap space, picks, and numerous great role players to build around. If they can get a superstar through the draft or free agency they will be a great team without drama.

[@SilencedButNotForgotten]

Awesome video as always. The Gobert trade tho. Worst trade ever? 💀

[@oceanthresher6184]

Not even close to the James Worthy trade.

[@superstaranr]

Suns with the newest super team since the 2017 Warriors, and Kevin Durant was on BOTH of those teams!

[@Edwurrd_]

Nets in 2019 before KD and Kyrie joined had potential

[@jofieji5312]

They stayed at your house ate dinner clogged the toilet and left without saying goodbye.

[@spliffsforbreakfast]

The Nets blowing it up like that is definitely a basketball tragedy. But I’m happy the other teams improved drastically. Maybe this means Deandre Ayton turns into a defensive stud? The Suns definitely need it now.

[@_WeDontKnow_]

idk what else their choices were. if you think KD was winning a ring with that Nets squad after Kyrie left, think again lmao the competition was insane before the deadline happened. if Kyrie stayed and KD came back, they were contenders. we saw that. but KD aint winning a chip without a great second scoring option. might as well hit a rebuild now and let KD be free instead of having him request trades every few months and be unhappy on a team for multiple years. idk what Jxmy is saying with "they shoulda kept him with all their power" it would've gotten them nowhere

[@spliffsforbreakfast]

@@_WeDontKnow_ bro I’m not saying KD needed to try and win with whatever spare parts Brooklyn could put around him. I’m saying the fact that they never won, on top of going out the way they did, was a basketball tragedy.

[@jamesericpham4139]

🏀One side note I've always found comical is when players want a trade to a championship contender, their chances of winning act decrease bcos of what was given for them to get their... do u guys know what I mean?!!!

[@leodickes91]

Since the year 2000 I've seen many great players wear a Nets jersey, but still they couldn't put together a team like the one Kidd, Jefferson and Martin had in 2002/3.

[@MrBestvirginia]

6:00 What's a first found pick? And is "Patrick Bevlery" the knock-off version of THE Patrick Beverley?

[@simonjamesogaji7084]

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[@kenm4390]

While obviously the suns got a much better deal here that at first left me in shock and how Mikal Bridges was the best asset coming back in a KEVIN DURANT trade, I think some perspective is important. Plenty of organizations have lost players like Durant for practically nothing. Kareem to the lakers, Lebron leaving the Cavs both times, kawhi getting traded for derozan, etc. So while obv not ideal for Nets, not as bad by comparison