Thinking Basketball: How LeBron's longevity fueled his rise

[@joestack1222]

we as basketball fans need more of these breakdowns not hearing random youtubers talking basketball base of their emotion and bias

[@lankyhanky9772]

You know that this is a "random youtuber" right

[@MalikDiene]

@@lankyhanky9772I don’t think the official channel for the NBA would collaborate with “random KZbinrs”. Thinking basketball is legit.

[@Eschatonx]

@@lankyhanky9772 this guy isn't "random", you have to be vetted before you can just appear on the official NBA channel.

[@lunar3055]

Bro a lot of basketball KZbinrs actually have great takes. It’s the media people who act all emotional and have wild things to say

[@tonycrosby913]

Don’t want to hear Stephen A talk legacy all day either

[@isiahcampbell2790]

Thinking basketball on the nba channel is amazing.

[@neon0wl2107]

YES, please make thinking basketball the official analysis channel for NBA. Because all of the other channels are only gonna talk about trivial stuff and not actually break down the game.

[@nataniell6230]

smiling from ear to ear hearing thinking basketball on the main nba channel. he deserves this more than anything, been a fan for YEARS congrats Ben and amazing analysis as usual

[@narz7573]

The thinking basketball fans been seen this and are so happy thinking basketball getting this recognition

[@dylanbach8578]

The bad thing is that this level of recognition is always going to bring out haters. There are so many comments under his current videos talking about how he “must have never actually played basketball or that his stats are fake or he’s a hater nerd” despite the fact that he shows his film work to back up or explain the analytics. It honestly reeks of “anti-expert” dunning-Krueger syndrome: people who watch highlights think that their limited view of basketball is more valuable than an expert who puts as much of their biases away to study the game at its core.

[@TyroneNBAFan]

Yep, Thinking Basketball put this video out around the time LeBron broke the record. I'll go back even further. Thinking Basketball has a website called Back Picks that's been out for a long time. I checked out they're "Greatest NBA Careers" articles long before they had a KZbin channel. This guy and the contributors to that channel and website have always been next level.

[@LastTrueElk]

Want a cookie?

[@michaelspetsquirrel5372]

@@LastTrueElk take a look at this tough talking, pedophile talking bum lmfaoo..stay away from kindergartens bro..

[@thetek9]

@@dylanbach8578the more visibility that thoughtful, insightful analysis of sports gets, the better. That will result in less of the daily, banal “who’s the goat” conversations from people that have done no preparation. They just show up and ramble. Also, props Thinking Basketball. You deserve it.

[@1TheFunnyPro1]

Thinking basketball has the best basketball analysis on the planet, bro knows his shit

[@KwikDraw35]

Love these breakdowns….cant wait for the analysis of the upcoming season with all the new duos

[@humzaali1277]

ben taylor is a virgin.

[@williammoore27]

NCAA Final Four can include Fabulous Las Vegas!🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@rustudor5510]

Love this breakdown, but it seemed like it ignored lebron's second stint with the cavs completely. His post up fadeaway during those years was lethal

[@MiskeenPrince]

Right I was thinking the same thing. Most complete version of his game in my opinion.

[@JayzoTheNextKobeBryant2.0]

Same Here Dawg

[@poly_g6068]

I didn't notice until you pointed that out, wow.

[@kahlil2classy798]

Its a product of Miami years.

[@BurritoKingdom]

Thinking Basketball has a longer version. NBA shortens it.

[@wyattfriend7360]

Love the NBA for hiring Thinking for these

[@stevengao2428]

I love thinking basketball

[@kaustubhtandon8131]

Thinking basketball is not the hero we deserved but the hero needed. Nothing less than a GOAT......Shining.

[@SummerAwe99]

19 consecutive 25ppg seasons whilst averaging 8 assists is craaaaaazy

[@standardyeepz]

congrats on getting the call from the nba Thinking Basketball!

[@benrehbeck7431]

Thinking basketball on the nba channel?? Cant think of any creator more deserving, best basketball analysis on the platform

[@BOnYTB]

Shout out to Ben Taylor and Thinking bball. Always good to see him get these looks, and guys like Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux of Dunc’d On calling some LP games. Ben truly is one of the best basketball content creators out there, period.

[@patrickneal1061]

This video just shows me how much the nba has changed from how big man centric it was to the more pace and space it is now which allows for more scoring.

[@AzraErtas9523]

I've never rooted for him but it's especially unbelievable that he's survived the three point revolution to keep being one of the best (or perhaps the very best) in the league.

[@brendanbloom3366]

What’s unbelievable about it. He has more space than ever now. 7 guys averaged 30 last year

[@poly_g6068]

@@brendanbloom3366 It just makes it more shocking to think of what previous legends would average today, himself included. Obviously this is not a prime LeBron but man, we're looking at 35ppg minimum

[@AzraErtas9523]

@@brendanbloom3366 Really really appreciate your comment. "What’s unbelievable about it. He has more space than ever now. 7 guys averaged 30 last year" is probably one of the most insightful intelligent sagacious and profound ideas ever thought of in the history of humanity.

[@aimson]

Really pleased to see Thinking Basketball on NBA. Really smart move by them. Count me in!

[@cjrichards4359]

Glad to see thinking basketball is finally getting recognition 🙌

[@ahmadelkilany2169]

Really happy to see your videos on the official nba channel❤

[@joshnic6639]

I can’t believe this dude is making content for the NBA now. (I loved the Wilt Chamberlain documentary by the way.) However, you do realize how many people are gonna think they can do the same thing now, because the biggest problem the basketball is too many people think they understand it.

[@AfG_313]

Love lebron James seen his career from the start at Sacramento man he still great and playing blows my mind I’m a grown man now wow time flies, ima be bummed out wen he retire like I was when Reggie Miller left, I love NBA, grew to love & appreciate all hoopers no more favorites just like the game

[@messityler4121]

he got no gambling, guns, weird dramas, baby mama and side chicks issues.... he is all about basketball, health and family... if all players will do this, they probably be playing until their 50s

[@matthieusaade3616]

Also not playing full seasons, load management and PED's

[@messityler4121]

@@matthieusaade3616 79, 80, 79, 78, 75, 81, 76, 79, 62, 77, 76, 69, 76, 74, 82... dude played well, pretty much miss a fewer than less than 10 games for 15 straight fckn years.... do some research first, he plays when feels healthy.. missing 10 games to you is load management, how much every player who miss the 2 to 5 years to injury? call them LOAD MANAGEMENT as well?

[@ayomideayodele5378]

@@matthieusaade3616 brain dead, the old guy that can't reach the rim is using drugs

[@marxlagarto1185]

@@matthieusaade3616 Peds? got any evidence?

[@abdirahmanhassan1848]

@@matthieusaade3616 cry

[@poiszg23]

Crazy that the second Cleveland stint wasn't even mentioned at all and some would consider that to be one of his greatest years ever.

[@c9fan]

i love thinking basketballs content 10/10

[@samm552]

This was an Awesome breakdown. More of this plz👍🏿

[@Jetanium]

Thinking Basketball on the official page? Def more of this.

[@nbapbaupdate8338]

LeBron James INSANE LEGACY no doubt 🔥🔥🔥

[@VVVY777]

Never forget that LeBron, armed with an entire roster of prime All-Stars....got whooped by Carlos Arroyo, Manu Ginobili and Spanoulis. That's how much of a biatch LeBronze is.

[@Tylerburch8979]

Man he was 6’8 240 as a rookie and then 10 years later dwarfs that version of himself 😂

[@joykenn9772]

No

[@poly_g6068]

He's apparently the first person to ever get bigger past age 18

[@Tylerburch8979]

@@poly_g6068 no shit I was saying he was a big ass 18 year old and looked small compared to the older version

[@JubioHDX]

@@poly_g6068 giannis grew 2 inches after joining the league. he came in at 6'9 and even playing spotty point guard minutes, now he's 6'11, more like 7 ft with shoes

[@MIDJTube]

Yes, Thinking Basketball!!

[@OneHandMoneyMan]

Great to see the official NBA using Thinking Basketball, Ive been a fan for a while now, go check their actual channel, great stuff.

[@kylephilipng22]

This type of breakdown really shows how Bron is evolving

[@johnrhaywinsayo3609]

We will miss him when he retires.

[@滋榎本]

The 2010s was a golden age for the sports world. Basketball: LeBron James, Stephen Curry, Kevin Durant Soccer: Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar Tennis: Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer I get the impression that the next generation of stars in all sports is inferior.

[@brendanbloom3366]

Steph isn’t even the best pg of the 2010s

[@I-Six]

"LeBrOn HaS An EmPtY Bag"😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@VVVY777]

Never forget that LeBron, armed with an entire roster of prime All-Stars....got whooped by Carlos Arroyo, Manu Ginobili and Spanoulis. That's how much of a biatch LeBronze is.

[@jeyppifontanilla9038]

Thinking Basketball, you made it! I'm a fan of your channel!

[@jerichoj1540]

The Greatest Basketball Player in my opinion

[@matthieusaade3616]

Everyone has the right to be wrong

[@VVVY777]

Never forget that LeBron, armed with an entire roster of prime All-Stars....got whooped by Carlos Arroyo, Manu Ginobili and Spanoulis. That's how much of a biatch LeBronze is.

[@fbiopenup6534]

Massive W for Thinking Basketball

[@LilSaturn_]

Second stint in Cleveland Bron is the most complete version to me, lethal mid range fade away. Still hyper athletic with a three ball that was falling.

[@davidjames6036]

Lol best complete scoring version but miami Bron Is the best consistent 2 way player version.

[@LilSaturn_]

@@davidjames6036 I agree, snubbed of a DPOY in my opinion, Gasol won it but wasn’t on first team 😒

[@davidjames6036]

@@LilSaturn_ lol it was an obvious 2013 DPOY robbery against bron 😂😂......it would be a big controversial topic if it was anybody else involved but so many ppl hate bron so nobody cared to questioned it 😂 😂

[@LilSaturn_]

@@davidjames6036 exactly! They didn’t want him do anything close to what Jordan did, I bring that DPOY up anytime a Jordan fan talks about Bron’s defense.

[@Hibbs4Prez]

Facts.

[@rafaelaizpun7842]

more ben taylor please.

[@benedictreyes8270]

Thinking basketball is not bias

[@pookyman12]

Very much bias 😅

[@MrAlvarez23]

Who is this narrating the whole breakdown? Great stuff

[@Psquared2324]

Ben Taylor from the youtube channel Thinking Basketball - he has tons of content similar to this.

[@Anthonydu01630]

The best analyst in the world Ben Taylor from thinking basketball

[@Bru-uf2ni]

Bron had 56pts against GSW 21-22 season

[@belguzarkarabulut8952]

Very good

[@AaronDavy-yx2fj]

Lebron will always be the 🐐 🐐 🔥 🔥

[@میثمسلمانیان-ظ2ط]

Fact

[@brendagray9601]

​@KodakicyBOOM 💯👍🏼

[@MalcolmTEX]

@Kodakicynah he said it right in the first comment

[@davidx5242]

This is an amazing breakdown

[@pyrosdestiny]

Incredible content

[@IgonDrakeWarrior]

More Ben!

[@TheRealBruceLouis]

6:22 u see, foreshadow isnt only exclusive to fiction, thats foreshadowing in real life in action

[@finishfirst4580]

Funny they don’t talk about Lebrons second stint in Cleveland. That was hands down without a shadow of a doubt the absolute best version of Lebron James.

[@jantaramiyongsuntriyapas2570]

As an avid LeBron fan, Miami LeBron is hands down the better version of LBJ. I would put it this way; 1. Miami LeBron 2. Cavalier (2nd)LeBron 3. Cavalier (1st) LeBron 4. High School LeBron 5. Lakers LeBron

[@sportstalkonly1442]

​​Miami lebron was not better than Cleveland lebron. Number 1 2011 lebron in the finals, doesn’t happen to cleveland lebron. Number 2, 2018 lebron is the best player ever and far and away the best version of lebron. Number 3, lebron in those finals vs the warriors averaged a 33, 12 and 10 triple double, led both teams in points rebounds and assists while averaging 35 13 and 8, and then led both teams and all players in everything while coming back from a 3-1 deficit vs a team that broke the all time regular season win record.

[@Ghost-rb6cw]

​@@sportstalkonly1442 we know 2011 he played horrible but lebron prove the next year he was greater then 2011 lebron, but the point they were getting at is his peak, was 2nd stint Cleveland lebron better then Miami lebron? I don't think so.

[@seowth]

One of, if not the GC(areer)OAT!~ Such a fun career to behold! 👑

[@kasondekatepa6767]

Brett Kollman x NFL Thinking basketball x NBA The world is healing

[@MrAlvarez23]

I completely forgot how they were no space whatsoever. This was a great breakdown. Wow, you deft did your homework. We deft going yo miss him once he's gone. Let enjoy Greatness like man6 others, you will not see another Bron in our lifetime.

[@sebpalacio6310]

Congrats thinking basketball

[@lukaslambs5780]

Thinking Basketball is the goat, everyone go subscribe to him now!

[@markpeterchua]

"When you can drop a new york city aprtment here" lmao 2:09

[@vincebalsamo]

"Draw a NYC apartment here is an understatement"🤣🤣

[@williammoore27]

NCAA Final Four is having Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta for years & years!🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@joneltapalla8713]

LeBron James 👑🐐❤🇵🇭

[@VVVY777]

Never forget that LeBron, armed with an entire roster of prime All-Stars....got whooped by Carlos Arroyo, Manu Ginobili and Spanoulis. That's how much of a biatch LeBronze is.

[@croixR]

Better appreciate Him While He’s still Playing

[@matthieusaade3616]

He should've retire after his ring in LA .

[@pyotrbagration2438]

LeMedia does enough meatriding for him.

[@kouani1995]

@@pyotrbagration2438 not as much as you guys D ride MJ lol

[@pyotrbagration2438]

@@kouani1995 Anime pfp , opinion discarded.

[@pookyman12]

EPO MATTERS (+30 Year LA Lakers Fan)

[@jamesbarber9915]

Amazing video!

[@egdushie]

Greatest to ever play the game there is no debate

[@VVVY777]

Never forget that LeBron, armed with an entire roster of prime All-Stars....got whooped by Carlos Arroyo, Manu Ginobili and Spanoulis. That's how much of a biatch LeBronze is. MJ is a better offensive player. MJ is a better defensive player. MJ is a better winner. There literally is no debate. Except for clowns like yourself.

[@flavianojorge4543]

2013 is the best version of LeBron... He was at his peak, played offense/defense and super athletic. But strictly on offense alone, I would put 2018 version of himself over 2013 LeBron.

[@grandmasteryoda2550]

Dang years fly. Remember when he was a rookie like it was yesterday

[@GabrielXander]

Thinking Basketball Please do a video on Russell Westbrook similar to the one done on Iverson.

[@Nbasuperstars12]

The king

[@IrsyadiSensei]

love the fact,king born in our era..

[@errrjuny]

GOAT

[@anasshahid224]

LeBron James has had a legendary career, year 21 and still playing at a elite level, respect 🫡 👏👏👏👏👏

[@Goxilla]

tbh you have to consider him as one of the goats. Never ever has a player peaked that long and he pretty much owned the east for almost a decade. He beat 2 dynasties (Spurs/Warriors) and the amount of all time great talent has never been greater. Just to name a few guys he went up against: Steph, Dirk, KD, Giannis, Jokic, Kobe, Garnett, Duncan, ...

[@BlackPinkLoverBoy93]

Now i need one for my boi Wardell Stephen Curry II

[@prncrcz]

Alternative title: How Lebron's longevity fuels his haters.

[@AsherThompson-fp6li]

I proud of thinking basketball

[@acerugarmob]

People has to remember levton entered the league at the age of 17 His longevity cuz he was able to grow with the league

[@dimelo58]

New York City apartment line hits different when you live in one.

[@theeggreat4]

The tight spaces comparison is Zion and only Zion

[@Rodius]

NYC apartment is crazy 😂😂

[@FerrariCka216]

2018 best all around version 📱

[@rdn658]

Nice

[@Jc-ly6pe]

less spacing and less shot blocking bigs means more success for bron 🤔

[@sloughcloud7547]

Lebron still averaged 30 in an era with Duncan, KG, Yao, Ben Wallace....

[@everythinglakers1713]

@@sloughcloud7547 Kobe, TMAC, Dirk, etc. Too many legends in the Top 75 to count yet they wanna ignore all his individual success and act all black and white when it comes to takes about team success

[@Jc-ly6pe]

@@sloughcloud7547 🤷‍♂️04 the commissioner changed the rules to “allow for easier scoring especially from perimeter players” and “to allow the game to breathe”

[@jasonmoukala8909]

@@Jc-ly6pebad take

[@Ghost-rb6cw]

​@@Jc-ly6pe from since when it was easier to score in the 2000's?

[@mmark_1998]

He’s by far the goat He’s the only player to have 2 peaks from 2012-2014 and 2016-2018. His peak is as good as anyone’s ever, but his length of prime is too long to not be the goat.

[@7Bobby7]

Curry 2016 to 19,2021 to now...

[@brendanbloom3366]

Miami is his peak. Idk wtf you are talking about. No he’s not the GOAT. Top 10 perimeter player tho.

[@mmark_1998]

@@brendanbloom3366 idk wtf you’re talking about. Miami and Cleveland was his peak. Matter of fact, his best playoff years came in Cleveland and it’s not close. He’s also the best player ever easily.

[@brendanbloom3366]

@@mmark_1998 wrong. 2013 was his peak and it’s not even close. He was still in his prime in Cleveland but his peak was 2013. He’s a top 10 perimeter player. Not the best player.

[@acs79]

Ya struggling! LeBum won 3 peat x2🫣 81% playoff win Never scoring less than 15 in playoffs/finals Never lose 2 consecutive games for 8 seasons The list goes on.

[@tennismaroc]

@3:48 « he was so gifted » … clearly pivot foot shuffle TRAVEL

[@ChibiMalzahar]

PLEEEASSEEE KEEP LETTING HIM UPLOAD HERE

[@marcantoine7733]

Unbelievable

[@-Mr.Admin_01]

We need Jimmy Highroller in these

[@LargeDude2023]

Another Lebron marketing piece. He has you folks and Trump has Fox News. We get it

[@Mattieb_23]

Yall should go listen to his highest peaks series omggg

[@tyleredwards970]

I hate that they say lebron is all longevity. He was the fastest to all these different marks I remember they said that when he was the fastest to get 30000. Like how 😂 if you’re the FASTEST to reach a goal it didn’t take you the longest smdh

[@michaelduque474]

To really understand... Stop! He's with Wade

[@Knee_Haw]

????????

[@nielmir2452]

It's simple, your main investment in basketball is your health. Lebron spent millions of dollars to maintain his body on the highest level to compete, if only all players have the same drive and attitude that lebron does then they would not suffer career ending injuries.

[@moneymoney3235]

Yeah it’s simple he has the most discipline that the nba has seen 🤷🏾‍♂️ other guys rather gamble, golf, and be with side hoes 🤷🏾‍♂️ Bron is about family and basketball like no other.

[@moneymoney3235]

Bron playing a much more physical sport than Messi and Messi isn’t in the best leauge in his sport while Bron is…..there’s levels to this

[@rephayeel2021]

Eyyy thinking basketball wassup

[@skjor1989]

Imagine if Lebron was on hid 19 to early 20's today. His career growth will be much better.

[@matthieusaade3616]

It's a shooting league now. LeBron at 19 was a worst shooter than he is now .

[@Ohandori]

@@matthieusaade3616 what truly matters is how much spacing there is tho. Look at guys like giannis, or even embiid who took a step back 3 point wise this season yet still won the scoring title and mvp

[@rinowatson]

@@matthieusaade3616he would free access to the paint though

[@tntcrewEJ]

There is a guy who spends his entire time on KZbin making videos about how Lebron has never changed his game. Should I send this to him?

[@dylanbach8578]

Do it and link it here

[@tntcrewEJ]

kzbin.infoW4NtJzul1Xs?si=BGR2Yd00bg_LeQB2

[@jonjones8827]

That guy is delusional if he thinks Lebron has never changed his game. Because if that was the case, he wouldn't be as great as he still is now

[@raymondfelix3585]

don't know if that record will still be achieved and surpassed...

[@anthonycal9071]

🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐 greatest of all time

[@CarloshamiltonCarlos-mp1mg]

love LeBron James seen his career 🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀

[@tonytooshort]

Baseball could never 🥴😩

[@vicepresidentmikepence889]

Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen 84-85 38-44..First round exit 85-86. 30-52..First round exit 86-87. 40-42...First round exit 01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs 02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate Rick Barry (1975) Bill Walton (1977) Hakeem Olajuwon (1994) Tim Duncan (2005) (2007) Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010) Steph Curry (2015) (2022) LeBron james (2016) Kawhi Leonard (2019) Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021) As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO LeBron james has won 10 conference championships Michael Jordan won 6......Only Bill Russell and Sam Jones have more conference championships (In a mostly nine team league) than LeBron James In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were 83-84 bulls 27-55 84-85 bulls. 38-44 92-93 bulls 57-25 93-94 bulls 55-27 98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen 00-01 wizards 19-63 01-02 wizards. 37-45 02-03 wizards 37-45 03-04 wizards 25-57 02-03 cavaliers 17-65 03-04 cavaliers 35-47 09-10 cavaliers 61-21 10-11 cavaliers 19-63 09-10 heat. 47-35 10-11 heat 58-24 14-15 heat 37-45 2013-14 cavaliers 33-49 2014-15 cavaliers 53-29 2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32 2018-19 cavaliers 19-63 2017-18 lakers. 35-47 2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day. As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank. Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!! I have added a Postscript So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER Making the playoffs in 1985. Perfect example is the 1985 86 bulls went 30-52 and made the playoffs and the 2004 05 cavaliers went 42-40 and did not make the playoffs. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school

[@youtubewatcher8565]

That's fast.

[@Hurdlegang3]

I’m a LeBron stan too, but Jordan had literally nothing to do with this video…

[@johnnymyers20]

Yep, he's one of the greatest to ever do it but not the greatest. Salute to Bron tho 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@hardywoodaway9912]

funny you left out 2011, where a top75 player won over leChokes Superteam without any top75 player on his team. also 2016 LeBron had Kyrie Irving on his team…

[@sideactivist]

crazy how you made this about the goat debate. please shut the fuck up

[@kyleharris4395]

nba doing tricks on it bruh

[@DragonWarrior1524]

LeGlazing to the highest extent, but very good vid none the less