NBF 16: Can We Learn From The Books Of Ibn Taymiyyah?| Sh. Shadee El Masry

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@hxyzazolchak 7 ай бұрын

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@aaquib2010 4 ай бұрын

so ibn taymiyyah is wrong because he went deep into asma wal sifat, but razi and ghazali are great because they went deep into asma wal sifat!!

@GodIsIndeedgreat 2 ай бұрын

They just wanna make look the shaikh look bad, ignore these innovators and don't take from him.

@immortalpickle3104 Ай бұрын

What a good significant difference is really is that Ibn Taymiyyah rahimullah was well versed in hadith

@Nomansyt-22 27 күн бұрын

Pondering in the asna wal sifat in Allaah in wrong direction mislead Ibn Taymiyyah.

@aaquib2010 27 күн бұрын

@@Nomansyt-22 you are really a jaahil. You know who went deep into asma wal sifat??!! it was the mutazila and asharis and maturidis followed them. 🤣🤣 this is basic knowledge. The atharis always avoided it and called ilm ul kalam a bidah. Get education bro

@aaquib2010 23 күн бұрын

@@Nomansyt-22 and who was in the right direction? al maturidi and mutazila?😂

@DarkPacmanC 9 ай бұрын

The Companions' aqeedah is preserved & recorded & available to be followed in our time. The "questions" that "weren't answered" by them were answered *by their students* , using *their* preserved aqeedah. Ash'ari aqeedah didn't exist until after Imaam Ahmed's death, so what would a "Maliki" say Imaam Malik's aqeedah was? It was the preserved aqeedah of the Companions, no other. So why is a "Maliki" today following "Ash'ari" aqeedah? Because Ahl al-Kalaam, whom the Salaf condemned, are not exempt from following a fiqh school. However, they're still innovating *with* their Kalaam, so being "Maliki" has no bearing on correct aqeedah, whether they "answer" questions that came later or not. Ahl al-Hadeeth (including Ibn Taymiyyah, if you actually read his books) believe that the Quraan & the Sunnah *as is* , preserved & agreed upon, answers any & all questions about Allaah/aqeedah *ever* until the end of time *without* the need for Kalaam because Allaah told us the deen is complete in Surah 5 Verse 3. Ahl al-Hadeeth believes a "complete religion" doesn't need a new approach or school of thought to answer aqeedah questions after the death of the Prophet. What do Ash'aris believe "complete" means...

@aTeeBaLiKhaN_ 9 ай бұрын

No, Wobler

@DarkPacmanC 9 ай бұрын

@user-dg4dz3ot1s I don't know why you mentioned "the Hanaabilah". I know that when Ash'aris mention "Hanaabilah" they're playing a word game to make it seem like "tafweedh" is from the Salaf, & their "proof" is "Hanaabilah" who did tafweedh. However, we *know* the Salaf did ithbaat bilaa kayf, but Ash'aris hide this from their students. So, when Salafis read the books of the Salaf & can prove that the Salaf did ithbaat bilaa kayf, Ash'aris are taught that we're lying/ignorant b/c "my shaykh said it's either tafweedh or ta'weel" & then they never read what the Salafis read so they never learn what the Salafis actually base our beliefs on. But I don't want to waste time on what Shadee thinks "Hanaabilah" did, b/c 1, they're not Imaam Ahmed, & Imaam Ahmed did ithbaat bilaa kayf in his book "Usul as-Sunnah", & 2, the Salaf *before Ahmed* (like Malik) were *not Ash'aris* & did neither tafweedh nor ta'weel. And *before* Malik, the Sahaabah never did those things, either, which is a *proof* that they affirmed the meaning of these sifaat bilaa kayf.

@onnixchaney8797 9 ай бұрын

You guys are on about nothing Imam Ibn Jarir al-Tabari has reported that Ibn Abbas said, “tafsir is of four kinds: One which Arabs can know from the language; second which no one can be excused for not knowing; third which only the scholars know; and fourth, which God alone knows.” Only Allah Knows the True Ta'wil (Interpretation) of the Mutashabihat Allah said, وَمَا يَعْلَمُ تَأْوِيلَهُ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ (But none knows its Ta'wil except Allah.) Similarly, as preceded in what has been reported from Ibn `Abbas, "Tafsir is of four types: Tafsir that the Arabs know in their language; Tafsir that no one is excused of being ignorant of; Tafsir that the scholars know; and Tafsir that only Allah knows." Scholars of Qur'an recitation have different opinions about pausing at Allah's Name in this Ayah. This stop was reported from `A'ishah, `Urwah, Abu Ash-Sha`tha' and Abu Nahik. Some pause after reciting, وَالرَسِخُونَ فِي الْعِلْمِ (And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge) saying that the Qur'an does not address the people with what they cannot understand. Ibn Abi Najih said that Mujahid said that Ibn `Abbas said, "I am among those who are firmly grounded in its Ta'wil interpretation." The Messenger of Allah ﷺ supplicated for the benefit of Ibn Abbas -ibn kathir tafsir surah 3 ayat 7 Thus whole conversation is stupid and ignorant kindly you all need to go and occupy yourself with something beneficial because this is not beneficial to anyone and only causes division if you think the meaning of Allah saying his hand,face,shin etc is literally that’s on you don’t force this on anyone teach it to your children and Khalas it’s finished

@onnixchaney8797 9 ай бұрын

@@DarkPacmanCyour ignorance is evident “Ibn Abi Najih said that Mujahid said that Ibn `Abbas said, "I am among those who are firmly grounded in its Ta'wil interpretation." The Messenger of Allah ﷺ supplicated for the benefit of Ibn `Abbas,” The great ibn kathir whose tafsir is lamented as the criterion of all tafsir go occupy yourself with Ibadah, sadaqah, and ilm this matter will not be solved in the comments of KZbin videos when there is ihktilaf and has been

@DarkPacmanC 9 ай бұрын

@onnixchaney8797 you understand that Ibn Abbas's ta'weel based upon actual proof of the text vs. the "ta'weel" of the Ash'aris that opposes the text & has no basis in the Salaf is completely non-similar, right? When I denied ta'weel in my original comment, I was obviously referring to the deviant ta'weel that most people today understand from the Ash'aris. If you want to use the word "ta'weel" the way Allaah & the Salaf actually used it (i.e. before al-Ash'ari was born) then you're admitting that ta'weel = true reality/true outcome. يوم يأتي تأويله & هذا تأويل رؤياي من قبل are 2 clear-cut instances where the word "ta'weel" = the undeniable outcome in its true reality. This is *not* even *close* to what the Ash'aris mean by "ta'weel" when they say "يد/hand" is "قدرة/power", b/c 1, this is against the context of where "hand" is mentioned, 2, this is against the apparent meaning that the Companions *never made ta'weel of or asked about* , & 3, the Salaf/Salafis always denied kayfiyyah/howness, & the ta'weel of the howness is absolutely forbidden on all sides. *This* is the ta'weel that only Allaah knows: the true howness & true reality of the sifaat. But the sifaat are still *real* . However, this is all a waste of time, b/c anybody today who says "hand" = "power" has to prove it, b/c saying *anything* about Allaah without authority/proof is next to the level of shirk: وأن تشركوا بالله ما لم ينزل به سلطانا وأن تقولوا على الله ما لا تعلمون. How do any of these people have the audacity to stand in front of Allaah with a lie about Him on their tongue? Prove that when Allaah & His Messenger said "hand" they *meant power* . You can't. Ever. B/c it's a lie.

@halalshayaan 6 ай бұрын

i wanna read a jawab as sahih

@AufAbdulRahman-i8y 3 ай бұрын

Read it, wallahi ibn tamyiyya is better than any ashari scholar

@NurSa3id 9 ай бұрын

Thinking that blindly following ibn Taymiyyah is the way of the Salafs is one of the greatest modern day traps of shaytaan. He himself was not among those of the first three generations, whereas the four imams of the four madhahib all were Salafs who were from the first three generations we ought to follow according to the Sunnah. Yet, preferring ibn Taymiyyah above those four imams while calling yourself "Follower of the Salaf" is nothing but fooling yourself and the jahil people around you.

@MM-mc8hs 8 ай бұрын

Is the reason Ibn Taymiyya was not from the ways of the salaf, because he rejected celebrating Mawlid?

@NurSa3id 8 ай бұрын

@@MM-mc8hs Ya akhi, how childish is your respons? Please don't respond if you cannot even understand what I wrote... I gave the answer already.

@MM-mc8hs 8 ай бұрын

@@NurSa3id You made a claim and I asked a question. You refuse to answer question and then label the question as “childish”. Please answer the question if you are truthful

@NurSa3id 8 ай бұрын

@@MM-mc8hs Our prophet s.a.w taught us to follow the Salafu Saleheen: the first three generations, meaning the Sahaba, the Tabi'een and the Taba'i'tabi'een. The four imams of the four madhahib all were from that generation, meaning they are Salafs the Ummah should follow. Ibn Taymiyyah came after that generation. Now, today's so-called Salafs, don't follow the four imams but they do follow ibn Taymiyyah, because he claims that he follows the Qur'an and the Sunnah... As if other scholars followed something else. Yet, our prophet said, "Follow the first three generations", those are the Salafs. Ibn Taymiyyah is not a Salaf. This is pure fact, what does Mawlid have to do with this?

@MM-mc8hs 8 ай бұрын

@@NurSa3id Celebrating Mawlid has everything to do with this The Sahaba رضي الله عنهم did not celebrate Mawlid. Ibn Taymiyyah did not celebrate Mawlid. However, the people of misguidance today celebrate Mawlid. So who is truly following the Sahaba رضي الله عنهم?

@Hanbali164AH 8 ай бұрын

Please don't talk about the Hanbali madhab, please! *Literally embarrising yourself.

@hxyzazolchak 4 ай бұрын

He only repeated what scholars from the hanabilah themselves said.

@Jibril491 4 ай бұрын

@@hxyzazolchakwhat scholars?

@saltymangoparty 4 ай бұрын

Sheikh Yusuf Ibnd Sadiq. He cited him.

@Hanbali164AH 4 ай бұрын

@@saltymangoparty that man is a joke

@immortalpickle3104 Ай бұрын

@@Hanbali164AH Shaykh Hatem al Haj

@ahmadrezacabugatan6135 9 ай бұрын

You really have missed a lot for not reading any of the books of Shaykh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, and you based your opinion of him from the opinions of the Muqallidun Blind Followers.

@enkryptron 9 ай бұрын

did you even bother to listen? he said when it comes to aqidah- then even the hanbalis said stay away from ibn taymiyyah.

@aadil_0023 8 ай бұрын

@@enkryptronjust a flat out lie, ibn al mibrad al hanbali himself said ibn taymiyyah represented the aqeedah of the early hanabilah/salaf

@enkryptron 8 ай бұрын

@@aadil_0023 did you even listen to the talk?. The majority of the ahlus sunnah ulama' today are opposed to ibn taymiyyah aqeedah. giving one scholar opinion doesnt prove your point against the jumhur.

@syedasadullah7462 8 ай бұрын

@@enkryptron One of them was ibn e rajab Al Hambali r.a

@ahmadhasan8355 7 ай бұрын

@@aadil_0023 it's the total truth. and why wouldn't he? He's only the Shaykhul Islam's students. He's bound to be either favouring his Shaykh or following his Shaykh in error.

@you7tube7Abukhaled 2 ай бұрын

Ibn Taymiyyah did not bring anything new; rather, he revived what the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his companions practiced, especially after the spread of Islam. In essence, it is Islam as understood by the righteous predecessors, without innovations or superstitions.

@defeatedpoet6377 Ай бұрын

The followers of Ahl-e-Hadith claim to adhere to the Qur'an and Sunnah, but in practice, they follow Ibn Taymiyyah and Albani. Although they claim not to follow any particular madhhab, they have essentially created a madhhab combining the views of Albani and Ibn Taymiyyah.

@you7tube7Abukhaled Ай бұрын

@defeatedpoet6377 What you are saying is not true. They follow only those who are following Quran and sunnah.

@defeatedpoet6377 Ай бұрын

@@you7tube7Abukhaled Quran and Sunnah is a safe signboard that everyone uses. So, there is no basis for your words.

@hussinabdulrahman6869 6 ай бұрын

wahabi salafi is a political movement and faction of shiea rafidhi origins from the basement of babylonia and together with the ttt takfiri transgenders ideology religion which is taught in all the schools and colleges in U s Canada Europe and Australia

@aaquib2010 4 ай бұрын

haha a sufi says that salafi are of shia origin... irony died here

@defeatedpoet6377 Ай бұрын

@@aaquib2010The followers of Ahl-e-Hadith claim to adhere to the Qur'an and Sunnah, but in practice, they follow Ibn Taymiyyah and Albani. Although they claim not to follow any particular madhhab, they have essentially created a madhhab combining the views of Albani and Ibn Taymiyyah.

@aaquib2010 Ай бұрын

@@defeatedpoet6377 Of course we follow someone in madhab but not blindly, we see the dalil of everyone, be it albani or ibn taymihyyah or ahmadibn hanbal or abu hanifa r.h. only one to be followed without dalil is muhammad s.a.w.

@immortalpickle3104 23 күн бұрын

Lol you should look how Twelver Shi'ism spread in Iran and in modern day Pakistan, it was through Sufis. The Safavids Sufis generation by generation became more Rafidhi until Ismail dug up the graves of Abu Hanifa and Abdul Qadir al Jilani (who was Athari as well)