NBF 250: Who Are The Salafis And How Are They Different From Other Muslims?

[@TheArizePodcast]

As a former salafi, I do agree with this statement. Many here don't understand what a madhhab is. A madhhab is a set of principles that help you derive rulings. There are madhhabs both in aqeedah and madhhabs in fiqh. The salafi methodology of taking directly form the text of the Quran and hadith is not found in the other madhhabs which rely on following an authority with a chain of transmission. This is what I see to be the primary difference. As such, I find many salafis make derivations from hadith and Quran without understanding their proper context or categorization in light of the rest of the Islamic texts. There is also a difference in how they view hadith where they often outright reject a weak hadith or even non-sahih hadith at times. An example of this is the 15th of shaban. There are at least 3 weak hadith on the subject, yet most salafis call it biddah to do special acts of worship on the 15th. The classical scholars did not oppose the use of weak hadith for personal practice if they do not oppose what is known through the rest of the tradition even though they did not take definitive rulings(fard/haram) from them. Even if they disagreed, no scholar of ahlus sunnah would dare to call an act found in weak hadith a biddah, as it has basis in the tradition and out of fear of opposing the Prophet(saw). Imam Ahmed(ra) famously included weak hadith in his usool because he felt a weak hadith had a stronger chance of being from the Prophet(saw) than his own Qiyas or opinion. This is a clear departure from what modern salafis do in this regards. Overall, the main thing that salfis fail to understand is the difference between amal and usool. The Prophet(saw) did certain things in his actions, and also allowed certain things in principle that are not limited by his action. The famous battle of the trench was followed by a command: "Do not pray asr until you reach banu qurayda". Some sahaba got the message late and differed on the correct meaning. Some said it means be quick but not that we should miss the time ie. usool. Others said its literal, even if we miss the time ie. amal. Both opinions were confirmed by the Prophet(saw). Salafis seem to reject the usooli approach outright, while the sahaba were known to take it. The compilation of the Quran, unification of taraweeh with 20 rakah(36 in madinah) and khatam, the second adhan of juma, and many other examples attest to the sahabah doing actions not found in the life of the Prophet pbuh, but rather based on the principles he left for us to follow. Those who say Imam Shafai, Imam Abu Hanifah, Imam Malik, or Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal contradict the prophet, or were ignorant of the hadith, or opposed the hadith, etc. should look in the mirror and understand that it is more likely that these 4 imams being 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th generation in this ummah, with hundreds of thousands of hadith in their belt(Imam Bukhari(ra) was a student of Imam Ahmed for context) and the 95% of the ummah who chose to follow them afterwards with chains going to the Prophet(saw) were far more likely to have a better understanding of what was meant by these hadith than us and those people who claim scholarship without any connected chains to the Prophet pbuh. There is nothing wrong with saying "I follow Quran and Sunnah" except for the word "I". Our own ignorance is often hidden from us by the veil of our own arrogance to think that we can read a few articles online and supersede the understanding of the pious scholars like Imam Malik(ra) who was authorized directly by over 70 madani scholars from the taba tabi3een. Allah knows best and may he guide us all.

[@yusuf6853]

Brilliantly put brother

[@wajahatkhan]

Love your channel. Keep up the great work

[@Hanafistudentofknowledge5776]

Which debate he is referring to?

[@Azamkhan-yv5th]

Very well explained...

[@ibnAmat]

What’s the difference between Athari being good and normal but Salafis not? They do the same thing?

[@hxyzazolchak]

A true athari rejects the literal interpretation of verses that might seem to create a literal meaning ( which would be a bodily meaning) to an attribute of Allah like yad or wajh while suspending the attribution of a specific meaning and only recites the verse as it was revealed while the salafi gives a literal interpretation to terms like this yet some of them will still go on to say that it is unlike anything thing in creation which is really a cope out.

[@ibnAmat]

@@hxyzazolchak The Athari and the Salafi agree that the meanings of the words are clear yet we can’t make تأويل of verses that are unclear. To my knowledge the Athari and Hanbaliya have the same Aqeedah as the “salafis” Yet, If I may, how do the Ashari point away from these meanings? Where is there proof that these attributes are figurative? Did the Arabs use these terms in figurative ways? I’ve never seen someone explain with proofs from the time of the Prophet that would show these are metaphorical instead of literal. BarakAllahufeek

[@hxyzazolchak]

@@ibnAmat kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoq7m6p4lN2Sa7s&si=EXMeu3Y65nHdV3AT watch this video. It gives many evidences of the salaf doing ta’wil.

[@thrilled2bits]

Madhabs have a well established, long-standing framework, whereas Salafism, well, it blows with wind!

[@YungShoe]

Is Jonathan Browns allowing of disrespecting Islam also 5th madhab? Or is your ‘friend’ excuses 😅

[@AbuJafarAlBilalabadi]

lol

[@AbuJafarAlBilalabadi]

Good point

[@MotorWorld-v8y]

Akhi the salafi dawah teach the books of imam Ahmed and they are in line with the aqida of imam Ahmed please don’t miss quote

[@zinoubensalah8939]

don't they quote ibn taymiyah the most? he's the ultimate authority and they ignore what they don't like.

[@Abdurrahman.khatri]

Alhumdulillah we salafis have only one Aqidah and no one defers in Aqidah. And our Imam is Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم .

[@tazboy1934]

Wats your sanad of aqeedah?

[@Spark12429]

​@@tazboy1934 Qur'an and the Hadith and the salaaf...

[@BeardedGuy_Tawhid]

@@ayyubvernon What opposes the Quran and Sunnah is wrong... this is how deviancy is exposed. You can squirm around it all you like.. but bent Aqeeda is exposed by its disobedience of what has been revealed and the following of desires with bidah.

[@AhmedA-jh8rl]

Guys this man tries to make salafis look like the late comers. This is either a blatant lie from him or pure ignorance. Even ChatGPT knows better that him. Looks just ask ChatGPT.. “ Which one is the oldest aqeedah athari ashari or maturidi” And then see the answer It’s demented to call an aqeedah a 5th madhab is foolish.

[@AhmedA-jh8rl]

Even add salafi in the question

[@NurSa3id]

They are modern day Khariji's who claim to follow the Salafu Salihin, yet not follow the 4 madhabs of Ahl-i Sunnah, whose imams were all among the Salafu Salihin. Instead, they follow ibn Taymiyyah, who was not a among the true Salaf (first three generations), the big khariji Mohammad ibn Abi Wahhab (a dog of the Brits who was a racist Arab, fighting against Muslims with the help of England), and Syeikh Albani (who wrote 2 books in which he calls some Hadith sahih while in the other book calls the same Hadith weak and vice versa). According to their own logic, we should follow the Qur'an and Sunnah, hence not follow a madhab, yet they fail to understand that according to this understanding, they should not follow ibn Taymiyah, ibn Abi Wahhab or Albani either... Just very ignorant, arrogant know-it-all jahil khariji's of today...extremely tiring disgraces who fell off the path of the guided Ummah... May ALLAH soften their hearts to the truth and save them from their arrogant ignorance.

[@BeardedGuy_Tawhid]

you must have said this looking into a mirror

[@NurSa3id]

@@BeardedGuy_Tawhid I see other flaws when I look in the mirror. I am not too cowardice to view myself truthfully. But Alhamudillah, I am not and never will be a Khariji/Wahabi... Because I am fasting, I will refrain myself from insulting you.

[@BeardedGuy_Tawhid]

@@NurSa3id Examine your Aqeeda.. the rest we all have nafs and faults in nobody perfect.. we all sin and we all repent if we did not sin Allah would replace us with those that did.. but the Aqeeda and Tawhid.. these are the unforgivable mistakes if you die in that state and have any link to shirk generally speaking, (not aimed at you specifically) and deviance and bidah is also a severe topic. May Allah show you the truth of the matter. Lastly the fact that you link Ahl Sunnah to khawarjite, those huroojite and takhfiris speaks volumes ..

[@NurSa3id]

@@BeardedGuy_Tawhid Astaghfirullah, I consider myself from ahl-i Sunnah, how can I see them as Khariji? I see followers of ibn AbdulWahhab as modern day Kharijis. Ibn Taymiyyah and Sheikh Albani are just overrated "ulama" who they use for their agenda. Ahl-i Sunnah has much greater scholars, but many Muslim countries in which Wahabism reigns, are unaware or have forgotten these ulama. My Allah forgive and guide us all, and bless our beloved month of Ramadhan.

[@BeardedGuy_Tawhid]

@@NurSa3id you are misguided on this point, severely

[@MotorWorld-v8y]

The salafi school follows imam Ahmed in aqida and the likes of Bukhari safian at thowri the raaziz Listen to them you’ll see who they follow in aqida they refer back to the salaf

[@AbuFadl]

How do you say it is a fifth madhab when its primarily about aqeedah? Even the Ashaa'irah dont follow the aqeedah of Imam Abu Hanifah, Malik, Shaafi'ee.... they follow the aqeedah of people who came centuries later. So if Salafiyyah is a 5th madhab, then Ashaariah and Maaturidiyyah are 6th and 7th madhabs.

[@hxyzazolchak]

The ashaira and maturidis do follow all 4 imams both in aqeedah and fiqh.

[@The-servant-of-ALLAH1]

@@hxyzazolchakthats a lie or ignorance. Did you not know that abu haneefa said those who say i dont know if ALLAH is above the throne is a kafir? Bcz they reject the clear ayah that ALLAH is above the throne?

[@hxyzazolchak]

@The-servant-of-ALLAH1 You heard an ashari scholar or layman ever say Allah is not above his throne? Allah is above his throne in the sense of status. Allah is not in any location like abu Jafar al sadiq said, " He who claims that Alah is in anything or on anything or from anything commits shirk (type of blasphemy). Because, had He been on anything, He would have been carried, had He been in anything, He would have been contained, and had He been from anything, He would have been a creation". Narrated by Imam al-Qushayriyy in his book ar-Risalah al-Qushayriyyah'. In his book 'A-Insaf fima yajibu^-tiqaduhu wa la yajuzul-jahlu bihi (the just ruling regarding what one is obligated to believe in and cannot be ignorant of) Al-Qadi (Judge) Abu Bakr al Baqillaniyy, a renowned Malikiyy scholar (died 403 AH) said: We do not state that the Grand ^Arsh (Throne) is a residence or a location for Allah, due to the fact that Allah, the Exalted, is eternally existent and place is not, hence when place was brought into existence by His Creating He did not change".

[@The-servant-of-ALLAH1]

@@hxyzazolchak look at how miskeen you and your people are. Firstly, this imam you quoted wasnt even born when abu jafar died, and secondly isnt abu jafar a shi’i? So you wanna use a shi’i? Thirdly, look at how you qoute abu bakr al baqilani, and all other scholars who were not even from the time of the four imams not from the salaf. Now look at this: First is ALLAH’s own words, that He is in highness like in surah mulk, like in fatir and others, where He mentions the deeds going up to Him and angels. Second the prophet peace be upon him, who pointed upwards in the farewell pilgrimage, and he peace be upon him said ALLAH is above seven heavens to sa’ad ibn muadh radiya ALLAHu a’nhu. Thirdly, Aisha and Zainab may ALLAH be pleased woth them mentioned that ALLAH is above seven heavens, which you guys dont accept. Fourthly, abu hanifa making takfir of those who make nafi of uluu dhatee. Alhamdulilah for this manhaj, all from the source it self, as for you and your likes, you choose aqeedah of those who didnt even see the prophet peace be upon him, nor were they from the three generations. May ALLAH guide you. Just look at the name of yoir aqeedah, based on a man. Ours is based on Athar and the salaf, and the imam of the salaf is the prophet peace be upon him.

[@hxyzazolchak]

@The-servant-of-ALLAH1 your first mistake was to think abu Jafar al sadiq, One of the teachers of Imam Malik was a shia. In any case, al salamu alaykum

[@Mbaa12]

A load of nonsens. Read what they read before commenting on salafis and their aqeedah. The so called authorities of salafis you quoted I've never even heard of them. Salafis follow the Quran and sunnah. Don't make things complicated. If imam shafi'i's position is stronger on a certain matter than imam ahmad we'll follow shafi'i on that matter. Plain and simple.

[@hxyzazolchak]

And you determine what’s stronger?

[@first9_yt]

​@@hxyzazolchak"Ackee, where is the daleel ackee"

[@SabeloNtuli-tr3mp]

I thought id give this guy a listen until i heard this nonsense

[@Ibrahim.l20]

calling salafiyyah a 5th madhab is the pinnacle of ignorance.

[@twoplus7647]

Yeah American imams are like that. Living in the dar ul kufr has a negative effect on them.

[@nasreldeenmohamed3703]

Yes, it's like a 'Manhaj'.

[@ahmedahmud5281]

Well, salafiyah have their own methodology/madhab even tho they themselves disagree on what their methodology is, since they all call to Qur'an and Sunnah, but yet their disagreements are all over the place, including hate between eachother... We can taste some of it through your comments to be honest... Salafism represents pinnacle of arrogance and ignorance in the same time. :)

[@Ibrahim.l20]

@@ahmedahmud5281 you have no understanding of salafiyyah. It is true that some scholars of salafiyyah chose not to follow madhahib which is not a problem. Allah didn't tell us to follow madhahib he told us to ask scholars. As long as the salafis are humans there will be differing. Salafism as a concept can only be rejected by a kaffir so why not test who's creed agrees with theirs and who's creed opposes theirs.

[@ssjaak538]

@ibrahim.l20 Lol. You define it then? Im waiting a jaheel

[@DoItNowTimeFlies]

It's not a madh-hab, far from being a 5th, and is a mash-up version of the hambali school

[@twoplus7647]

Our imam is Prophet Muhammad PBUH. We don't need to follow another one.

[@ampagetech2624]

He is the Imam of all muslims - not only the kharijites and the neo kharijiyes called salafis and wahhabis

[@mikhan5191]

@twoplus - so you don't follow/believe in Imams Abu Bakr & Umar & Uthman & Ali & Hassan etc etc - then you are not a Muslim

[@twoplus7647]

@@mikhan5191 What? I'm talking about in matters of teachings of the deen. The Prophet PBUH said to follow his Sunnah and the Sunnah of rightly guided caliphs so we follow them as they followed the Prophet PBUH and didn't innovate in the religion. I don't believe they brought the teachings of Islam. They only conveyed what Prophet PBUH brought that's why our imam is Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

[@mikhan5191]

@@twoplus7647 - so now you admit to following other Imams after the Prophet salallahu alayhiwasallam!

[@twoplus7647]

@@mikhan5191 So now you're admitting to not being able to read and comprehend my reply. I said it's a Hadith of the Prophet PBUH, who is our imam. There is no Hadith that talks about the imams Shadi Masry is talking about.

[@TBH-t3w]

THE ONLY MADHAB IS THAT OF MUHAMMAD WA ALE MUHAMMAD SAWAS IMAM ALI IMAM AL HASSAN IMAM AL HUSSAYN IMAM ALI AS SAJJAD IMAM MUHAMMAD AL BAQIR IMAM JAFAR AS SADIQ AND WHO DID HE TEACH ? SALAM TO THOSE WHO ACCEPT TRUE GUIDANCE AND GUIDANCE IS NOT BEING SHIA OR SUNNI BUT FOLLOWING THE HAQQ AND KNOWING THE IMAM OF THE TIME ! CHAPTER 4 VERSE 59

[@tazboy1934]

Yup

[@tazboy1934]

Who are the imam of the time?

[@TBH-t3w]

@tazboy1934 THE IMAM OF THE TIME IS IMAM MUHAMMAD AL MAHDI AS THE SON OF IMAM HASSAN AL ASKIRI AS

[@Acesinz]

Abu Hanifa was a student of the great Imam Jafar hence, why im hanafi

[@MichiganTroopers123]

Take it off caps lock my guy

[@mactruck4355]

Can you please give an example of where the Salafis disagree on major Aqidah issues. They agree you can’t call upon other than Allah, agree on Allah being above His creation in the way that befits His Majesty and they affirm all of Allahs beautiful and unique Names and Attributes without saying the how or describing them but affirming and negating what Allah affirms and negates for Himself. You need to fear Allah because what you said is a clear outright lie. If you can’t give clear examples then you need to openly and publicly repent for the misinformation you just spread.

[@tazboy1934]

Problem is they say it's shirk and accuse Muslim who practice istighatha as mushriq...there seems to be two opinion/view among the sunni that one type of istighatha is Haram even if it's done with right aqeedah and some other allow it provided if it's accompanied with right belief and intention....note that there are different type of istighatha

[@sabdulrahmanshaikh1621]

It doesn't matter wether there are different types of istigatga...calling upon a person after his death only makes it haram as it's a minor shirk and thus a major sin​@@tazboy1934

[@elijahlearns8590]

You should stop using words like above when referring to Allah because words DO have meanings. So I remind YOU TO FEAR Allah as well

[@mactruck4355]

@@elijahlearns8590 im only affirming what Allah affirms for himself. We say He is above His creation in the way that befits His majesty. We do not describe how or limit it but we say He is above His creation without going further into it. For Allah throughout the Quran says He is above. He also mentions that our good deeds ascend to Him. He also says that He sent down the Quran (affirming it came from above). Allah never told us in the Quran that He is everywhere, likewise He never told us that He is nowhere. Therefore He says he is above His creation and we say likewise and affirm.

[@mikhan5191]

​@@mactruck4355- you pick specific passages which are ALL mutashabihaat (metaphorical /allegorical) and you take them LITERALLY and propagate those views as Islam! In actual fact you take yourselves out of Islam with those anthropomorphic views /ideas.

[@Aman_Hanbali]

The ignorance of this guy is so funny that even women who lose her child and mourning will laugh if she listen to this speech. Wallah, Billah Tallah by the one who creates the heaven and earth you won’t bring a single error in that methodology( I mean the salafi methodology) Bring forth evidence about what you speak, ain’t nobody got time for motivational speech. If Following the Quran and sunnah with the understanding of the sahaba makes me a salafi, then yes I am a salafi!!! He literally spoke for 2:42 minutes and there’s no Allah said, the prophet said or the sahaba said! He keep talking talking literally It’s all pure fallacy and y’all love to hear such speech ewwww!

[@ampagetech2624]

methodology , methodology - nonsensical terms deluded neo kharijites. Evil sect

[@hxyzazolchak]

You also believe Allah has 2 legs and a body like your scholars? That’s a clear mistake in aqeedah right there and there are many more

[@DarkPacmanC]

Quote a verse from the Qur’ān or an authentic hadeeth that says "Allāh has a body".

[@naasirtaff1726]

Salafi is a fifth madhab? 😂

[@twoplus7647]

American imams say silly stuff like this. 😃

[@bd4645]

@@twoplus7647it literally is tho

[@twoplus7647]

@@bd4645 Not really. No one who claims to follow the Salaf says this. It's a big lie perpetrated by ignorant people.

[@bd4645]

@@twoplus7647 so was Abu hanifa and imam malik following the salaf or not ?

[@twoplus7647]

@@bd4645 were they following a fifth madhhab? Did they say there are four madhahib in Islam and you have to follow one blindly?

[@K.w897]

Fifth madhab😂 this guy is an absolute fool😂

[@----f]

He's correct. I'll refrain from ad hominens this month, but you are ignorant and need to research this

[@tazboy1934]

Did u even listen to him

[@MichiganTroopers123]

And you are who sorry?

[@elijahlearns8590]

You are the one who is a fool because you don't understand that this particular teacher follows a school that has existed since the time of the grandchildren of the sahaba. In addition to that, they are the ones who taught the Imam of his school that we are following the principles and Foundations of what was left by the pious predecessors in Medina where most of the companions passed away . You should go sit and study your religion study Islam carefully and pick a madhab so that you can practice your worship with organized organized rules and regulations that have been practiced for more than 1200 years , instead of following a methodology that's less than 200 years old

[@daisybee5943]

Salafiah is not a madhab. And they are not all over the place. You are lying and promoting division. I urge people to go learn from them and then make up their mind.

[@AbuHumaira_]

Even Abu Hanifa Rahimullah used the methodology of Salafi

[@hxyzazolchak]

Really did abu hanifa say Allah has a body or that he has 2 legs?

[@BeardedGuy_Tawhid]

Deviant spreading deviance.

[@----f]

Salafi slogans are back

[@BeardedGuy_Tawhid]

@@----f no need for slogans just plain facts

[@----f]

@@BeardedGuy_Tawhid new challenge for you: no sectarianism, slogans, and takfiring (excommunication) during Ramadan. Challenge accepted, brother?

[@BeardedGuy_Tawhid]

@@----f I don't make takfir of anyone unless they knowingly make blatant kufr or shirk it is not a light matter a person might be upon a deviance or bidah and not be a disbeliever. Informing/warning or calling out bidah and deviance however is an obligation to all muslims when they see it all 12 months of the year. The people of desire are constantly working at eroding the Aqeeda of the laymen, shaytaan only takes this month off chained up.. best time to get through to someone stuck on a bidah or an ignorance..they can consider the evidence from Quran and Sunnah without the shaytaans whispers making it seem fair to them. Brother.. its not about conflict.. or entertainment it is about Quran and Sunnah and the fight against what opposes it, and all that opposes it is destined for the fire. A very serious matter so no "challenge" accepted if I see deviance and bidah I will oppose it for Allah sake and warn regarding it.. Salaam

[@tazboy1934]

​@@----fwallah😂