NCAA Sports Bring In $1 Billion A Year - Why Aren’t The Athletes Paid?

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@brandonburns5365
@brandonburns5365 5 жыл бұрын
Its bad enough that they dont pay them.. But its a crime how the NCAA doesnt allow players to recieve money from other sources..
@abedisbatman8811
@abedisbatman8811 5 жыл бұрын
It’s horrible. How else are they going to get money via athletics- something they pour so much time and effort into.
@jonathanwilliams2552
@jonathanwilliams2552 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon Burns Well Said
@petergriffin1387
@petergriffin1387 5 жыл бұрын
Free tution free room and board mean plan covered while the rest of us pay for school I really feel bad for them lol. I didn’t have to pay for school but many others do
@badaxtion1878
@badaxtion1878 5 жыл бұрын
Peter Griffin yea you can get that by writing a good essay. You just said you didn’t have to pay for school but I bet you also didn’t have 40+ hours of mentally and physically taxing labor while also having to pass. And no not all players get to cheat. It’s actually almost impossible if you think about it. A full time job plus over time and keeping your scholarship by performing well. It’s a lot harder than it looks or sounds. Saying you don’t feel bad when majority of the kids come from below the poverty line, is kinda messed up when everything can be taken by stubbing your toe. You should look into the NCAA. it’ll make you sick
@Sportsbettor28
@Sportsbettor28 5 жыл бұрын
They do get paid. It’s called a stipend check.
@emmanuelr710
@emmanuelr710 5 жыл бұрын
Their excuses on why they aren't paying are ridiculous.
@Guerrilla727
@Guerrilla727 5 жыл бұрын
Only way to stop them is to stop watching college sports. Hit them in the wallet.
@emmanuelr710
@emmanuelr710 5 жыл бұрын
@@Guerrilla727 exactly. This is just modern day slavery for the players we all love watching.
@adsc1489
@adsc1489 5 жыл бұрын
You're totally right. See how they say amateurism avoids having players being exploited for commercial purposes but the NCAA still racks up the money? 1 billion! This is not an association. This is a corporation. So hypocritical.
@vigneshmasnan5880
@vigneshmasnan5880 5 жыл бұрын
I personally feel that they should be paid to meet their daily needs but not in millions like professionals. When money comes into picture there are chances that they might deviate from doing things that are needful and productive.
@emmanuelr710
@emmanuelr710 5 жыл бұрын
@@adsc1489 they are the people exploiting everyone, including the students with this ridiculous high debt!
@j0epark1
@j0epark1 5 жыл бұрын
Cause how else are you gonna pay the coaches multimillion dollars every year?
@nodiggity4283
@nodiggity4283 5 жыл бұрын
It's the coaches job, college is supposed to be training just like for any subject you go to school for. How hard do you think it will be to train athletes who are getting paid and are that immature? You trying to be like Cercei telling Joffrey what to do after you put a crown on his head.
@genehakman9422
@genehakman9422 5 жыл бұрын
I am very skeptical of the $1billion number. Is this just in ticket sales? It seems extremely low if you factor in TV advertising, concessions, and merchandising.
@claudelolivier7507
@claudelolivier7507 5 жыл бұрын
@@genehakman9422 most of the NCAA's money comes from the NCAA basketball tournament.
@Flowerz__
@Flowerz__ 5 жыл бұрын
Gene Hakman the tv deal is like 800M
@gamingsaint6238
@gamingsaint6238 4 жыл бұрын
No Diggity the rule of incentive doesn’t agree with your statement.
@yoniyakub1400
@yoniyakub1400 5 жыл бұрын
College athletes shouldn't get paid similar to pro athletes, but there could be separate funds that are established to compensate college athletes and give then a head start, since the majority of them don't move on to the nba
@mariogamefreak1
@mariogamefreak1 5 жыл бұрын
Yoni Yakub they should get paid through scholarships if anything
@cjdavid1997
@cjdavid1997 5 жыл бұрын
I agree the best players should be able to get sponsorships from Nike and other companies
@nodiggity4283
@nodiggity4283 5 жыл бұрын
what about students who go to school because they are smart? should they be getting paid for it too? Let me stop you I already know you're gonna say "yes they should" to avoid embarrassing yourself by admitting you were wrong in your first comment. Just hope you learn that you are evil
@cjdavid1997
@cjdavid1997 5 жыл бұрын
No Diggity We’re not disregarding students that are smart. Why should students who don’t play sports get paid at all? Are they raking in millions of dollars? Btw, because of the revenue sports bring in, this allows for the colleges to spend money to go back into the school’s facilities.. Especially in regards to education. Now that is a fact, for most big D1 football/basketball schools.
@bibletwink666
@bibletwink666 5 жыл бұрын
@@nodiggity4283 do the same smart people make a billion dollars for a company?
@Chidulo
@Chidulo 5 жыл бұрын
Eric cartman: “How do avoid paying your slav...I mean student atholetes...”
@andim.8788
@andim.8788 4 жыл бұрын
Fax
@daviddavies2742
@daviddavies2742 5 жыл бұрын
Can't pay the player but it's ok to pay the head coach millions each year. Offer them a course in Swahili see if they still take the job.
@kreglfromworld
@kreglfromworld 5 жыл бұрын
They're employees of the university, same as professors
@-4subscriberswithahammerad521
@-4subscriberswithahammerad521 5 жыл бұрын
So can we talk about the $1 trillion dollar student loan debt instead?
@StellarBoxer
@StellarBoxer 5 жыл бұрын
-4 Subscribers with a hammer addiction Nah, they’re counting on that
@todoldtrafford
@todoldtrafford 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe if government didn’t hand out loans willy nilly, like banks did to people who didn’t qualify for, colleges would be incentivized to have more accountability to keep tuition rates lower
@mkhanman12345
@mkhanman12345 5 жыл бұрын
Make a video
@SnDxAkiimbo
@SnDxAkiimbo 5 жыл бұрын
We can talk about both, both essentially stem from the same problem, the greed of colleges and the exploitation of their student body
@humboldtoregonian9400
@humboldtoregonian9400 5 жыл бұрын
College in the 2010's is a requirement for a living wage career. So, just like K-12, college should be free. And just like high school, sports should help pay for the free college. When it comes down to the American school system our K-12 education is behind that of many other first world countries. American youths need an associates to compete in the world market. If we continue the debt train for higher education, it should be interest free loans. By having a a higher education, youths can drive American economic growth and help dismantle the system of economic disparity; moreover, educated peoples pay back society with there works. Why are these banks allowed to increase the cost of getting a higher education with interest? Why does the American government allow banks to hinder economic growth, innovation, and to promote economic disparity? Does that not sound like a Russian terrorist plot to you? Indeed, free college would still need a system in place to fund it; and, such a system would be many years in the making. However; if the government levied the power of banking, they could hand out student loans to qualifying students. The pool of money that would be set aside to do so could gain interest that could keep the pot growing. It would be expensive to start; but, I thing that interest free loans for students would be the most sustainable way to fund peoples ambitions for achieving a higher education. And as always, Viva La Revolution!
@obenasai
@obenasai 5 жыл бұрын
I think the solution would be to give them free education after their sports college career, so college athetles can focus on their sport for a period of 4 years, and after that they can still have free education
@AKT0B0S
@AKT0B0S 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao start paying players and then see what Title IX has to say when it comes to equality of pay for women’s/men’s sports.
@Samcharleston24
@Samcharleston24 5 жыл бұрын
AKT0B0S exactly lmao
@WarriorKidd06
@WarriorKidd06 5 жыл бұрын
I have said the same thing. Like pay UConn's Men basketball team more than their women and see if you don't get a lawsuit. You have to pay them equally across all sports
@nodiggity4283
@nodiggity4283 5 жыл бұрын
AKT0B0S LMAO Got em
@internettroll7497
@internettroll7497 5 жыл бұрын
They might even get paid more than wnba players.
@ocampbell1954
@ocampbell1954 5 жыл бұрын
I've been saying this forever. It's the women why they don't get paid. They'll start bitching about not getting what men get. Look at womens professional soccer players bitching about men making more money. Women don't understand the concept of supply and demand.
@simoncohn-gruenwald8867
@simoncohn-gruenwald8867 5 жыл бұрын
Not all student athletes even get full scholarships
@destroyer9003
@destroyer9003 4 жыл бұрын
@Sean Tottenham bro d1 athletes are either walk ons or on a full ride (on major sports)
@randellelinner6290
@randellelinner6290 4 жыл бұрын
@@destroyer9003 no that's not true do your research. Only the big time players get full rides at the big time schools.
@therealcadengrayson6368
@therealcadengrayson6368 3 жыл бұрын
@@randellelinner6290 That’s why he said either WALK ONS or “full riders.” I don’t know if you know what a walk on means...
@RChyshkevych
@RChyshkevych 5 жыл бұрын
The Olympic model sounds enticing. But athletes should be compensated for their time invested into the sport that takes away from the education they're supposedly recieving
@EverettBurger
@EverettBurger 5 жыл бұрын
It would let these student athletes that are legally adults to retain the rights to their likeness/image while making money off of endorsements and licensing.
@Peizxcv
@Peizxcv 5 жыл бұрын
Let’s not pretend these athletes got into the schools based on their academic achievements.
@brandonburns5365
@brandonburns5365 5 жыл бұрын
@@Peizxcv all the more reason they should play him
@RChyshkevych
@RChyshkevych 5 жыл бұрын
@@Peizxcv not all athletes are dumb jocks. Some are actually studious. But even if they're not, they're in school and are "paid in education" as the NCAA likes to say. So might as well let them actually use it
@burtonl7239
@burtonl7239 5 жыл бұрын
Uh. The whole reason they are receiving an education is because of the sport in the first place. They get a scholarship in exchange to play the sport.
@gunner0479
@gunner0479 5 жыл бұрын
If your too stingy to give the players a part of the billions that they generate atleast don't stop them from selling t shirts and merch that people WANT to buy or other business.
@NewbyTon
@NewbyTon 5 жыл бұрын
The same as why Brad doesn't get paid They steal their goals
@kehbab
@kehbab 5 жыл бұрын
Bro you are everywhere
@domf.5219
@domf.5219 5 жыл бұрын
Allow schools to set aside funds for the student athletes, at the end of their career in college sports pay them the set aside money. The amount of money can be small as long as it accounts for the long period of time students commit to college sports. The problem with apportioning money to the most effective players is that it’s a self-repeating cycle, where those players who have a ‘full time job’ can nearly completely abandon their school career. Whereas, other athletes have to focus on school. Also, how do you judge the effectiveness of a defensive lineman? There would be no fair system to apportion money to athletes proportionally without unfairly being biased by offensive players and bigger names, which get more scoring/stat sheet opportunities.
@stilljre4393
@stilljre4393 5 жыл бұрын
They should be paid a lump sum after they graduate commensurate to their time and the financial benefit they provided the school.
@EverettBurger
@EverettBurger 5 жыл бұрын
Why wait untik after graduation? The studnet athletes in this video are all adults. They should be treated as such.
@burtonl7239
@burtonl7239 5 жыл бұрын
It's already paid to them. It's called an athletic scholarship. They get to go to college for free.
@seanbarnes9550
@seanbarnes9550 5 жыл бұрын
@@burtonl7239 if they generate more money than their cost of tuition, shouldn't the player get some of that surplus/ profit?
@burtonl7239
@burtonl7239 5 жыл бұрын
@@seanbarnes9550 No. That goes to the organizers and future events. Being a student athlete isn't a job. It is more of a camp/program, same like any uni degree. How ridiculous would it be if I went to uni to study computer science and at the end of four years, I insist that the school pay me a portion of the profit they collect in tuition fees?
@seanbarnes9550
@seanbarnes9550 5 жыл бұрын
@@burtonl7239 you missed one part, some student athletes GENERATE a surplus of money SURPASSING their tuition costs. Your example is asinine because you attended school and learned from the school and added nothing to it. In other words your example "took" from school, I was speaking of student athletes that "add" to their school. Try again because your example has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
@itsasetup8652
@itsasetup8652 5 жыл бұрын
Working at a university I can tell you why. each program on campus has o pay for itself. So on my campus, men’s basketball pays for all the other sports programs, men and women. Personally I don’t think sports should be on college campuses. It helps out about 100 people, but takes by far the largest land mass, utilities, and required “activity fees” that put the rest of the students in debt, to fund a sports training camp.
@KnightSlasher
@KnightSlasher 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that is like less than 1 percent of the national debt
@colbyharley9975
@colbyharley9975 5 жыл бұрын
The nation debt is like 19 trillion dollars. Compared to 1 billion. That’s W A Y less than 1 percent lol
@resignedfour
@resignedfour 5 жыл бұрын
Spongebob SquarePants someone didn’t take math apparently
@DjJooze
@DjJooze 5 жыл бұрын
im hoping for ww3 sometime soon
@DjJooze
@DjJooze 5 жыл бұрын
@@joecooper8527 yay no more debt
@sagnikbhattacharya482
@sagnikbhattacharya482 3 жыл бұрын
I got paid for being an undergrad TA. This did not make me focus less on my classes just because I was getting paid to do what I like to do (teaching). It is ridiculous that people are using this argument to justify not paying athletes.
@humboldtoregonian9400
@humboldtoregonian9400 5 жыл бұрын
If a team walked off the playing field, it would start a movement.
@SoapNSuds_
@SoapNSuds_ 5 жыл бұрын
They don’t have enough time to study? They get free education in exchange for playing a sport. The majority of us WORK A JOB to pay for our education. How is that any different?
@agentbubbles782
@agentbubbles782 5 жыл бұрын
My cousin plays college football. He said “the educational benefits are bullshit”. He gets less time to study for tests. The only thing he got was a full scholarship. He had to buy his own books, and other supplies. He also had to buy his own computer.
@evacody1249
@evacody1249 5 жыл бұрын
Oh dear kind of like other other students who have to BUY there OWN BOOKS and SUPPLIES. My sister worked to become a teacher she was not paid and had to buy all her own books, supplies, etc. So please stop with the water works.
@hillre14
@hillre14 5 жыл бұрын
So what they're saying paying athletes would be like getting a job in the real world... How dare us prepare them for the job market
@FOXofOJAI
@FOXofOJAI 5 жыл бұрын
Their pay should accrue throughout their time at University, and be distributed once they graduate. This way they will still have incentive to work hard in school.
@cole4236
@cole4236 5 жыл бұрын
thats the best idea i've heard so far
@marlonmoncrieffe0728
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, good idea. But not ONCE they graduate; rather a year or two afterward.
@CloudTribe
@CloudTribe 5 жыл бұрын
That's like paying an employee when he quits his job
@marlonmoncrieffe0728
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 5 жыл бұрын
@@CloudTribe More like a trust fund.
@msi8311
@msi8311 2 жыл бұрын
Their incentive to work hard in school comes from GPA minimums required to play. Maybe a % can be given to them while in college. No guarantee every athlete will stick it out till the end.
@gerrodrichardson7846
@gerrodrichardson7846 5 жыл бұрын
It's modern day slavery I've heard terrible stories of these kids having no food and needing to financially help parents back home being torn between the two
@Sportsbettor28
@Sportsbettor28 5 жыл бұрын
They’re not slaves. Nobody forcing them to play
@sadtoy1193
@sadtoy1193 5 жыл бұрын
The only ones arguing that college athletes shouldn't get paid, are non-college athletes so they would not understand the struggle of being an athlete and student.
@SmartChannel01
@SmartChannel01 5 жыл бұрын
How about the students paying for them. Why should my tuiton should pay theirs with them getting compensation too?
@henryjw15
@henryjw15 3 жыл бұрын
The majority of revenue generated in NCAA is from a handful of schools. The graph in the video showed that the top 10 schools averaged about 144 million dollars in revenue each year, the video reported that NCAA is now generating 1 billion dollars of revenue, there are 250 universities in division 1 athletics. Everyone is looking at the revenue generated from the university of Texas, not the revenue generated from New Mexico State university.
@danoxgaming3722
@danoxgaming3722 5 жыл бұрын
I know a person who wanted to play softball for TCU, but backed out of it because the coach wouldn’t let her go on the Pre-Med track. The Coach’s reasoning was that she wouldn’t have enough time to get good grades. The NCAA cannot say they value education if student-athletes cannot take the classes they want
@Jacorriee
@Jacorriee 5 жыл бұрын
This would only make the regular students more jealous of student athletes they already get mad because of the benefits......there going to protest and talk about how unfair it is even though there working for it 🤦🏽‍♂️
@creedbratton606
@creedbratton606 5 жыл бұрын
No , regular people dont have a skill or talent that is worth the millions that the athletes have.
@jonathanwilliams2552
@jonathanwilliams2552 5 жыл бұрын
College Athletes should be paid. It is because of their hard work why coaches are making so much money.
@bmxer123ist
@bmxer123ist 5 жыл бұрын
The purpose of going to college in the first place is to get an education.
@EverettBurger
@EverettBurger 5 жыл бұрын
I am sure being in a strategic game film meeting with Coach K is just as educational as a lesson in Professor Smith's Philososphy 101 course. Education is multifaceted.
@jecr8623
@jecr8623 5 жыл бұрын
Not if you're only there to go pro in a sport. Some pro leagues require you to go to college first.
@bmxer123ist
@bmxer123ist 5 жыл бұрын
Je Cr even if that student does exactly that, plays in college, gets into the pros and doesn’t finish school. What happens if that player gets hurt and can’t play that sport anymore? What do you do now?
@Peizxcv
@Peizxcv 5 жыл бұрын
bmxer123ist Then they should have picked a major that isn’t just fillers. Let’s see you playing football while getting a degree in biochemistry.
@bmxer123ist
@bmxer123ist 5 жыл бұрын
Peizxcv if you major in biochemistry, your goal is obviously to become a biochemist after you graduate. Not becoming a professional athlete. Athletics in college is extra curricular activity. Not a major
@yuehhtewbb427
@yuehhtewbb427 5 жыл бұрын
There are 480,000 athletes and if you include staff and volunteers that makes NCAA possible, that number goes to more than 3 million people. 1 billion divided by 480000 = 2000 dollars 1 billion divided by 3 million = 300 dollars So you would get anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars per season if it was distributed more evenly. I'm sorry but you aren't getting Le Bron's salary in NCAA.
@yuehhtewbb427
@yuehhtewbb427 5 жыл бұрын
And for another thing, how does a channel that calls itself *BUSINESS INSIDER* fail at grade three math?
@yuehhtewbb427
@yuehhtewbb427 5 жыл бұрын
And where do you get off calling John Oliver a comedian????
@TheMjphoto45
@TheMjphoto45 5 жыл бұрын
More people need to talk about this
@cjdavid1997
@cjdavid1997 5 жыл бұрын
I believe college athletes should be able to receive endorsement deals and money from sponsors (from coaches, higher-ups, etc). If there’s a will, there’s a way. It’ll take time. NCAA has always been about profiting and they use education as some scapegoat. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I do think that NCAA athletes have way more going for them though. Their potential is sky high. With their student-athlete background, there’s plenty they could venture into.
@peterf4620
@peterf4620 5 жыл бұрын
C.J. David Maybe the Olympic model for student athletes? Get some compensation after they are done in college?
@gunner0479
@gunner0479 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@dboyagod
@dboyagod 5 жыл бұрын
Who else saw victor oladipo in the thumbnail and clicked
@bobtyler8374
@bobtyler8374 5 жыл бұрын
why do people have such a problem? Predominantly young black players from not great backgrounds getting paid for what they do. I believe south park made an entire episode around this.
@davidwhite4149
@davidwhite4149 4 жыл бұрын
Because they get into college with an athletic scholarship without being qualified to be there. I wish major college sports would die. They are for the most part losing fans and revenue. Thank God.
@tooreal8968
@tooreal8968 5 жыл бұрын
How about find the answer why regular college students not only has to paid tuition but also these ridiculous athletic scholarship,stadiums,etc?
@sjohnny8221
@sjohnny8221 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon Martin He’s saying how about find out why the regular college student has to pay for tuition, and all these fees for the athletic facility!!
@tooreal8968
@tooreal8968 5 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Martin Can you not read?
@tooreal8968
@tooreal8968 5 жыл бұрын
@@sjohnny8221 Thank you. You understand my comment. Why should other students pay while these so called "student athletics" get scholarship? Why should the school invest millions in to stadiums when the regular students don't even have access to a decent gym? Why are these college sport team coaches getting paid millions while some assistant professors teaching academic courses are struggling to support their families? This system is not fair to the regular student at all.
@3lo0oo0sh
@3lo0oo0sh 5 жыл бұрын
@@tooreal8968 Because some bring money and some don't . Can you guess who is bringing and who isn't ?
@sjohnny8221
@sjohnny8221 5 жыл бұрын
Ali Actually regular students bring plenty of money to the schools. If college athletes start to get paid that’s gonna be a hike in tuition prices. Honestly paying college students would lead to the regular college student to be paying the athlete. If you think student loan crisis is bad now, it’ll be way worse then. I don’t think college athletes deserve a paycheck, they get free tuition, room and board, books, and meals. They finish school debt free in a society where that’s becoming more and more unlikely. Now, I say all that to say this. While I don’t believe every athlete deserves a paycheck, I do believe they should be paid a percentage for their likeness. So, if a guy is generating a bunch of revenue from something like jersey sales, then the school should cut them a check for their percentage when they graduate, or finish school.
@Malik-gy8jk
@Malik-gy8jk 5 жыл бұрын
Little money is better than no money
@jacobhardin1966
@jacobhardin1966 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that college athletes do get paid in some ways. Scholarship money and special benefits are already received by many athletes at different schools. Since many athletes get full rides, or partial scholarship, it is essentially like they are receiving compensation to cover expenses for their schooling to participate in a collegiate sport. This is already more compensation than most college students receive in the first place. If they can receive a free education and degree while playing a sport that they most likely enjoy playing anyways, then they should not need to be compensated with a salary. It could be thought as an unpaid internship, where they can look at the opportunity to play a sport in college can get them a degree, and also prepare them to go professional one day where they will get paid. Either way, scholarships can get them a free education. They should not be paid a salary for playing a sport in college, but scholarships and other benefits need to be provided for their hard work and time spent in practices, games and work outs.
@carolinebrown5448
@carolinebrown5448 5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, especially for big name schools. Some of the football players at my school get their food and housing provided for them, scholarship money, and lots of clothes and other gear all just for being on the team. While they may not directly receive money to spend on whatever they want, they do have many things provided for them that help them save their own money. I do think some of them may be given a little too much sometimes, but overall they do deserve at least some of what they are receiving.
@redsyko7505
@redsyko7505 5 жыл бұрын
As long as they are making money off of the backs of these students they need to be paying them. If they believe the money would be distracting from education put it in a Trust that can only be accessed after college.
@jankostadinovrucks1597
@jankostadinovrucks1597 5 жыл бұрын
They are going to college because they are obligated to do so, they don’t care about education, you can get your meaningless paper and go work 9-5 all you want, they are on their way to make millions and an inflated valueless year or two of study won’t change anything.
@destroyer9003
@destroyer9003 4 жыл бұрын
@@jankostadinovrucks1597 thats the select few, most players dont go pro, especially in minor sports they arent getting paid millions after school
@replayreviews6339
@replayreviews6339 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe payment in the form of an annuity or a retirement plan. Maybe some kind of semester bonus to more than cover the cost of living and expenses and give them some spending money. I’m torn on this one. Because yeah. The cost of a 4+ year college can be off the charts. So if they’re getting full rides that’s awesome. No student debt when they finish! But at the same time they’re extremely undervalued for their talents and abilities.
@edwardnembhard8923
@edwardnembhard8923 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a amazing that Muir who makes money reporting on athletes does not think the athlete he reports on should not be paid.. not very bright and the AD from Stanford who also gets paid for managing athletes does not want them to be paid but gets a bump in his salary when Stanford football wins not rowing. No one would accept these terms in their employment but they want these kids shame on the adults. Lastly it’s amazing how ncaa talks about education but has not suggested anything like granting these athletes 3 years of academic eligibility beyond their playing days to help them get the most from their college experience since the kids earned it. Ian sure his salary has gone up every year on the backs of these players
@henryjw15
@henryjw15 3 жыл бұрын
Heard of title IX? That might explain things.
@mollywatts5491
@mollywatts5491 5 жыл бұрын
An interesting thing (at least to me) is what would this entail for sports less popular than football and basketball. I myself am a swimmer, and most often swim programs do not bring in much revenue for schools. What would it entail to pay athletes in these smaller sports?
@msi8311
@msi8311 2 жыл бұрын
How many people show to the swim meets? How many TV stations cover it? How many sponsors are advertised at the pool? How many people tune in to watch? If the answer to all of those questions is little to none, the compensation cannot be the same as sports where millions of people tune in to watch.
@DrAdnan
@DrAdnan 5 жыл бұрын
The athletes should be paid. They spend a lot of time working.
@Anesthetist
@Anesthetist 5 жыл бұрын
@Rork Poast and? they make NCAA happen. they should atleast get money for what they brought.
@Sportsbettor28
@Sportsbettor28 5 жыл бұрын
So do students....
@johnnytran2107
@johnnytran2107 5 жыл бұрын
Because old people always take advantages of young people
@michaelgray1803
@michaelgray1803 5 жыл бұрын
Young gets old
@CloudTribe
@CloudTribe 5 жыл бұрын
Old white people
@Jaz-Martin
@Jaz-Martin 5 жыл бұрын
To solve this is really simple. Do not pay the college athletes, but let the college players make money off of their name. For example, Duke wouldn’t be paying Zion directly, but Zion will be able to make money from Nike, Gatorade, and etc., if they sign him. Everyone wins!
@mariogamefreak1
@mariogamefreak1 5 жыл бұрын
Jasmus Martin aren’t they paid through scholarships
@ryant114
@ryant114 5 жыл бұрын
Except the 99% of other athletes who would make a dime because Nike doesn't want to sign them.
@Jaz-Martin
@Jaz-Martin 5 жыл бұрын
mariogamefreak1 most but players of Zion caliber are not paid fairly in comparison to how much he brings in...Again let the big sponsors of the world sign him pay him. That way NCAA is in the clear and Zion can get his fair value. Everyone wins. As a former graduate I could make as much money as I could without my university being involved even though I was using their resources to make that money
@Jaz-Martin
@Jaz-Martin 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan T You say that like its a bad thing....That 99% isn’t Zion so why should they get paid equal? Let the market dictate how much they are worth
@ryant114
@ryant114 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jaz-Martin What problem do you solve if one player out of 100 gets paid. None. But I don't see an issue with how it is now. All their needs are met and they get an education out of it.
@BruvahSulaiman
@BruvahSulaiman 5 жыл бұрын
They do have time to study. They don't have time to party.
@qzo-faith
@qzo-faith 5 жыл бұрын
They should get paid by their cgpa pointer result. The higher pointer the higher the salary. That way the student can focus more both in the court aswell as in the class.
@billyfresh23
@billyfresh23 5 жыл бұрын
they can’t pay them because of title 9, they’d have to pay everyone the same amount. so imagine the heisman winner being paid the same amount as a walk on female lacrosse player. the thing is most players aren’t good enough to go pro anyway and that’s the only way they’d be able to get a free ride to begin with. everyone in college isn’t zion williamson who is a lock for the nba, most wont sniff the league so what about them? they’ll be lucky to make the g league or play overseas, most will not be 1 and done, they’ll be there all 4 years, so if those guys can get a free education where they can make money after school that’s good too right? so the schools and the ncaa can’t pay them, so they should allow the players to make their own money. they’re not allowed to accept gifts or get a job and that’s ridiculous. if someone is popular let them accept endorsements, do commercials, do appearances, etc. that way the big stars can monetize their value.
@organicoregano
@organicoregano 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mikebaker6418
@mikebaker6418 5 жыл бұрын
It would be funny if they start paying college athletes and the athletes start sitting out seasons or red shirting because of a contract dispute. Or schools trading players to other schools. Imagine getting traded from Harvard to Central Michigan University lol.
@mikebaker6418
@mikebaker6418 5 жыл бұрын
@Christian Hernandez hence the word "imagine".
@charlesreed3672
@charlesreed3672 5 жыл бұрын
Most Universities are Government institutions and subject to federal and state laws. Under law amateur athletes are not allowed to be paid. It is that simple. Most are supported with educational incentive. I had a four year scholarship for athletics and I was paid with room and board, free schooling, extra tutoring, job help, and clothing from the school and its agencies.
@mayanksharma3832
@mayanksharma3832 5 жыл бұрын
Student athletes must be paid or atleast colleges shoukd take care of their expenses. In John Olivers special I saw in 1 case a student athlete did not even have money to buy food. Thats disgusting when NCAA is making $1 Billion in revenue. Even if they can't be paid market rates still a minimum wage and all their personal expenses like a set amount on clothing, shoes, entertainment, food must be paid to them. And if commercial uses like use of name in video games is done then some bonuses must be paid. Enough is enough. Stop treating student athletes as slaves
@Tony-my3sy
@Tony-my3sy 5 жыл бұрын
This is why most nba athletes are playing 1-2 years in college and want to get drafted.
@cesarcanete3402
@cesarcanete3402 5 жыл бұрын
I still think that whole "one & done" rule is a waste of both time & money. If you're main intention is to go directly to the NBA, why not go play overseas & raise your draft stock? You gain playing experience, get paid & get to experience living in a foreign country for a year or two. That's a more sensible option than wasting your time in college.
@Tony-my3sy
@Tony-my3sy 5 жыл бұрын
Cesar Canete youre right! But some players are smart they are getting a free ride all through college. So play college ball get a degree and boom you won life
@thisrandomboy999
@thisrandomboy999 5 жыл бұрын
Cesar Canete but then u lose popularity playing overseas since ur not in America
@jehmehlfair8119
@jehmehlfair8119 5 жыл бұрын
People tend to not know this but college athletes get scholarship checks per month like 1500 or 1600, plus your getting a free food , gear, and shoes so what you spending 1600 in a month on
@AnhVu-xo8hs
@AnhVu-xo8hs 5 жыл бұрын
What about injuries would schools cover ligaments surgery or they would dump them right after they injure themselves earning schools money? What about insurance what about life after colleges
@jehmehlfair8119
@jehmehlfair8119 5 жыл бұрын
Anh Vũ well schools do still provide players their scholarships there have been many cases where players can’t play anymore however they still can keep their scholarships and the money they get.
@jacksonhamm5631
@jacksonhamm5631 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like they should be able to sell autographs, sign endorsements, etc. but paying them is not a good idea. Only a handful of schools could afford to pay their student athletes and it would most likely only be for two sports. These athletes get a free education, free meals, free trips across the country, and many other benefits. That is more than enough for the majority of college athletes. High school players play for the love of the game, if you don’t want to do that don’t play.
@AlexYoon
@AlexYoon 5 жыл бұрын
They do get paid. Paid with scholarship, free travel, free professional training, better food than anyone else, free clothes and shoes. That's like 75k in free money regular students pay for but get nothing out of.
@swisstexan7812
@swisstexan7812 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t find that the athletes should get direct money just for playing but I find they should be free for all endorsement deals especially like having a KZbin channel
@gunner0479
@gunner0479 5 жыл бұрын
They're not even allowed to sell t shirts that shit is insane. I don't know how they get away with this bullshit
@rednorthman
@rednorthman 5 жыл бұрын
They should get payed, it's only right The NCAA is taking advantage of these players. They offer them nothing compared to what they get. They should pay all athletes for playing for there team and pay them once they graduate or leave the college. That would make it fair, the athletes could try to focus on school and sports but know once they completed college they will be reimbursed. Alot of players dont make to professional sports, so there giving up on more focus on there education and time to play for a organization that just uses them, Many the players should shut down and tell them they wont play tell there payed
@evacody1249
@evacody1249 5 жыл бұрын
Is that going to happen for all those there who are not athletes?
@Kyrelel
@Kyrelel 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure why this is even a debate. They're amateurs
@hanedoggy
@hanedoggy 5 жыл бұрын
A couple things: College athletes are CHOOSING to play sports and this CHOICE has positive and negative drawbacks. The good: get partial to full college tuition covered while still having the opportunity to get a degree, um $15-$50k/yr IS a salary. The bad: have to work harder to achieve high level of success in both academics & sports (how is working harder bad when you are getting to do what you love?). Every choice someone makes has to assess the trade-offs. If students WANT to play sports and get tuition covered to do so, they also have to assess whether the potential hit in GPA is worth it. For the players going professional, it is often worth leaving school a year early to sign with a team, and that is their choice to make. Sorry, but I completely disagree with this video's attempts to make a case for student athletes to make some 'real' money... because often, they already are via their educational opportunities. Look at minor league players- often barely scrape by and may never make it big. They additionally may not choose to get a college education, and certainly don't have a direct opportunity to do so while tied to their minor league careers. College students are already often times paid [tuition costs] more than these players who also are potentially more talented individuals. Minor league players sign contracts just as collegiate athletes do. Is everyone forgetting the 'free' hype and advertising a player gets by being put on film or the cover of a game? Maybe the NCAA should charge the player for being their agent. I fail to see how college athletes have a leg to stand on here.
@starcherry6814
@starcherry6814 5 жыл бұрын
50 Hours a week? For no pay? They won't even let student employees work over 19hrs a week and we're being paid minimum wage.
@nodiggity4283
@nodiggity4283 5 жыл бұрын
That's because the sports are essentially internships, not student employees. It's to get experience for the pros. Just because they managed to make money off of it does not mean the purpose of the program is to pay them
@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes
@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes 5 жыл бұрын
Free high education for everyone should be a right, not a privilege.
@peterf4620
@peterf4620 5 жыл бұрын
Diogo Sales That’s true. But, these student athletes are producing so much money for these universities. So, tell me how does Alabama get a lot of their revenue? The football program brings in a ton of money for the university. I think the student athletes should get more than just an education. The NCAA brings in a lot of revenue. Those players don’t see a dime of that money. That’s seems like exploitation too me. Plus, most of the college football and basketball coaches are get paid millions of dollars. Just my opinion.
@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes
@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes 5 жыл бұрын
@@peterf4620 I agree with you. They should get paid, Millions in fact just like the professionals. Because they bring so much money to their universities and everything else. My point is: if all the high education was public, high quality and free, they would be getting paid already long time ago and we wouldn't be having this discussion. But the US decided to spend trillions on pointless Wars while their people get sicker and dumber by the day. Right now what I see is they are a modern version of slavery. Because NCAA is like slave owners profiting millions not paying their workers anything.
@peterf4620
@peterf4620 5 жыл бұрын
Diogo Sales 100% agree with your statement. The one and done rule for college basketball is hurting the NBA talent pool. High school basketball players should be able to go straight into the NBA’s developmental league. High school baseball players can get drafted into the MLB. Yeah, they will most likely will be in single - A or AA minor league baseball system. Something’s gotta change with the NCAA for the better.
@derekwarner8478
@derekwarner8478 5 жыл бұрын
They get scholarships to go to those schools and those scholarships pay for most of their classes and books. I know this because I was an athlete for a college.
@johnhanson9245
@johnhanson9245 3 жыл бұрын
Why they are not paid? They are not professionals. These athletes have free tuition. NCAA just decided to allow schools to pay athletes. You will see Big schools become even more dominant. Will grades be an option? What requirement will the athletes have to the university?
@david2742
@david2742 5 жыл бұрын
Pay in room and board. All athletes are guaranteed food and shelter, you can also throw in textbooks cause those are the other big expense. Then they should be allowed to make money off their images, autographs, jerseys, appearances etc. And then you also have strict rules on academic eligibility that is regulated by some government entity so that schools don’t try and cheat the system with “paper classes”. Food and lodging is always the biggest expense and the image income is icing on the cake. Also throw in limitations on how much time can be spent in practice, they’re students first and should never spend more time playing sports than studying and in class
@checkmyplaylist6879
@checkmyplaylist6879 5 жыл бұрын
Cause most of the teams are bad
@Trestyles78
@Trestyles78 Жыл бұрын
The education received is not free! It is in exchange of the athlete's time, labor, and skill set/talent.
@rcutler9
@rcutler9 5 жыл бұрын
It's a simple answer. College athletes are willing to play without being paid
@YvngGoat_
@YvngGoat_ 4 жыл бұрын
If college players were paid it would be so hard to make a division 1 basketball team.
@MrMentalz2
@MrMentalz2 5 жыл бұрын
Not only are these kids not paid. But the NCAA does not allow these kids to get money from other sources. I think they should get paid because not all the D1 football and basketball guys will go to the NBA or NFL. And the avg career length is not that long, it’s 3yrs in the NFL. If you pay them in college at least they have 6 yrs pay to invest or save.
@EverettBurger
@EverettBurger 5 жыл бұрын
Two quick questions: 1. Can athletes get workmans comp if injured on the field? 2. Do any universities allow students to major in the sport they compete in?
@jecr8623
@jecr8623 5 жыл бұрын
No and no. You can't major in a sport because that would be a useless degree unless you go pro or want to be a coach (but they have sports management for that anyway).
@Sportsbettor28
@Sportsbettor28 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are insured by the University
@pierrelandry9613
@pierrelandry9613 5 жыл бұрын
How about receiving pay after their college career is over? Any money earned through endorsements could be withheld until their eligibility has expired or declaring themselves eligible for their respective drafts. The schools could double the stipends they pay the athletes and pay everyone of them who leaves the school, early or not, for services rendered on a pay scale according to performance and contribution. Even 4year scout team members deserve something.
@OkonkwoBigYams
@OkonkwoBigYams 5 жыл бұрын
Every college inflates athletes grades, even for small sports and schools. The time commitment is huge, but so is working your way through college, and what student hasn't responded I needed more time to study before? Hard to have sympathy
@bamboospout
@bamboospout 5 жыл бұрын
The framing is very biased. Whether someone deserves to be paid and should get paid are very different questions.
@cloudridermrbliss7085
@cloudridermrbliss7085 5 жыл бұрын
What about insurance? If they get hurt in court?
@daniels.3062
@daniels.3062 5 жыл бұрын
Student athletes spend four years being coached and honing their craft. That's an education of sorts. I wonder if that got factored in?
@gabesfam915
@gabesfam915 5 жыл бұрын
3:32 50 hrs a week on athletics? That's about 7 hrs a day Monday through Sunday. Is that really true.?
@nodiggity4283
@nodiggity4283 5 жыл бұрын
no. They literally have practice once a day for 1 or 2 hours. The idiots in the video are including travel time to games.
@NSeaBear
@NSeaBear 3 жыл бұрын
I think a pay the players model really looks like is make sure they aren’t homeless, make sure they aren’t starving and without food of nutritional value. Allow them to get scholarships and make a small percentage off jerseys. Basically they have to market themselves. I understand that there isn’t enough money. But relaxing the rules is all that’s needed. Also don’t force players to go to school for X amount of years to go pro. If forces a system of poverty. If coaches want to buy them lunch let them do that.
@Denzel_Watchington
@Denzel_Watchington 5 жыл бұрын
*G R E E D* *If you play division I sports, you should not have to pay a CENT for school, room & board, and food. Plus benefits.*
@Sportsbettor28
@Sportsbettor28 5 жыл бұрын
They dont tho
@jaguarfamily2012
@jaguarfamily2012 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao, they don’t understand or realize how lucky they are not having to pay an athlete
@JB-qf5pn
@JB-qf5pn 5 жыл бұрын
These athletes aren’t forced to attend these universities, you can go pro in any sport without attending college. They go there to showcase their talent against other athletes. If they so chose they can sit out the waiting period their particular sport requires. We don’t pay doctors to go to school and they serve a much greater purpose in the world than athletes.
@jacobhasagun8402
@jacobhasagun8402 5 жыл бұрын
I just wrote a paper about this lol
@jehmehlfair8119
@jehmehlfair8119 5 жыл бұрын
Also if u don’t want to pay players nba has to allow players to enter draft in hs, so players who want money can go straight to the league, but if u pay players in college there’s no point in them going to school and they’ll be sucking up scholarships for other athletes that actually want to attend school and get an education
@hbarudi
@hbarudi 5 жыл бұрын
Sports are big in the United States, but this NCAA connection to schools and universities need to be disconnected. Yes kids need the sports, but they should not become part of the high tuition cost problem when universities are charged so much for this. If they make so much revenue, be don't charge universities for the cost of sports and keep tuition rates at a reasonable level.
@Reconseal4050
@Reconseal4050 5 жыл бұрын
I think players could get incentives for advancing each time they win like a gaming tournament. That way it will help them pay off some of those loans.
@davidowen924
@davidowen924 5 жыл бұрын
if college athletes would be paid, I would be fine with that in one condition. ALL of the other students at that university are no longer forced to pay extra money for scholarships. Even now I hate my college since I had to pay around $1000 a year extra for athletes scholarships so that our school could be seen as bad at every sport besides volleyball.
@methodman5639
@methodman5639 5 жыл бұрын
YANG GANG BABY
@mltnr290
@mltnr290 5 жыл бұрын
Not paid? I grew up in a collage town and have seen what goes on. No, athletes aren't paid like a paycheck. But they do get an awful lot of perks. I had a friend whos family owned the best tailoring shop in town. All of the collage athletes who shopped there had their purchases (including $1,000 suits) put on the Collages tab. New cars (that were H.S. graduation presents from their parents). Off campus rent paid. My grandmother was a hostess at an exclusive restaurant where they just signed for the meals and it was billed to the Collage. And who knows what they get from the Alumni Associations? And , of course, all tuition and living costs paid.
@TheCrayonMan529
@TheCrayonMan529 5 жыл бұрын
I guess it's hard tbh. In my heart, I think student athletes should get paid. In my head though, it's more complicated. Should all student athletes get paid, regardless of sport? I was a NCAA athlete, but volleyball wasn't generating anything for the school. Basketball and football are the main drivers of profit. Should a student athlete, who gets 0 playing time, get money? It's just complicated. Women's program don't generate money for schools usually either. Would this mean they wouldn't get pay?
@CloudTribe
@CloudTribe 5 жыл бұрын
I think it should be scaled to the value each individual sport generates. That way it incentivizes players on teams to work harder and better promote themselves. And theirs always money in womens volleyball ;)
@kidpeligro7878
@kidpeligro7878 5 жыл бұрын
They don't pay up NCAA players and then penalize them if they are found to be recieving money from agents.
@micahvuki3917
@micahvuki3917 4 жыл бұрын
Time commitment for college athletes is too much for regular school studies. It's pretty much a full time job for them. Either pay them, let them get endorsements or sponsors, or lower the time commitment.
@philipwrencher2941
@philipwrencher2941 3 жыл бұрын
Olympic amateurism. Allow the student athletes to make money on their likeness. Let them monetize from KZbin and other sites, allow them to sell autographs have appearance fees, commercials. Other students on campus able to make money in their fields on scholarships. Paying them directly would be too hard, football and basketball generates most of the operating budget for all the other sports
@jondon2345
@jondon2345 5 жыл бұрын
Ok what are schools doing with that money should at least be recorded
@CheliCheli89
@CheliCheli89 5 жыл бұрын
If they don’t pay them, then don’t make them sign up for so many clases per semester. Let them pick two classes maximum & then they’ll have time to study even if it takes them 1, 2, or 3 years more to finish. This way, maybe they won’t be so occupied that they don’t have time to sleep or study after or before practice/games.
@tonyzan5268
@tonyzan5268 5 жыл бұрын
Of course they deserve to be paid, but they will never be paid. The billions they generate in revenue is already committed elsewhere. It's not about convincing people of the morality of paying players, it's about convincing powerful stakeholders to give up their slice of the pie. Only 2 NCAA sports actually make a profit men's basketball and football (there is no women's football). Soccer, lacrosse, baseball, gymnastics, skating, skiing, water polo, hockey, wrestling, track and field, etc. All NCAA sports with male and female counterparts lose money. The costs of operating these sports is more than the revenue they bring in. There are only 2 sports in the NCAA portfolio that generate profits. Men's basketball and football. Men's baseball doesn't earn more than it costs because elite baseball prospects are drafted out if Highschool and join a mlb club's farm system. College baseball is full of 2nd rate prospects. The money these 2 sports earn is used to finance coaches salaries, libraries, science labs, research facilities, university dormitories, research grants, etc. Also the NCAA uses the profits from football and men's basketball to cover the costs of operating other sports and their female version. Lots of people will lose out if the players are paid anywhere close to what they deserve. Eg. The reason the us women's national soccer team is a global powerhouse is because NCAA men's basketball and football players are not paid. The us men's soccer team is a joke compared to the status of the women's team in comparison to their international competition. Internationally men's soccer is extremely commercially viable and profitable. Major soccer clubs find and recruit teen and preteen boys into their soccer academies and invest in their development and training, because the back end profits are so massive this makes economic sense. Smaller soccer academies and clubs will develop elite talent and literally sell them off to larger clubs. There is a whole economic model for develop male soccer talent in Europe. Internationally women's soccer has no where near as much profitability and thus there is no economic reason to develop female players. This gives American women a far less competitive field to play against. Further because title 9 forces universities to offer equivalent programs for women that they offer males, American women soccer players have an avenue for development that women in other countries do not. If men's basketball and football players were paid the millions they deserve to be paid, the NCAA could not operate sports like soccer that have no market viability in the us. Oh and by the way if we are being hones all of the elite players are being paid under the table by boosters and bagmen. It's just six figures is nowhere close to their value.
@Tyler-sp7fc
@Tyler-sp7fc 5 жыл бұрын
So many cons to paying players that people don't realize or think about. You start paying players, get ready to say good bye to scholarships, free tuition, free housing, etc... Also, if you start paying players, don't whine when they're dismissed after they get injured. They'd be employees, not students. In my eyes, the only logical route would to adopt the Olympic Amateurism Model they talked about. Due to the discrepancy between most players and popularity, allow them to get paid off of their likeness, sign shoe contracts, sell autographs and memorabilia.
@martinluther123
@martinluther123 5 жыл бұрын
2:34 that sounds like a big pile of bullcrap to me.
@l3rd816
@l3rd816 5 жыл бұрын
They should be paid based on how much the school brings in from ticket sales, Jersey sales and any money made from Any media and divide it by all athletic teams in their school program so that high performers earn and low performers earn the same amount. doesn’t matter if the best makes the same as the worst it’s like a participation trophy every one gets one. High profile schools would obviously make more than a low profile schools but wouldn’t the best of the best want to play for the best and earn more..so during collage application time they can decide where would they make the most
@ccateni28
@ccateni28 5 жыл бұрын
NCAA still needs to give moneys stolen.
@gm92845
@gm92845 5 жыл бұрын
Putting them in the category of being amateurs just adds more insult to injury. I think they should be paid a set rate maybe have a cap of 100,000 a year even though they may be worth more than that to the university. So there would be more of an incentive to either go pro or finish their education.
@aaroncreagh4402
@aaroncreagh4402 5 жыл бұрын
Should student athletes get paid? If they have a full scholarship, full terms of their educational pursuits, should be disclosed before before the first game of the season begins. Including any monetary benefits, and how the money will be divided among the player, his family, and the hosting school. It will be tricky. (but why wasn't this an offered course at my school?)
@Monkeyboy707
@Monkeyboy707 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe... top 2 revenue making programs can pay their athletes 5k a year but they are forced to pass 80% of the classes they take? I don't know.
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