Remember when Haku was considered a threat and a prodigy for his ice mirrors? Good times....
@risingreform3816 Жыл бұрын
I swear this the only series people do this lol he’s from the first arc hate it or love it power creeps happen in battle shounen and in the grand scheme of things Haku is a prodigy there’s a reason Kabuto edo tensei him.
@picassojulien899 Жыл бұрын
@@risingreform3816no fr😂 its been 20 plus years since haku and mfs want naruto and everyone to be on that level still
@JKBlackClover Жыл бұрын
Do they expect the characters to not get stronger? 😂 Characters growing in power happens in every anime. Hell, it happens in every fiction.
@KeDe1606 Жыл бұрын
I‘ve heard of „taking things to the extreme“, but this is going a bit _too_ far. Like, saying that Haku of all villains was like… the peak of the entire Naruto franchise? I mean, yeah, he and Zabuza were great villains, but we’re talking about the same show that has Gaara, Orochimaru, oh, and the *goddamn Akatsuki* (sans Obito and Zetsu because 1. Izanagi and Izanami were a mistake, and 2. the infamous Kaguya twist).
@blackogjesus Жыл бұрын
@@risingreform3816literally bro it's like damn I get it but GET OVER IT. If you hate power creeps, dbz level explosions ECT go watch some damn baki, hajime no ippo, kengan asura, death note, assassination classroom, Elfen Lied and probably countless more I'm just naming one's I've seen. I think ppl tend to forget the first episode a literal fox destroys a village. Sure maybe tailed beast bombs weren't a thing in OG days because they probably weren't thought of at that moment.
@funloop Жыл бұрын
I still believe that Madara and Kaguya both were difficult fights for different reasons. Madara, though not as powerful as Kaguya, was a skilled fighter and thus gave both Sauske and Naruto problems. However, Kaguya was 80% brute force and overwhelmed both of them because of her power; she didn't have battle experience and had to rely on Black Zetsu for help.
@GreyLeo Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@x2567x Жыл бұрын
No cap😭she damn near a god but got cooked by sexy jutsu
@pueohoot543 Жыл бұрын
Madara to this day is just Built Different
@furiousdestroyah9999 Жыл бұрын
Madara definitely does better against Naruto and Sasuke than Kaguya, she may be pretty and strong but she doesn't have much going on up there
@sampalace358 Жыл бұрын
@@GreyLeo madara does make a single big brained play the entire war**, he’s literally brute forcing his way to godhood. Hell he even loses his eyes and pulls out susanoo and biju chains without eyes in his sockets 😂😂😂 dude brute forced his own doujutsu and the entire shinobi world
@dalton9636 Жыл бұрын
One thing about Kinshiki’s level of strength: one line in Boruto where he’s about to transform into a chakra fruit for Momoshiki, he states “just as my guardian has done for me, I now will become power for you” or something like that essentially stating kinshiki wasn’t just a sacrifice but just the lesser between Momoshiki and himself
@DynastyDemand Жыл бұрын
Foreshadowing being that Boruto is the better out of Kawaki whilst Kawaki is literally a ninja tool cyborg mutant alien hybrid human. The perfect asset for an upper ranked otsotsuki like Boruto.
@crimsonhunter7598 Жыл бұрын
@@DynastyDemandso you think kawaki will be sacrificed
@DynastyDemand Жыл бұрын
@@crimsonhunter7598 it’s being so heavily foreshadowed in Sasuke being eaten by a claw grime.
@HC-gm4fo Жыл бұрын
It’s what Momoshiki will do for Boruto once he finds true Otsutsuki pride Kinshiki is Momoshiki Guardian and is stronger than Momo overall
@Nigga2155 Жыл бұрын
@@DynastyDemand no isshiki himself is a higher rank is stronger than momoshiki and kinshiki and he is stronger than both of them 10x with just jigen
@ThraxNoir9 ай бұрын
So much lore, so much math so many words being spoke so fast and I absolutely love it all of your pages are amazing keep winning homie
@seambunthayarat4370 Жыл бұрын
Kaguya switching dimensions is like changing TV channels
@TrueMachwind Жыл бұрын
I feared the day would come when I see this video and title, boruto powerscaling go brrrr man. Madara will always be my GOAT- straight up personification of power
@_------------_ Жыл бұрын
Facts, And Momo is mine 🔥
@SpammytheHedgehog Жыл бұрын
Madara tried to save us from Boruto but Naruto and Zetsu ruined it.
@SecretMarsupial Жыл бұрын
The smooth-brained boruto hate is just cringe at this point. Just wear a sign saying you dont have your own opinions
@CristanioPeweyyy Жыл бұрын
@@SecretMarsupialHe just doesn't like Boruto. That's his opinion.
@mekpagilihassana9704 Жыл бұрын
Actually I like boruto right now but I just had to like that comment😂😂😂
@Mustache99 Жыл бұрын
@@SecretMarsupiali mean for me boruto feels less engaging than Naruto and boruto villains feels flat and boring, i mean code was stomped and diserepected as a villain
@Im.Hayato873 Жыл бұрын
Cry about it loser 😂
@ImMrRev Жыл бұрын
I think Madara has the same issues as Naruto and Sasuke in the war arc. If Naruto and Sasuke got stronger by getting used to their power after the war arc why wouldn't Madara get stronger as well by getting used to his power ups as well. I think personally Madara has more potential to get stronger than both Naruto and Sasuke because at this point in time he has both if not more of all their powers. Madara by the time of Boruto would be stronger.
@coolwaterbirds11 ай бұрын
He did not eat a chakra fruit but BECAME THE CHAKRA TREE.. 2 rinnegans, 1 rinnesharingan, perfect HASHIRAMA sage mode, Hashirama cells for healing factor and Nature Chakra absorption.. Ten tails jinchuuriki... EMS, Uchiha genius, IDK how can people cope so hard with Boruto characters.. Madara is clearly even above Isshiki, yeah i said it. Its just all plot.. Madara was PRIME up to now.
@zaoshikung275610 ай бұрын
@coolwaterbirds yah I feel you. It annoys me how we went from badguys like madara to dudes like isshiki. Like dude can make things big or small super fast and could use pains rods or put someone in a seal coffin woohoo he was basically an otsutsuki nagato without almighty push/pull but somehow he's way stronger than mister hack face madara or dimension making/shifting and gravity manipulating kaguya(she had way more hacks but those were her main things) 😂. Like I get it plot but dang bro dude coulda came up with way better abilities for the new big bads.
@milanpunmagar93978 ай бұрын
you mean momoshiki who is from main branch of otsutsuki and whose hole existence is about planting scared tree and eat when mature is lesser than madara? didnt kaguya also had same as madara with extra enhance form but lost ? and was mentioned later her threat level was lower than momshiki and ishiki. say u like madara no need to overpraised him.. @@coolwaterbirds
@j_official41388 ай бұрын
@@milanpunmagar9397 momoshiki was fodder naruto and sasuke didn't even have to go all out to beat him 💀
@madaraatv23747 ай бұрын
@@coolwaterbirdsthanks bro I love you
@jean77andre Жыл бұрын
Madara should have fought for a few episodes while showing some instability growing from within. He starts to lose power and control while the essence of Kaguya is taking over. In the meanwhile he fought team 7. That would've at least created hype for Kaguya and displayed the true power of Madara
@DrixMaloneDFS Жыл бұрын
True shii.
@GenJuhru Жыл бұрын
Kaguya shouldn't have fought at all, show a glimpse of her power but then was stopped by our heroes from fully realizing/materializing. The series last few episodes started to meander with Kaguya.
@UnravelGhoulx Жыл бұрын
Idk, that makes madara look even more like a bitch. Extending the inevitable doesn’t really help people accept Kaguya because now she not only used this dude as a tool, she made this dude lose control.
@jean77andre Жыл бұрын
@@UnravelGhoulx I agree with you to am extent, but there is no un-bitching Madara. He got stabbed in the back. The human embodiment of natural energy was taken out by surprise attack!
@jean77andre Жыл бұрын
@@GenJuhru I know my friend. I didn't like it either but fantasizing about better endings takes out the bitter taste of betrayal Kishimoto unleashed upon our world
@DamianMaisano Жыл бұрын
On the Kakashi note: I bet that he actually only developed that extremely powerful mud wall after The Last (there’s like 16 years between it and his novel after all) to be able to stop something like the meteor. He probably only got stronger over time of being Hokage
@crimsonhunter7598 Жыл бұрын
yes probably he still had all the jutsu and Elements after he lost the sharingan
@ralphjeune4678 Жыл бұрын
I watched the video from Naruto explained, it makes sense but I have an opposing theory. When Obito told Naruto about the chakra requirements to travel to Kaguya 's dimension, I think it's because he is using a Sharingan to follow through portals opened by a rinnegan. I think there is a difference between rinnegan and karma dimensions and the kamui dimension. That's why Madara needed to steal kakashy's Sharingan to find Obito and Sakura while he has a rinnegan.
@orpheemulemo8053 Жыл бұрын
Sasuke in shippuden couldn't also open portals through kaguyas demension so he needed amenoteji kara and in the fight when kaguya was moving her demension we even hear her complaining about Chakra cost and she had a rennesharingan
@arinzechukwuonyekwuluje2218 Жыл бұрын
No ne needed to steal kakashi kamui bc that eye had the ability to travel dimensions , Madara can't travel dimensions
@6JoyBoy9 Жыл бұрын
you need to train REALLY hard to be able to use spacetime ninjutsu with rinnegan like sasuke did madra was never as strong with the rinnegan than adult sasuke
@leovieira374811 ай бұрын
@@arinzechukwuonyekwuluje2218 mesmo que madara pudesse, a dimensão do kamui só pode ser acessada com o uso exclusivo do doujutsu
@arinzechukwuonyekwuluje221811 ай бұрын
@@leovieira3748 I don't understand your language
@73527 Жыл бұрын
This is gonna get lost but here's some details Eida eyes are a crescent moon. Daemon eyes are a half moon. Boruto joegan is like a full moon. Saradas mongekyo is a sun.
@chavezhomie2607 Жыл бұрын
Damn 😢 the fact that naruto sasuke and Sakura all touched kuguya with team work like the did when they all got the bells 🔔 😢from the start
@galactichero_yt Жыл бұрын
I love Madara he’s my favorite character in all of Naruto
@snakecage Жыл бұрын
Same
@divineeternity7268 Жыл бұрын
He's definitely my top 5.
@user-xw4mu6nz4t Жыл бұрын
I'm interested to why you even commented this
@Plu-ws9xt5 ай бұрын
Same
@arrahman8143 ай бұрын
Madara is like a new osutshiki in his base in the 4th great ninja war.
@dragonryuuza Жыл бұрын
So just a quick thought: Didn't Itachi have his Amaterasu in his right eye? What if you gain the Mangekyo abilities of your sibling when you absorb their eyes? This would effectively mean that Sasuke's right eye has both Amaterasu *and* Kagutsuchi, while his left has a backup copy of Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi. Actually, Sasuke having access to Tsukiyomi could also explain why he was able to provide protection from the Infinite Tsukiyomi. No evidence for it, but just spitballing. :D
@nilzoncordon6801 Жыл бұрын
I like the way you spitball, good sir
@thelion1366 Жыл бұрын
There is no actual evidence to suggest that and EMS user has both abilities. Sasuke never used Tsukuyomi, and we never knew Madara or Izuna's abilities. I'm pretty sure the two ability thing is a Head Cannon.
@LupineShadowOmega Жыл бұрын
@@thelion1366 It isn't head canon, he literally started the statement with What If? As in it was a theory he was considering and thus brought up for others to consider.
@spbot2 Жыл бұрын
What if naruto could use sage mode. It's not head cannon anymore. I used "what if" so now it's a theory apparently.😂
@spbot2 Жыл бұрын
@thelion1366 but seriously. The head cannon is that ems does not give you the abilities of the other, sasuke just has amatarasu naturally. Itachi just sealed 1 use if amatarasu in sasuke's eye, but the reason of that is not because someone said what if😂
@rognavaldrtheskald6652 Жыл бұрын
Miss opportunity for the thumb nail to say Madara is foddera
@azrael_pendragon Жыл бұрын
I feel like your under estimating momoshiki. He lost due to being over whelmed by ninja techniques, similar to kaguya he didn't know wtf transformation or anything like that is. Black zetsu helped kaguya understand but Momoshiki had to improvise. He had to adapt to them using sneaky techniques. That and you mentioned that he only got a edge after katatskay (science guy) gave him a bunch of Ninjutsu, but that was shown to not even be the main issue as the guy was shown to have hidden chakra pills anyway. Sasuke was also gonna die if naruto didn't save him which shows that they cant defeat him individually, only as a duo. And Boruto being there was also a wildcard due to him having the vanishing rasengan which momoshiki can't see.
@marv51 Жыл бұрын
Yeah no, the novel blatantly states that he’s RELATIVE to them INDIVIDUALLY, while they’re nerfed. That’s all you need to get Naruto and Sasuke > Momo
@nagatouzumaki4047 Жыл бұрын
Momoshiki was weaker then madara.
@azrael_pendragon Жыл бұрын
@@nagatouzumaki4047 adult sasuke and Naruto individually> juubidaara
@nagatouzumaki4047 Жыл бұрын
Adult sasuke has nothing on the war arc version -Missing a arm -Is rusty -lacks a rinnegan -has poor visual feats And many more l's that make him weaker then his past selves
@Zeno1781 Жыл бұрын
@@nagatouzumaki4047 💀 Base adult sasuke and naruto even without their powers are stronger than Naruto(from the last). That naruto from his movie one shots toneri who was said multiple times over to be stronger than kaguya. Sasuke in the novels when he is around 19 years of age said he is confident he could fondle kaguya level threats(he didnt say that but he was confident he could win).
@anialator1000000 Жыл бұрын
The only qualm i have is that there is a huge issue with assuming jutsu always cost the exact same amount of chakra, rather than the more realistic version where as you get better at using it then you are more efficient and thus it costs less chakra to do the same thing. Naruto supposedly had something like 4x as much chakra as Kakshi, and with half of kurama, 100x. This is according to Kakashi himself. Meanwhile, Sasuke's supposed limit for Chidori was 2 times a day or so, and trying to do it 3 would literally kill him, and the same with Naruto when he first learned the Rasen Shuriken. These things clearly were never really true, but it seems more like a retcon for power scaling. The fact that Kishimoto designed the system at least pre timeskip has some meaning though. Especially since post timeskip is still mostly following this logic until the war. In the end, it seems far more likely that adult Sasuke doesn't have more chakra than Sage of six paths Naruto (including half of Kurama), but rather he has gotten 10 or 100x more efficient at using his (significantly bigger than as a kid) chakra pool. Obito also literally never opened portals to other dimensions before either, so I think its just more about skill and efficiency that can be overcome with wasteful excesses of chakra.
@ExcuseMyWeebRudeness6 ай бұрын
To further your point, something else worth noting is that initially, Naruto was hurting himself while performing RasenShuriken, but ever since mastery that was never an issue. It is more realistic to say that with higher mastery means that it cost less chakra-up to a reasonable point. There is a good reason why both Naruto and Boruto series have harped on getting the basic control of chakra down and constantly training it. There’s also the lack of hand seals needed by Sasuke to perform things like Chidori(and stream) along with some fire style jutsu.
@srikargovindarajula3 ай бұрын
37:16 Wrong, Toneri fought Kurama Sage Mode Naruto, NOT Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto (as shown by the pigmentation under his eyes) meaning he didn’t fight Naruto’s strongest form
@TrueVibesMusic Жыл бұрын
man talks so confidently that's why it sounds like he knows what he talking about lol
@Just_Tet Жыл бұрын
Literally one of ur best videos and it’s not even close. I couldn’t have said much better. The way u connecedtee the dots and made certain jumps and comparisons was perfect. Usually there’s a few things I can disagree with but everytime I was talking to myself to make a point u would make that exact point. Also the lack of bias is always so nice. 10/10 lol
@Sueiei2973711 ай бұрын
I will disagree with him. Literally it was never stated that Sasuke became as strong as Kaguya. Sasuke just said he will protect world even if he will face kaguya level threats. Which means that he will just give his all, not that he is as strong as Kaguya. I will scale his strength to 25% strength of Kaguya. Cause we can scale adult Naruto to Toneri, Toneri is descendant of Hamura, and Hamura possess 25% strength of Kaguya. 10 tails is 50% strength of initial Kaguya. and Hagoromo maybe 35% due to reason he awakened full 6 paths. So by calculations Madara probably had 60-70% power of initial Kaguya, cause of 6paths, being indra reincarnation and 10 tails. So none of the adult versions of Sasuke and Naruto are beating Madara. Even Baryon mode, cause Madara has limbos and he can literally heal half of his body.
@CervixKing6 ай бұрын
@@Sueiei29737naruto beat toneri with kcm2 only,so no,he doesnt scale to toneri.He scales wayy above toneri
@thesourpatchkidd579 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool of Kishimoto to do one more retcon and actually make Hashirama a perfect slug sage. This would mean Tsundae and Skaura would be imperfect slug sages, and then Sarada could also become a perfect slug sage, finally merging the Senju and the Uchiha like the first Hokage always dreamed as the future Hokage.
@DrixMaloneDFS Жыл бұрын
No...
@crimsonhunter7598 Жыл бұрын
hashirama was probably monkey sage
@bread-bz3zh Жыл бұрын
that would be awesome
@Nigga215511 ай бұрын
no sarada is useless fake uchiha there is no point of tainting hashirama for sarada fake uchiha
@didack141910 ай бұрын
Why would that mean that Tsunade and Sakura are imperfect slug sages?
@about7grams Жыл бұрын
Madara: "i used the moon as a conduit to cast the world into genjutsu" Toneri: "ooooooh shit i hope you weren't planning on doing that again, i accidentally broke the moon"
@kcwexe Жыл бұрын
Nah, he literally casually moved the moon as he fought Naruto
@austinmccon2759 Жыл бұрын
That dbz moment where they blow up the moon
@kcwexe Жыл бұрын
@@austinmccon2759 Blowing up the moon is less of an actual feat than moving it casually
@L_______ Жыл бұрын
good thing he should be able to make a new one considering hagoromo when he should be weaker could create it and madara should have more chakra then that as he was approaching a stronger hagoromo then the one who made the moon or beat kaguya also 3 eyed madara should be able to pretty casualy beat kaguya as hagoromo is less skilled then madara as a fighter plus what i already said and even more so cuz the kaguya hagoromo beat should be stronger than the one naruto and sasuke beat this should also go with momoshiki even fused im talking 3 eyed madara
@TimXMan1000 Жыл бұрын
People underestimate how strong Toneri was and how much stronger Naruto became post war. He one punched toneri a guy who’s stronger than Jubito and had unlimited truth seeking orbs
@Madarax1337 Жыл бұрын
Ironically Madara does his best against the strongest Otsutsuki Isshiki because he can't see or shrink his limbo clones However Madara's limbo clones used Susanoo to shield him against Sasuke as he was dealing with Tobirama's mouth needle, and again against Sakura Naruto and Sasuke after he got his second eye. You can see the invisible shield in the anime at least
@evanc5656 Жыл бұрын
Can he not sense them? He has what is basically so6p chakra does he not?
@Dravennnn2502 Жыл бұрын
@@evanc5656 only an otsusuki but haven't got a so6p chakra.
@arclight7892 Жыл бұрын
@@Dravennnn2502an otsutsuki is a higher tier than so6p. Shibai is currently the new so6p or a god like character in boruto.
@Dravennnn2502 Жыл бұрын
@@arclight7892 yes but the so6p is a unique chakra only obtained by training in which only hagoromo is the only otsutsuki did it and shown on the anime.
@HomeCookinMTG Жыл бұрын
@@Dravennnn2502 "Shown in the anime" You mean in the flashbacks? The ones that were filler?
@nobodyknowsforsure11 ай бұрын
I'd say Madara is not getting destroyed especially because of his battle tactics and how he adapts quickly. I don't think he'd get one shotted and when he understands the scope of his opponent he'd give them hell.
@gytis321s211 ай бұрын
Naruto lost the Kurama, Sasuke lost his Eye, Guy lost his legs... Nothing in Boruto can stop Madara...
@MrCrashCourse8 ай бұрын
That's true 😂
@IIIC3YLOCO Жыл бұрын
I truly don’t see it as a plot twist. We are suppose to be able to empathize with madara. Imagine, all the hard work it took and the true belief of “for the greater good” was why he did this all. To have that taken away when you basically believe you achieved you’re goal, is probably one of the saddest things in anime.
@orpheemulemo8053 Жыл бұрын
Karma was literally a bitch to Madara for all the lives and people he killed
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
Saddest? Madara was a piece of ****** Good freaking riddance to him.
@redbool1115 Жыл бұрын
He got what he fucking deserved 😭
@student40008 Жыл бұрын
@arrownoir True but Light Yagami is so much worse 😂😊
@rossjones8656 Жыл бұрын
@@student40008and that doesn't make Madara a piece of shit? Why does a guy with a dealy note book make Mafara a better guy? Why do people even do stuff like this?
@madaraatv23747 ай бұрын
Literally the only reason why we assume Naruto and sasuke or the otsotsuki’s are stronger than madara is because of the statement that sasuke can deal with a kaguya threat, which have shown to have translation and interpretation issues. Without that there is not one proof that shows that madara would struggle in boruto. As we said madara 3 rinnegans has more than Naruto and sasuke’s powers combined. You are saying Naruto and sasuke are way weaker than this form of madara and they closed this gap because of the experience and the time but why don’t you apply the same logic to madara considering he has, as I said more than both of their powers combined ? And don’t say he already had most of them before because he didn’t. Madara before getting reincarnated had only mastered his EMS but other than that all the other powers he gets he have them for a couple of hours like Naruto and sasuke. Even with your (in my opinion not correct) logic madara should still be at least way stronger than them both in boruto if not even more. In terms of feat you can assume what you want but boruto is either very bad at showing off powers or it is incredibly overrated. Madara’s feats are way bigger and his potential is even bigger. Even the war arc madara that we’ve seen didn’t show half the abilities that he normally had. Let’s say that Naruto and sasuke are stronger at the end when they are fighting against each other at full power are stronger than themselves during the fight against 1 rinnegan madara for example. That just equals the powers that madara didn’t use and was holding back for plot reasons I assume. So the gap would be the same at the end because they were all 3 didn’t used to their new powers. In conclusion, madara is clearly stronger than both Naruto and sasuke (during their fight). Madara naruto and sasuke then learn how to use their new powers and glow up a lot and knowing madara has more than both of them in terms of powers he should logically still be clearly stronger than them both together. Which implies that madara is around ishiki level if not stronger. I’m in the team that thinks kaguya is stronger than any otsutsuki we’ve seen so far and for me madara is stronger than her. Kaguya didn’t use anything apart from her bones. 80% of her powers and fighting still is brut force and chakra in the other hand madara is an experienced warrior who fought since the day he was born. He has way more experience in battle and skills than her which makes him stronger, he have powers that he uses correctly and knows them well. He has abilities she don’t have and he himself have almost all her powers. Madara is in a way a combination of kaguya (rinnesharingan) and hagoromo (juubi jinchuriki and double rinnegans). He is stronger than her which makes him stronger than anyone we’ve seen so far in boruto. I know that it is a take that even 1% of the community will not share but it’s definitely not crazy to say that because there is not 1 proof that contradicts it. Actually if you watch closely it tends to be believable but I guess we will never know for sure
@SampleWork-fd2de4 ай бұрын
Facts bro
@G973_2 ай бұрын
There's a statement that kaguya was scared of the otsutsuki - in this case, referring to kinshiki and momoshiki - which is the reason she started farming people on the god tree. While it may look like momoshiki is fodder because naruto and sasuke dealt with him with ease, it's generally accepted that their peak wasn't actually at the fight against kaguya, but a bit more after that and before naruto became stuck in a desk job. If you're looking for feats for this, base naruto with some chakra from kurama on his hand deflected an attack that split the moon in half. General gist is boruto naruto is stronger than kaguya fight naruto, despite the lack of explosions and country level attacks in the show.
@MadaraSama022 ай бұрын
Remove bindings and limitations from Madara and then we see who is superior.
@jazzonation79872 ай бұрын
Tbh kaguya being worried enough to create an army for counter measures makes sense, cause unless you're stupid or arrogant you'd want to be prepared to deal any type of nonsense or threat no matter how great or insignificant. Like imagine if she didn't try making any preparations, everything is fine, peaceful, then BAM alien invasion on sight lmao idc how strong you are you losing that battle and due to lack of awareness or preparation, you dying and your people dying too. Feat wise kaguya gets it, battle wise madara owns it. Madara is exactly the soldier kaguya needed to take out the Otsutsuki.
@madaraatv23742 ай бұрын
@@jazzonation7987 since we’ve seen madara fight only in his weakest form of jinchuriki + the fact that he didn’t even fought at full power the fight lasted 15 seconds then yes I guess we don’t have any choice but to give kaguya the feats but imagine a full power madara at his best… with the second rinnegan, obito said it was literally over for them and they will have no chance when he knew about sasuke, Naruto, kakashi, obito himself, minato the hokages etc etc… that just confirms what madara said about the boost that occurs when you have your second eye, not twice stronger but even more than that. I agree with what you said btw and for me madara was just not used correctly. If the author wanted to make him lose or die and if he was too strong to be defeated then he should have let madara use all his power and capacity when he was reincarnated with double rinnegan. That version of him would have gave us an amazing battle and could have gone all out and lose like a real warrior and not in a dumb way like the author chose to do him because we can say whatever, madara was far from being at full power. We’ve seen him power up like 5-6 times and didn’t show nothing of his strength during all those transformations
@winniethejroo Жыл бұрын
momoshiki died from big balls to the face 😂😂😂
@Agent-wp3yi Жыл бұрын
Maybe Madara purposly allowed Sasuke to cut him in half so it would be easier for him to teleport inside Kamui dimension.
@adamkowalski6061 Жыл бұрын
He definitely did that. He wanted to kamui himself and didn't care whether Sasuke cuts him in the process or not because he will just regenerate. I thought that was obvious.
@madaraatv23747 ай бұрын
@@adamkowalski6061me too, it was clearly obvious knowing that madara saw him coming far before getting hit and he easily reacted to minato sage mode + kakashi kamui and gaara sand at the same time while having 1 rinnegan and just turned into the jinchuriki and didn’t even absorbed the divin tree. Madara’s reaction speed feats are above anything we’ve seen considering he dodged attacks faster than light speed, like tobirama from behind with an teleportation jutsu and same with minato as I already said. When he dodged to tobirama from behind he had 1 rinnegan and wasn’t even the jinchuriki at that time. I agree sasuke is fast but he is not near minato or tobirama instant transmission speed, which madara easily dodged. Madara was definitely trying to go to the kamui dimension and just didn’t care about sasuke or his attack that would not kill him anyway
@drgali72303 ай бұрын
I believe madara is at the level of momoshiki Guys the Naruto they spoke about had a hard time from Uchiha shin and also Sasuke And Sasuke had a hard time against kinshiki and he had to run from that dimension before he ran out of chakra The same kinshiki that got handled by the hokages What I believe is that madara is at the lvl of fused momoshiki And can also handle himself against ishiki if the plot will give him a bit of baryon mode abilities But for some reason the story made ishiki so busted in power
@ferdiman7694Ай бұрын
Yes youre right, i think him just a bit stronger then Momo. But prime Isshiki is an different level
@l0rd_grim340 Жыл бұрын
Also at the End another reason why I think Sasuke post nerf would lose to Madara is him not being able to see limbo clones anymore since he was only able to see them with his Rinnegan and he does not have it anymore nor does he have some form of sage mode to sense them.
@crimsonhunter7598 Жыл бұрын
yes true
@Nigga215511 ай бұрын
bruh post nerf sasuke aint touching ems madara lol
@kumarayush995011 ай бұрын
@@Nigga2155 He absolutely bodies any Madara who doesn't have a Juubi
@BrightNights6455 ай бұрын
@@kumarayush9950Rinnegan Madara with no 10 tails would still have Limbo and Harshirama Sage Mode. Sasuke without the Rinnegan doesn’t stand a chance.
@kumarayush99505 ай бұрын
@@BrightNights645 Sasuke has been shown to sense Momoshiki's presence without the Rinnegann so I wouldn't put it past him just yet, most of his abilities are still unknown
@TheKingOfHarrtz Жыл бұрын
i think madara would have beat everyone by his intelligence and ability to plan on the fly
@qwirkt Жыл бұрын
Sasuke showing up in Boruto with a reincarnated Kurama sealed on his belly would be kinda hype ngl
@phiefer3 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I agree with the assessment that pre-nerf Naruto's own personal chakra was only around as much as Kurama's chakra. I would say that Naruto's personal chakra had to be significantly higher than Kurama's chakra. Because if they were even in the same ballpark as eachother, then that would mean that after Baryon mode burned through Kurama, that Naruto would basically be running on empty. It wouldn't matter how much he improved his toad sage mode, he wouldn't be able to make very much senjutsu chakra without having chakra of his own to mix with the nature energy. The fact that post-nerf Naruto thought that he was even remotely relevant means that Kurama's chakra was only a small portion of what he had access to. My guess would put Naruto at having about 3x as much chakra as Kurama, which would mean that post-nerf Naruto has about half as much chakra as he did before, which feels like a more likely level of nerf.
@HC-gm4fo Жыл бұрын
Naruto was never in danger of dying in Baryon Mode because Kurama lied about how it works.
@justadogthatsvibing9694 Жыл бұрын
@@HC-gm4fo Baryon Mode works by clashing the host and the Jinchuriki's chakras against each other. Similar to Nuclear Fusion where Hydrogen atoms clash in very high temperatures to create energy. And we know, if you run completely out of chakra, you die. Thats how Kurama dies. Naruto and Kurama kept clashing their chakras to create insanely high amounts of energy to defeat Isshiki. But since Kurama dies, Naruto must have considerably more chakra than Kurama because he was still good to go after Baryon Mode had ended.
@HC-gm4fo Жыл бұрын
@@justadogthatsvibing9694 Naruto doesn’t have anywhere close to the full nine tails chakra. Naruto didn’t die because the tech kills the Jin and not the host. The first explain Kurama used was disingenuous purposely so Naruto would go along with it. Your also assuming its a perfect 1:1 ratio
@tek512 Жыл бұрын
@@HC-gm4fo Not only is it rather strongly implied the mix wasn't a 1:1 ratio, it's made pretty obvious Kurama intentionally dumped more of his own chakra into it to protect Naruto from the consequences of using the technique. Kurama did say he never lied to Naruto, which would mean the baryon mode *could* have killed them both. Kurama simply deigned it not to be, at the cost of his very existence. He would eventually have come back from a normal death, but spending *all* of his chakra like that lead him to a very permanent end.
@Agent_Apostle Жыл бұрын
@@HC-gm4fowhy do you assume this? It’s also implied that the uzamaki clan has access to the largest pools of chakra which Naruto is an uzamaki some of yall just be trying to downplay. Not to mention Naruto also had access to nature chakra due tot the mastery of sage mode. So how is it not even close?
@chanceromance7120 Жыл бұрын
Man, I love that outro music🔥🖤
@antidepressantscale4675 Жыл бұрын
How could he say that about my goat..dammit...
@edo._danny2213 Жыл бұрын
Yes. He is. Prime Kaguya, Prime Hagaromo, Teen SOSP Naruto/Sasuke, Toneri, Adult Naruto/Sasuke, Momoshiki, Isshiki, Current Code, Current Kawaki, Current Boruto all curbstomp Madara/Juubi-Madara
@BlaxkSun Жыл бұрын
I se dygoknight punching the air right now 😂
@JuanPerez-ru5qt3 ай бұрын
Imagine forgetting how to ride a bike. Thats boruto in a nutshell.
@joelsasmad Жыл бұрын
Imma say this. Madara beats Code. Code has no Rinnegan or access to Senjutsu Chakra. He would bot be able to counter the Limbo clones
@azrael_pendragon Жыл бұрын
His karma might allow him to sense the limbo clones tho. Considering that boruto with karma was able to sense kawaki who has rhe Otsutsuki abilitiy of masking chakra completely
@azrael_pendragon Жыл бұрын
Damn didn't know you knew of naruto explained. He's the only other naruto/boruto KZbinr i watch
@ahsenwaseem3263 Жыл бұрын
Lol same!
@Legan991 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how strong a Madara is who had time to train his new abilities after 3 Rinnegan power amp
@mecahhannah Жыл бұрын
Awesome as always thanks
@kittypastries2880 Жыл бұрын
I have a question, when edo tensei Madara have the rinnegan does that make it a synthetic version of the rinnegan/six paths powers?
@JakeHunter-ed4zv Жыл бұрын
Maybe it is the case, because it seems familiar with shin uchiha Ms which is a synthetic version of the sharingan. How come orochimaru didn't make a body for himself that posses a synthetic version of six paths chakra?
@MurreStone11 ай бұрын
7:00 Nagato was struggeling and had to conzentrate hisself the entire time. Madara just pooped the black sphere out of the hand.
@God_Is_An_Atheist Жыл бұрын
I doubt that Sasuke has more chakra than Naruto, even after the death of Kurama. During the training for the Rasenshuriken, Kakashi says that Naruto has about 4 times more chakra than he does and about 100 times more when you add Kurama's chakra. Maybe Sasuke has more chakra than Kakashi, but not 4 times more. He's not an Uzumaki.
@brianjohnston7466 Жыл бұрын
That’s not at all what Kakashi says. He states that while Naruto is actively surprising Kurama Naruto still has access to 4 times that of Kakashi. Kakashi also states that if he wasn’t suppressing Kurama then Naruto on his own has 100 times that of Kakashi.
@lbanepa Жыл бұрын
Ashura inherited body of Hagoromo and Indra received eyes. Ashura has more chakra and Indra has more quality chakra
@candydoge931711 ай бұрын
why clowns dont read ? kakashi literally said naruto's chakra is 100x than him if he isnt suppressing kurama's chakra lol if u add naruto+kurama=almost &
@taetae9296 Жыл бұрын
Id like to see a part two of making the most powerful children made with different ships, Although its still your choice, its just a suggestion.
@Hawkwood96 Жыл бұрын
I do think that half of Madara's popularity comes from his insane drip as well as the fact that his end goal was to essentially place the world in an isekai lol
@Nigga2155 Жыл бұрын
nah he was just him
@tylerduplessis1180 Жыл бұрын
I have an idea for a theory video, what if Uchihas MS and EMS abilities have something to do with what trauma they experienced to awaken them, example is Obitos kamui. He got it when he saw Kakashi impale Rin. So he awakens kamui so that nothing could ever impale or harm him. And possibly the other Uchihas MS's could follow the same type of theme
@RobloxGuardian Жыл бұрын
I have a suggestion, the videos are a bit too long, you repeat a lot of things too, maybe be more concise to the title. I like your vids btw, just a kind suggestion 😉
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Жыл бұрын
He just wants a long video for the algorithm
@CristanioPeweyyy Жыл бұрын
He talks himself into holes aswell, he makes sense then starts to make no sense. Bro said Sasuke might have more chakra than Naruto, it was confirmed in the anime that Naruto only lost his "supernatural chakra" meaning his six paths and tailed beast chakra. Even then if you go by lore, his six paths before it was retconned, he would of still had it lol.
@jameshollister8294 Жыл бұрын
That's why I skip alot of click bait videos this is one because bit don't matter
@Pnthrx Жыл бұрын
I was eagerly waiting for this to come up.
@azrael_pendragon Жыл бұрын
Madara: moon reflection 😊 Toneri: what moon 👁️👄👁️
@Nigga2155 Жыл бұрын
he could open a portal with the rinnesharingan to reflect it off a diffrent moon or he could use six paths chibaku tensai
@azrael_pendragon Жыл бұрын
@@Nigga2155 kaguya has access to other moons. We haven't seen madara do anything like that
@Nigga2155 Жыл бұрын
@@azrael_pendragon kaguya used the rinnesharingan to open the portal so since madara has the same rinnsharingan he could do it to
@azrael_pendragon Жыл бұрын
@@Nigga2155 that's not how that works. Kaguya has been to those other places. Madara hasn't, I'm not denying he doesn't have the ability but it's not like you could just open a portal to a moon when you don't even know where that moon is.
@BrightNights6455 ай бұрын
Madara: That moon right there, the one I created. Well say cheese
@RanPlay-qg9qq Жыл бұрын
Watching the intro without volume is fxxxxx hilarious 😂 like stay still bruh
@JeffOf813 Жыл бұрын
People keep saying that naruto dodged the mouth laser, so he's faster than light, but really he dodges how fast madara turns his head...
@marv51 Жыл бұрын
False. Rewatch the fight
@Zorothex5152 Жыл бұрын
bruh literally said the same thing in a comment as well. Nick is tweaking, did you see how slow his head moved? the speed of his head was what he dodged.
@JeffOf813 Жыл бұрын
@marv51 sadly I've seen the fight to many times, also you should read your own comments, they read like your being a dick for no reason... like Dwight from the office kinda, but even shorter, he would have said "FALSE, you need to re-watch the fight" and since yours is shorter so instead of him sounding like he's right whether he is or not, you accomplish that same demeanor while also making it a command. I can understand that you don't care, but it says a lot cuz you should care.
@Bobkushington Жыл бұрын
Karmic rebirth adds your knowledge of fighting abilities etc. And you gain the abilities/powers knowledge/ experiences etc. Of who you place your karma on. You chakra reserves are added to theirs raising your chakra reserves, all of their knowledge and their increased power /speed/ stamina/ strength from combining the otsutsukis overall abilities added to those of the users including future potential
@joeydickerson22587 ай бұрын
Madara war arc body's everyone in boruto It's crazy that we go against someone.That did something we will never see done ever again is taken on the entire snowy world and all the past strongest shinobi and tailed beast and win The dude was blind winning His clothes could use shinsano 10 tail madara His abilities were extremely broken
@obi-wan7415 Жыл бұрын
I like madara, he cool
@jonahsampson4843 Жыл бұрын
This fact
@photocide17 Жыл бұрын
hello there
@insightsman1962 ай бұрын
Madara is one of my favorite villains of all animes, Aizen being my personal favorite and then Madara, Sorry Bleach is also my favorite Anime , Then Hunter x Hunter, One Piece, , Naruto, Pandora, fairy Tail and Demon slayer, Attack On Titan, Dragon Ball Z , Hellsing, Black Clover, Berserk, not in any order, Oh and Dgrey Man , Soul Eater and Record of The Lodus Wars , i know i am missing a few cause i have seen alot of Anime, the list could keep going
@Devils1023 Жыл бұрын
Umm didnt Sasuke absorb Narutos chakra when he punched him in the gut? They really nerfed him by never letting him use that skill ever again which would've fixed his chakra issue.
@bignoob2726 Жыл бұрын
Which Otsutsuki can be touched so casually 😂?
@Suto_Ko Жыл бұрын
yup, Sasuke did absorb some of Naruto's chakra when he punched him in the gut. This was shown in the manga and anime. Sasuke was able to use this chakra to enhance his own abilities, such as his Sharingan and Chidori. However, Sasuke never used this ability again in the series. There are a few possible explanations for this. One possibility is that Sasuke simply forgot about this ability. He was in a lot of pain after being punched by Naruto, and it is possible that he simply forgot that he had absorbed some of Naruto's chakra. Another possibility is that Sasuke was unable to control the chakra that he had absorbed. Naruto's chakra is very powerful, and it is possible that Sasuke was not able to use it effectively. Finally, it is also possible that Sasuke did not want to use Naruto's chakra. He may have seen it as a reminder of his weakness, or he may have been afraid of the negative effects that it could have on him. Whatever the reason, Sasuke never used this ability again. This is a shame, as it could have been a very useful tool for him. It would have allowed him to overcome his chakra problems and become an even more powerful ninja.
@JDWalker495 Жыл бұрын
Sasuke never used half of the rinnegan’s full moveset,just another reason why he’s the worst user
@bignoob2726 Жыл бұрын
@@JDWalker495 it's because of *who* he was fighting on screen
@livingglowstick1337 Жыл бұрын
@@JDWalker495he doesn't have the chakra todo it people like pain had insane chakra levels and btw madara also didnt use any of the abilities he used what 2 of them
@100nakpvp2Ай бұрын
Sad to say that Jubidara does not make the top 5 and perhaps not even the top 10 in Boruto... Power creep is real
@rozanoruizfiloteo8070 Жыл бұрын
I think that's why sasuke lost his rinnegan because its useless against the power scaling of boruto. I think code's claw grime that has rinnegan is par or stronger than the rinnegan of madara and nagato. Because it was comes from a juubi itself.
@evanc5656 Жыл бұрын
Amenotejikara is literally top 5 strongest abilities in the universe. The amount of utility it provides is insane, and because otsutsuki absorb ninjutsu, utility is the most important thing to have against them. Mix that with the six paths of pain abilities, dimensional travel (boruto wouldnt be a show if it wasnt for sasuke’s inter dimensional travel), and INSANE power boost that the rinnegan grants, it may as well be top 3.. U crazy…
@nagatouzumaki4047 Жыл бұрын
The juubi is weak
@nagatouzumaki4047 Жыл бұрын
Shino defeated a juubi clone
@Nigga2155 Жыл бұрын
actually madara had a rinnesharingan which is superior to every other dojutsu
@Nigga2155 Жыл бұрын
and his rinnegan was made by recreating hagoromo rinnegan and we all no hagoromo himself is stronger than ten tails and had more chakra than it
@catchfirecomics Жыл бұрын
Now, what if Sasuke speed-blitzes Madara and yanks out one of his Rinnegan to implant it in himself?
@itachitheeggmakerramenguys5926 Жыл бұрын
If he does return I feel like Madara could take codes 10 tails which is weak but considering the amount of plot holes in the war arc he'd probably do smth to get the 10 tails to full power making him stronger than he was in the war. Since the 10 tails in the war wasn't a full 10 tails if Kishimoto wanted him to be stronger, and now that Madara has a full 10 tails he might get a 9 tome rinnesharingan which might get him to Kaguya level or stronger than Kaguya since Kaguya had a 9 tome. There would probably be something that happens in the story to make him the strongest villain. Maybe he would get the karma of an Otsutsuki making him a lot stronger again and maybe from him using it in the first battle he has with it, it would speed up the otsutsukification and by the next battle they have he'd be full Otsutsuki. And that would make him stronger than he was before he became an Otsutsuki. So an Madara as an Otsutsuki with a karma, 10 tails, dual rinnegan, and a 9 tome rinnesharingan would definitely be at least high rank Otsutsuki level and would probably be planetary since I think the high rank Otsutsuki are planetary but I'm not 100% sure if thats how strong they are but I do remember seeing that somewhere.
@CristanioPeweyyy Жыл бұрын
Mate, Kurama is planetary lol. Scale them from Kurama. Kurama dogs alof of these characters.
@HC-gm4fo Жыл бұрын
Codes ten tail wasn’t weak. It wiped an entire planet already
@Nigga215511 ай бұрын
@@HC-gm4fo that was madaras ten tails that did it not codes and it seems that codes ten tails never had a chakra fruit so madaras ten tails is stronger than codes ten tails
@_------------_6 ай бұрын
@@Nigga2155Because that was a baby tentails, but don't matter since now it transformed in Op dudes.
@TheRichmaster24 Жыл бұрын
i like how you demonstrate the scaling
@Mustache99 Жыл бұрын
Also we never saw what madara's six tomei rinnegan could do, sasuke's allowed him to switch place so who knows what madara could have gotten
@robwilson4037 Жыл бұрын
He had 9 Tomoe, not 6
@Mustache99 Жыл бұрын
@@robwilson4037 i think kaguya has 9 and Madara 6 could be wrong still we don't know what ability he could have gotten
@Nigga2155 Жыл бұрын
that was a rinnesharingan supireor to sasuke six tome rinnegan
@Zfles Жыл бұрын
God damn thank god he’s back. It doesn’t matter if he plays chess.
@fredsmith9342 Жыл бұрын
Ik you don’t really try to debate characters from different anime’s but I think it’d be cool if you made a video of what bounty you think certain Naruto characters would have in one piece.
@Mustache99 Жыл бұрын
He once stated that comparing characters between animes Is preatty much usless
@BarthDGreat Жыл бұрын
Yes this would really be a very good video to make
@unclefred3128 Жыл бұрын
@@Mustache99 DEATH BATTLE sweats nervously and hides.....
@AtelierGod Жыл бұрын
@@Mustache99if he was comparing characters sure, but the guy is just asking what their bounties would be.
@MegaSupernowa Жыл бұрын
Comparing characters between anime is an exercise in nonsense. Different power scales, differen power systems. Right of the bat just to show you how dumb that is, any logia type in one piece slaps everyone in whole Naruto and boruto universe because they can't use haki. The end.
@samanthahunter4176 Жыл бұрын
Nick, great video as always! A much needed break from Paramedic school homework😂❤
@olivergacu295 Жыл бұрын
The boruto era is just that strong, the power creeps is crazy in boruto, we have new myths like shibayi who is the myth of boruto like Hagoromo was which is crazy, and this shows how crazy powerful the era is, shibayi powered himself enough he surpassed a physical dimension without dying physically that is crazy, mean while our MC has surpassed the former MC strongest form outside Baryon mode in his base, to think that Boruto is stronger that hokage naruto strongest form outside of Baryon mode is crazy, and that’s boruto in his base, no wonder the battles nowadays are mostly taijutsu cz the attack power of their ninjutsu would be planete busters or star level, like a rasengan that can destroy a large planete considering the fact that toneri cut the moon in half, man boruto power levels are crazy
@godlygamer2466 Жыл бұрын
Shibai?
@godlygamer2466 Жыл бұрын
You are downscaling btw, half of kurama is planetary, so is pretty much the weakest ten tails, and at one point all the tailed beasts were said to be planetary. Juubito was 4x large planetary, and Kaguya was able to destroy dimensions containing stars and planets, the Otsutsuki in Boruto are said to be Kaguya level threats, Momoshiki being the second strongest. Base momoshiki absorbed stars and planets and fused momoshiki who fused with someone stronger then Kaguya was fighting with fatigued and half chakra base Naruto for a while.
@olivergacu295 Жыл бұрын
@@godlygamer2466 damn, if that’s true then these guys are powerful, I mean I thought like alive hashirama was like island level or somewhere near tha level, and obito being like as strong as alive hashimara, and 3 eyed madara was like continental, may be kaguya was planetary. But I never imagined that kurama was planetary buster like being able to destroy a planet with one attack like those dragon ball characters, I guess am low on info.
@godlygamer2466 Жыл бұрын
@@olivergacu295 not necessarily in a single attack and since chakra is life force it may kill the average tailed beast. Though then again Kurama is like 90% of the tailed beast chakra so he might as well be a easy planet buster.
@godlygamer2466 Жыл бұрын
@@olivergacu295 and teen Naruto with 4 tails was weaker then guy and Lee in 4 gates and he could casually wreck mountains, also super durable and can heal from being gutted
@kylebaker9327 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe that line “and enough hate in his soul to put American political parties to shame” holy shite hammer, keep throwing lines like those in videos like this and you’ll be more than just THE best Naruto KZbinr you’ll be a damn good comedian too
@Some_guy_passing_by Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think introducing Madara was the worst move for the overall manga , although it entertained us for a time being. We had a lot of flashy fights for numerous chapters but the plot went down the drain . Humans pulling out asteroids is ridiculous, besides ,he had to be the person to awaken Rinnegan and put it in Nagato , he had to be the perpetrator of Rin's murder ; he could perform doujutsu without eyes , He had to take Kakashi's eyes to perform Obito's kamui and he was written so ridiculously strong that Kishi had to pull up with a bs Zetsu crap .. it's like no villain did a single thing out of their free will, hence they weren't even villains . Yes , watching him go feral was incredibly satisfying, I almost cried when he died by the side of Hashirama; but he was the biggest disservice to the entire lore , apart from Kaguya , of course.
@Nael24 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree. I can never understand how people think Madara is a good villain/character aside from him making fights be good. Let me explain I determine a good villain/character on how they affect the story and how much bullshit they pull. We go from a story about a kid who's just fighting enemies at somewhat his level to all of a sudden a man who somehow made everything happen coming back to life and doing the biggest ass-pulls you've ever seen. Madara destroyed so much of the plot of Naruto that it genuinely can't make me like the guy. He basically said Nuh-Uh to everything and everyone, and could use any ninjutsu even if it's something that wasn't even his to begin with, like a Sharingan ability that's not even his, man has his stomach cut open from a massive lava style Rasenshuriken and didn't die, yet a hand from a weaker enemy is enough to kill him and turn him into a godlike woman that we've never heard of until that moment. In my opinion, Madara is a trash character and villain and no one can convince me otherwise. If you disagree, I respect your opinion and I'm sorry for the rant, but I had to get this out.
@The_Cholosseum Жыл бұрын
I don't think you understand what comes alongside the trenches of being a antagonist Vader from Star wars is considered an enforcer and not an actual villain since Palpatine is the real villain. Madara is like Vader, his name itself sends fear down people's throats and showing up on the scene... people were afraid to even fully attack. In response to great fear, some animals will rather fight than flight. Zetsu is the actual bad guy in Naruto because nobody knew of his existence and he didn't want no problems with his older brother the sixth sage.
@student40008 Жыл бұрын
Nah Sasgay ruined the whole show 😂
@student40008 Жыл бұрын
@@The_CholosseumUh no. Vader is a villain, he's so much worse than Palps. Atleast Palpatine has a plan, Vader just kills mindlessly
@The_Cholosseum Жыл бұрын
@@student40008 that is how I know you know both about true villainy I real villain doesn’t do most of the action. Especially if they have an enforcement system that can do most of it for them. This is how most tyrannical governments are set up Palpatine orchestrated things behind the scenes for his own protection. Vader/Anakin was always doing what his master told him to do due to the restrictions his master had on him. Palp could kill him at any time since Vaders suit was built to take extra damage from his force lightning
@RossNerdyScotsman Жыл бұрын
Madara would slap those emo kids in boruto he is that guy he is imortal, he's way more experiencedand he's damn efficient and strong and kimbo was hacks. Forgot how he gave naruto and sasuke hard time even in there sage modes
@lordhuntington5704 Жыл бұрын
Fairly good scaling, however, I don't think that Naruto has lost half his Chackra. It is stated that it is destroyed by using Baryon mode but I don't thinkt that that's different to just normally using it. I couldn't find any account of him or someone else saying that he has lost his own Chackra and I think he could just regenerate it as usual after using Baryon mode. He should also still have some form of healing factor due to his Uzumaki genes.
@livingglowstick1337 Жыл бұрын
No drdtroying it means its gone kurama tells him that and its why kurama is gone forever
@lordhuntington5704 Жыл бұрын
@@livingglowstick1337He never says that in particular. The reason why Kurama is dead is because he expended all his Chackra so he died of Chackra depletion. He also said the Chackra gets destroyed but I don't see why it can't be refilled like usual. The Chackra is still leaving your body when you turn it into a fireball or a dirt wall but that doesn't shrink your total Chackra capacity so why would expending it in a different way to that. I get that the Chackra is gone but that felt more like a "breaking conservation of energy" sort of thing where Chakra can be transformed and used but not destroyed by normal means.
@livingglowstick1337 Жыл бұрын
@@lordhuntington5704you have a clear miss understanding of chakra when your chakra is destroyed your ability to make more is lessened we know this from the chakra illness itach had. We are also literally told this after kurama dies
@lordhuntington5704 Жыл бұрын
@@livingglowstick1337one of us clearly has a misunderstanding of Chackra. We can't tell if Itachi's Chackra illness destroyed his Chackra or messed it up in any other way since that illness is a really vague plot device to remove an op character. What we have been told in the manga is that Naruto is gonna be weaker now since he doesn't have access to Kurama related abilities any more, nothing else has been said about his Chackra levels. That's the entire point I'm trying to make, it's never clearly stated that he lost any of his own Chackra permanently, therefore I wouldn't assume so unless it is clearly shown or stated.
@livingglowstick1337 Жыл бұрын
@@lordhuntington5704obito literally tells sasuke itachi couldn't use his full strength because of the illness. He couldn't even creat a full sussuno which we know he had. And you should rerrad that chapter
@MysticMylesZ Жыл бұрын
I feel like Night Guy is a bit higher than island level, he's probably small moon level or satellite level.... just because he seems to become a massive object with noticeable gravity in that form
@GStar93 Жыл бұрын
I mean technically night guy hit him with enough Force to warp reality so
@SilkyJohnson625 Жыл бұрын
Also you can't assume Sasuke needs the same amount of Chakra to open a portal as anyone else. It could technically take him a fraction of the Chakra to do it, compared to Naruto, because of his specific powers
@playableelite5209 Жыл бұрын
Yea it would be like saying Obito uses that much chakra to access his dimension. I think there are way too many assumptions based on loose correlation to determine this.
@ImMrRev Жыл бұрын
I agree, plus Sasuke getting more proficent with that ability means it costs less for him to use it.
@demetriuspeoples4750 Жыл бұрын
Ive watched so many of your videos, i know the format of your cuts lmao. Out to in. Cut scene. Stable. Cut scene. In to out. Stable. Repeat
@charismaticcharles1704 Жыл бұрын
If we go based on the rule that every generation in Naruto surpasses the last Rock Lee 100% beats Madara just like Guy did because it's not crazy to believe that Rock Lee well surpassed Guy. Plus if you got a little bit of help from his suicide force watch out
@nagatouzumaki4047 Жыл бұрын
Tsunade didt surpass hashirama despite being the later generation.
@Nigga2155 Жыл бұрын
bro really said that how come hagoromo being from 1000 years ago no shinobi ever surpassed him that rule shouldent ever be used
@runeplay2 Жыл бұрын
I know its off topic, but LOVE the Togepi shirt!!!
@Stickies798 Жыл бұрын
Madara glazers are not gonna like this title lmaoo
@thmistrapillay1811 Жыл бұрын
True, but no one cares about them. They need to just accept it
@chadbrad8100 Жыл бұрын
@@thmistrapillay1811 power scaling sucks so we ain't taking it seriously anyway
@livingglowstick1337 Жыл бұрын
@@chadbrad8100it doesn't suck you just dont like it
@Stickies798 Жыл бұрын
@@chadbrad8100 we apologize that madara can’t hang with the new gen because he gets shitted on easily🥲
@nobitches_ Жыл бұрын
@@Stickies798 he solos most boruto character
@sixplumgod1457 Жыл бұрын
Kaguya was the strongest otsutsuki and Madara was gaining the power exactly like her yall need to watch back the ending
@fLAWLESS-xo2ir Жыл бұрын
agree it look like all the borrito fanboi skip naruto shippuden
@loredghost Жыл бұрын
sasuke had the option to get a free arm from the leaf but turned it down. He could have a hashirama cell arm. They kinda fixed the plot in boruto when they gave naruto a different arm because in naruto they hinted at it being hashirama cell arm. This should have given them both power ups. This could have awakened his other eye as well.
@DrixMaloneDFS Жыл бұрын
To awaken his other eye, it NEEDS to be Asura's chakra (the CURRENT incarnation). So how would a dead past incarnate who no longer is an incarnate of Asura do that??
@Stockfish1511 Жыл бұрын
Madara was never fodder and he is still vastly superior to boruto characters. Its that people who rank boruto use abc logic which is vompletely flawed. Feats matter not abc scaling. On that note madara stomps any character in boruto. Its been well debated in vs forums and madara wins
@vircouli0728 Жыл бұрын
Naruto is the real villain..
@jack_marston..4 ай бұрын
Solo Hinata
@Nglover_official2 ай бұрын
Solo kushina 😎
@Zorothex5152 Жыл бұрын
"it travels at the speed of light" The LASER does, not Madara's HEAD, Naruto dodged the speed of Madara moving the laser, not the speed of the laser. Man, be better.
@averytherockgod9822 Жыл бұрын
Tho I don’t think base Madara would be INSANELY powerful in the Boruto series, however I do think that Juubi Madara, is still quite possibly the most powerful villain in Naruto/Boruto to date, because it has even been stated in the most recent chapters of Boruto that the 10 Tails was too powerful for even someone like Code or Isshiki to control, howeve, somehow, with Madara at the peak of his power he did it. So I think if Madara were to come back to Naruto, find the second Ten Tails and become Juubi Madara once again, I don’t think there’s hardly anyone in the entire series that could stand a chance against him.
@TimXMan1000 Жыл бұрын
Madara is Fodder. He’s no longer top 10 in the verse. If I had to powerscale madara in boruto, I would he’s slightly stronger than fused momoshiki because of hax and taijutsu and limbo clones, regeneration etc but he’s weaker than jigen who beat full power adult Naruto and sasuke together and sealed Naruto. And as may know there are plenty of characters way stronger. Baryon Mode Naruto, Kaguya, Isshiki, two blue vortex Boruto and Kawaki, Code No limiters, Hagoromo, Hamura, Shibai and Daemon and Jigen. Thats 11 characters stronger than madara. If he’s no longer top 10 in the verse he’s basically fodder 😂 no hate to madara I respect madara.
@kylemma33 Жыл бұрын
@@TimXMan1000 Power scaling/scalers can be ridiculous, all it takes is 1 punch landed before power scalers run wild. If a basic human with no chakra lands a punch on a character like isshiki, power scalers immediately put them above all characters who are weaker/slower than isshiki. I think author intent should hold the most weight when it comes to judging characters strength. Also Bulma slapped beerus therefor shes 100 quintillion times faster than light and is a universe buster.
@TimXMan1000 Жыл бұрын
@@kylemma33 exactly hinata is ostutsuki level because she slapped Kawaki. I’m Just kidding 😂
@DrixMaloneDFS Жыл бұрын
Madara's a fcking fictional character so wtf are you saying "no hate to Madara I respect him" like he's a real person who'll see your comment and challenge you to a fight lmao?! Y'all mofos are weird AF smh.@@TimXMan1000
@averytherockgod9822 Жыл бұрын
I actually kinda disagree with u there, TimXMan1000. I actually kinda doubt that Madara is weaker than Blue Vortex Boruto or Kawaki cause Boruto still fears the power of the Ten Tails and says such an entity is stronger than him while Madara is strong enough to harness its power single-handedly while someone like Code who is EASILY far weaker than Madara, has hard time trying to control the the Juubi with only a fraction of its power. Baryon Mode Naruto is debatable for sure, and Kaguya I hv my doubts for being capable of being more powerful than Madara, tho there is some evidence to suggest that she could. Jigen/Isshiki however I’m not so sure about cause tho in terms of speed and strength, Isshiki’s feats r pretty insan, his hax aren’t. Cause sure his powers r a BIT more op than just simply shrinking things cause he can even shrink things such as energy which don’t even hv a physical form. I don’t think he could survive Madara’s Limbo clones or the Truth Seeker orbs. Plus Madara, is just a far more interesting and well rounded character than Isshiki, plus even NARRATIVELY Juubi Madara being stronger than Isshiki just makes sense due to the fact that Isshiki is even stated himself to be weaker than the Ten Tails and it took Kaguya a way longer time to catch Madara off guard to defeat him than it did for her to do the same to Isshiki. The Daemon one tho, I’m actually gonna agree with u with on. Cause even tho I think Daemon is an absolutely RIDICULOUS character whose entire existence goes against many of Naruto’s narrative themes and concepts, I can’t rlly think of ANY WAY for Madara to defeat Daemon, cause Daemon could quite LITERALLY counter anything Madara could throw at him, and even narratively, Daemon is shone to hv little to no feat of the Ten Tails. So yeah I will agree that he could defeat Madara or at the very least Madara couldn’t defeat Daemon. And yeah OBVIOUSLY Shibai would absolutely STOMP Madara. And sure Madara isn’t the strongest character in the verse anymore, he most certainly isn’t or wouldn’t be “fodder” even IF he showed up in Boruto. Not to mention the fact that with Madara’s sheer drive and tenacity, he would probably find a way to boost his power level even further in the series if he were to come back.
@Karlfucious Жыл бұрын
It doesn't really matter Boruto is kind of lame to be honest. I liked Naruto and Shippuden but not Boruto at all. The entire show just craps on the legacy of the previous 2 shows.
@daivionosaghae480711 ай бұрын
There is one factor we leave out here. Madara was mainly invincible because of the reversed reanimation juitsu. Take away his inability to die and I think a lot more people beat him.
@HackedGlitch26510 ай бұрын
Madara also seemingly dicked around while he was an edo. The moment he was revived, he got a bit more serious.
@MurreStone11 ай бұрын
35:30 Dont forget that wihtout an Rinnegan Sasuke isnt able to see the Limbo clones. And Madara got the Ten Tails infused and was just 1 sec later able to fly. Naruto needed idk 1h?
@divineeternity7268 Жыл бұрын
I only care about Madara as an Uchiha using his Uchiha powers. That's originally the Madara that the world knew and feared. We got a glimpse of him once he came back to life and he wasn't exaggerated. Dude was the real deal. After borrowing Hashirama cells and merging with the 10 tails killed the hype for me.🤔
@IknowthatIamright..... Жыл бұрын
Well, I thought I was the only one who thought that way,but i guess the 10 Tails designs really were ugly...
@divineeternity7268 Жыл бұрын
@@IknowthatIamright..... It was over the top hype. I get that they had to escalate the final battle but at the cost of one of the best characters in all of Naruto. Waisted.😒
@IknowthatIamright..... Жыл бұрын
@@divineeternity7268 Hmm, Madara was one of My favorite antagonists at the time of introduction,but he fell off after the battle with Might Guy TBH..... The way Kishimoto wasted his character was Criminal...
@jmdagan Жыл бұрын
28:41 and Katasuke plus his cameraman, which may add to the chakra drain since additional people, maybe? Or I could simply be wrong.
@CMWolfMagic Жыл бұрын
Kurama recovers Chakra as he sleeps, Which he usually does in Boruto, During a time of peace, And he knows he has the most Chakra, He knows Naruto does push himself constantly, He could be constantly sending excess Chakra to Naruto, Naruto could just be using KCM for its Offensive and Defensive stat boosts, TL;DR Naruto might be holding back a lot of Chakra.... Which boosts his Sage Mode stats....
@godlygamer2466 Жыл бұрын
Naruto as a child could maintain a seal suppressing kurama with 98% of his chakra, and he survived in Baryon rather then Kurama, he definitely has more chakra.
@Lucid_Chris Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure his Limbo Clones can make Susanoo’s. I mean y’all remember his wood style clones was able to make Susanoo’s against the 5 Kage 🤷🏽♂️😂😂😂 So I’m pretty sure his Limbo Clones can handle something like that.
@migzwilliams2049 Жыл бұрын
They shouldn't have introduced Kaguya as the final boss. Madara should have been the end game until the end.
@Sakamoto11250 Жыл бұрын
If kaguya wouldn't be introduced we would have never know how white zetsu were formed and origin of chakra on earth
@Isshiki_otsutski. Жыл бұрын
Hell no
@migzwilliams2049 Жыл бұрын
@@Sakamoto11250 That wasn't needed. From the start we all knew about Madara, they introduced kaguya at the very end out of nowhere
@Sakamoto11250 Жыл бұрын
@@migzwilliams2049 that's why it's the best because all was done in shadows and we didn't even made theories about this happening, there was no hints about kaguya being in the show and this tells great story telling and atlast the entire story fully made sense
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi Жыл бұрын
@migzwilliams2049 it was obito not madara who we thought was the main villain😅
@LeeKhona-t3h2 ай бұрын
I am getting confused, White Zetsu is pathetic and weak, how where they going to fight the Otsutsuki? They. Can't even fly
@sundaypaskali7 Жыл бұрын
he wouldnt get passed himawaru
@mrxiinka6206 Жыл бұрын
Respect your opinion but that is cap Current sasuke> current adult Naruto> base momoshiki> kinshiki> Toneri >kaguya> madara
@x_Phoenix. Жыл бұрын
W
@OhWow-zi2wi Жыл бұрын
I doubt Madara ever gets mentioned again.
@SpammytheHedgehog Жыл бұрын
Might Guy forgot who Madara was after the war.
@OhWow-zi2wi Жыл бұрын
Because Guy would have smoked Madara if it weren’t for the ten tails power 😜
@Nglover_official2 ай бұрын
@@OhWow-zi2wi nope without ten tail, madara can defeat guy
@ShowtimeMaury Жыл бұрын
NC u we’re genius u nailed the theory about Sauske 😱😱😱😱
@ThatOneBjjGuy Жыл бұрын
I think that Madera can hang with the otosutski due to the fact that his full knowledge of ninJitsu gives him a stronger outlook on keeping up with these “gods” even though the oats are just 10 tails that became self-aware(evidence by 2BV chap 4/also when Amado describes the otosutski during the ishiki koji fight) .. all of the oats Suzie had an issue with just Sasuke’s 1 rinni sharingan .. Madera had 2 rinnigan and his 3rd one… Madera literally took on 8gates (which everyone including Madera agreed that that was his weakness ….. dude literally revived from nothing….. he was never once taken down.. he didn’t even run out of chakra… if he had the same amount of time as all these other gods….. I’m sure Madera would accomplish anything…. Not to fail to mention if Sasuke is one eye was giving them issues with switching places and jumping between dimensions………. The 3rd eye Kaguya was using could literally shift between dimensions, taking everyone with you… Imagine that kind of power under Madera….. he would be dangerous with all the knowledge he has, and would continue to have … Not to fail to mention that none of the other gods could see maderas limbo clones… since ishiki is so limited to what he can do .. he can’t hang with Madera and his healing either…
@kirialaska805711 ай бұрын
That's what I've been saying!(with more or else details)