NCOs vs Officers: Who REALLY Runs the US Army?

[@MVK_GS]

Well, the aspirational desire here is this: The NCOs run the Army, but the officers are accountable for the outcomes.

[@hansm.picazo2550]

Ohh

[@jedburghpodcast]

That's a good way to think it about. Thanks for watching.

[@doughitchens6806]

I served with General Votel while assigned to the 75th Ranger Regiment 1996-2000 as the Regimental Maintenance NCO, outstanding leader and officer, learned a lot from him during my time at Ranger Regiment. Sua Sponte "RLTW"

[@jedburghpodcast]

All the way. Thanks for watching and sharing.

[@JosephHenry-l5e]

Retired NCO here. It was part of my job to keep the LT grounded and focused. Remind him he was there to learn to lead. Lead by example. Only had 1 worthless LT in 21 years. Well, they were all worthless at the beginning but they learned.

[@jedburghpodcast]

Learned due to you I am sure. I owe everything to my NCOs who took the time to train me. Thanks for sharing.

[@jamyspencer8833]

It depends. If the question is what are we doing, its the officers. If the question is how are we going to accomplish what has been decided. NCOs

[@Tiah-mm8lp]

Office-sir, "officer", they are stuck in the office where they belong, they are only allowed in the outdoors when they finish their chores, which involve all manner in paperwork accounting, doing budgets, asking lawmakers for more money, figuring out who needs gear, uniforms, medical assistance, who needs to get promoted, run a promotion board, figure out who needs to get paid, figure out what ribbons need to be given, take inventory of supplies, ammunition, logistics, they need to do these mind numbingly boring standard operating procedure rules, written in detail. When they finish their chores they get to have fun, which involves planning missions miles and miles away from the action, and supervising without getting their hands dirty. If this sounds like fun to you, then you must be an officer/white collard worker. (And then they move up, and get to take credit for enlisted, and if they are lucky a statue, and their name in the history books.) NCO are field commanders, he's an outdoorsmen who does a form of camping but they get shot at. They are the backbone of the military, they enforce all of the decisions made by officer, putting the mission first, their needs second, and they always, ALWAYS look after the welfare of their troops as a mandate, it's cardinal rule number 1 or you ain't an NCO. Sergeant First Class reports to an LT and is the Platoon Leader when he's not present. A 1st Sergeant runs a company in the field when the company commander is filling out paperwork, which is always. Sergeant Majors have a version that runs different formations of troops, from Battalion, Regiment, Brigade, Division, Corps, and they run the show. An officer just shows up to take credit, supervise, and report to higher ups and civilian control. They also need to know how international body of laws work.. White collar vs Blue, which is why their is a familiar figure of speech from Enlisted that goes, "I work for a living, don't call me sir, I ain't some desk jockey pu_", 😅 (Never, ever, call an NCO "sir", it's an insult.)

[@sandovalperry2895]

The GS-5’s run the military. The system doesn’t move until the paperwork moves and who do you find supporting EVERY function - the GS civilian. Assignments after assignment the GS is the first and last person you see. The GS is the continuity, the military leadership comes and goes but the GS holds that one position for 30 years. So, COL and CSM dream on about being in charge but that GS-5 at DFAS has got you by balls.

[@TheCrackupboom]

Officers today are an anachronism. They don't lead they follow. But don't tell a political entity like the US military the officer corps are clueless as you will be identified as a radical. The Officer/Enlisted paradigm is outdated in a nation that functions based on emotional orientations of who is a victim and who is an oppressor. Obviously, officers are the oppressors and should be ostracized for their lack of understanding and put in situations that make them clownish. I was an enlisted member and an officer.

[@TheCrackupboom]

@@sandovalperry2895 This is close to truth, but it is also the GS-9s to GS-13s who direct the GS-5s. Active duty does not run the military as they are moved around all the time and take their marching orders from civilians who have the ability to tank the officer and enlisted corps. The politicians have made sure the military members don't run anything and that is why we constantly have poor results except when we attack those with the military capabilities of the Dervishes at Omdurman.

[@TheCrackupboom]

How about getting down to the real nitty gritty. Why do you need so many leaders? The truth is you need to fire half of the officers who are nothing more than tits on a bull or have them actually making decisions. The whole situation violates military history which a conglomeration of which is military philosophy. OICs or Officers in Charge are a farce. They just run around saying OIC, OIC, oh, I, see. Either the Officer is out there leading on day one and can make decisions or not. The Democratic leadership model is losership at its worst.

[@LawrenceLeverton]

Good Officers (If there are any) hopefully get more involved than that. Its called Deck Plate Management. You don't get what you expect, you get what you inspect. If you don't do that, than a yeoman can do their job. And many have. God Bless Submariners.

[@History90585]

continuity is essential for units especially in these times

[@steveshapland8846]

I had the pleasure in the 10th SFG of having a great SMaj & company CO pair. Interestingly they had served together in Korea where the CO had been 1st Sgt when the SMaj had been his company CO.

[@harrisonned4376]

The Non-Commissioned Officers run the military. We were trained to complete a mission if OIC was taken out.

[@LawrenceLeverton]

An E7 gets his entire shoes wet while walking on Water. And E8 just gets his soles wet. An E9 walks on water and never gets wet. You cant say the same for Officers.

[@erindanelleavilaavilaguerr7251]

It's my isfahan iran matter concept as a nuclear missle treaty holder as a designated survivor for the white house matter, known as a digni missle holder when i was mistreated by the commander per his way to keep control. Which is my control.

[@jimmyboy131]

He talked a lot but I'm not exactly sure what he said. I think he said they invest a lot into developing NCOs.

[@Changinglives4christ-k9q]

Because it is the backbone of the army

[@evisceratorxxx7961]

It’s who determines what the end product will be.

[@charlessmith1144]

The politicians run the military until there is a need for desperate military action. The backbone of any organization is the people who practice the military art and science every day. Who do you think that is?

[@BatMajor]

You cant cave an Army without Troops and you cant have Troops without Leadership...both NCOs and Officers are needed to operate the military.

[@robertisham5279]

What do we need officers for? Can't we just have ncos only?

[@otherguyjo1684]

Officers are the face of everything, but NCOs are the ones who get the job done.

[@WillS-x9y]

Privates are not NCO’s

[@darbyheavey406]

The British have a strong NCO corps as well.

[@LawrenceLeverton]

Why should this even be a question? If it is, we have bigger problems then I imagined. Being led by blind squirrels is not a good option. And I hope its not the case. God Bless Submariners.

[@Trt8378]

So, if enlisted runs the army, why not pay us like you officers!

[@LisaMiller-g8v]

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[@84marcow]

NCOs are important because the Officers aren’t worth a damn these days.

[@TheUnsungVil]

Many countries apply the concept of NCO‘s… somehow I fail to understand why the US system is supposed to be so „special“ - except for the usual reason: The US being addicted to constantly portray themselves as being sooooo special, sooooo different, sooooo virtuous 😅

[@jasonbourne1119]

@@TheUnsungVil with NATO counties, they are fairly similar to the US. But with many other non-allied countries, NCOs are given nearly zero trust. What does that look like? You’re the company 1sg, congratulations, you get to lead the unit in PT. LTs are squad leaders. Essentially, junior officers take the role of NCOs as we see it in America. At the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. All that matters is who they choose to place in positions of leadership. They put officers in charge, not NCOs. I know that’s a really long winded way to say, officers are put in positions of trust, not the “NCOs”.

[@TrainingVideosChannel4]

Because we are. If we weren't the whole world wouldn't try to immigrate here.

[@ulrichvonammon1973]

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[@jasonbourne1119]

Officers, plain and simple. Yes, I’m an NCO

[@GoonyMclinux]

The officers make the plans and the NCO's run stuff. Except today you guys got nerped and depowered and bend the knee. Yeah I was an NCO.

[@AMoja-tk6kx]

Same here brother. Unfortunately the Army is run by people with degrees who have either, never served or served for the wrong reasons.

[@TheCrackupboom]

@@AMoja-tk6kx How about getting down to the real nitty gritty. Why do you need so many leaders? The truth is you need to fire half of the officers who are nothing more than tits on a bull or have them actually making decisions. The whole situation violates military history which a conglomeration of which is military philosophy. OICs or Officers in Charge are a farce. They just run around saying OIC, OIC, oh, I, see. Either the Officer is out there leading on day one and can make decisions or not. The Democratic leadership model is losership at its worst.

[@AMoja-tk6kx]

@AlanHinson Truth!

[@austinshannon4197]

Technically it’s officers because all officers outrank NCO’s.

[@paulrodgers252]

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