Neato D7 vs Roomba S9+ Compared & Tested

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00:00 Neato D7 vs Roomba S9+ Compared & Tested
00:20 Power
00:40 Brushroll
01:04 Debris Pickup
02:06 Carpet Deep Clean Test
02:58 Navigation
03:27 App Features
04:40 Multiple Floorplans
04:51 Auto Empty Base
05:33 Battery Life
05:58 Price
06:11 Conclusion
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[@VacuumWars]

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[@jakekiedaisch2279]

I realize it's been a year, but I wanted to lend some credibility to the claim that the Neato picks up everything. Our neato d7 is run in a combination machine shop/computer room with a door between them. We only have him clean the computer room (800 sf) normally, and every time he runs he returns with a dustbin completely full of dirt. But a few times people would leave the door ajar and Neato would wedge himself in the door to clean the machine room (1200 sf) as well. The first time it happened I didn't even realize till I went to dump out his dustbin and found stainless steel pop rivets, hex head bolts, and a whole bunch of other stuff that he had sucked up. there was no damage to any of his components or material. Neato has had a hard life in our classroom and dealt with it admirably. now I'll never buy anything but a neato.

[@TheBeanWhoWalks]

Great review. One aspect that I think you should have covered is cleaning time. I have both of these robots. My experience has been that the iRobot takes 3 to 4x as long to clean a given floor as the Neato. With all of the recharging required to vacuum one of my floors, it's not unusual to take four to six hours to vacuum a floor with the iRobot. Neato can do the whole thing in less than an hour on a single charge.

[@MannySilva]

I have a neato XV 21 for like 8 years now and it still works great, the screen doesn't work sometimes but it doesn't affect the vacuum operations. Neato has been making all the other robots look dumb in my opinion, only the lastest Roombas have started to use intelligent mapping and it still falls short. The light radar system that Neato has been using for 10 years now is just superior.

[@tonijohnson1184]

Just bought the i9+ and I’m very happy. Out the box it took all of a few minutes to put together. I will say it was loud at first but once I got into the app and turned the power down it quieted down. Works like a charm and went back to its base on the first run. Love it 😍

[@sparkpaul]

Love your videos! It’s both informative and entertaining!

[@epiccollision]

Irobot really needs to address the “over active” sweeper on all the other models, I’ve seen it throw debris half way across the room

[@tukitukikakakaka]

In my experience with a neato, it malfunctioned after one year. First the obstacle error happened even when there was nothing around it. Usually cleaning the lidar sensor got it to work again. After that the screen glitched and was unusable, after that it usually worked for a few minutes untill some error made it stop.

[@danielthan44]

Thanks and I’m late but your videos are some on the best

[@elisandoval5053]

Thank you for comparing the D7 with the S9+ it was very insightful.

[@SegevSurfcastingSh]

Thank you sir. I gonna get the D7. Great videos !

[@ss4sgoku]

this is the most awesome video i was waiting for this showdown thanks for this :), can you make a video with the LG R9 CordZero ThinQ Robot Vacuum or the dyson 360 eye or one of the samsungs powerbot or the sharp RX-V100 question its there any good robotwasher around like the old scooba 450?

[@trelaskillz4283]

Thanks for the hard work. Great review! 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@VacuumWars]

Thanks!

[@m3driver245]

I think the Neato D7 is the better overall value. One thing you didn’t point out that tips the scale for me to the D7 is that with the LIDAR it operates in dark/ at night unlike the S9. This is particularly useful if you want to wake up every morning to freshly cleaned floors via the scheduling feature in the app. The cleanbase is cool and all but the substantial extra cost plus having to buy refill bags just isn’t worth it when considering how large the dustbin on the D7 is.

[@iamdenislara]

M3 Driver it also means that if the charging base moves a little the D7 goes crazy or if you happen to move the D7 while on a run it goes crazy too.

[@m3driver245]

Denis Lara true but at nearly half the price I’m willing to just pick a place for the base and let it be.

[@iamdenislara]

M3 Driver yeah I agree with you. But keep in mind that the s9+ is $1300. The s9 without the clean base is $999

[@m3driver245]

Denis Lara Yea i here you; but I can’t get over that it still costs more for a worse low power mode; smaller dustbin; and you can’t use it at night. And the Neatos go on sale all the time; they get down below $700 on occasion.

[@vikramjeetkapoor8379]

M3 Driver eh, I figured out a solution for those bags. You know how the bags have a hole to take in stuff? Well, why not try to use that same hole for emptying out? Might be a pain, but it could work.

[@etcetera662]

The Neato D7 was my first and has so far been my only robotic vacuum and while I think it does a great job in terms of cleaning the floors it can be an absolute pain in the ass to get it consistently going between jobs. If I so much as shift a chair a few inches from across the room from where it's docked it can cause the D7 to be unable to recognize the floor plan and refuse to run. Sometimes nothing in the room has changed at all and it still can't figure out where it's at. Occasionally it'll even kick off from the base, realize it doesn't know where it is, and continue to joy ride around the house looking for the base it was 6 inches from when it started. Every couple months I'll need to have it spend hours remapping the entire house and redo all the zones and no-go lines because of some minor change to the room it's based in. Since this has been my only experience with robotic vacuums I'm unsure whether this is unique to the Neato software or is something all robotic vacuums struggle with but I find it hard to image they'd be as popular as they are if they were as frustrating as my experience with the D7. It would be great if you could add a "practicality" or "software" test to these reviews to try to identify the limits of these vacuums mapping software. That's honestly the most important thing to me as I don't have a room I can designate to a robot that will never change.

[@Fireball_Wx]

Sadly, I think it's a software issue on the d7. I've had mine for about two years now and at the start it was great. Even if it would wiggle the charging base on its own, it would still save and run it's floor plan. Now mine acts the same as yours but I have to run the floor plan every time I let it run. Also alot of people seem to be up in arms over neatos new like the d8-10 adding an exclusive app for those but we haven't seen a software update in quite some time.

[@crueldragon0]

THANK YOU for this video! I bought a D7 a year ago based on the reviews and testing from this channel and i still love it. I previously had a roomba and the thing that i still people complain about that isnt an issue for the Neato's is that the roomba's have a cliff sensor that gets tripped on black carpet patterns (like i have in my house). Ive also heard that for the new roomba's camera to work, there has to be lights on in the room, or at least sufficient sunlight, whereas the LIDAR bots can operate no matter the light conditions. Would it be possible to test a range of "gone for the day" conditions that would add to the complications of using a robot vac? Such as, turning the lights off, black carpet designs, and the dreaded loose charging cord on the ground. tests that other wise challenge a bot to fail and spot all together

[@hadrast]

Supposedly, iRobot upgraded their cliff sensors as of the i7 model in order to solve the black carpet problem, so that bit shouldn't be an issue anymore. It would, however, be interesting to see an experiment verifying this (e.g. find a carpet that the 900 series can't get on and try an s9 on it). I've also seen reports that the amount of light that a (smart) Roomba actually needs to navigate is very low (such as night lights or power lights from plugged in electronics), and the post-900 series ones that use training runs should have even more of an advantage on top of that. +1 to the adverse conditions navigation test idea.

[@hidekimeio8693]

I wonder if iRobot has plans for firmware updates to adjust/set a higher power mode when cleaning vs the 8 CFM claimed to match the other.

[@DWilliam1]

Have a NEATO and love it.

[@mrmurdock6994]

The Neato robots are the best. It's so sad to see them out of the market today. D shape, powerful suction, top navigation and great app. Top robovac.

[@VacuumWars]

We enjoyed the Neatos too.

[@steve89084]

So I got a S9. If it works, it seems to work well. The problem is on carpet, I guess the rollers are 'sticking' to the carpet threads. This sets off the 'clean the brushes' message. Is there a robot vacuum that would work better on carpet? Mine is about 3/4 of inch long, which I didn't think was bad?

[@Annator]

Can you test the new Xiaomi Mijia 1S?

[@excelsior2708]

Which is the best cleaner between the debit ozmo t8 vs Neato d7? My d7 has a board failure at 3 weeks.

[@samerm8657]

Good video and very objective and professional content. However I think you should add two more poont in your evaluations. 1. The hight. 2. The ability to "climb" obstacles like thuck carpets and door frames.

[@davidlu9824]

One other factor that should be mentioned, the Neato will work on deep carpet. I have bought a Roomba, and a Roborock, and had to return them both because they would barely moved on my deep pile carpet. The Neato on the other hand works with out issue on the deep carpet. I have had some issues with the Neato, mainly it being unable to load it's map of the house which seems to happened every 3 months or so. When it does this you have to delete the old map and then have it do a new special mapping run. So bottom line, if you have deep carpets I think the Neato (and maybe the Shark) are the only vacuums I know that will work.

[@majesticmaxim5794]

please do a review on the 360 s6

[@brock12003]

I've had three Roombas that broke.. a lot of money. Now I've had my Neato for 6 years ! No issues at all and I've never had to buy a single part other than a new battery. Neato 4 life !

[@fairytaleviola]

Which one do u have and what do you think about xiaomi ones?

[@tiffanysparks7540]

What about along walls? My Neato D7 leaves dust, crumbs, and other debris along the walls. Is the brush too short?

[@jennyfraser248]

Can you please do a deebot osmo 930 review?

[@AliNaimiBeHappy]

there is a huge design problem with Neato! I have a D7 and had D5 and have been using them for about 5 years. since i have cats before the dustbin gets full it gets clogged. all the hair will come only in the center and therefore after 40 minutes, my D7 will not clean well because hair is all the way to the brush! also, I am having a problem with the floorplan after a week or so it just doesn't recognize my floorplan (this is a one-level house less than 1000SqFt of vacuum area). and I don't change anything in the house. the no go zones never worked properly so I have to use the magnets.

[@grzecchu]

Hey Vacuum Wars, which vacuum in your opinion is better for hard floor ? Roomba S9 or Neato d7 ? I care about good quality vacuum with no damage after a few months. Please help me :)

[@wolfpackmanko0668]

Customer service on D7 for warranty work was quick and efficient

[@cs_fl5048]

I wonder if you have TESTED THEM IN THE DARK. Lasers see in the dark. Does the camera?? Doing the downstairs when sleeping upstairs is nice.

[@atomstarfireproductions8695]

Try making it suck up clumps of paper towels or napkins to see if it is prone to clogging

[@VacuumWars]

A fine idea, thanks!

[@enekaken]

I have a D5 and it often sucks up tissues or dryer sheets without any issues lol

[@atomstarfireproductions8695]

Jeremy Ho now I’m curious, would stuff like dryer sheets be able to get into the self emptying bin?

[@RobotMasters]

atom starfire productions Yes I have tested this, and it does make it to the self emptying bin; treats it like a giant hair ball 😆

[@Blue_Dawg_469]

If we go back to the first generation models of each, you'll see Neato was the first to deploy LiDar, whereas the first generation Roomba was a bump-n-go machine. The following generation of the Neato added refinements to its previous models whereas the Roomba added more suction and side sweepers. The Neato didn't finally add side sweepers until recently (2018) and even then its a poor attempt to further enhance their side cleaning ability as the brushes do not protrude beyond the front of the machine like the Roomba does. Just about everything that made the Neato special, Roomba stole and copied into their next generation. The funny thing is iRobot started in 2002 with military contracts, but didn't release their Roomba until 2004. Neato didn't begin until 5 years later as a company but didn't release their first model until 2010. With their innovation and LiDar use, forced Roomba to step up their game adding first generation infrared tech to replace the bump-n-go bumper. But like other limitations of infrared, it had problems with dark rooms, dark colours and then scraped for a camera system. Now in 2020, Neato still uses LiDar which Roomba has yet to copy. This final version, Roomba had finally decided to change their original O shape to the Neato's D shape. That big auto empty dustbin is a neat feature, but we still have to empty the big bin. Whereas the Neato has the BIGGEST bin of all smart robot vacuums since 2005. TBH, the first, second and third generation of the Roomba could not be called a robot as it was an overpriced bump-n-go toy. Even now in 2020 the biggest thing on the Roomba over the Neato is still the price. Which is why I am fine to standby my Neato. My first generation machine still works in 2020 and I've changed out the battery pack, rollers and even the motor once in 15 years.

[@earthling1984]

I stopped after first paragraph. Only because, I've had a Neato Botvac and a Neato Botvac D Series. Both had side spinning brushes; and, they were made many years before 2018. The earlier Neato XV series I believe did not have a side brush, Nor do a couple of their newest models.

[@trevortremaine8468]

So, I recently switched from the Neato D7 to the Roomba S9+ and I'm finding the change to be a mixed bag. I've got roughly 700 sq ft of room to clean. There are a number of obstacles in terms of chairs and furniture. The D7 would do it in roughly 1.5 hrs. It takes more than double that with the S9+. From the look of things, the S9+ has trouble negotiating a forest of chair legs and tight areas that the D7 could deal with fairly well. I find that the Roomba has some advantages, including cleaning under skirted couches along with the dustbin collector, and it kind of handles fringed carpets better - kind of. The S9+ has a harder time getting up onto the carpets though - it tends to push or fold over loose carpets rather than climbing them. The S9 is also shorter, so it gets under some kickers on appliances better. Overall, I think the Neato D7 does a better job of sucking up dirt (as long as the filter is clean). One aspect that never gets covered is robot maintenance. This is where I think Roomba wins. The Neato D7 had been in a number of times for servicing and finally gave up the ghost. There is no way to repair/replace wear and tear items like wheels but Roomba supplies them. Finally, there should be some further mention on filters. I think only the Dyson has done away with this - and the others need to follow suit. Filters get clogged, need regular monthly replacement (or sooner some times) and decrease overall performance as they get used.

[@VacuumWars]

Thanks for sharing your experience here.

[@rxonmymind8362]

Agreed. Washable filters should be the next logical step.

[@asraiSOA]

Looking to replace my D7 at just over 1 year. When it works, it works well... however, the ongoing Navigation Errors of not finding Floor plans -- that are right there in the app. -- are beyond annoying and inconvenient at this point. It's a well know problem with anyone that has one of these as well as by NEATO... they're just not addressing it. NEATO's support is notoriously useless and as many others have stated, they play dumb on this issue when you call them. Time to move on to a Roomba I think.

[@Ramen_noodles660]

You guys always do a good job reviewing vacuums!

[@ftrecky8240]

Will you test the ikohs netbot s15?

[@roddenshaw]

I would be interested to know how the Roomba performs on higher pile carpet. I found that the Neato can’t move on my high pile carpet because the squeegee at the back of the cleaning head is angled forwards, and digs in to the pile. If I remove the squeegee the robot performs fine on higher pile but inevitably much worse on hard floors. I wonder if the dual roller system on the Roomba might allow it to run on high pile carpet without modification.

[@RobotMasters]

Rodden Shaw The Roomba i7 can maneuver better on high profile carpet and even on a Shag rug. The s9 gets bogged down on High Profile carpet, but can still complete the job without getting stuck. It fails on the Shag rug though.The reason for this is the s9 has high suction and its dual extractors sit lower to the ground adding additional resistance. Lastly since the s9 is D shaped it sometimes gets its corners caught up. If you have medium to low profile carpet both Roombas are fine. So High Profile carpet the i7 the one to get

[@RunMason]

If you mostly have hardwood floors with a couple of rugs which would you recommend. I have one with fringe and one that is deeper pile like a shag in the 5 rooms which will be hardwood floors.

[@VictorJB86]

The fringe is a problem for the S9, I have to set a “No go zone” on my S9 to make sure it doesn’t get stuck there.

[@quocvanhthn90]

This is really great.

[@VacuumWars]

Thanks!

[@Reseiver]

I've had 4 neatos and even 4th one D3+is starting to make weird noises and it is about 8months old. Its cleaning really grate, a fantastic cleaning machine. I would say if u run it 3 times a week its as good as regular vacuum cleaner. BUT, its a notorious furniture destroyer - say goodbye to chair legs and furniture corners where neato has to take tight turns. Bumper hit will trigger reverse. Charging metal stripes on the back are going to sand away any paint and finish when its backing up. A pumper behind would solve this issue. This is also the reason to why I will move to the round style as soon as neato dies.

[@VacuumWars]

Great input. Thank you!

[@tiffanysparks7540]

I agree, my Neato D7 can get under chairs but it can't get out because one corner of the large square front will always hit a leg and it immediately starts spinning around to try a different direction and hits another leg. Serious buyers regret when combined with the fact that my Ziglint D5 actually cleaned along the walls. The Neato D7 leaves a strip of dust and crumbs almost an inch wide around the entire wall.

[@angeryitalianchef7251]

ya but they thing is with the s9 low power thing is if you WANT low power so you use it then the s9 is actually giving you low power like you want unless you want high power with low power selected then its just like wha?

[@TelaMoon]

My S9+ has an odd navigation issue. It exits the base parallel to the walls but once it turns to face the wall it was parallel to at the start, it over-turns. Rather than a 90 degree turn it’s makes a turn that is more like a 100 degree turn. So rather than vacuuming parallel to the walls it vacuums on an angel and does this throughout the vacuum cycle in each room. It doesn’t even correct itself when it gets to a wall which only part of it touches since it is hitting it at a slight angle. When it’s vacuuming along the baseboard it doesn’t run parallel along the baseboard so it misses areas in each room. I had a Neato D7 before the iRobot and it never had an issue like this. I really liked the Neato D7 and feel that it vacuumed more thoroughly than the S9+. I returned it for two reasons 1) because of its height it would get stuck under certain parts of my couch 2) it kept getting stuck going over a modest threshold. But overall it was a solid machine with excellent battery life and vacuumed like a champ. If Neato released an updated vacuum that was shorter than the D7 and had a self-emptying base (I didn’t think I would appreciate not having to deal with emptying out the dust-bin as much as do; 👍🏼 to the gal or guy who came up with that idea.) I would buy the Neato model in a heartbeat. I’d just use the No-Go Lines to avoid the threshold. In regards to my S9’s navigation issue, I contacted iRobot and even though the customer service person after watching video of the machine operating agreed that the machine was vacuuming on an angel, his supervisor said the S9 was operating normally. If that is indeed normal operation, it is not worth the $1300 plus tax price tag in my opinion. Navigation seems like it should be nailed down at this point. It really doesn’t make sense that the machine can’t be configured to vacuum parallel to walls for the most part.

[@curtisbme]

So how much does the Roomba's Clean Base hold before you have to empty the bag? As you mentioned, the Neeto doesn't have a tiny dustbin like the Roomba so it would be useful to know how often you need to change the Roomba's clean base vs. the Neeto. The clean base seems like an massively expensive solution to a problem that only Roomba has. Given you have to buy bags too what does that do to the cost and convenience factor? Knowing the volume of the clean base vs Neeto dust bin with how often you will need to clean them on an 'average' floor would be very helpful in determining relative convenience and value.

[@samuellee4100]

I believe iRobot says the clean base bag can load 30 bins before needing to be replaced. I have the i7+ and will replace the bag every 3-4 months. I don't have pets and about 800-900 sq ft of vacuumable space and run it about 3 times per week. So for me about 50-60 empty bins.

[@alana6806]

Can we compare the S9 vs the dyson ?

[@WeSRT4]

I think that LIDAR is the better navigation sensor. In my experience with a Samsung robot vac a camera doesn't work so well in poorly lit areas.

[@johannessiipola1267]

I had the idea the S9 came with a laser sensor in addition to the camera but I checked the marketing materials and they only claim it has a new "3d sensor". Maybe they mean it just uses the camera to 3d map your house? Or maybe there really is a new type of sensor? Too bad iRobot never really tells you the specifics about their navigation.

[@danriddick914]

I don't think the S9 uses an entirely visible light camera - I own an S9 and they even encourage 'training' the robot in different lighting and it still doesn't seem to have much trouble in the dark. I could be wrong and/or you may understand this and mean something different, but I haven't noticed anything too crazy or unexpected with my S9.

[@iamdenislara]

Just a quick clarification: the Samsung and the Roomba use their cameras differently. Roomba take pictures of things like sofas, bed, tables etc. The Samsung ones use to follow a pattern on the roof. No idea how that works.

[@iamdenislara]

Johannes Siipola the 3D sensor is to see ahead of the s9 for navigation purposes, the real tool for remember rooms is the camera and obviously the count of wheel turning.

[@hadrast]

@@iamdenislara Almost. The smart-navigation Roombas (the ones with cameras) don't rely on wheel-turn counts for navigation because it's too unreliable on soft surfaces like carpets. Instead, they use the dedicated surface sensor for that purpose (like an optical/laser mouse). On the s9 it's in front of the 3rd wheel.

[@GuyWhoReviewsStuff]

So I have had the D7 for over a year now and I must say I am extremely disappointed with the D7. This is my 3rd Neato first the the XV20, then the Botvan and now the D7. The issues ive had with the D7 is at times it just doesn't want to go out, there is no error or anything it just wont go out when its scheduled to. 2nd is the hardware, I have had to send the D7 vac back twice due to the failure of the VSLAM lidar which is a pain but Neatos service center is FAST, They get my vac in the morning and already shipped it out the same day and its the same vac so they actually repair them and while they are at it they replace other things such as the wheels, filter and brush which is a nice little plus. Lately the D7 has just started to get stuck in the middle of the rooms where there should be no reason it should get stuck. I recently just got the S9+ and I couldn't be happier, the self cleaning doc is a huge plus and game changer and I find the Roomba navigates the rooms better and covers the areas better.

[@ritiksfilms]

Is it worth paying extra for the D7 when I can get the D3 for much cheaper?

[@imlkrsfn]

No it's not

[@Patriotsoul]

It looks like ecovacs quit building the Deebot self emptying system. They had the d76, d77 and d79. Good units and you could use the base as a vacuum that had multiple attachments. Keep up the good work! I’d still like to see a test between the roomba s9+ and the Deebot if you could find one of the old Deebot d76, d77’s or d79.

[@RobotMasters]

blueguyjan Yeah I liked the Deebot r98 self emptying bin. It beat out the Roombas self emptying bin since it had the detachable mini handheld vacuum 😆

[@crazyfunjen82]

Does the app on the phone let you know when the charging station bin is full?

[@iamdenislara]

Jennifer Collins yes

[@poisonplayer8297]

Yes

[@GreenPicco]

Could you review the Proscenic M7 robot vacuum? It has no-go lines, and it mops. However, when mopping, it can use a mopping pattern or movement similar to the Braava bots.

[@somewhereinbetween1499]

Never heard about the Proscenic but it seems like a really good competitor to Roborock! I second this and hope you're able to review it too!

[@Drivethisnotthat]

Love it!

[@brianmasson2120]

I just switched from Neato to Roomba. I had 2 of the D3s, while they are not the D7 I think most of the hardware is the same between the different models and the app is the same. When I got the first D3 it took several tries to get it connected to my WiFi and the Neato servers. Several times it dropped off the WiFi and I’ve have to go through the pairing process again which is a huge pain, you have to hold the bump sensor and power button for ten seconds, then open the app, tap on the vacuum, tap on settings, tap on pairing, exit the app, go to phone settings, connect to the WiFi broadcast by the vacuum, go back to the app, hope and pray the app determines it’s connected to the vacuum (if not force quit the app, hold the bump sensor and power button again), give the vacuum your WiFi info again (luckily it saves the password), set the name of the vacuum (why doesn’t it remember?), hope and pray again that it will connect and register on the Neato servers. After communicating with Neato support and several firmware updates later the likelihood of it dropping off of the WiFi lessened to the point that I was confident enough to purchase a second one for upstairs. I knew I’d have to get the firmware updated and went in knowing I’d have pain with the initial connection and I was 100% right, but I didn’t realize having two of them on the same network would be a nightmare. It seems they would fight over the WiFi connection, one would disconnect and the other would be OK, reconnect one and the other would drop off. I never had to use the no go lines on the original so I didn’t know what I was in for trying to set it up on the new one that would jam itself under low furniture, snag the tassels on the rug and shoelaces. Neato requires a special run to create a map for no go lines, despite it creating a map every time it runs. This process took days to successfully complete, you have to be home and pamper the vacuum, should it get stuck anywhere and the battery dies, you have to start all over, and it took almost an entire day to do the no go map run, once complete and no go lines are added it obeys them until it loses track of where it is but to be fair this was pretty rare. After months of back and forth with Neato support, during which time they had create a guest network and connect one of the vacuums to it, I discovered the ping times to the vacuums was incredibly high (over 1000ms, that would be ridiculously high for a website, let alone something on the local network) I sent in the newest vacuum to test it, they said nothing was wrong with it. To clarify, I have the Netgear Orbi mesh WiFi and 125mbps up and down fiber internet and I get that speed everywhere in the house. When I got the vacuum back there was something rattling around inside of it, communication with support was becoming as problematic as the vacuums, eventually they stopped responding and both of my vacuums would never register on the servers again. The vacuums no longer cleaned on schedule as they need to be connected to the Neato servers for that to work, same as the no go lines. I could manually run the vacuums but then have to search for where the newest one got itself stuck, then the original one went into some mode that required resetting prior to being able to do a manual run and eventually the fan started rattling. This all happened over just a couple years, I do not feel I got my money’s worth out of these. My brother’s original Roomba from the early 2000s was still worked so I decided to get the s9+. I’ve only had it for a week so I don’t have a long term review yet but so far it’s looking much more promising, connecting to WiFi didn’t require exiting the app to connect to the vacuum’s WiFi, it was seamless and connected quickly, firmware updated right away automatically, the no go map doesn’t require a special run but you can opt to do one without the suction running, it claims to make the map faster but I haven’t tried it yet. Were there some issues? Yes, the pre-installed bag in the base wasn’t seated all of the way so dust eventually clogged the fan but was easy to clean out, I blame myself for not checking something that could easily move during shipping. On the very first run the vacuum got stuck on a few things and wouldn’t resume until I manually emptied the bin, I was a bit worried this would be the way it worked but thankfully every run since it has returned to the base to empty the bin as needed. Be aware that the base is loud when I sucks the dust out of the bin. Oh and my carpet looks and feels as clean as it does after running my Dyson animal upright now, much cleaner than the Neato

[@Jose_Pointero]

Good read. I hope you're still enjoying your S9 because I bought one yesterday and am waiting for it to arrive :)

[@ashkanrmp7442]

S9 plus or Dyson 360?

[@LazyMax05]

2:34 - Who's dropping their yard trimmings in the living room?

[@epiccollision]

My husband who didn’t take off his shoes 👿👿👿

[@spaghetti9067]

Un related but please can you test the Miele c3 powerline

[@TeutonTwin]

We only have hardwood floors. And I'm curious about the Neatos (we have two old Roombas which worked relatively well). I also like their software more... And am sceptical about the stability of the Roombas. I feel they are rushing to keep up and dumbing it down.

[@TeutonTwin]

So will go for the Neatos

[@johnosterman494]

To bad about Neato. I love our old D5. I appreciate the gentle navigation option. It's upstairs now and replaced by Roomba thanks to auto empty bin and a Labrador! Anything without an auto empty bin is practically useless with a dog.

[@arevee9429]

That clean base looks fantastic, but I could not stomach the $1400 price (8/2019). A friend works at Neato and can get me one at a huge discount, so I'll give D7 a try on one floor of my home. I have Roborock S5 and it's mostly wonderful except for the smallish dust bin. Too bad it doesn't warn the user when it gets full - which it often does during a single cleaning cycle. As a lazy person who likes gadgets, after trying the Roborock, I'm sold on robot vacuums. Sooner or later, another manufacturer will come along with a more reasonably priced clean base.

[@varungk3388]

Please compare mopping performances of Ecovacs T8 AIVI Vs Braava jet m6.

[@VacuumWars]

Thanks - noted.

[@cameron5087]

With how much these cost it would be nice for Neato to give older customers the no go lines update. I own the botvac connected.

[@wilsonc91]

they did i think

[@clintsecombe4641]

You have to try the lg R9 master

[@TechSpyYt]

Does the roborock s5 give a alert if the dustbin is full

[@Ciferos]

ANUJ SINHAL no it doesnt

[@eli-we3mr]

Bruh Im mad I was on a roll but I didn't get the notification

[@humansRpepul2]

Now here's a channel that really sucks! That's why it's my favorite review channel

[@TheOriginalNCDV]

I wish they'd improve the Neato app. It's finicky to create small no-go areas, and the zone feature only does rectangles (good luck trying to cover any sort of irregular area). You also can't select *multiple* zones to clean at once which is just plain stupid. Would also be nice if they included a real-time view of the cleaning progress on the map like the Roborock.

[@RobotMasters]

ncdv47 I didn’t realize that the Neato App had those restrictions and limitations, Thanks for the info!!!

[@TheOriginalNCDV]

Robot Masters The D7 is a damn good vacuum, but the app has room for some improvement.

[@RobotMasters]

ncdv47 Yeah I owned the earlier versions and had the D7 for a while, I found in my floorplan had those weird round barber shop style chair legs the Neato would always get stuck there. I agree the Neato is a excellent powerful Robot Cleaner, just need to iron out the navigation quirks 👍🏻

[@TheOriginalNCDV]

Robot Masters yeah I've had my D7 get stuck a few times doing the same two rooms in a circle until it drained the battery due to some navigation weirdness. Very odd.

[@RobotMasters]

ncdv47 Huh sounds like they are still having issues with navigation, had the D7 when it first came out and returned it because it was constantly getting stuck. I been using the i7 and s9 Roombas, dumber than a brick in terms of navigating but they always seem to get the job done without getting stuck 😀

[@arevee9429]

Thanks again, VW. Don't know why, but I want to like the Neato better. I have used neither and have never owned a robot vacuum. Maybe someday. Sell a few of the corded ones and use the money on a robot?

[@wifesnatcher_donald1x724]

Try the dyson 360i

[@alemimov4119]

Я так понял- это реклама iRobot? Хотя, мне он то же нравится. Но, показатели работы от батареи говорят сами за себя. Не бывает лучшего всасывания при том же времени работы от батареи. Да и отсутствие ледара на корпусе наводит на некоторые размышления...

[@SpaghettiMonstar]

How good is the navigation of the S9+ in the dark. The lidar system of the d7 probably works better in the dark than the camera system of the S9+.

[@reggieoverton121]

Brutus Baraca do you clean in the dark? Also one can say put a wall mirror up or paint your wall dark and Lidar will have trouble. 🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️. Do your research on how Lidar vacs get confused. My point is that those faults on both sides shouldn’t be the reason that you don’t get one.

[@SolarAbyss]

Which is unfortunate. The S9s low power is quiet enough that I'd like to run it at night but can't because the navigation doesn't work

[@stevenjev]

Reggie Overton yes i clean in the dark, after we all go to bed it cleans downstairs. So not being able to navigate without the lights on is a big problem, one that is much more common than mirrors at the bottom of the floor (which, I’ve tried, doesn’t seem to be a problem)

[@Reseiver]

@@reggieoverton121 up north it gets really dark really early during the winter, so yes people vacuum during the night. That's exactly the reason I didn't end up with the previous Roomba model as it got confused all the time. Mirrors are not the problem as most of them are either hanging high on the wall or doesn't start at the edge of the floor.

[@reggieoverton121]

I’m not sure how much light is needed for the roomba. I would prefer a quite vac to clean while I’m there or at night however in practice to clean the robot or human cleaner would prefer the owner to leave so they cannot make more of a mess. I also like to come home to a clean house.

[@BoliMeKurac]

Who cleans the clean base? A clean base cleaner?

[@robertweiser7122]

They answer is found by looking into a mirror!!

[@XeVierTech]

and the next question is who cleans the clean base cleaner? clean base cleaner cleaner

[@Fugi-lz1yy]

Samsung made a robotic vacuum with a clean base and it cleaned the brushes it emptied the bin as well it was compact but had a 4.5L dirt bin and it was bagless it just wasn't shipped to America

[@l1ghtn1ng64]

Does the roomba s9's corner brush get damaged on carpet?

[@VacuumWars]

I didn't notice it, but I did notice in this video it was dragging a bit on the deep clean test. But it was find on the pickup tests on long pile and med pile carpet.

[@iamdenislara]

The material of the brush is very rubbery. It goes back to the original shape.

[@RobotMasters]

Some users say their s9 side brush gets damaged while running on carpet, I have tested my s9 on medium to high profile carpet to Shag rugs extensively and while the side brush is ineffective on these areas the side brush always returns to shape aka springs back to life on hardwood floors and tile 👍🏻. It a pretty robust side brush

[@polloloco3]

My corner brush broke one of the arms. iRobot replaced and I sent the broken one back. Hopefully this one is more durable.

[@RobotMasters]

polloloco3 Hopefully mine doesn’t break, been using it on High Profile Carpet for a month

[@barygol]

D7 vs Deebot 950?

[@fc1133]

Nice review, as always... I have the D7 and I am super happy with it. However, there are a few things that need improvement. 1. I would tell the D7 to clean a certain area, it would start its "engine", drive out of the charging base, but then STOP and go back to the base!? I had no idea why, so I called tech support, which by the way, is awesome!!! They asked me if I changed anything from when the robot scanned the environment, and I said no, not really. And I haven't. However, It turns out that a big moving box that was sitting 15 feet!!! away was the issue! I am not kidding! That box threw the mapping software off and the robot would not start vacuuming! They need to fix that! I had the same issue with a stool next to the charging base. Once I moved it, all was good. 2. The robot only vacuums one room/area at a time. When it is finished, it will go back to its charging base and let you know, via notification on your phone, that its done. You then have to start from scratch and tell it the next room/area you wish to be vacuumed. I wish I could pick more than one room at a time. 3. When you get the robot and do the initial scan of your house, it vacuums at the same time, which in my opinion, is not necessary. It makes the whole process way slower. I mean, it took hours to scan my house, which was super annoying. YES, I understand, this is a one time only thing. Still, it was annoying as hell (more about this later). Why not just "drive around" and scan the house. Forget about vacuuming at the same time. 4. Now, lets talk about the scanning for a second. The process is pretty straight forward. After you get your robot ready (install app, charge it and what not, I forgot) you tell it to scan/create a new floor plan. Sounds pretty simple, and it is. However, here are a few points to remember and some that need to be "fixed"... a). When I did my first initial scan, I got everything "out of the way". Everything that was movable. I am not just talking about things that might (and will) get the robot stuck. I am talking about chairs, foot stools, stools, rugs, shoes and stuff like that. The reason for that is simple. I want the floor plan to be as "clean" and detailed as possible, if that makes sense. Next time I move into a new place, I am going to create a "naked", "clean" plan and THEN put my furniture it. b). The initial scan will take a while. I am talking about hours. The problem is that once the robot gets stuck while scanning, you have to start from scratch! It should not be this way. Just like it isn't when vacuuming. When you vacuum and the robot gets stuck, unstuck it, press the resume button and it will start doing its thing again. Why can I NOT do this while scanning??? Same goes for running out of battery. When you scan for the first time and the D7 runs out of battery, you have to start all over again, which makes zero sense to me. c). You cannot "re-scan" SPECIFIC rooms or areas only! Its the whole house or nothing. I forgot to move some bins under my bed when I did the initial scan. It will still vacuum there, but the area is not showing up on the map as cleaned. It shows up "grayed-out" and I hate that, ha ha. I wish I could tell it to scan an existing room/area again. I mean, things change sometimes and having to scan the whole house is stupid... I thing that's it for now. : )

[@archer102356]

WOW! wonder why this is never mentioned by others? Having to start over every time is nuts because you can't even put no-go lines before the first scan is done so it will have issues for sure. I have a D4 coming basically the same vacuum now worried.

[@fc1133]

@@archer102356 The only reason I can think of to why no one else brought this up before, might be the fact that most people's houses will get scanned before the battery runs out. I guess. Or maybe they fixed this by now!? I did my initial scan probably over a year ago, and I know that there were a few updates since... I just checked the app and you can add a second floor plan. Maybe I start a scan with 50% battery so it will not make it for sure, and see what happens... Thanks.

[@StromboliKicks]

If you still have the robot can you confirm if you now can choose to vacuum multiple rooms? It's pretty useless if the person needs to manual tell the robot to go back to vacuum after he finished with 1 room. Also, if he starts from scratch every time the battery runs up when mapping how does it map the entire floor? Wouldn't the battery end near the same spot every time?

[@fc1133]

@@StromboliKicks I still have the robot, but haven't used it in over 6 month. I moved and it's still a shipping container... Just give customer service a call and they will tell you if you can now vacuum several rooms back to back.

[@JohnBarbagallo]

You can get two D7''s for the price of the S9+. wow, not even a question which one to buy. I wonder how long it will be before roborock and deebot have a D-shape unit?

[@benscones9529]

In the market for one of these and I keep seeing inconsistent reviews on Amazon. It makes it hard to feel confident about a purchase.

[@troubleMakesThree]

I've personally been happy with our D4 purchase. Great price to feature ratio. Though, if I had deep carpets, I'd have to consider the S9.

[@iamdenislara]

If you have carpets then get a roomba. You don’t have to buy the s9. Get a 985 or 960 to get most of the features.

[@tonyhwang3888]

@@iamdenislara Or 980. I have 980 and i7+, wish 980 had an auto empty station. The reason I have two is all hard surface on ground floor and 2nd floor has all carpet. Both of them produce OK results with two dogs in the house. Like in anything there is no 100% perfect robot vacuum.

[@iamdenislara]

@@tonyhwang3888 980 and 985 is exactly the same. The 985/980 has something call carpet boost, (which is more powerful than the i7 when it kicks in) you can turn ok this feature and the hair pick up will be better.

[@movadopika]

I purchased my D7 for less then $500, since the S9+ can be almost 3 times that price, I believe the Neato is the better value. Plus, it works in the dark, which should be part of your tests :)

[@iamdenislara]

movadopika but you can buy the s9 without the +, (no automatic dirt disposal)

[@RobotMasters]

The Roomba i7 and s9 can still navigate, vacuum and return to its charging station in the Dark. The smart mapping features are disabled.

[@iamdenislara]

Robot Masters hey. The i7 and s9 without the + all have the same features, the only difference is the lack of the automatic dirt disposal.

[@RobotMasters]

Denis Lara Yeah I think the dirt bin is a different size too 🤔

[@iamdenislara]

Robot Masters Maybe, because when you get the i7 the bin is different since it doesn’t connect to the base. Maybe a little bit bigger.

[@omarhamad3556]

Robo s6 vs D7 vs S9

[@dukat03]

LIDAR prevents the vacuum from randomly hitting into things.

[@rxonmymind8362]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bjdunne5113]

Another review said the D7 couldn't do multiple floors unless you bought separate base stations for each floor

[@GuyWhoReviewsStuff]

He was wrong, the D7 will only recognize 1 base station.

[@rxonmymind8362]

It can do three floors. Don't know about base stations though. I wonder if you bought a base station for each if the three floors will it go back to it?

[@szeptacz5342]

I just an room a ad before this video

[@IPlayGames3]

His house must be so clean.

[@crystaladkins4033]

I bought neato d5 and lasted 13 months a d broke down

[@daveroe8612]

Having owned 3 different Roomba botvac's over the years and One Neato I speak from experience. The Neato as an overall product is light years ahead of Irobot. If Neato runs into a navigation issue ( gets lost) it switches to self-navigation until it position on the navigation map. This usually is a matter of under a minute. You can see Neato " look around ( turs slowly left than right) using its forward facing visual camera. Having both camera vision and Lidar make the difference. Cleaning in a darker room is difficult for a Roomba, not even an issue for Neato. Another advantage is Neato Robotics has toll-free 7 days a week tech support if you ever need it and it is free. Neato is far from perfect, but if it isn't the better Botvac why did Roomba copy and go from round robots to D shaped like Neato always has? Just my thoughts.

[@rxonmymind8362]

Otoh my Neato D4 has gotten stuck in a program "loop". It bumps up against my wall in between the wood floors and carpet. Just keeps bumping for 3-5 minutes. Scratch head.

[@edgarbustamante3371]

Neato D7 will be my slave robot! Thanks.

[@RoxxyNvx7]

Hey, roomba s9 is not the only one with a clean base

[@billythekid1638]

Neato d7 for the win

[@Nerazzurri87]

1:20 That doesn't make sense. If the "low power" mode is still prettty high the robot will not save battery. This should be pretty obvious...

[@vincentfortnite713]

Did you not watch the whole video or what…

[@jds6014]

Damn it I’m getting old!

[@xavierhimes163]

Great video as always. Personally, I would spring for the Roomba S9+.

[@VacuumWars]

Yeah its a big investment, but it sure is cool!

[@xavierhimes163]

@@VacuumWars I own two Roomba vacuums ( a 535 and a 690) and they both have done well at cleaning my floors.

[@atomstarfireproductions8695]

I hope that it will later go under $900, I would buy it at that price

[@xXxmlg_vacxXx]

favourite one sounds like this voice to me

[@nathans3805]

The Neato D7 absolutely shits on the S9+.

[@tabbycat406]

Chris, someone is reposting your videos on FaceBook without credit!

[@ioblings]

After a couple of years iRobot finally can compete with the d7, but still insist on a camera which is a big no for me! iRobot really needs to step up their game

[@orderandchaos2647]

Jeez this s9 + is more expensive than 360 eye Dyson!!!

[@iamdenislara]

Because it comes with the clean base. Without it the price is $1100

[@nispen]

The one big big big disadvantage of Neatos is the emptying. It is a bitch. Put on your surgical mask and gloves and then get a vacuum cleaner to clean the area where you emptied it. It is so badly designed, that you really shouldn't get one just for that reason.

[@alemimov4119]

Пожалуй лучший обзор. Жаль процент собранного мусора приводится только для одного пылесоса.

[@volodymyrpetrov9677]

I love your reviews! But I've noticed that you're mentioning the price while never really talking about it in specific numbers. When you're so specific on cfm numbers and exactly 100 grams of send, it's quite striking that you keep ignoring the exact prices. I understand that they will change, but you always can "current prices are". It looks like you'll have to divide winners into different price categories. Roborock S6 in low, Neato D7 in middle and Roomba S9 in the expensive.

[@courtneyalcantar3849]

Volodimir Petrov as the videos age, the prices of the products will change. So right now he can say the roomba is $1,300 but in six months it could drop to $1,000. He phrases the prices in the way he does so he’s never incorrect.