NEBDR Section 4 Most Challenging Segment "the Figure 8" Part 2

[@wanderingturtleadventures8619]

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[@bschoenecker]

Awesome vid. I heard you mention that you loved the front tire but didnt catch which one it is. What tires do you like best?

[@wanderingturtleadventures8619]

@@bschoenecker Thanks man. I believe I had the TKC 80 on the front still at that point. I think I was saying how much I liked the Motoz Rallz on the rear and I couldn’t wait to get one on the front. TKC 80 is a great tire don’t get me wrong but not off road oriented enough for what I wanted.

[@waniacanderson5712]

just got back from there this weekend was going to do more but this and a couple of trails in the bethel forest really put a beating on me, riding a KLR is quiet the work out ! great video ,you made it look easy.LOL!

[@DustyBiker]

Enjoying your ride. Thanks for sharing!

[@tapdean9969]

By far my fav BDR vid. Made me re-think my tires!

[@wanderingturtleadventures8619]

Thanks, glad to help!

[@Harloweqbumfuque]

Really enjoyed your video. My buddy and I ran sections 1-4 last summer but were unable to complete the trip due to gps problems. We've solved that problem and will start again next summer at the beginning of section 4 which was our favorite section. I may have missed your tire choice but pretty sure I heard Rallz mentioned. I have them on two bikes and love them. I also used to have a ktm 690 Enduro R but sold it and bought a Honda crf300l which I'm really liking. The KTM was 50 lbs heavier and had more power than I would ever use. With the 300 I can grab a hand full and not worry about ever seeing my bike again.:) I think I'll sub. Thanks for sharing.

[@wanderingturtleadventures8619]

Thanks man! Yep Motoz Rallz. That tire is awesome. I’ve thought about switching over to a 300 as well. If Yamaha makes a 300R I’m pretty sure I will haha.

[@michaelsupple6081]

@@wanderingturtleadventures8619 Coincidentally I'm also waiting on Yamaha! And the wait continues! The crf300l has an amazing resale value so you may consider buying one and selling it if and when Yamaha comes around. That's my plan. In the meanwhile I'm really enjoying the crf300l.

[@wsstudiowayneschapp6554]

Thanks for the video. Nice to see what we are in for to prepare! I notice you are using a I phone for your GPS , what app did you use? Was thinking of getting a 500x , will stick with my DRZ after watching your trip.

[@wanderingturtleadventures8619]

Gaia is the best GPS app in my opinion for adv riding of you’re going to pay. I think Dork in the Road might have a discount code? OsmAnd is the best free one because you can download a certain number of entire states for free. I used the free version of Gaia and OsmAnd together to get everything I needed.

[@VermontMan]

I did much of section 4 on a second generation Vstrom 650. My skidplate was the real mvp.

[@wanderingturtleadventures8619]

Haha yep, I’m definitely glad I upgraded my skid plate!

[@stevencote7951]

Well I'm not going to be riding the Wee Strom on that section.

[@whoissokol4846]

How many hours did it take for section 8 ?

[@williamdoyle7122]

What saddle bags do you have on your bike?

[@wanderingturtleadventures8619]

They’re THE GIVI GRT718’s. Super happy with them. Definitely need a heat guard on your exhaust though for most bikes at least or else you’ll burn a hole in them. Even then if you have a cat in your pipe the contents in the bag will get super hot like water/beer/food. I’m eventually gonna get a new pipe that doesn’t run as hot and that should take care of it.

[@williamdoyle7122]

Thanks man. I have the same bike and will hopefully be doing the NEBDR next season

[@wanderingturtleadventures8619]

@@williamdoyle7122 awesome! Below is an affiliate link to the product if you’re interested! Givi GRT718 Pair Waterproof Saddlebags for Adventure Motorcycles Dual Sport Enduro 15 Liters

[@ryanmalone2681]

Is this still the ‘easy’ section?

[@wanderingturtleadventures8619]

Pretty much the entire route is pretty easy unless it’s really muddy. The hard sections in Vermont are mostly really short obstacles for like 500ft or less at a time. There are some pretty challenging parts like that. If you go early spring or during a wet fall when it’s muddy and have a heavy bike it would be really difficult. Things also look so much easier in video than they are in person. Go pro flattens everything out. I’d say the more difficult part of the NEBDR or BDRs in general is just the endurance aspect. Section 4 in Vermont definitely has the most challenging parts. Especially in the “figure 8” looking segment where the alternative bypass cross crosses with the main route and makes a figure 8.

[@ryanmalone2681]

@@wanderingturtleadventures8619 I just got back from doing a course with Brett a Tkacs on my GSA, so definitely riding a big bike. Everyone was saying the MABDR would probably be too boring for me considering we’d all been tackling some difficult terrain well. However, I look at some of your video, and then also realized tonight that the BDR website has this as the second most difficult BDR, which surprised me, and made me question whether to do the MABDR and keep training, or go for it. The mud and ruts don’t bother me too much. If I fall, I’m confident I can get out solo and recover, but some of those rocky steps, get it wrong on a big bike, and you’re quickly into leg-breaking territory. I record my weekend off-road travels too and know how much the GoPro skews the difficulty. Hence, my question, because some of those rock steps looked hard, fun, but hard. I only ride solo, so I’m always imagining worst case scenario. I still think I’m gonna do it.

[@wanderingturtleadventures8619]

@@ryanmalone2681 nice man yeah I say go for it. There’s always the bypass option for the difficult sections if you’re not feeling up to it. Just make sure you can an in reach or some GPS device to get help if you get hurt solo! I actually don’t have one and always ride solo but I really should get one. You’re right about the broken leg thing.

[@ryanmalone2681]

@@wanderingturtleadventures8619 I have satellite SOS and nav, but I’ve broken ankles and ribs riding and it’s hard on the family, so I have to avoid it for a while, but I’m up for anything. Hence, why I need as much training as I can afford so I have lots of tools in my back pocket when I need them for difficult terrain. I heard the MABDR is mostly paved, which I’m sure is great and beautiful, but I enjoy technical terrain, not to mention being comfortable, which is a combination that is a bit challenging. Thanks for the reply and video. Ride far and ride safe my friend.

[@ryanmalone2681]

It would be a lot easier if you were standing.

[@wanderingturtleadventures8619]

Very true. It might look like I’m sitting the way the camera is but I always stand when it gets difficult. If I’m sitting through stuff that would just be better standing it’s probably because I was a few days in at this point and my legs were killing me lol. Very true though standing certainly is better but resting is equally as important on multi day trips.

[@ryanmalone2681]

@@wanderingturtleadventures8619 Totally. If you can do anything with less energy, do it. It looked like you weren’t standing at all, but that must’ve been the camera, because on the hairiest bits, it appears as though you were standing, but you apparently were not. 1 day of 6 proper hours pf hard riding and I’m exhausted and sore the next day. Day after day and I need to scale it back or be more lazy, which is dangerous.