Buick Grand National vs 426 HEMI 'Cuda - 390 AMX - 396 Chevelle SS - 455 Stage 1 (Classic vs Modern)

[@doncnunez6231]

As the proud original owner of a 1987 Grand National 32000 miles and 1966 Buick Riviera GS with factory dual Quads, love seeing Buicks laying waste to Hemi's and big blocks with just a V6, No Mo Mopar, Buicks showing Tail lights !!

[@stgraves260]

@@doncnunez6231 That’s awesome. Not to many original owners these days. I have a 1970 Dodge Challenger my dad bought new. I’m in the process of verifying if I’ll be the original owner since my dad passed it down to me and we have all the records of it. I went to a car show last year in Texas just before I lost him and was told by several of the judges that the original ownership would be past down to me because it stayed in the emendate family ( because I was his son. ) It would be cool if it’s true. Nevertheless it will never take away the memories my dad and I had in that car.

[@jungle486]

NOS cheater system obviously

[@DavidDuncan-n1d]

I remember witnessing the glory days of the grand national. I told friends that this car was beating big blocks and emberassing alot of v8 built machines. It became almost comical when a gran national would pull into the pits, sometimes racers would drive their cars back onto their trailers and leave. I spent a good part of my younger yrs at the Dragstrip. And the Buicks surprized alot of racers. I recall rumors on the street there was a 455gs buick that u did'nt mess with. Legend says he took out a 454 camaro that was once the big dog. 💪😎

[@bobgrim9605]

Grand Nationals were FAST

[@thomaskurzweil1621]

A modern grand national should be running modern muscle cars.Not stock grip, muscle cars VS mudded.Grand national obviously gonna lose

[@stevepick9527]

Gotta love that AMC 390 rippin’ down the track…those and the Buicks were totally underrated. Almost bought a new 87 Grand National but wifey said no, was pregnant with our daughter….damn wish I had bought it!

[@HAL-dm1eh]

It had plenty of room for the baby seat.

[@dodgeguyz]

Gotta love those Grand Nationals with the V6 edition.

[@clicks59]

They all were V6 editions.. lol

[@mikemanofleisure]

As the proud owner of 68 SS El Camino I approve of all these Grand Nationals. 👍🏻

[@milehighkit4725]

Those Grand Nationals really kept us on our toes :-) they ran really hard up here in Colorado with our elevation!

[@Bobby-z7o]

That AMX run was nice!!!

[@badgerbait8351]

This stuff heals what ails you! Love it!

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

Had 2 friends in the late 80s that had the Grand National & a GNX & they were the sh*t! I had a new '88 Trans Am GTA & it couldnt keep up with them light to light but my T/A would do 145 where the Buicks stopped at 124! And wow, a '71 Monte, dont see those much, I had a '76 350 4bbl way back in 1981! I was impressed by the one GN running 12:11 @ 111 mph! Love that '68 Javelin as well! ✌💖☮

[@davidanderson3684]

Love it ! At one time i own one . My cousins own two of them including a typhoon and cyclone !

[@LordSamuelJ]

Im most impressed with the AMC.

[@Adam-nv9zo]

Those little V6s hurt a lot of feelings when they came out.

[@JerryM-p2v]

Yes they were taking everyones lunch money. lol

[@bw3506]

That right hand lane was considerably better but that AMX didn't care he just blew them all away.

[@rolltide9547]

Buicks from 1970 stage 1 to Grand National own hemis.

[@2muchBoost_]

Wow...going down memory lane

[@christophersanders5007]

Back in the late 80's when those Grand Nationals first came out I had a 1970 Buick GS Skylark 455. I raced a brand new Grand National back then, and my GS blew that thing away in a straight line. My GS was not a Stage 1, but the engine modifications I had done to the 455 (.30over 460) engine made it more powerful than a Stage 1.

[@mfgreviews5028]

The GN is intercooled on a cold fall day it would of kicked your ass. I doubt your Buick could hit 60mph under 4.9 seconds

[@christophersanders5007]

@mfgreviews5028 The rear tires on my GS could hit 0 to 60 MPH in 2-seconds it is just getting the tires to hookup, and have the car move forward would be the problem.

[@rrdh3458]

Love that 455 GS!

[@duncandmcgrath6290]

I’ve seen a Turbo Trans Am wreck a GN . This was hot stuff in the day , people got wise and built 9 second street cars with China turbos

[@MrRoundel]

Grand Nationals are cool cars, for sure. However, I had a buddy in high school who had a beautiful Stage 1, blue with some white vinyl roofing accent, IIRC, and it was a beast. I went on one ride in that thing and remember being pinned to the back of my seat as we entered the freeway going who knows how fast. That was awesome car. And I'm guessing it's a lot more rare than the Grand Nationals. But that is a guess based on how many I've seen in the wild. I even remember that it had an automatic with a shifter I could only describe as being like a jet throttle. Was it the only car that beat the GN? The Cuda almost beat it, but couldn't hold off the Buick and the end. If I had to choose between a '70 Hemi Cuda and a Stage 1 Buick, I'd have a very hard time.

[@SuperNovadose]

Solid racing with some great cars

[@LightningMcKingSVTime]

Grand Nationals showing out!

[@Bricklinsv1970]

That AMX wasnt playin! Neither was that 455 Buick!

[@dougmurray7684]

Are they running these Grand Nationals stock?

[@jsl6488]

As it should be! Newer 80's technology should prevail.

[@gregoryg9500]

This is one of the best race tracks in the country, beech bend raceway.

[@achieveidealweighify]

I miss my 87 Grand National

[@Sxt_2014_DMV_]

Yeaaaah the amx🤘❤️

[@prestonedmonds4128]

What was the date of this race?

[@nedaCFilms]

1989

[@discgolflife]

The Buick has a power adder (turbo). The other cars are naturally aspirated. Put a power adder on any one of those Hemi's and it's not even close 😂

[@Gunbucket1964]

Those other cars also have 2 more cylinders than the GN's.

[@forthefunofit5487]

The Grand national is what it is. It was designed to have a turbo from the factory. It was not just "added". Thats like saying the big block with a 4 barrel carb has a power adder.

[@duncandmcgrath6290]

@@forthefunofit5487There’s a Regal with a 3.8 na and a Grand National… don’t get it confused

[@burningblue1254]

​@@forthefunofit5487turbos, superchargers, nitrous are all power adders because they are not normally aspirated engines regardless of the number or size of carburetors etc.

[@burningblue1254]

The hemi didn't need a power adder. This hemi charger ran a 13.93. A box stock hemi charger will run 13.5s. The GNs also had a 300 to 600 pound weight advantage depending on the Charger's options and of course the hemi engine was heavy because it was originally a NASCAR engine designed for high rpm endurance. A well prepared hemi Charger 4 spd with 4.10s in stock trim with a good driver will run 13.1 at 109 more than enough to handle a GN.

[@bryanbittinger9794]

I remember when these Buicks first came out they were impressive but there's nothing like driving a 60s or early 70s big block 4-speed Chevy Ford Mopar they were just fun cars the Buicks were just smash it to the floor and go no excitement

[@nedaCFilms]

@@bryanbittinger9794 I agree, driving an old big block 4-speed car is better than going to an amusement park lol

[@andykerr3803]

AMX...AMC did sell some road legal drag racers 👍 That and some Canadian 68 Mercury Cougars could run 12's out of the showroom. The Cougar came with street legal rear slicks 😊

[@chadhaire1711]

BULLSHIT...none ran 12's...LOL.....most did not run 13's........

[@stgraves260]

So is this supposed to be a all stock class? Just curious because a fully stocked Grand National runs a 13.5 sec 1/4 mile at 102 MPH. Much faster than that when it’s modified.

[@80GP400]

The Stock GNX'S where in the 13's but the Stock Grand Nationals where 14's. Top speed was 125 Miles and Hour for the stock GN the C4 Vettes of the same year was 155 mph. The Gbodies where also Lighter then those Muscle Cars, But there is no doubt with some tweaks the GN's where quick on the Strip.

[@HAL-dm1eh]

Well, the intercoolers were very sensitive to temps so the colder it was outside the faster the car was. People got incredible numbers playing with that variable.

[@stgraves260]

@ TY. And yes GN were some sweet rides back in the 80s and 90s. I still think they are some nice rides even today. Back in high school there was a kid that had one his mom and dad bought him. Nothing wrong with that. I had this friend that had a 68 or 60 charger with a 383 4spd. They used to race all the time at Kendall in Mansfield Texas 1/8th mile. If the charger didn’t miss a gear he would beat the GN. Never the less it was always nice to see those 2 race. It was always good. Last day of school my dad let me take his 1970 Dodge Challenger 440 Magnum 4spd to school. Yeah that was fun to see the look on those guys face. That thing Shock the whole school. I knew it was loud but man it echoed really bad in the school parking lot for some reason. If I remember correct it was pushing around 600. -650 HP. Yeah, she would move. Love that car. It sitting in my garage still to this day. Lost my dad about 2 years ago. Got some really good memories of us in that car. Out of respect, it will be finished exactly how we both planned on it to be restored. We made a list together and started on it before he past. It’s just about finished. Just a few more things.

[@stgraves260]

@ oh yeah for sure. Specially turbos. They love that cold air.

[@chrisbeauvais7499]

Had to leave the 2006 GS nationals because my oldest son decided he wanted to arrive 16 day's early lol

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

2006 my son turned 16 & now he has 2

[@chrisbeauvais7499]

@@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman awesome

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

@ your son a car guy now? As much as I am my son never showed as much interest, he just drives his new truck & nothing else considering I have a car collection & a 57 yr collection of Hot Wheels, Matchbox & everything in between

[@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor]

AMX running 12's lol.. they were 14 sec cars... those GN's were 15 sec cars.. i remember them all.. these one were obviously not stock!

[@VegasRT500]

Why does it seem all the Grand Nationals are running slicks?

[@V8AmericanMuscleCar]

These turbo Buicks are fast and very beautiful, but give me a slower V8 any day. I just love the sound of an old American V8 engine.

[@sandcycles894]

*1968 AMX 390 KICKS ASS !!! **4:33*

[@bobdole7701]

John Bruce had the fastest hot air car 1985 GN back then.

[@milktruck9345]

I would like to see any of them against a build up ac Cobra.

[@dusterman1972]

Twin turbo one of those old v8 by by gn

[@neal6473]

The Grand National and GNX car's dominate the 1980's and the 1994 and 1996 Impala car's dominate 1990's 😉👍💯.

[@burningblue1254]

I love the Impala SS but the Trans Am WS6 the 98 Camaro Z28 and the Mustang SVT Cobra R would dust it at the track.

[@paultrouskie1825]

​@burningblue1254 I've had my 96 Impala since 2000. I don't care if a minivan can whip it. love it, and will never get rid of it. Just went over 29k miles on her.

[@burningblue1254]

@paultrouskie1825 I love them too. They were great sleepers. Lots of people didn't know what the SS was all about. They looked great in black.

[@boburwell9921]

In stock trim a GN flowed more air than a na 900 cubic inch engine

[@jameswbarry9576]

Hi I had a 1986 T,type tubro not good car won't get out of its own way nobody can figure out what is wrong with it so I sold it

[@nedaCFilms]

damn, that's a shame. Must have had something wrong with the computer or turbo. Those Regal T-Type models would absolutely scream.

[@jameswbarry9576]

@@nedaCFilms I guess I just got a bad one

[@lelomiliken7598]

I have a 87 Monte SS that's getting a new Jasper engine soon and will be giving it to my daughter. This is the type of racing that's 💯.

[@paulplack490]

What's the deal with "the 231 V6 edition" being repeatedly announced? Was any other engine ever put in a GN?

[@Floydian4everr]

I don't believe so

[@timtodd6830]

No

[@buzzwaldron6195]

There were Turbo Chevy V6 4.3L... and Olds turbo'd the 3.5L/215" V8... and there was a GN in the 2000s...

[@rcorn79135]

1970 Chevelle SS396 would have a 350-horse hydraulic lifter engine or 375-horse solid lifter engine, not 325 horsepower. There was a 330-horse version of the 396 (402 cubes in 1970) but it wasn't available in the SS.

[@chadhaire1711]

375 gross is only 305 hp net

[@rcorn79135]

@@chadhaire1711 Yes, the manufacturers rated the engines at gross hp up until around 1970 before giving hp ratings as net. Regardless of gross or net, even the hottest engines of the day back then are nothing like the hp and performance of modern engines with smaller displacements.

[@chadhaire1711]

@@rcorn79135 yep--newer ones are better in every way

[@popduce841]

3 cars GM Buick should remake: GSX GNX Electra225 or Wildcat

[@davecozzi9721]

That's a ton of GNs in one place at one time and they are actually racing them. The 60-70 muscle could not contain them. I was hoping for the Camaro to do something (I have one) but it did not even make it off the line. Boooo.

[@paulmazzola398]

The Grand National was well ahead of its time and still is very fast compared to some of the pieces shit today.

[@MattStankes-b1q]

A v6 blows away a big block every thing

[@JeffCole-i7b]

Your dreaming.....i was there in the early 70s, the 440 magnums beat the 455s most if the time

[@ianwright6893]

Screw the grand national! Jkjk not really! Being “pushing forties” old and grandps having a 71 skylark 350 Rocket I’m going for the 455 gs. Hahaha the sarcasm in that statement even having a gbody 81 olds cutty supreme myself and I also turned out a ford guy! Hell I was brought home from the hospital in the 71 cause it was by then my uncles car and it had snowed on my bday in march in Tn and dad was working. That 71 was the only car my pa bought new his whole life too!

[@roddycreswell8613]

Turbo the v8s.

[@NoPrivateProperty]

Boomers didn't know what hit em. 60s best smoked by a V6

[@nedaCFilms]

The Boomers engineered, designed and built these cars lol.

[@MrSpartanPaul]

These guys just say words to fill dead air. No clue

[@tracymfnboyd6590]

Left lane wasn't equal

[@darrininverarity4297]

Lane advantage

[@luonsart]

That track was at fault! I'll prepared!

[@davecorning4321]

Hate the gns

These grand nationals with their brake torque;out of the hole😅😅😅😅 I had a 91 formula 350, not a problem