6 KNIVES VS THEIR CLONES

[@euphoniumguy5smith]

I don't like the idea of people's designs being stolen and not receiving credit. However, companies like Ganzo really do show that some of these larger and more prestigious knife manufacturers need to step up in certain areas.

[@jlogue751]

Well said

[@NeevesKnives]

Very true,

[@rwillaz]

You must be opposed to using an iPhone or Android phone because both platforms steal ideas from the other without acknowledgement.

[@catmandu6776]

Larger more prestigious knife manufacturers cant afford to compete with companies like Ganzo. It costs big money to hire good designers and research for product development. It's easy to produce good quality products for less money when you do nothing but rip off good designs that other companies put a lot of time, money and man power into designing. Ganzo should never be an example of what can or should be achieved, it's exactly the opposite. They are an example of what should never be done and it's a shame that so many people support companies like that with their hard earned money.

[@DennisdeJong]

Guess they just improved instead of reinventing the wheel.

[@olafkliemt1145]

the Ganzo heat treatment on the 440C is excellent. good edge retention and no chipping.

[@Monsoonpain]

Last time , different vid...people were mocking me because I said 440c is great with the RIGHT heat treatment, and good blade geometry

[@jdisdetermined]

You’re a brave man..

[@richardvirchow3390]

I started my pocket knife collection with inexpensive, sturdy & dependable Ganzo knives. Because I was new to knives, I didn’t know they were clones. They were just great knives..!

[@gheeshin]

Folks say all over KZbin (not saying Jared) buy American made knives/products to support Americans. But, I’m an American. If I buy foreign made products, save 10x the money, and spend it on my family, what's wrong with that? I don't support replicas, but people need to stop with the guilt trip sales tactic. Jared, thanks for using logic. Anyway, I've bought 20+ Two Suns since I started watching your videos, damn son. Alight, I'm done with my high ass rant.

[@diverdave2179]

I am not American, but that was very well said.

[@NeevesKnives]

👊

[@ericpitre4031]

@@diverdave2179 no it was not. China is a communist nation play. ZERO dollars to them!! Yu dig??

[@tonycanniffe2360]

Not American either but I agree. What are some of your fave Twosuns?

[@gheeshin]

@@tonycanniffe2360 I was going to say something blingy like TS328 or TS177, but I'll tell you what I carry most & makes me happy. It's TS76 (stainless steel handle version) & TS49 (D2). TS49 is my first TwoSun; it felt quality like a nice door clunk of a luxery car. TS 76, it took me a several days to sand down all the ridges to make it fit me, love the blade, & it's always on me like body part. Damn, sound like my first date confession. Anyways, I don't care what anybody says, D2 is the shit.

[@Thizlamic]

I am an unapologetic Ganzo guy. The G729 is the PM2 Clone with an axis lock. Its one of my most beloved beaters lol

[@jdearing46]

The whole "clone or design stealing" argument are moot these days. The vaping industry went through the same thing back in the early 2000's. That is until a copy of a "high-end" device got released before the original did. It showed that certain companies were burning the candle at both ends. Chinese quality control has,gotten far better recently and I think they are giving competition to these over priced knives being sold today.

[@General_Kenobi_212]

I've always been against the whole design stealing thing until I looked into how much in parts and labor it (really) costs these companies to make their knives and companies like Benchmade for example especially are ripping us off, they're ridiculously overpriced and even if you did want to pay it anyways to support them and buy a USA made product their quality control is terrible so your overpaying like crazy for a lesser product (not even equal which is especially messed up), certain companies I'll still support I love my Rat2 and don't see myself replacing it anytime soon I even have a custom hardware and a deep carry clip on it, and other Chinese companies like Civivi, QSP, and CJRB make great knives that aren't clones for good prices too I love the knife industry but Ganzo should be a wake up call to not rip people off with prices and get your quality control together....

[@madls051]

Jerad- If you have more examples for videos like this that'd be sweet. I love the compare of contrast of the clones vs the reals,

[@NeevesKnives]

👊

[@alpharibo]

Appreciate the honesty, even if I don’t fully support clones, they still can definitely offer good quality for the price

[@catmandu6776]

Why do you think they can offer good quality for the price? Clones are never acceptable.

[@MsHaiducu]

@@catmandu6776 A well made 30 dollar knife is just as useful as a 200 dollar one. Maybe i just like a certain design but i don t want to spend a lot of money on something that i intend to use daily and abuse. I hate counterfeit knives(the ones that try to pass for something they are not),don t get me wrong but clones are something else entirely.let s face it.People who want a benchmade( or any other premium expensive brand) will buy a benchmade and they will never look at a ganzo.Why souldn t the rest of us have a budget version?I personally don t have a lot of money to spend on knives and, i buy what i can.Also,here in Europe they are far more expensive.

[@eabnamoliben1598]

@@catmandu6776 clones are not acceptable even though they perform better?

[@catmandu6776]

@@eabnamoliben1598 if the company producing the clone is paying royalties to the company that came up with the original design then clones are perfectly acceptable, if that's what you're into.

[@edewar6004]

They're not clones, and most people who buy Ganzos would never realistically pay hundreds of dollars for the original design. So I'd say they're not taking much business from the originals because they're not the same market.

[@toddcarr.]

Got to say that Ganzo makes a good Axis lock system and they do a good job on their 440C and D2. Say what you will but they do offer great value for the money. Thanks for the look see and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable

[@Monsoonpain]

Meanwhile, I've gotten bashed in the comments for saying, "440c is great with proper heat treatment, and proper blade geometry ". Today people praise Ganzo 440c

[@ronstoner1823]

I'll take Ganzo knives over ridiculously priced knives any day of the week and twice on Sunday. A lot of the KZbin knife snobs won't even look at them, which is hilarious to me, watching them throw ridiculous amounts of money away. If I break or lose a Ganzo, which has never happened, I can easily replace it, usually for less than a $20 bill.

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

Ganzo makes a killer knife for the money.

[@СветославДимитров-з3ш]

Yeah I have fh 61 in house design... It's awesome

[@ericpitre4031]

EF too

[@rwillaz]

The Ganzo 727M has a 440C blade. The Ganzo 727S is my favorite EDC knife!

[@SaigonKick2018]

I own several of the Ontario Rats, both the 1&2. I found the 727M and 727S to be somewhat better. The 727M being smaller than the Rat1 seemed to edc better. The Ganzo handle material seemed higher quality and the Axis style lock/bearings made the knives easier to manipulate.

[@beaurex4756]

The Ganzo 727S is one of my favorite knives. Excellent action, perfect size.

[@Oshianis]

The ganzo g727m is 440c and is on washers. Ganzo also makes a d727m, same knife, except d2 steel and is on bearings.

[@d.eddlemon]

That was a good thought-provoking video. I guess it comes down to what quality blade you prefer and how you are going to use the knife.

[@NeevesKnives]

For sure

[@Mike_TNVol4Life]

The Ganzo 729 is the PM2 clone, not the one shown here. No big deal though

[@brandon_crow1291]

Not sure if they make it anymore but the Ganzo clone of the PM2 is the G729. It was my first and only ganzo and honestly its pretty damn good.

[@mattharvey968]

Thanks for the honest opinions! I’m sure you will get plenty of blow back but I know you can handle that! Ganzo does make a solid axis lock knife.

[@NeevesKnives]

👊

[@yellowdog762jb]

I received a Ganzo FH922 two days ago. I haven't seen another design quite like this one, so I doubt it is a clone. And I have not seen any American made knives made as well using D2 steel, G10, and rollar bearing actions for $25 either. I carried it some yesterday but haven't actually used it on anything. It's a robust knife with a smooth action and good ergonomics. The blade edge bevel is very even on both sides and it literally came shaving sharp. I'm quite taken with the very symmetrical design, and especially the full flat grind on the blade. It's shape reminds me a bit of a folding Kephart bush craft knife. My wife even thought it was a nice looking blade, and she's not into knives she can't use in the kitchen. I selected the bright orange version, which really is a pretty hideous color. But this is the blade I plan to carry while in the woods, and especially over the next few months getting the deer lease ready for hunting season. I wanted something that would be relatively easy to find if I somehow dropped it in the woods. I once dropped a black high end tactical folder at a small park with pretty short grass and never I found it. Lesson learned. Short of affixing a blinking light on the Ganzo, I doubt much else will make it stand out as well as the bright orange color if it is dropped on the ground. This blade is D2, if I could pick the steel, I would have picked 440C because it's a bit easier to sharpen with a natural whetstone, and 440C is also a tad more rust resistant. But once D2 is sharp, it does really hold an edge, so I can live with it. If I had to buy another knife today, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it if it was a Ganzo.

[@cncshorts1075]

I love mine also

[@deparkermearz]

One of the best videos I’ve seen in the community, Thanks!!!!!

[@beaurex4756]

If anyone ever bought a Ganzo and thought it was a Lionsteel, Protek or Rat knife, it's not Ganzo's fault. There's not a better value knife on the market.

[@christopherm903]

Buy the China model by all means, as long as your cool with them being cheaper because of a few reasons. They save by not having to pay a designer by simply ripping off another maker / manufacturer’s designs saving quit a bit on R&D, and paying the designer for their design and of course, their name. They save by not paying a livable wage, many are actually forced into this work, ie. The suicide nets around Apple’s manufacturing facilities. Also, I hope you are cool financially supporting an enemy to our country. Many of these companies are wholly or even partly owned by the Chinese communist party, this is absolutely fact. In my life, as most people’s, where you have so little control of where the items you need in life are made (IPhones, Androids, etc.) where you are literally forced to buy Chinese products, In the things I can control, like my hobbies, I make it a point to spend my money on items specifically NOT made in China. Am I missing out on some pretty great knives out there? ABSOLUTELY! But, its my choice, and that choice is helping American makers thus helping them grow and make better and better designs. JMHO…

[@NeevesKnives]

I agree, the 🇺🇸 made knives are proudly owned with great warranty and great service, they pay homage to those they use designs from and is more honorable to carry and use. Don't miss understand the video I support USA regardless the price difference.

[@legendaryschander78]

We in Europe dont have this crazy and absurd mindset.....honestly who cares? If they want that knife they can have it. why do american's carry Glock's then and not their 1911's? Can somebody enlighten me on why it's such a huge problem?

[@darthvaper6745]

My views on clones is not important. I love this channel. But there are a few knife KZbinrs that have gone after KZbinrs in the past big time for promoting clones and caused real drama. Hope they don't see this. Good luck 🤞😃🤞

[@NeevesKnives]

These technically are not real clones, I used the word because it's catchy, no one thinks these knives are what the design is from, which I agree with not supporting

[@mannhm3311]

BAAM!!!! GANZO ARE THE BEST FOR BEGINNER ON BUDGET PRICE...REALLLY BARGAIN CLONE

[@DullPoints]

I world have loved to have seen the clones of the clones as well. On Aliexpress and ebay for around $5 you can get true garbage that looks like a PM2.

[@TrevorWesleyOfficial]

Man. I love Ganzos. I have a benchmade griptillian but for some reason I reach for the ganzos more often! Also easier to get a bigger collection going than only buying crazy expensive knives.

[@alphadawg81]

I appreciate your honesty in this matter! Also, there is a Paramilitary 2 lookalike Ganzo, the G730. It runs on washers and has a liner lock. And then the G729, same shape but with an oddly shaped thumb hole and crossbar lock. PS: I'd choose 440C over D2 any day.

[@darrenpersicke5266]

I just got the Ganzo “RAT FINK” as some call it. I also got one for my buddy. Once I get the axis lock broke in it will be great. I’ve seen the lock is hit or miss from the factory. It’s one of my favorite Ganzo I’ve bought so far. You can call me a Ganzo Lover and I’m proud of it. You can’t beat their quality for the price. Awesome video Jared.

[@petemitchell6788]

I got one 4 years ago. The lock fails easily. I’m not sure why Neeves keeps saying it without testing it himself. He’s basing it on Benchmade’s version.

[@weaponxnova6794]

I have 4 Ganzo knives and I always recommend them to my friends as being a great knife for the money. I have tortured my 720 for about 8 months now, and never had a problem other than basic sharpening.

[@MrKoblepot]

Same, for my bro working outdoors, good retention, safe knives, can afford to lose 1 in the wild.

[@DouglasRosser]

Ganzos have their uses. I personally own two Spydie PM2's but I use a G729 to fidget with. It's actually harder to reverse "flick" the G729 so it's good practice!

[@NeevesKnives]

Bang

[@Rzut-Oka]

One the best knives material I see last time👍👍👍 First great knife colection and taste 👍 Ganzo is a king and big company feel them breath on they back is very good for us, customers. Mass people buy that knife and real use it, that G733 is doscontinued 😢😢 i dont have this in my collection:/ I have 20pcs Ganzo knives and all of that is great! I don have nothing from that new D2 steel line because they made medium-small knife, I like medium-big, and prices is much higher, they also use liner lock that in my opinion is step back. If that third knife made by Ganzo, they will by the same or even far better that orginal one ;) Thanks to enlan, ganzo, sanremnu, tekut, brothers -people start collection folding knives. Thanks for super material, l 100% agree with You 😎

[@Mr-kn6uk]

Gday from WA!!!!! You broke my hart when you said the Lion Steel does not hold up and its a D2 blade , I loved the look of that bugger. Iv been looking at a Ganzo for sometime maybe the F720, just not sure about buying knock offs. That Benchmade 940 looks "BANGING" big jump in $$$s from the Ganzo but USA made goes along way. If pos buy local everytime they say, you wana try buying local down here they all think we are miners on 5K a week. Cant put down my Kizer Flip Shank at the mo, "flipping" ripa of a knife, she is a TANK but a small TANK. Cheers Cobber and all the best from the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@NeevesKnives]

I think Ganzo us mostly doing there own designs now and are basically just selling off what's left of the older stuff

[@mikeborrelli193]

My US made Ruger LCP2 cost me $269. Do you think that materials machining and liability insurance is more, or less expensive to produce than a pocketknife? US made or not, i refuse to by anti 2nd amendment supporting Benchmade products because im not a sucker, or a mark for conmen advertising departments. BTW, whether theyre made in US or in China , all of these screw constucted folders are made in the same Okuma 5 axis CNC milling machines. They are stupid simple to make and the Chineseare probably dumbfounded that americans will zpend the same 250$ to buy a Benchmade or Spyderco knife as they will a 77cc Holtfforma knockoff Stil chainsaw from Amazon.. Round eye has more money than brains.

[@herbertgearing1702]

As far as the Lionsteel, I would recommend the ganzo if you plan to use the knife (you know for cutting things). The lionsteel I had was in sleipner which I love, but the grind is so thick and the lock so delicate that I just decided to regrind mine into something slicey and useful and destroy any resale value. It was an awesome user with a nice convex on the thin behind the edge regrind. The ganzo can get you pretty close to the same place for a lot less money and not feel bad about grinding it down.

[@Whipacharm127]

I also don't like design stealing, but your absolutely right Benchmade is pricing themselves out of the market with some of their prices. I knew Les when he was alive. I also don't like what happened with the gun thing that happened. Can't get into it here but if you want to know reach out. I have a load of Benchmades but have definitely slowed down on recent purchases. Great review Jerad.

[@escapetherace1943]

lol I won't buy benchmade because of their political stunt(s) before that I wanted one. Was gonna buy one too they shot themselves in the foot, boycotted 4lyfe

[@kaizen5023]

The Ganzo 720 is amazing, I used it to open a big can of refriend beans and it got a bit dull but was super easy to sharpen up again -- their 440C is amazing! You can definitely rely on this knife as a heavy duty camping folder, it is a budget beast!

[@mikerobbins5049]

I like a good knife and have a few. 2 Bench made’s that I really like. But like you said, they are just getting so stupid expensive. I much prefer to lose or break a inexpensive knife tha a $150 one. I just keep a small sharpener close most of the time and if need be, spend a few minutes touching the edge up ….

[@HarryBallsich]

I'm loving this clone comparison stuff. No one else does it. Really shows if you want to be cheap you get junk. Have you thought of comparing alliexpress clones?

[@ZENO357]

To buy a Ganzo or not? Tough call - seems like good quality for the price, but I do have a problem with the company blatantly ripping off other companies' designs. Maybe that's how they save money - no design department... It's much easier to respect companies like Civivi (and Sencut), CJRB, QSP, etc. who have original designs as well as excellent quality. But maybe I will wind up buying a Ganzo one day and maybe they will at some point come up with some original designs. Good video.

[@petemitchell6788]

I’m not trying to troll at all, The first Ganzo I got was the RAT 1 clone with Axis lock. A medium strength spine whack on a 2x4 overcame the lock repeatedly. Based on my personal experience I don’t trust them.

[@billycarr7446]

So many of the knives that get reviewed here are $300+ and are out of stock withing hrs. Those knives get fidgeted with for a day or two and then get stored away and only brought out to fondle once every few months. Us poor folk can buy a chinese counterfeit and it will be 95% of the $600 OG knife for well under $100. And wwe getr to use them as an EDC and not die inside if we fumble it, hits the concrete drive. Yes, a lot of clones are junk. A lot are very very good. Bitch all ya want but like fentanyl, illegal aliens and counterfeit knives... they are here to stay.

[@nhardman]

No way would I choose the knockoff over the Benchmade 940. I have 4 940's. Who cares if you can buy 15 of the knockoffs for the price of a 940? I only carry one knife at a time, so I value quality and the 940 is a lot of very strong blade and for a knife that you can barely feel in your pocket.

[@lancasteredc7773]

Listen for all those who think a ganzo feels the same as the original design it’s so NOT true… I had a ganzo spyderco para 2 clone and you can feel the g10 was cheaper feeling and the action wasn’t as smooth as a real spyderco 😂😂 I’m no fan boy at all but I will never forget the day I open up a USA made spyderco para 2 and 3 and was left speechless on the quality and sharpness they had and the performance was insane! They are too completely different knives if you ask me…

[@olddirtybooger]

I loved the axis lock. I loved it when it was the ultra lock by cold steel. I worked outdoors, knives would typically be abused daily. I tried to avoid it. But, nature of the business. Tool replacement is a part of the budget. Cold steel had the recon line. 4-ish inch blade, nice and broad, ground down pretty thin for an over built pocket hatchet. Easy to get a reasonable edge. My glove size is XL, at the very minimum. I needed and enjoyed the bigger handles. Ocassionally, I would baton those knives, with a framing hammer. The face of the hammer was ground smooth and offset to my taste. The chamfer on the blade stopped any mushrooming before it became an issue. Those old knives were great. Then comes Benchmade. I wasn't concerned about the legal stuff. I expected an immediate release of a competing product. With similar qualities, but likely at a premium. Because, "they are taking their ball and going home". If anyone wants to play, they will have to pay. Fair enough. To this day Benchmade has never released a competing product. They did make generations of poorly made "gentleman's knives" with that lock. Decades of knives too small, and too weak for my needs. All the while monopolizing, the obviously strongest lock. This left me pretty sour on Benchmade. I recently made the mistake of buying my first Benchmade. My state recently legalized autos. I thought I should go out and get myself a snappy side opener that looked generic enough not to raise eyebrows. The Benchmade claymore fit the bill perfectly. Snappy as can be. Crappy plastic scales. No one would be the wiser. My first legal auto would be a beater out of the box. It is definetly, as persued. Cheap, generic, and beater like a farm truck. I was cool with that. I signed up for that. I paid entirely too much for that experience. I bought from a well known retailer in person. I watched the guy open my box. I pushed the button, thing didn't fall apart, so I bought it. I got it home and started exploring the edge. There is no edge. Someone roughed it in on a 400 grit belt, never got a burr, and just shipped it. My first Benchmade feels like a cheaper knockoff, of its cheap knockoff self. Also my last Benchmade. I wish I could sell it. I really can't let it leave my possession. I'll sharpen it, and put it to purpose. See what it could be. Maybe I will like it in time. I would like it at $60 maybe even $100.

[@Mr.Fields.]

Get it nice n sharp. It’ll grow on you.

[@thecjwolfpack]

I'm glad I'm not the only one with this opinion

[@terpdx]

Yes, Benchmades are overpriced and their grivory scales feel distressingly flimsy, but I haven't had any complaints about functionality or performance. They have polymer handles in other materials (Noryl GTX, etc.) but I don't have any personal experience with them - all of mine are either G-10, CF, or aluminum. Also, I wouldn't judge a folder by how well it handles abusive use in the outdoors, especially batoning. That's what fixed blades are for. It's great if you find a knife that can handle that kind of usage, but I'm not knocking any folder which can't. It would be like complaining your sports car can't carry enough lumber. Wrong tool for the job.

[@diverdave2179]

Great of you to be so candid about it, Jerad. I have a Griptilian but also have a Ganzo coming in , so thanks for the review. I'm in Asia, but I do appreciate the cachet that "Made In USA" still has.

[@gottagoMS123]

Ganzo makes amazing knife and steel. Their old knives takes the design of other knives, but all their newer original design FH series are amazing D2 steel knives with the smoothest action on bearing... With the same price as their older knives at $25. Can't beat ganzo for value.

[@bert2530]

Just checked out Ikiv. They copy everything, Spyderco, Benchmade etc. And for peanuts. Cant be any good.

[@voltsoftruthBSbuster]

You shouldn't have to apologize for the fact that the clone is better than the original. If anything it should put the original companies to shame and drive them to step ip their game. To stop putting profits and greed ahead of producing the best possible version of their product out of latest hight quality materials because putting your customers ahead is what matters and elevates a company above all others. And Ganzo are superb knives sadly underrated. They are a serious version of Civivi. Ganzo uses D2 steel, ceramic bearings, on G2 and Carbon Fiber handles all under $25. Their action are one of the smoothest and lightning fast, compared even to $300 dollar knives.

[@PatheticPeasant]

You should do a video on the counterfeit benchmade knives on wish. You can get a bugout for $8 and an auto for $20. If you have 0 experience with knives you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. They even use the trademark butterfly.

[@justanotherguy5440]

440C over D2 blade 🔪 steel...???? Ontario knife company is done.

[@stevegareau123]

Great video I don't really care what people buy I started buying cheap then more expensive but I'd still buy a ganzo if they can incorporate some things that makes us like the expensive ones for less than half I say why not Great vid

[@zitronenfalte]

This first ganzo is no clone. The resemblance is minimal / the design of the Italian isn't really special or outstanding. The handle has to have a shape, right? It does everything better - from price to functionality - so calling this thing a clone is kind of a insult. Ganzo is doing a great job on selling well working edc knifes that may take some inspiration from others but on the other hand this distincts it's self by so much you can call it original.

[@seanperson2032]

I'm sorry, $180 for D2 with an aluminum handle? Those are the materials of a $40 amazon knife.

[@rickyhurtt5568]

$160 or $20 and a lot of people would rather pay 160 for the name. Makes no sense to me. Must be cause I can't see paying that for any knife

[@TerrellWillams]

Ganzo doesn’t do clones or steal. They are inspired by the original’s in some cases better.

[@paullmight42]

i have the spyderco ganzo clone with the axis, i hate it lol...the axis and action both suck pretty badly...i tried loosening the pivot which helped a lot but then there is blade play...but for 20$, it is what it is lol

[@kylelindberg7771]

I can't bring myself to give money to support the companies that steal designs, regardless of the execution.

[@andrewsalvador7593]

That was the reason why I bought the Ganzo instead of the Lionsteel SR1. 440C vs D2 but a difference of more than $100 in price? Hmmm, not a brainer.

[@DeerUNIT42]

I miss this version of Neeves Knives. Feels a bit sold out now comared to this mindset in this video

[@ncode03]

Is this a channel for cheap skates? Lol. The channels isn't but by the looks of the comment section, the viewers sure are.

[@D2G10]

D2 is the best budget steel period. It is semi-stainless so plenty enough in 99% cases.

[@rickyhurtt5568]

Short of putting ZT or Benchmade on the knife as we all know it's really hard to make a new knife and not expect it to look like some other knife

[@terrybest8973]

I'm the same but I believe ganzo is just as good as Benchmade maybe prolly better

[@bushguy9710]

I tried the Ganzo Rat clone and I couldn’t use the Axis lock so I’m curious if you lubed it or loosened it. Granted I only played with it at my local cutlery store

[@NeevesKnives]

No I didn't do anything but they have different versions some with bearings which are super smooth right away, the ones on washers might need a bit of break in

[@KrankyYankyee]

I would love an Asher nomad, it's my son's initials Asher Knapp

[@mybaddadventures144]

Ganzo does alot of designs better but it's so hard for me to buy these knives personally unless it's on the 2ndary market, but that goes for any Chinese made knives it's only a 2ndary market purchase

[@sawmillsam7156]

You have become my go to knife guy............................................bang!

[@DingoNovember]

Really love Ganzo knives, great quality and cheap too

[@faampie]

Big fan of Ganzo knives. Great value for money.

[@nebulaM16]

If you don’t have the money to throw it away, then the quality clones are the way to go.

[@edwardfletcher7790]

I'm not paying US$160 for D2 steel !

[@bowmoneydrums]

been dissapointed with every lionsteel ive tried

[@OLMmedic]

Have you looked at the hinderer stop pins. They are tiny. I just dont get it

[@mancaveedc7596]

Spydie one Kinda looks like a flat ground gayle bradley.

[@chriselliott484]

Theres a ganzo similar to the bm valet

[@mitch_edc]

Yeah…. I don’t support clones. Not a huge fan of this video, though I generally really like your other content.

[@NeevesKnives]

Yeah I used the word clone because it's easy to understand these I would say are more stolen designs but not completely clones as you know what they are with out a second look, but I do agree I'd rather have the real thing myself, it's something you can be proud of

[@lll9416]

Chinese R&D = Reverse-engineer and Duplicate

[@1980JPA]

Do you think the plans for Asher's knives "walked" off the line of his OEM into another department, or across the street?

[@NeevesKnives]

No I think the oem double crossed but they stopped making them now

[@iamnoone6607]

Ganzo started my affliction.

[@snakeinthegrass4726]

Nice video. Thanks for the comparisons

[@felinebline7154]

No patents get knocked off. They loose.

[@charleswood2182]

I think you're right to point these things out.

[@Matthew.envagyok]

we would like to see more videos of this topic

[@GreyGhostR1]

Cultural appropriation tho

[@AudibleVisibIe]

I was definitely thrown off when I saw the Asher clones

[@nicholaschristodoulou5766]

Bought a coldsteel ti lite clone and the action is smoother than the real one and it cost £4 instead of £70

[@NeevesKnives]

That’s not necessarily a good thing, as for that knife it’s about strength and stability I would say those are built to be as strong as possible with the most amount of smoothness, adjust the pivot if you want it less tight.

[@CDS.26]

Did Ganzo build an entire company off ripping off other knife models? Lol

[@jamess3241]

Yes

[@johnmarchetti3815]

I have a Schrade Divergent that looks almost exactly like the Asher Nomad. I had no idea that it was copying that model. I have not handled the Asher, but i will say the action on the Schrade is amazing 🤔

[@Gabor.Bujdoso]

I just ordered the Divergent, I never had a Schrade knife before, so I'm really curious how the build quality is. And yes, it looks exactly like the Nomad! 😀

[@xWebdriverTorso]

Anyone know where to buy a Centri?

[@RamMyuay]

I bought Ganzo

[@jd4edc]

I know you already know this but some of that price difference is the materials you get, plus Benchmade is offering free life time sharpening. I feel like we don’t take that into consideration enough when talking about their prices. Look at CRK and they charge something for a spa day. Also sorry to hear about your Flytanium scales. 2 of my 3 fit perfect and the one the drill holes were off causing centering issues but easy fix. Love the concept of this video though. Fun to see it done. 👊

[@NeevesKnives]

For sure! And I recommend just going with the real brand always, but I understand being the guy who needs a knife but doesn't have the extra $ that still wants something reliable. These are not actual clones in my book o they wouldn't be on the channel, and the one I did show next to the asher I did not link because i know what happened 👊 ganzo knives will never be mistaken for the real thing

[@kendrajones984]

The knife sharpening isn't free and in my opinion if you can't sharpen a knife you shouldn't own one. And Mr. Neeves you'll and most here are getting confused between clones and counterfeit products.

[@jd4edc]

@@kendrajones984 that’s your opinion and your entitled to it but If a person wants to spend their money on a tool and then pay to have it professionally sharpened that’s their choice. I cannot comment on your clone statement, it isn’t really clear what your point is. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mcronn]

So... why show Amazon links to knives that are no longer available ??

[@NeevesKnives]

They probably sold out, when I added them they were available, after using the link you can look around and see if you can find something else or maybe a different option they have

[@SkunkPunch73]

Honestly I think ganzo do a good job for the money But and it’s a massive but i can in my own mind find anyway of justifying basically stealing other peoples idea’s or efforts they put into designing and going over countless times of tweaking their visions till they get them right.Just for another company to then make a version that is more or less the same apart from the locking mechanism which was originally made by benchmade so I personally wouldn’t bother with them but that’s just me. Have a beautiful day J&K stay safe and healthy both and i hope that this doesn’t bring in the trolling toxic mob that will miss the point of the video 😘👍🏼

[@NeevesKnives]

I believe they are now selling off old stock and going into only in house designs

[@SkunkPunch73]

@@NeevesKnives now that would make a lot more sense for them I know they do make a great quality product especially for the money as I do have one of their products it is solid the only meh thing is the 440 steel but. I picked it up age’s ago from my local store they had a batch of them. I think it must of been a here look at what we can do type of thing but it was one of their generic ones not a copy well I say that I honestly hand on heart am not sure but it’s nothing I seen and thought it reminded me of, I only had it as Rich the owner was banging on about how good they was and fair play it is a solid piece. So if they do just go with in house stuff and up the blade quality a bit then they could well start pushing some of the others aside in all honesty. Fair play though Jerad big up to you for actually grabbing the bull by his balls and swinging the fecker around😂 I know the 80% of the knife lot wouldn’t have touched this subject for fear of the backlash from the retards that are out here. I know it took guts but you have earned a hell of a lot of respect for having that guts!! It just makes you even more of a true person in my eyes brother and if (which I hope not) some stop following you then they was not worth your time in the first place so fuck em! Much love J&k have a great day and stay safe and healthy both 😘👍

[@lifespanofafry1534]

Love my Ganzo F720.

[@caleb3848]

At 21 minutes when he introduced the Asher I truly thought that the clone was going to be the Schrade divergent. It's a $30 axis lock that mimics the appearance perfectly. It's Aus-8 and g10

[@DSNugent91]

Im not American which makes this very easy for me as I couldn't care less about the whole "American pride,must be US Made or its garbage" now are all American collectors like that?, nope but a lot are. For example, I've seen non US KZbinrs getting verbally harassed and their character attacked all because they've recommended a ganzo or similar. In the EU knives are very expensive, a benchmade 940 in the US is around $195 where as in the EU its around $275... exact same knive, same everything, just without the sharpening service and warranty etc.... (paying $50 minimum each way shipping kinda ruins that and then the risk of the knife just going missing, couple that with benchmade being very reluctant to just send out replacement parts to the customers) When I started collecting I could've only dreamed of owning some of the knives I own now. I've had $25 knives that I like and carry more than some of my $500+ knives. I own knives that where made in the EU,North America,South Africa, East Asia.... many countries and states across them. I have $450 US Made knives that have specs,materials,tolerances,fit and finish, etc, that are worse to a Chinese made knife in the same price range. The place the knife is manufactured isn't a indicator of quality. I get the whole thing of having country pride, I do... but hear me out. That $450 US Made knife you own, was the cardboard for the box,the materials for the bags,pouches,cases, materials for the knife,tools used to make the knife, machines used, etc etc... was all that made in the US? more than likely not, big US companies still need help from external markets when it comes to commodities. Yes, all that stuff can 100% be sourced and made I the US, but do you think companies making hundreds of thousands to millions are going to pay an extra $XXX just so the cardboard in their boxes,ink printed on the boxes,fabric for pouches, etc can all be from within the US...definitely not. Also a lot of amazing US designers simply can't afford to have their knife design made in America or the EU so they'll do what every other business and country does which is to find someone who can. Think of all the brands.... Reate,We,Rike,Civivi,Kizer,Cjrb,Kansept,Twosun,Bestech,Artisan,bastion.... now think of all the US designers that have had their dreams meet reality thanks to these companies, all the US families that are employed by them,designing and selling for them, etc,etc, the list is endless. You strictly not buying a knife because of the country its made in is also hurting America and American Designers with families and dreams. Do I agree with some of the shit that goes on in China, no I don't... but I also don't agree with Americans not having access to life saving medication,doctors or procedures that can and will save their life or make living life more bearable. Every country has something Arse hat backwards about themselves. Don't buy counterfeits and don't judge something or someone just because of your own personal incredulities and their financial situation. HATE-FREE-EDC! Catch me here or on Insta if anyone would like to have a respectful further discussion on the matter.

[@NeevesKnives]

I'm not sure what you mean about 🇺🇸 not getting life saving treatments, we have access all medical if your poor you get on state insurance which is free, but i agree and disagree with many things you said, reasons why the 🇺🇸 can't make knives the same price are because of those very things you disagree with from China, we have many regulations like environmental, to insurances, to many others, people that scream buy 🇺🇸 is because we see what's happening, meaning all of our work, supplies, businesses, exc.. are going over seas, which is making us less and less self sustainable. I understand you don't have to worry about that which is fine, i understand both sides of the coin. And I like knives across the board from all places but i support 🇺🇸 #1. I personally don't show actual counterfeit knives, these ganzo are clearly not trying to look like the knife they took the design from.

[@DSNugent91]

@@NeevesKnives I agree with all that, I mentioned the American healthcare system because its what came to mind, I didn't mean to offend, it was just the first Arsehat thing about the states I taught of ... I've friends from the states who have to ration medication etc or just simply not being able to afford a doc so they wait to see if it gets worse or better and friends in debt due to a week in the hospital ( feel like I'm getting off topic here 🤣) the point I was trying to make was every country has something arse hat backwards about it. I'd say about 15% of my collection is American made but 95% of my collection was purchased from America. This is for the people on the other side of the argument.... just because a knife wasn't made in the US doesn't mean it isn't supporting US job's and its economy.

[@lawrencewang3327]

Hey bud! In all the videos I've watched where you mention benchmade, you've never mentioned their LifeSharp service. I understand there are MANY affordable ways of sharpening a knife yourself but some people just find comfort in the word "factory condition". Perhaps it's something you can bring up in the future? To many, this guarantee is a significant value proposition.

[@rubenabrego6762]

Beet that dead horse 🐴 Benchmade is getting outta hand with there prices!!!

[@NeevesKnives]

👊

[@lahummer5759]

Ganzos are good copies. Having lost a Spiderco over the side working in the marine industry. It’s less painful when your knife takes the seabottom challenge.

[@robertshadbolt3056]

I'm always off an opinion that an edc knife, shouldn't be high end, always carry something you don't mind loosing , the ganzo gives you a great option, quality well made knives at an amazing price.

[@AudibleVisibIe]

Great idea for a video