The Legend of Zelda NES - First Quest Vs. Second Quest - Part 2 - with Hungry Goriya | Nefarious Wes

[@hungrygoriya]

It's great to finally see how it all ends. Thank you so, so much for asking me to make this video with you! It's no surprise that you did a fantastic job putting all of this together, and I am really proud to be a part of it all.

[@NefariousWes]

You're welcome! And thanks for lending your talents for this epic project! I honestly wouldn't have even gotten this off of the ground if you hadn't inspired me with your streams and your own video (which is still my favorite of yours). I had been sitting on the idea for four years after all. Working with you was an incredibly painless and inspiring process, and I'd love to collaborate again sometime in the future. We make a great team! Just wish my mic sounded as good as yours. 😀

[@hostileX7]

I only watched this because of Hungry Goriya 😊!

[@hungrygoriya]

@@hostileX7 Wes' backlog is great! I hope you'll check out more of his videos too!

[@nobodyimportant8859]

​@@hungrygoriyathe map for the first quests 8th level is a side profile of a lions head. it's like the master key

[@Cavman22]

In the 2nd quest: After I finish level 3, I go to level 6 and get the ladder and leave. Then go and grab that heart container on the eastern part of Hyrule. It makes fighting level 4 much easier. You'll then have enough heart containers from finishing level 4 and the raft to get the magic sword. It's definitely not worth the trouble to fight level 5 with only the white sword. Level 4 is troubling enough with only the white sword. Great job!!

[@Jopo1226]

I prefer to go to level 8 beat it to have the magical sword and wand for 4. 4 is so grueling.

[@patrickhanlon932]

The ape peeing into his own mouth is something I was not expecting to see today.

[@cristianotesta3027]

Threw me off to say the least :/

[@napkinx4341]

@@cristianotesta3027yeah super gross and unnecessary

[@ZapatosVibes]

The fact that there's an entire new game hidden behind the first really is mindblowing, especially for its time.

[@UncleNemmy]

Super Mario Bros 1 , Castlevania 1 and Castlevania 3 did this as well

[@MasterBalofsky]

Love it ! One note: the red bobble that steals the sword forever can be healed in more ways that just the blue counterpart. Other ways: Medicine Fairy pond

[@Jopo1226]

Triforce grab also so basically anything that recovers full health except blue bubble

[@chriscalvert4609]

A shit load of time must have went into this and it shows. Loved it. Thanks for this!

[@NefariousWes]

You have no idea, man! Thanks and you're welcome!

[@cowardlylion42]

The lion head map in first quest level 8 looks exactly like the lion head on the master key. I thought it was obvious after seeing them side by side.

[@metamyther]

my game would also never save back in the day. i beat Zelda for the first time as an adult

[@GreatWhiteNorthPresents]

Great work both of you! Always a pleasure to see your videos. In depth and entertaining.

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks, man.

[@crazyjohnt8012]

Well done guys. That Zelds commercial is the one I remember from back in the day. Also good job to RedAux

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks! Yup, that's the one I remember. Can't recall ever seeing the "rap" one * shudder * . Yeah, glad RedAux was able to contribute.

[@crazyjohnt8012]

@@NefariousWes same here. Don't think I saw the rap commercial until I saw it on the KZbins

[@seth2111]

t took me manyy years to learn you can kill Dodongos by placing a bomb early and aving it blow up in their face stunning them, then killing tem with a single sword stab lol

[@scorpionsapprentice3248]

level 6 i think is supposed to be link's head.

[@SQGReviewShow]

You two did a fantastic job presenting NOT ONLY the differences between the two quests, but also presented it in a thorough, completionist way that'll be extremely helpful if I ever attempt the 2nd quest again. I beat it on GBA, but I recall needing a text guide for the more cryptic segments. Especially for Ganon's tower. Also loved the observations of the map layouts. I never noticed Ganon's head was the shape for the second quest version of level 9.

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks, man! Whenever I do a 'Vs' video, I cover EVERYTHING. There are actually a few minor things that we missed, such as the old entrance to Level 6 is a 'Secret to Everybody' room, but nothing too crucial. Give the second quest another go. It's a lot of fun!

[@CaptainAlgebra]

I'll have to take on this challenge at some point. Definitely a very cool video, Wes! I love how the end shows how much you died in both quests.

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks, man! You definitely should! I only died four times on my original footage, but my cap card started having issues with the final two dungeons of the second quest, and I wasn't pleased with the quality of the footage, so I played through it again to get better footage and ended up dying a total of nine times. I killed myself a lot just to get out of dungeons quicker rather than walk all of the way back out of them after getting what I needed.

[@Ryan_Butterfield]

Beat the first quest as a kid in the 80s. I had the Nintendo Power magazine with all the info for the second quest but never beat it....until tonight as a 36 year old! Lol. I found the second quest more enjoyable. It’s much harder and the dungeon layouts are more of a challenge. Also with not being as familiar with it as the first quest it really felt like I was a kid again exploring the world to find everything. After beating the second quest I went straight to KZbin to find a video on it. Watched your part one and two. Loved it. Great work. Thanks!

[@NefariousWes]

That's awesome! The second quest is so much fun! Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@TheReNesance]

Great second part, guys.. This was all terrific! One difference you did miss, there is no ape drinking its own urine in either quest, at least not that I've ever found.

[@NefariousWes]

You sure there aren't any Donkey Kong cameos? Enjoying some lemonade on a hot, Hyrule day? Thanks, man!

[@SaadAzim]

I believe you're thinking of Primal Rage. :P

[@apollosungod2819]

People used to brag about beating Zelda with the wooden sword aka never upgrading it... there's another ego jab.

[@TheGameBeaters]

Well done! It was quick but I appreciate the Pigface band reference. Seriously great job both of you. What a fun ride. Thanks for taking us with you on it.

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks, dude! If anyone would appreciate that Pigface reference, it would be you.

[@theconsolekiller7113]

Never did the second quest but very cool to see a detailed breakdown. Its good they changed it up and didnt just change the hitpoints.

[@NefariousWes]

I had a blast playing it. Actually had to play through it several times for footage, cuz some of it got corrupted.

[@theconsolekiller7113]

@@NefariousWes Nice. Very classic game. I enjoyed beating it on emulation many years later. The second quest I never tried but it shows they put alot of work into adding it, since most people probably never beat the first quest.

[@8BitGlitch79]

Yay! Part Two! Just as good as the first. What a great mini-documentary on the differences of the two quests. Awesome job.

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks, bud!

[@edr777]

Great stuff guys and I loved hearing your very different stories of how you discovered the second quest. Man this brought back so many memories. When I was a kid in the 80s I somehow slogged through the second quest after my friends told it was the same as the first one...come to find out none of them had even tried to get through it. It was so different and I had to find out what was at the end. My mom had assisted by drawing these amazing colorful grid maps for the final dungeon in the first quest complete with every enemy, hazard and item in each room. For the second quest it was all hands on deck in my house and we spent many nights mapping out the final dungeon for the second quest. It was so much work and trial and error to discover it all on our own. However after I saw the ending and found out they were making a sequel my friends took me a lot more seriously as a gamer. Then came pre-ordering Zelda II via the Nintendo Fun Club news only to be told that they "ran out of computer chips" and the game was delayed. It took me about 1.5 years to finally get my own copy...I still say that computer chip shortage was a load of B.S. :)

[@hungrygoriya]

Games were really family affairs back then. I'm sure you have some wonderful memories playing that game together. I'm glad you finally got to see that ending!

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks! I played Zelda for the first time with my dad, so I have memories of that. And the time I was playing and my mom got impatient with me and turned off the NES before I could save it. I started crying cuz I thought I had lost all of my progress. Didn't know that the last save would still be on the cart. Phew. Did you watch that Xmas video that I did on Zelda II a couple of years ago, where I tell the story of getting it for Xmas 1988? I think the chip shortage was BS too, cuz Nintendo still pulls that shit to this day.

[@edr777]

@@NefariousWes Hey Wes those are pretty funny stories...my parents never played Nintendo games but for some reason my mom loved to helped out with Zelda...wish I still had those maps but they are long gone. I do remember that Zelda II special...you are really lucky to have received it back in 1988. It was 1990 or so before I finally found a copy. It was so frustrating because the Fun Club News did a big article about Zelda II complete with pictures and I also had The Official Nintendo Strategy Guide which showed the first 3 levels as I recall. So I had all this info about a game that I wanted to play so bad but it just wasn't available. My local video store would charge us up the ass to rent it and I hated them for it. They still pull this kind of crap today? That's insane.

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

Facts: canonically, the Master Sword appeared in A Link to the Past. The three swords in Zelda 1 were the wooden sword, the white sword and the magic sword.

[@doug.navarone2037]

Good work guys...this was a fun watch. Both earned a sub

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks! This video took a TON of work, so I appreciate it!

[@LonnieLawless]

This should have way more views and likes. Really glad I stumbled upon this pair of videos. Subbed for more content.

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks, and I agree! Feel free to share it. That's more than what KZbin does for me.

[@ecmyersvids]

Another great job! (Except for that ape clip.) I'm going to revisit this if I get stuck whenever I replay the game. It's been so long since I played either quest, it'll be like a new game to me. Looking forward to your next collaboration!

[@NefariousWes]

Ha ha, c'mon, that ape is way too funny. I laugh hard every time I see that clip! I'm not sure how helpful this video would be for the second quest, other than showing you where the items are located, cuz it's just bang, bang, bang, info thrown at you. Thanks, man.

[@garysloan9793]

I like the ape clip

[@MrJemoeder1990]

the ape clip was the best part

[@PragmatikReviews]

Amazing job you two! Great to see it all come to a close. I'm sure you both enjoyed destroying ganon one more time!

[@NefariousWes]

So much so that I just beat both quests on stream tonight! Phew. I'm beat. Thanks, man.

[@BigRetroShow]

Great part 2 guys nicely done. I can tell you guys had to do a lot of research and playing of both quests to pull these two episodes off. And believe me, it shows. Quality content guys! Nicely done

[@NefariousWes]

Actually, I don't think we did much research on this at all. I have the first quest memorized, and we had both played the second quest recently, so it was still pretty fresh in our minds. There were a few things we eventually had to correct, though. This was really a labor of love, and I think that's what really shows here. Thanks a lot, man. Really appreciate it.

[@thehighschooldropout8218]

I beat the second quest about 2 years ago I love this game but I’ll only replay the first quest lol I’m glad I beat this game fully but the second quest is to tedious

[@DoYouNerd]

What a great two-part video by both of you. And the editing is so slick--always enjoy the little visual and audio references! Very awesome of you guys to take us down memory lane...that is, I THINK I beat the second quest....huh...I can't remember now. Well, if not, I've got a good duo of videos to walk me through it!

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks! You know me, always gotta toss in some audio and visual references that exemplify who I am. Not sure this is the best video to use as a walkthrough, but it's definitely a good one to tell you where everything is.

[@DoYouNerd]

@@NefariousWes Honestly, it reminds me of how my buddies and I would use a guidebook to walk the other through a game--we would drop some basic info, but wouldn't hold their hand through it all. I really can't say enough about your editing--seriously, the pacing of the videos themselves, but then with the references--always giving me some quality to shoot for!

[@NefariousWes]

@@DoYouNerd Thanks, that means a lot to me. I appreciate it!

[@billyrenz5815]

Great run through ladies and gents! Both quests are awesome, Quest II is die hard gaming!! Righteous skills!

[@TechnicolorDojo]

I will never get over how obtuse the enemy names are in this game. Great work guys.

[@NefariousWes]

Ha ha, yeah. AVGN made some pretty good jokes about the names. Thanks, dude!

[@aequitasvox2488]

I finished the 2nd quest too. Supposedly their is another ring death mountain ring. Brown ring only found in 2nd quest. I was too frustrated to find it by the end😂

[@maximpact24]

Bravo and well done the both of you. This episode just flew by and left me wanting more. ;)

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks, man!

[@THESHMUPMASTER]

Again, great work both of you! I really really enjoyed these videos and I learned so much that I had no idea about. This is must watch material for any Legend of Zelda fan. You two should collaborate more often ;)

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks, man! I feel it's a much watch for Zelda fans, too. And yeah, I think HG and I should collab again. I offered to do so on her channel next time.

[@Justin-Hill-1987]

I think the map of level 6 in the second quest resembles a cowl.

[@clearlyazul]

i like how you beat the game with the same amount of health at the end lol

[@NefariousWes]

Oh really, did I? I probably noticed that while editing the video, but forgot about it.

[@clearlyazul]

@@NefariousWes Haha yeah i thought it was planned xD

[@SaadAzim]

Great video. It's nice seeing my favorite KZbinrs collaborate. :D The second quest in a remixed world was definitely an interesting idea. IMHO a better implementation of GnG making you beat the game twice for the true ending; but also a spiritual predecessor of SotN's inverted castle.

[@NefariousWes]

Definitely ahead of it's time. Thanks!

[@SaadAzim]

You're welcome.

[@markrich7693]

Dungeon 9 in the second quest is kind of like the third as the same location

[@Justin-Hill-1987]

Talk about giving us the wagon before the horse in Zelda's second quest. Level 4 gives us the book of magic, while level 8 gives us the magical rod. In my opinion, I think it would've made better sense to hide the magical rod in level 4 and the book in level 8. I don't know why Miyamoto San did it this way by giving us the book first in the second quest, but getting that item is optional, as it basically adds the ability to cast a magical fire spell to the magical rod...

[@wallsjr77]

Love these!

[@HelloMyNameIsRED]

I always assumed those "beady eyes" was Ganons snout.

[@ronpowell9461]

Wonderful job! You got yourself a new subscriber! Great content!

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks! Appreciate it!

[@hostileX7]

I can't believe I never knew the dungeons spelled "ZELDA"! As a kid it drove me nuts trying to figure out what, if any, the significance of those first four letters were all about. To this day though, level five still looks more like a 2 to me so I'm sure that's what threw me off. Seeing a Zed would surely have tipped me off 😅! I also never finished the second quest until I was in my late twenties(on GBA). Proud to say however, I did manage to pull that shit off by making my own dungeon maps and smoking Ganon both times with zero lives used(by abusing the soft save/reset trick of course!) without naming the file 'Zelda'. That file is named 'L!NK' and is still chilling on my cartridge from 2008 as I speak 😎!

[@JezElectro13]

Super Mario Bros. Lost Levels/JP 2 = Super mario Bros. + little changes + The Legend of Zelda 1 Second Quest

[@chrisschultz6129]

Quest 2: defeat level 8 after 6, because you will be closer 8 after 6 and you will get the All Key which saves you time in 7 going after keys. Also after giving Grumble Grumble the meat hit pause, up, save, and you will restart the game without losing the meat. Not needed for Q1 but in Q2 where there's much less free rupees it saves a lot of time killing foes for rupees. I still beat Q1 and Q2 at least once a year; along with Ocarina of Time and a Link to the Past. I haven't tried any of the newer games; just never felt the need to.

[@backinthedaygamer]

South of arrow mark lies a secret. Wow! That is tricky. I thought it was advertised as a never ending quest. So no 3rd quest? lol Solid vid and it’s satisfying enough that I feel I don’t have to play through it. Great job you guys!

[@NefariousWes]

I wish there was a third quest! You should really play the second, though. Very rewarding. Thanks, man!

[@Trailblazer162]

I've been playing this game since I was 4 years old in 1989 and I've never heard someone else call the like likes pancakes likes I've been my whole life lol. thanks

[@MakingallthatKaos]

Just wanted to say great videos! This was in my recommended videos ;)

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks! 'Bout damn time KZbin started promoting these videos.

[@neilbottles2597]

This was awesome! Great job!

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks!

[@sdpc9182]

I think level 7 and 8 are supposed to represent the yin and yang symbols

[@autocosm]

7:04 I've never seen the lion's face 7:12 Get the key that looks like a lion's face

[@UncleNemmy]

The last time I played the second quest I beat level 2 first then got the ladder to get to level 8 and make the magic rod and infinite key last longer

[@leader6303]

amazing videos

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks!

[@dfailsthemost]

I must play the first quest. I accidentally only ever played the second quest.

[@NefariousWes]

After the second quest, the first will be a piece of cake.

[@thepolacek]

I have been playing the original Zelda since 87 or 88 and I still have not attempted the second quest. It blows my mind that they had the ambition to make a second quest. It’s not like this was a lazy rehash like the “second quest” in the original super Mario bros.

[@NefariousWes]

I highly recommend it, especially if you've been playing Zelda for over 30 years.

[@thepolacek]

@@NefariousWes Thanks. I'll have to check it out. Wish me luck.

[@NefariousWes]

@@thepolacek Good luck! I just streamed through both quests last night and my thumb is pretty sore.

[@hungrygoriya]

@@thepolacek All the best of luck! I hope you have a great time with it.

[@MarceloKamui]

Nice, awesome job u guys!

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks, man!

[@tokenw1497]

2nd Quest level 6=the wizzrobe hat

[@Dongled]

Interesttiinnnggg that they called in Legend of Zelda 1. It's almost as if they knew there would be a sequel! Well done, gang. This was a tremendous video to take on and honestly, I feel like it would've been better off as a single video. It was a bit jarring to pick up from where you left off and I had to go back and watch the end of the first just to see where you left it. Anyways, I know how long this took you to edit. Some of those shots are CRAZY to put together! Regarding the names of the enemies, when I was a kid I called the Wizrobes the Wizzerbees. And I called the like likes cheeseburgers. What did you use to capture footage? I noticed the lack of transparency of the bubbles (called them skulls back in the day) and the Wizrobes when they move.

[@NefariousWes]

That's cuz I disable the resample to eliminate ghosting, which Vegas does by default. That's how I get my footage looking so clear, but it does come with some minor caveats. It sometimes screws with the transparency effects. Like the clip where I'm pushing the gravestones to release ghosts -- I re-enabled the resample to keep the transparency. And HG and I discussed making the video one or two parts, and felt that it was information overload to keep it all together. I almost felt that part one was too much info to take in at once. Also, I had thought it was gonna be much longer, cuz the script is 6,000+ words, and when I did my Immortal Vs video, that script was 4,000+ words, but was about 45 minutes altogether. Too long for one video. I really don't like going over 30 minutes. And Like Likes have always looked like pancakes to me. Thanks, dude!

[@mielthesquid6536]

About the "Zelda 1" thing: It blew my mind too when I realised this years later. I looked up and this is also written on the original japanese version. In fact, when you know that Zelda 2 was released less than a year after the first one it's no wonder they were already thinking to make a new one. That said, you won't see something like this anymore lol because it would make the Internet in fire. Imagine if in 2017 at the end of BotW it was written "end of BotW 1" lol.

[@disoriented3971]

I seem to remember Ganon taking more hits to destroy in the Second Quest. Edit: I’m probably wrong, see the reply to this comment

[@mielthesquid6536]

No, Ganon is exactly the same in the 2nd quest. Seems unlikely but maybe you didn't find the magical sword?

[@UncleNemmy]

4:55 ❤

[@Jexel999]

I'm scared of the second quest

[@NefariousWes]

I don't blame you.

[@1UpJohn]

Excellent editing as usual. I also appreciate your extensive vocabulary. (^_^)

[@NefariousWes]

Thanks! I appreciate that.

[@scorpionsapprentice3248]

the second quest is a troll fest and with sadness i say it is the best hard mode in zelda because it is the only one to actually have new dungeons and some level design differences. oot master quest and botw master mode are probably follow ups. oracles had the linked versions but they were more like extended versions of the playthroughs.

[@FAITHandLOGIC]

I never beat the 2nd quest

[@NefariousWes]

It's pretty tough.

[@edinhofofao7303]

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