Nemesis Reacts to Caedrel about LEC Comeback Speculations 🤔🔥

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[@louzynerd129]

u can tell nemesis wants to rejoin a pro team so bad but not many options

[@piotrszostakowski416]

According to sources there was plenty of options, but he rejected all of them. Watch Jankos, selfmade, Mickyx or even Abbedagge. None of them were complaining they just prefer to prove others wrong hoping one day they will be at the top roster again.

[@holdthesigninside9223]

Just imagine if every player did what nemesis is doing. Idk y people are glazing him crazy.

[@ninjakittie24]

Team Solo Que sucks

[@louzynerd129]

maybe cause he's one the best midlaners in LEC if not the best rn? @@holdthesigninside9223

[@romantkac7766]

@@holdthesigninside9223 What? make way more money streaming instead of playing on a bottom team for what?

[@ScreamWestSide]

that HRT roster is more G2 than G2 roster

[@Daniel-gx3gd]

?

[@ToadStool125]

they have 3 'core' g2 players from the 2018/19 rosters who most of EU still like more than the current players? @@Daniel-gx3gd

[@nathanhamlett972]

@@Daniel-gx3gdsupposedly they have got verbal agreements with Perkz and Wunder. And they already have Jankos

[@_papasparta_-txc-4730]

I mean its 3 vs 2 so yea xd

[@Daniel-gx3gd]

@@_papasparta_-txc-4730 ok but how do you still take jankos wunder and perkz as g2 players..

[@KishinumaYoshikiLeswaggonator]

I like that Nemesis knows his worth. Like he probably really WANTS to win Worlds, but he wants a team that can keep up with him not a team he needs to carry, because once you get to worlds, only the BEST matter.

[@BestMomentsHD]

U can't win worlds playing outside korea or china, everything is dogshit in the west from system, infrastructure to players, management, methodology. You have to be delusional if u think u have a single chance

[@Monotheist137]

He have not won lec yet. Look at bds no one thought they will go this far.

[@KishinumaYoshikiLeswaggonator]

@@Monotheist137 If I was a pro winning LEC would mean nothing to me, that's just a step for winning worlds. Honestly I might just be weird but from my point of view if pros dont have that mentality then why are they there?

[@rkjj.]

wants to win worlds? bro he didn't even win a minor region title XD

[@CinCinAttic]

@@KishinumaYoshikiLeswaggonator its really fucking hard to win lec, its definitely a respected title what are u on about? but ofc u want to try to win worlds after but thats 1 tournamen 1 month, 1 bad game your out. super bad take

[@themockingjay894]

I think people don't understand how great streaming is, he makes way more money streaming, no stress, he makes his own schedule and joining an average team doesn't guarantee anything, didn't Vetheo perform really good got replaced anyway? Same with Crownie, Trymbi

[@shreeanshmahapatra2313]

Crownie did nothing at worlds

[@slimee33]

@@shreeanshmahapatra2313 did his team do anything? if faker was on bds he wouldnt do anything either

[@dsdsd9955]

@@shreeanshmahapatra2313 his team wouldnt have made it to worlds without him.

[@themockingjay894]

@@shreeanshmahapatra2313 You are just proving my point, carry the team for the whole year, team gets crushed at worlds, nuc had the lowest dmg out of all mids, lost lane to wildcards but ppl will blame crownie anyways, not saying he played well, but how can you say he was the problem?

[@carlod5818]

@@shreeanshmahapatra2313 he got to worlds, thats better then upset perkz bo bwipo odoamne prince or jankos did

[@concept3705]

I’ve been waiting for this guy to come back for like 200 years

[@SDRaygon]

Maybe he has to do like Chovy, join a team thats alright, but not the best, completly outperform and then be picked up big a big team

[@2chainz576]

he is influenced by LS

[@MsSuperBMX]

@@2chainz576 he hasnt spoken to ls in years

[@MD30474]

yeah but he won't, thinks he deserves to just join the best team

[@liqueidonliqui7664]

his ego too big to do that, sadly

[@carenthusiast6748]

The actual smart move but nah let's piss this talent in soloq away

[@alexursu563]

All the other teams that are not G2 and FNC are HARD griefing by not getting this man. Idc who your mid is, he sucks balls compared to nemesis and he could never achieve this man's ceiling.

[@toast5614]

th getting perkz is justified, they have players that want to play with each other rather than the org's decision. XL nemesis could be really good.

[@iwillnoteatzebugs]

he doesn t want to go fnatic anyway.

[@alexursu563]

@@iwillnoteatzebugs FNC moved on from him too, idt those too will ever get together again

[@kuru-chan6644]

larssen? vetheo? lmao

[@alexursu563]

@@kuru-chan6644 both worse than nemesis

[@MaciejGorski-cu7nw]

you're doing a great job with uploads

[@LOLPOV23]

Thank you, I appreciate it!

[@alfredograve2387]

agree

[@Scuttlr]

His only reaction while his peer speculates his career is to hover the calendar year while Caedrel says 2020 was 4 years ago hahaha Neme is so great

[@boldisorstefan9020]

You can tell he wants to play as a pro! You can feel the tension!

[@jaceyang3375]

honestly i think this is where personality comes in. skill wise he’s more than efficient…

[@minartson]

There is no personality nor skill issue, he is just being a baby. Jankos could also be a streamer instead of a pro but he chooses to be pro, even in a team like HRT because that is what he wants from life right now, being a pro. Nemesis wants to be the best without any effort, he wants to have the cake and eat it too. Join a shit team this year, prove yourself among 4 retards and you will climb ranks. Nemesis is good but he is not Knight, Faker, Ruler, Keria, Guma, TheShy good. He will never get into a Worlds winning team, he is not good enough.

[@Kore_Invalid]

its so sad to see how uncompetetive LEC is rn and then theyre not signing a topplayer like nemesis, there needs to be smth changed man...

[@Lazlum]

xddddddddddddd when he was in LEC he was invisible, why would a top team sign him when other mids are way better lmao

[@hunter_6323]

@@Lazlum literally who other than caps and maybe sometimes humanoid

[@Lazlum]

@@hunter_6323 Vetheo Nisqy Larsen Perkz have all proved themselves,Nemesis was in the second best team and was AFK the whole game why the f a top team would sign him?.

[@NDREI3000]

​@@Lazlumvetheo is coinflip as fuck and doesn't know how to build, humanoid is not human unless he's in playoffs already, larssen is just mid as fuck. nemesis wasn't invisible when he was on fnc lol G2 had to permaban his TF because they keep losing to it, he's probably one of the best facilitating mid rn also has very good shotcalling and macro how can anyone not want him

[@andrewpatew8425]

Honestly nemesis not playing was such a red flag for LEC. It really shows how non-competitive our region has become ever since 2021 with players like nemesis not getting EU offers. Now with bwipo and wunder being close to not playing the issue has become more apparent. LEC hasn’t won a single game in worlds bo5 since nemesis left and the situation is going to get even worse when our best players are out. This years worlds proved it

[@noquad824]

do you mean worlds bo5 game or series, because they definetly won BO5s

[@lycan7489]

Imagine this team: Bwipo, Inspired, Nemesis, Crownie, Trymbi/Rekkles.

[@meliodas1868]

crownie legit the worst adc that ever play a worldcup

[@kakyo3450]

yeah, imagine clash of egos on this roster

[@johnnyairplane2896]

Top: Wunder/Bwipo Jg: Elyoya Mid: Nemesis Bot: Upset Supp: Kaiser/Hyli

[@omegaminus2866]

Bwipo Selfmade Nemesis Upset Hylissang Would be a good roster imo.

[@mmdluqman1464]

Take me in ill be the biggest fan

[@RumandCocaine]

MAD goes full Spanish but needs one not spanish to get all the blame. genius

[@JackAntony1]

Teamsoloq with Agurin, Dzukill, Nemesis

[@nathamorteza1982]

Tyler1

[@franciscomagallanes5658]

So disgusting how they really don't know his worth. I mean obviously the good teams.

[@TheEspartan017]

Nemesis was "toxic" around 2020, and then you have reckles with coaches and players being like nah fuck that guy playing with him is imposible yet took way too long to actually take him out of the LEC, at this point is more about pride than any other thing lmao

[@destinytimer4304]

when caedral said bring this guy back you should bring this guy back you understand lec

[@HotshotMC]

Sad that Nem won't consider NA team. FLY with him, Bwipo, Inspired, Massu, and Busio would have been a pretty decent roster.

[@Golemancer]

'NA' team lmao

[@Constantinch]

For the last two years I completely stopped caring about the offseason. Teams have no idea what they are doing and if we get gapped even in roster building compared to Asian teams, what even is the point?

[@G_Kchrst]

Is it mad I want the Nemesis mid, Rekkles support reunion? Take Crownie or Patrik adc, even Noah if he is free.

[@EricGiby]

Patrik is the most underrated adc of LEC since forever

[@joeh6587]

didnt sound to happy about beeing on team soloq. i think slowly he will realize every split ti will be more unlikely he ever comes back to pro play unless he acutally would play on a team that doesnt fit his standards.

[@jasonnash4452]

he dont know u lil bro. stop doing this internet doctor bs.

[@joeh6587]

@@jasonnash4452 what does that have to do with anything i said. he has the gift to be a pro player yet he wastes his time on streaming which he could do after his pro carrer anyways but cant do vice versa

[@adamszabo2874]

@@joeh6587 yep, he wastes his time on streaming while he earns the same amount monthly as he did annually in fnatic.

[@CinCinAttic]

@@adamszabo2874 life aint all about money, what are u 12? u want to have a career otherwise that shit will eat at u later in life with ur mind going on and on about what ifs

[@Mehdi-kw5xl]

TSM Nemesis in china, you heard it first.

[@_papasparta_-txc-4730]

I mean he's just a player with strong opinions and doesnt look very easily coached by the way he's showing himself on stream and reacting to games/players. He's a great player, but i just dont know how he'll be to have around personality wise and I think a lot of teams have the same problem.

[@NDREI3000]

he can be coached. LS coached him for a while before and they also scrimmed together with T1 academy, He's not uncoachable he just has different views on how to play the game, much like LS

[@VNRG1993]

he can be coached like the prev commenter said alrdy, but only, if the coach knows how the game truly works, imagine getting coached by a plat or lower guy as a challenger player like Nemesis, then he should listen to this coach? naaah man, I wouldn't do it, too, unless the coach is an exception to this rule, which nearly never happens

[@slj1537]

Honestly not sure why he doesnt just go to FLY. You bwipo and inspired on the team and a support who is highly praised by LS and nemesis (awhile back). There is no way he genuinely thinks LEC is that much better than LCS given how recent international tournaments have gone. Like, yes LCS is worse, but their is enough parity that with the right roster you could probably compete against EU and potentially take a game or two from the east in b01s.

[@brunozoller4087]

LCS has played ok funnelling all drafting recources into winning against lec while lec has tried to prep for stronger teams. I still don't think it's close if you compare their performance against asian teams

[@carlod5818]

@@brunozoller4087 tbh i think the difference wasnt that large the past year, the biggest difference is G2, but with na losing the big money they likely wont be able to field big import rosters in the future and as long as G2 stays competitive with the east there is always a chance some other team in eu will catch up.

[@brunozoller4087]

@@carlod5818 yeah but also saying "only 1 team" if that team hosts the 5 best players (at least top3) of every role you can't just take it out of the equation and compare afterwards

[@carlod5818]

@@brunozoller4087 dont think yike was top 3, he just looked really good when his team was stomping anyway

[@brunozoller4087]

@@carlod5818 idk I think u misremember msi

[@Plokus]

g2 nemesis would be so sick and i would actually love that plot twist if caps wants to do smth else

[@DocYAYAYA]

it would be G2s biggest downgrade of all time

[@mistweaverjc7898]

He isn't coming back. There are prolly like 4+ NA Teams that want him every year and would be willing to overpay and he doesn't take the bag even 2 years ago. Neme is def 100% just streamer now and there's nothing wrong with that. League is collapsing anyways and the fan base is even more toxic than he is. There's no reason to come back to the Pro scene

[@jasonnash4452]

especially how hes talked about league why would he ever join a NA team especially now with lower contracts. that would be the worst decision.

[@Jdubayou]

@@jasonnash4452 Yeah the time for EU and Eastern players to get a stupid bag has expired. A few years back they were throwing stupid money at any European or Asian player that was willing to come to NA. Now they could probably still get a lot of money for it but nowhere close to what they would have gotten a few years ago.

[@jomterry]

why don't you just trim the last part of the video where Nemesis doesn't even provide more info about the main topic of the video?

[@iSa_Ach]

I want Nemesis back. Sure he was exploitable during his run but people keep forgetting he replaced CAPS, a young rising star during his time who toe-to-toe the best mids in the World, that was a huge task for Neme and a bigger pressure on him since FNC was a favorite org at the time. We gotta see if he grew up from then or is this another Forg1ven angle. Right now by the looks of it, Nemesis is being either picky or careful which team he would like to join. I doubt G2 would let go of Caps but FNC on the other hand is a possibility. Yes Humanoid is Strong but so is Razork individually. Is Fnc really gonna gamble on a the both of them again, 3 years and still not a good synergy or even try another Jungler? Why not put faith on Razork and replace the Mid? Maybe this could work out better or worse but FNC need a new mid-jungle really bad.

[@the_charliecp8859]

but Razork and humanoid like each other, first split razork was igl and had rekkles and ruckz on the bot lane, they tried to play through mid since rekkles cant play strongside and top is largely useless in pro play back then and it didnt work. With Noah they could play through bot while also having a mid that can gain prio and move with the jungler or reinforce other lanes if needed. In Worlds they just got outdrafted, trymbi pulled a trymbi moment essentially but he has 40 seconds to choose so its whatever. Right now razork and humanoid work why would you risk that when its taken a lot of work to do and put nemesis in who is probably the pickiest midlaner. its just another rekkles situation

[@iSa_Ach]

@@the_charliecp8859 it's working now, when their back's against the wall... But you really want to risk another year with that Mid-Jungle? We've seen how both are good granted but never align UNTIL when the pressure is on. They did it in their gauntlet runs, they did it for qualifications, they did it when the threat of elimination is looming on their shoulders otherwise Regular split? Yea I'm not convince they can play normally. Fnatic's got to realise the experiment failed. It's good to have drama and all but come on men, atleast make it look like you're a strong team and not just a one off days on whose not online every time they play. You gotta remember these is still an Org that needs to sell their brand to investors. What investor would risk knowing that this team is a mid-low level team during regular but a high level team during playoff/gauntlet run? They need to atleast be Top 2 again otherwise its more profitable to invest on up incoming teams especially the fact they have no more legacy names under their banner. That's just my take on this.

[@adamszabo2874]

@@iSa_Ach Humanoid has 10x the ceiling Nemesis ever had

[@ccc-eb3yk]

​@@adamszabo2874kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqi5hJuhnMSWoZYsi=EfyyzhtZQ-Y3VcxZ huma and neme both rookie year btw

[@baluchon2505]

I mean he could commit to one year in a sub-optimal team and still prove something then he would have better chances to be picked up by higher tier teams the next year. It is understandable that picking a player straight from solo queue is a risky move for high tier teams. He wants to be at the top without having to suffer a little first and this lazy mentality is kinda holding him back from getting anything at all tbh.

[@nicklasr7069]

If he doesnt join a team 2024 he will never get a chance i think.

[@ReportFreestyle]

PLEASE, JOIN MAD LIONS WITH ELYOYA

[@afndcasd1288]

cant he join flyquest?

[@overlookingview5621]

Join a mid team to carry them to worlds, so you can get eliminated in swiss (because 4 of your teammates are ass) into insta getting replaced combo while everyone, including dumb fans, play the blame game, while you get put under the hammer. Also for a lesser pay and more scheduled work. Surely that's and "ego" thing, when compared to streaming where he gets 6k+ viewers fisting in Korean soloQ making more money instead and being his own boss, all without any stupid drama, dealing with stupid people too. Surely LEC teams actually care enough to create a team to compete with the Asians and make international success instead of just trying to milk some more money. It sucks that Europe's BEST talent doesn't even get a chance to play in their own region and show actual success that the region could offer, instead we have same old washed up players getting gapped every international tournament while our "best" team loses 2-0 to NA lmfao, hey, at least the scrims were good tho! I'm sure if there was an LEC team that had actual talent and ambition Neme would join them

[@oskarkokoszka9976]

I would love that guy in fnatic again.

[@frixed00]

Don't get me wrong, but this is just my opinion of what I think of Nemesis. I think he's a super good player, no doubt about it, but he looks like he doesn't communicate much and if his team falls behind he'd probably just type /fullmute all

[@rockidayo]

if you check voicecomms from when he was in FNC, that is practically what he did yea

[@itsomegali5342]

@@rockidayo what voice comms are you talking about? where can i find them?

[@MadeInTahiti987]

Incoming G2 Nemesis

[@kakyo3450]

why would they downgrade?

[@carlod5818]

full time dus player

[@jsblade2770]

why doesn t he join a LCK team?

[@ae_aspects8296]

I was saying the same thing, i feel like caps would be soo good if he join a lpl or lck team. Nemesis could do the same thing cu they are easily better than the bottom 5 lck midlaners

[@almightyraven8220]

eastern teams wont ever import western players if they cant even win worlds titles

[@alexyou3233]

@@ae_aspects8296 whos he better than? he isnt even better than guys like caps who couldnt get out of group stage. No EU player can cut it in the east except caps. Chovy doesnt even think EU is a major region and they proved him right. vietnam had equal results.

[@AzuraBlight1]

language barrier

[@ziogas2000]

corrupted teams on europe and na doesnt deserve neme :)

[@sneakysunset1765]

I mean G2 is understandable. TH is understandable. FNC is understandable. KC is understandable. And I think he would prob reject every other teams perhaps except mad. So the only option imo would have been mad and they are trying to build a full spanish team.

[@ziogas2000]

my lord you donkey, most teams have big big wallet cuz of sponsors etc yet they choose spending less so they could "upgrade the facilities or stuff" as they say, when in reality majority of it goes to the greedy folks at the top :) and my bestie worked with one eu org so trust me I got a lot more insiders on multiple teams eu/na. so mind your cocky "understandable" attitude somewhere else in the field you actually know something@@sneakysunset1765

[@dragonplayz6606]

geng nemesis: chovy is useless

[@WelfareCenter]

NA > EU

[@OrdinaryApprentice99]

Just to leave it out here because i already read some comments with really uninformed dumbos. 1. Nemesis gains NOTHING from joining an unknown team. - Less money earned than to stream full-time - Less competetive because you cannot go for the title with garbage players in your team 2. He has the RIGHT to choose wether he wants to compete professionally or not 3. Even if he does want to play in LEC so badly that he begs on his knees, people wouldn't pick him up because of his personal opinion about what makes a team able to compete for a title. This man has experience in the league, he knows how it works. So stop pushing him into the "Big ego" agenda and inform yourself correctly. This man easily beats the best mid laners there is and looses games because of his not-so-well performing teammates. Did he ever loose games where his team actually competed in a decently same level as him in SoloQ? Nope and he STILL climbs up to the top of the top ranks in Korea, mind you, there are the best mid laners, adcs, top laners etc. and he still outclimbs every one of them as a mid laner. Keep that in mind next time. I have the same respect towards players like Baus, imaqtpie etc. high IQ veterans who just chill streaming because they earn SO much more money with that and are able to live their dream lives. Of course there is also broxah and all of them. (Didn't talk about EU only btw just to make it clear)

[@alexyou3233]

Everyone knows those guys cant make the pro leagues anymore. Only nemesis pretends he wouldnt get gapped so bad in lane in EU let alone make worlds.

[@kakyo3450]

I don't think he'll notice you, you can stop simping.

[@Shadowl]

Caedrel is acting like if Nemesis didn't get offers already.... He got a lot of offers in the past which he declined, wtf do you want those teams to do? Go on their knees and cry for him to join? Just move on and let him stream. If he really wants to compete then he would already accept something but instead he rejected everyone is just waiting for an offer from T1 or Geng seems like it lmao.

[@MyLovelyForm]

He was prob happy when he watched Caps G2 video and though that was it but then it was a prank xdd

[@mississippitornado6842]

this guy is legit retired , you can hear it in his voice he doesnt even care about anything

[@jasonnash4452]

he dont know u lil bro.

[@mississippitornado6842]

@@jasonnash4452 why would I even want that

[@kongwaguk8337]

I mean Nemesis could easily be the best mid, but the toxic allegations are true. He is fluent in Yapanese.

[@eurostajlen138]

How speaking your mind on certain aspects of the game/drafts/macro whatever you want is being toxic? Watch LPL documentaries where such "toxicity" is normal and their coaches have authority over players rather than just sugar coating "you did your best, we will get them next time" into 10th place

[@lehends5683]

can be the best mid outside of caps, no one contests caps in the LEC

[@jasonnash4452]

bro that was 4 years ago man. like are we just gonna hold that over his head forever and just act like he can never change. so cringe man

[@adamszabo2874]

@@jasonnash4452 he's acting the same as in 2019, atleast on stream. So who knows

[@willyoung859]

Nemesis will never join a team

[@matiusasoffisal3884]

no team wants Nemesis so he aint coming back

[@mwbwyatt]

tons of teams want him, but the top teams he'd be interested in have mids who are pretty set in stone. the one team that ISNT is probably a team he'd never go back to. he'd probably have a ton of success if he even entertained the option of an LCS run but he probably doesnt wanna go pro again if he cant either A: do damage to asian teams or B: make it to worlds. domestic success isnt his end goal even if he didnt ever win an LEC title while being a pro...it'd be more of a...vindication than a goal he'd be going after.

[@matiusasoffisal3884]

@@mwbwyatt brother i aint reading ALLAT

[@mokchahaahmed4226]

HRT winning LEC 😂

[@JMQA1]

SOLO Q Nemesis

[@lyubengogov7449]

loser got what he deserved

[@ak3nodxd674]

Nemesis is good...but not as good as he thinks...

[@rafayet23]

Noah is so good i hope he stays with fnc.

[@1soar818]

this guy was a liability at worlds

[@rafayet23]

@@1soar818 I really don't think he was. I feel like he played well. Idk maybe I'm wrong.

[@adamszabo2874]

@@rafayet23 he played well on Aphelios

[@SilencedButNotForgotten]

He is just BAD and nobody wants him. Easy.

[@minartson]

Being toxic is an esports things, in regular sports, people want to win so nobody really cares how toxic you are if you can back it up in the game. It's a bit of a snowflake sport but it's dominated by nerds so what are you gonna do? Imagine somebody like Pasha playing League, no team would hire him, too afraid he would fold them in half mid practice when inting.