Bowers & Wilkins ASW608 Subwoofer Review. ***READ THE PINNED COMMENT***

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Reviewed Today: B&W (Bowers & Wikins) ASW608
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Preamp Used Kinki Studio EX-P7:
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Amplifiers used Kinki Studio EX-B7 monoblocks:
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The Speakers I Use: Buchardt S400:
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Subwoofer used SVS SB-3000:
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My source is a network streamer Bluesound Node 2i:
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(all music is hi-res streamed from TIdal)
Speaker Stands I Use are custom height Skylan SP-27
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Speaker Cables I Use Maze Audio Ref4
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Power Cables: Maze Audio Ref4 Cryo used on preamp, both amps, subwoofer, and power distribution.
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RCA Cables are either Maze Audio Ref4 or Analysis Plus Oval One
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[@NemoPropaganda]

***2023 Updates/Context/Corrections*** This review is fairly old now as is this specific model and things change. I feel this subwoofer is overpriced in todays market (in the USA) If you like what I said about this subwoofer here are 3 alternative options that are way better, around the same price, and all the popular sizes: Rythmik L12 (12"), REL HT1003 MK2 (10") or REL T5X (8"). Naturally the 8" REL T5X is the most similar to the ASW608 so if the size was important for you that's what you want to get. The main difference is the T5x has a little less extension at lower volumes but much better fidelity overall. The 1003MK2 and L12 are better than the ASW608 in every way.

[@NemoPropaganda]

A shame you're so far away, I'm selling my 608 right now :(. If you have a little bit more space I would recommend you consider the REL HT1003. I sounds just as good but has more power so will grow with you for many years to come where as you may outgrow the 608 as soon as you move to a bigger place.

[@geoffreysmith4618]

Hi - great review and just what I was looking for. I have some older B&W DM303 bookshelf speakers that I’m wanting to add some low-end for music only. Given you comments that it is fast, tight and accurate - it would seem to fit the bill perfectly. This is for my home office set up which includes a NAD C338 integrated amp. So my space is limited. My question is: Is this still your recommendation based upon all of the above? It would seem so.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@geoffreysmith4618 So while the ASW608 is still fantastic the REL 1003 makes the 608 seem like a bad deal at this point. I would say if you listen at lower volumes and simply want a matching system the 608 might be right for you but if you want a sub that has all the same qualities but will have the potential to play louder and grow with you the REL 1003 is the better choice. Granted if we're talking used prices the 608 can be found for as little as $250 and at that point it's a great option!

[@shlinomaz]

Hi, I really like your reviews. As im exactly the guy with a child in college my budget is limited . I liked your review for the b&w asw608 and I noticed that since you suggested the rel 1003. My initial question was, I could get hands on a good deal, whether it would be worth spending extra £100 on the B&W ASW610 brand new compare to £345 for the ASW608. I found out i could get the rel ht1003 for £399. What would be your choice please? It is predominantly for a TV sound set up.with an external Amp. Unfortunatelly, odd shaped room which is about 6m long x 3.4m wide x 2.4m high. Any opinion greately appreciated. Regards Jan (North Wales, UK)

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@shlinomaz I like the BW ASW range but it's old and very limited in output so it's really hard to recommend unless you're finding them on the used market around $250 so the 1003 is always the better option with it's larger driver and nearly triple the power it's just a no brainer. Don't even look back at the asw.

[@marcusmcmurray77]

Excellent review! I appreciate that you specify who the sub is and is not for, versus the typical pros/cons/dimensions review. GREAT JOB!

[@the_druid0066]

Probably one of the best, honest, straight to the point, clear reviews I've seen on KZbin... also I'm buying this sub 😁 I'm adding it to Cambridge audio CXA81 & wharfedale4.4 evo floorstanders ✌️

[@DreamoMechArena16]

Great video. I took your advice and bought one for my 2 channel music. Absolutely delighted with the richness and mellowness from lower mid range to bass. Oddly it seems to add depth to my front to back soundstage also. Thanks.again.

[@stuufo]

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for this video. I was agonising/obsessing and now I have finally made the decision. Nice work mate.

[@gustavosottomaior7840]

Great review! Helped me a lot! Tx and keep the good work, Nemo.

[@reactos23]

Great review! And you are absolutely right, this one isn't for extreme powerful explosions in movies, it is for great sounding bass in music. Thanks for your observations.

[@dsartain3404]

Great video- I’ve subscribed and appreciate your honest reviews and comparisons which enable us to ‘get it’. I fit your description of audiophile with college kids. Keep up the good work!

[@NemoPropaganda]

Glad you're enjoying the content!

[@jamal6509]

Thank you for such a onest and informativ review. Bought this sub after watching your video. can`t wait to test it with my old b&w FPM speakers i got from my dad. Looking forward for more videos

[@vvaltson]

Thank you for this great review! Found your review right after I ordered that little beauty for my Muzishare X7 tube-amp and Elac DBR-62s. After watching this I'm quite sure that I made right decision.

[@NemoPropaganda]

That sounds like an awesome combination of gear, i LOVE the DBR62!!

[@MartinKuhlen]

I took your advice and bought me the REL 1003. Couldn't be happier! Thanks a lot and best wishes from Germany.

[@NemoPropaganda]

excellent choice.

[@gbthegreat]

I was debating whether to get a sub for over a year. I tried a cheap one on my amp and it added another dimension of music. Realizing something was missing I started researching this sub. After this review I bought it. No regrets. SQ is it’s forte. Sounds composed. Differentiates with different bass instruments really well. Love it! Thanks

[@NemoPropaganda]

hell yeah brother, glad you like it :)

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Great video. You explained the strength of these subs well and I like the part where you said there are no cons, just not the right buyer. Brilliant! I will borrow that un the future!

[@pabsgabs]

Hi Tomas! would this be a good match for Kef LSX or should I be looking at the Kube 8? music only. Thanks !

[@djlotfiwah]

I've never heard anyone talking and explaining "bass" as well as you do, verry good and instructive review, thanks

[@NemoPropaganda]

Thank you!

[@DDennnisss]

FYI, I bought the 608 partially due to this review.. Then I even bought a second one as I was very pleased with it.. Thank you Nemo for taking the time to review these..

[@NemoPropaganda]

that's awesome, i'm happy it's working out well for you!!

[@RannajoyRoyNewtonDigital]

Brilliant review. Thanks for being so honest and informative about your review

[@NemoPropaganda]

My pleasure 😊

[@jimwright98]

Great video, been thinking about one of these for a while, you've covered a lot of ground really well here. Thanks.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Thank you, keep in mind this review is over 1 year old now and things change. If you like the idea behind this subwoofer but can accommodate something larger my new SQ recommendation at this price point for North American consumers is the Rythmik L12 and for European customers the REL HT1003

[@davidstein9129]

This was a very enlightening video...Lots of useful information here. Thanks so Much!

[@mdrummond194]

Picked up a asw608 on the used market after my a/d/s mu3’s board died. I was on the fence over this b&w because of its size. It delivers beautiful deep tight bass and out preformed my 4 times larger mu3. I bought it based on this video review and I’m glad i was able to score one so cheap. Now I’m looking for a second one!

[@NemoPropaganda]

Nice dude, a pair should give some more headroom!!

[@qqsrx]

Great review! Ordered one. I like that you emphasize on quality vs quantity, and tonality.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Nice! Did you read the sticky comment though?

[@vekteren3549]

Great video! I am thinking of buying the 10inch version, the EQ setting is a big pluss atleast for me, and i only listen to a maximum of 80db myself aswell, so i think i will enjoy it truly.

[@bigjay1970]

Great explanation of the product like usual!🤗😇😁

[@jamiermathlin]

I have a full 9.2 Bowers and Wilkins system with 700 series main speakers, however for Sub's I have a ASW610 and a ASW608 , the 610 sits at the front of the room and the 608 towards the rear, Once I got everything set-up (which took a while) the tone of my system is incredible. I am a tone not volume guy, so these subs work for me so well, I have the crossover set around 80hz on both. I like to listen to classical, folk and single instrument / voice music and the tone is simply stunning. Thank you for your review, I thought I was just strange not wanting massive booming bass, looking for quality and tone, but you make me realise that I was right......... Thanks

[@NemoPropaganda]

oh yes, some of us like crazy volume, some of us like really good SQ, and many people like a good balance of both, ultimately we're all different and that's why i get so frustrated when i see some audiophiles are so stubborn and narrow minded like only 1 way is the right way but it's not true at all. Personally 75db-80db is loud enough for me so i like quality and low powered sub is okay.

[@maytronix7201]

I have the big brother to this one (ASW610). I'll be setting mine up tomorrow. Thanks for the info 🤙

[@NemoPropaganda]

Yeah, i just wish they made a 12" :(

[@themastroiannis]

loved your review and subscribed to your channel... the part of the subwoofer comparison to your old Velodyne and how it is "unbearable to listen to" is priceless!! thanks for your thorough review of the B&W sub...

[@NemoPropaganda]

Than you sir i appreciate that!

[@davelarocque3319]

Well I feel pretty good about my little ASW 608 I picked up for $120 this weekend (used). It pairs up nicely with my B&W DM602's and just helps fill out the bottom end. Thanks for the review

[@NemoPropaganda]

that's a damn good price, great find!

[@rushajeraan1715]

Awesome subwoofer. Still using mine. Best cinema sound 👌

[@skylordsrebornpvpreplays5795]

thank you for the fantastic review! 👍

[@NemoPropaganda]

Than you for the fantastic comment :)

[@nordinstrom9750]

This Chanel must have more viewers! Subscribed. Thank you

[@NemoPropaganda]

Thank you sir, I appreciate the kind words

[@MagVerslappen]

Tnx this helped me make a decision and i bought the asw608 for my philips 65oled984 👍

[@NemoPropaganda]

Awesome, i hope it's a good fit!

[@Audioloon]

Nemo, you've made this sub-woofer review series really interesting. I have a buddy that bought 2 B&W sub's about 20 years ago and he really loves to crank up the Joules on that awesome Carver amp to get the subs really working. Over the years i've personally owned subs from RBH, Velodyne, and REL 528. I have also had the pleasure of listening to subs from JL and lately from Sonor. My Rel sub quit working in 2018 after only 7 years of light to moderate use for H.T. and sometimes for music. I paid $1500 for it so I think it was a poor return on my investment compared to my buddy's B&W which just keeps going and going like the energizer rabbit. I know in my other post I was really leaning toward the Emo pairing but dang.....product longevity matters a lot to me as much as overall SQ. Ya, am thinking that the B&W is the smart choice for sub-woofers. Man, am sure glad I checked out this particular review. Thanks for all the insights!

[@NemoPropaganda]

Thanks Leroy, it's hard to know these days what gear will last and what gear will not. The ASW608 is a great sub as long as you're okay with using it within it's limits and it's possibly the most full range subwoofer of it's size.

[@raydioz]

I bought 2 of these 2nd hand from the distributor in 2017, one was MDF with a greyish white and the other was vinyl particulate board in a pure white. The vinyl had a tiny rattle in it, so I sold it on to a person who couldn't hear the rattle for $100. The MDF sounded a little and I still have it, but I plastiDip'd it in white to match my plastidip'ped Klipsch. I don't really like the plastidip finish, but sure beats the fugly white and walnut vinyl.

[@HPMIKE55]

Great job bro!

[@jacksonxiong5687]

Awesome video totally helpful bro!!

[@thomyorke0radiohead]

TY for the Test

[@dystoniaify]

Great review. I just found one at best buy for $348, open box! I have a small apartment and this should go great with my Vanatoo T1Es. Can't wait!

[@NemoPropaganda]

That's a great deal!! Let me know if you have any questions setting it up. Make sure to read the directions.

[@dystoniaify]

@@NemoPropaganda It might not come with the directions for the price, but I'll look for it online. I'll let you know if I have any questions. Thanks!

[@dystoniaify]

@@NemoPropaganda Does the subwoofer cable really make any difference? Some audiophiles say a quality cable is better, while others say any cheap RCA cable is just as good.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@dystoniaify for a subwoofer, I would use any decent quality cable with good shielding. Just stay away from the really cheap stuff like fospower, their cables don't even stay on they are so loose and have hardly any shielding.

[@dystoniaify]

@@NemoPropaganda Damn. I just let the $324 open box 'satisfactory ' condition go because I was winning one on Ebay for $154! But someone swooped in last second. Best buy still has a ton of their excellent condition open boxes on ebay (or the store, but eBay has a$10 coupon) for $399. But I have seen almost new asw610s on ebay go for 330 or less WITH shipping. There's one now for $330, but I'm in a tiny apartment. I'm debating on taking the plunge on the best buy 608 for $390, including shipping and the 2 year warranty or holding out for another ebay deal. But for some reason the 610s seem to be selling more,and for less than the 608. I don't really have much cash, but I'm depressed in my lockdown and want it so bad.

[@wooster7571]

This is a good review. For me ( in the UK ) REL HT1003 = £559 and the B&W ASW608 = £349: no contest. Personally, I have no identification with the way subs so often are used with the emphasis on shuddering bass vibrations instead of actual musical sound. It becomes another spec - fest. I like music and my listening room isn't going to grow any bigger unless I start feeding it more, so I'm happy and your review pointed me in that direction :-)

[@NemoPropaganda]

oh yeah, that's a big price difference.

[@Birmingham_racing]

Have you heard the rel?

[@Pentenfi]

I just found your channel since I am looking for a sub. I like your style a lot!

[@NemoPropaganda]

Thank you!! Did you see the 3 subwoofer comparison video? Also i will be revieweing the svs sb2000 pro very soon. Definately look at the 3 subwoofer video, 3 really good subwoofers to consider.

[@peterdamen2161]

Great video! And you appear to be a very likable guy.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hi Peter, that's very kind of you to say, thank you for tuning into the my channel :) more reviews are coming very soon!! SVS SB2000 Pro is the next sub i will be reviewing along with 3 ultra budget bookshelf speakers.

[@c.s.herman860]

This is the ideal sub for a bedroom or office 2.1 desktop setup

[@jimboedmonds]

Great review. I bought some B&W 606 speakers this year and love them. They could use a little more bass and I've been looking at options. Good fit, you think?

[@NemoPropaganda]

if you are in the USA I would recommend the Rythmik L12 instead, it's only $69 more but a lot better. If you are in EU i recommend the REL HT-1003. The 608 is good but with it's limited power it's hard to recommend in todays market. The other two subs I mentioned are just as good but offer more power.

[@AudioElectronicsChicago]

I had this sub, it is great sub, it hits low, one flaw was the power, it does not have enough power for the woofer size but still a great sub!

[@la_clave]

Hey man, really appreciate your reviews! Keep up the good work! You think this sub is enough if I added it to a couple KEF iQ90s (older Q series KEF towers)? I only use the system for music, very limited on space and I just want to add a little more low-end to the sound. Thanks!

[@NemoPropaganda]

hmmm, it really depends on the size of the room, if it's a smaller room and you really only want a little bit more bass this should be fine. If it's a larger room or you want a lot more bass i would instead consider the emotiva SE8 or aperion bravus 8D.

[@dbfairgroundfilms8195]

Fantastic review! I’ve been looking to replace my very Muddy Cambridge audio Sub, and this review has convinced me that hooking this up to my Marantz PM6007 amp, and Bowers and Wilkins 606 speakers, then for my budget, this sub will, with all the other elements, be a match made in heaven....fingers crossed 🤞🏻😊

[@NemoPropaganda]

This review is over 1 year old now and things change. If you like the idea behind this subwoofer but can accommodate something larger my new SQ recommendation at this price point for North American consumers is the Rythmik L12 and for European customers the REL HT1003.

[@ckamireddy]

Nice review! Subscribed. One question though, are you certain that this is a 200 watts peak amp? B&W is not clear in their specs but I've seen it listed as 200 watt RMS on Best Buy. Some of the larger subs in their lineup are 200 watts as well so it does seem odd for it to be so under powered for $500

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hi Chait, yes I am certain. All B&W subwoofers are rated in peak power. It's very apparent in real world use and I've spoken to them about it.

[@israelgeron]

great review, I am thinking to replace my current klipsch sub with this one or the asw610 , this for a very small room for jazz and edm music

[@NemoPropaganda]

only if the price is low otherwise I'd get the REL T5X instead :)

[@fcamiola]

Great review! I own B&W 602 S2 speakers (from around year 2000) and still love them, however the main deficiency in my system is the lack of bass on some recordings, especially 70s progressive rock, classic jazz upright bass, and some lower end frequencies in classical orchestras. I have a beautiful Rogue tube preamp/integrated amp (Sphinx 3) and am seriously considering this unit. Do you think it will be a good match? Thanks man!

[@NemoPropaganda]

Yes as long as you watched the part of the video where i talked about who this is for, if that sounds like something you like then yes :). Essentially you are giving up power and high volume bass for amazing sound quality, that's what this sub is all about. If you have a tube amp I'm guessing you're already willing to give up maximum power for quality so i would say yes :)

[@fcamiola]

@@NemoPropaganda I bought the 608 and have had it about one week so far. Absolutely love it! Your review helped me pull the trigger on it so thanks again. It is very musical and blends amazingly well with my 602s. There are frequencies on my LPs and CDs I never knew existed. There are also a ton of control options to help dial in the optimal crossover frequency and volume. Its just a fantastic unit. Cheers! Frank

[@stanmyers5994]

Great video

[@LuisJacob366]

This channel is great it must have more followers.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Thank you bro.

[@briang530]

Thanks for the review. I was looking at the Kef Kube 8, Dali C8D or E9F, and Q 3600s for a small room sub. Guess there's another (older) option to check out now. The one thing you didn't talk too much about here was the speed side of the SPL/accuracy/attack equation. I'm attempting to match a small sub with Dali Oberon 3 s running off of a node2i through an old KA3500, so speed and accuracy are important to me in this set up. Any thoughts. Caveat is the Sub has to look good too. So klipsch especially but also many other are out of the question.

[@NemoPropaganda]

REL HT-1003 is the one you want.

[@briang530]

@@NemoPropaganda thanks for the fast reply!

[@alexforero2674]

Excelente gracias por compartir sus conocimientos 👏👏

[@kurtc7290]

thanks for the review and comparisons. I have the Bowers and Wilkins 606 anniversary - I recently bought these as an upgrade after listening to floor standers... the B&W just sounded too good and most floor standers in my price range still needed a sub. I am contemplating this sub but was a bit hesitant because of the 8 inch driver. I currently have like a 12 year old polk psw110... I play mostly vinyl and a far second is theater... I have noticed that the Polk Sub is muddy and monotone as you describe. I am using an old Yamaha amplifier which is theater surround sound based and will eventually upgrade it in 6-12 months... My room is a living room 16 by 20 which opens into the kitchen... I generally play music at loud tv settings where you can still talk to others but will push a bit further at times - by no means house party volume. Do you think this sub fits the bill for me? My main goal is bass detail for albums. thanks and peace

[@NemoPropaganda]

This review is fairly old now as is this specific model and things change. If you like the idea behind this subwoofer but can accommodate something larger my new SQ recommendation at this price point for North American consumers is the Rythmik L12 and for European customers the REL HT1003. If you don't need as much output the REL T5X is outstanding if you're looking for something very small but extremely high quality with respect to performance.

[@tommyzwicky6317]

Great video. Finally got some answers I had a hard time finding anywhere else. I don´t know much about sound equipment. I have it attached to a small Pro-ject Stereo Box DS through the speaker terminals. Is that the right way to do it? If so - which settings would you recommend for this setup? Greetings from Denmark

[@tommyzwicky6317]

@@NemoPropaganda Thank you so much for your response. The living room is about 5×8 meters. With the sound system setup centrally on the back wall of the 8 meter wall. I only have two "mid" sized speakers from DSL Sweden. Very similar to Dali I believe. I mostly listen to pop music; Depeche Mode, White Lies, George Michael and New Order to name a few.

[@interlinga]

Great video. Thanks for making it. Do you think amp this would work with Elac debut 5.2 bookshelf speakers. I run them through a Sony STR DN850 AV Amp in a smallish room. Although it's an AV amp, I mainly use it for listening to music. Not at really loud volumes as I don't want to disturb anyone. A bit of TV here and there but home cinema is not really my thing.. All the best.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Yes i think it would be a good match :)

[@pabsgabs]

Good video! thanks, Im thinking Kef Kube 8 or this one for my Kef LSX.

[@NemoPropaganda]

The KEF KUBE 8 has a lot more power but i don’t know what it sounds like. I would imagine it’s good though.

[@NemoPropaganda]

I enjoy classical but i don’t understand the songs, like there is the same song but in “E” or “D” minor and major, what does that mean?

[@davidstein9129]

I am thinking of purchasing a used pair of B&W 606 S2 Anniversary Edition bookshelf speakers and selling my B&W CDM floorstanders. I love the sound of my B&W HTM6 Center Channel speaker. I use a 5.2 surround sound ( or house mode with all speakers firing in stereo) for music and movies. I recently purchased two of these B&W 608 subwoofers being reviewed here. I love them as well. So Much less finicky to position correctly and more musical than my old vintage Velodyne sub. I have also use, a bit older, B&W HTM6 Center channel. (Features a decoupled dome tweeter & 2 Contntuum drivers) when listening to music and for watching movies. I love the sound presentation of those continuum drivers. Wow! I listen to music at no higher than 55 dB. My room dimensions are approximate 17 feet (w) x 18 (L). I am powering my fronts & my rear 2 B&W surround speakers with a 200 wpc Rotel amp. I listen to some classical/ mostly small orchestra music, lots of rock, country, country-rock...Si, lots of music with accoustic instruments. Any onions about adding the B&W 606's into the mix? In kind of seems like a no-brainer for me to go for it but it's good to get other unformed opinions

[@2nudes]

Thanks!

[@Georgie_B_]

Really loved this review and read your comment that there’s newer, better options, but in Japan the Rel and Rythmik stuff is hard to come by. I’m mainly looking for one or ideally 2 subs for mastering in quite a small mixing room. Was just wondering, did you try the ASW610? Maybe overkill for a small room and mixing at low volumes?

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hi brother, my problem with the ASW 608 and 610 is they each only have about 100 or so honest watts behind them so they run out of steam quickly which is okay if they were more affordable but at the price they command it's just a bad deal. If they're cheaper in Japan the 610 could be worth it but personally I wouldn't pay more than a $350-$450 for that sub on the higher side.

[@Georgie_B_]

@@NemoPropaganda appreciate it, thanks bud!

[@fuminggodchild]

Hey, great video - super informative. In your opinion, do you think this sub would pair well with B&W's 606 S2 anniversary edition? Just got a pair and I really like them but I'm wondering if this will complete that sound for me vs other subs on the market around this price (don't have a huge budget)

[@NemoPropaganda]

I would not recommend this subwoofer in todays market. My updated recommendation around this price is the Rythmik L12, it's better in every way.

[@powerboyz30]

i had it paired with my 606 s2 ae, it's more than enough especially on my 32 sqm condo unit.

[@gabrielpop7206]

One of the best audiophile reviews on You Tube !!!

[@NemoPropaganda]

Thank you Gabriel!

[@seoulrydr]

I am not in the market for a sub, but is it good enough, or have you considered getting another one for increased output and maybe 'stereo' pairing? Maybe it's not necessary with your SVS in the house.

[@guillermomartin8248]

Thank you for the review. So for me I am building a B&W setup but my room is only 11x10, it is for home theater use. Would this sub being 8 inches be enough for a home theater space of 11x10?

[@NemoPropaganda]

My room is 12x10 so we are very similar here. So yes this subwoofer is good for that room size and yes it will sound amazing with home theater and music BUT depending on how loud you watch movies you may need to adjust the bass roll off switch to position B or even C so the subwoofer does not distort because it does not have very much power. If this is a theater room only a ported subwoofer like the SVS PB-1000 will be a better option and it has 3x the power. Let us know how it turns out :)

[@GodfreyMann]

In addition to extending low, would you say that it expands the soundstage and imaging as well? How does it perform with orchestra...is it quick enough to keep up? I’m more interested in quality of bass than quantity as I’m listening *nearfield* to KEF LS50s and trying to decide between this and the ASW610 in a small 10’x10’ room.

[@NemoPropaganda]

it's hard to say if it'll expand the soundstage or imaging, i know some people say a subwoofer can do that but i would argue they're describing the presentation in an odd way that's not entirely correct. It's more overall depth that's added with a subwoofer and perhaps some peoples brains/ears interpret that differently but personally I've not heard a subwoofer change imaging. Since you listen to orchestral i would step up to the ASW610 or even ASW610xp model as that kind of music has some very low bass notes and the 8" could easily run out of steam. Speed is not an issue however. If you do consider the XP model you might as well start looking at REL and Rythmik also. Most important is try to buy from somewhere that allows for a review period just in case it's not your cup of tea.

[@MittenCritical]

Thank you for the video! Question: I just got this sub along with the Vanatoo Transparent Zero speakers. The speakers have a mono out for the sub so I got a cable that splits from single end RCA to dual RCA, I did read that some subwoofers only need a single to single end RCA depending on the model. Do you know which way is correct to set this up for mono in regards to the RCA cable? Thank you!

[@NemoPropaganda]

If your subwoofer output is a single rca you most likely only need to use a single rca cable :). You can check with the subwoofer manufacturer if you want to be 100% sure.

[@spirit.molecule]

Thanks for the video. I bought the ASW608 to replace my +25yo Kenwood SW500 superwoofer (any thoughts on that?). Going to connect it to my Marantz SR5011 (B&W speakers front and back and center). Any advice on the settings? Will be placed in a small living room, next to front of speaker, mainly to watch movies in Dolby surround.

[@NemoPropaganda]

I made a video for that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4vFq6mXo9pmrKM

[@gerard3797]

I would really like to see you do a comparison with the Rel t5i (or the t7i Thomas & Stereo recently reviewed), also compared to SVS, especially in terms of music integration. The subs I owned from KEF and Dali in the past, didn’t come even close to the Rel R328 I had.

[@gerard3797]

Yes I am sometimes amazed that this brand is not better known among the music reviewers. The secret of Rel is mainly in the processing I believe and the response times. Rel actually advised me too use two t5i’s with my S400’s instead of one t7i, because of overall soundstage and better coverage/coherence. Spec wise, the frequency range, however, is not so far apart from the S400. So maybe it will not add a lot on the frequency range itself, but more on the fullness of the sound of those frequencies. Hope you will get a test example :)!!

[@heyitsme939]

Can you help me understand why there are two volume controls on the back? I have the Dynaudio Xeo 30 floor speakers, and I ordered this sub to link with them. I don’t understand why this sub has two different volume controls, i’ve never seen a sub like this before. not sure if I should be setting volume (line) or volume (speaker)... owners manual is no help

[@Jerome-fw3sr]

Hello, the line volume is to be used if your sub is connected to your amp via an rca cable (modulation cable). the speaker volume is to be used if your sub is powered by the speaker output (not rca). So you only use one button depending on the connection. Have pleasure with your sub.

[@jonnieeeboy1818]

Hi Nemo! I’m on a tight budget and I’m wondering how the asw 608 works with movies? I don’t have a very big room , closer to a smaller living room. Thanks for a great channel! 😃👍🏽

[@NemoPropaganda]

Ehhh, I don’t recommend it. Much better movie options at this price like a REL HT1003.

[@mhopsfield3001]

Great review mate! Would you say this sub would be ok with Kef Q350? I got rather small (open) room and looking to add some bass to my 2.0 setup. It would be for both music and movies.

[@NemoPropaganda]

as long as you're okay with the output limitations of this subwoofer as mentioned in the video then yes :) however my new SQ recommendation for this price is the Rythmik L12.

[@mhopsfield3001]

@@NemoPropaganda thank you for your reply. Unfortunately I have not seen Rythmik subwoofers anywhere in U.K. 😒

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@mhopsfield3001 Ah yes, the shipping costs will make them less popular outside of the USA.

[@mtfirn]

I have two asw 608 Peachtree nova 150 and Peachtree amp500 line out to the subs line in what should the low pass filter set to in or out from a iam new to this

[@moritz.braeuer.leisureaccount]

It really seems like this is the perfect sub for me. I am a college student. I am tight on budget. And I'd really like to extend the frequency range of my speakers with some detailed, quick and dry and all over unobtrusive bass, especially at low volumes. I don't even want to know, that there is a sub helping out the towers. Even though my Hero Aleva GT 602 are capable of reaching 29 Hz at -3dB, they're having a difficult time delivering them at low volumes combined with my Yamaha R-N803 D and I sure as hell don't want to alter the sound signature of them by turning the bass knob up to the max. Furthermore: my room not only is relatively small, with almost no space to place a sub (Luckily this one is tiny and ticks another box being so small). My Room really is a suboptimal listening environment, which will require some form of sub-eq, that in this case seems to be really effective as well. Up to this point: Great! Thanks for your awesome review! I think you explained to me in every little Detail, why this seems to be the perfect sub! But allow me to have two little questions: Do metal-spikes come with it in the box? And would you even recommend to decouple them from the ground? The house I'm living in is really clairaudient. P.s.: Sorry if my English is a bit weird and wordy, I'm from Germany haha

[@NemoPropaganda]

It's good, if you have a little more space the REL 1003 is a better option though it's a bit larger.

[@moritz.braeuer.leisureaccount]

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for your advice! I'll definitely check it out. Sadly I'm really tight on space, but we'll see :) However, does the ASW608 come with metal spikes for decoupling?

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@moritz.braeuer.leisureaccount Yes, it comes with both metal spikes and hard plastic footers.

[@moritz.braeuer.leisureaccount]

​@@NemoPropaganda I think in the next month, or two I'm ready to spend some money on a sub. You recommended the REL HT1003 as an alternative to the ASW608. So here are my two last questions, I promise :D 1.: I never went beyond 90db with music and movies - How do their sound signatures differ below this volume? (As a reminder, I am looking for deep, fast and detailed bass) 2.: In case the REL is the clear winner over the B&W - I prefer the looks of the B&W a lot. Am I at least able to change the horrible feet of the REL to something more understated? :D

[@djs2356]

Thanks for a insightful review. Question: Any problems with the 'Auto-On'? Does it go on and off as it should?

[@NemoPropaganda]

i havn't had this sub for many years now but I don't recall any issues with the auto on function.

[@djs2356]

thanks......................@@NemoPropaganda

[@rsolsjo]

Thanks for the really good review. There's not a lot of attention paid to B&W subs on KZbin. (I'm definitely the "sound quality guy on a budget", haha).

[@NemoPropaganda]

no problem bro, just make sure to read the pinned comment if you're in the market.

[@rsolsjo]

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks

[@B.A.Bassangler]

I was dead set on the Emotiva SE-8's until I got a db app...my semi-loud listening is at 70-80db. I hear and feel it, and my wife doesn't (from her upstairs office). Thanks to your comprehensive reviews, I think I will be better served with the deeper extension of the 608's. When I want to rock-out with my Metallica "Figurines", I'll switch to B or C positions. My room size calls for 2 10" subs, but it's a multi-purpose room and I don't care if my Mother-in-Law can even see the screen let alone feel the bass...NEARFIELD BITCHES...that's how I'm roll'n!

[@NemoPropaganda]

As long as you know they are severely limited in output they are a decent option, just don't pay full price for them. Way too many better options.

[@B.A.Bassangler]

@@NemoPropaganda Some used on ebay for 300ish...(I'll probably change my mind again)

[@dodpr]

Cool video. Im looking to add this to me to my setup. I have a bluesound node 2i and Im gonna use the sub out of the node for the subwoofer. My question is how do you integrated the volume of the speakers with volume of the sub? Will I need to constantly go in the back of the sub and adjust the volume of the sub to match the volume of my speakers? And how do I get the perfect volume match between the two without adding too much or to little volume from the sub? Thanks. Im a new subscriber to your channel.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Sooo I don't really recommend this sub anymore, it's still great but I think you get a little more bang for your buck elsewhere. If you like the idea behind this subwoofer but can accommodate something larger my new SQ recommendation at this price point for North American consumers is the Rythmik L12 and for European customers the REL HT1003. There is a volume knob on the back of the sub, you'll have to play some songs you're familiar with until you get it right, shouldn't take more than 30 mins :). I will release a "how to setup a sub" video soon though.

[@dodpr]

@@NemoPropaganda Wow. I really appreciate your response. Ill be looking for that video and also check your recommendations. Thank you very much!

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@dodpr anytime brother, I'm always around!

[@TheSweetloudo1]

Great review awesome info. I just bought the Bowers and wilkins entry level book shelf 600 series and I love them. I too am looking for clarity over volume and this is coming from a guy who saw ACDC open for Thin Lizzy at the Aragon brawl room...but I digress. 500.00 would be more than I paid for the pair. I would only use the sub for music no HT. I listen to a lot of classic rock as well as prog rock and I am leaning toward making the plunge but it does seem counter productive to spend more on the sub than the pair of speakers. your thoughts?

[@NemoPropaganda]

If you're looking to save more money the Emotiva SE8 is rather good at $300 but if you're willing to spend the $500 my new recommendation at that price is the Rythmik L12, it's like a bigger and more powerful asw608 and still remains tonally articulate and a pleasure to listen to all while being able to play loud when called upon or dig deep for those times you want to watch a movie.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Sorry and to answer the question no i don't it's crazy to spend more on a sub at this price point but if you had $4,000 speakers and a $8,000 sub while that would be weird it would probably still sound great. There are no rules in this hobby, just fun and personal taste my friend :)

[@TheSweetloudo1]

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for responding and I will be buying a sub now it just depends on how I'm feeling at the time of purchase weather or not I spend 300 or 500. Keep up the good work!

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@TheSweetloudo1 I totally know that feeling. Good luck my friend, i hope it works out either way!

[@Aranimda]

How does this one compare to the SVS SB-1000 Pro when it comes to sound quality for music and blending with small speakers?

[@NemoPropaganda]

This review is fairly old now as is this specific model and things change. If you like the idea behind this subwoofer but can accommodate something larger my new SQ recommendation at this price point for North American consumers is the Rythmik L12 and for European customers the REL HT1003. If you don't need as much output the REL T5X is outstanding if you're looking for something very small but extremely high quality with respect to performance.

[@alexfreeman3697]

Let me know please, if my room just 18 square meters, is this sub enough for my room ??

[@diegocastiglia]

Video very good ! Scuse me ! I would like to know if this subwoofer is good with B&W 603, or is better the ASW610 ? Many thanks

[@justanotheryoutubeuser5029]

Ive heard the 608 and the 610 together with then 603 in an audio store. The main difference is you can notice the 610 digs deeper bass and more power at half volume compared to the 608. I would say go for the 610 if you have the 603 as it can match the loudness. The 608 is not bad but it’s noticeable when compared to the 610. Overall these subs are great for music and ill say for floorstanders like the 603, the 610 will be great. For bookshelf like the 607 and 606, the 608 does complement well. One thing i can tell you about both subs is, they are accurate and even a low volumes are just as punchy.

[@skylordsrebornpvpreplays5795]

the 610, easily. for 90% of users I would say

[@skylordsrebornpvpreplays5795]

the is 608 is really fantastic as well

[@maurizio7626]

Great video. Love B&W subs always a good product. I got 2 asw 650 in my theatre room up front. Do you think adding to 608 to the rear would blend in nicely.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Per the pinned comment I would run a REL 1003 instead.

[@sepikmees]

Great review! I’m looking for a decent sub for my 2.0 PC speakers (they have lfe output). In my 400€ price range which do I choose? ASW608 or DALI SUB C-8 D? Mainly for listening music. Room is about 25sqm (260sqft).

[@sepikmees]

I read that you recommend REL HT 1003 instead ASW608, but they are a bit pricey here in Estonia, 650€.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@sepikmees oh man, 650 euro is too much for the 1003. I like the ASW608, as long as you are okay with it's limited power output it is a fantastic subwoofer! The Dali I havn't heard as they're not very popular here int he USA :( but per the spec it looks to have a little bit more power.

[@sepikmees]

@@NemoPropaganda Thank you for quick reply! I think, I’m going with the ASW608. It has more features, especially this EQ feature for bad placement. Who knows what kind of sorcery is this :) I have a question about RCA line in connections. Why is there R and L line in? Do I need Y cable? User’s manual shows connection cable between LFE and L line in only. Sorry, I’m newbie in hi-fi world :)

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@sepikmees If the manual specifies 1 cable from LFE to the L input then do it that way. Bass is mono so that is correct. Some subwoofers don't specify which input to use for LFE and in that case you can use a Y cable but if the manual specifies then I would follow the manual :). The L and R input is there for guys like me who don't have an LFE output. Instead I use L and R preouts from my preamplifier so I need both cables. So basically it just depends what kind of gear you have since you have LFE output you would use the single cable for guys like me that have pre out we have to use 2 cables but there is no real difference either way it just has to do with the kind of components we have.

[@aristeidisnoutsos2261]

Great review! I agree with everything you said, although there is one annoying thing with this sub: its woofer produces a rattling sound when it’s asked to dig very deep. Otherwise it’s very musical, and despite the big price differential I find it complements my 805d very well (although I’m tempted by B&W’s flagship subwoofer range that dig very deep indeed - and I’m sure without the pesky rattling) I just feel that it’s not worth investing in the DB2d before I move to a place where I can control the lowest frequencies better. OK, great stuff. Again, thanks for the informative review.

[@NemoPropaganda]

You are correct but that is when you should use the roll off switch. DB2D is too expensive but if you want matching BW sub I'm sure it's really good.

[@djs2356]

@@NemoPropaganda great conversation....right about the price of the db2d.

[@yannick930]

I'm considering this sub. It's nice to have a good insight. Thanks Do you have experience with Rel acoustics sub ? Specially the T-zero ?

[@yannick930]

@@NemoPropaganda I saw your comparison. Very informative. But i'm still very interested by Rel because everybody swears it is the king for music. I have a small room so i'm really looking for the maximum quality and resolution. I like the fact that the BW is very affordable and everything you said is what i'm looking for but the bug in my head will kill me if i don't do a compareason before buying. :)

[@yannick930]

@@NemoPropaganda I live in Paris, France. I just saw them both on son-video.com. I think i'm gonna buy both and return what suit less my room. I'l keep you posted.Thanks

[@yannick930]

@@NemoPropaganda I will for sure. I just hope with this covid19 situation the delivery time is not too long :( and the return process easy :)

[@yannick930]

I'm back after a long time because the delivery was a nightmare. I got both only 1 week ago but i'm starting to get a feel of them in my room. The B&W wins for me. Not because of the sound because the Rel if i'm honest digs deeper and is more define but i can't stand their high level connection. It is a nightmare to use, specially when you want to change amps. You have to be carreful of what you associate them with. Plus there is less output and you can't change modes like the ABC position with the B&W. It is ideal when you want to watch movies. You need real pressure and the B&W gives me that option. I have to admit the Batman vs superman BO was amazing with both, Hans zimmer's music need real subs to shine. The Rel digs deeper and it is a little bit cleaner but not that much and frankly the little difference doesn't justify the price difference for me. I'll probably keep the B&W but i need more time with them. I just regret buying a focal cub evo 7 month ago for 250 euro. If i knew 100 euro more was the difference... Thank you for putting me on. I really appreciate your approach toward hi-fi. i'm currently exploring speakers and diving deep into crossovers. I upgraded 2 speakers to try : The elac debut 2 b5.2 (i prefer smaller sizes too) and the Triangle Borea br02. The results were more than amazing. I'm starting to believe every speaker need a crossover upgrade. It's a little bit messy and not fun sometimes but the gain is mind..... We made comparison with friends who have more expensive speakers and they heard the difference. Sure their speakers dig deeper in the bass or had more extension in the trebble but the modification brought more clarity, definition in the mid bass, amazing coherence. They didn't feel like small speakers anymore. I'm getting carry out of subject but it is our passion. I hope everything went well for you and your loved ones.

[@yannick930]

@@NemoPropaganda I just saw the SE crossover, i'm pumped ! They did exactly what i've done. Jantzen Cross Cap Capacitor, Jantzen Superior Z-Cap, i put Mills Resistors, atohm zef mini cables with another cable more suited for the tweeter. All ofc coper with silver, occ core. The only thing i haven't change is the coils (i don't know yet how to mesure them but i'm learning). Nemo believe me it is a necessity and you should do it yourself. The gain is really substantial. I've watched and study on the side before deciding and i know now that only the most expensive speakers, 6k, 10k and more have this kind of attention in the crossover. And often it's brands like buchardt who brings real value to the table at those lower prices. It's another layer that gets pealed in the sound. I brought my modified triangle today at my local shop and man they were all amazed. They already knew something was weird when it sounded better than the Emit 10. way better in it's particular presentation. They're different speakers but the smoothness the triangle showed was from something that cost way more. I'm sure with the same treatment the emit will take back the crown but the value was there for the triangle. I can say with 3 speakers upgraded now :) it's a 15% to 30% gain. Which is enormous considering the kind of device we played with earlier at the store. It reminded me the difference when you put real power behind speakers which need it. The impression that everything open up and is more free. The bass becomes more define and detailed. Everything is cleaner and effortless. The feel that the woofers can really express all they have to give. I'm using a lot of superlative but it's the joy. I go back and forth with my opinion too but i'm sure of this fact. I've been playing with the modified elac for 2 months now and with the lock down i've played my records 2 or 3 times now. Every time having the impression of rediscovering my favourite ones. And my conclusion was i felt like for the first time my speakers could compete with my mid-rannge headphones like the HIFIMAN he 400s or the Sennheiser HD 660s. And for a 300 euro speaker to give me that level of performance just with a crossover upgrade. I can't imagine what the buchardt will give you. Ok, i stp my sell's speach lol

[@andrewpeel912]

Have you considered reviewing the b&W db series subs? I'm now running a b&W DB2d, fantastic sub, well worth a listen. I went from a DB2d to a JL e110, and then back to another DB2d.

[@NemoPropaganda]

yes but the price is very high and I don't have any relationship with them so no way to get a review sample.

[@clintoncox3887]

Do you think this sub would be an alright fit for apartment living if I set the EQ at the highest setting of 36Hz? I had an SB2000 pro but had to return it because it was just too much and I’m looking for more musicality than HT. Anyways keep up the great content man! I like your down to earth reviews that really showcase your knowledge and the product.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Thank you for the kind words. Tonally, musically, and the articulation of the 608 will be better than the 2000 pro but overall output will be power limited to the 200w peak power figure. make no mistake though this little sub can still trigger a complaint from the neighbors if you're not careful :). When i lived in an apartment i had my sub on a granite slab that was about 1.25" thick and the granite lay on a small rubber pad about 1/8" thick. I never got any complaints so maybe something like that would help too.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Also 1 last thing, around this price range my SQ pick in this price range is now the REL HT-1003 or Rythmik L12. Their sq are comparable in many ways but with a lot more room for growth and big output when needed.

[@clintoncox3887]

@@NemoPropaganda Awesome man thanks! I didn’t think of getting something solid like that below it. I’ll check out those other subs too.

[@kipkiller1998]

@@NemoPropaganda rel ht1003 vs b&w asw610 which one is the better option of these 2.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@kipkiller1998 ht1003 for sure.

[@peterminartz4992]

Would you recommend the rel any time over de b&w asw608, the rel is al bit bigger. But i like the compact design of de b&w. It is also €100,- cheaper?

[@NemoPropaganda]

Per the sticky comment: "**2021 Updates/Context/Corrections** This review is fairly old now as is this specific model and things change. If you like the idea behind this subwoofer but can accommodate something larger my new SQ recommendation at this price point for North American consumers is the Rythmik L12 and for European customers the REL HT1003. If you don't need as much output the REL T5X is outstanding if you're looking for something very small but extremely high quality with respect to performance. "

[@tombaldwin3652]

I've just bought Marantz Melody M-CR412 & Bowers & Wilkins 606 for my living room, will this sub be a good addition to my set up?

[@NemoPropaganda]

Yes but i think an even better option with more output and similar SQ will be the REL 1003 or Rythmik L12.

[@JonathanMartinez-zd7om]

I'm really interested on the asw610 but also see the ht1003 a good option, I don't don't if I'm wrong but I see the asw610 has more features in the back. Does the ht1003 is still a better option over the asw610?

[@NemoPropaganda]

HT1003 is better for sure unless the 610 is a lot cheaper.

[@vivianokeswa488]

This sub reminds me of the Paradigm Sub10

[@andyjamo1961]

Hi I love your review, I need help to set up my ASW608 sub, I have Marantz PM7000N Integrated Amp with Bowers & Wilkins 607 S2 speakers, the manual that comes with the sub is not very helpful to me, I’ve tried various settings & I keep getting a continuous rumbling sound unless I turn the (line) volume to almost the minimum. What am I doing wrong. Currently connected to the sub to the left line input from the amp. From the top down, Auto, line vol 9.pm, low pass freq 36 (the 607’s have a lower freq response of 52 Hz) low pass filter out, bass extension A, EQ A, phase 0. Many thanks

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hey Andy, shoot me an email and i’ll see if i can help: [e-mail]

[@pjo1964]

I paid about $500usd for 4 of them , 2 left and 2 right. Sounds great!!!

[@NemoPropaganda]

that's a greta deal!

[@marcusm5127]

I had it for a week and returned it. Great options and tons of bass but the punch was just not there, it wasn't tight. I am coming from 15" Infinity towers with shit tweeters. Love the B&W 707 S2 so soft round but not low enough bass. Looking at aquireing a B&W DB4S for that tight controlled nimble bass.

[@marcusm5127]

@@NemoPropaganda Thank you I will look into it. My other problem is a Sonos Amp because it has arc so I can have good music and TV sound. Problem is when I connect a sub the amp applies a crossover and also changes the sound to the worse. If I let the amp play without a sub connected and then group another Sonos amp and let that amp handle the sub it sounds great. I wish I could turn off the crossover all together and then adjust the crossover in the sub instead. I found no good subs with high level inputs so I guess I am stuck with having another amp just for the sub.

[@marcusm5127]

@@NemoPropaganda I have the Sonos sub but it is boomy and not thight. The weird crossover eq setting does the same thing when I enable the Sonos sub as when I connect a sub with wire. My plan is to take an old connect amp and use it for sub out. I am very frustrated with Sonos but I am also very happy to hear music where ever I go. I will go and listen to some subs. Thanks for the tips.

[@marcusm5127]

Update I have a B&W DB4S demo unit at home now. It blends perfectly and the control is great. My o ly problem is the before mentioned Sonos issue and the price. Is the better bass worth 1700? I have learned how well the 707 S2 sound alone when no sub is connected.

[@darkknight7011]

Hey Nemo, Im using Magnepan 1.5's. Would you pick two of these or a single SVS SB1000???...In terms of SQ of course.

[@NemoPropaganda]

I don't have any experience with magnepan personally as my room is too small but based on conversations with owners they seem to get the best results from non-dsp models like REL or Rythmik. Hope that helps.

[@eugenescanzera4613]

Considering this or the 10" version. My room is large and I can not optimally place for best audio results. Will be used exclusively for turntable. As they are front-firing, can either be placed in a built-in bookshelf, bottom/floor, section?

[@NemoPropaganda]

You can place it in a bookshelf but it may rattle the shelf. At the price of the 10" version i would also consider the Rythmik F12-300. I have not heard it but it has double the power and many users report it being incredibly articulate and musical.

[@eugenescanzera4613]

@@NemoPropaganda Greatly appreciate the response. I will look into the Rythmik F12-300's and let you know the final decision.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@eugenescanzera4613 Cool, I'm very tempted to order one for myself :D

[@johnwoods7891]

Great review!! I bought an Audioquest Black Lab cable to hook it up, which comes with a ground wire on each end.. but I don't see a spot on the back of the unit to hook the ground to.. can you help?

[@NemoPropaganda]

Sorry I don't use nor trust audioquest products.

[@johnwoods7891]

@@NemoPropaganda would you mind briefly sharing your reasons.. and what cables do you recommend

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@johnwoods7891 I'd rather not get into it but the information is out there and easy to find if you're interested. Personally I use Maze Audio Ref4 cables for power & speakers and Analysis Plus Oval One for RCA.

[@andreasmoller9798]

I have asw610 since years back thinking of plugging it back to my system, my new b&w 702 s2 lacks a bit on the lowend, i was a beginner once i first bought asw610 so didin’t know how to set it up right

[@NemoPropaganda]

I think it's worth trying out :)

[@entropywins_]

Can get them in store at best buy for $240 these days, a lot of the Bowers 600 series stuff is clearancing at awesome prices

[@NemoPropaganda]

$599 here :/, you may be in a different region.

[@entropywins_]

@NemoPropaganda for the $240 price it has to be ordered in the store, online will show full price Also has to be the black color

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@entropywins_ okay, that's cool, $240 is a very fair price.

[@jpahlstrom]

Do you have any opinion on the ASW610 (and perhaps also the more powerful ASW610XP)

[@jpahlstrom]

Thanks for that!! I'll google the rms and what that means in this kind of music/movie application. 😁

[@willbrink]

There's really not that many "musical" subs out there, but far more now than there used to be and for less $ than it used to be. BTW, Velodyne is back in biz.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Oh I know, their DB 12" just landed at my doorstep :D

[@willbrink]

@@NemoPropaganda That's great. I look forward to the review. They were way ahead of the curve on producing powerful accurate musical subs and their HGS line set the standard at the time. 20+ years later, mine still sounds great. How did ye come to posses the DB 12 for review?

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@willbrink UK distributor sent me one.

[@Baz-s1983]

Do you think two of these would be great in a small room home cinema use mostly

[@NemoPropaganda]

no, this subwoofer is great for lower volumes but does not have the output for theater in any size room.

[@Ashuch1972]

Hi @Nemo, i have asw608 and there is fluttering issue in some of contents ! How do i solve it ? My volume is at half and i am getting fluttering issue even in 50 decibels, specifically in “ nocturnal animals “ trailer on KZbin!

[@NemoPropaganda]

Where is the bass extension switch set? A,B, or C?

[@Ashuch1972]

@@NemoPropaganda it is set at “A” currently

[@NemoPropaganda]

Change it to B if it happens a lot. Or just avoid content like that. Movies have tremendous LFE that many small subs simply can’t handle.