Neo Geo on the Sega Genesis

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Sega Lord X

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Let's look at some of those Neo Geo ports on the Sega Genesis.
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Episode Notes:
1. All games captured on real hardware. The Neo Geo was a consolized MVS 1 slot with Universe Bios.
2. I tried to avoid commenting on the what I felt were the original games quality. Needless to say, a number of these are not my favorite fighters on the Neo Geo.
3. I much prefer Samurai Shodown on the Sega CD. The gameplay is so much better.
4. Of this bunch, Super Baseball 2020 is my favorite. Fantastic game that one.
5. The Neo Geo port possibilities missed some games I think the Genesis could have done really well. Baseball Stars. League Bowling. Cyber Lip. Last Resort. I mean I'm shocked no publisher went after them.
6. One thing I really didn't touch on here was that many of these supported the 6 button controller on the Genesis. In some cases it helped with the gameplay.

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@torshec8634
@torshec8634 Жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity to have the intro be the NEO-GEO intro ending with "SEGA"
@STP.83
@STP.83 Жыл бұрын
Never knew how big the differences are between Genesis and NeoGeo. Big respect to the NeoGeo for its power.
@Prizrak-hv6qk
@Prizrak-hv6qk Жыл бұрын
It wasn't hard to put together specs that trounced all of the mass market 16-bit consoles. They were specked around being sold for $200 (90's dollars), requiring countless compromises. The Neo-Geo cost over three times as much and so did each of its games (due to the crazy ROM sizes). All arcade systems thoroughly trounced the mass market consoles back then. Still, the difference between home and arcade specs was less than in the 8-bit days and many talented developers were able to create reasonable approximations of arcade games on those $200 consoles, working with much less ROM too.
@frankiebeans8055
@frankiebeans8055 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a neo-geo in the store as a kid and the $700.00 dollar price tag was insane. I won’t lie I wish I could have got it from the box art games I’ve seen.
@SuperHns
@SuperHns Жыл бұрын
Man I remember seeing this in the 90s, I had a PC and Sega MD, seeing the NEO GEO was like a wet dream but the games costed as much as 2 Sega Mega Drive consoles... I come from the Netherlands and that thing was so expensive.
@FWDSUXARSE
@FWDSUXARSE Жыл бұрын
When this came out I was ten. My parents couldn't even afford a Sega Genesis let alone a Neo Geo, so I did odd jobs doing garden work over the summer to buy my Sega Genesis, and didn't buy a Neo Geo until 2016 when I picked up a Consolized MVS that was in an AES shell. Had to go that route because the MVS carts are less expensive (still expensive relatively speaking though) then the AES games.
@vasilas432
@vasilas432 Жыл бұрын
@@FWDSUXARSE I have a consolized 2 slot. Mvs games is the way to go. Still very expensive especially if there are complete matching kits. I used to have an Ωmega but it had poor RGB image quality and sold it
@thehound1359
@thehound1359 Жыл бұрын
I remember asking for it for Christmas. I obviously never got it. That today is like 1,600 dollars.
@jamesmandahl444
@jamesmandahl444 Жыл бұрын
One of the few reviewers that has played it all from the outset. This is rare. You walk the line perfectly between taking the hobby seriously enough while not taking yourself too seriously. Your work is appreciated homie.
@stevesteve0521
@stevesteve0521 Жыл бұрын
I really love the fatal fury 2 port on the genesis. The music in my opinion is even better than the arcade and I feel like the genesis version plays slightly faster as well which is why that’s the port I always go back to play. Definitely a better port than the mediocre snes port for sure. Too bad we couldn’t get fatal fury special on the genesis.
@eppskevin
@eppskevin Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Completely agree
@nexusofice9135
@nexusofice9135 Жыл бұрын
I have to say I disagree. The Neo Geo have amazing music potential.
@miguelalexandre7499
@miguelalexandre7499 Жыл бұрын
100%
@zanegandini5350
@zanegandini5350 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if I'd say it plays faster than the Neo Geo original, but owning both versions for real hardware, I definitely think it plays better. I find that it's much easier to pull off special moves and combos than the original, and the AI is toned down enough to make it bearable in single player.
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 Жыл бұрын
Fatal Fury 2 was never meant to be played as a speed game, and the SNES nails the aspect of that, as well as the scoring system. I also don't like how healthbars take longer to take down on the Genesis version, takes too long to take opponents down. The speed code and juggle codes also turn the game into a clown show, so I never use those codes as I feel both break the game. I do love SLX's honesty on SS here, he notices the same things about the game that I do.
@Carsonj13
@Carsonj13 Жыл бұрын
I won't lie I always laugh whenever I hear you rip a bad game apart. You do it in such a stylish, professional manner... Your Wild Woody review is still one of my favorites for that reason.
@davidt3563
@davidt3563 Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@terencehill2320
@terencehill2320 Жыл бұрын
Oh come on you do lie.....atleast sometimes
@freddysandoval4252
@freddysandoval4252 Жыл бұрын
Neo Geo AND Genesis, in ONE video?!? Stop playing with my heart!!
@RicardoRandom691
@RicardoRandom691 Жыл бұрын
The Genesis had some fantastic Neo Geo conversions. I’d even go as far as calling them the most accurate conversions, even accounting for the 3D0 and x68000
@purplehaze2342
@purplehaze2342 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@RicardoRandom691
@RicardoRandom691 Жыл бұрын
@TrueSinister Sure, the Genesis can't touch either of those visually, but I think the Genesis versions feel more true to the Neo Geo originals in gameplay. Same goes for the SNES ports: They look and sound closer to the originals, but they gameplay isn't there. Even with the cutbacks in mind, I usually prefer the Sega versions.
@oscarzxn4067
@oscarzxn4067 Жыл бұрын
I dunno, I think that depends on the ports, some are way better than others
@stevesteve0521
@stevesteve0521 Жыл бұрын
Fatal fury 2 is a fantastic port on genesis. I believe it has a better soundtrack than even the arcade port and it seems to play faster as well.
@lukasmusil8714
@lukasmusil8714 Жыл бұрын
Some games on mega drive ain't bad, but the best way how to play Neo Geo games without emulation or real Neo Geo Hardware is Dreamcast and second is Saturn.
@MarginalSC
@MarginalSC Жыл бұрын
Fatal Fury 2's an interesting beast on the Genesis. It was completely rebuilt, and allows absolutely absurd combos.
@mattb6522
@mattb6522 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Neo Geo was way ahead of all other gaming systems in the early 90s. However, the Neo Geo console just wasn't a practical consumer purchase back then due to its exorbitant price. It seems like the developers did the best they could with the Genesis hardware and it was really the only feasible way for most people to play many of these Neo Geo classics at home. I had _Samurai Shodown_ on the Genesis and it was a blast to play even if it was far from arcade-perfect! I actually do appreciate them removing the zoom effect in _Art of Fighting_ on the Genesis! That effect always just gave me a headache when I played it in arcades! 😅
@AguilaDeOnix85
@AguilaDeOnix85 Жыл бұрын
Fatal Fury 2 was one of my faves on the Genesis. I rented it quite a bit. The drums on that version are sick as hell and generally the music. Never got a chance at playing the Neo Geo for the price but damn that system looks like a powerhouse.
@cax1175
@cax1175 Жыл бұрын
The Neo Geo is the most powerful thing ever created
@vasilas432
@vasilas432 Жыл бұрын
Giga power!
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 Жыл бұрын
Its a pocket calculator compared to a modern Phone
@zmortha12
@zmortha12 Жыл бұрын
I can appreciate your channel a lot! I’ve been a gamer with history chops but never thought a whole channel like yours would work so well. Your enthusiasm for sega is applauded and appreciated.
@colinfoster7149
@colinfoster7149 Жыл бұрын
The best era of gaming hands down. Everything strived to be arcade perfect, but nothing apart from the NEO GEO ever was. You went to the arcades to be amazed, and hoped your home console got a decent port. It’s not the same these days 😬
@buckroger6456
@buckroger6456 Жыл бұрын
I keep saying this, the 90s are the golden age of gaming.
@RetroRespawn
@RetroRespawn Жыл бұрын
@@buckroger6456 oh for sure! Such strides were made during that decade. The significance of which have never been replicated in later decades, in my opinion
@buckroger6456
@buckroger6456 Жыл бұрын
@@RetroRespawn 100%. The huge jump in graphics from 8bit to 16bit was just crazy. Then we seen a bunch of CD tech come into play that started to show us what games could look like and sound like with this new tech. The jump to 32bit with the PS1 was just mind blowing at the time. The 90s is the era in gaming that I find myself going back to play the most and personally feel like those games just hold up so well.
@Artimidorus
@Artimidorus Жыл бұрын
And then there was Strider...
@colinfoster7149
@colinfoster7149 Жыл бұрын
@@Artimidorus Strider was great, I bought it when I got my first Megadrive. That running down the mountain bit. Something so simple but so effective.
@InitialDL84
@InitialDL84 Жыл бұрын
Good to see videos from you man, they haven't been popping up on my feed lately! I played a majority of these games on my Genesis when they were released, which made me a fan of Neo Geo and SNK as a whole; still am today. I played the hell out of SamSho and Fatal Fury 2!
@markb5775
@markb5775 Жыл бұрын
Neo geo was a beast, awesome machine
@buckroger6456
@buckroger6456 Жыл бұрын
For me it was like bigfoot, you always heard about it and heard from a friend of a friend's former roommate who knew someone that has one, but yet you never seen one in the flesh. I use to want a Neo Geo way back then but gotta admit, there really wasn't much on the system I wanted to play back then.
@chuckhorizon7815
@chuckhorizon7815 Жыл бұрын
The Neo Geo is one system I always wanted to buy back in the day. Now I have a ton of Neo games emulated on disks for my Sega Dreamcast. I have most of them. The Baseball is Phenomenal! I love the Metal Slug games. Just bought Metal Slug Anthology on the PS4-5.
@ppgranja3
@ppgranja3 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video comparison. As a kid of the 80s and 90s, it was really cool to see those two side by side. Keep up the good work!
@l1uchill
@l1uchill Жыл бұрын
Great review once again! As a huge Sega fan I always enjoy seeing side by side comparisons and man were these great! Awesome video!
@buckroger6456
@buckroger6456 Жыл бұрын
Same here. I love the Sega Genesis and how we often got two completely different games from Snes to Genesis.
@Flash_Type
@Flash_Type Жыл бұрын
I'm a big neogeo fan, i had tons of fun on these ports back then. Amazing video as always!
@tetsuoshima2314
@tetsuoshima2314 Жыл бұрын
Awe, I still love the Samurai Shodown port on the Genesis, played the heck out of it and think it still holds up, overall impressive to me considering. Nice though on Super Baseball 2020
@Artimidorus
@Artimidorus Жыл бұрын
I also played it a lot, but that slow down was hard to get past. I guess I was just lucky that we didn't have arcades so I couldn't play the original. But like Street Fighter on SNES vs Sega - with SNES basically being a slide show at times.
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 Жыл бұрын
I was expecting Genesis to look like ass compared to Neo Geo but it holds up very well in many games
@matrixman7706
@matrixman7706 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised Sega didn’t use blast processing to speed up the game?
@MarginalSC
@MarginalSC Жыл бұрын
Really not that great. Ripped out half the moves.
@oddojaggins
@oddojaggins Жыл бұрын
Thanks SLX, you've given me a few new games to try
@SegaLordX
@SegaLordX Жыл бұрын
Have fun! Some of these aren't bad.
@Sataaa
@Sataaa Жыл бұрын
Oof, that high pitch sound at 10:53 threw me off for a bit, it was SO LOUD... I'm 37 and I still could hear it loud and clear! I wonder if the younger audience could hear it even more screeching! And it was during one of the best ports as well, that Art of Fighting port honestly feels better than the original in so many ways it might as well overall just be better. Great video!
@mtshark7
@mtshark7 Жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison video man! I loved Samurai Showdown on the Genesis. I remember when I bought it back in the day, I stayed up until 4 am playing it non-stop.
@c331hunt
@c331hunt Жыл бұрын
Man I love your videos. I had Samurai Showdown, Fatal Fury 2 and Viewpoint and loved playing them at home despite the limitations of the Mega Drive.
@xChris_Kentx
@xChris_Kentx Жыл бұрын
YES!!!! This is what I was wafting for you to cover!
@PyronsLair
@PyronsLair Жыл бұрын
very good ep as always, thank you!
@bdillmore40
@bdillmore40 Жыл бұрын
Absolute fantastic video SLX! I loved it!!!!
@darkstardarin
@darkstardarin 3 ай бұрын
King of the Monsters was my first game ever. My mind was blown when played the Arcade version on PS4, was almost like a whole new game.
@user-bs8nj2di9u
@user-bs8nj2di9u 12 күн бұрын
Awesome 👍
@slamjackson2137
@slamjackson2137 Жыл бұрын
Great content as always! I’d love to see a video covering arcade ports that didn’t see an American release.
@danielrecommends
@danielrecommends Жыл бұрын
I remember getting a Game Pro magazine that talked about the release of Samurai Showdown for Genesis and I was so pumped! I was too young to really know how bad it was compared to the original. I still treasure that memory and the excitement I felt when I finally bought the game and played it. I know you're a Sega guy but I think it would be cool to get a companion video of how the SNES versions of the SNK ports faired.
@JamesShow
@JamesShow Жыл бұрын
Loved this one start to finish!
@ps3inquisition441
@ps3inquisition441 Жыл бұрын
The Neo Geo is timeless, I love playing my consolized MVS, and it’s fun to collect those gigantic carts. I wish there was a Genesis port of Neo Turf Masters.
@nickparsons337
@nickparsons337 Жыл бұрын
Neo Turf Masters is the ONLY golf game that I've ever loved, and still play it all the time.
@johnfoster7823
@johnfoster7823 Жыл бұрын
I had forgot all about the Neo Geo add with the balls! The hot dog one was the one that was everywhere. I would rent the system for the weekend sometimes with Magician Lord and Viewpoint. I ended up working at that store and got to take it home for free. It really was something special for its time. Great episode. Thanks!
@SuperHns
@SuperHns Жыл бұрын
Man I remember seeing this in the 90s, I had a PC and Sega MD, seeing the NEO GEO was like a wet dream but the games costed as much as 2 Sega Mega Drive consoles...
@worldofretrogameplay6963
@worldofretrogameplay6963 Жыл бұрын
These Genesis ports are the reason why I bought an AES back in the day.
@MasterShake9000
@MasterShake9000 Жыл бұрын
Man, I have such fond memories of my mom renting a Neo Geo for me from time to time. Ghost Pilots was my fave game for the system and I was always hoping to see it ported.
@glazfe8112
@glazfe8112 Жыл бұрын
Your videos aren't helping me through some rough times. I hope you continue making great content as you always have.
@glenndoiron9317
@glenndoiron9317 Жыл бұрын
The SNES / Genesis could have had VERY good ports of these... if they were willing to produce $200 cartridges with enough ROM space.
@maroon9273
@maroon9273 Жыл бұрын
Arcade storage rom cartridges. Especially every single arcade game released on the snes and the genesis.
@ShanGamer1981
@ShanGamer1981 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff as always Mr Lord
@zsiles
@zsiles Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this.
@thajo310
@thajo310 Жыл бұрын
excellent work and presentation!
@SegaLordX
@SegaLordX Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@flubberlane8437
@flubberlane8437 Жыл бұрын
Awesome ! Can’t wait to watch
@robmason5799
@robmason5799 Жыл бұрын
What a great day to start off in the morning with breakfast and coffee and sega lord x!!!! And on the sega Dreamcast birthday of 9/9/22. Thank you sega lord x. I guess I’ll be playing some bro Geo games on my Dreamcast today.
@random-artifacts
@random-artifacts Жыл бұрын
Epic video as always!
@joek5882
@joek5882 Жыл бұрын
You even had my wife laughing during your "World of Heros" review! 🤣. Here's a question for your next "Ask SLX" video...I'm curious about your intros. Who does them and who's voice do we hear sing 🎶Sega🎶?
@kwizzeh
@kwizzeh Жыл бұрын
That NeoGeo ad with the silver balls is legendary and it left a lasting impression on kid me 30+ years ago lol
@stargazerlaurent6780
@stargazerlaurent6780 Жыл бұрын
SNES SNK ports were better sounding and more colorful but Genesis ports were more fun to play. Especially Art of Fighting.
@davidt3563
@davidt3563 Жыл бұрын
Dang it, that's it, I'm making a NEO GEO cabinet even if it kills me! Edit: Amazing idea for a video and you absolutely killed it!
@randy7894
@randy7894 Жыл бұрын
Less colour, sure. But the CRT screens masked that out a bit. Especially the dithering. A clever use of atrificial colouring.
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 Жыл бұрын
The Neo-Geo could technically display 4096 colors on screen at once vs. 64 for Genesis, though I don't think any games got anywhere near that - though the average neo-geo game would have at least twice the onscreen colors of the Genesis max.
@randy7894
@randy7894 Жыл бұрын
@@yellowblanka6058 Such an overkill :). 256 colours on screen is enough for games (looking at VGA, but those are even from a fixed palette). Maybe NEO-GEO had games with photographs in mind. (If so, glad it was never rialized :) It shows what kind of an absolute beast the NEO GEO was.
@derekbuckler9888
@derekbuckler9888 Жыл бұрын
I decided to try the original fatal fury on the Genesis one day, which I was skeptical about after trying the crappy snes version. Needless to say, I spent many an hour on that game. Not to mention fatal fury 2 as well, which I thought had a better combo system than the original arcade game. Unfortunately I can't say the same as samurai showdown, as I thought the super nes versions were much better. Granted though, the Genesis always has, and always will have a hell of a sound system. Thanks for covering this, oh and I've been an avid kof, sf, and Tekken player for over 30 years now. Haven't slowed down one bit, I also heard SNK is working on a new fatal fury. I honestly can't to get my hands on it
@vasilas432
@vasilas432 Жыл бұрын
Mega Drive has Blast Processing but Neo Geo has Giga Power
@alexojideagu
@alexojideagu Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see how much the Megadrive versions could be improved if cartridge size limitations are removed as we can today.
@nathanbalazonbautista418
@nathanbalazonbautista418 Жыл бұрын
Love that thumbnail so much. Makes me wanna be an SNK and SEGA fan.
@dukey03
@dukey03 Жыл бұрын
Haha I LOVE World Heroes on the Genesis! I grew up playing World Heroes and Fatal Fury 2 on the Genesis and love both of them to this day!
@dsidebotham
@dsidebotham Жыл бұрын
Great episode.
@benjismith593
@benjismith593 Жыл бұрын
You're a real one for this Sega Lord X! Great video! But at least they tried.
@SomeOrangeCat
@SomeOrangeCat Жыл бұрын
I'm picturing Sega of America back then lookin at SNK"s adverts and going "Oh...so that's how that feels..."
@Rohaldos
@Rohaldos Жыл бұрын
Probably the only gaming machine where some games were more expensive than the console itself :). Thank you for the video
@broosewee
@broosewee Жыл бұрын
Super Baseball 2020 is such a trip down memory lane for me!
@CarDietrich
@CarDietrich Жыл бұрын
I loved the Neo Geo in the Arcade back in the day, and I played the hell out of Fatal Fury for the Genesis on my CDX at home.
@tails7605
@tails7605 Жыл бұрын
SNK brought their titles to rival systems because they never viewed the Neo Geo as a competitor to the completion but rather a luxury product for arcade enthusiasts.
@VOAN
@VOAN Жыл бұрын
SNK brought it to console cause they were never competing in the home console space to begin with. It's the same deal with Sega before the 16-Bit era. Sega was releasing their games everywhere even on NES, they only stopped doing it when they were competing with the Super NES otherwise they always allow their games on every platform. Thunderforce III, Puyo Puyo, Columns, Frogger, and a Stalker game all end up on Super NES for some reason.
@dire51
@dire51 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered why a lot of the earlier Neo Geo games were never ported to any of the 16-bit consoles. I always wanted home ports of Magician Lord and Cyber-Lip, but it just wasn't to be.
@Old_Man_Jay
@Old_Man_Jay Жыл бұрын
yes I agree. some of the earlier neo Geo games probably would've ran quite well on the Genesis/mega drive hardware. not sure why they were adamant about stuffing the much larger 100+ mega bit games on 16 megabit cartridges. I guess it all boiled down to the obvious factor: Money.
@MegaShingo97
@MegaShingo97 Жыл бұрын
@@Old_Man_Jay The problem is that a game like Magician Lord for example is way less popular than an Art of Fighting or Fatal Fury, which might explain this.
@davidhiggins5198
@davidhiggins5198 Жыл бұрын
Great video love the content you put out and wish you'd follow with the neo geo on pc engine someday!
@SegaLordX
@SegaLordX Жыл бұрын
That would be a good episode. I'll look into it.
@maroon9273
@maroon9273 Жыл бұрын
@@SegaLordX great comparison including the sega cd and neo geo cd to join the party.
@MimosaSector
@MimosaSector Жыл бұрын
Thanks SLX!
@RetroGamingSpirit
@RetroGamingSpirit Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you. To my mind Fatal Fury 2 est the best port of a Neo·Geo game on Genesis. Great improvement of the gameplay
@mjdf122
@mjdf122 Жыл бұрын
This popped in my head Sega Lord X remember those Sega cd commercials there is no Nintendo CD haha brought me back thought you would like it
@RetroArcadeGuy
@RetroArcadeGuy Жыл бұрын
Bringing KOF Dream Match 99 to the table was really uncalled for. lol Hope you check sometime on that fan made KOF 98 prototype for the Genesis.
@miaouew
@miaouew Жыл бұрын
Love the pinch harmonic filled metal guitar sounds from Neo Geo, so silly and rad at the same time! My favorite system of ALL time, I still play the games every day.
@ABCD-iz3bl
@ABCD-iz3bl Жыл бұрын
Great content. Gotta mention the lack of 2-player mode in the Genesis version of Viewpoint. That’s a huge difference right there.
@Raphael_De_La_Ghetto
@Raphael_De_La_Ghetto Жыл бұрын
12:48🤣🤣 you had me rolling..damn that game got you out of character!
@KidInTheHall28
@KidInTheHall28 Жыл бұрын
Loved Samurai Shodown in the arcade and I remember back in '94 I think being very pleased with the Genesis version. They did a great job.
@stephandolby
@stephandolby Жыл бұрын
I know it's outside of the scope of this discussion, but the Neo-Geo was an odd machine. It had to use sprites to make up its backgrounds (whereas the Mega Drive uses 8x8 tiles), it didn't support transparency (SNES) or shadow and highlight (MD), and its 3D capabilities were non-existent... but it had sheer brute force power to get around most limitations (and the cartridge space to facilitate it), and its sound chip really is what the Mega Drive's should've been, to the point that you could probably recreate the majority of Mega Drive soundtracks on the Neo Geo, but I think it's fair to say that graphically speaking, Neo Geo ports of Mega Drive games wouldn't be so straightforward either (not that we had many).
@BlackMoore82
@BlackMoore82 Жыл бұрын
Thankfully there were a few New Geo MVS machines in the arcade that I went to growing up. So I played 3 Count Bout, Burning Fight, Cyber-Lip, Fatal Fury, The King of Fighters '94 & '95, Samurai Showdown I to III, Sengoku, Super Baseball 2020, and World Heroes quite frequently. Later on I had some of the SNES ports and the PS1 port of The King of Fighters '95.
@VOAN
@VOAN Жыл бұрын
I like how you spell it as New Geo cause in Japan the word neo also means new. NeoGeo means New Earth, MVS stands for Multi Video System and AES stands for Advance Entertainment System so the NeoGeo AES is a New Earth Advance Entertainment System.
@midwestmonster9886
@midwestmonster9886 Жыл бұрын
For me, the appeal of King of the Monsters 1 was getting to fight video game analogues of King Kong and Godzilla against one another. Taking Woo out of the ports negates that entirely.
@kennethd4958
@kennethd4958 Жыл бұрын
Honestly if it wasn't for the fact that I played the hell out of Super Baseball 2020... I would have thought the Genesis version was the more technically superior title side by side. Great video!
@isaac297
@isaac297 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is very underrated. Thank you for pumping out the content 👍🏼
@jeremygregorio7472
@jeremygregorio7472 Жыл бұрын
Fatal fury 2 as a completely unique combo system that's remarkably sophisticated for a game of that time
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 Жыл бұрын
The only combo system I know of for any version of FF 2 is if you turn on juggles by way of a code, which breaks how the game is supposed to play.
@jeremygregorio7472
@jeremygregorio7472 Жыл бұрын
@@Bloodreign1 I'm nowhere near good enough to make use of it but I gather that the Genesis version has juggles and longer combo chains with more scaling on the damage That said it probably breaks the game eight ways from Sunday. I don't think the game became well balanced until fatal fury special and at high level play is really only a handful of viable characters
@davidtran9444
@davidtran9444 Жыл бұрын
The Sega version of ff2 has a completely crazy combo system that requires no sort of code to implement. You could even string regular specials and desperations together for complete kill combos. There is a code that allows you to perform desperations without a flashing life bar that makes desperation-special-desperation combos possible. Plus most characters have infinite strings.
@juetroll
@juetroll Жыл бұрын
Nice job! The younger may not know about it, but the NeoGeo was a luxury home console - very few people could afford it - and a single game would cost just a much as the console itself! These ports allowed more people to have a glimpse, though limited, of the "SNK expérience". Émulation made it possible for me to finally taste the real thing! I have many found memories of finding ways to download and retrieve the roms: they were massive for the time's standards, and we only had slow, expensive Internet in Europe and 3.5" disks in the late 90s...
@thecunninlynguist
@thecunninlynguist Жыл бұрын
An underrated relationship....I always loved how the neo geo pocket could link with a dreamcast
@lordsofkobol7385
@lordsofkobol7385 Жыл бұрын
I never knew that 🤯
@reagandow850
@reagandow850 Жыл бұрын
What??? I didn’t know that either.
@thecunninlynguist
@thecunninlynguist Жыл бұрын
yeah, only a few NGP games worked for it (mostly the SNK v Capcom titles)..but had the DC not met an early grave, I'm sure it would've been expanded.
@lordsofkobol7385
@lordsofkobol7385 Жыл бұрын
@@thecunninlynguist I found the Dreamcast junkyard article and it got even less use than the vmu. Still love that it exists.
@brendanroberts1310
@brendanroberts1310 Жыл бұрын
I have both the dreamcast and neo geo colour pocket and some of the compatible games but the lead is really expensive unfortunately.
@fatherelijahcal9620
@fatherelijahcal9620 Жыл бұрын
It's easy to say that the developers "shouldn't have removed this" or "shouldn't have changed this" when doing the ports from one console to another, but unless you're in their shoes you don't really know what sort of limitations they had to deal with in order to make a port work on weaker hardware. It seems like for the most part these ports were done really well, but of course there had to be compromises made.
@Trusteft
@Trusteft Жыл бұрын
I still can't get used to how capacity is mentioned in megabit instead of kilobytes and megabytes. Using them since the early 80s it is so weird. Regardless, got to admit the genesis had great power for what and when it was.
@madspunky
@madspunky Жыл бұрын
Such a good video, I'm now hoping you do the same for the SNES ports!
@vasilas432
@vasilas432 Жыл бұрын
This is a Sega channel
@madspunky
@madspunky Жыл бұрын
@@vasilas432 Still, it's fun to compare systems! Wouldn't it be great to hear how the Genesis had better Neo Geo ports than the Super Nintendo? And I thought Sega Lord X occasionally discussed other systems.
@vasilas432
@vasilas432 Жыл бұрын
@@madspunky Yes a comparison would be fun. Sega Lord collects SNES anyways!
@chrislaustin
@chrislaustin Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Los Angeles as a kid, so I was exposed to all the best gaming had to offer, import shops, arcades, anime, etc. So I knew of the Neo Geo from the start, and one of my friends even had one, so I got to play it pretty regularly. The same way home versions of Street Fighter 2 were never going to match the arcade 1:1, the game play did, and that's what was important. A lot of the home translations of the time did well enough to bring the Neo Geo experience home, and the Genesis/MD was no different. Great video for sure, and maybe as a follow-up, you could do the SNES conversions, and see how they match up. Or maybe even SNES Vs Genesis in regards to conversions, and who had the better ones?
@gargilino6842
@gargilino6842 Жыл бұрын
Samurai Slodown on Genesis :O
@tyneishalewis9917
@tyneishalewis9917 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Sega Lord X! I recently discovered your channel. I have a Sega Dreamcast and Nintendo Switch. This video is awesome! Would you consider doing a buying guide episode for Sega Genesis? I was thinking about buying one, but with the Genesis Mini 1 & 2 out, I don't know where to start
@Vetal83
@Vetal83 Жыл бұрын
I always liked Sam Sho on genesis,planning to get one in my collection realy soon!
@SuperHns
@SuperHns Жыл бұрын
I love Art of Fighting and Fatal Fury 2 on SEGA
@nixneato
@nixneato Жыл бұрын
12:49 - Well I guess we all love the AVGN
@thomaselers7416
@thomaselers7416 Жыл бұрын
I almost forgot how amazing the Neo Geo is, wow!!!!! 🔥
@ultimateman55
@ultimateman55 Жыл бұрын
My favorite Neo Geo to Genesis port by far is Fatal Fury 2. It plays quite different from the Neo Geo game in a good way, allowing canceling of normals into special moves that the arcade didn't. And my favorite Neo Geo port on SNES is World Heroes 2. Fantastic port that plays a bit better than the arcade because of the SNES control scheme you can enable in the options menu.
@TheKing75691
@TheKing75691 Жыл бұрын
Love this bring me back....................................
@kevinharding3281
@kevinharding3281 Жыл бұрын
The Fatal Fury ports on Genesis actually play very well all things considered. The second game actually plays more like SPECIAL than it does 2 which is amazing.
@99Vood99
@99Vood99 Жыл бұрын
SLX, this is a great video - with storage being 'cheap' these days it would be interesting to see how newer developed games on the Genesis/MD stack up against the Neo Geo if the ROM sizes were identical. Although differences in sound are guaranteed as the Neo Geo's sound chip is better. That said it was a wrap for the Genesis/MD back in the day when the Neo Geo moved to ROM sizes in the triple digits.
@99Vood99
@99Vood99 Жыл бұрын
@Dances Rainy Streets the larger Genesis/MD ROM could help this. Neo Geo was essentially a 16bit system.
@matrixman7706
@matrixman7706 Жыл бұрын
It wouldn’t do much at all. The Genesis fanboys have this fantasy that a bigger cart would make things so much better and comparable to a system that is obviously much more advanced. Yeah, maybe you would get a few more things on screen, sprites, and maybe a couple of extra colors or detail, but it won’t be nowhere near close. hell, the Genesis was even limited compared to the SNES. The thing that that helped the genesis was having a pretty decent processor.
@matrixman7706
@matrixman7706 Жыл бұрын
@Dances Rainy Streets actually, there are home brew ports of sonic that actually run pretty fast on the SNES hardware. Almost comparable to the Genesis. I don’t think the SNES was pushed to its full capabilities and some homebrew ports are proving that. The Genesis problem was its limited color palette, and even according to this KZbin video, the Genesis was slowing down on some games. Any games that ran polygons on the Genesis look like total pixelated garbage. But in all fairness it was the same with the SNES, and yes, it did need a special chip to run polygons.
@matrixman7706
@matrixman7706 Жыл бұрын
@Dances Rainy Streets I think if they had a chance to tweak the sonic game on the SNES, I think it would be quite comparable to the Genesis.
@lordsofkobol7385
@lordsofkobol7385 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love those "questionable" ads at the end there.
@SerpentineDeity
@SerpentineDeity Жыл бұрын
"We are done with this steaming pile of cheetos." Damn, I hope the devs never see this video LOL
@StormsparkPegasus
@StormsparkPegasus Жыл бұрын
The Neo Geo's main strength was the fact that it didn't use pixels at all, but used an "everything is a sprite, including backgrounds" approach, while having a nearly unlimited number of sprites. And it had scaling abilities that were on par with Sega's Super Scalar arcade board, that would not be possible to duplicate on another home console until the Saturn.
@SegaLordX
@SegaLordX Жыл бұрын
The Neo Geo used sprites instead of background tiles, not pixels. It was also not on par with Sega's Super Scalers. Any of them.
@roberto1519
@roberto1519 Жыл бұрын
@@SegaLordX Even the SNES could do somethings that the MVS or even CPS1 or 2 boards couldn't, real transparencies. I don't think those boards could do 3D as the Genesis did as well, though I might be wrong on that. The Sega CD could scale both sprites and backgrounds, well represented in games such as SoulStar, the NEO GEO could only scale sprites.
@maroon9273
@maroon9273 Жыл бұрын
And don't forget the dreamcast and 6th gen consoles and up. Neo geo hands down is the best console in the 4th gen era and aged much better than all of the consoles combined.
@darktetsuya
@darktetsuya Жыл бұрын
I do remember renting a few of these, seemed to turn out some okay ports for the most part. the fatal fury games were pretty fun (and if you knew the code you could get the geese howard mirror match, his theme is pretty banging on genesis!) that was the best part when they let both players have all the characters? even the SNES version didn't do that!!
@vividleo
@vividleo Жыл бұрын
I remember playing samurai Shodown with friends never even notice the difference between arcade and 16 but it was done very nicely 😊
@retiredtidepodeater3339
@retiredtidepodeater3339 Жыл бұрын
Mannnnn there was nothing like going to the arcade in the 90's and seeing a NEO GEO MVS.. I would always check to see if they updated any of the games. Growing up on military basis, you would see these things everywhere from the shopette to the exchange. Good times!
@SegaLordX
@SegaLordX Жыл бұрын
Yup. I was always excited to find an MVS cab just to see what was in it.
@yeahyeahwowman8099
@yeahyeahwowman8099 Жыл бұрын
Man I used to play Metal Slug and Magical drop all the time on any Neo-Geo cabinet I could.
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