The History of the Pegasus | Battlestar Galactica Lore

The Battlestar Pegasus is a fan favorite vessel in both the original Glen A Larson and Ronald D Moore reimagined Battlestar Galactica series'. In both timelines, the arrival of the Pegasus serves as a turning point in humanity’s quest for survival and their journey to find a new home. In this video I talk about the history of this famous ship and how it left its mark to be remembered in the Battlestar Galactica mythos.
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[@shanenolan8252]

The scene when adama and cain confront eachother over the phone with was amazing especially the music.

[@MarkTelfer-tMarkCustomistation]

Prelude to war was amazing

[@kennethcook5939]

I can't think of the Pegasus without thinking of the showdown between Admiral Kane and Commander Adama, where each had ordered the other's assassination. Her XO, aboard Galactica, and Starbuck, aboard Pegasus, each awaiting for the coded order that never came. The tension in that scene was palpable. So good!

[@brianlindee220]

Lee should have been lashed for allowing the destruction of the pegasus given there was a way to save both ship's and rescue the colonists

[@jakeg3733]

@@brianlindee220 Not his fault. It was a production decision, if any of this were actually real both ships would have survived. Lee was a highly trained colonial officer, and also not an idiot. The options for saving both his father and his ship would have been painfully obvious to him. Nukes, proper positioning, and not leaving his entire airwing behind, which by the way provided zero effective protection to the fleet (where are they gonna rearm and refuel?)

[@ChanticoChulo]

Michelle MFing FORBES SO say we all She did that and I was so proud Ensign RO Laruen

[@bozhijak]

After Cains assassination i would have immediately taken Pegasus as the flag ship with Galactica as a backup. I'm retired military. I know that Ron wanted to stay close to the original story line in this case but in real life, i would have had Lee Adama's ass teaching preschool after that.

[@bush1701]

You would have had to rotate cains people off Pegasus as, well to avoid some sort of mutiny after what I saw it was less a command structure & more a, cult of personality over there Adama could never have had faith in those people Cain wasn't commanding a battlestar she was running a pirate ship murder rape kidnapping/pressganging civilians abandoning civilians to slow death by stranding them in deep space with no FTL(after stripping their vessels) to starvation or cylon discovery blackmarket trade amongst the senior officers no way Adama could have accepted those people under his command it's not as if they made much attempt to hide their actions being as deviant as, they are they didn't even see their conduct as, wrong how was he supposed to command such as, them how was he to command a battlestar fight cylons both within the fleet & without & hold his NOSE commanding a bunch of pirates all at the, same time!

[@lukemckay3262]

@@bush1701 saved me writing a reply👍👍👍 very well said. Put simply…. The Pegasus was infested with the worst elements of humanity. It’s loss as a ship and command hub was tragic for humanity…. The loss of it as a lightning rod for the worst elements of humanity was a boon.

[@donlott7072]

I was in the service. You do not have to follow unlawful orders. Which was what Cain gave. She was a trouble commander as well as a war criminal. She has civilians shot. Cannibalized civilian ships. Part of the military duty is to protect civilian.. she had no business being in command of anybody. She should have been relieved of her command thrown in the brig.

[@manwiththeredface7821]

I'm civilian (always have been) but even I saw zero sense in Adama staying on Galactica. The writers screwed up by making Pegasus too overpowered in relation to Galactica. Pegasus should've showed up with massive damage to her already to make Galactica as flagship (and Adama as admiral) a more logical choice.

[@wk8219]

The Cylons attack the 12 colonies. Commander Cain gives a serious look into the camera and says, "I Picked the Wrong Week to Stop Sniffing Glue".

[@NerdCookies]

😆

[@shanenolan8252]

Lol

[@NerdCookies]

I'm not familiar with that series but I'll have to check it out!

[@ryank5424]

And here I thought I was only one that remembers that show 😄 @Karly

[@YllibD]

The incredible destructive Pegasus. Fantastic 2 vs 1 battle with this ship, classic. 'Stand by all missiles for point blank launch' epic line. With the special chilled out Elaine music in background, genius as always stay nerdy, stay blessed you and Nick🙏

[@boxsmasher200000]

The re imagined series was the first time i ever really got to enjoy this franchise. So many good moments in it about this ship. But cannot place a single memorable moment. Just an amazing show with amazing twists and turns.

[@lenn55]

I much preferred the OG BSG series. The remake was just way too depressing and changed too many things. Most of the time it was too confusing to follow.

[@thefurrybastard1964]

Cylon: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar." Baltar: "It's Impossible!" Cylon: "No, it is a Battlestar."

[@MostlyPennyCat]

_"I guess he picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue"_

[@thefurrybastard1964]

@@MostlyPennyCat I see what you did there, and I approve!

[@firstsgt279]

@@MostlyPennyCat And quit calling me Shirley

[@SonnyThomasShow1]

I loved both Cains. Lloyd Bridges really made the character over the top. Michelle Forbes, already a scifi veteran due to Star Trek TNG, really fit in as a prefect character. Esp with he Razor film to explain why she is the way she is. Both schools of thought between Cain and Adama are correct. Given their situations, but Cain is much more stronger militarily. And the discipline is more to be respected. But Adama started off the same way but realized to keep the fleet cohesive, the remaining govt had to be recognized. The new series is a lot more realistic thant he original. And ever notice all the Hans they would find on all the habitable planets as they went along? You can't tell me that their firepower could not have easily taken them over and started a new life?? But I think some of the original cast and characters were better in the original series then the new. But the new one had so many more twists!

[@bozhijak]

After finding out her lover was a Cylon yea, I can see how she would snap and do the things she did.

[@tarn1135]

I liked the original more. Not because she didn’t do a good job but because I flipping hated that Moore and Ecks had the fetish of turning the best male characters in women. Starbuck was the smoking, drinking, gambling, womanizing, ace fighter pilot everyone in the late 70’s and 80’s guys wanted to be. Cain was the exact opposite of Adama in the og series with both being strong male characters where Adama was the defensive minded, loving, caring, and genuinely wanted to protect the last know pieces of humanity where as Cain was the offensive minded, devil may care military tactician who could care less about the civilians because he was hyper focused on making the cylons pay. It’s like Kirk and mirror universe Kirk. Ying and Yang. Boomer was literally the only black male pilot we saw or had and he was actually a good pilot and a fun character to have. But Moore had to turn Starbuck into a chick because, reason? Thrace was a good character in her own right just not as Starbuck. Cain being turned into a woman, because again reasons, she didn’t have the tactical mind we saw from Lloyd Bridges and she actively encouraged the rape of her former lover. Like what? Why? Boomer becomes a girl because, why again? Seriously they took the black warrior pilot and turned him into an Asian her whi also happens to be a skin job cylon? Just a lot of wasted potential.

[@SKBottom]

@@tarn1135 Boomer was also a communications expert that had a near genius IQ according to the backstory in the original

[@Kelkschiz]

Ships are the not always fully appreciated and uncredited characters of many epic sci-fi stories. And Pegasus does not disappoint, for me its story is about redemption for a flawed life. With a true heroes death.

[@DerpsWithWolves]

I see the two leaders, Adama and Cain, as analogous to Athena and Ares. Defensive strategic warfare "fighting to protect your friend", compared with aggressive tactical warfare "fighting to kill your enemy". This is both very much in line with the mythology-inspired nature of the series, but also quite indicative of real military doctrine, with a great many real-world nations and military leaders tending to lean one way or the other. As far as the ships themselves go, the Galactica has the class and history of an old Dreadnaught of our Earth, but the Pegasus feels more like a late-war WWII battleship, like an Iowa class. I have to love them both, but for different reasons.

[@thesenceofmorality]

In a different universe Adama and Cain could be one hell of a team. The perfect balance of aimed aggression and valuing of soldiers lives. Adama would always do what was necessary but I think he blamed himself too much for losses suffered which ate away at him far more so then they did Admiral Cain. Granted she didn't cope with them well either but that is another conversation.

[@Panthers7791]

I'll never understand why the Pegasus was sacrificed... It was clearly the better armed, armored and overall more capable battlestar... I get that this new series was all in on Galactica, but seriously... Sacrificing the aged and far less capable Galactica made the most tactical sense...M2C

[@ShadowDogProduction]

This has always bothered me. Like you said, the Galactica needs to survive because THAT'S the series, but the writers didn't do their jobs to justify it.

[@evos469]

They didn't even have to sacrifice either ship

[@NathanielHart1988]

They said that having the sets of both the Battlestars on the show was absolutely draining their budget so they knew the Pegasus had to go relatively quickly..

[@dalethelander3781]

@@NathanielHart1988 Not only was it draining the budget, but it was taking up soundstage space that could be used for other things. Vancouver Film Studios is a busy place.

[@Bartonfink3434]

From a tactical point of view they should have kept the Pegasus and sacrificed the galactica. Better armed, less damaged ship

[@SupremeHeretic]

Ahhh, my favorite ship. The ship that inspired Pegasus Actual. So beautiful! 😍 I love this video, Elaine!

[@NerdCookies]

Thank you Drew ❤

[@shanenolan8252]

Well drew you are pegasus actual.

[@antoniosanjurjo8442]

The news version of Pegasus is a true dreadnought a true Battleship

[@martinjrgensen8234]

Lee should have been shot for sacrificing it

[@mk84boom]

The Mercury class just looked the part. I wish we had more time with her in Ron's version of BSG.

[@Malbeefance]

The original Pegasus and Lloyd Bridges' Cain will always be my favorites. Seeing the Colonial equivalent of Gen. Patton was exciting. The conflict between the two commanders made me feel angry at them for not being able to come to terms. In contrast, the way the relationships in the Moore series played out, I felt more disappointment and disgust for the primary characters involved. In the original series I was able to root for both commanders and crews despite their differing approaches to fighting the war. In the Moore series, I could not find any way to feel hope for ADM. Cain or her crew. As far as the ships go, I prefer the original series over the Moore series but this is a minor thing as the Moore series ships were very exciting designs. I just prefer the original design, more.

[@hendrsb33]

When the Glen Larson BSG came out, I was too young to really appreciate it and gave up on it before the Galactica/Pegasus team-up came about... so the meeting of the battlestars was a complete surprise to me in the Ronald Moore iteration. I loved it. The appearance of the Pegasus gave a ray of hope with new characters and dramas to explore. The animosity between the two skippers and the ideological differences between the two crews kept me riveted. Admiral Cain was just... scary.

[@antoniosanjurjo8442]

Pegasus is a true Hero Ship great video thank you. 😊

[@EpicSOB_]

The loss of the Pegasus was the greatest tactical failure for the colonial fleet. Lee made a hopelessly bad call.

[@ryanarment5393]

To be fair, Lee did show command potential when getting the Pegasus out of the binary star system, but he should have devoted himself to improving. There were numerous bad calls. Admiral Adama owns a certain portion of the blame. He allowed large portions of the crews of both battlestars to muster out, and he didn't insist that both ships continue to run training programs to keep their skills sharp.

[@bush1701]

Agreed if one of the two ships had to be sacrificed ( & I'm not convinced either had to be)the logical choice was Galactica Pegasus being newer better armed much less battle worn it had 4 count them 4 fighter bays to Galactica's one operational flight pod (port side) as the starboard pod had been turned into a gift shop of all things & as far as I can tell the whole show if I'm not mistaken they only lanched & recovered sorties from the port flight pod adama should have transferred his flag & moved on sentimentality be damned not the logic tree of a real leader if I were Adama after the death of cain after a suitable amount of time (to keep the peace between the two vessels) I'd have swapped ships & Crews I would never have trusted cains people kidnapping rape & murder she operated Pegasus like a pirate ship & they were complicit with this conduct not the quality of people I'd show my back to but then I'm off the street I hear BEHAVIOR not words & I don't like what their behavior says !

[@tarn1135]

Yes he did

[@tarn1135]

@@bush1701 starboard is the right side of a ship. Port is the left. The port (left side) flight pod was the only operational one the Galactica had.

[@tarn1135]

@@ryanarment5393 not only did Adama screw up by allowing massive amounts of the military crews to “settle” on new caprica but he’s could be called incompetent by not using the time orbiting the planet to repair the starboard side flight pod and to replace the Galactica’s armor plates that we lost or stripped off before the fall of the colonies. According to the tech specs of the Peggy, she had the capability to actually build new Vipers and Raptors. So not only did Adama not train new people to fly, he didn’t repair or bring the Galactica to full operational status. Then his son sacrificed the survivors best and most powerful military asset to save the old barely operational Galactica. Christ I’d have had both Adama and Lee executed for incompetence if I was there.

[@marknovak6498]

The question of what you do after civilization was destroyed but the military command structure is intack is one conflict you have with the Pegasus. it was handy to resupply the fleet at key moments. As always I prefer the reimagined version as it is a more layered story.

[@kitfo18]

Enjoying the content more and more!

[@shanenolan8252]

Thanks guys you had me with the title. Love the thumbnail

[@danelamoreaux4166]

Always love the nerdy talk

[@erikhoxsey8186]

The forward salvo fire capabilities of both vessels make Battlestars interesting to me. RIP Pegasus and RIP Galactica. The remake/reboot series is some of my favorite sci-fi, EVER! I'm too young to have seen the original series. But I can always time machine back at some point to watch it.

[@tgarnett25]

The original series had promise, but it never got the support it needed from the network, or from Glen Larson for that matter. It was an interesting concept that decayed into a shameless cash grab because Star Wars was hot at the time. If you decide to watch the OG series, I recommend viewing the pilot, and an episode titled The Gun On Ice Planet Zero. Those stories are above average for the series as a whole.

[@paulbeaney4901]

I love the retro 80s look of the thumbnail 😍.

[@cryptolicious3738]

awesome video, ms nerd cookies

[@StantonSpaceGamir]

The Reimagined Mercury-class is a beast! Also the BSG-Deadlock pics of the Pegasus are awesome.

[@donovandelaney3171]

I hope we do get a World of Spaceships. The Pegasus will be on it.

[@martinjrgensen8234]

The reimagined Pegasus is one of the greatest starship designs ever. It looks absolutely monster and savage. The double inverted flightpod is a genius design idea.

[@philvanderlaan5942]

Read ‘ mutineers moon ‘ you will find a much more powerful ship .

[@whitetallon8784]

@@philvanderlaan5942 HAHA well ... I think The Armageddon Inheritance added something to that... as did Heir's of Empire with the Imperial Terra. But yes... H.I.M.P. DAHAK is one HELL of an idea for a starship.

[@philvanderlaan5942]

@@whitetallon8784 Han : It’s heading for that large moon Obi wan : That’s no moon , that’s a spaceship pretending to be a moon !

[@whitetallon8784]

@@philvanderlaan5942 BWAHAHAHAHA so true. I looked it up just now and It's actually LUKE that says the line... and he says heading for that "SMALL" moon. (emphasis mine) Earths moon would be a LARGE moon.... it's literally 20 TIMES the size of the first Death Star.

[@philvanderlaan5942]

@@whitetallon8784 Moff Tarkin : fear of this station will keep the local systems in line. Vader ( picking up Dahak ) WOW! Would you look at the time ? I got to pick up my gundark at the vet! See you later, ah bye!

[@SolarWraith]

They hit a grand slam with the design of the Pegasus...great looking ship.

[@chrysm6842]

Thanks !

[@eddelmar2868]

Nerd Cookie I was wondering if you could please discuss "Chronicles of Riddick". It has plenty of fans and followers including myself , I'm sure many would love to watch and listen to the video.

[@paulfoley3222]

Old enough to remember Lloyd Bridges as the original Kane, so it was very different - but agree the Pegasus was a kay factor in both series

[@nealsterling8151]

Michelle Forbes' Cain was super evil (not just what she did, but also what she allowed to happen on her ship). Great antagonist to Adama.

[@peterjones2834]

It would have been great if Dirk Bendict had been cast has Cain.

[@sgt.grinch3299]

My third video of this series. Great stuff as always. I thought it was Admiral Cain?

[@misterangel8486]

To the best ship of the fleet, cheers 😎🍻❤️ My love for Peggy is eternal 💖 Thx a gazillion Elaine.

[@pdbouie]

The reimagined Pegasus was the ish. Lee Adama should have been court-martialed and confined to a large empty broom closet (aka spaced). Never seen such beautiful ship wasted like that!! It's as if he thought they had Mercury class Battlestars pouring out their asses.

[@MelvinCruz]

Nice that your fantastic Calming Exitement makes a very interesting video about the 2 timeliness of the Pegasus,you forgot that the second time-line the ship crashed to one of the Cilon ships but one of the side ports get loose and crashed to a second one making a 2 by 1 destruction in its last mission. Bad they didn't decide to keep this battleship for a different line of storyline like jumping to rescue more humans to live at Earth.

[@necrosunderground]

Plenty of arguments can be made that Lee made a really bad call in sacrificing Pegasus, but I just want to say: that flight pod breaking off and slamming into the basestar was pretty damn epic. As for Cain: it's been so long since I watched the original 1978 story arc, that I really don't remember Colonel Cain that well (all due respect to Lloyd Bridges), but Michelle Forbes was pretty damn chilling as Admiral Cain. The conflict between her and Adama is one of the highest points of the reimagined series. Thanks, Elaine, great video!

[@dalethelander3781]

It's a tv show. If it's a bonehead move, it's RDM's bonehead move.

[@aaronjhen18]

Like the music

[@filthymcnasty5625]

I like both series.

[@dakariszulu]

Rewatching BSG on Peacock and the first 3 seasons are so amazingly written, Although Michelle Forbes is beyond amazing in both BSG and Razor, would've been great to see Beau Bridges as Cain to honour his father (I assume Jeff would be too expensive and probably too chill)

[@paulbeaney4901]

For those saying Lee was stupid, i propose this counter lol. You are not considering personnel. Risking that many trained personnel on an all or nothing gambit was STUPID and lee new it. He played the only card Adama left him and stripped pegasus of her birds and excess crew and saved Adamas ass. Personally, i think that was a mistake, even half crippled through a lack of manpower. If she had her air wing, both ships would have survived. The ramming thing is explainable as well. The pegasus simply had no personnel for damage control, and Lee was 100% offensive trying to take all fire off galactica. Damage mounts up quickly like that, and ftl tech in this universe doesn't like bumps, so it probably went offline in the early stages of getting 4 base stars' attention. In the rescue scene, when Pegasus jumps in and adama realises what's going on, he said "damm you Lee, thank you Lee." Meaning adama knew he was wrong and admits Lee has just saved the day.

[@adrianchatman5734]

The scene that struck me: "Give me your sidearm Mr. Belsen!" *Blam!* Me: Daaaammmmnnnn!!!😮😬

[@Shervin86]

10 cylons were here annoyed that the Pegasus gave them so much hell in all time lines! :p

[@Reality-Flash]

Pegasus and Galactica are both my favorite ships but Pegasus is my favorite. It's too bad there weren't more Dreadnought class Battle Stars Delta 6 show a different class which I wish I knew but still wish there were more of her series rest in peace Pegasus last of the dreadnoughts

[@pens8766]

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.

[@madrabbit9007]

I always thought the sacrifice of Pegasus was stupid. It was the newer and more powerful ship and as we later learned, Galactica was falling apart and would soon have to be abandoned.

[@dalethelander3781]

Blame RDM.

[@DasIllu]

I remember the Cylons calling the Pegasus an additional "Basestar" when surprised in a pincer attack. That one stuck with me from the 80s. I thought "yeah it makes sense that they call it like that, they are using their own language and terminology"

[@NathanielHart1988]

Where did you find those awesome pictures of Pegasus? I'd love to find some shots like that.

[@mk84boom]

You should do a video on the story of the Battlestar Prometheus.

[@Donnirononon]

Perfect, i just ordered the full blu ray collection last 3 weeks and it was way to short. I hope the revival show will be a bit deeper in terms of lore and longer

[@petexkinggodzilla]

The reimagining Battlestar Pegasus is absolutely the best Syfy military ship ever

[@bigbitehood1353]

I'd love a video about Baltar

[@edwardbenkert6394]

I'm enjoying both of them I have the whole TV series of Battlestar Galactica with Lauren Green and I've been watching the new series can't wait to see them find their new home

[@timetraveller3063]

Adama badly screwed up by not hailing the Borg Queen too assimilate the Cylons. They would have been defeated easily.

[@bocktordaytona5656]

Everyone talks about the "adama" manuver as the William adama turning point on the battle of new caprica.. But People often forget the Lee adama manuver wich was: killing 3 rocks with 1 bird.... that day Lee adama recieved the highest medal on the colonial army: The angry birds golden bird with bolts on the claws. We always remember, SO SAY WE ALL!

[@sid2112]

They should take Bridge's slapstick and dub it over his lines in BSG 78. That would be HI-larious!

[@RodgerRamjet]

Helena Cain was basically a War Criminal.. that you could hardly blame given the Cylons killed billions of humans. but, her dismissal of "Civilians" as simply a means to her own military ends, flys in the face of what had to be an Oath to PROTECT those Civilians at all costs.. a Cost she never took seriously, or to heart, by her easy consumption of Civilian ships and materials, with no regard at all for how defenseless she was now leaving those ships. I do like the newer Pegasus, and never noticed the massive increase in the Engines, or that it was supposedly the most advanced BS in the fleet. Lloyds Cain was all about duty, honor, destroying the Cylons.. i dont think he would cannibalize Civilian ships, leave them adrift to die at the hands of the Cylons, as Cain would/did without a care. a very nice twist/change up of Personalities in that scenario.

[@Brainfryde]

I found the twist ruined the lore. The new Cain is more of a tale told by a civilian a decade later. Even discarding the oath to protect, no military commander would do any of the things from the show. If not from a general sense of humanity, then from the known nature of military command. If she violates civilians, they are no longer the military. And you now have a crew all asking the same question: why should we follow when we think we could do better. Executing officers doesn't win you loyalty or fear; it earns you comment in the captain's log: lost at sea.

[@RodgerRamjet]

@@Brainfryde i guess you just have to go with " you are assuming its you, against the Entire Cylon fleet.. is that a "winnable scenario" for anyone ? No, reality is, you will still die, you are now just choosing how".. that is the thinking i think the writers were trying to convey.. and once you cross into the " We're going to die anyway, so whats a few more civvies deaths" mentality, true Military duty is history.. least thats my take, and she was already a dictatorial commander, now, willing to execute anyone questioning her commands, with enough like-minded people under her, to ensure it WOULD be carried out... I didnt think it ruined it, they werent trying to replicate BSG from 1978, only use it as reference.. and i loved her character.. in that i wanted her to die.. slowly.. and know it...... which is the mark of great writing.. but, thats MY take..

[@venommwolf]

Remember the Pegasus! Sacrificed for all mankind!

[@freddiewest47]

i like both Battlestars but the newer one was a true Beast of a ship even by colonial standards with all of its new features and capabilities with its firepower, assembly areas for new raptors and processing production for new vipers plus the added bonus of simulators for new pilots of raptors and vipers.

[@lenn55]

But wasn't the remains of the Pegasus found on a planet by Apollo, Starbuck and Cain's daughter? I know it was never said but it was implied that Count Ibly caused it.

[@TheRealOtakuJoe]

With an onboard viper production facility, the loss of the pegasus was huge. But my standout moment was first the arrival of the pegasus and the defiance of Adams when admiral Cain ordered the execution of the chief Tyrol and lieutenant agathon. Bear McCreary's score was masterful.

[@derekmcmanus8615]

The onboard viper manufacturing facility was a plot device to enable the Scar storyline and a fairly stupid idea to be honest.

[@noneed4me2n7]

OG Cain’s long term plan if occupying Gamorrah as a staging base for attacking the Cylons was totally unrealistic. Two Battlestars and a small portion of what’s left of humanity against the might of the Cylon Empire. They always should’ve followed the fleeing plan. Though Baltar knowing Adama’s plan of going to the 13th tribe sorta messed that all up. Plus they found that other Earth like planet much closer to there level of Tech mid season. I would’ve stayed there and built them up to stand against the Cylons if a final stand was all they’d get. At least they had a larger population to draw from with that other world. On the later series, Lee bungled big time sacrificing the newer battle star, with pilot training sims and a proper viper manufacturing bay. So many nerds have broken down much better plans and tactics to keep both ships. But if one had to go drop the bucket and keep the beast. Well that’s enough of my ramblings baked out of my mind. Cheers.

[@jbs7799]

I like the reimagined series of Pegasus

[@dennisud]

Thanks for reviewing Pegasus's history in both timelines! I only have a complaint directed to Ronald D. Moore on his sacrifice of the Pegasus. I know the series was based on the Galactica but why give up a ship that can Manufacture more fighters and other needed items? IMHO THat was a stupid move though I see why he did that as a plot tool. Still, it is aggravating. Thanks again for all you do.

[@derekmcmanus8615]

The manufacture idea was just a plot device to enable the Scar storyline. The idea of a warship also being an aircraft manufacturing facility is ridiculous in the Battlestar universe even in Star Trek they can't replicate shuttles or Starships. In the story the services of the mining ships where required to harvest the raw materials I'd like to know where all the complex electrical components come from or the parts for the HUD or dradis etc

[@dennisud]

@@derekmcmanus8615 The Fighter's that Mooore's Pegasus would turn out wouldn't have any sentience or A.I in them given the humans not giving the Cylos another chance to get to them from the inside. And, even Star Trek use Programmable Matter On Prodigy, Picard and Discovery! Now if your yalkingabout the OG Pegusus that's a different cann-of-worms!

[@dennisud]

@@derekmcmanus8615 Ai agreeon that but they used programmable Matter as sort of a Sci-Fi shortcut to do just that on Prodigy (Single person Shuttle), and Discovery (Weapons and other items). Please check those episodes and see. Now I think its a shortcut that is an easy way to do what they wanted! Non-sensicle It can be!

[@dank.sinatra]

Pegasus was wasted in the RDM series. It could have survived those three basestars and gotten out of there intact.

[@notapplicable1296]

Lee was in an impossible situation. His dear old dad won't take command of the Pegasus. There strategy from TBE beginning should have the Galactica being the ship whose crew had transferred to the Beast and if necessary the Bucket should have bee sacrificed. That would be more difficult the bucket (Galactica) couldn't take as much fire so they should've sacrificed the Galactica and a civilian ship if necessary to keep the Beast (Pegasus). I loved this show and miss the frack out of it

[@xxxlonewolf49]

The Pegasus was in drydock For the upgrade, but the software never got upgraded.

[@johnashton4776]

Just think in the original series, were given 8 episodes to the Pegasus,and D Moore had not sacrificed Pegasus.

[@stephendoherty8291]

As one of the most advanced ships in the fleet of Battlestars, its likely that either the best commander would captain it or they needed one of the most aggressive which was the case in both series. The fact that Galactica was soo old meant that the most ambitious captains didnt want it. Unlike the Galactica, Pegasus assumed they were the last and there were only a few civilian vessels. Kane did not have a strategy apart from what any aggressive captain would have- revenge. By bullying her command, she was left with a weakened sub-command. Kane in the original series was also involved in a skirmish that ended a whole section of the colony fleet yet he was acclaimed for surviving? In both cases the superior armour and firepower was likely the only reason humanity survived as its doubtful galactica could have take such punishment. Did Adama ever discuss what his views of Kane was before the Cylon attack? Why was Galactica of such interest to the Cylons attack on the colonies vs a more dangerous destroyer as Pegasus was. Was it just that Galactica could not be hacked? The Cylons must have known that Pegasus survived even if they could not know where it jumped to escape and it knew that Pegasus was offline in orbital shipyard so was also unhackable yet Galactica was the target. The Cylons must have feared adama more yet they had deep cover Cylons on board.

[@beleg1437]

Always think of 'Loren Green's New Wilderness' when I see him.

[@thefurrybastard1964]

Much preferred the Original Caine to the 2005 version.

[@scheidr]

That is a bad-ass looking ship! It's too bad they couldn't have kept it in the series. It would have enabled so many more story opportunities.

[@bradbarefoot2986]

I like the new Battlestars, but given a choice ... the original series Battlstars. They were large, in one of the paperback books done in the '70's Adama remarked the Galactica is so large that when a child as soon as it could walk an realize where it was ... would never walk over the ship, and re-step their path in their lifetime.

[@rudeegruenberg9184]

to be hoenst i wish you could do a space battleship yamato 2199 its one of my favorite spaceship of all time and its very underrated

[@jamiemezs9891]

In the new series The Pegasus should be saved for the future of the franchise.

[@marcusanders5320]

It was very sad to see the destruction of a far superior warship, but I can't help but admire the scene as it took out those battlestars in epic fashion.

[@donaldnevgonhapniv3084]

In the 70s series we have no proof of the PEGASUS ' loss; but what I never understood in either is where is the rest of the fleet? Battlestars are the core I understand, as carriers now or battleships a century ago, but no cruisers? Destroyers? Every ship could not have been destroyed, some had to be deployed, and every outpost? Weakest plot hole.

[@panowa8319]

In the original series, a two part episode "War of the Gods", it has been alleged that the wreckage that Apollo, Starbuck, and Sheba (Cain's daughter) found was that of the Pegasus.

[@IggyStardust1967]

That was inferred, yes. However, there was a deleted scene that showed it wasn't. Larson wanted to bring the Pegasus back in season 2, which of course, never happened. What Apollo and Starbuck didn't want Sheba to see, was a "half-man/half-goat" creature, that would have revealed what Count Iblis actually was.

[@jonathanchester5916]

Sometimes to win in chess you have to sacrifice your Queen.

[@ryank5424]

The reimagined Pegasus is a nice evolution of the original design (not a huge fan of the CIC). And a fan of the original. Sucked to see the loss of the vessel, but at least she took a couple of baseships with her.

[@Alexandria197]

I really like the reimagined Pegasus better. I have to agree that it's sacrifice should not have been made. It was a bad call on Commander Lee Adama's part....

[@stuew6]

What about video about Colonial Fleet's, Battles vs Cylon, Destroyed

[@mikekopack6441]

I preferred the original Pegasus story, and really had wished if they had a 2nd or 3rd season that they could have rediscovered the Pegasus. With the reboot, the Galactica was by far the weaker of the 2 ships and should have been the one sacrificed from a strategic standpoint (yeah yeah it wouldn't have happened because it's BSG, not BSP...)

[@matthewgreenwood4286]

You forgot the events of Razor. Also, I love this ship (RDM) it should have stayed instead of Galactica. However, I get why it didn’t.

[@darrellhall6622]

Cain would be our Patton.

[@jackmoorman6925]

I like the original one the best.

[@ScaryBaldMan]

I was disappointed to never hear Admiral Cain say, "Garmonging Cylons!" like Commander Cain used to.

[@dalethelander3781]

*gaulmonging

[@beaney56]

Lee Adama is the commander Riker of BSG 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheMattfranz]

True, another ridiculous sacrifice. On what planet can a bird of prey take down a Galaxy class?

[@Raz.C]

Is she saying "Yar," instead of "Year?" It very much sounds like it!

[@theblack2112]

Easy fix , sacrifice the galactica after the destruction of the Galactica rename the Pegasus to Galactica not the worst idea especially with everything that's happened in the show not saying anything bad against it I love it.. but there were a few farfetched plots in the show I mean Starbuck turns out to be an angel lol

[@TheMattfranz]

"Galactica - A'

[@Phrancis5]

TOS just used the same type of ship, whereas the reimagined series actually had a different, larger, more capable battle star with extra flight decks and even viper manufacturing capabilities. Obviously, it was silly to sacrifice the better ship, but ya know... plot.

[@dalethelander3781]

The Battlestar model for the original series cost Universal $50K to build. A different model would be difficult to justify to the studio bean counters. And it had already been shown in the pilot that all Battlestars are identical and all 500+ yahren old.

[@derekmcmanus8615]

Viper manufacturing facilities are a completely unrealistic idea

[@Phrancis5]

@@derekmcmanus8615 Building new F-18s on a Nimitz carrier is certainly unrealistic but they have FTL, artificial gravity, and all kinds of sci-fi tech that would be unrealistic to us. It's part of the plot so just go with it...

[@jfraz6246]

The Adama maneuver was visually beautiful but really unnecessary, but Loss of the Pegasus was Proof that Lee was not suited to be a ship captain

[@dalethelander3781]

It's a tv show. It had writers.

[@jfraz6246]

@@dalethelander3781 yah. A TV show that had a lot of common sense and realistic (for sci-fi) tactics and doctrine

[@dalethelander3781]

@@jfraz6246 So did ST TNG and DS9. Ron Moore worked on both of those.

[@Starbuck8008]

Adama/Thrace 2024

[@lordofpain3476]

The Pegasus was a cursed ship .

[@lucaschudleigh7193]

Probably the only terrible part about the new series was watching Lee torpedo his ship for no reason. Pegasus was a vastly superior ship with significantly reduced crew requirements, which made it the perfect ship to engage the fleet at New Caprica. Add in extra fighters and crew from the galactic and it would have been a devastating force. Hell, they could have sent both ships and wiped the floor with the cylons and been back before there was any danger to the fleet. So many options and they picked the absolute worst one. Very frustrating to watch, given how tactically intelligent the Adamas are. Le sigh… Fracking loved the Pegasus. Infinitely better looking than The Bucket.

[@Sailor-Dave]

I definitely prefer the re-imagined Pegasus, an absolute dreadnought of immense proportions. Cain in that series was cruelly interesting, murdering without mercy to achieve her military goals. Even facing death, she spit out, "Frack you!" as karma mowed her down. The Lloyd Bridges Cain was just reckless and pompous, and not nearly as interesting a character. The new Pegasus was given a giant farewell, too, diving into one Basestar as it delivered a right hook to another as the flight deck broke away from the main body of the ship.

[@tk423b]

Good soup.

[@donovandelaney3171]

The destruction of the Pegasus was stupid.