I tried SteamOS on NVIDIA hardware...

[@NerdNest]

Check out the Bazzite Interview ➡ kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ-0q5hnmbKZaLc Bluetooth Keyboard / Mouse ➡ amzn.to/4iOqxgx Horipad Steam ➡ amzn.to/3ZOfUBm

[@MagmaSlime-nb5ts]

You could always buy a mini PC and eGPU fgor like $1300. Yes its pricy, but ETA PRIME has shown how good these can be.

[@NerdNest]

Oh absolutely an option.

[@joshamole]

@@NerdNest where can I find that video about using controllers on windows you mentioned?

[@NerdNest]

here it is kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJm5Z5h4ja6dm9U

[@EhEhEhEINSTEIN]

Hey Bill, just curious why you don't use the volume keys on the Fosmon when the ROG NUC is hooked to the arcade cabinet?

[@joshuawalker7038]

I’m just gonna wait for valve to put out a tv console.

[@ThaexakaMavro]

steamdeck hardware in a box call it a day for 150$

[@HeyJes]

@@ThaexakaMavro $150 lmao that's not gonna happen.

[@NerdNest]

No thanks, I want it to be more powerful than the deck. If you just put Steam deck in a box, that's no different than docking a steam deck. Though, for low end gaming, that would be a good entry point, just not for most.

[@joshuawalker7038]

@@NerdNest if it doesn’t match the ps5 and series X power then I think it’d be a bust

[@RETR0_P0CKET]

@@NerdNestI wouldn’t assume their console would be Steam Deck level hardware. They aren’t going to want something competitive with Sony and Microsoft. It will also need to be good enough for VR.

[@bobbydigital18]

I'm waiting patiently for SteamOS

[@biblemandelaeffect]

Why? steam works great with ubuntu + nvidia + proton. It works just like it does with a steam deck but as a PC.

[@bobbydigital18]

Legion Go has AMD, most of us are waiting for official steamOS for our handhelds not desktops. And even still, my desktop dual boots Windows/Bazzite

[@bobbydigital18]

@ can’t be mad at that I love bazzite as well, I’m just excited to have and officially supported on from valve. Plus anticheat being fixed because demand for it will be high cuz more Linux gamers

[@deadcaptainjames6045]

Steam OS full release is a meme at this point.

[@N3orion]

It will be free with Half Life III

[@DrDoomFate]

Shang Tsung: perfection must not be rushed.

[@vitorsilveira02]

Mini PCs are so nice. Unfortunately the ones that are good enough for gaming are so expensive

[@matthewal9545]

Vitcus 15l larger then a mini pc and powerful, but small then a clunky tower, you can go up to a 4070 with it. only downside its hp locked down.

[@D370n470r]

@@vitorsilveira02 consoles have become so big that now pcs has to be less mini to looks reasonably sized for a living room

[@Kennethlnor]

My livingroomPC is 11.5 litre. I use a Silverstone SG13 case. I only have the RX 6600 in it but I could fit 7800 XT. I run Bazzite.

[@HuddledEragon]

There is a type of Mini PC you could build and it roughly a size of a PS5 such as: Fractal Design Ridge Small Form Factor Mini ITX Gaming PC Case, AMD B650 Mini ITX, AMD Ryzen 7, Low Profile CPU Cooler, DDR5 32GB RAM, AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT, SFX or SFX-L PSU, 2TB m.2 gen 4 and finally make sure to look for deals or get certain components used. Basically I'm saying you could make a somewhat console size PC and the best part about it is you can actually put bazzite on it.

[@Apochalypze]

I am rocking the Minisforum Atomman G7 PT with Bazzite. 16 core Ryzen9 w/ 7600xt. No driver issues and runs great. You can get as a barebones system or 32gb/1tb config.

[@chasenhorizons]

Man, I cannot WAIT for SteamOS to come to all handhelds. Seriously, used a Windows-based Legion Go at my bros last night, and the experience is just absolutely horrible. It really makes me appreciate what Valve did and does with SteamOS.

[@kougamecs3876]

@@chasenhorizons I have one. As long as you don't update to the latest update for Windows 11 then you're good. Still need the OS for cisco studies

[@kougamecs3876]

@@Kennethlnor what's your ssd size??

[@Kennethlnor]

@@kougamecs3876 512GB on Legion Go, 2TB on Rog Ally and 1TB on STeam Deck OLED.

[@neil_9000]

I just disable UAC, I'm only installing things from steam, epic etc, so I'm not worried about rogue programs trying to run.

[@wearegeek]

🤡

[@Pruflas-Watts]

I resurrected my FX-8350 with RX 580 8GB rig with bazzite OS. It's absolutely amazing.

[@Captain-Chats]

I’m really getting pissed off with windows 11 I need steam os ASAP ! Working with my 4080

[@ZeroB4NG]

Still on Windows 10 ...no intention of touching 11 before i absolutely have to... and by that time they probably already released 12.

[@electricblue8196]

@@Captain-Chats I'm using 10/11 IoT LTSC versions

[@KJMcLaws]

​@@ZeroB4NG I'm waiting for either windows 12 or hopefully a steam os that can do everything I need it to. I'm currently Holding onto windows 10 because it feels like they changed things in 11 just to change it. I know my workflows and if I have to relearn everything at least with Linux it's customizable. If I do switch to Linux I'm not looking forward to 50% of my time getting things just to function. With windows it's usually 20%.

[@VektrumSimulacrum]

@KJMcLaws in b4 windows 12 is subscription based cuz reasons... 🫠

[@mattym00]

What pisses me off so much is every time you open a Microsoft app, you get annoying (work stopping) pop ups. Microsoft: I have noticed since last time you clicked (don't show me again) you still don't have edge set as your default browser. Press ok to sync all your computers data to OneDrive and we'll also make sure Teams boots on startup too.

[@or1on89]

The day SteamOS is out there is a Fractal Ridge waiting for me to build a SFF PC in it.

[@BTMaverick707]

Excited to see all the different Xbox OEM's hybrid PC/consoles that will run Steam and Xbox

[@peterd7009]

Happy Holidays Bill!! Always a pleasure watching your videos.

[@AthanImmortal]

9:18 I LOVE that cabinet. Definitely want to see more of it when you do more :D

[@claytonlopez76]

For the audio, here are two things that I use for my modded cabinet: 1: HDMI audio LCD controller 2: digital audio decoder DAC amplifier

[@adamredwine774]

Just installed Bazzite last week on my new desktop rig. Only a few games did not work despite having an NVIDIA gpu. It's annoying that I'll need to tinker to get those running, but on the whole I'm very satisfied.

[@danielcoffman1022]

That is what I do for my gaming PC. It is the best console I’ve ever done. What I did was install Linux distro of my choice, set my system to auto-login, auto launch Steam in big picture mode, and then I had a wireless keyboard in case I needed it. I honestly have a better gaming experience with this setup that I can imagine.

[@LloydOzil]

In this use case, you're better off getting a console. 100% this will be the way to go in the future with SteamOS and price drops for the hardware. Hopefully compatibility improves too for software and hardware. Subscribed too!

[@SeanHosie54]

Steamos is now installable using the steam deck image, if you create the image on a USB and choose reimage on your PC it will install on any computer now (AMD card only).

[@hassb6348]

I’ve been waiting for someone to make a “windows” controller that has a keyboard and precision touchpad built in the controller. I would pay good money for it

[@hassb6348]

Take a ps5 remote, keep the touchpad and place windows precision one, add a keyboard between the joysticks, make the ps button have a steam function, add 4 mini programmable buttons that are the most commonly used things like control+alt+ del etc. would be amazing

[@saberspecter]

To control volume on the arcade cabinet they sell those mini macro keys that have like three buttons and a volume knob. That might work plugged into the nook.

[@gerowen]

NVidia on Linux has been a problem for years. Linus Torvalds even said in an interview that they were the single worst company they'd ever worked with at that point in time, then faced the camera, gave it a middle finger and said, "Fuck you NVidia".

[@YetiMusicCity]

I've Never had any issues with Nvidia GPUs, their proprietary driver can be a problem though.

[@TerminalRealities]

8:02 if you spent more time on Linux you could probably get it working okay. The issue with those universal blue images is they are not friendly to editing system settings and installing anything you want. It works differently than normal machines, more or like a container that has multiple fallbacks.. so, if you really wanted to rock Linux on that machine, try doing it yourself. You could use arch or fedora and set it up the same and get the graphics to have a newer driver version. Bc I bet Bazzite does not have the latest versions. I get it you want other people to do the work for you

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

Dang. That's really expensive for laptop hardware with all the peripherals removed.

[@IanHummblebee]

I have a small Bluetooth keyboard (jlab?) that has a volume knob on it, not ideal but that might work, Velcro to the top of the cabinet? Keep up the great videos!

[@chrisyboy53]

I’ve been using it in my main rig using a 4070ti and I can say it works great! One thing I found missing was HDR on most distros which ok Bazzite using KDE just a simple switch and boom the screen was now blowing me away! I did wonder could the issue you were facing be with it being a mobile chip and that it you might be using intel GPU more so? Could be wrong here but I do hear what you’re saying about those Linux NVidia drivers! They are a pain at times.

[@Disgr-Ace]

I did this over a year ago. Good to see more people realise it. I ran game-mode on NVIDIA using arch the ui was screen tearing and nothing would boot except non-steam it was horrible.

[@Raisoko]

I’m so glad you did this video because I am also DONE with windows and am going to Bazzite at this point. I don’t play anything like valorant or destiny and used my steam deck to test all my current games first to make sure they work with Linux first. Also, running ryzen and an AMD 6700xt. Thinking of biting the bullet and going for a Sapphire Nitro+ 7900XTX. It’s a major bullet at the price but I’ll make the sacrifice for a couple years of gaming. Haven’t done a ton of research if my 3700x will be enough or if I’ll be CPU bottlenecked but if need be I’ll switch to a 5950x on my taichi x370 mobo. So glad you made this video. You ROCK 🤘

[@TheGrandRapidian]

So dude I had the black screen issue too, and I have been just hitting enter on my keyboard, and it has been signing me in and then the screen shows up. Maybe that is the issue you were having.

[@crippsverse]

I'm running Nobara 40 which comes with Steam, installs all the correct Nvidia stuff. It runs right out of the box. I use Sunshine and moonlight to stream to my projector with 3 wireless controllers (8bitdo). Everything just works. It even has Davinci Resolve support from the welcome screen.

[@SireDragonChester]

We need too see Valve to launch steam os in steam box. We know it’s coming. But Rumors are it’s being held back due to poor Linux support for GTX/RTX drivers. Even if steam os was just AMD hardware. I’d love see Valve launch steam console with zen 3+ /RDNA3 steam box with 16 GB Vram (256bit bus or better) and with 12-16 GB ddr4/5 system memory. Yeah Nvidia driver support for Linux I hear is awful, I tried years ago get my GTX 1080ti to work with HaloISO, and in game mode the pop up menu wouldn’t work 9 out 10 times. (The unofficial steam os ISO from steam community) desktop mode was fine. Game mode would buggy mess. 8 out 10 reboots it would crash or just get in stuck in rebooting, never even getting to game mode. I hear Nvidia driver support for Linux is slowly getting better. But yeah for best Linux experience. You want go with AMD a cpu and RDNA1 gpu or better. Though older Amd hardware works too. Looking very forward to when steam os comes to desktop PCs. Hopefully with both GTX/RTX driver support. But I suspect it be only AMD hardware at first.

[@SireDragonChester]

@Kennethlnor Yes I understand that. Linux is best on Amd and intel. But unfortunately (like me) there is still huge market share of ppl still on RTX or older GTX gpus. I Would love upgrade my old gtx 1080ti to 6900xt or better. But don’t have $900+ Canadian atm. Yes it that much last time I check. (Though that was 6+ months ago) If steam os launches sometime next year (2025) with only AMD/Intel support. I’m fine with that. Then I’d be forced upgrade my 1080ti and pick up something AMD RDNA2 or newer or maybe go with intel gpu. I hope once steam OS launches. Nvidia along many other hardware/software vendors, they’ll see windows as bloatware and see it better too support steam os and Linux (Vulkan.api) Steam deck is a success. I hope we see more Hardware from valve or future steam Consoles/steam deck or 3rd party hardware that fully support steam os. And yes it’s true. steam os don’t need support Nvidia. If enough ppl ditch bloated windows 10/11. Then Nvidia will have no choice. They either support steam os or they don’t. Steam community may make there own Nvidia support. Wouldn’t put past them.

[@camdustin9164]

@@Kennethlnor because most people have a NVIDIA card and most of those people is so used to Windows that they don’t even find it annoying. Most people won’t bother with Linux if it can’t use their hardwares to its full potential. If Steam wants SteamOS to gain traction, having good NVIDIA driver support is key.

[@SireDragonChester]

@Kennethlnor Valve is the one company I think that “could” force Nvidia to support steam os and/or Linux in general. Maybe not right now. But they could in very near future. Valve knows windows 10 and more bloated windows 11 has choke hold on pc market. For both hardware and software/gaming. By giving gamers a better option then windows. = a huge shift in how pc gaming happens. Steam deck tested the water and it was huge success. Now desktop pc and other devices are on Valves Radar. Windows days are numbers. Valve tried to show Linux was superior for pc gaming with steam machine 1.x, it failed but was learning lesson for valve and everybody. They didn’t have Vulkan.api then. Steam machines were nice idea but left it up to the users to figure out how run windows games under linux. It was horrible experience, and very few game companies made Linux ports of their games, often ran worst vs windows version. Hardware support was a lot worst then then it is now. Both AMD/Intel support Linux a lot more. Nvidia we know is very anti Linux supported. But it slowly gotten but better. But still not fully supported by Nvidia officially. Vulkan changed all this. Vulkan is reason why steam deck is successful. Vulkan is open source, DX 11/12/windows are NOT. Drivers/hardware vendors and software will be next thing Imo to jump to support steam os more. Valve is already getting ready to push steam os to next level, on other hardware. Valve said they want to bring to desktop pc, it IS going to happen. Either with or without Nvidia support. Gamers will jump to steam os for desktop pc and other mobile devices. And they will abandon windows like crazy. Ms has always had Choke hold on pc market. That imo is what could change and force anti company’s likes Nvidia to either embrace Linux or fail. Cus if official Nvidia can’t make drivers support. You can dam be sure the steam community will. We only need look at mod community on steam as example. Been gaming since intel 8088/86 been out. Building PCs since 90’s. Steam os could be what we’re all hoping will change pc gaming for the better.

[@SireDragonChester]

@Kennethlnor Yes we can hope valve does steam os correctly and it helps make pc gaming better for desktop PCs. And yes Linux will live on, no matter if steam os is a successful or failure on desktop pc. But I don’t think it will fail. not this time. The deck is already proof of this. If steam deck failed, then yes, I wouldn’t have much faith in valve Linux dream. But it didn’t. So steam os will only get better imo. Not worst. You do know that Vulkan.api was birthed from AMD mantle.api??. AMD proved too the world that DX 11 was bloatware. They showed that mantle.api often could run pc games better. At least on AMD hardware at the time. This actually forced Microsoft to created DX 12. Mantle was before DX 12 so Imo it was already ahead of it’s time. With that mantle success, mantle was abandon, but not before it was donated to Kronos group. Who then gave us next gen version of OpenGL. It was something NextGL or something. But it was later named Vulkan.api. Vulkan is true reason steam deck and Proton is successful. Valve hired more then few ppl for coding of proton and they hired a lot ppl to create steam os and using Arch, since it gets updates more frequently. You don’t see Microsoft pushing out updates for windows 11 almost every other day. If not every other day then it seems be almost weekly we’re seen steam os updates/changes or bug fixes. I am not Linux guy, I am Linux noob. But I know that Linux is superior when devs do the proper homework with it. Steam os/Steam deck/proton are all getting updates weekly. I’ve heard and seen more few ppl/pc gamers/Content creators drop bloated windows 11, and switch to other Linux distro because of how fed up they are with Microsoft and windows 11 bullshit. I don’t agree with you. I think there is a lot ppl who play games and are on Linux. How many million steam deck were sold? - Per Google they estimate that 4 million units sold in 2024. So for you say “ not many gamers playing games on Linux “. I’ve also seen reports (on KZbin short videos) Linux usage is on the uprise. Not down. You can’t say steam deck hasn’t brought more attention to Linux. You also can’t also say that valve has made Linux worst for pc gaming. It all has helped. Imo ms/windows should be very concerned. But they not. I don’t think microsoft “fully” realized the hole they dug themselves into and the continued to do for “Forcing” windows 11 bs requirement onto users. Ms only cares about it share holders. No the gamer or content creators/average users.

[@AndrePhilippeRamos]

Tried this recently too, Bill. Installed Bazzite on a Ryzen 3600 + RTX 2060 (6GB) mini ITX box. It just so happens that I am in the midst of a Dragon's Dogma 2 (best game that runs like crap that I've ever played) playthrough and, unfortunately, found out that DD2 (and any other VRAM-heavy game, apparently) is virtually unplayable on an Nvidia Bazzite machine. DD2 crashes almost without fail in the vocations menu, apparently due to the Nvidia driver's inability to deal with substantial VRAM spikes when the GPU's VRAM is already nearly maxed out. Big TV mode also runs like crap, in general, with the Nvidia RTX 2060.

[@pfhorsworn]

I did this with the AtomMan G7 PT, and it worked great with Bazzite.

[@mommasboyfilms]

I was waiting for a video like this for so long that I almost made it myself! Thank you!

[@victor2410]

Yeah im probably adapting my desktop pc to be my tv gaming console when steam os comes out. I'll just run a windows vm on my server for when i need something there. OS level suspend feature on a steam os gaming pc would be amazing and allow me to game a lot more. Loving it on switch and ps4pro.

[@u_kbh6038]

I really hope ASUS makes a more affordable AMD version of this Mini PC.. something with AMD Strix Halo 32 CUs! Great Vid.!

[@slc9800gtx]

If SteamOS offically releases, I will put it on my gaming laptop.

[@drunksupportcharacter]

I know you want to use the computer to setup like a console, but ill suggest try linux mint and maybe you can start up big picture like that? I say this as i brought a new prebuilt 4070 based and dumped mint on it as it has the driver manager with easy access to the propriety nvidia drivers, had it for over a month with my awkward 24/6 usage and it just works, been running over 120h of stalker 2 since i got it amongst other stuff. Depending on how bored i am in a few minutes i might order the 4060 version of this NUC that ill probably sync with my deck for the controller based games and whatnot at 2k

[@QuestionTheTruth]

Have you tested nobara linux on it?

[@Kirisuto33]

SteamOS (Bazzite and Chimera before it) is why I only get AMD hardware. I just upgraded from an RX5700 to an RX6650XT and am very happy with it. Didn’t even consider Nvidia as I haven’t used windows in about 2 years and can’t see myself going back.

[@Reanku]

Hey Bill. Been watching your videos for a while now. I had been using ChimeraOS on a HTPC using a 5700x and RX 6700 XT and it worked great, but I had issues with controllers losing connection. Seen you support Bazzite a bunch and I did some research and decided to give it a try because it comes with some pre installed stuff for controllers and whatnot. My controller issues are gone but now I have audio issues. Don't have the issues on my Steam Deck so I know it is something with HTPC parts or Bazzite. I know Nvidia isnt helping, but overall they aren't quite ready for broad use unless people are ready for some bugs. Seems like there are less issues with AMD CPU/apu than full GPU cards. Hopefully someday though.

[@cgethycx]

I just recently had a similar issue with a black screen after an update, although on CachyOS, after many reinstalls of the OS and trying different Desktop Environments. KDE was the only one causing issues and giving me black screen after booting. It turns out KDE was defaulting to 240Hz refresh rate, which my monitor can handle. The solution was to get a new video cable. Apparently not all cables are created equally. I have had no issues since. Side note give CachyOS a try, its a great Distro and is very easy to use.

[@AndrePhilippeRamos]

Went down a research rabbit hole stemming from this comment. Thanks, will try this out.

[@cgethycx]

@AndrePhilippeRamos my guess is the cable had enough strength to grab the default monitor refresh rate but then the cable did not have enough strength to push the higher refresh rate causing the monitor to go to black screen when trying to get to the log in screen. The live version is also default to 60Hz which is why the live CD with kde will show up.

[@AndrePhilippeRamos]

@@cgethycx Got CachyOS up and running a while ago. Generally Big Picture Mode runs much, much better there than on Bazzite. I did have to tinker with the firewall settings to get Steam local network transfers working. Thanks for the reco! Currently seeing how well things run (not getting my hopes too high up for Dragon's Dogma 2 though).

[@lexcelius6921]

Nvidia. Its getting better on Linux but generally AMD just works better on Linux. In General, even on the CPU side. Nvidia has actually started working on their Linux Drivers which means this will Change in 2 to 5 years. Especially so if you're on Debian Distros like Ubuntu and Mint.

[@manyrabidrats]

so, I actually threw linux on my desktop (pop_os!) and have an nvidia RTX 4070 super. It's been running stable for about 3 months now. nvidia actually did release some official linux drivers. my biggest issue so far is with HDR support, it works when enabled in games, but causes issues with steam big picture when enabled system-wide.

[@PlasmaSnake369]

Never had an issue playing games on TV with a controller with my Lenovo Legion laptop from 2017

[@JeremyLeePotocki]

For Nvidia users there is a alternative, but it's not a easy plug & play set up. Batocera allows Steam to be loaded regardless of GPUs (except if the GPU was just released) though you have to do a remote install (via WiFi) there are step by step tutorials on how to do it. When you install the Nividia Linux drivers, Steam, and the individual games the games will appear in Batocera's main menu (which you can use a controller to navigate). You can also install other flatpak software including browsers, Lutris, Minecraft, etc. However you can only use one app at a time like if you were using a console. I have a PC that has a RTX 4060 currently, but I am getting a AMD (or Intel) card to replace it. I am going to use that 4060 to make a SFF Batocera PC for the living room, or when I travel (the case is a Jonsbo T8 original with metal side panels instead of glass). It'll take about 2-4 hours to set up the software, but it'll be worth it. That said I do wish Valve would hurry up, and fix the Nvidia issues soon.

[@tschorsch]

Valve can't fix most of the Nvidia issues. That's up to Nvidia.

[@sycoclownx]

I know the form factor is appealing in this, but honestly I'd go with any amd mini pc that has oculink and an external graphics card. You can even 3d print your own or get a custom case printed by someone for you to put the graphics card and power supply inside of so it is hidden away. That would also probably saves a few hundred bucks on price.

[@Aaron-ui9tj]

I just couldn't stomach spending 2K on a system and still need to use frame gen. I do really enjoy the small console style gaming pc builds, and it gets me excited at the prospect of a Steam OS console.

[@JBot8888]

I got a trigkey AMD mini PC with a 5800h in it and had quite the time trying to get bazzite to work on it. I did finally get it up and running and the next time I booted it up it wasn't working. I just got a larger SSD to install inside it, in the extra slot, I'm gonna try again soon.

[@DUEL.FATALIS]

The thing is, you can get more powerful hardware if you just buy a laptop. For some reason these companies will build a mini system with all laptop components, and even though it doesn’t have a screen, trackpad, keyboard, speakers, etc. they’ll STILL charge more than a laptop for the same specs. Any laptop with these specs will have either HDMI 2.1 or display port one way or another. Just get a laptop. They don’t take up much more space, they are significantly more versatile, and theoretically there’s more surface area for better cooling. Plus significantly more variety of specs and prices. Edit: MSI Pulse 16” has the same specs (except 32GB of RAM instead of 64) and is priced at $1639. Has a trackpad, keyboard, 1tb SSD, HDMI 2.1, etc. There’s even an additional $200 rebate, bringing the price down to $1439. Not saying you have to buy THIS laptop. But just don’t overpay for PCs with laptop parts.

[@pxkqd]

I'd say any Arch linux like EndveourOS would be better than bazzite. I get the idea of Bazzite, but being based on Fedora is just a weird decision given Arch the edge and it's what Valve uses anyway.

[@GoblinArmyInYourWalls]

Never understood why they did this. But yeah EndeavourOS is perfectly fine for most users

[@Kennethlnor]

If Bazzite had not been based from Fedora Atomic I would not have used it. Arch is bleeding edge but SteamOS is far from it. Why have Bazzite if it should be based on the same OS as SteamOS? One of the reason I enjoy Linux is because there are a lot of choices. I'm maybe around Bill's age or a few years younger, I've used Linux since 2015 and I don't want to tinker and fiddle around with the operating system anymore. I just want to install the damn thing. Use Flathub for my software and start using the software... Steam, Heroic, FreeCAD and Ultimaker Cura. I want to click on one button/icon to update and upgrade the OS and the software. I don't want to use repositories and the only time I use the terminal is when I SSH into my servers. Is Arch better than Bazzite? Heck NO.

[@GoblinArmyInYourWalls]

@@Kennethlnor I mean, we don't have to tinker with steamOS, so that argument is moot. Distros like these usually use their own mirrors to update, it's not like you're updating SteamOS packages with pacman and yay. So the developers of the distros get access to the bleeding edge stuff, they get to filter it before it reaches the user.

[@Kennethlnor]

@@GoblinArmyInYourWalls SteamOS is only on the Steam Deck(and will be on the Legion Go S in 2025). It's obvious that you shouldn't have to tinker with SteamOS on the Steam Deck when Valve have full control over the hardware and the software. I like the Universal Blue project. I use their images on all my PC's. Bazzite for gaming PC's and Aurora for laptops. SD OLED vs. Rog Ally with Bazzite KDE Plasma 5.27.10 vs. KDE Plasma 6.2.4 KDE Framework 5.115.0 vs. KDE Framework 6.9.0 Qt 5.15.12 vs. Qt 6.8.1 Kernel 6.5.0-valve22 vs. Kernel 6.12.6-203.bazzite X11 vs. Wayland

[@MmntechCa]

Garuda would be a good choice if they offered bog standard KDE rather than their ugly (IMO) UI tweaks.

[@bobbydigital18]

Maybe it was the MOK key for secure boot? you have to register the key with password "universalblue". I had a previous install and i had the same issue with the black screen, great vid btw Happy Holidays!!

[@biblemandelaeffect]

Steam works great with ubuntu + nvidia + proton. It works just like it does with a steam deck but as a PC. I have tried it a few years ago and only gamed on that, but I am sure its much better now. It even had more compatibility than my steam deck had.

[@oleydermir722]

Ohh man, you should have check the Cooler Master NCore 100, it come with everything, and it fits a 4090

[@rklrkl64]

Nvidia drivers for Linux have always been an issue, primarily because they're closed source and therefore can't be shipped with the Linux kernel (if you run the latest stable kernel, Nvidia's closed source drivers will often break for weeks until Nvidia release a fixed driver) and the community can't help with driver development either. It's why Linux users tend to recommend AMD GPUs instead of Nvidia. I do suspect that the first SteamOS 3 ISO release will only be certified against a limited set of hardware (my guess is specific PC handhelds with an AMD APU), but you just know people will try it on desktops/laptops with Nvidia/Intel GPUs anyway (probably with bad results - Valve mjght be wise to block installation onto uncettified hardware, but the community would probably try to work around those blocks anyway).

[@guidokruijver2925]

Why not buying one of those fastAMD apu mini pc’s ???

[@JuanGarcia-lh1gv]

I used to run Steam's big screen mode on Ubuntu with an Nvidia GPU and it worked fine. I was using an older GPU and older games though.

[@chinogambino9375]

Don't mess about with miniPCs, just build a mini-itx PC with an AMD card. The footprint of a 8-10l case is like 1 bookshelf speaker with no external PSU.

[@arudanel5542]

Also those cheap aluminum rail open frame kits are great, and footprint is whatever the hell you want it to be, so long as the parts fit. Better yet, stick it to a wall. What desk space?

[@dr.download]

If you have the time, I would highly recommend trying Nobara Steam Deck Edition. It has game mode for nvidia cards, unlike bazzite.

[@pcallycat9043]

I can’t imagine trying to use a laptop equivalent with 8 gigs of video ram for 4K gaming….

[@markcahalan5698]

I wonder how an older NVidia GPU would work. Like a 1080 TI or 2080 TI. Those drivers, even the linux ones, should be mature at this point.

[@Finger112]

They should just come out with a NerdNestOS instead.

[@ChaoSJino]

I gave up 30 years of Windows about 3 months ago and I also tried Bazzite first... Now I'm using Nobara and am quite happy. And I am using Nobara as my daily driver on an Nvidia laptop, so... There is also the Nvidia thing. :) I would suggest you try it again with Nobara - it has Nvidia fixes and it works really well with Steam's "controller to mouse" and "on-screen keyboard via controller chord". Though I do need to mention it has much worse documentation than Bazzite. Also... Why does everyone claim Bazzite to be SteamOS? SteamOS is Arch, and Bazzite and Nobara are Fedora variants. I know it's all Linux at its core, but... The implementation differs, I think.

[@FranchiseTV]

Maybe an expensive tool but to control volume you can do an Elgato stream deck maybe? Get like the little one that’s 6 buttons and you can just set up a volume prompt on the keys.

[@luqmanr]

You should try another distribution like Chimera OS or Batocera

[@SmasherUGS]

Glad to know the nvidia hardware still isnt working as thats kind of what ive researched towards making me not test my main pc to run steamOS yet, but I hope it will be available by the time windows stops security updates unless they prolong that time (im not paying for that sub though).

[@OraOraOra]

Great video! Honestly as weird as it souds, but I like that people get louder on the Nvidia/Linux topic, hopefully that rings some bells in the headquarter. I mean nvidia... cmon all your great AI stuff is build on the fundation of Linux, even your new tiny little devices run Ubuntu! I'm sure when the nvidia issure is ironed out, that SteamOS and all the other Distros are "ready"

[@Franchise9920]

you are not the minority friend. Lots of persons now want to game on their nice new shiny TV with high refresh rates. having a mouse, keyboard and a controller while navigating windows is "less than desirable".

[@zajebanosaurus]

You can disable that prompt on windows. Also you can try cachyos.

[@s01itarygaming]

As a linux gamer with an nvidia card.... there's legitimately a decent chance it *is* an nvidia issue. Of all the things that cause me problems, having an nvidia card takes the cake; as soon as some good AMD cards hit the price range I'm aiming I'll be happily switching to team red

[@CFWhitman]

I would probably use a more conventional Linux distribution that had relatively good NVIDIA integration. This might mean using Xorg rather than Wayland at this point. Of course, it's not really fair of me to just put this comment out without mentioning that Linux is my daily driver, and I also support/administer all the Linux servers where I work. I also support Windows workstations at work and spend a significant amount of time in a Windows 10 virtual machine there as well.

[@Lugnut2002]

I had the same issue on my RTX 3090 PC using Nobara Linux which does launch in Steam game mode but doesn't work as well as the desktop version of steam. Everything works flawlessly HDR 4K 120 FPS vrr it all works, but when I'm not using my computer for a while, and I try to wake it up the screen is usually black, but all I have to do is hit (control+alt+ F2) which will bring up a command prompt and then hit (control+alt+F1) to go back and somehow it refreshes the screen and brings everything back to life. It's a little annoying to have to do but it's a work around.

[@YetiMusicCity]

Are you using Wayland or X11 ?

[@Lugnut2002]

Wayland

[@YetiMusicCity]

@@Lugnut2002 are you using 550 driver ? if not you can switch to X11 instead , there is an option on the login screen, example : GNOME ( default Wayland ) GNOME Xorg etc.. I also use Nobara.

[@Lugnut2002]

@@YetiMusicCity I know I have the option to, but I just don't want to lose the benefits of using Wayland. I don't know how it will affect HDR, & VRR if I do the switch. But I do appreciate your suggestion, and I'm still considering it.

[@Lugnut2002]

​@@YetiMusicCityI had to go check, but I'm using the 565.77 nvidia-driver and cuda-devel 12.6.68.

[@dbsasuke]

You can just turn off the User Control prompts on Windows. As long as you don’t download from sketchy places, you don’t need it

[@CJKile]

That arcade cabnet is Sick Bill! Cool video too by the way.

[@Boofener]

In a few years I would love to see valve test out arm processors for steam deck. Having a m3 or m4 equivalent arm system might be good enough balance for performance and battery life. Maybe they can work alongside amd

[@rhiethreal]

Linux Mint is what I switched to. Even my parents and friends I switched to it can feel right at home on it day 1. I game on Linux Mint with and a 13400F and a 4060Ti(16GB).

[@CADstruction]

Just build an radeon mini pc. Worls flawlessly

[@Guckkasten85]

Personally i use launchbox/BigBox on my pc,it's also hooked up on my tv. First setup is not really easy but once I am done It feels like a console =)

[@Yourorical]

3 and a half grand for a less than average 4070 is crazy

[@stevenrichman7101]

@@Yourorical its small, silent and Power efficient. If there would be an equivalent with all AMD components i would buy one :)

[@Yourorical]

@ just build a micro atx for half the price

[@markbrouwer9450]

@@Yourorical it's been $1,700 (US) at several retailers since before Black Friday. Tempting for me, as I don't have a lot of space or time to futz with a SFF homebrew. 5xxx series refresh looking to resume high MSRP (low $2K US) from what I've seen.

[@stormyandcold]

We're heading towards 3yrs after the release of the Steam Deck and official dual-boot still doesn't exist. Don't hold your breath. The way I see this playing out is SteamOS will be officially supported on a case-by-case basis only. I don't think general support is coming anytime soon. I would even go as far as no general support even in 10yrs time. In that time-frame we're more likely to see Steam games officially running on mobile.

[@rastamouse7861]

Minisforum makes a mini PC that has a 6600m in it that I think would be much better suited for Bazzite/Linux gaming and much more affordable too. It's called the HX99G, but I think there's a HX100G and HX80G with different configurations but the same discreet GPU. Probably not at powerful as the Nvidia 4070 mobile but it's more powerful than the current AMD iGPUs with the exception of possibly the 890m.

[@smashpro1]

Bazzite has been working great on my HTPC with a desktop RTX 4070 for months.

[@FlameForgedSoul]

Teamgroup NVMEs come with paper thin Carbon heatsinks, FWIW. Possibly a solution if things go pear-shaped. Also thank you, We ran into the exact same issue with the black screen prompting a forced reboot. In Our case disabling anything that shuts off/sleeps the monitor seems to have "fixed" this. Bazzite's power settings are assuming laptop/handheld as defaults, so setting all the power settings to "never" was the move. Clearly this isn't a viable long term solution and perhaps for many not even a short term one. Nvidia (in)famously refused to Play Ball with Apple (and vice versa to be fair), couple that with their "Go [ _Expletive Deleted_ ] your mother if you don't like our pricing/lack of vram/neglect of low-midrange options" mentality and We do not hold out much hope for them getting on board with SteamOS et al.

[@Ratorix]

your issue remember me the issue that I have with my old laptop, its has a 610M, pretty useless... but... pretty useful for breaking my OS... the first time everything work perfectly, I can even reboot. but some time after it's break and didn't display anything anymore... forcing me to install a new system. basically any distro based on ubuntu (and so probably debian) were breaking. only fedora ended up keeping working.

[@stratum42]

That ROG device is pretty cool. However for the price point and specs you're better off with a gaming laptop and docking station.

[@NerdNest]

I’ve used laptops. Windows laptops are so irritating when it comes to waking them without touching them.

[@NothingCoherent]

I'm really hoping Valve announces something soon. I'm deliberately delaying building a new PC because I'd rather get a Steam Console. Even if its a year away I'll wait and stretch out my old hardware. I just wanna know if it's something they're working on or not.

[@DarkSkyDarksky2021]

Totally agree with YOU brother about NVIDIA. I'm so sick of them talking about AI this or machine learning that and their stupid press conferences I don't care anymore. And all they seem to care about is making artificial frames instead of just making some damn good hardware that people can use at a good price. I jumped the ship and just built the last two PCS with AMD products and I do own a Intel MSI CLRW WHAT SHOULD BE HONEST I'M ACTUALLY KIND OF LIKING IT.

[@RosserNFT]

I'm two weeks in my ROG nuc and I find from a tech background. The Windows setup is still an effort. Looking forward to the day you add an eGPU in the next three years.

[@baerthe]

laptop gpu :( Ive been running bazzite with a desktop 4060TI and its been amazing, only issue is gamescope not working lol.

[@Tak_09]

Why not Build a Sff itx build. Im constantly travelling alot been using my build 12700f + 3080ti in a A4h20 for almost 3 years now. Been around the world and still wouldnt trade it for a laptop.

[@Toa-Ignicus]

Linux has a major issue that no one is talking about, that's keeping the Great Linux Desktop Movement from happening. There's too much hardware and there's too many chefs in the proverbial kitchen trying to make their EverythingOS. There are only two ways Linux can finally meat the market share that Linux users crave so desperately. 1. They either need focus their efforts on specific hardware like the SteamDeck or ROG Ally, or 2. They need to focus on specific combinations of PC hardware. The current approach is clearly not working and the sole reason that Valve still has not given us SteamOS 3.0 for general desktop users.

[@Kennethlnor]

As a GNU/Linux user I don't crave a larger market share. I don't think any GNU/Linux user do. If it's not for you, it's not for you. It's FOSS. You can do whatever you want with it. Valve doesn't make a general desktop OS and never will. They make an immutable OS for their handheld PC.

[@InnerFire6213]

they are doing that, that's why AMD APUs (or even all of their desktop GPUs really) work great with linux, you get TDP adjustment, button customisation and even RGB customisation all from the deck UI. Also too much hardware isn't the problem, it's specific brands actively unwilling to work with linux. NVIDIA kept their driver closed source and refuses to work with the linux devs. It's just like game developers who actively refusing to let their game work with Linux anticheat (literally every games these days work with linux without the devs doing anything except those with anticheat). The tools are there, they are just refusing to work with it, hell if they just give the released the drivers to linux devs they don't even have to do the work themselves

[@sergeykish]

Users switch to Linux with existing hardware. There is only one way - buying hardware supported by Linux makes other manufacturers to implement Linux support.

[@petemisc4291]

$1800 ouch, forget it!

[@lordrahl7033]

Super easy to disable UAC. First thing I do on every PC.

[@callumjones5451]

Windows is fine with the new video The Phawx put out regarding making windows like a console 😉 I do understand the appeal of steam os though, I do like it but not for my main pc

[@MmntechCa]

Nvidia was always the thing holding back SteamOS on the desktop. They've never really taken Linux development seriously, and refuse to open source their drivers. It's getting better. Probably because a lot of AI hardware runs Linux. If you want to run Linux for gaming, AMD is still your best bet. Though Intel is apparently getting a lot better as well. Both use the open source Mesa drivers.

[@Nucleosynthese]

I like the small form factor, but wow that mobile RTX 4070 is a lot slower than a real RTX 4070. Those get about 17.000 in 3d mark time spy

[@stephenmilazzo2535]

Whisper quiet? C'mon now.

[@gpimp1987]

Anyone tryout beelink's mini pc with the gpu dock??

[@Montisaquadeis]

Yeah my desktops have nvidia gpus so yeah i can't really use bazzite on them. Secondary system is an i5 3570k and 2060 super with 16gb of ram. My main desktop is a Ryzen 7 5800x3d and a 3070 Ti with 32gb of ram. So yeah the old i5 can't run officially on windows 11 and I will likely be replacing windows 10 with something like Endeavour OS instead of windows. Main system will be sticking with Windows tho

[@coldvaper]

Waiting for SteamOs to come to desktop, I’m ready to ditch windows.

[@diuran1919]

Whisper quiet - LOL! NO! I put my small pc but from Atomman g7 pt, behind TV, smart power plug and I can turn on/off with voice through the google or by app if I want. This small pc are very good to work behind TV or under the desk. Other device > laptop intel gen 10 6/1 cores, 64GB RAM, nvidia 260 , Bazzite OS no issue here everything works just to run games or apps I use.