YouTube's response to SSSniperwolf doxxing JacksFilms is unacceptable

Sssniperwolf doxxed Jacksfilms and KZbin did next to nothing.
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[@NerdSyncProductions]

I promise I actually just want to make videos about cartoons. This just really bothers me.

[@jeremiahbristow7609]

Sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying. We get it.

[@dodonixx953]

Understandable

[@OakCityGamers]

bothers all of us too. the small tubers with no voice

[@jasonbodine6033]

She did it to someone to whom she felt she could. If she did that to me, she would, either, be in jail, or visited by some..(ahem) friends of mine. Straight up and down it was a bit** move.

[@Plsrateeight]

​@@jasonbodine6033You should not threaten such things.

[@devvynoler322]

If KZbin really considers this a "both sides" situation I can't imagine what it would take to make them actually do something.

[@barryfraser831]

It would need to cost them money. That's all that is required. KZbin doesn't care because Sssniperwolf makes them enough money that they believe acting against her will cost them more money than doing nothing.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

@@barryfraser831 yup she has to do something to someone with f u money and have them sue her and yt

[@og_3rd_st_saint_gat]

Yeah I agree in this case jacksfilms gotta sue

[@TheManofthecross]

@@Dankestonthemic yeah make it affect the youtube staff though with that CEO they will just have police there to arrest anyone who tries and block off the neighbor hood of anyone trying to go through there that does not live there. the staff of youtube etc and there families though are fair game. you got to make it personal to them in order for them to do anything about it. and use the Schutzstaffel sniper wolf excuse or motive to really force them to do something to her.

[@Sunfire1254]

They didn’t care when she doxxed enigmahood 10 years ago they won’t care now. He had to take both her and KZbin to court in weerahandi v shelesh!

[@princesszelda2072]

I genuinely think Jacksfilms should take legal action against her. If KZbin won't handle this appropriately, maybe the legal court will do so instead.

[@winnieid2727]

Second this. If it is possible with a good chance of winning then ok, but if it is going to be a money pit, we all know who has bigger pockets (except we do go fund me or sort)

[@mannperson324]

@@timothyscott1951how though? He’s calling her out for making terrible content and being a bad person

[@princesszelda2072]

@@timothyscott1951 Mark victim blaming on your bingo cards. She doxed him! He made parody videos crediting the original creators when she always refuses to. She also has a criminal record of being arrested twice with one being for armed robbery! Also you can't post things to google because that's not how search engines work.

[@4rtie]

The problem is that she didn't commit what is overtly a crime. His house was listed as the address of his LLC, which is public. What she did is just unethical and dumb, not really illegal. There'd need to be actual action instead of the potential for action for it to be harassment.

[@SlimThrull]

-What did she do that was illegal? Showing up at someone's house (without going on to their property) is legal. Recording from public property is also legal. And, surprisingly, doxxing someone isn't generally illegal (though, it may qualify for stalking and/or harassment neither of which apply in this case). Nothing she did violated any laws as best I can tell.- While the above is generally true, California actually does have law that may apply. ""According to the California Penal Code §653.2, cyber harassment refers to posting information online about a person without that person’s consent, with the intent to place the alleged victim in fear for their safety or the safety of someone in their immediate family." So, yes, if she intended to make him fearful that would indeed be a criminal act."

[@lssjgaming1599]

Sssniperwolf: doxxes someone, steals content, hosts CP in her old omegle videos Jacksfilms: Parodies Sssniperwolf and calls her out for her content theft. Ah yes both sides in the wrong. Common KZbin L

[@Gloomdrake]

Wait, hold on, she also sexually exploited children?

[@technounionrepresentative4274]

@@Gloomdrake yeah if this is true how the hell does she still have a channel?

[@RedShadowAMV]

@@Gloomdrake Allegedly peer pressured a 16 year old into flashing on omegle. Only saw the clip instead of the full video so take it with a grain of salt

[@Geck0GC]

​@@technounionrepresentative4274 I have no idea but she had someone who she believes was 16 flash her breasts to the camera, she did censor it but that doesn't stop the fact that she had it on her computer but I don't know if it legally would count as hosting it but ethically jts horrendous. The reason I say "she believes" is because it did say it could be a simulated webcam (so a pre recorded video of someone hopefully older) but even if thats the case Sssniperwolf shouldn't have even went along after the other person said they were 16 regardless, and even then it doesn't definitely mean it wasn't a child

[@ursidae97]

I'm not sure that constitutes CP, but it definitely constitutes solicitation of a minor. You can solicit a minor who doesn't even exist and go to prison.

[@miasantiago5935]

This is absolutely disgusting that KZbin believes that she's "too famous" to be punised. Jacksfilms needs justice as well as the minors she has been awful towards in the past. The fact that her channel is still up and running is baffling to me. KZbin needs to actually get their ass up and do something about this monstrosity.

[@TECH097]

Y'know KZbin was so set on blaming Jack for stirring the pot...and yet they did WAY more to stir the pot with just TWO WORDS.

[@TheManofthecross]

yep like how they were ordered by the democrats to remove russel brand from the monitation program.

[@mannperson324]

@@timothyscott1951you’re just spamming the comments💀

[@GhostAeonWolf]

Because KZbin endorses criminals and psychopaths, bad and evil people. What they ment with that: "we dont want people to dox, or harass people, but its worse if you are telling US what to do, and don't even dare to call out criminals on OUR platform."

[@mariapaz6379]

If youtube had a problem with jacks videos, they would have said/done something with it long ago. He was posting videos for like a month. But the SSSniperWolf does something illegal and suddenly jack is at fault? That makes no sense.

[@Canoby]

@@mariapaz6379For real, Jack making videos generates content and clicks for KZbin, aka ad revenue. SSSniperwolf right now is driving a wedge between the creator community and KZbin, yet they side with the girl hurting their business. On any level, even a corpo profit-driven one, this is a stupid tack they've decided to pursue.

[@darthdoody5373]

Just a reminder that The Act Man got initially demonetized for making a JOKE about doxxing. Sniperwolf ACTUALLY doxxes someone and gets a slap on the hand. KZbin had the perfect opportunity to show people they don’t play favorites and they fumbled the ball on this.(side note, Doxxing is illegal in the state of California, both of which Sniperwolf and Jacksfilms live in.)

[@professorg2590]

Will SSSniperwolf go to prison?

[@levievil9220]

@@professorg2590if jack actually sues her I don’t know if he will or not

[@professorvader1109]

Don’t apologize, you are absolutely right. This is truly a terrifying precedent that KZbin is setting.

[@carly2033]

I wonder how extremely different the response would have been if it had *her* home and address handed out to 5 mil people.

[@Thomas-uz3zf]

Bruh jack would be in jail for life

[@creatvlioness3348]

This may be outside of your usual content, but I think it's still appropriate for the channel. I see this as a problem for anyone trying to make a living off this platform. Leah is a terrible person, yet KZbin still supports her because she brings in more cash. This tells bigger channels they can endanger smaller creators without consequence. There needs to be backlash for this.

[@TheManofthecross]

and just imagine what happens when a leftist doxes a conservative and all of that shit and something happens. youtube will be criminally lyable for this.

[@kaitlynmorgan4613]

nah fr. if lia can get away with DOXXING someone, then what will other huge corrupt content creators think? that they can get away with doing bad things as long as theyre youtubes cash cow :/

[@andreak1111]

Why create when you can just steal? Why doesn't KZbin just make an AI that steals other people's content and make it's own commentary.... we're about one step away from that.

[@jeffeppenbach]

I had heard little bits around the edges, but no real explanation. This helped put things in context.

[@VaporWaveGaming1990]

​@@RealHomeRecordingThat better be sarcasm pos

[@saturn580]

The fact that KZbin considers valid criticism of their preferred creators comparable to doxxing speaks volumes. Their official statement is even more galling when you consider that Jack would have never created his parody channel if KZbin had held Sniperwolf accountable for her blatant freebooting and habitual violation of TOS. Instead, KZbin made her a brand ambassador, promoting her on social media and inviting her to speak at creator conferences. Sniperwolf is a bad person, but this entire mess is KZbin's fault.

[@Raktus]

What makes me feel like she has no sense of protecting herself is that she claimed Jack was only five miles from where she films as well. Take all the creepy stuff you said her followers might do to Jack and apply it to all the creepy followers that wouldn't have any problem just tracking down where she is to do something awful. She may have directly doxxed Jack, but her idiocy also put herself in danger.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

yeah if she did somehow finds jack info by a single google search i doubt she was smart enough to hide her own and even if she did. wouldnt be hard to find her car which has been in multiple of her videos or something. also 4chan was crazy enough to find a flag using planes, shadows and stars. i doubt they couldnt find her using google and the info she gives out for free.

[@Gloomdrake]

I saw another KZbin comment once that said she has been fixed in the past already, which is big if true, since that would mean she knows better

[@ItsNumber84]

@@Gloomdrake Of course she knows better. It was intentional, not some "whoopsiedoodle, did I doxx you?"

[@Sunfire1254]

She did something similar to the KZbinr enigmahood 10 years ago and accused him of stuff while also doxxing him. He took her to court in weerahandi v shelesh.

[@Gloomdrake]

@@ItsNumber84 no, no, like, knows better on an emotional level, not a literal level. We all KNOW that doxxing is bad, but most of us have never experienced the horror, and therefore can never truly relate. The fact that she did this despite knowing on a personal level how traumatizing it is is a massive indictment of her character

[@Necroxion]

"doxxing by itself isn't a crime in the US" It is in a few states, the relevant one being California where this happened Also, Jack still has a solid case for harassment considering that Lia herself uploaded videos where she got stalked, and quite a few other KZbinrs have been harmed by zealous fans in the past

[@thedukeofchutney468]

Wait so California actually did something slightly based? Hell must be freezing over!

[@Whiteythereaper]

Case in fucking point the armed home invasion of Meg Turney & Gavin Free that ended with police killing the assailant in their driveway. The guy chose to do it for no other reason than jealousy, and they hadn't even gotten publicly doxxed. Jack is absolutely well within his rights to pursue a legal resolution because people have done worse for less to other public figures, and we've seen what rabid and misguided "fans" can do when they think they'll get noticed and praised by their faves, even as far back as John Lennon being murdered for "being the reason the Beatles broke up".

[@leave-a-comment-at-the-door]

@@thedukeofchutney468 what do you mean? california is generally progressive, criminalizing doxxing would very much be a progressive issue

[@Griever49]

@@darthtechnologies553 She doesn't know who you are

[@theirishviking9278]

@@darthtechnologies553 address are public knowledge Who lives in those addresses are private An online-only LLC address is the website link not any form of physical address Freedom of speech is not free rain For example the things it specifically does not protect that could pertain to this situation are as follows speech integral to illegal conduct, speech that incites imminent lawless action, speech that violates intellectual property law, true threats, false statements of fact, and commercial speech such as advertising. You Americans really need to learn about the constitution you love to reference with no knowledge of it

[@WhyAreTheyComplaining]

This is insane how the heck are they making a both sides argument jacksfilms did nothing wrong 😤

[@WhyAreTheyComplaining]

Btw love your channel been here since 2015 ✌️

[@TurbopropPuppy]

like literally the only situation you could fault jacksfilms at all is if you just took without question SSSniperwolf saying he was "harassing" her as good faith on her part and doing Zero (0) other looking into it at all which unfortunately i have seen in takes from some creators i had trusted to do better 🙄

[@Hylemxylem-ou4sp]

For KZbin, criticizing their biggest cash cow is just as bad as doxxing.

[@Hylemxylem-ou4sp]

Well, maybe not biggest. But still very profitable for them.

[@donb7519]

​@@Hylemxylem-ou4spyoutube just doesnt like commentary vids or channels so by doing them jack got on their bad side

[@iangreer2151]

Doxxing people is not okay. There should be consequences for this.

[@TheAngryIntellect-]

There is, is called laws. Posting someone's address to a group of people you have convinced this person is your enemy or bad, in hopes people go there and harm them, is called intimidation, possibly also attempted murder in the 1st degree.

[@jsc315]

Yeah. It's illegal. And with KZbin lack of any action here is troublesome and will put people in harm as they are saying this is acceptable behavior because all the lose is a week of revenue.

[@mrbanks456]

​@@TheAngryIntellect- Attempted murder? Lol, dude, she wasn't dangling his literal address infront of everyone and saying "now go fuck with this guy."

[@nwish425]

@@mrbanks456 That exact thing has in fact gotten people killed before, it opens people up to home invasions and swatting, you know, when you call the local police and make a false report to get a fully armed swat team sent to the person's address to bust down the door?

[@VHCosta]

@@mrbanks456 while that is technically true, you have to admit doxxing someone does open that door for other people

[@mothersbasement]

Excellent video, Scott. The phone camera looks great, BTW. Wouldn’t have known unless you mentioned it

[@wendyokoopa7048]

I just got a new phone and I cannot believe how great my camera is

[@jaimiecrush916]

Did not think I’d see mothers basement here

[@Wrigglevision]

A testament to how great smartphone cameras have gotten.

[@user-tf8xr8wc9u]

Does a channel promoting gambling games really have any say on moral issues?

[@QuarterCoyote]

More people need to speak out about this and put pressure on KZbin. That's the only way for things to change.

[@K.C-2049]

yeh except the only problem is that more we watch, the more we post, the more we comment, the more ads we see and consume, and the more engagement we drive the more money they make. the only thing which would really move the needle would be a MASSIVE boycott, and I do mean it would have to be like... millions of users and creators. and the creators ain't gonna do that because they still gotta get paid.

[@LittlePinkPatriotRin]

We did manage to get them to make a statement by just posting so it's not impossible. The thing is it needs to be a sustained movement against them. Most creators are giving up not that KZbin has put out a statement accepting it as the final decision, but if they just kept pressing they could do more. I doubt sniperwolf learned anything from this situation and might actually benefit from it depending on how Jacksfilms continues from here.

[@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677]

Only way to force them to do something is threatening their money. Encouraging Jacksfilms to take legal action against them and Sssniperwolf and making this more public outside the internet is the only way. Doing nothing will only increase the chances for tragedy.

[@drewo.127]

Exactly!!! As much as I’d like there to be a mass exodus of creators, or having them turn off monetization, I know that A. That’s very unlikely to happen because a lot of creators are actually living off their KZbin income! And B. Even if they did turn off monetization, KZbin would still be getting money because they put ads on everything and receive all revenue from ads on non-monetized videos! And while it may be just as dangerous to take legal action against any big creator and big company, I think that is the best option Jacksfilms has right now (once he and his family are safe!) to finally get something out of this!

[@DyslecticAttack]

Taking legal action against KZbin won't get anywhere. You'd need millions of dollars and luck to even get it into discovery. And millions more to get it to a trial, at which point you're multiple years on, Jack would have ruined his career by going against KZbin, and it'd probably be dismissed since the guidelines are vague enough that it's open for interpretation. Looking at the past handling on similar situations, as well as the severity of the implications, you'd be right that KZbin has the moral responsibility to do something more than they have. But that doesn't make it a legal responsibility, and especially not a legal responsibility so certain that a government can force KZbin to act on it. Suing KZbin will only accomplish one thing, and that's make Jack lose his career and spend tons of his money.

[@lisatroiani6119]

@@DyslecticAttack i don’t think they were talking about suing youtube, but sssniperwolf herself edit: nvm i’m dumb and didn’t read the whole original comment they talked bout suing both

[@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677]

@@lisatroiani6119 I also said to make this whole mess public outside the internet.

[@hannahleigh6152]

@DyslecticAttack He probably wouldn't even need to go all the way through with a lawsuit. Just serve the papers that would get the press talking, and that's what would bring KZbin to action.

[@Marndarrr]

THANK YOU for clarifying for the dumb kids in the back: this is NOT DRAMA. This is a dangerous criminal action against KZbin’s ToS that KZbin is defending Ssstalkerwolf for.

[@ZayniacJack]

SO glad to see you talking about this, YT is embarrassing themselves in every single way

[@MaybeAnnatar]

Even if Jack's address WAS on Google...she still searched for it on her own and then DROVE TO HIS FUCKING HOUSE TO TAKE A VIDEO OF IT FOR 5 MILLION PEOPLE TO SEE

[@Gloomdrake]

Like, I don’t know how we’re supposed to take that as anything other than an implicit threat

[@falsenames]

This actually seems like Google's fault for allowing people's addresses to be searched that easily. But let's see who this KZbin really is. /pulls off KZbin's mask to reveal it was Google!/ Zoinks! Like Google was the parent company the whole time!

[@SpinyBadger]

And advertised the ability to find this address online to millions of followers who she's been complaining to about how horrible Jacksfilms was being to her. *Maybe* you can argue plausible deniability there, but if she can't see the obvious danger of this situation, she's too stupid to be allowed out on her own.

[@glonx639]

His adress isn't even in Google. According to Jacksfilms himself.

[@transsnack]

​@@glonx639the only way she could have found it on Google is by pulling his LLC, which takes more effort than just searching it. It's also terrifying, because anyone with an LLC on youtube who didn't link it to a PO box is now at risk, doubly so because no one with any real power in the situation has actually created any consequences for this behavior.

[@thebigblox4297]

youtube needs to be sued for criminal negligence, defamation, and even potentially fraud because they profit off of a criminal by letting her leech copyrighted content from non-consenting individuals

[@Puncherjoe1]

I'm not saying you're wrong or that I disagree with you, but man, that last sentence is all kinds of literal wrong.

[@thebigblox4297]

@Puncherjoe1 maybe a little far yeah, this situation just pisses me off

[@KadeemG61]

That’s why KZbin just doesn’t care what content creators want. All KZbin wants is your money.

[@kieronchick1663]

KZbinrs Aba Preach made a video about this and got the right about it. It only matters to KZbin when the advertisers get involved, that is when KZbin take real action.

[@archerelms]

​@@kieronchick1663and when they do take action because of advertisers, they tend to be pretty ham handed and reactionary

[@sp4rk7772]

So that's why they were banning adblockers.

[@ImInAgonyLOL]

They're a corporation. That's what corporations do.

[@sigheyeroll]

I am appreciative of every voice that continues to speak out about this. The blatant favouritism is horrendous. Sssniperwolf endangered Jacksfilms safety, and has set a terrifying precedent in this space. It basically gives a greenlight that so long as you make KZbin enough money, you can do whatever you like, post whatever you want on and off platform.

[@violajames]

1. I am so impressed with your phone's camera quality. I'm so glad you have that as a backup. 2. Thank you so much for covering this. I 100% agree that sssniperwolf's channel needs to be taken down completely! Take the L, KZbin. She needs to be held accountable. 3. Your computer also broke?! The illuminati's coming for you. 😰

[@coolblue32q]

My dude... You are right! We also need to fix a flaw with the common narrative everyone is pushing. sssniperWolf is a brand, not a person. She's currently fighting over half of the sssniperWolf brand in court with her soon-to-be ex husband. Jack hasn't been harassing a person, he's been critiquing a milliondollar BRAND that has a fluffy lipped mascot😂.

[@paradoxtheruler7596]

So that makes jacks stalking okay?

[@davidalan6701]

This is the same BS I dealt with in high school, where the administration had a “zero tolerance” policy for fighting, so a few bullies beat the crap out of some poor kid just trying to get through his day, trying to do well so he could succeed in life. But he ended up suspended too, just because some bully decided to take out his issues with low self esteem on him. His perfect attendance record was broken, his academic record tarnished for being a victim who wouldn’t have fought back even if he could have. The world is messed up.

[@thekrakenexperiment280]

Thank you for talking about this. The only way we can get anything fixed is if we keep this conversation alive.

[@ScooterinAB]

The better place for this convo is right here in KZbin.

[@vanishingllama7342]

You know they messed up when YOU get involved. I wasn't expecting this video, but I'm glad you made it. KZbin needs to change. They can't treat you guys like this anymore!

[@Danbarnes0311]

The fact that you felt you had to apologize at the end of this video breaks my heart. You are standing up for what’s right and the fact that you felt like you had to apologize is so saddening. You are an amazing person and the fact that you stood up for your beliefs is inspiring

[@qrowing]

Wasn't expecting to see a video from you so soon! You're 100% correct. There can never be too many voices speaking out on this topic. Very cool, Scott

[@demi172]

you know what's even worse? the temporary monetization suspension doesn't even make her stop getting paid, it just makes it so that her NEW videos don't generate money. the ones before this are still fucking monetized and you can use yt extensions to fact check this.

[@FrosTehBurr]

They didn't even remove the monetization on her videos. Someone used a plug in to show whether or not a video is monetized and it shows her videos are still, in fact, still monetized. She literally walked away scott free!

[@mchanna06]

This is definitely the point where the drama dies down and everyone moves on. And I hate that. KZbin is expecting us all to forget about this whole ordeal, and they're probably right. Everyone is just going to forget about this and they really shouldn't. We should all keep spreading the word about reaction "content". Please don't give up on this.

[@HRaven4]

This whole situation is insane. It was not on my bingo card for the year.

[@iwasfeelingbeachy]

It really saddens me people are trying to both sides this. I recently saw a creator who admitted they didn't know jackfilms content claim that his videos toward her were harassing without watching first (they did at least say doxxing was too far). Had to hit the unsub button for that garbage take, but its a good indicator for how outside people with limited context don't release the content jack was making was a fair criticism of her content.

[@jeanshortswag]

I know the whole story and I stand by that take. May not be dictionary harassment, but it's definitely cyber bullying of sorts to dedicate a whole channel to bashing one person for a year. What sssniperwolf did was worse, but Jacksfilms definitely brought that attention on himself. They're both childish

[@winneratwin]

​@@jeanshortswagi dissagree

[@Bluethymestrategy]

I think the scariest thing in this whole thing is the fact that SniperWolf is completely getting away with it while Jack hasn't posted anything in DAYS. She gets to continue stealing content with ads and yet the guy she DOXXED has to deal with all the shit from this? He needs to file charges, there's enough proof for this to be a legitimate case.

[@sabrinamassastein]

@Emily D. Baker did a breakdown of the doxing laws in California. Worth checking out for anyone interested! There's definitely a legal route Jack/John can take, and since he's actually an adult, we're not likely going to hear from him if it is what he chooses to do.

[@kibasays]

I hope he does. That her behavior is being ignored is really disturbing to me. And it irks me to no end that if the genders were reversed, the response would be SO different. I thought we were doing better than that. So disappointing.

[@zenmomLol]

If he does, chances are that he’ll have to kiss his money and possibly everything he owns goodbye and will have to start again from scratch. Nobody wants to start from scratch after losing all their money and maybe their possessions in what they considered a dumb/awful route.

[@indigo1eye]

I'm glad to see so many creators talking about this. I truly believe the only way to make youtube do anything is to speak out and not shut up. I think they want to wait it out until the next big "drama" comes out so the pressure is moved elsewhere. This is a good way to really put the pressure on, and I really hope it makes a difference. I wish the odds of them holding Lia responsible were better though...

[@ScooterinAB]

And yet people keep protecting this company and shift the blame to everyone else. These actions need to be condemned. KZbin's response needs to be condemned. This crazy chick needs to be arrested. This company is not our friend and continues to prove it.

[@NoelleTakestheSky]

“On both sides” makes me think of Trump talking about “very fine people on both sides,” when one side was Nazis, and one of those Nazis killed a woman during a rally.

[@nadapenny8592]

"i got too angry" was my favorite chapter it's so real I hate when narratives edit out the decompression cycles

[@TheChrisHype]

Let’s look at a slight upside: Check out the comment section of her most recent video. People aren’t letting this go without hitting her with the right hand of God. It’s not so much a “will karma kick her ass”, as much as it’s “when”.

[@E.C.Animation]

This is her karma snowball that starts the avalanche.

[@randomytuser5827]

Oct 22nd vid, she disabled comments, ig she can't handle the heat of her own actions

[@akaicymalice1562]

I would never encourage anyone to become a drama channel.. but... that Nerdsync snark is to good for me to not kinda want it to happen. 😅

[@ingonyama70]

Anecdote: In 2020, my boyfriend at the time lost his YT channel, which dealt largely with cartoons and featured Scooby-Doo very heavily, due to DMCA takedowns. On the scale of responses "not editing copyright clips enough" and "LITERALLY ENDANGERING YOUR FELLOW CREATORS because you didn't like what they had to say", I just find myself equal parts outraged, bitterly amused, and just...depressed. I'm struggling with phrasing this, so i guess all im trying to say is I hope that JacksFilms is doing okay.

[@leerylapine3728]

The whole modern idea of not taking sides is gross in a lot of situations especially when one side is obviously wrong

[@averyeml]

The concept of “we don’t have to do anything because it didn’t happen on our platform” is absolutely wild. You know who did a bad thing off-platform? EDP. You know who lost his platform? EDP. And that was the right thing to do! But apparently crimes are okay once you hit a follower/view threshold and I’m dying to know what it is

[@Robyn_007]

Give it to KZbin to 'Both Sides' a doxxing, anything for their cash cow!

[@StoryWolf]

Being as one of my friends who was a streamer had someone showed up to their house and they died in a "house fire" after a Twitter dispute, I do not find that KZbin is brushing this off okay. I hope Jack and his wife will be okay. This might not be your usual content, but thank you for voicing this.

[@epocalypsefilms]

Scott, I know you’re going through some hell on the production side but this looks and sounds fantastic for a smart device shot video hacked together in a day. Speaks to your skill immensely. Well done and awesome, believe that we’re here for you. Also get them donuts.

[@Thorax420]

horrifying how youtube will outright ignore predators and harmful people on their platform : ( hope that changes, and that you enjoy your scooby donuts

[@dummy_vicc2976]

I didn't know about sssniperwolf before she doxxed jacksfilms, and my first thought was about how terrible youtube is for not taking any reasonable action against her, but then I found out shortly afterwards that she's made content where she tries to get minors flash themselves and twerk for her on omegle and I'm genuinely dumbfounded that she had a platform for this event to happen in the first place. KZbin is fucking terrible.

[@thedukeofchutney468]

Normally I think KZbin drama is stupid, and irrelevant but this is an important thing to talk about. I also find it really gross how she tries to use her gender to get out of it. Doxxing is terrible for EVERYONE regardless of sex.

[@transsnack]

It's even worse when you consider the fact that the first freebooter Jack knocked off the platform was a dude. She has no legs to stand on here.

[@shebopskie]

You said a lot of times you don't make these kinds of content, yet I feel like you did your part as a creator as well by voicing out your concerns and disappointments toward the platform and your insights in this whole situation. Thank you for even taking the time to make this video!

[@Lisa_Flowers]

Make whatever videos feel pertinent and important for you to make. It's ridiculous but unsurprising that KZbin have said what they said. They need to ban her off the platform entirely. Doxxing is THE line. I hope people pressuring them and making a stink while make that or SOMETHING actually meaningful happen. Hope you're taking care of yourself, and are doing better!

[@WallebyDamned]

I'm listening to as many of these types of videos as possible. KZbin cannot be allowed to just wait this one out, we need as many people posting about it until something is actually done

[@erikholmysti]

For using your phone as a camera, the visual looks really good. Just wanted to let you know

[@PuffPuff903]

Yeah, I wanna know which phone he has

[@josephgonzalez9342]

Right?! I would not have know this was filmed on a phone if he didn't say anything!

[@TheMinorsRap]

I still can't get over the fact that this also proves KZbin is totally fine with their biggest creator stealing content. I get the conversation is about dozing now, but it started with literal content theft, and KZbin has said nothing about that as well

[@BirthQuakeRecords]

I put this video on while taking a quick bathroom break from watching the movie "Us" for the first time - and I paused it right after the home invasion sequence. It really has contextualized Sssniperwolf's behavior in my mind in a really viscerally horrifying way.

[@WetDreamer7]

This whole thing makes me mad KZbin should be better than this

[@susundaylight8470]

Thank you for both talking about this and somehow tying a Scooby Doo product into it.

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

This is the reason why I want KZbin be bought to Court or the senate committee so that everything can be cleared out. There are so many issues other than what happened here that's needed to be discussed so that a line can not be crossed or violated.

[@vikramb183]

Did you see, apparently they didn’t even demonetize the whole channel just the last couple videos

[@bogwitchsophie]

Seeing Scott upset is like seeing that cool English or History teacher lose his temper in class one day.

[@wrenwry]

Respect for using your platform and time for this, especially when things have been rough. You’re awesome, dude!

[@zoe_bee]

Okay this video is wonderful and your perspective is really valuable and I'm genuinely really glad you're talking about it, BUT ALSO: I have pants in the same pattern as your chair, and I absolutely needed to share that.

[@droppedcombofiend2707]

Thank you for this. I had no idea what was going on. It's really sad that we live in a world where money is more important than things like safety.

[@archerelms]

Very sad but unfortunately not remotely new

[@ragnarockerbunny]

I don't love Jack's videos, they got kinda annoying TBH, but doxxing him is so out of line that any sympathy SSSniperwolf might have garnered immediately fades in light of her actual crime. KZbin's response was... Not good. This whole situation is just frustrating.

[@slimeriley]

Currently watching this whole drama unfold has seriously harmed my confidence in making videos for a platform that is completely fine with people like xQc and Snipperwolf existing. What's the point in making videos when they could quite literally freeboat my content and profit from my hardwork.

[@transsnack]

Hell, even making them off site is risky, since most of the stolen content is from other platforms. It makes me really nervous for my future, since I need to start making an easily accessible online portfolio, and I was planning on using KZbin and social media because it was free. Now... who knows? I'll probably have to pay to use a protected portfolio site, which are expensive and hard for people to passively find.

[@socipathicgaming5914]

The second KZbin said "both sides", I would sue KZbin for defamation of Character. And I know proving defamation may be so difficult that it may be thrown out on day 1 but, sometimes the principle of the action is more important than the success of the action.

[@Pierceson-up8fs]

It’s scary to me. It’s just like the Ezra Miller situation, except box office numbers at least made sure he wasn’t coming back. Successful creators should not get to work under different rules than the rest of us. KZbin is telling us they don’t care about safety but only money. It’s horrible

[@HandsomeLongshanks]

Imagine if a male creator was stalking a female creator to this degree and youtube responded exactly the same way. People would be OUTRAGED. Smdh. Our society is garbage.

[@Grizabeebles]

It's so weird to see KZbin going through the same growing pains academic journals and news media did over 100 years ago. It's twice as weird considering internet law makes taking editorial control functionally illegal.

[@OfficialMageHD]

With the content of their tweet and the timing, I find it incredibly hard to believe it was just poor timing of a scheduled tweet or someone in charge of the account not being aware of what's going on.

[@BearlyAwake13]

Agree with everything you said in the video and I'm glad you made it! While it is a little outside your usual content, this is obviously important and not just "drama". It might even be especially helpful that people who don't cover drama stuff talks about this, since their audiences (including me) are more likely to be unaware of this stuff than people who do watch drama. Also, totally get why you might not want to film outside now, but this video looks good, so filming on your phone sometimes to make it more chill might be a great idea if it'd be less stressful :3

[@aspacelex]

SS Sniper Wolf had gotten desperate because the JJJacksfilms channel was actually working, he's successfully spread awareness of her theft and how to copyright strike it, her videos now routinely drop below 8 minutes or get delisted altogether. Hopefully, even if he won't or can't continue running it anymore, this situation will continue to draw attention to what bore it.

[@Plutouthere]

KZbin needs to do better and honestly the more people that talk about it the better. *edit* anyone and I mean ANYONE who dumbs this down to "Drama" are actually harming everyone including themselves in this case.

[@gingerkingfisher]

KZbin is 100% expecting this to blow over by the end of the week. Just holding it out. Don't let them get away w/ this.

[@HKLives]

Thanks for making this video. The more people who talk about this outside of "drama" channels, the more likely it is that KZbin takes meaningful action.

[@tayzonday]

What is that microphone? I don’t think it’s in your hardware list in the description.

[@msthecommentator2863]

The only reason why we got an "apology" at all from Lia is because YT told her it'd lessen her punishment, you can't convince me otherwise.

[@Hellworthy]

You are standing up for the next generation of content creators that just want a safe place to create. How many people you think are thinking twice about even starting a channel. This is that important. Keep going

[@6ixStrngZ]

I have YT Premium and I feel weird about it right now. I've never agreed 100% w the site, but I feel like a line is being crossed.

[@K.C-2049]

I was thinking about getting Premium because I was beginning to feel guilty about using adblock/wanting my money to go to creators I spend so much time watching, but now I think I'll just keep using adblock till they lock me out again. and again. and again. and again lol

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

I too would rather be talking about a little cartoon dog now.

[@JonathanFournier]

Thanks for your take on this. I had skimmed through the trends on Twitter a bit, but really had avoided the whole situation. This vid does a great job of explaining things, and I always know I can trust you to give a thorough account of situations.

[@OakCityGamers]

sadly there was no old man with a mask at the end of this. KZbin does nothing for small tubers for years. they got heat and all I get is small tubers. YT sucks at course correction. just like there should be a physical team to deal with random demonitization, and a myriad of standards that are too numerous to say in this one comment

[@jmace2424]

It is a “both sides” issue only because on one side you have the creator and on the other you have 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰

[@MagicCyclops]

If a guy did this to a girl, they would been kicked off the platform by now

[@diegovargasdiego]

Honestly, more people speaking about this will help in the long run to get KZbin to change, or at least be clearer to its creators

[@robertt9342]

Seems like this could open KZbin up to some liability issues.

[@YoungWang]

I agree 100% with this video. I also wanted to comment that the editing and filming on your phone worked amazingly well! If it genuinely is easier or faster, maybe it'll be your new format?

[@Hyperdeath.Kisses]

Thank you for shining a light on this and raising awareness. As a previous small creator with a boyfriend is working on his own project, this has left me fearful of posting anything after I’ve been vocal about this issue. Thank you for being that voice.

[@B0tch0]

The act man's mother was called by this lunatic and KZbin did NOTHING. Wtf!

[@VocalClassics]

Inspiring unstable people to go out of their way to do violent things in their honor has been in the GOP playbook for quite some time--we saw a great example of it on January 6. Thanks for this

[@nathanlee9124]

This has no relevance to the issue being discussed. I feel like you're trying to inject politics where they don't belong.

[@BrianBuhl]

You display genuine humanity. I would watch more of this content. But I'd rather watch it on Nebula because KZbin obviously sucks.

[@leavemealone802]

KZbin shows to be a rotten company. Thank you for talking about this

[@papasalvo]

5:31 in addition to this in some areas doxing is dependent on how the information was procured. Being that widely avaible information easily searchable is not considered to be doxxing but information thats not widely avaible OR was procured by illegal means can be considered doxing.

[@jonathangibson3609]

I think one important thing is that Jack's push had started WORKING not that long before this - creators were being contacted and claiming videos, Sniperwolf was having to cut videos after the fact to remove certain TikToks (sometimes therefore making the video too short for midrolls) - he was starting to actually make ground

[@joshuasatterwhite9520]

Classic KZbin

[@DeathLax_]

I appreciate this video so much cause honestly I was thinking of becoming a CC on youtube but after watching this happened basically live defiantly not doing it makes all my time watching how to become a CC and trying to pick a niche for a channel go up in smoke because who’s knows i might piss off a larger CC and get doxed just because I hurt their feelings or something I love this video and you for making it this situation is very disturbing and eye opening

[@shsrpr]

7:56 So, basically, "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?" said King Henry II about the Archbishop of Canterbury. Which was interpreted as an order by four knights who went and murdered the meddlesome priest. A history lesson I learned earlier this week.