Netflix's FMA Movie is a Dumpster Fire. Here's Why.

[@GippyHappy]

Equivalent exchange. The anime's story was so good, something terrible had to exist to counter it. Balance.

[@danielkjellgren749]

GippyHappy this comment is one of the best things I have seen

[@jamestomato1744]

But don't worry, the bringer of balance to all things, Thanos will fix it all with a snap!

[@9CirnotheGenius9]

Underrated comment of the year.

[@Xiaolin-Loonatic]

Cases in point: Speed Racer (2008) and DragonBall: Evolution.

[@gabrielgaster3992]

*Irwin voice* Perfectly balanced as all things should be, yo.

[@hurbig]

“Hi kids, real proud of your alchemy. Bye kids, forever.” Had me dead.

[@dumpsockpuppet5619]

And so had Trisha Elrich

[@anooshzaidi2488]

@@dumpsockpuppet5619 lmfao im acc dying 😂

[@samstark2697]

lets frankenstein this bitch

[@bluesleeper8677]

*alright bro, lets frankenstein this bitch.*

[@muffin3203]

@@dumpsockpuppet5619 i shouldnt be laughing LOL

[@kandiekaine8917]

Death Note: set in Japan, everyone is asian FMA: set in Europe, everyone is white Netflix: *reverse card*

[@agent5866]

Fma is not set in Europe, it is set in a diffrent universe in country where everyone is white. (I like getting r/wooooshed BTW)

[@sterlingmuse5808]

@@agent5866 No, it's supposed to be alternate reality Europe. Even in the manga/Brotherhood storyline where it isn't explicit, there are direct parallels that you can't easily ignore. That said, not everyone was actually white. Specifically, the people in Amestris of Eastern descent like Mustang

[@SaintsBro217]

@@agent5866 FMA's world is quite literally based on interwar Germany. It's no coincidence that the government is incredibly militaristic and refers to their leader as "fuhrer".

[@randomproductions3979]

@@agent5866 it's in Germany hell, even in the movie "conqueror of shamballa" ( which is cannon ) there's even a hitler and nazi's

[@isolani8299]

@@randomproductions3979 Conqueror is not canon. It's canon to the original 2003 FMA anime, but not to the manga or Brotherhood.

[@bobishguy7166]

You know Netflix tried making a Sword Art Online live action but was turned down. Let’s just think about how close we were to the apocalypse

[@ferrin6326]

Oh god

[@Silburific]

Ehhh, SAO is such a trainwreck that making it *worse* might actually bring it back around to being good. We deserve a "so bad it's good" live action movie (besides, there's already a precedent for a "live action" SAO in Ready Player One)

[@emiofnnc]

@@Silburific yeah but you know Ready Player One is based on a book from the 90s, and it never really has the feeling of being in constant danger of course the climax needs to have it but thats all also yeah they are in a game but not trapped in it and there was isekai anime before sao that had the same setting

[@mustang4118]

Silburific 17 personally, sao was really good, just didn’t like the gun gale wasn’t as good but I still like it

[@SylentVoidkeeper]

Patai ...Ready Player One was written in 2011 And it’s very bad

[@pavs9830]

i think the biggest problem is the movie itself. Anime series aren't made to be adapted into movies. Especially such a long series. Its not possible to fit these events into a 2hr movie. If they created a movie that maybe wasn't canon to the story, or maybe was a spin off version, it would be new and would give the writers ability to create a in depth story that is made for a movie

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

Or even go the Bleach and Rurouni Kenshin route and just take one arc and make a movie out of that. Just don't try to cram the whole thing (or parts from the whole thing, like FMA) into one movie...

[@sinistrecigogne]

Ikr. FMA's universe is rich enough to make a spin-off, hell, THEY ALREADY DID THAT AT LEAST TWICE- Just don't ask lazy people to make the movie. They'll just make a rushed version of the anime with some bad cosplayers goofing around.

[@ferrin6326]

Or, they could have done the series as a live action SERIES, so they wouldn't have to cram at all...

[@kuniosaiki]

Annalise Wedewer But live action anime’s are always Inherently bad

[@nanoff815]

A trilogy that can eventually branch off to tell it's own ending could work like how FMA 2003 is better then Brotherhood, fight me

[@smolbean8919]

It kinda just looks like a bunch of cosplayers came together and made this on an iPhone (no hate on cosplayers)

[@reesesvivis]

I know! I saw a trailer for this movie and thought “oh! nice cosplaying fake trailer! they look pretty coo-“ and then i *realized.*

[@KazuhaEien]

It does look like cosplay

[@eliac]

Im ngl, I’ve seen better cosplayers than these people

[@aestheticallyaware]

It’s what I love about it. -cries-

[@yhammabeza3966]

I watch the whole anime..and when i watched this live action i got so mad..because of the storyline..its all wrong..have they watched the anime befoe making these

[@Bibimbapski]

The best part was the actor of Gluttony chasing after the soldiers with his stomach open, he looks like a cosplayer who's having a difficult time moving in his homemade costume.

[@BearWith_You]

Bibimbapski thats how the entire movie looks

[@dhgmrz17]

Flareon Dude Expect for Al, it's funny that his CGI looks more genuine than most of the costumes, its usually the other way around.

[@eliasklein2580]

That's exactly what happens in this scene

[@kawfi6598]

lmfao, it’s so poorly made I cried 😂

[@obblivionkr]

I think that’s exactly what happened.

[@starduststriker8792]

if a homunculus is a failed human transmutation, then this must be a failed movie transmutation.

[@marcoanimacoes5690]

Movieumculus?

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

An even more taboo act than human transmutation. _They created a Cinemonculus_

[@vzee5788]

Wait, how? That isn't the case in Fmab. Are you taking about Fma 03? Edit: Turns out you were

[@starduststriker8792]

@@vzee5788 what the FUCK is fmab /j

[@barryallen2240]

@@starduststriker8792 fullmetal alchemist brotherhood

[@Dazzledweeb]

Honestly this movie is just a bunch of cosplayers running around.

[@n00btype]

Like every anime/video game based live action shows.

[@carrioncrow13]

Somehow I feel like most cosplayers could do better. The costumes too. At least cosplayers put their heart into what they do.

[@Flustered_Potato]

THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT I'VE SAID TO SO MANY PEOPLE SO MANY TIMES!!!!!

[@WTFisTingispingis]

Dazzledweeb Literally my reaction to seeing footage.

[@peppaeyez5485]

Yes

[@Kat1kafka]

no armstrong 0/10

[@thespiderjokeyslayer3999]

-3/10 No armstrong, no point.

[@gamerdweebentertainment1616]

Just think for a sec, how would they make him, CGI? Hahahahahaha, God damn!

[@Colleywoodstudios]

WHAT!? *FLEXES IN DISGUST*

[@BakedPancakes17]

Apparently this movie has not been passed down for generations

[@paltrax]

Couldn't find a big enough Asian dude I guess

[@nekrouni8497]

Might I mention the fact that they turned Mustang’s fire into a tiny little beam when in the anime it is the biggest explosion of hellfire you could possibly imagine.

[@nyxvicious9836]

Can we talk about Eds dollar store Elsa wig? Ugh

[@kaorudemon5371]

Ryosuke yamada the actor of Ed dyed his hair for the role so its not a low cast wig. He had some. Extensions, because he has short hair but they fit.

[@nyxvicious9836]

Oh. I feel like a jerk now... Maybe its the extensions?

[@kaorudemon5371]

@@nyxvicious9836 maybe and the fact he wears the hair like Elsa. But I was a little bit proud of him that he dyed his hair (little ryosuke Fan)

[@nyxvicious9836]

Now that I look back at it... The colour is nice on him 😊

[@kaorudemon5371]

@@nyxvicious9836 yes 😊 it looks cute

[@sheena1521]

Death note adaptation: yeah I'm pretty much hot garbage Fma Adaptation: hold my milk.

[@mike_wasusake3492]

Ironic because Ed hates milk

[@katarinablagojevic5760]

@@mike_wasusake3492 that's why he's small

[@PeruvianPotato]

@@katarinablagojevic5760 DON'T CALL HIM SHORT

[@johnlevin4567]

Katarina Blagojević WHO YOU CALLING SMALL?

[@Felixr2]

@@PeruvianPotato P I P S Q U E A K

[@foxolocation3853]

And also WHY ISNT ED SHORT

[@aphinternet]

wHO ARE YOU CALLING SO SMALL THAT THEY DON'T EVEN MAKE A GOOD TARGET-

[@ramblingentertained]

@@aphinternet why the fuck did I read that on Ed's dub voice outloud?

[@ferrin6326]

WHO ARE YOU CALLING SO SMALL THAT HE CAN'T BE SQUISHED UNDER YOUR SHOE BECAUSE HE'S SMALLER THAN THE SPACE BETWEEN ATOMS!?!!!!

[@phxsqhenes]

WHO ARE YOU CALLING SO SMALL THAT YOU CAN’T DISTINGUISH THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM AND A GRAIN OF SAND?!?!?!?!?!

[@KnifeKnerdJesus]

WHO ARE YOU CALLING SO SMALL THAT THE ROOM TEMPERATURE IN ANTARTICA’S NUMBER IS BIGGER THAN THEIR HEIGHT?!

[@bellagarcia3876]

"Those terrible wigs they put on those child actors. Those terrible child actors they put in those wigs." XD

[@rjd1922]

I think their hair's actually bleached.

[@mennograafmans1595]

They should've used blonde actors. It's far more convincing.

[@superbleach8065]

menno graafmans Japanese people cant be blonde, the movie should have been set in the uk it would have been way better

[@mennograafmans1595]

Super Bleach That's what I mean. The setting is pre WW1 German/Prussian. They should be using (at least a few) German actors.

[@justafranz]

Netflix: *touches anything anime* It: explodes

[@ulriktnnesen5987]

Darkness blacker than black and darker than dark, I beseech thee, combine with my deep crimson. The time of awakening cometh. Justice, fallen upon the infallible boundary, appear now as an intangible distortions! I desire for my torrent of power a destructive force: a destructive force without equal! Return all creation to cinders, and come frome the abyss! EEXPRUOOOOSIOON!!!!

[@dapperboi9905]

Bakuretsu Bakuretsu ra ra ra Bakuretsu Bakuretsu ra ra ra Bakuretsu Bakuretsu ra ra ra

[@zawarudo3582]

Killer queen has already touched that anime

[@ionicman2908]

@@zawarudo3582 i know someone would do this sooner or later Thanks for doing it

[@deviousnefariousvillainous2370]

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[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

If one wishes to obtain something, something of equal value must be given. This is the Law of Equivalent Exchange, the basis of all alchemy. There is a taboo among alchemists! Human Transmutation is strictly forbidden, for what could equal the value of a human life? Apparently, about 2 hours and 15 minutes.

[@kunalpatel7574]

man you here again well you made my day XD

[@electricboxers9043]

Oh, its you again. Im not sure why I keep running into you.

[@themilkman5004]

The bigger question is what is equivalent to a good live action Fullmetal Alchemist movie

[@chrumagbakal7024]

Electric Boxers you have the same tastes?

[@Fun4luve]

john chung all of humanity cause that shit is impossible

[@Hope-gf6lr]

the music that plays when Gluttony shows up has me CRYING

[@deadgirlwalking3746]

THE TROMBONE HAD ME DEAD

[@ocean8336]

LMAO SAME

[@javajeff714]

I almost lost my shit with that music.

[@parkchimmin7913]

Fits in well with the clip. I mean, look at how he walks!

[@szymonsokolinski9907]

It was so sad...

[@ArmstrongMixture]

"This movie has all the appearance of FMA but none of its heart" JUST LIKE A HOMUNCULUS AMIRITE

[@NitroIndigo]

By the way, I found it mildly interesting how at the start of the live-action movie, Ed mentions homunculi in relation to human transmutation. I have a soft spot for FMA03.

[@Thalanox]

"Just like a homonculous" That's... actually a really good analogy.

[@coolgreenbug7551]

Thalanox: An artificial creation that believes it is superior to the original?

[@heliosspecialistarrogant7031]

Well whit the parallel universe stuff they put in the first version it can be one of they plot explanation that can save the thing and made a mega cross over whit the anime version that the actors that actually is a German.

[@Thalanox]

CoolGreen Bug: A horrifying monstrosity created to mimic only the surface features of something great. Something entirely disconnected from what made the original something worthy of attention and respect. kingchup: I can barely guess at what you're trying to write. I think you're wrong. In the animated anime/movie, the alternate universe was an explanation for where the energy for transmutation came from. *Spoilers* The organized mass use of alchemy took the energy of human lives. In the parallel universe, this was paid for with the mass deaths in the World Wars. The point is that the parallel universe was tied to the original one in a way that made sense.

[@Nosebluds]

To add to the awful direction and plot - Arakawa herself said that if FMA was ever made live action, since Amestris is an adaptation on western culture, most of the characters should have a European cast (with the exception of the characters from Xing and maybe Mustang since there's theory that he has Xingese ancestry)

[@brya9681]

They still made a better movie than she ever made a manga or anime.

[@thepinapple8829]

@@brya9681 The entirety of this comment section would like to say otherwise

[@kujo4388]

If these actors were white this movie still would be bad… did you not watch the video? Casting was probably the smallest issue with this disaster

[@mr.mcnuggies]

@@brya9681 no way you said that unironically

[@rattersworld1016]

Yeah, I suspected it was western-based.

[@mekirla3153]

You forgot to mention how stupid Winry turned out. SHE HAS A SCENE WHERE SHE JUST SMILES AT A PIE???

[@nathanielmoore4989]

She isn't even blonde

[@giselledsouza4073]

@@nathanielmoore4989 ikr they spent all that time putting blonde wigs on everyone else but not her so it seemed like such a weird a choice to me

[@katarinablagojevic5760]

THEY DID MY GIRL LIKE THAT?

[@Rebelheart1985]

Or the fact that they didn't even bother to give Winry blond hair and blue eyes

[@Turoksar]

I would smile at a pie

[@sliverbullet7973]

They should’ve hired markiplier as Hughes. 2021 edit: I still stand by my decision

[@joelyolo1032]

thats real good

[@cac_deadlyrang]

They should of also used Ulrich Noethen for Tucker.

[@gabrielgaster3992]

If it wasnt a dubbed movie, that would make sense.

[@jamestomato1744]

yea, I can actually see that now...

[@SuperZ04]

I will pay good money to see that

[@mickc.290]

Death Note: No one can make a worst Anime Movie FMA: Sorry you said something?

[@stargaryen9629]

I have this one a shot because it was Japanese cast like the orginal live action deathnote movies. I was sadly disappointed and cut it off in 10 mins

[@NIN10DOXD]

Xx Knightmarexx Yeah, but in this case it’s a fictional tale on Germany so this is the one time in Anime where a Japanese cast is actually kinda weird.

[@smharyanto4660]

@@NIN10DOXD The cast not really important, as long the story and the plot good, which sadly this movie didnt have that

[@qtaro-7097]

as hollywood is bad there are some movies that needed to be handled by it.

[@BonazaiGirl]

DBZ: hold my beer

[@nuggetwings5932]

Yeah I watched one minute of this movie and I couldn't do it Why?? Because Alphonse should've been voiced by a child because THATS WHEN HE DIED. AS A CHILD.

[@kieran2050]

I mean it was Al's originally VA, but i see your point

[@luffyace5162]

And for me I couldn’t watch is mainly I hate most liveshows that is trying to do it but most of it failed badly

[@mgmt97]

FMA is one of the ONLY series that could be ‘whitewashed’ for an accurate live action adaptation and have a great cast, amazing effects and a good story if done by American studios.. but it’s the one moment they decided not to *facepalms*

[@NeedyForMusic]

It's a completely Japanese production, what do you expect?

[@RoachMcToast]

Do you understand what whitewashing is? Because I don’t think you do. Jesus gets whitewashed. Depicted as some white dude, but he was a jew(an Arab). White washing is when you take someone who isn’t white, and make them white. No, they Asian-washed this movie.

[@liamwarren3086]

They did the same thing with the German and Turkish characters in Attack on Titan. Part of Mikasa’s intrigue is the fact that she’s half Asian and it’s REALLY rare, but not in the live action, where they’re all Japanese.

[@Catamount1412]

Like with AoT, this is especially indefensible precisely because these people are very strongly implied to be not-Asian. In FMA it's never explicitly stated where they are in comparison to the "real world"; it's just stated that the two worlds are the same place historically diverged at the point when Alchemy became a dominant force in one of them, but given that both Ed and Al live in Europe when Ed goes through the portal, it's reasonably to assume that that's also where they reside, give or take, in their own world. In FMAB, it's made very clear that they're not Asian because they're an Asian country involved and that's a major plotpoint. In fact the differences in people and culture get highlighted when Ling literally puts on a stereotypical Asian routine at one point to get out of getting in trouble.

[@verynormalvic]

RIGHT i mean usually im all for an all japanese/asian cast but the only person in the main cast that actually looks asian in the animes is roy. (and people from xing like ling and mei.) amestris is based off of england and it's pretty obvious to me at least that the majority of the characters are supposed to look somewhat white. like for fucks sake hughes literally couldn't look MORE like markiplier in brotherhood

[@thehopeofeden597]

I feel so awful for anyone who decides to introduce themselves to the franchise through this movie. No matter which series you decided to start with, Brotherhood or 2003 (which are both amazing), I think everyone can agree it's a terrible idea.

[@tdfern1]

Awsamazing Eden do you read the FMA manga.

[@ranzlaiv]

EEWW, FMA is bad. Brotherhood is the best

[@thehopeofeden597]

King_____Crimson at this point I've given up fighting. If they can't see that FMA is a great anime after 15 years nothing will convince them.

[@thehopeofeden597]

Thomas Fernandez Yes

[@klg9549]

Awsamazing Eden I wish more people would read the manga first.

[@deviljoe1750]

Gluttony, my boy, what have they done to you? And everyone else too.

[@jugin3758]

like a midlife crisis

[@nanoff815]

Thank god Greed was spared.

[@Mattwreys]

NANO Ff aGREED! I don’t want to see my favorite FMA character turn into something like this!

[@boopboop9313]

Not only did the mess up Gluttony they COMPLETELY cut out everything that happened in Dublith like, getting introduced to teacher, learning she opened the portal, THEY EVEN CUT OUT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPEND TO MY BOIS GREED AND LING MY TWO FAVORITE CHARACTERS

[@kaisershocker]

Netflix: *Makes an FMA movie, excludes Scar*

[@clenchfarthead8047]

Doubt they would even cast an actor of his skin tone

[@kenshix7902]

@@clenchfarthead8047 True 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@schris3]

It was planned that he would be at the sequel.

[@AlexThePyroshark]

@@schris3 That's a whole new level of bad story planning.

[@justaguywithnohair1104]

Wait i haven't seen the movie but how could they remove scar

[@benyverezub5217]

I gave up 10 minutes in when Ed just skips the whole “equivalent exchange” by just fixing his sleeve

[@javi5072]

THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I FELT WHEN I SAW THAT SEEN

[@suziesea1027]

Eh, I had to actually recall when in the manga he purchased red fabric and recreated his cloak/coat, all he had to do was thin the overall substance itself. also fun fact, people(greeling) wondered just why the fudge he wore red in the first place, and Ed responds that it gets him riled up to fight, much like a bull-except bulls hate the movement not the color so i'll just stop typing now-

[@stargaryen9629]

Same

[@justinjohnson6175]

@@suziesea1027 True, he could have done that like he does with Al's armor. Yeah it stated why he wore red when he remade his coat

[@miloradowicz]

It seems in the FMA universe entropy isn't a thing. Al fixed a broken radio in Liore, and Ed repaired a radiostation when they returned to East City in the anime.

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

Edward's costume and especially his horrendous wig look worse than most cosplayers out there.

[@ec7849]

CidGuerreiro1234 He actually dyed his hair blonde.

[@rjd1922]

Pretty sure he used a ponytail extension though.

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

If that's his actual hair then it's all the more shocking how awful and unnatural it looks.

[@suziesea1027]

@@CidGuerreiro1234 - the actor himself really gets into his characters, and because of that he dyed his hair n.. yes, an extension. Which, looks very greasy and fake. Dunno how tf they did that but they did

[@zahar027]

Thank God King Bradley didn't show up. He doesn't deserve this trash

[@Phapchamp]

He is most badass char in the anime wtf are you smoking

[@shroom3408]

@@Phapchamp exactly, I'd hate to see my favorite character turned to a pile of trash

[@Phapchamp]

@@shroom3408 Oh Sorry its my weak english he is right

[@TheBoundFenrir]

On first glance I read that is "I want to thank the God King Bradley that he didn't show up" and it took me a long second before I realized that was probably not what you meant lol

[@mikaylachan9957]

I'd reather him than tucker TBH

[@onyxtay7246]

I loved watching this movie. My sister and I laughed almost the whole way through because of how rushed and half-baked everything was. It's like watching a trainwreck in slow motion.

[@ladyangel1869]

Avarickan Literally the same It’s entertaining up till some point My sis and I were half trough Brotherhood when we decided seeing the movie And we had actually watched it before knowing what FMA was and still laughed at it Well, the point is, when we watched it again we were only making jokes and laughing at how pathetically done it is compared to the anime

[@rattersworld1016]

YES

[@Mo-fx2ud]

Equivalent exchange, what’s that? I’m just gonna fix my coat using only thin air

[@benjaminlee985]

Isn't he just putting the broken threads back together? He shouldn't need to create any new material so long as the fabric isn't actually torn off of the coat.

[@christianpathfinder6864]

@@benjaminlee985 it was torn off so there wasn't enough to actually make it whole

[@mardus3960]

He's like "so im gonna just take some air to fix my coat gimme a sec"

[@oisinkelly8407]

Maybe the coat thins out alot.

[@spitefulloner]

@@oisinkelly8407 That's what I figured, like with Al's armor in the show, but a throwaway line of dialogue while he's transmuting stating that's what he is doing wouldn't be amiss. In the show they explicitly stated that's where the seemingly new material came from, and it even became a plot point as Al became more brittle. This movie IMO did too many "I guess they did this" things, making viewers assume rather than showing it.

[@nbr6116]

"Alright, Bro. Let's Frankenstein that B!tch" Might just be my favourite Line on this whole Channel!

[@haveverygreatday]

No Wrath No Greed No Kimblee No Armstrong *No Scar* No Father No Dante No Sloth No Olivier No Chimeras (other than Ninadog) The characters who are in the movie are represented terribly Envy's dead in like 3 rounds of fire Lust is boring Al sounds like a grown man Gluttony. Just Gluttony Shou Tucker is basically the dog pulling the plot sleigh All in all. Just why.

[@andreiiiksavvv6054]

Which sloth? Escaped patient from arkham asylum sloth or 2003 sloth?

[@sweetiehoney9971]

Plus, no Elicia chan...

[@jamestomato1744]

Indeed. Like, Envy was extremely hard to kill. Considering he could turn into a giant green dog with all kinds of souls on it's back.

[@blueno6921]

James Tomato dog 😂😂

[@maarzzbaarzz]

To be fair, Al sounds like a grown man bc they used his original voice actor from the 2003 anime. (In the dub, at least. Didn't watch the subbed version so idk about that)

[@webbe8292]

Only thing I actually like in this live action is Alphonse. He at least looks like Al.

[@ladyangel1869]

Vilppunen The Finnish Otaku I have to agree And Riza, I think in appearance she is one of the characters that looks more alike to her anime version (cuz her hair at least looks more natural :v)

[@hollundergiersch8691]

I have to disagree... Al is way to small...

[@eboy417thethird9]

Ed’s just way to tall

[@hollundergiersch8691]

True... but Al is in the manga towering above everyone... here he's just big😑

[@jacquelinegejddkfk4469]

Well, i think Mae Hughes' Cast ist actually good. But (besides Al) every thing else is terrible

[@TheWoostergirl]

Ed looks like a cosplayer straight outta some Con. Hell, they ALL look like cosplayers. EDIT: And Nina looks like friggin Scooby Doo, what the hell?!

[@DarthJoshReturns]

Red... Rard. Re-he-he-he-he!

[@jovaniromo8481]

TheWoostergirl I've seen better cosplay than these costume designs.

[@AegixDrakan]

Now you have me picturing Doggy Nina speaking like scooby do. Good job. XD

[@blueeyedstray6238]

When I read about the entire squad from Xing, Scar and the entire war in Ishval missing, I was already not too convinced of the movie. When I actually took the time to watch it, I just couldn't finish it and stopped watching halfway into the movie because it was so bad. Just another FMA lookalike with no soul, actual story or characters. AND WHY WAS EVERYONE GIVEN A WIG AND COSTUMES TO LOOK LIKE THE ORIGINALS BUT WINRY WASN'T BLONDE?? They honestly should have cast some cosplayers, they would have looked more professional than this

[@jordanlavergne7041]

Plus the characters were lip synching the whole time

[@ferrin6326]

@@jordanlavergne7041 wait what

[@ferrin6326]

I did the same thing, the cringe from this movie came in a wave out of the TV and washed me out of the room

[@jordanlavergne7041]

@@ferrin6326 the voices sound like they ate being played over the actors talking

[@MetaWarlord135]

I mean, had they been included, this film would've been even more of a crammed mess than it already is.

[@NOGINT]

"this version is incapable of making anyone sad because it's so rushed and poorly handled" ...I think that makes it *VERY* capable of making people sad xD

[@patrickbidwell6799]

Not trying to get into racial stuff, I know that anime is an eastern thing. However, Ed and most of the characters are from a European equivalent background. Scar should be from a middle-eastern background, and those from Shing should be Asian. If we call out eastern movies for white-washing roles, then we should probably do so for filling every role with Asian people in anime films.

[@christophersalinas2722]

Lmao in death note they used a bunch of white people when it’s set in Japan, but here when it’s in Europe they use a bunch of Asian people.

[@kazuhirokawamoto7213]

in the 2006 live-action death note ( the good one trust its a hell lot better than whatever the the Netflix version was) the movie they actually had American actors to play the American chracters from the anime/manga

[@ExtremeMadnessX]

Full Metal Alchemist, Attack on Titan, Violet Evergarden are DieselPunk fantasies inspired by European cultures, folklore and myths, so yes most of characters are white. Basically totally opposite of Avatar The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra, American animated shows inspired by Asian cultures, folklore and myths where every character is Asian or Inuk.

[@rattersworld1016]

@@kazuhirokawamoto7213 Wow, that's good

[@WristFreeze97]

Hughes looks exactly like he does in the manga

[@59lours3]

Hughes is just markiplier.

[@saltywitch3699]

@@59lours3 I think it's the other way around bro

[@59lours3]

Yeah you're right actually now that I think about it.

[@saltywitch3699]

@@59lours3 lol 😂😂😂

[@MrRys]

I knew I've seen markiplier somewhere before I found him on YT

[@drakeford3238]

I'll be honest, FMA was so perfectly designed as a long running series that I don't know if it is even possible to properly adapt it without either massively changing the plot itself or making a ludicrous amount of films. A TV miniseries with a run time similar to BBC's Sherlock? Sure. A movie/movies? I really doubt it.

[@farikalines1169]

A series of movies like harry potter films could work. It would be a very expensive venture and will have to be done by a big studio in Hollywood.

[@mcburn_]

A movie by itself wouldn't be able to fit much of a series of episodes, let alone on arc so there'd have to be parts to them. Then again, hollywood's already botched plenty of adaptations so I doubt it'd work out regardless.

[@Jestrath]

Its too big and deep of a story to summarize in a quick 2 hour movie. It was made as an anime for a reason. It had the length that it did for a reason. It needed the right medium and the right amount of time to tell its story. The case is the same across so many other great animes. People try to adapt them and realize that its shit because of this.

[@zbigniewczekanski4536]

Same goes for Game of Thrones books. I've read that many ppl aproached the author to make a movie not a TV series. Imagine that little monster...

[@Arvanyev]

> A TV miniseries with a run time similar to BBC's Sherlock? I'd honestly love that... Also if they could fix the horrendous CGI that would be good.

[@flightoftheicarus]

Film-Making: The Science of understanding, deconstructing, and reconstructing emotion. However, it is not and all-powerful art; it is impossible to create quality from trash. If one wishes to attain something, something of equal value must be given. This is the law of equivalent exchange, the basis of all film-making. In accordance with this law, there is a taboo among film-makers: anime adaptations are strictly forbidden - for what could equal the value of an anime's soul?

[@ElCampeador99]

The simple way to bypass equivalent exchange is the Director's Stone of course!

[@lilyme3]

Best. Comment. EVER!!!!! XD

[@redkingrauri3769]

Jack Jackson The cost of the Directors Stone is too high. It's like, this whole movie's budget.

[@Rafael-rn6hn]

A Director's Stone is made by sacrificing anime souls?

[@TheLunahaven]

“Hi kids, love your alchemy!! Bye kids! Forever! Okay let’s frankenstein this b-” Best way I’ve ever heard a movie moment described ever.

[@LittleRedTeaCake]

I was so disappointed by the lack of “the clap” sound. Its so iconic but it wasnt there.

[@mike_wasusake3492]

Same everytime i was like here comes the clap but then it wasnt there and I was like oh wow

[@midnightwolfwarrior]

Time out. They edited what out? Seriously? Even the shitty non-Brotherhood anime managed that part. Come ON, Netflix.

[@MidTierVillain]

Cosplay The Movie..

[@smexyanimebabe]

Above Beyond bruh, i’ve seen cosplay ten times better than this movie

[@MidTierVillain]

smexyanimebabe lol, I have to agree.. this movie was terrible, and I hate that I even watched it on Netflix; I had to rewatch FMA Brotherhood all over again to wash the bad taste away.

[@erinrose1384]

Mate thats every anime live adaption

[@Shadow-iv9ft]

I guess we have to wait longer for any good live adaptation to come through, since most real anime/manga fans are either still in some form of schooling or not high up enough to be able to make a good movie happen. It was the same with comic book film adaptations and we finally have those in existence...

[@igodreamer7096]

Very accurate! hahahhahahahahahahahahaahh

[@_cjessop19_70]

And then there's the ATLA fans laughing from a distance yelling "You think that adaptation is bad enough? look at what we had to endure"

[@nisharamesh472]

i cringed halfway through that movie

[@Whatever94-i4u]

And they don't want to let us be... What else do we have to endure??? (Netflix live-action adaptation of ATLA)

[@AGblueMetal]

dragon ball evolution is there too

[@benl2140]

@@nisharamesh472 I am genuinely impressed that you made it halfway through that movie without cringing.

[@Tina_Bo_Binaaa]

The sufferation if you’re a fan of both, and death note, and ghost in the shell....

[@vikas_yaadav_]

FMA brotherhood and death note are amazing Netflix: let's ruin it

[@HeartzHugzKissez]

How dare the writers cut out some of the most memorable characters in the series like Ed and Al's teacher, Scar, Fuhrer Bradley, Kimblee and Greed!

[@riadshaaban7809]

Not to mention the most important character of all, Major Armstrong.

[@AnnaDruvez]

Greed.... I was really looking forward to Greed..... /pout/ Now, I'm scared that they'll do a sequel, toss him in, and ruin it.

[@TheMetastasia]

If no Armstrong is in this Movie I wont watch it....

[@wisewolftony]

Conrad Kujur Well to be honest its basically impossible to adapt 60+ ep or 20+ Vol of manga into like a 150 min movie. Not saying they couldn't have done a much better job. But still you can't have all the characters from the series in this movie and expect them to get any sort of major time on screen or character development. Plus I'm sure budget prevented them from doing such things as Envy's true form and things like that. Even with all its faults it still did some things well such as the Tucker storyline pretty much being exactly what it was in the manga. Other then the fact of him coming back in the end. Due to their being no Scar to kill him.

[@JDNGAMER]

Alfa M'ale don’t you mean general Armstrong. Clearly the better character.

[@axelmartinez3540]

The main problem with this movie is that the creators only understand FMA on a fundamental scale.

[@ferrin6326]

Cosplayers, of course, are the big fans, and would put lots of attention into detail. Maybe they should have hung out on each set for a while before filming.

[@franciscoluna4847]

I just found something that's really disgusting about this movie. THERE. ARE. NO. SHORT. JOKES.

[@franciscoluna4847]

Compate 1 joke vs yncontable jokes. The difference is clear Also for that joke, Ed didn't rage at all

[@espoppelaars]

There were at least three

[@ronaldomendoza7578]

Randonio :v Eds reactions are truly beautiful whenever someone calls him short

[@usedtobemyself]

There are...okay, maybe one.

[@Dracossaint]

Blasephmy

[@sohamgupta9119]

“The terrible wigs they put on the child actors. The terrible child actors they put in the wigs.”

[@thehopeofeden597]

I've been waiting. TEAR IT APART!

[@tdfern1]

Awsamazing Eden Yep it was just waiting to happen....

[@skkms910]

Lmao! I soooo wanted him to nit pick the shit out of this movie. It would've been so funny.

[@MarvelousPhilly]

Goddamn right!

[@cytorakk6378]

Awsamazing Eden the music in the begging is apotos day

[@HeilRay]

Worse, Dissect it via alchemy put it back together as a Chimera.

[@harnarius]

I was watching this movie and trying to figure out why I wasn’t liking it but then..... I realized armstrong wasn’t there. the biggest mistake they made bar none

[@walterHonwana]

aksiznerfgun neither is scar, like, wtf?

[@westrim]

It's Japan. They have some difficulty rustling up gigantic nonfat human beings.

[@Fedorchik1536]

On other hand, it's Japan. They totally could get someone like Rock or Batista naked and screaming about "being passed in the Armstrong family" in horrendously fake japanese

[@westrim]

Either of them would probably have cost more to get than the films entire budget.

[@gayandawkward653]

What!! They didn't add Armstrong? He's pretty much the only comic relief except for Al at one point or another! Wow, the movie is worse than I thought....

[@DarthJoshReturns]

How I would have done the movie: -Start with the Cornello Arc. -Continue with the Tucker Arc. -During the Tucker Arc, have Ed and Al tell the story about what happened to them to Nina as a flashback. -Throughout the movie, have Scar make appearances killing State Alchemists. -End it with the first battle with Scar.

[@ferhog7705]

I can understand Nina's story perhaps resulting in a flashback for Ed and Al, but I can't imagine Ed and Al telling a 4 year old their story of how they used the forbidden arts to try and ressurect their dead mother only to create an eldrich abomination that resulted in Ed losing his leg and sacrificing his arm by using the blood pouring out of the stump where his leg used to be to transfer his disintegrated little brother's soul into a suit of armour that can no longer feel anything.

[@Fedorchik1536]

nah, she's gonna die anyway.

[@ferhog7705]

So rather than fit iconic moments from an iconic series into a movie so fans could see those moments through a new medium and a wider audiance could get introduced to those moments and the series as a whole through that new medium, you'd rather try and fit in a movie that's devisive amongst even the fans of the original series and is quite possibly the thing that strayed the farthest from the author's work out of everything in the franchise? Seems legit.

[@PhilipWester]

Ferhog: Ed and Al could have told Nina a heavily redacted version of their life story, but what the audience got to see would be the true story. Happens all the time in media.

[@aisutenshi3092]

tbh, that would've been a vast improvement. also, an idea of mine was to have the Tucker thing more akin to the '03 version as, i feel, that one was more emotional. but the last fight being the one with Scar and having the boys heading home for repairs and Scar still out to kill them, among others, would've been a great set up for a second film

[@rigormortiz9114]

"Look how they massacred my boy."

[@3850simone]

At least.. Alphonse armor is cool

[@_ikako_]

the cg looks like it came out of a ps3 pre-rendered cutscene.

[@ReeshsPieces7646]

Can we all agree that the actor for Hughes looked the most accurate?

[@Shiro-ii6nw]

I also think Lust and Envy fit the cast well

[@MRAakaCR]

NO, we CANNOT. The most accurate was Alexander. ps Hughes takes 2nd place. pps I actually thought the casting was really good in this (NOT the acting, just the casting). Nothing straight out of the manga/anime, but the appearances did somehow have the feel of the character they were supposed to depict. Except Envy. I have no idea how they could take an absolute extract of adorable androgyny that is Kanata and make him uglier, bulkier and more masculine. just WHY, that goes against everything that is Envy...

[@smiley4995]

Personally the only other person I could imagine as Hugh would be Markiplier

[@mamontain]

Aren't they all supposed to be ... european?

[@lelouchvibritannia9542]

Yup.

[@sirrliv]

For a minute there, I swore that was Markiplier playing Hughes.

[@sayuyuyuyu]

He kinda looked like Joji

[@ShadowWolfRising]

..........Can we make that happen?

[@flammingfkangaroo]

A youtube sponsored FMA brotherhood remake? Yes.

[@Kingdom850]

Honestly, that could work. Hughes was the comic relief before he died (excluding the "Ed is short" jokes of course), and we know Mark is basically a comedian.

[@Readera]

My partner and I thought that too.

[@lereloleloshakirashakira7710]

Al's voice like, his voice was so cute and something I really treasured from the anime so that voice disappointed me from the start. He sounded like a fuckin 20 year old man

[@gamer832xbox3]

I know right it didn't make sense to get the voice of Al from brotherhood.

[@theoriginalgummy]

As a bit of information, Netflix didn't produce the movie. They distribute it but it's by a japanese production. Most japanese anime adaptations are awful, it's not a new thing. Tho we should not panic cause good things can always come out.Edge of Tomorrow was an american movie adapting a japanese manga, and the JoJo Part IV japanese live action was pretty weird even tho I can still not say if good, awful or bizarre.

[@tdfern1]

Gummy JoJo is freaking weird. I have watched Day of Tomorrow based on All You Need is Kill.

[@eddy9524]

Gummy yes BIG bit of information

[@dechefmane3526]

Gummy Day of Tommorow was based on a novel(which the manga was based on)

[@kingzor100]

Eric Escibedi its edge of tomorrow

[@brucebanana4486]

Thomas Fernandez the movie is called edge of tomorrow. The reason the film is good because the director understands how the film media works and how to adapt to a western audience.

[@SquigglyTheAsianPotato]

This movie has the exact same issue as the live action avatar movie, they tried to put waaay to much into 1 single movie

[@kitkat7074]

The Last Airbender had a lot more issues than just that

[@reeper147]

Further, this isnt a magic system that can look good in live action

[@VivioSaf]

To be real ... the "magic system" is the minor of the problems in both situations.

[@vgamer4993]

But hey, give this movie credit. At least there's no Shyamalan.

[@edenromanov]

Also the whole changing of the characters ethnicities

[@fromhigherthings5168]

Yeah but Brotherhood's Nina segment still made you feel even as short as it is. You get some good understanding of how much they care after one episode and that's why you care when she gets turned into a chimaera and then when she dies. This applies for everything in the show.That's why it matters. That's why you are so sad. That's why the show is so freaking good. Because you care.

[@sarahtaylor4264]

I watched FMA Brotherhood. Nina's death was borderline traumatic. I thought Nina was a lovable, but fairly standard, child character. The main emotional weight of the arc for me came from the terrible injustice done to someone so good and so innocent. She had a long life and a bright future ahead of her. Her father, the man who should have worked the hardest to protect her took everything, including her humanity, for the sake of his job. Then we find out he did this to his own wife some time earlier. How twisted can one person become? I wanted her to somehow come out of this situation okay. Like maybe the Elrich brothers would find her and undo the transformation. Then Scar found her, the man I thought would be the least moved at this point in the series. His reaction, so similar to mine, humanized him and made the injustice even more apparent. And then he killed her in a shockingly brutal way that left me angry, shocked and shaking afterwards. This scene had deep thematic implications for the series, Ed's character development and the complexity of alchemy as a force for both good and evil. Plus, Ed's reaction to the bloodspot and continuing struggle to cope with Nina's death made the whole thing even more even more tragic. For me the emotional pull for her death came more from its circumstances than from her actual character. The show didn't need more than one episode to pull this off. Establishing character was more important to Hues' death. He is an adult and we already knew he had done very ethically questionable things in the past. For his death to mean anything the audience had to be rooting for him because they genuinely cared for him as an individual. The series depicted this Hues as a young man who did what he thought he had to do as a soldier supporting his country, even if he found the war distasteful and his side's behavior wrong. He was a bit sympathetic to begin with. The series also made the current Hues a man who loves his family more than anything else. He could not fight back against Greed, knowing his true identity, because he could never hurt his wife, even an imitation of her, to save himself. He is also smart, funny, looks out for his friends and is willing to take risks to find the truth and do the right thing. This does not erase his past, but it makes him likable and shows us he is now a better man. His family and friends' suffering afterwards was also painful to watch. The sadness for me mainly came from how much I loved him as a character.

[@fromhigherthings5168]

@@sarahtaylor4264 exactly what I think! The whole point of that ark is to establish how thin the line is and yet I think it was less the event and more how Ed reacted to it. That's where all the pain is. Her death was unfair and just the clip where you see Ed's eyes widen when she says "Big brother Ed" is enough to show how much it hurts him. Not only that he and Al carry that pain and that pain is important to many other arks like the whole thing with Greed and his gang, and Al protecting Hawkeye. Her death makes them realize how weak they are which is a major part of the story. We don't need to feel everything that the characters feel because their reactions are what give each event meaning. It may not have needed more than one episode, but sometimes it only takes one episode to change everything. We know that because of Hughes, because of the Greed gang, and because of this. One episode is all it can take. Also saying it was Envy who killed Hughes. Not trying to be nitpicky here just trying to keep the facts straight.

[@princessthyemis]

NAILED! IT!

[@sarahtaylor4264]

@@fromhigherthings5168 You are right. I was thinking about Greed's death and got the names mixed up. I planned to write about it, but then decided Nina and Hughes were enough to make my point here. Anyway, it is nice to know the Big Brother Ed moment did not only scar me for life. Like the Elrichs, that was the gut-wrenching moment I realized what happened too. I like that they gave us subtle hints up to that moment and then in just three words revealed everything. They could have gone with an over-the-top/super dramatic reveal. However, I think the more understated approach was a great contrast to the horribleness of the situation and gave us enough time to fully process it without being distracted. They did not try to soften the blow beforehand or ease the pain afterward. Brilliant writing. Now I am curious to know what you think of Greed. How did you respond to his death?

[@obamayomama8291]

The fact that Ed wasn't short just ruins it

[@schris3]

Of course, there's ton of short people in Japan, but they had to go for a kinda tall model who doesn't know how to act, it reminds me to Mexican telenovelas.

[@icravedeath.1200]

And they completely ignored Bradley, ling, greed, hohenheim, Olivier and Alex Armstrong, and the fact that they just annihilated scar.

[@WimpyKelv12]

Ed’s live action actor Ryosuke Yamada is 5’4”…

[@rattersworld1016]

Yes that is my favorite part of the manga (JK, but almost)

[@BiBiren]

You know what I noticed in some live action adaptations? When an anime character is Japanese, they proceed to cast Caucausian or foreign actors for it. Also when an anime characters is actually foreign (i.e. English names like Edward and Alphonse Elric... Or Sebastian Michaelis and Ciel Phantomhive) they cast Japanese actors for it. Oh the irony...

[@ibrahimabdullahi3077]

Exactly it honestly makes no sense. It is literally the perfect solution to the casting of FMA since the entire setting is based on alternate Europe with a fundamentally Caucasian cast while Death Note is literally based in Japan.

[@monthly.girls.digital8728]

Death note should have had a Japanese studio make it so they had access to Japanese locations. FMA should have had an American or English studio handle it so they could cast a large amount of White actors.

[@ibrahimabdullahi3077]

@@monthly.girls.digital8728 definitely

[@madeforreasonsunknown914]

To be fair, death note has white characters

[@ibrahimabdullahi3077]

@@madeforreasonsunknown914 Obviously but predominantly setting in Japan

[@dessfred]

The movie could have been called "Japanese cosplayers recreate FMA scenes on a trip in Europe". Btw, it is not a Netflix original movie. It was made by Warner Brother Japan and Square-Enix, then bought by Netflix for worldwide release. As a comparison, Death Note movie on Netflix IS Netflix's original production.

[@KookiesNolly]

dessfred EXACTLY !!!

[@jroldo8353]

No one gives a shit if 'Netflix' made it or not. They puchased the license, they contracted WB Japan and S-E, and they're showing it exclusively on their platform Its a 'Netflix' movie. No one cares about the fine details.

[@KookiesNolly]

jRoldo Mustache I care. Because people are gonna blame Netflix for this ( and some already are) even though they aren’t responsible for the movie’s existence. Lots of movies and shows you can find on Netflix, like FMA and FMAB, aren’t Netflix originals. Given that Netflix also makes it’s own original content it’s needlessly confusing to call this movie a Netflix movie because then everyone assume they made it.

[@dessfred]

It's called giving credit when its deserved. Not defending Netflix; they made horrible choices sometimes. But they made bold and genious ones too. Devilman Crybaby is an example. No one in Japan would have dared diffusing that on TV. In the case of FMA movie, its funny to think Hollywood-like studios dont take as much risk.

[@orestria]

It matters with regards to the graphics and cgi and aesthetic as this movie was made for the Japanese cinematic domestic audience.

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

I don't think the problem was trying to recreate the source material. The problem was trying to do so without enough time to do it in a decent way. This is not the first movie to fail spetacularly because the creators tried to cram in an entire series or the entire span of a book into a 2 hour movie.

[@zashgekido5616]

@Charmiskit It's faithful in the sense that the pieces are there, for the most part

[@kriichan6100]

Fullmetal alchemist is such an amazing anime and I genuinely hope that no one takes this movie seriously. Watch the anime PLEASE it's so much better

[@jaunstindarby2720]

But I like both

[@zane7995]

Why the hell did they not put wrath in the movie? WHY? He was by far the GREATEST character in the entire show/book. He was one of the main villains, and they just cut him off. What the hell movie.

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

Probably because Wrath didn't have much relevance to the scenes they decided to shove into the movie. Or maybe they couldn't find an actor they could convince to wear that mustache. I dunno.

[@DanielReyes-kv8ek]

They would have ruined him too. Which is why im not questioning his and Scar's absence

[@suziesea1027]

@@DanielReyes-kv8ek - my problem is not what they lacked completely, but what they disregarded in the scenes they chose to focus on. Fuckin Hughes' death got to me, but not out of sadness, thEY THOUGHT MAKING ROY HIMSELF SHOOT HIM WOULD BE BEST

[@NixiePixie22]

sorry to ask the stupid questions but which Wrath are we talking about? the 2003's Izumi's kid or King Bradley himself? I see King Bradley as the one and only but 2003's FMA did happen too so, yeah ='/

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

@@NixiePixie22 Since the movie is using scenes from the manga/Brotherhood (namely charbroiled Lust and the zombunculi) we are talking about Fuhrer King Bradley Wrath. Though Izumi Jr. Wrath didn't really have any involvement in the included scenes either.

[@salokin3087]

The horrible part is how my family will see this as what FMA is

[@McJaews]

Well. Be the person who shows them FMA: Brotherhood, and save them from themselves.

[@McJaews]

ApavTech in the context that your family would watch a foreign film based on Anime, which is even more niche than actual Anime, I think it would still be best to explain how the animated show is of much higher quality than the movie, and then sprinkle in some of the usual selling points about Anime for adults, studio ghibli, media not being age specific etc. Basically: if your family wants to watch a low budget live action adaptation of an Anime, but don't want to watch the Anime itself, then they are beyond reason.

[@kyotheman69]

last time i checked the characters were actually white not asian

[@McJaews]

kyotheman69 apropos of nothing?

[@McJaews]

My country traditionally subs everything except children's programs. I've always hated dubbed voices. Feels like you're getting a lower quality product than the original, even when the dub voices are decent. It's a shame about your parents disliking subtitled movies. That really cuts down on the variety of available media.

[@Zomdra]

What was that about "Lust's sexual relationships with the men she kills being the point of her character"? I don't remember that being a thing in either anime...

[@GothBiDemiGirl]

I only watched 03 and one of the men she gave a fake stone too and even grew to love him but ended up killing him. Been a bit since I saw it so that's all I remember off the top of my head.

[@NinjaSox7]

In Brotherhood it was literally only Havoc iirc

[@chrisSandersASX]

But it was

[@jazzmusicstops374]

Well not to a great extent but its vaguely there

[@laurenb6793]

in general its not really relevant but the whole arc in 03 where she falls in love does humanise her and actually make her an interesting developed character. this movie just took the homunculi and made their only personality being evil

[@Envy1359]

They also made Gluttony look like he wears overalls.

[@catbot158]

UPDATE: The movie just updated on Netflix with an English dub. They got back Vic Mignogna, Caitlin Glass, and Aaron Dismuke for their original roles, but uh...everything from this video still applies. Unfortunately.

[@michaelflores9220]

I'm amazed by all the people agreeing with this video. Don't they realize that to adress the points made in the video, the movie would need to be far too long?

[@FlameCatalyst]

Are we not going to talk about how Vic's voice is only ripped from Brotherhood at a lower sound quality than anyone else?

[@catbot158]

Foster Wood Erm, kinda? It's more like it doesn't sound quite right, and not just because most of the cast is different actors. The sound quality is just really off. The lip syncing isn't that great though, you are correct to assume that.

[@MsEAVaxx]

😱

[@tlreclipse1126]

So do it in 3 parts, don't cram to much into a single film or if you can only do 1 film hoping to do a second, Focus on 1 particular Story ARC and make that.

[@dsend_]

Fma? More like FML. Hah amirite?

[@7OwlsWithALaptop]

x Suspended you r right lad

[@MrBsehratmaannking]

fma... Fuck My Ass.... damn :-/ didnt wanna think of that

[@ronaldomendoza7578]

x Suspended *L Mao*

[@mariokarter13]

I'M THE ALCHEMIST AND YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH IT!!

[@tmck4138]

UP TOP

[@kamenraider1175]

They should've just stuck with a single arc, like the Tucker arc or the Cornello arc and then, if successful, follow it up. They'd have plenty of time and could even find ways to add Ed and Al's backstory into it easily

[@jimmyhan8824]

u cant really lengthen any one of those arcs to like 2 hours

[@brandy1185]

It’s hard for me to guess which arc would’ve been best. So much happened. Cornello arc isn’t very important IMO.

[@oceanrains4775]

Every time he showed footage that wasn’t from the live action was like a fresh drink of ice cold water in an ugly desert.

[@Markmaben17]

Can we talk about how all the wigs neither look like real world hair color, of which literally all the characters in FMA have naturally occurring colors, nor their appearance in the Manga/anime? Like they look like cheap Con wigs. There is no looseness or body. They look plastic. And the costumes don't look like real world interpretations nor ratio for ratio, color for color recreations. Everything just looks cheap and half assed.

[@cracmar03]

well ... is this time to mention that entire production had to run out of blonde wigs ? I mean Winry should be blonde ... and so should be Shou Tucker.

[@haganenochibichan]

And made out of scraps. Because I can't figure out another reason why every costume piece had a distracting number of heavy seams in it. The military costumes looked a lot like what I see people who order from sketchy Chinese websites wearing at cons. The designs were off, the colors were off, even the fit was off, and it was all off in almost the exact same way that those cheap Chinese costumes are. Ed just looked like a leather fetishist. They even made a mess of "Winry's" costumes (that character wasn't Winry in anything but name), when they could have just bought something off the rack and called it good.

[@snowyday95]

Actually, it looks like only Hawkeye and Hughe's wife had wigs. The young Ed and Al both had their hair bleached, older Ed as well.

[@Markmaben17]

snowyday95 if that is the case, it's even worse, because the color is so far off they fucked the bleach.

[@deepseafish257]

snowyday95 I'm pretty sure at least the lower part of older Eds hair was fake tho... there is no way the braid could have looked so wrong otherwise...

[@tystall2930]

NETFLIX DID NOT MAKE THIS MOVIE. THEY ONLY RELEASED IT FOR STREAMING.

[@txcforever]

Yeah, if it wasn't for Netflix it probably wouldn't even be released in the West.

[@ErgoDog]

txcforever oh, it would. On a expensive disc somewhere

[@KAXSH]

Ty From Jagon the Red : still sucks though 😒

[@PikaLink91]

Then why the hell does it say "A Netflix movie" on Netflix?

[@tystall2930]

PikaLink91 again. because Netflix distributed it to America. otherwise it would have never had a proper release in the west.

[@yungthunder2681]

I think it's ironic that this is the adaptation they chose to go with an all Asian cast for, rather than Death Note. Death Note characters are supposed to be Japanese. FMA characters (except Xing) are literally supposed to be European. Sigh

[@sinistrecigogne]

The difference is that Death Note characters do not NEED to be Asian for the plot to work. FMA characters do. It destroys an entire way of interpretating the story. And I'm fucking glad they didn't put Scar into the movie, it was already bad enough without adding brown face to it.

[@rochops6272]

ZeldaTPFan why do they need to be Asian. And scar would've been fine if they got a not Asian/white person to do his character

[@sinistrecigogne]

@@rochops6272 Oops, sorry, I meant that European characters in FMA needed to stay European for the plot to work and to keep alive a way to see the manga's message. Also for Scar, I'm 100% sure they would've used make-up to make the actor look like the character. That is what we call brown face and I'm not sure it's morally acceptable

[@enkh-erdenebatbold1177]

@@sinistrecigogne mustang is an asian too

[@angelmacias1293]

I know this is a bit late, but I'll comment that what's funny is that L I believe is one of the two people that's supposed to be somewhat white in Death Note, but they made him black instead like wtf , who was in charge of the casting? 😂 However is there is one thing that the Death Note Netflix adaptation did right was Ryuk. Willem Dafoe's performance as Ryuk was amazing. But that's the only goodd thing I have to say about that movie.

[@bloodysparkles5372]

i find it hard to blame the child actors for their bad acting but i do blame whoever was in charge of casting

[@MitchellTF]

Ironically? The death note creator loves the American version because it was original.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

really? is there a source to this?

[@jamestomato1744]

Well, that's interesting.

[@bobjones2959]

You sure he wasn't just being polite? I haven't seen anything he said about the Netflix adaptation, but from reading some of Tsugumi Ohba's interviews, I get the impression that he's the type to praise something to be nice, even if he doesn't like it.

[@slope.2469]

bob jones not everyone dislikes things you dislike.

[@holographicpop]

Can we just get an original live-action prequel about Riza Hawkeye and Roy Mustang? That would be really neat to see. IMO A live FMA can happen. One day someone will get it right...

[@ladyangel1869]

TunefulPopCollects Dude that would be FIRE LITERALLY

[@muffin3203]

yes!! bruh that would be amazing

[@DAVESPEPSI]

Fullmetal Cosplay the movie

[@nekoqueen5524]

That's exactly what I thought when I watched

[@Ritokure]

Except I saw blond pubic hair in porn that looks more accurate than those fucking wigs.

[@carrioncrow13]

Even Cosplayers can do that better. -_-

[@Toxicity1987]

The Child Actors were also way to young. Rai Takahashi was like 7 wen he played Edward. And that single Age resembles Eds whole age range when his mother dies (at 6), the teachings from Izumi Curtis (age 8-10), the human transmutation (11) and receiving his State Alchemist Certificate (age 12).

[@joelbond7440]

And in the dub, all that was handled entirely by Vic Micnogna.

[@stjimmerz]

This movie suffers a lot of issues that a lot of live-action anime adaptions does. FMA is one of those series that it is possible to make at least a 3 film trilogy like they did with Rurouni Kenshin. They squished and rearranged too many plot points that it doesn't feel natural and even goes as far as to make Edward not even feel like Edward. Everything feels too clean and man-made and sterile for the story they're supposed to tell. It does hold a lot of similar issues to the Attack on Titan film as well. This is one property that would've benefited from a diversive cast. FMA takes place in a fictional alternate Germany-like country with other nations like alternate China, alternate Russia, Alternate Middle-East and so on. It's one of the rare diverse anime series that's important to it's many themes. Not including core-characters like Scar is a huge issue. FMA includes near racial genocide of a religious culture. Distrust against other nations and bids for power that may end up with the slaughtering of competing clans for the title of Emperor. Dealing with the guilt and PTSD a meaningless war that you know was wrong and ended with unnecessary slaughter. If revenge is truly right. Secret experimentation on solidiers and the corruption of power. These are stories and themes that Ed doesn't even directly deal with until later in the series. It's a shame this is another uninspired adaptation.

[@baratacom]

I find it very ironic that this is one franchise that has a great chance to do better in the hands of the west due to...you know, pretty much taking place in Europe. I still cringe over how not right everyone looks.

[@rodolfodesouzaesilva5601]

Pretty much that. That was my main problem with the movie.

[@c_f0rce]

supertechnoman11 marvel movies have hundreds of millions of dollars backing them and they know they will make it back. This kinda if movie is a gamble. But this ain't a western movie. It's a Japanese movie made for Japanese people.

[@Thane3999]

Huh? How is taking place in Europe in any way a jutification for a movie to be produced in the West?

[@Thane3999]

"Having Japanese studios try to make adaptations of Manga/Anime that are heavily inspired by western media/culture like FMA or Cowboy bebop results in the mess we see now." You're forgetting that these animes/mangas are produced by Japanese people and companies. There is no reason to assume that Western companies would do a better job.

[@GodhandPhemto]

Glorious stop trying to be a little sjw and fucking think about it for a second. EVERYONE knows that anime is made in Japan by Japanese people, that DOESNT mean that EVERY story takes place in Japan with Japanese people. FMA takes place in a fictional Germanesque European country Amestris (their fucking King is called "Fuhrer" king bradley FFS!!!), thats why they are blonde and have the names they have, The country of Xing is supposed to represent the Chinese and Ishval is supposed to represent a northerm african/muslim type country. But thats besides the point. The point is people arent saying the west would do a better job than the Japanese just because they arent Japanese, they are saying that if you're going to cast people into a movie that takes place in a type of country at least try to cast the right race for it, How pissed would you be if they rereleased Roots with a bunch of Jewish people and Woody Allen as Kunta Kinte?! They whitewashed Deathnote a story that takes place in Japan with Japanese characters and Japanified FMA a story that takes place in a fictional Europe, thats the problem people have, dont know what the hell you're going on about, just doing what sjw's do I guess.

[@AE1OU]

At least the earthbending cgi in this movie is slightly more believable than Shamalayan's Last Airbender lol

[@DeMomcalypseLive]

ΔΘΛΞΠΣΦΨΩ Yeah, instead of complete shit, it's just 1% less complete shit

[@dislike_button33]

Oh that hurts...

[@trebot9292266]

ehh, as bad as STLA was, i think FMA was actually worse. Neither is worth watching, but FMA is almost art in how bad it is.

[@coolgreenbug7551]

TLA is objectively a worse movie with how it does things, while FMA is just kinda there, existing in mediocrity

[@trebot9292266]

TLA tried to tell a story, it was a bad story, but at least it tried. FMA is just "woo we liked FMA, come watch our movie".

[@klevin21]

I recently recommended FMA brotherhood to a friend, now i’m worried he would found this movie first

[@icravedeath.1200]

If you specified BROTHERHOOD, then you'd be fine, (the 2003 series is good enough though it has some fucking brilliant animation).

[@ruffy7679]

They seriously need to stop live action anime

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

Rurouni Kenshin being the exception.

[@Altayus]

or atleast improve and conclude the shit out of their past?

[@bazinga743]

I believe it can work, if there’s good comic book movies and good book adaptations then there can be good anime adaptations.

[@Dark0neone]

wait they made a Rurouni Kenshin live adaptation? And it's actually good? the fuck?

[@mennograafmans1595]

If marvel can make good movies about their comics, it should be possible to make good movies from japanese comics (manga for the nitpickers). The problem with movie-adaptations from anime is that they try to hard to stay faithfull to the sourcematerial. You can't cram 20 hours of sourcematerial into a 2 hour movie. Take the characters and make your own story based on the sourcematerial. In FMAB, there's a timegap of about half a year between Briggs and the Promised day. Make a movie about what happened then. Then you have the freedom to add pro- and antagonists, plotlines and setting not in the series. People watching the movie are probably there not for the story that is both written and animated, they are there for the characters, the world and the feeling of the original.

[@jeddafakee91]

I'm just sad we got none of that Hawkeye Charm

[@innegativeion]

I think Al's visual design is completely emblematic of what you're saying here. He looks exactly like he does in the shows. He looks like a cartoon character. yay? He looks so out of place, like he literally just walked out of a television playing the FMA anime. This character should have been completely redesigned visually, to look like a real suit of armor you someone might actually put up as a medieval decoration because, well, that's what he is. However, since Al's appearance is so iconic, changing that was obviously out of the question on the marketing end - even though redesigning him in such a way to both look like a suit of armor in the real world while being reminiscent of his most defining features is something a skilled character designer would be very capable of.

[@coolgreenbug7551]

Is it that hard to make a suit of armor with glow-ey eyes and have a dude in it. Just do the Darth Vader thing where you dub over him

[@Cadolyst]

Small note: Why did they make ed and al’s childhood home a brick house when they have to BURN IT DOWN for the plot?

[@rattersworld1016]

LOL yes why

[@KatsuImagitian]

Wasn't this made by a Japanese production and Netflix just got the license to stream it?

[@eddy9524]

Katsu Imagitian yes, i think he should take netflix out of the title its misleading

[@stickizonline]

Yep

[@aniieesteiner]

I was thinking the exact same.

[@ketsuekikumori9145]

They are contributing to adding shit things to their lineup and they are paying for the license, which we payed for. So netflix is responsible for the executive decision of getting it and encouraging shit to be produced, but they aren't responsible for the executive decision of producing it in the first place.

[@botanbutton]

Yep

[@en4431]

Short answer: Because every live action film is complete garbage compared to the anime.

[@imunchan1113]

The bleach movie was pretty good

[@TheEckoEcho]

rurouni kenshin movie series is the best

[@yankesjets06]

I second that rurouni kenshi easily best adapted movie

[@Connor.SG-1Ring]

Alita and Detective Pikachu were pretty good.

[@nobleskywalker4639]

@@Connor.SG-1Ring i don't think detective pikachu counts cause it wasn't an anime

[@thesephiam]

Not to mention the characters they cut out because there’s no way a Japanese person could be that character... where the hell is Major Armstrong? And also, all of sudden Al can remember the door? Where’s that scene? Update: having now rewatched it. Could they have fucked up the reveal of the stones being people any worse?

[@haganenochibichan]

No Armstrongs, no Ishvallans, and no Xingese because we'd just get them mixed up with everyone else.

[@thesephiam]

Johnny The conqueror: to a degree I agree. Despite the wigs I was very very impressed with how close the actors looked to the source material. Dr Marco for instance was spot on, as was Hughs, Ross, and Hawkeye (although I’m kinda bummed they didn’t show more of how bad ass she can be), Ed was pretty decent in facial expressions and I really liked the actor that played Whinrey despite the lack of blonde hair. But the ishavans and the Armstrong’s? That would have been pushing it. They also did a good job with the priest... though if they really wanted to play it close to the source, his build should have been way wider. But that’s not picking at this point. I slightly curious if the studio even considered getting non Japanese actors for any roles (but not in a accusatory manner) but more so if there was even anyone else available to play the roles. One thing I would think would be interesting to see is if they did create a dubbed version of this is if they’d use the English voice actors for it. (Subbed vs dubbed arguments aside it would be a nice tie in) All that said, if an Western studio ever wants to try their hand at this, I think it would way better... wait... death note ... maybe not.

[@Leolikat]

Alphonse's armor looks more realistic than Edward's hair also when I saw the trailer to this I thought it was a parody and a joke

[@Herr_Gamer]

Gonna talk about how everyone with blonde hair looks like they have plastic wigs

[@hisokamorow6709]

They do have plastic wigs xD

[@Herr_Gamer]

Tezca Tlipoca yeah lmao but they could at least have tried to make it look real

[@Pigron1]

To be honest... Should have stayed as an anime

[@bazinga743]

I disagree, I believe that there can be a good Fullmetal Alchemist live action adaptation. If there’s good comic book adaptations and good book adaptations then there can be good anime adaptations.

[@eliasklein2580]

@@bazinga743 I don't believe that there can be a good live action adaptation because it would be too expensive. They're not well written and it would be very difficult to recreate the effects of the anime.

[@theftking]

>If there’s good comic book adaptations and good book adaptations then there can be good anime adaptations. No one is complaining about the anime adaptation. It's the live-action adaptation that sucks.

[@Kay-ee9vn]

Eragon:My bad adaptation cant be beat. FMA: "CHALLENGE ACCEPTED" I didnt even make it 5 minutes in, it was the worst, so rewatch all the anime lol

[@weird_vulpix7488]

"Hi kids, real proud of your alchemy! Bye kids, forever. Alright, bro. Let's Frankenstein this bitch." I died.