Netherlands and Hungary Ditch the EU's Migration Pact: What Next?

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@HelloHi-g2u Ай бұрын

Irregular? You mean illegal right?

@Falc777 Ай бұрын

All media outlets have been told to switch to calling it irregular instead of illegal recently

@Phyt5 Ай бұрын

Or asylum seekers

Ай бұрын

@@Falc777 I call them invaders, which they are. If someone goes over your border illegally, they invade your country. Be they civilians or military men, they are doing the same thing.

@diogorodrigues747 Ай бұрын

Irregular isn't the same as illegal. All illegal immigrants are irregular immigrants but not all irregular immigrants are illegal ones. Asylum seekers also exist too.

@henkfinkers3931 Ай бұрын

No. Irregular immigrant is something else. Not all illegal immigrants are irregular and not all irregular immigrants are illegal.

@snooze02 Ай бұрын

The EU is NOT obligated to solve other countries problems. Enough is enough!

@wvvwwvwvv Ай бұрын

ACCESS TO EUROPEANS IN NOT A HUMAN RIGHT!!!! We're sick of being treated as the worlds parents!!!!!

@JackSparrowTheCAPTAIN Ай бұрын

Import the third world, become the third world... Thanks to big noses.

@schtormm Ай бұрын

@@wvvwwvwvv Shouldn't have colonized half the world then

@МихаилоМитић Ай бұрын

@@schtormm so norway, sweden, hungary, poland, czechia, slovakia and others colonized exactly who?

@tommykawaii Ай бұрын

@@schtormmscrew it, not their problem anymore for a long long time. These people aren’t entitled to free immigration just because they like

@thomasc.5158 Ай бұрын

Just to be clear, "irregular" is a euphamism for "illegal". Honestly, TLDR needs to speak honestly and plainly.

@vetinaris1297 Ай бұрын

In English they mean 2 slightly different things.

@jasonjanoyblahaloverboy3005 Ай бұрын

No they are not@Minimmalmythicist

@prestonr6348 Ай бұрын

Me: *Steals from an elderly person. Police: Stealing is illegal. VS Police: Stealing is irregular. Illegal migration, let's call it what it is.

@RisetoStrength Ай бұрын

@Minimmalmythicist They're trying to get you used to the idea that migration is regular.

@RisetoStrength Ай бұрын

@Minimmalmythicist You're really, really slow. Get out of here.

@malpiszon2318 Ай бұрын

I’m from poland and as much as left wing and pro EU I am, the pact is just extremly unfair, it doesn’t take into account that we took more than 2 million Ukrainian refugees and no ,,solidarity” measures where implemented. Why would we be punished for not taking even more, when we already took more than a lot of other countries will ever take?

@leGUIGUI Ай бұрын

" it doesn’t take into account that we took more than 2 million Ukrainian refugees" Actually, it does. There is some irony that Poland, as a border country who receive many migrants, would reject the pact that might actually relieve them of the load of migrants in question.

@Dracoti Ай бұрын

Because white migrants (refugees) don't count

@Marc_lux Ай бұрын

@@malpiszon2318 temporary protection is not taken into account with the AMMR. This is a major fallacy, even for western European countries' points of view.

@Jajalaatmaar Ай бұрын

@@leGUIGUI Why? Pretty sure that Ukrainian refugees are just not considered asylum migrants in any official way.

@shlomogoldenstein344 Ай бұрын

What happened to “Refugees Welcome”? Don’t be a bigot now

@maxpreobrazhensky7124 Ай бұрын

Imagine paying 20k euros to some other country, because you don't want to take in a literally illegal and potentially unskilled migrant...

@NoidoDev 28 күн бұрын

It's way too much. There needs to be international competition.

@SpamMouse Ай бұрын

Arrive with passport and visa = legal. Rubber boat etc = illegal.

@AaronOkeanos Ай бұрын

And what if you cannot get a passport and visa because your government is violent to you or you are in warzone?

@NicolasHaufe Ай бұрын

@@AaronOkeanosthan its illegal

@AnaPaula-rn9et Ай бұрын

@@NicolasHaufeI mean but asylum seekers are literally that, it’s literally something in international law, it’s something we Europeans have often used, be it during the Cold War when people were fleeing from the Soviet block, pre and during ww2 where European Jews fled prosecution by getting asylum in places like the US and Britain, people fleeing the Spanish civil and more.

@aymanla471 Ай бұрын

rubber boat lol you are so outdated ...i saw them in spain they arrive in what they call in spain narcolancha a speed boat with 3 or 4 outboard engines..those boats cost around 100k euros

@ambinintsoahasina Ай бұрын

@@AnaPaula-rn9etTrue but the reason it's so controversial here in Europe is that social studies reported that while first generation immigrants have average criminal rate just on par with natives, criminal cases among second generations are off the roof. the studies are out there and you can check. Plus, the raise of terrorist attacks and insecurities on the raise in several cities here in Europe made that people's view changed. And Europeans as a whole are shifting more and more to the right.

@sp90009 Ай бұрын

Europe (and other western countries) need to return to the traditional merit-based immigration system. And abolish this relatively new nonsensical need- or want-based system.

@Jeremiah88 Ай бұрын

yep

@mussajavdan8203 Ай бұрын

HOW ABOUT WE START TO SEE AND SOLVE THE CAUSE OF MIGRATIONS AND REFUEGEES . WELL WARS ARE FOUGHT WITH WESTERN GUNS ON DAILY BASES . JUST LOOK AT ISRAEL PALESTINE LIBANON CONFLICT , EU IS SELLING WEAPONS TO THEM > SO FU>>>>>OF

@roberto8650 Ай бұрын

This could work if we hadn't contributed to creating the needs or wants. If you break it, you buy it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@SzymonPmc Ай бұрын

@@roberto8650 y'all did, sweden didn't 🤷🏻‍♂

@NPC-bs3pm Ай бұрын

@@roberto8650 Ok I want to "break it"🔓

@xander6522 Ай бұрын

I've got a feeling the immigration issue is going to be the downfall of the EU 🤷🏼‍♂️

@tombo416 Ай бұрын

and it won’t be because of the migrants themselves. It’ll be because you put too much focus on that issue whilst ignoring bigger issues.

@devanman7920 Ай бұрын

There's no way it won't be. The EU is effectively willingly destroying itself. Crazy stuff

@nikolasnielsen9751 Ай бұрын

@@tombo416 It is exactly because of the types of people entering the EU and the poisonous ideas they bring.

@CriticalCommentatorDrama Ай бұрын

@@tombo416 How many Islamic fundamentalist incidents in 60s and 70s? Rising sectarianism and crime Lower numbers makes it easier to integrate Harder to get an appointment, school place Left love mass migration even though the corporations do too Seems like a big issue to me

@0ptic0p22 Ай бұрын

@@CriticalCommentatorDrama free slaves and votes bro what else, and these kids with only 1 parents supporting them

@ajavierb2078 Ай бұрын

Just say illegal. Dont make up all these fake terms when there is already a word for it.

@ShaktaKash Ай бұрын

He's clearly a part of the problem.

@Hardcore_Remixer Ай бұрын

They were told to use the term irregular instead. Left wing governments doing their political correctness thing at its best.

@rickyspanish4792 Ай бұрын

you are illegal. how did that make you feel?

@Mosern1977 Ай бұрын

There is nothing "illegal" about this type of immigration. If it was, then paraticipants would be jailed and deported automatically.

@Scott-tw2jn Ай бұрын

The scary thing is the people of Europe have voted againts immigration every time they could in the past 20 years, what will happen when people cannot use democracy? I am scared that ethnic violence will become huge in the 2030s and 2040s. Like why wouldnt you use voilence when voting clearly did help.... (I am Caribbean but europes future looks bleak)

@johnguzmandiaz Ай бұрын

You're right! We've already seem some of these expressions of ethnic violence to some extent. They're small but important and scary. I think it will just evolve. Once it's too big to solve, it will most likely implode and they'll see how we can solve it (if we actually will be able to).

@Victorvondoom9159 Ай бұрын

Remigration is the only viable solution that won't end in an unnecessary loss of life hopefully European governments will see that and start going through with it

@falsevacuum4667 Ай бұрын

What do you mean cannot use democracy? Did you not watch the video? The New Pact on Migration that was worked on from 2020 onwards and passed this year is the democratic response to this issue to tighten immigration.

@Jajalaatmaar Ай бұрын

@@falsevacuum4667 It took 12 years to negotiate and is dead on arrival. It's purpose is not to reduce migration but to manage it better. People want reduced migration.

@TheSegert Ай бұрын

Nah im not scared etnic violence would happen. At least not from native europeans. We learned our lessen from ww2 that that is very bad.

@mabeSc Ай бұрын

Europe needs to stop acting as if it's the saviour of the world. The European continent (not including Russia) is tiny when compared to Africa and Asia. The concept of multiculturalism is being seriously challenged and rightly so -- why do we need multiculturalism but other countries do not? Why do we need cultures from all over the world in a single country when travelling in the modern day and age is the cheapest and easiest it's ever been? If you want to experience different cultures then why not simply take a flight to the country of interest? Why do we need cultural "enrichment"? This is all leading to massive social unrest and to ethnic violence. The fabric of European society has been torn down by mass migration and so much of the progress made during the past 30 to 40 years has been lost (women's rights, safety, poverty, healthcare, education and much more) or diluted due to resources being spread so thin.

@thijsrikkerink6333 Ай бұрын

I heard someone call it "neocolonial overconfidence", refering to the idea that europe somehow needs to accomodate every refugee in the world.

@bobtop4689 Ай бұрын

@@thijsrikkerink6333 I call it the white man's burden all over again

@mabeSc Ай бұрын

@@thijsrikkerink6333 It does make sense. Many of the countries taking in massive amounts of refugees and paying for them are mostly in Western Europe, which had big empires or colonies at various points in history. Most of Eastern Europe, at least for the time being, has been spared from this fate -- both because they are less financially attractive but also because they had very few to no colonies. So trying to make them feel "guilty" for the past simply does not work. I still find it crazy how scared many Western politicians are of being labelled as racist. Am also guessing that threats and intimidation do have an effect on it as well -- many UK politicians resigned over threats to their safety if am not mistaken.

@to101md Ай бұрын

I believe the whole “saviour” angle is just astroturf. Big business (who controls your politicians through “lobbying” & “gifts”) just want a near unlimited supply of workers to choose from (i.e higher chance they can pick someone to lowball a wage from)

@henkfinkers3931 Ай бұрын

The fabric of European society has been torn down by boomers who destroyed the future of their grandchildren and now want to blame immigrants who work harder than boomers ever did.

@JohnCroucherAU Ай бұрын

Controversial, but it seems offshore processing worked here in Australia. The boats stopped.

@firion666 Ай бұрын

Italy and Greece should do the same.

@nikobellic570 Ай бұрын

If Europe did that, then how would it destroy its civilization?

@vetinaris1297 Ай бұрын

@@nikobellic570you still worship Zeus? Or believe the earth is flat? Or praise Genghis Khan? Ot you mean a different civilisation? Youll have to specify which time in history is the civilisation you are referring to.

@VTh-f5x Ай бұрын

Actually the boats stopped because Indonesians got richer and comfortable. Africans are desperate.

@tomorrowneverdies567 Ай бұрын

And average quality of phenotype in Australia decreased due to legal immigration. No thank you. Greetings from Greece.

@F_Around_and_find_out Ай бұрын

Netherlands, Poland, Hungary are the real ones here. No is no and the EU better respect that.

@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK Ай бұрын

As if the referendum will fail in Poland. You could have this same referendum on anti-immigration - legal or otherwise - in any European let alone EU country right now and it would be a super majority pass.

@mussajavdan8203 Ай бұрын

@philipen65888 Ай бұрын

At this stage, it is not about the degree of affinity each nation has with right-wing views, but rather a matter of common sense or even an existential issue for some countries.

@starseeker1334 Ай бұрын

Call it what it is, illegal not irregular

@grigory_m Ай бұрын

Asylum seekers are not illegal

@Kevin-vc3jf Ай бұрын

@@grigory_m all illegals are seeking asylum

@raypol1 Ай бұрын

@@grigory_m Asylum seekers are supposed to stay in the first safe country they arrive in, this is not the case here as such they are illegal in most countries.

@Geny Ай бұрын

@@grigory_m Also most asylum seekers are not actually seeking safety, but rather better living conditions

@lachlanchester8142 Ай бұрын

If you have asylum seeker laws then it’s not illegal

@majaolexova7378 Ай бұрын

Netherlands being Central European country is kinda surpring new fact to me

@TheGahta Ай бұрын

You thought of it as what then? Western like france/portugal/spain, "northern"?

@0ptic0p22 Ай бұрын

also. look vertically and not horizontally

@duncanhw Ай бұрын

@@TheGahta Portugal and Spain are usually counted as Southern Europe, not Western. Holland is in Western Europe.

@antoniotorcoli-z7c Ай бұрын

Look at the map

@XY-uc1tw Ай бұрын

@@TheGahta well Spain and Portugal are South European..

@marcosa2000 Ай бұрын

Seeing this man without glasses feels weird

@paulstott5130 Ай бұрын

Stop with towing the narrative please!, its 'ILLEGAL' not 'IRREGULAR'

@diogorodrigues747 Ай бұрын

It's not a narrative - irregular means illegal AND asylum seekers, which aren't illegal. Get real.

@0ptic0p22 Ай бұрын

@@diogorodrigues747 white dude for kamala spotted

@Adam-326 Ай бұрын

@@diogorodrigues747But it also helps with propaganda.

@henkfinkers3931 Ай бұрын

I see the comments are full of people who say this. Irregular immigrant is a designation that can but doesn't have to overlap with illegal.

@JongeKroost Ай бұрын

My god, I see the right has been primed to get mad at the term irregular migrants. Whats the problem exactly? Oh no we have different words that mean slightly different things to aid in a more clear communication. Help! Help! The left is using the word Irregular migrants instead of saying illegal immigrants and asylum seekers.

@DoodleDan 29 күн бұрын

€20,000 per migrant? That is actually insane, hope the countries win their exemption claims, they are not obligated to deal with this

@aktuellyattee8265 Ай бұрын

How about we just don't let people in in the first place?

@mussajavdan8203 Ай бұрын

Well how bout we ditch UN resolutions and Geneva conventions totally , and go back to start war war 3. So childish you are

@leovalde7z Ай бұрын

i am a computer science engineer from india. currently interning with google india, but would love to work for game development companies like mojang studios (stockholm) or riot games (usa). Also, you have some excellent universities id like to study in (eth zurich). I often see ppl from western countries mention we dont have any problem with legal migration, but I want to ask this genuinely to any of you from eu/na. would you 'like' me working at one of your companies, would you rather it went to a citizen from your country regardless of absolute skill disparity? Can I truly belong to another nation, and more importantly can a nation's natives ever accept me as their own even if I put all my heart into it. These questions have kept me from actually applying because I dont want to be a burden to the people around me (nor would I like to feel lonely and discarded).

@KulturystaChaosu Ай бұрын

@@leovalde7z just do it officially like every normal foreigners, not like a savage by storming borders, Most people don't hate normal migrats, they hate those storming borders.

@NicolasHaufe Ай бұрын

@@leovalde7zIf you behave Well learn language and integrate and Work your more than Welcome

@nickt2822 Ай бұрын

because the economies would collapse. how is that not obvious?!

@buksbotes6782 Ай бұрын

In short, immigration has consumed the oxygen in the room. Threatening EU cohecion, radicalized politics on both sides, consumed billions of euros in support and management of the situation. Safety issue a real concern. Political parties focusing on immigration and related issues rather than on European strategy. Contributing to housing crises etc etc.

@raphaeldemo9966 Ай бұрын

This is ridiculous that it's taken 10 years to make laws with some teeth? DUMB AF!

@tomwensrich9602 Ай бұрын

It's intentional. These people's trust funds are dependent on excessive spending which migrants help with of course.

@Jeremiah88 Ай бұрын

we should temporary suspend right to asylum like Tusk is saying.

@mussajavdan8203 Ай бұрын

@NicolasHaufe Ай бұрын

@@mussajavdan8203maybe Stop being so violent and intolerant

@giovannituber2827 Ай бұрын

Jeremiah is right

@mussajavdan8203 Ай бұрын

@@NicolasHaufe Well you are the one with F 35 Bombing people to death . Not the refugees fleeing

@bobtop4689 Ай бұрын

*Permanently

@TheZett Ай бұрын

Immigration is okay, if the people arrive legally and if they are coming from compatible cultures (e.g. East Asia or Oceania). As shown in the last 9 years, this does not apply to a lot of people from the MENA region, as their culture clashes too much with the western one.

@VTh-f5x Ай бұрын

Why would East Asians want to migrate to eu. 😂😂 East Asia has a much higher standard of living than EU. Same for Oceania. They are much much richer than average european.

@arnoheens7900 Ай бұрын

@Minimmalmythicist except they're completely different religiously, and that makes all the difference. Exactly the same people except one is a strong devoted Christian vs a strong devoted Muslim. Doesn't matter that both have the exact same opinions ultimately the religions are different and Islam doesn't integrate into Europe (it shouldn't, its their religion and we have ours)

@NicolasHaufe Ай бұрын

@MinimmalmythicistNonsense they are complete opposites

@paxeb Ай бұрын

@MinimmalmythicistExactly. Even Christianity isn‘t compatible with modern western values. People just don‘t know their religion. They just go to church and that‘s it. They go one day to church and the other six days they going out partying, getting drunk and sleeping around. Some or all of those things banned by the religion. Both of them come from the middle east and yet europeans pretend that Jesus was some German with brown hair and blue eyes. He has more in common with those "dirty" arabs and some of these so called christians.

@NicolasHaufe Ай бұрын

@Minimmalmythicist you should to your Research that they have maybe 5 similiar Verses doesnt make the Religions similiar at all

@Zzzooooppp Ай бұрын

lmao god bless Polish people. The liberal PM is further right than most of of Europe, and still not aggressive enough against the migration pact for the average polish voter. I LOVE POLSKA

@BananaBossYT Ай бұрын

As someone who loves the EU, countries such as the Netherlands don’t have space left for immigrants, especially after the Ukrainian refugees. So them wanting to be granted a special position isn’t out of the question

@mussajavdan8203 Ай бұрын

@fabiocavaleri Ай бұрын

We don't need EU sharing migrants schemes, we need EU Rwanda schemes

@weiserwolf580 Ай бұрын

yes because, paying the governments of other countries to send migrants to them and then they send them back to us later (to repeat the recurring revenue scheme), it's an absolutely brilliant idea

@giovannituber2827 Ай бұрын

Many of them actually

@Nasrudith Ай бұрын

You mean more absolute boondoggles that cost millions per migrant because they want to shove an issue under the rug?

@thehumanity3324 Ай бұрын

Thats the dumbest thing anyone has says so far in these comments. That plan is probably the biggest wast of taxpayer money in 21st century, what are you talking about? 1.8 million pounds per asylum seeker.

@tbk2010 Ай бұрын

2016. It took the EU 10 years (+ the rise of the far right) to react to an ongoing crisis in any meaningful way. IF that pact es established. And even then it's a very timid reaction.

@kelvindoang1228 Ай бұрын

Doubt they really see this as threat more like the voters reject it so we should at least put face do someting about this. They love migrant its make coutnty poorer so big company can hire lower skill worker

@Chadrick2 Ай бұрын

@@kelvindoang1228 Its also about votes just recently America tried to pass a bill that let illegals vote and like you know 99% dems of dems voted yes and 99% of republicans voted no luckily it didn't pass dems voting yes lets us 100% know its about votes and control they send them to neutral states and make them turn blue.

@hofimastah Ай бұрын

Germans invited them. A massive human trafficking industry has been created and now they want others to deal with that. Dear Germans! You invited them you keep them!

@diogorodrigues747 Ай бұрын

Austrians as well, or did you forget who actually opened the door in 2015?

@TheBooban Ай бұрын

@@diogorodrigues747 I thought it was Merkel. Followed by the Swedes.

@fungo6631 Ай бұрын

@@diogorodrigues747It was Orban who actually sent them to the west. Learn your geography.

@elmerkarlsson5005 Ай бұрын

@@TheBoobanYea here in Sweden we actually help migrants. We have taken by far the most per capita (double that of Germany in 2015). We are making it work and things are getting better but there was some issues in the beginning. Finally we start to get to see some of the benefits

@mussajavdan8203 Ай бұрын

@ABombs1 Ай бұрын

'irregular migrants'. So we're revealing our political preferences, eh

Ай бұрын

I call them invaders, as they invade the borders.

@0ptic0p22 Ай бұрын

its a fetus but its irregular migrants

@MrTomadevil Ай бұрын

Brits are not good at geography 😅

@KillyBilly141 Ай бұрын

next time i enter someones house ill claim that im just an irregular :) Also i will claim that they owe me medical care, food, shelter, and have to let my family live in their home. (they have to pay for the flight aswell)

@tidus1212 Ай бұрын

TLDR is very much left leaning but they do give the facts without bias 80% of the time

@AkasakaS2000 Ай бұрын

Still the core of the problem is not addressed. No ideology checks before entering? If someone sees 2 men kissing and will throw a tentrum, that person should leave. If someone gets violent over a burning book, they should leave too. Some ideas are incompatible with EU. This has to be stopped. People who do not respect human rights should not be enjoying them.

@SuperSmashDolls Ай бұрын

What you propose violates freedom of expression. I agree with your sentiment that people who do not respect human rights should not enjoy them. But immigration is also a human right - in fact, it backstops other rights. The EU is already chock full of people who will throw a tantrum at two men kissing. In fact, *they're the same ones who want to stop external immigration*. Because if they close the border, then the two men kissing can't flee the EU. Furthermore, there are practical problems with "ideology checks", specifically that you can't actually check someone's ideology in a way that's even remotely fair and not immediately gameable. People will just hide their shit from the bureaucrats.

@longiusaescius2537 Ай бұрын

@SuperSmashDolls access to your house is my human right

@SuperSmashDolls Ай бұрын

@@longiusaescius2537 A country is not a house

@TheZett Ай бұрын

@@SuperSmashDolls No foreigner has a right to enter Europe. You can request access, but it there is no guarantee that this will be granted, especially not if you arrive illegally, without papers and with no reason or bad reasons (e.g. welfare migrants).

@SuperSmashDolls Ай бұрын

@@TheZett If you want to quibble that Europe doesn't *recognize* a right to immigration, sure. But that doesn't mean it's not a right. Tyrants and dictators *want* other countries to close their own borders, because they plan to curtail other human rights, and if the people can just walk away from the country, then they have no power. That's why I consider migration to be a human right: it backstops other human rights. The way tyrants get other countries to close their borders is by scaring them into doing it. In fact, this is what Putin is doing right now. Russia needs the international refugee system to collapse so that Russian draft-dodgers have no choice but to fight and die to steal Ukrainian territory. So he's collecting flightloads of migrants from Syria and dumping them on the Finnish border. And knowing Putin, those migrants are probably selected specifically for being hardened criminals, just to make them scarier. In that *specific* case, you can justify closing the borders to refugees as a defense mechanism. But you're still serving the interests of Putin by doing so, and you need to somehow counterbalance whatever the fuck Putin tries next rather than just reacting how he expects. The US doesn't have the same problems Europe has regarding immigration because we spent fifty years with generous family reunification programs that gave us well-integrated immigrant populations from every country on Earth. This is a 'peace time' immigration program that made us prepared for the 'war time' reality of high refugee counts.

Ай бұрын

Imagine that unorthodox idea of not letting them in? Would solve everyones problems instantly. There would be no burden other than keeping up the border force (wastly cheaper). There would be no tension between member States and they could concentrate on solving all the other issues. It would stop people dying on sea becouse they wouldn't start their journey trough 10+ states and a sea just to arrive in western Europe. But for some reason this is an impossible idea...

@aapjew18 Ай бұрын

Solves everyone's issues, except the people trying to flee their country for fear of violence and death.

@Jeremiah88 Ай бұрын

yep

@mussajavdan8203 Ай бұрын

@goshoko8835 Ай бұрын

How are you going to not let them in. You can't sink them on the sea. You can't return them once they get into your country. It's not as simple as everyone is making it to be. And I do not think we should go with the nuclear route of simply just breaking human rights convention. Because the last time we were like nah, fuck them refugees plenty of Jews died.

@longiusaescius2537 Ай бұрын

@aapjew18 Open Borders For Israel

@yookalaylee2289 Ай бұрын

Illegal > Irregular

@Mosern1977 Ай бұрын

Its not "illegal". Its perfectlly legal way of immigrating. And in reality it is the VIP route.

@rdotfinanceandnews Ай бұрын

*illegal not irregular

@NoidoDev 28 күн бұрын

That would imply that you are okay with all legal immigration. But refugees are legal under current laws.

@rdotfinanceandnews 28 күн бұрын

@NoidoDev why would it imply that? I'm just saying descriptions matter, as in 1984 they are renaming to reshape thoughts. Our ministry of war is now ministry of defence, in the book it was of peace for example. Words have meaning attached

@NoidoDev 28 күн бұрын

@rdotfinanceandnews You're just causing additional friction with your lack of understanding. Courts have decided that the so called refugees aren't illegal, it's as simple as that. We would have to change laws to make it illegal.

@ga21351 Ай бұрын

UK imports 1.2 million immigrants last year and granted 1.4 million another vizas. Who have more immigration problems now? EU or UK?

@nealrigga6969 Ай бұрын

It’s not those immigrants that are the issue. Anyone who comes here legally or for education is fair game. It’s the illegal channel-crossers that we have issues with.

@CriticalCommentatorDrama Ай бұрын

Both

@nealrigga6969 Ай бұрын

@@xander6522legals are fine to me. They’re the ones doing the jobs you don’t want to do. It’s not practical to complete shut our borders mate. Illegals have got to go though, I’ll agree on that

@zjeee Ай бұрын

legal migration is not an issue, illegal is.

@duncanhw Ай бұрын

You're counting tourists as immigrants?

@Nirvashvos Ай бұрын

As someone from the netherlands, its not even about "who" they happen to be. Its simply about space and housing, we dont have any left. Its already such a huge problem at the moment that I have been actively looking for a house anywhere even remotely close to my home town / work for 10 years and still there is nowhere near enough homes unless you can grossly overspend. If we had the space you all welcome, but we simply dont.

@AaronOkeanos Ай бұрын

Not find one ... or just not finding something you can afford? It's not quit the same and a high house price will extend to more empty houses as well. And another argument: Do you really think an asylum seeker has enough money to buy a house? Looks like you overlooked a couple super-obvious things.

@quincyquincy4764 Ай бұрын

Maybe ask your government to help fix the countries these people are fleeing from.

@Nirvashvos Ай бұрын

@@AaronOkeanosany house under 350k is snatched up within moments. Sure I am not rich but I take it asylum seekers will also not be looking for half a million homes, so pressuring the same already tiny market bringing me back to the original point. You cant expect a nation to take a generation of its own people of the board just to make space where there isnt any. Edit - ps: in the netherlands the goverment is required to provide housing within a few years to refugees accepted. So yes, they do put pressure on the market

@AaronOkeanos Ай бұрын

@@Nirvashvos The Netherlands didn't keep up with the boom caused by Brexit. So many new bussinsses formerly in Britain moved there ... and the housing market hasn't kept up.

@ShaktaKash Ай бұрын

More than 80% of dutch jails are migrants from middle east and n. africa

@user-bz5io6ph8w Ай бұрын

Why would countries willing accept potential terrorists who refuse to adopt the native culture is beyond me. Good the Dutch are standing up!

@TheSegert Ай бұрын

Hey dutchie here, Its not even about terrorism here. Was we are spared them mostly. Its more about the strain on our welfare state. The fact that they dont want to integrate and just make their own ghettos. The fact that they are angry about our old traditions like sinterklaas. And want it banned. The fact that they are forcing their wills upon us. At a certain point you just say. no.

@mussajavdan8203 Ай бұрын

@NicolasHaufe Ай бұрын

@@harlowidacry more Hussein

@solivagant1170 Ай бұрын

Let’s be real -- you’re not worried about "potential terrorists" or culture. You just want to keep non-whites out, plain and simple. Hiding behind the guise of security doesn’t change that. If you were genuinely concerned about safety or integration, you’d talk about actual solutions, not blanket bans on entire groups of people.

@PalmTheFirst Ай бұрын

My government is far right now, since when did that happen?

@TheSegert Ай бұрын

Since they are getting relabeled by media

@weiserwolf580 Ай бұрын

i think you prefer them to be called nationalist socialist, no?

@PalmTheFirst Ай бұрын

@@weiserwolf580 Our government is far from national socialist, what are you on about?

@NicolasHaufe Ай бұрын

@@PalmTheFirstHe wants His daughter to get r-worded Just ignore him

@longiusaescius2537 Ай бұрын

@weiserwolf580 ok alman

@inbb510 Ай бұрын

And people still say EU federalism is possible...

@mrbad3036 Ай бұрын

It is, with major reforms.

@Polyfron Ай бұрын

@@mrbad3036 And major cultural change. Europeans need to actually be willing to go through those reforms, but I doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon.

@SimonMester Ай бұрын

Yeah not gonna happen. I know a large amount of people would get very active politically if that was proposed just to oppose it. Myself included. @@Polyfron

@fungo6631 Ай бұрын

It very much is possible, but you'd have to cleanse the EU from Slavs as they're an economic burden to the EU, unless they assimilate.

@solivagant1170 Ай бұрын

Yup, it’s practically impossible. In theory, it sounds plausible, but in reality, there’s neither the political nor cultural cohesion necessary for EU federalism to take shape. Immigration alone is so divisive that some countries are openly rejecting the rules and refusing to pay the fines. If something as crucial as migration policy can’t unite the bloc, the idea of full federalism seems far-fetched at best.

@hugolopes4286 Ай бұрын

I am not a native English speaker, but I am disappointed by your journalistic hypocrisy. There is a big distinction between "irregular" and "illegal". I hope you do better instead of pandering the narrative.

@Neophitos_O_Egkleistos Ай бұрын

Both are bad lol. You don’t understand Muslims.

@hugolopes4286 Ай бұрын

@Neophitos_O_Egkleistos the immigration crisis isn't even really about Muslims. The EU dragged their feet about regulation for immigration for years now. The situation kept escalating, and it feels like it's reaching a breaking point soon. There is so much more to say, but it is all meaningless as long as those in charge don't take action.

@darthkek1953 Ай бұрын

"There is a big distinction between "irregular" and "illegal"." What is this big distinction?

@CatiosPizza Ай бұрын

I looked it up on the EU website they say illegal and irregular migration are the same.

@Neophitos_O_Egkleistos Ай бұрын

@@hugolopes4286 You are right about the beuocratic inaction but this may have something to do with certain parts of Western European voter bases that have taken a liking to immigrants. But i stand firm on the idea that the problem has a lot to do with Islam. Islam is a very non compromising ideology, in that they would negotiate with you but to the extent that they can push you into the corner, it is literally their religious law, defined clearly with the concepts of Dawah and Jihad. And wouldn’t you mind it, most non European immigrants flowing into the EU are Muslims, and when you take them in they aren’t just going to drop their values and assimilate they would just pretend to at most and very few would do otherwise. If you mean, taking control of the situation early on before they could set up shop in our countries in the first place, when you said that the EU has been dragging their feet about implementing new legislation, i agree. But my previous point about certain semi-libertarian and “empathetic” cultural understandings of the (Western) European voter bases (especially those sections that vote in the EU Parliament elections) about certain topics, especially migration might well be the reason why they have been hindered, as the long present insistence on assimilation and rehabilitation instead of prevention and remigration as “at the very least” solutions might well be a symptom of. As one could imagine a leftist “Victor Orban” that would veto every reasonable decision much like the man himself to please his/her own voter base while parading around about European-Christian civilisation meanwhile blocking Military aid to Armenia to please his Turco-Azeri sponsors. The existence of leftist counterpart isn’t too hard to imagine. Not many Europeans really understand Islam, At least those that weren’t on it’s boundaries and were enslaved by it. I am a Greek person of partial Armenian ancestry, my great grandmother survived g*noc!de at the hands of the Turks and lost her whole family, when i look at the Netherlands and see a Turkish lady as the head of a major party in their government, i can imagine that our problem wouldn’t be getting solved anytime in the near future. Polycephaly, with those that scream “sovereignty” and those that demand “refugee rights” about people that would k!ll us in a heartbeat would only drive us further into the abyss. Because we can’t solve this problem alone as tiny ethnostates, but as a pan European struggle, as the problem is far bigger than just immigration.

@jonnialavuo Ай бұрын

Let's just close the borders completely.

@AaronOkeanos Ай бұрын

You cannot prevent immigration. This is the one thing the last years have shown. If you not properly process them you just get more illegal immigration which creates much more issues. Besides our population is shrinking because we produce less than 2.1 children per family to maintain it. We need immigration or new problems appear.

@NicolasHaufe Ай бұрын

@@AaronOkeanosNonsense

@CharlesDuchemin-ip1yf Ай бұрын

deleting all benefits with a delay of 5 years for first comers + 150k € of proven money on a blocked account could solve many things + making family reunification next to impossible would solve a lot of things.

@nosharesnogains8505 Ай бұрын

TLDRs ironic liberal use of the terms "Irregular migrants" and "fAr RighT". At this point, they might as well act as an extension to The Guardian or the BBC.

@ShaktaKash Ай бұрын

They are part of the problem.

@plasmacannon1198 Ай бұрын

I mean the PVV & Fidesz, AfD ARE far right. And saying otherwise just makes you sound like Fascist. And I say this as someone who is Centre right. Don’t join cults kids

@jonathan2847 Ай бұрын

@@plasmacannon1198 What does "far right" mean to you?

@cia5649 Ай бұрын

@@jonathan2847 seeing as a afd candidate said that some ss soldiers didnt do anything wrong how about that?

@jonathan2847 Ай бұрын

@@cia5649 If this is your definition of far right, then the majority of Japanese politicians are far right. Would you agree with this?

@Ugapiku Ай бұрын

Oh so now that it's not just Hungary that wants to full stop migration you start discussion? Same with other issues...

@History23-bp7kb Ай бұрын

Of course, because it has been shown that Hungary has broken the EU charter after they started talks with Putin and claiming to be speaking on behalf of the EU, a pretty irresponsible move given the stance that the EU has on Russia. Secondly, Hungary gets more money out of the EU than it gives into it, so it’s not a country that contributes much anyway. Thirdly, there have been investigations into Orban’s corruption allegations, including the EU freezing millions of euros worth of his assets. Such a country should not really be trusted.

@Mosern1977 Ай бұрын

Unfortenately this is a thing. its not what is being said, but who says it, that matters.

@Ryzanu Ай бұрын

As an Irish man that nearly cried for my countries future after our traitorous government opted us into this ridiculous migration pact even though we had a previously voted for opt out clause that Denmark (rightly so) opted out of, hearing that this migration pact may not go ahead is music to my ears.

@91chaves Ай бұрын

There is no such things irregular migrants. You mean illegal.

@vetinaris1297 Ай бұрын

A person cannot be illegal. There is no such thing as an illegal migrant. Only a migrant who entered illegally. The fascists changed the language a decade ago. This is the correct language. Sorry it hurts your feelings.

@91chaves Ай бұрын

@@vetinaris1297 dafuq

@BornKafir Ай бұрын

@@vetinaris1297 So delusional. People who you're "protecting" with such statements will gladly put you in a difficult spot as soon as they have the upper hand. Life a is complicated and open borders can't work under the welfare state. Cutthroat capitalism can't work and the biggest recipient of subsidies, bailouts and free money are the corporations and the already wealthy. Don't do these infantile rants about how a person cannot be illegal. When they say illegals, they're referring to the actions of the person.

@Chadrick2 Ай бұрын

@@vetinaris1297 Literally answered your own question, a migrant who entered illegally is a illegal immigrant, thank you.

@vetinaris1297 Ай бұрын

@Aryanchadrick oh dear. Not only do you not understand the difference or why a person cannot be illegal, only their actions, but now you also literally show you don't understand the word literally either. Thoughts and prayers that you learn distinctions and definitions.

@michaelratynski1980 Ай бұрын

It’s insane how you don’t mention the fact that huge reason as to why Poland shut down the border is because a soldier was literally speared by a migrant

@ShaktaKash Ай бұрын

Handcuffs. Airplane. Parachute.

@diogomm710 Ай бұрын

This HRE iteration is becoming increasingly more HREish

@GuyFiery00pp Ай бұрын

Lol that comparison is actually so appropriate

@binarybridgador2484 Ай бұрын

Did you see that? 42% have ‘cost of living’ as the highest concern. Do you know how bad that is? That is euphemism for “I work all day and I still can’t pay for food or rent”! The higher that percentage gets, the more comparable the conditions for The French Revolution get. Doesn’t the basic survival of the citizenry the chief objective of democracy? edit: grammar

@Jeremiah88 Ай бұрын

immigration is one of the main issue to cost of living crisis imo.

@mabeSc Ай бұрын

Am also thinking the same. This whole situation is starting to resemble the pre-revolutionary Kingdom of France. Where the ruling class lived in a city of their own away from peasants, where the wealth and power was concentrated in a few hands (modern-day billionaires), where both society and social norms were quickly changing and both poverty and inequality were facts of life with a ruling class completely detached from reality. Reform is unavoidable... it's just about the way that is going to be achieved, which is also similar to what happened to monarchies during the revolution. It can happen (relatively) peacefully or extremely violently.

@anonymousperson1771 Ай бұрын

It isnt going to matter what the cost of living is when migrants threaten the future of the citizenry. They also exacerbate those cost of living pressures by taking up resources that belongs to the local people.

@hugoar076 20 күн бұрын

Irregular? Are you serious?

@sewur5034 Ай бұрын

Imagine instead of paying massive cost of immigration and integration the West could focus on improving birthrates. We dont immigrants, we need affordable houses and working industry to get well paying jobs

Ай бұрын

*cost of hostile invasion They've invaded, so this is an invasion.

@diogorodrigues747 Ай бұрын

The problem is that none of those solutions actually work.

@ianbirchfield5124 Ай бұрын

the problem is that solutions to raise birthrates don't work. hungary tried and it did little. also, keep in mind, any system we implement to stimulate the birthrate will apply to both natives and legal immigrants. do you really want to help the already present immigrants make more of themselves?

@sewur5034 Ай бұрын

@@ianbirchfield5124 Well right now EU implements the opposite. Green policies and regulations cause: - more expensive housing - industries moving outside of EU -> less paying jobs - Taxing about ~50% of income if we include all taxes And spending all those taxed money for... promoting DEI?

@TheBooban Ай бұрын

@@ianbirchfield5124 Yes, because the solutions are not very good. You need things like day care in every large company. Import nanny's from cheap countries (temp visa, no right to apply for PR). And of course you can restrict it to native europeans only. But politicians are not brave.

@DuchessandDori 28 күн бұрын

A fixed 20k EUR is not fair either. It doesn't take into consideration the financial inequalities between the member states. 20k EUR means something very different to Luxembourg compared to CEE countries like Hungary, Slovakia etc. Governments, countries don't have money by themselves, it all comes from taxes. In Hungary (based on a quick Google search) the minimum wage is around 500 EUR (with a 400 HUF = 1 EUR exchange rate) while food and everyday products cost the same as in Luxembourg (personal experience). The salaries are nowhere near the Western wages but the EU wants everyone to pay the same amount....ridiculous. I am all for helping the countries most affected by immigration and also making it more even, but this is not the way.

@ajavierb2078 Ай бұрын

Why do you say irregular? Just say illegal. Bad journalism

@ShaktaKash Ай бұрын

He's part of the problem.

@cm-bp4ow Ай бұрын

This channel is cringey and so are most of its viewers. Reading these comments makes me cringe like no other.

@danieldelaney1377 17 күн бұрын

Irregular you mean illegal

@SuperG4ndo Ай бұрын

Europe needs a Wall

@Phyt5 Ай бұрын

No, it doesn’t

@diogorodrigues747 Ай бұрын

Europe already has a wall, it's called the Mediterranean. And it's actually a great wall, otherwise the problem would be much worse.

@erik_havoc Ай бұрын

Europe needs workers, we need immigration to survive

@krisdaschwab912 Ай бұрын

Poland built a wall. It doesn't seem to be working especially well.

@21preend42 Ай бұрын

@@krisdaschwab912 Are you an idiot? it works perfectly well and they stated that themselves, educate yourself.

@charged5164 Ай бұрын

6:17 the Netherlands Government is not far right, the PVV (the winner of the last election) is also not far right.

@dumpmail-xz2qp Ай бұрын

the fall of empire will repeat itself

@misterETIO Ай бұрын

i am 36 and I have been very liberal all my life ... been living in the Netherlands for last 17 years - got t say that the country is going down the drain during lat 7 years ad I glad Europe is waking up!

@DhanuRadha5 Ай бұрын

As a foreign student studying in Europe who is currently struggling to find a job that will provide sponsorship, it is crazy to me that I have to go through this while asylum seekers can seemingly show up and stay indefinitely. I grinded through uni to get a degree, integrated myself with the society, and am learning the language while a lot irregular migrants refuse to get out of their circles and are yet able to establish themselves in Europe. I understand that many of them are fleeing war torn situations but at the very least make sure they are willing to integrate into western society. We already are held to higher standards as foreigners and unfortunately us who came here legally and try our best are conflated with them.

@FarmerEnvoyXtreme Ай бұрын

Why are you saying Irregular.... It is illegal. State the facts rather than sugar coating or sweatening the actual problem.

@Newbyte Ай бұрын

"Irregular migrants" and "illegal migrants" have distinct meanings. Irregular is the correct term to use in this context.

@notinterested7911 Ай бұрын

Asylum seekers are not illegal, do you know basic english?

@weiserwolf580 Ай бұрын

"irregular" means that they did not enter the country through regular methods (bus, plane, train, in short at a border checkpoint), "illegal" means that they do not have the necessary documents to prove that they have a visa and active residence in the country; these two are different things

@ShaktaKash Ай бұрын

Because he's part of the EU's problem.

@ShamaticWow Ай бұрын

3:57 30,000 re-locations a year is kind of small compared to the millions coming in

@falsevacuum4667 Ай бұрын

It isn't millions every year. Sometimes it's a little over a million in a year, but most often it's in the low hundreds of thousands.

@longiusaescius2537 Ай бұрын

@falsevacuum4667 same thing

@Jacobp-li9fi Ай бұрын

I hate how dishonest TLDR is when it comes to the right-wing calling the Democratic populist conservative parties "far-right"

@NoidoDev 28 күн бұрын

One day it will turn out that they're being financed by Soros or Gates, or "the EU".

@Jeremiah88 Ай бұрын

Just reject them more practical and humane.

@mussajavdan8203 Ай бұрын

@Langharig_Tuig Ай бұрын

Youre really completely discrediting yourselves, once again, by labeling centre-left governments as "far right"... stop it

@aurinqx Ай бұрын

yeah, it’s as absurd as it gets

@duncanhw Ай бұрын

If you think the current Dutch government is centre-left your viewpoint is waaaaaay too far to the right

@Phyt5 Ай бұрын

No, they are far right, in what way are they centre left?

@AdastraRecordings Ай бұрын

"Islam is darkness and Israel is the light", yeh that sounds left of centre.

Ай бұрын

@@duncanhw Is the Dutch government anti-abortion and pro-church? If not, then they are not even right wing.

@yasser7139 Ай бұрын

The issue at hand is about money, business, corporations, and businessmen. Europe will never stop accepting both legal and illegal immigrants because they are essential to the continent. Europe is facing a major challenge that many Europeans don't seem to fully grasp- their lifestyle is under threat. The problem is that there aren't enough workers, and they are not producing enough children. Therefore, immigration, in some form, is the only way forward for Europe to maintain its current way of life. Many Europeans are unhappy with migration, but what alternatives do they have? The European establishment doesn’t truly want to stop illegal immigration. If they really wanted to, they could stop it. But they don’t, because they stand to lose a lot economically. Illegal immigrants present a golden opportunity for businesses. They work in tough conditions, receive low wages, and fill gaps in industries that desperately need workers. For European businesses, this is a huge advantage, which is why illegal immigration persists. The European elites and establishment aren’t concerned about the demographic changes or the challenges that multiculturalism brings. Their primary concern is economic- keeping Europe industrial, competitive, and prosperous. This is why immigration continues. It's not about making ethical or cultural decisions; it's about economics and survival. For example, when Germany accepted hundreds of thousands of immigrants from Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, they were aware of the potential cultural and security challenges. However, the decision was driven by economic necessity. Germany needed workers to keep its industries running, and immigration was the solution. Balancing prosperity and immigration is extremely difficult. While many people argue for legal pathways and merit-based immigration, this won’t solve the deeper issue. A merit-based system would only bring in skilled workers, but many sectors in Europe- such as factories, hotels, and restaurants- need unskilled labor. The problem isn’t a shortage of skilled workers; it’s a shortage of basic workers, and illegal immigrants are filling that gap. Now, I want to make it clear that I am not in favor of illegal immigration, nor do I support it. I’m simply acknowledging the reality. And the reality, to me, is quite clear: Europe does not want to stop illegal immigration.

@thomasaquinas1457 Ай бұрын

Illegal immigration, irregular is just a euphemism.

@lachlanchester8142 Ай бұрын

No you’re just stupid

@Marc_lux Ай бұрын

"The EU will not survive this" How often have I heard this... lots of people just lack self awareness.

@makerl1fe388 Ай бұрын

I fully support this movement. It’s the European Union, not the world union. Importing neanthertals downgrades the society, doesn’t upgrade it. Migration is adaptation, can’t adapt, eject.

@Sterren-ws6jc Ай бұрын

This migration pact fixes nothing. The EU needs to boost funding for Frontex 10-fold. Also give Frontex more rights, like being able to use live munition, apply pushback, etc. And deport migrants, who are already in the EU, to third-party countries that are starving for money and will do anything to get that money, Afghanistan or Madagascar come to mind.

@mikegaskin5542 Ай бұрын

Live munitions will never fly but speedy deportations might

@tubetotto Ай бұрын

May I call shoplifting an 'irregular shopping'? 😅😅😅

@xena2559 Ай бұрын

😂 yep

@kiradead666 Ай бұрын

the Netherlands is west European not Central European

@hasselnttper3730 Ай бұрын

No, it's in Antarctica. Funny how bongers and yankies NEVER know geography lol.

@Napoleon_Blownapart Ай бұрын

It does seem democracy is a greater threat to the EU institutions and bureaucrats as times pass. You are right about that at the end of the video.

@lightningstrike5024 Ай бұрын

we are actually living through another 1933

@nightshadowend Ай бұрын

As a German, do we really have to choose AFD to stop this madness? Like really? Are you really gonna push us that far?

@ruiqianren9405 Ай бұрын

How will Europe de-🥷-rize itself?

@hoi-polloi1863 Ай бұрын

The key to this whole issue is one question... Who decides who gets to immigrate; the countries, or the immigrants? That is, do countries have the right to limit immigration, or are they compelled to accept everyone? That is the question the EU keeps dancing around.

@doctorwrm Ай бұрын

The pact clearly states that people without the right to asylum are detained at the border. Only people with reasonable claims to asylum get assigned to a country while they await their asylum decision.

@jpvansplunder Ай бұрын

“fAr RiGhT”

@lightningstrike5024 Ай бұрын

right wingers when a political party that wants to stop immigration, increase nationalism, defund social programs, support fascist countries, decrease womens rights and reinstall conscription gets called "far right":

@plasmacannon1198 Ай бұрын

I mean AfD, PVV & Fidesz ARE far right. And saying otherwise is just crazy and makes you sound like a NSDAP sympathiser. And I say this as someone who’s centre right. You can be far right but at least stand by it

@to101md Ай бұрын

@@plasmacannon1198Even under the left/right auth/lib labelling, the NSDAP isn’t actually that far to the right. (Hyper authoritarian though) The fact concessions were given to the German people like women being granted the right to no-fault divorce inherently reduces the hierarchy. Does this outshine the atrocities committed by the third reich? No! It’s just an acknowledgment that there are systems much more “far right”. My belief (under that paradigm) is the furthest right/auth you can go is an absolute monarchy. No one has any rights & the monarch’s word is absolute. Could you criticise the leader of the NSDAP? No. Did he give out rights/privileges to people? Yes. Therefore I believe calling that party far-right is false.

@solivagant1170 Ай бұрын

Guessing you're one of them?

@jpvansplunder Ай бұрын

@@solivagant1170 No, I didnt vote for any of the so called "far right" parties

@almeidaserra Ай бұрын

The Netherlands does not have a "far right" government, not even remotely. This far left channel should perhaps consider reexamining its journalistic strandards

@arturmo1046 Ай бұрын

ahh...I am a conservative German living in the netherlands. You have a very far right leading party. And in general is the Netherlands more conservative then Germany. But I you live for decades under conservative ruling you get a bit dull and blind towards "right" and "far right"

@almeidaserra Ай бұрын

maybe you should look up both the definitions of "far right" as well as conservative. A country with an income tax of 49,5% (and higher on items such as bonuses or holiday allowance), wealth tax (starting just over 70K Eur in assets) and tax on unrealized gains, socialized education and healthcare, some of the stringiest anti discrimination laws in the world, where a full time worker earns more than a part time worker after receiving the " toeslagen" (social transfers), and about a thirds of its inhabitants are from foreign origin (1st and 2nd generation)is actually a leftist country. on a right wing country you would have a low rate flat tax and everything would be privatized, welfare woudln't exist and borders would be closed.

@parmentier7457 Ай бұрын

In the Netherlands, it is not about the hatred of migrants per se, but more about the shortage on the housing market. In this case, it is about social housing for the lower class and young people. Social housing in the Netherlands has become scarcer and the rent is between 700 and 800 euros. The waiting times in the big cities are between 10 and 15 years for social housing. So many adults still live with their parents, have a relationship but cannot start a family, or move far outside the Randstad about 100 km from their parental home and job. According to the current law, which Wilders also wants to abolish, asylum seekers with a residence status get priority for social housing. So a Syrian asylum seeker comes to the Netherlands in 2021 and gets social housing in 2024. The municipality also pays their rent and benefits. After that the rest of Syrian family member from abroad fly over to the Netherlands. So a Dutch person who also wants to start a family living in the neighbourhood who has been applying for the same house for more than 10 years feels passed over. The housing shortage started in 2010 when they stopped building new homes due to the financial crisis. At the moment the government wants to build 100,000 new homes each year. However, this is not possible due to a shortage of skilled workers, architects, expensive materials and stricter climate legislation.

@TheDazert Ай бұрын

Small error; Dublin regs center on the country where the first application for asylum is lodged and not the first country where the migrants arrive. There is however a pressure on migrants to file for asylum but only when they are detained as illegal migrants. In that instance they can only file for asylum or else be deported. Some migrants however go quite far without being noticed and detained to countries like the Netherlands, although it is a very small portion ofcourse.

@falsevacuum4667 Ай бұрын

The New Pact on Migration has already fully passed the Parliament and Council. It is a set of four pieces of legislation, not a treaty, so there is no potential for opting out. Even if such an opt out were negotiable, it would only be available during the process of amending the legislation. That time has long passed. The fact is that the New Pact on Migration is already law and noncompliance will lead to infringement procedures at the ECJ. Seriously, the idea that countries can neither accept a share of the migrant burden nor financially support the overburdened frontier states is absurd. The fact is that they will try to weasel their way out of paying financial support and they will fail. This is a necessary policy for the EU as a whole but especially southern states.

@Menelvagorothar Ай бұрын

Exactly, nobody ditched it nor has the power to do so at this point. The whole idea to scrap the thing that has been the result of years of negotiations before it actually enters into force is absurd too. It's like someone really does not want the EU to tackle the issue in order to descend into chaos as soon as possible.

@longiusaescius2537 Ай бұрын

Importing infinite net drains is absurd actually

@falsevacuum4667 Ай бұрын

@@longiusaescius2537 Studies show that immigrants are net positive for society, if not immediately then within a generation.

@YouWille Ай бұрын

Here’s a revised version, including your additional concerns: Let us reconsider the meaning of the word "politician." A politician is an individual affiliated with a registered private organization, typically without personal indemnity insurance. Their organization, also uninsured, campaigns for the right to manage taxpayer resources and public offices during their mandate, often without presenting a publicly available budget plan approved by financial and legal regulatory bodies. Despite these gaps in accountability, politicians bear no direct responsibility under the government identity they claim to represent, purporting to lead society toward a better future-or, in some cases, into submission. What’s more concerning is that governments-supposedly transparent and legally distinct entities with their own financial and operational resources-have become little more than cash cows for these political parties. These parties misleadingly present themselves as governments, influencing millions, igniting conflicts, and-without proper oversight-taking out loans that burden citizens to cover the damage caused by their policies to the local and global economy. Worse still, political parties frequently rely on rolling budgets rather than pre-designed financial plans, allowing them to manipulate the system. This lack of foresight leaves future governments or administrations vulnerable, enabling political leaders to blackmail opponents or the public in the event of unfavorable election outcomes, all while presenting such tactics as proof of their competence. Moreover, an increasingly alarming trend has emerged: political parties and registered entities hire media outlets and influencers to align with them, thus amplifying their control over taxpayers locally and globally. Through strategic manipulation of public opinion, they force citizens into a dichotomy-either servitude to their agenda or submission in exchange for peace and safety. This raises a critical question: is it acceptable for these entities to exploit the media to strengthen their influence, or should they be charged and penalized for the harm they inflict on state policies and economies? These practices not only undermine democracy but also foster a dangerous environment of coercion, where citizens are pressured into compliance rather than offered genuine security or progress. Ultimately, the fundamental question remains: what do taxpayers need for a more stable and secure future for themselves and their families? Should we continue to tolerate these power-hungry opportunists, who lack true foresight, or should we demand licensed public servants-guided by moral principles-who allocate resources based on genuine need, without bias or manipulation? The time has come to hold these political entities accountable for the economic and social harm they cause, ensuring they are not immune from the consequences of their actions.

@harrisonbergeron9746 Ай бұрын

harsh but fair...

@YouWille Ай бұрын

Key Components of AI-Assisted Governance: 1. EyeDirect+ for Truth Measurement: Lie detection and truth validation through AI (such as using EyeDirect+) could assist in judicial and legal matters, where the AI analyzes body language, facial expressions, and verbal cues. Combined with access to global data, this would allow for more accurate, unbiased decision-making in areas like courtroom trials, financial auditing, and policy development. The AI system could cross-reference an individual's statements with social, financial, and legal records to ensure that decisions are based on verified information. This would reduce fraud and corruption, as deceptive behaviors would be immediately detected and reported. 2. Global Network and Databases: The system you’re describing could be a global repository of information that includes real-time financial markets, legal precedents, social trends, climate data, and scientific research. AI would be able to synthesize this information, ensuring decisions are made in light of the most current, valid data, reducing human error caused by ignorance or bias. Data validation would be crucial. Since some data (such as certain scientific or social studies) is not publicly available, AI could have access to private and restricted datasets, giving decision-makers a more complete view of the context they're working within. 3. Social, Financial, and Legal Climates: AI would be able to factor in social dynamics, financial conditions, and legal frameworks from both domestic and international databases. For instance, if a government is making an economic policy decision, the AI can analyze the global economy, the local financial situation, historical data, and projections, offering suggestions that are evidence-based and future-oriented. This could also extend to legal rulings, where AI assists in providing legal precedents, ensuring consistency in judgments, and minimizing subjective biases in court decisions. 4. Scientific Data: AI can ensure that decisions are in line with modern scientific understanding. For example, in areas like public health, climate change, or infrastructure projects, AI could rely on the latest scientific studies and modeling techniques to provide data-driven recommendations. These recommendations could be tested and verified in real-time but made available to the public only once confirmed for accuracy and safety. Feasibility and Implementation: 1. AI as a Decision Support System: Rather than making the AI the decision-maker, it would serve as a support system, providing data-backed insights to human leaders. For example, in financial planning, AI could optimize the allocation of public funds based on current economic indicators, recommending strategies to avoid deficits or to boost growth. In legal systems, AI could suggest appropriate rulings based on historical case law and ethical guidelines but leave the final decision to a human judge. The AI could also analyze the long-term consequences of these rulings, offering suggestions to refine legal frameworks. 2. Costs and Investments: The costs would still be significant, particularly in developing the infrastructure to support such an AI system. However, they may be lower than a fully autonomous AI government because human oversight remains. Investments would go into: Data integration from multiple sectors (financial, legal, social, scientific) Developing secure, real-time processing systems capable of managing large volumes of information. Establishing cybersecurity frameworks to protect the system from tampering or corruption. Ongoing training of AI models to adapt to new data and situations, with continuous learning built into the system. 3. Return on Investment: Improved Decision Quality: With AI providing real-time data and analysis, human leaders would make more informed decisions, reducing the likelihood of costly mistakes or inefficient policies. This could lead to better resource allocation, higher economic growth, and more effective social policies. Reduced Corruption: By monitoring actions, AI would help reduce opportunities for corruption, as any suspicious actions would be flagged immediately. This increases public trust and ensures that taxpayer money is used more effectively. Increased Efficiency: Decision-making processes would become faster, more consistent, and better aligned with long-term national goals. The AI can take over routine tasks, allowing human leaders to focus on complex issues that require empathy and nuanced judgment. 4. Challenges: Ethical Concerns: Decisions in certain areas require a deep understanding of moral principles, which AI may struggle to comprehend. Human oversight is essential here. Resistance: Implementing such a system might meet resistance from those in power, as AI's ability to expose corruption and reduce human influence could threaten established hierarchies. Ensuring public support and transparency in the AI's processes will be key to its acceptance. Bias in Data: The AI system would need careful programming to avoid replicating the biases present in historical or incomplete data. Regular audits would be necessary to ensure the system’s fairness. Conclusion: The Path Forward The AI system you propose would act as a guardian of fairness, providing guidance, accountability, and oversight while still leaving final authority in human hands. This hybrid model would allow for a balance of technology and humanity in governance, ensuring that decisions are made based on objective evidence and ethical consideration. The system's costs would be significant, but the long-term benefits-such as reduced corruption, better resource management, and more transparent decision-making-would likely outweigh the initial investment. By integrating AI into governance as a trusted advisor rather than a ruler, we could usher in a future where leaders are better informed, less corrupt, and more responsive to the needs of society. Public trust and transparency would be key to the system's success, but it could become a model for ethical, data-driven governance worldwide if implemented correctly.

@Cool_Goose Ай бұрын

Wtf is iregullar man 🤦I'm tempted to be an non follower.

@solivagant1170 Ай бұрын

This comment section is a masterclass in oversimplification and scapegoating. Instead of addressing real issues like economic stagnation, demographic decline, and political mismanagement, it's full of fallacies and finger-pointing at migrants as the root of all problems. From ignoring Europe’s role in creating global instability to conflating "irregular" with "illegal," these arguments dodge real solutions in favor of easy blame. If people spent half as much time critically thinking as they do ranting, maybe we’d get somewhere.

@jordangrigorov Ай бұрын

Europe for Europeans ONLY

@rickyspanish4792 Ай бұрын

Wtf is wrong with all you people.. or is this some influx of racist AI bots

@axegas76 Ай бұрын

Belgium is horrible, I can't imagine how bad France is

@akwasi_bg Ай бұрын

why do you use africans for “irregular” migration and middle easterners for asylum seekers?

@blueodum Ай бұрын

Because Syrians are usually fleeing a war zone, whereas many Africans are not.

@Pirate222-ho1kk Ай бұрын

Im confused, whats the difference betweenban Illegal and Iregular migrant? Is there so real difference between those two term or is it something like how shell shock turned into PTSD or how lies turned into disinformation?

@Holy-Tiramisu Ай бұрын

why is everyone mad at them saying irregulars immigrants ? it's true, they are irregular immigrants. a lot of them are also illegal immigrants but saying irregular isn't wrong

@longiusaescius2537 Ай бұрын

@Holy-Tiramisu Same difference

@reiudfgq3vrh34ur Ай бұрын

Cause its using euphemistic language illegal is illegal end of

@AurediumRiptide Ай бұрын

Truth be told (as a Dutchie); this was to be expected. There now is a slimmed down version of migration mitigation planned. But feelings for the current ruling parties are cooling I think; they are taking some non-migrations decisions that are probably not popular with many people. Like cutting funding of education and care.

@ohwhatworld5851 Ай бұрын

Cowards. Cherry picking policies they like and rejecting ones they don't. Say what you want about the UK and Brexit but at least they had the guts to just leave.

@philipen65888 Ай бұрын

The point you're making about Brexit isn't about whether there was the courage to execute it, but rather that it represents an example of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater"-addressing the symptoms without considering the deeper issues that fueled the movement. In fact, since you brought up the concept of "guts," the refusal to confront the harsh consequences of Brexit, while failing to address the root problems in any substantial way, shows a lack of courage. This applies not only to your stance but also to parts of the British population that deny the reality of the situation.

@andrewdunbar828 Ай бұрын

Have the asylum seekers not heard how wonderful life in Russia is?

@stevenschwartz-vf2lg Ай бұрын

I don’t know why they don’t want to go to the worker’s paradise, Russia. Russia is looking for bodies. Instant citizenship. Who could want more? I bet Putin would love to give them a “safe space”. And no problem with employment. An instant job with fully paid travel benefits to Ukraine.

@betweeneurope88888 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@ShaktaKash Ай бұрын

Legals have ID. No ID = illegal.

@ex2tt7yaa2vy9dyhvw5u Ай бұрын

On one hand, you call it "irregular migration" and you refuse to say "illegal migration". On the other hand, you stress on "far right government" when you don't have to. Are you biased?

@eeddie25 Ай бұрын

Yes. They all are

@Pepek94 7 күн бұрын

So good, that Hungarian PM Viktor Orban appealed so-called Migration Pact to EUCJ.

@philipen65888 Ай бұрын

At this stage, it is not about the degree of affinity each nation has with right-wing views, but rather a matter of common sense or even an existential issue for some countries.

@NeistH2o Ай бұрын

“existential”… while you re scared of poor people seeking a better life, russia is spending all it can on his military and yet most people think migrants are our biggest problem, oh yes russia is sending us migrants exactly for that reason, but yeah i m probably crazy right