Neuroscience Meets Psychology | Dr. Andrew Huberman | EP 296

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Andrew Huberman discuss neurology, the way humans and animals react to specific stimuli, and how this knowledge can be utilized for personal growth.
Dr. Andrew Huberman is a neuroscientist, and tenured professor in the department of neurobiology at the Stanford University School of Medicine. He runs the Huberman Lab, which has made significant contributions to the fields of brain development, brain function and neural plasticity. Dr. Huberman’s most recent work revolves around the influence of vision and respiration on human performance and brain states such as fear and courage. In 2017, he was chosen to receive the Cogan award, which is awarded to the scientist making the most significant discoveries in the study of vision. Work from the Huberman Laboratory has been published in top journals including Nature, Science, and Cell and has been featured in TIME, BBC, Scientific American, Discover, and other top media outlets. In 2021, Dr. Huberman launched the Huberman Lab Podcast, and has since grown to over 1.5 million subscribers.
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(0:00) Coming Up
(0:57) Intro
(3:18) Where anxiety stems from
(11:57) Flipping the autonomic response
(23:10) Power of the prefrontal cortex
(30:00) Accessing our alternate selves
(36:25) When you stimulate the Insular cortex
(42:08) The one true world currency
(46:38) Dopamine’s pleasure derives from anticipation
(50:10) Depressive cascades
(54:12) Assess errors by state, not trait
(1:01:45) Dopamine chases outer stimuli
(1:04:13) Can new stimuli rewrite our neural pathways?
(1:09:27) Manifesting and the dopamine cycle
(1:15:59) Adrenaline, micro-narratives
(1:20:33) Sustained attention and reward
(1:27:03) Zone of proximal development
(1:32:23) Resisting the easy dopamine hit, avoiding addiction
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[@hubermanlab]

Thank you Dr Peterson (& team) for hosting me to discuss the neuroscience of dopamine regulation, habit and rule setting, decision making & more. Grateful for your many insights and questions!

[@adammclaughlin9666]

Great interview

[@michaelsmith483]

Very well done sir. glad you guys could get together

[@vibez5847]

You two hosted an absolutely incredible discussion!

[@SummumBonum.]

It would be nice if you wouldn't give credibility to this fraud. I thought you were one of those holding out on principle. I thought you might be the alternative to this man. Damn.. my dopamine levels just bottomed out.

[@itamar.j.rachailovich]

Thank you Dr Huberman

[@brandonmcswain837]

What a time to live when this level of conversation is freely obtainable with the click of a button. Thankful

[@jessicadelores2022]

I know right!! Love this ❤ I’m about 26 minutes in

[@Deggodog]

Love it love it love it❤

[@careyjamesmajeski3203]

Exactly. It’s so easy to learn and yet idiocy is widespread. If you took someone out of the seventeenth century and showed them the internet, they’d be a billionaire in ten years.

[@shelleyannwalters2375]

That's the truth. We are very fortunate 😊

[@Dutchenter]

True! I'm trying to collect as much usefull information as possible into my brain, while my life is temporarily delayed due to depression... maybe should call it social/emotional burned-out. Everything has advantages & disadvantages. I learn a lot during my lifebreak, so why people tread it always as something negative? Taking my rest, recover, learn and expanding my brain with valuable information.... And this all while having a depression. Free and just one click away for everyone interested its a bless ❤

[@future_beat]

The duo completed each other like a software engineer and a hardware engineer. Amazing!

[@Ezio11GB]

perfect analogy

[@markwu8608]

love this analogy

[@aniccadance13]

@future_beat Best comment on YT ever❤️

[@wendtfamily1139]

Intelligence is so attractive. And I love how both of them break down their ideas in a way that the average person can learn, too.

[@branchcovidian754]

One thing I hope you and others understand. None of us here are _average._

[@chloevaillant9430]

@@branchcovidian754 I understand your point of view but from experience it's a harmful way of seeing things. Average means all kind of different things, but when it comes to intelligence humility is key to learning among other things. Fortunately or not, having above average intelligence doesn't equal being a good person, and, more often than we might think, being able to conceptualize complex things can lead further away from truth rather than close to it.

[@yeid44]

@@chloevaillant9430 "being able to conceptualize complex things can lead further away from truth rather than close to it". Beautiful

[@branchcovidian754]

@@chloevaillant9430 I never implied "good or bad." Empirical observation is entirely separate from morals.

[@mingus445_gaming]

@@chloevaillant9430 please marry me chloe

[@AfterSkool]

Wow…my two favorite professors.

[@yodamaster757]

Right!

[@cecilcharlesofficial]

Any favorite amateur fessors?

[@darbrad3952]

love your vids After Skool. always good reminders to stay on the straight and narrow

[@Jeff-lg5hb]

Wow! It's my favourite educational KZbin channel commenting on a podcast episode of my two favourite podcasters. I can't handle this crossover.

[@Tucciversity]

Did not expect this combo!!

[@gabrielgaranas]

Finally, neuroscience meets psychology and philosophy. From Dr. Huberman and Dr. Peterson no less!!

[@j.l.m.6862]

Two most excellent guys, in my estimation.

[@snakejazz]

Don't forget Dr JP has his own neuroscience study experience as well

[@tadeolho3634]

Next: JP and David goggins

[@jamienorman6467]

dr leaf is neuroscience and psychology She’s taught me a lot. She def drops a lot of wisdom and game changing knowledge. Love to see JP and Dr Leaf have a chat… about literally ANYTHING AT ALL. Thankful for them being my “interweb mom and dad”. 😂 Really, tho. Can we make that happen?

[@shooterbo1228]

Mf knows his neurochemisry too, he follows and extrapolates off of his points perfectly

[@ambition112]

3:05: 💡 The autonomic nervous system controls automatic bodily functions and can be thought of as a seesaw between alertness and calmness. 10:23: 🧠 The left dorsolateral prefrontal cortex and the insula are critical areas of the brain responsible for translating bodily signals into curiosity/exploration or anxiety. 19:33: :brain: The prefrontal cortex generates potential abstract patterns of action in order to assess and implement them before they occur. 29:47: 🧠 The prefrontal cortex allows for rule-changing and generating alternative selves, which can suppress the physiological response to imagine different outcomes. 38:54: ✨ The dopamine system plays a crucial role in the brain's response to fear and confrontation, driving motivation and positive reinforcement. 48:11: 💡 Anticipation of reward activates dopamine, but if the reward doesn't manifest, it can lead to disappointment and pain. 57:07: 🧠 Discussion on the balance between errors as indicators of character flaws and the importance of emphasizing errors as due to state not trait. 1:06:41: ✨ Engaging in activities related to valued goals can activate the dopamine system, leading to increased neuroplasticity and better learning. 1:16:11: ✨ Completing small tasks can activate the dopaminergic circuit, increase confidence and energy, and amplify the ability to think into the future. 1:25:08: 🧠 The dopamine system is responsible for experiencing pleasure and maintaining motivation to achieve rewards through marking intermediary steps with pleasure markers. 1:34:32: 💡 Dr. Huberman discusses the effects of drugs, pornography, and the dopamine system on behavior and health. Recap by Tammy AI with useful time stamps

[@zoesharpe3723]

😊

[@zoesharpe3723]

😊

[@zoesharpe3723]

😊❤😊

[@cn-cx6ce]

👍👍👍

[@ibo1137]

Thank you sir!

[@Footie4ever]

These are 2 people that knows exactly what they’re talking about, how they articulate it perfectly, and the perfect example of a professional in their own field.

[@RobertMorgan]

The true mark of professionals like this is watching them reveal a fact or information in conversation, and see the other synthesize that point with their own knowledge and experience and go a new way. It's a conversation where the finished product is more than the sum of the parts.

[@colekelly7316]

@@RobertMorgan that was worded beautifully

[@dizont]

Yep, Peterson really should stick to academia, he is so much better at that

[@dizont]

@@nsfwCharlie so agree, most comments you see people praising personalities, and very few people actually DISCUSS the themes of the podcast, which makes it no different than people blindly following their gods and shit

[@adleor137]

@@dizont dear, just for your information... if one has a non-praising comment, it is just not excepted... forget about discussions, with Peterson's narrow-mindedness, he starts to cry, if and when he feels attacked, which is very often😂

[@PHIllip324]

It's like watching a conversation between a swordsmith and a swordfighter. This is quite possibly the coolest podcast Jordan has done so far. We definitely beed more episodes with Dr. Huberman.

[@miltonmonster]

Dope analogy Brah!

[@deltagolf1015]

😂 This comparison gave me goosebumps 😂

[@theemperiumofkek1362]

blacksmith/swordsman. L E A R N E N G L I S H

[@orougami1672]

@@theemperiumofkek1362 learn to chill

[@theemperiumofkek1362]

@@orougami1672 i am most chillumed

[@jasongravely7217]

Please do a part 2 and 3 and 4!! What a time to be alive. Between these two teaching on KZbin, my life has changed so much in 3 years. I’m realizing the behavior changes I’ve adopted come directly from what they teach consistently and I’m only just beginning. Thank you both!

[@sonyw75e4]

Ikr. I've watched , read, followed several self help and pdp books, but i forget the teachings after a while. But These 2 are the only that have stuck with me.

[@JoyAdebambo]

Right

[@tulinbeyduz920]

what’s been the most significant change

[@daedra40]

Agreed!

[@injapan33]

You are so right, sir! We don't need to be slaves to our minds. We are capable of so much more. It's a long process but more than worth it.

[@Deggodog]

It is so refreshing to see two full grown adult men have a conversation and learn from one another

[@TheKiwibirder]

As someone who grew up as a child of an alcoholic, I developed the classic habit of "catastrophizing," or always imagining the worst possible outcome in any situation. I always imagined the worst so that I would never feel disappointed. I was also proactively attempting to exempt myself from the emotional distress that would ensue when something bad happened. ("Oh well, I KNEW that was going to happen...") I now realize that, by trying not to anticipate anything good, I was protecting myself from the truly profound letdown that occurs when an anticipated good does not materialize. Sadly, while it certainly served a purpose, it's a lousy way to live, and a habit that is very difficult to break.

[@Sodabowski]

☹️😢

[@joanaheidenei3920]

thank you for this comment! that just helped me a lot to understand someone I know... I didn't even think about the impact an alcoholic parent could have in this.... for you that maybe was just a small comment, but for me that's just mindblowing... 🙈🙉

[@naomicalian2696]

❤️

[@cletuspzas1]

Been doing that my whole life. I think mine stemmed from childhood trauma, having to deal with adult situations at such a young age. I did not realize that I was doing this until it got worse as I got older and people started bringing it to my attention. I’m a good person to have around because I keep everybody safe but you’re right it is a lousy way to live.

[@user-md5be2mp8h]

Being someone under anxiety treatment I know what you mean

[@mondavou9408]

What a great time to be alive! We get to listen to these two from almost anywhere in the world and its nearly free of cost. We are so lucky.

[@cyrushawkins4234]

Never forget. Everything is free. If you have the knowledge, materials and tools to make it. Why would you pay? Money is a man made design. 🤦‍♂️

[@she_wench9856]

I enjoy your enthusiasm in these troubling times.

[@L.SPARROW58]

The human race has ALWAYS been given EVERYTHING(tools, resources etc)it needs to survive on this planet. Its up to us whether or not we take advantage of said resources TO survive! 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@kpl455]

Could not agree more

[@hewasadragonman8382]

@@cyrushawkins4234 If you're born poor with less than 130iq, you're fked (most of humanity). Nothing is free, unless you're born in the top 0.1%.

[@elainec5333]

You two need to do this again at least once a year if not more. This shared knowledge is what’s needed in education, recreation…life. Much gratitude and appreciation to you both.

[@muhammadmurad4428]

P

[@TheMrVideoaddict]

This needs to be pinned

[@Rudelherz]

I love the mutual respect and appreciation. Real men. Real humble. Real heroes in my eyes. Love the content, too. Thank you.

[@jacobcoro657]

This, among other videos shared by Both Dr. Peterson and Dr Huberman should be a staple in education. Your conversations and intellect have fundamentally changed my life the past 7-9 months. I cannot thank you enough. I hope you both know you are making a difference.

[@alexnioo2679]

Reason why I love Andrew is not only does he go into detail, he understands the multiple education levels of his audience, not everyone is a neuroscientist and Andrew understands that and helps guide us through his knowledge which makes it so much easier to understand. He just words things perfectly

[@lj32920]

I've noticed that, too. But he also knows how to talk with other educated people at the same time. That is, someone like Dr. Peterson, who likes to interrupt, ask questions, offer opinions, and tell about his own experiences, might make a guest feel he is showing his own education and experience and positions, but Dr. Huberman doesn't exhibit any annoyance, but agrees with Dr. Peterson and brings him into the conversation, explaining how he illustrates a point Dr. Huberman is trying to make. Then he makes sure the listeners can understand their discussion. He really is a superior teacher and science popularizer.

[@Rohrfiedel]

i personally think that dr. Peterson does a even better job in that, meaning, putting very complicated things in a few but simple words…thats the art of teaching

[@Iamthatknows]

Yes, I agree that. Because I have got known many things through Andrew Huberman videos. But I personally cannot understand Peterson's words

[@PaperGrape]

Yeah, 2 serious PhDs here strutting their stuff. A real pleasure.

[@jackodonnell3463]

It’s rare to have a conversation be so technically detailed about an abstract concept while being so tangibly actionable and useful in real life. Thank you.

[@kt3184]

Thank you for verbalizing exactly my though on this;)

[@KLOKSLAG1911]

Most people do not even understand this... you have to know a little bit about the human anatomy on the brain if you wanna go forward on this. Also all the 5 brain waves need to be analysed to get a grip upon this.

[@Berlugab]

@@KLOKSLAG1911 but they dont!! All it takes is time. No one should have shame for having to educate themselves on aspects they don’t understand. That’s the benefit of video format, you can pause, research, and return if you really wanted to!

[@betsyc6055]

That’s exactly why his podcast has taken off so fast

[@ryanrobin12]

Thank you as well, Jack.

[@barbararuiz2690]

Two of my favorite professors/podcasters! What an amazing time we live in to have access to this level of teaching online at no cost to us. I am grateful.

[@ACT.PODCAST]

the cost is to act , other than that yes we have an anormous amount of knowledge

[@Tea53mk]

This is absolutely brilliant! I can't believe Canadian government wants to suspend Dr. Peterson license. You can clearly understand from this video alone how fit he is to not only have the license, but he should be honoured for his lectures reaching millions of people around the world and helping them.

[@sarahmurphy-nf4yl]

WELL SAID

[@jennifercrosby7917]

I can't believe that either because it isn't true. Maybe an association of psychologists but certainly not the government.

[@paulk756]

​​@@jennifercrosby7917t the direction of the government. Do you really believe a government (leader/party who opposes Dr Paterson) doesn't hide behind others? Ignorance is bliss....

[@Raghav21456]

Being able to listen to these kind of conversations is truly a blessing

[@mehrangerami187]

I'm gonna have to watch it again. The science they discussed went over my head so clearly I have some more vocabularies to improve up on. They were awesome. 10/14/2022 😃

[@stormgrey1773]

FINALLY! My two favourite intellectuals in the same video. You two together have helped me overcome a brain injury, depression, breakups, family issues, leaving fundamentalism, weight problems, the list goes on... the work you each do independently has greatly aided me in turning my life around, from rock bottom to putting things in order and maintaining an upward spiral. For the love of god, please, keep talking to each other, and hey, why not write something together? It was the combination of your work that helped me most, I needed both sides of the coin. Many thanks to you both and genuine gratitude for your sacrifices.

[@AjSinRag]

Cheers man! I hope you continue on your path to progress.

[@TheFoggye]

Seconded, it is great to hear that an individual can make so much progress in radically changing their lives for the better. I've been struggling with this myself and starting to make a little progress. Cheers to anyone that can do that same.

[@mattbabb.]

My two favorites as well. Christmas came early this year 🎄 🧠

[@jayjaychadoy9226]

What a good optimistic point of view.

[@arianaciuca255]

It is soo empowering to read such incredible life changing decisions you have managed to take, Eric!!! Indeed, this incredible masters of neuroscience and psychology are offering us the tools and comprehension to put all this into action!!! Wishing you continuos growth on each area of your life and may you tune into the ‘gifts’ of life and share it with the world around you 🤍🙏 Wishing you the very best!!

[@DestinyDonald-vc3cm]

Psychedelics are just an amazing discovery. It's quite fascinating how effective they are for depression and stress disorders. Saved my life☆

[@JamesMichael-kh6fk]

​@@JuanMadeline I'm feeling the same way too . I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels#

[@HummersCatherina]

​@@JamesMichael-kh6fk I was having this constant and unbearable anxiety because of university stress. Not until I came cross dr.johnsonshroom, a very intelligent mycologist, He saved my life honestly.

[@kty149]

​@Nickel Jones yes he's dr.johnsonshroom #

[@kty149]

​@Fred Hudson sure, I got mine shipped here in Chicago ●

[@AnitaPhilips]

The trips I've been having with dr.johnsonshroom ☆☆have really helped me a lot , I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have a lot more empathy as well

[@underscoreBails]

one thing I really like about Andrew Huberman is he ALWAYS takes a second to compliment or acknowledge somebody’s experience or expertise, especially when the opposite is more informed than himself in a particular topic

[@danielkulinich4761]

As a medical student applying to psychiatry, this is a goldmine. So relevant, informative, and exciting.

[@fitfirst4468]

It’s Daniel the Pedophile ayeee

[@ashsmart6895]

Are you in residency rn?

[@danielkulinich4761]

@@ashsmart6895 just applied. Interview season!

[@ashsmart6895]

@@danielkulinich4761 thats awesome, man! Wish you the best. what are the pros and cons of going into psych? Im in a biomed program trying to matriculate into a DO program this year

[@danielkulinich4761]

@@ashsmart6895 relatively more pros than cons since I'm going into it.... you intimately interface with human suffering. Also there's lots of exciting research. Cons - will have to sacrifice some of the internal medicine practice. Though a good psychiatrist requires a solid medicine foundation to effectively build a differential and communicate with respective collegues.

[@deion312]

WHAT A MATCHUP!!! I love both of these guys!!

[@nicolehall2177]

Touché!

[@SayelorYT]

I thought the same thing when I got the notification. Never been more excited about a podcast than this one 😂

[@Mitch_De_Jong]

@@SayelorYT same!! I gasped and sent it to a bunch of friends

[@SayelorYT]

@@Mitch_De_Jongmy family Loves Jordan and huberman so I immediately sent it in the family group chat haha 😂😂

[@castillo2k]

@@Mitch_De_Jong oh yig drrs d CV

[@lj32920]

Wow, Dr. Peterson, I wish I had met you in person 30 years ago. I was a female soldier who experienced an event on duty in another country that sent me on this terrible PTSD road that lasted until a couple years ago. A miserable time of flashbacks, nightmares, and sensitivity to other people that kept me more or less a recluse with little human contact for many years. I'm 75 now. Nobody knew what causes PTSD or how to treat it. Or rather they tried all kinds of drugs and remedies that just about killed me. If somebody had talked to you about your clinical experiences, I might have responded positively and had a normal life that included a husband and children. And, you know, shopping or church or other places involving other humans. You must have been an answer to prayer for all kinds of people with uncontrolled fear or recurring unfortunate emotions they couldn't control. What a wonderful contribution to health and science you must have been throughout your career. A good life to look back on. Good for you.

[@spannyval]

I’m sorry to hear you went through that I hope there was some parts to your life that you still got to cherish and enjoy

[@spannyval]

Or some still yet to come ❤

[@krowko]

i finished a bachelor degree in psychology and i'm literally over the moon right now because i could understand most of what the neurologist was talking about. we studied generally every part of psychology during bachelor but neurology always struck me as magical. now i can see it in practice and through the eyes of experts and i'm so grateful to have learnt all this before so i can more deeply engage with this content. thank you dr.peterson for having a great variety of guests with diverse backgrounds to bring us a more holistic learning experience!

[@shoegal7]

Literally over the moon?

[@jaxtonwilliamjaxtonwilliam508]

@@shoegal7 means the person is extremely happy

[@shoegal7]

@@jaxtonwilliamjaxtonwilliam508 I understand what "over the moon" means. It was the use of the word "literally" I was questioning.

[@christopherorick8652]

@@shoegal7obviously, after completing a degree in psychology, they did the only sensible thing, become an astronaut.

[@shoegal7]

@@christopherorick8652 Silly me, I should have realised.😁

[@mattbabb.]

I’ve dreamt of this meeting. The only reason I’m not gonna stop everything I’m doing and give this podcast my full attention for the next 100 minutes is because I need to study so I can become a neuroscientist/clinical psychologist, and join these guys on camera soon after!

[@syncronet]

Yes

[@farkas5572]

Wish you the best on your journey!

[@tskinsplaylists2972]

I'm finishing up my associates and hope to eventually transfer to a university to also study and maybe one day be a psychologist

[@andreagrazianodibenedetto1464]

Good luck Matt!

[@francomenotti191]

rooting for you!

[@JoshJr98]

You can tell Andrew really knows what he's talking about. Every interview I watch he gets more informative

[@ShermanKyle]

True academic in the best sense.

[@allenclark4235]

Because he is also becoming more informed! This is epic.

[@kuroyuri]

Huberman is a great example of what Peterson would have been had he not sold his soul to reactionary politics. Huberman speaks eloquently and from a scientific perspective, only states the facts. Peterson is constantly moralizing, and only offer long winded quips. Huberman's humility in this discussion has me in awe.

[@YokoSanchez]

Thank you and amen!!! Honestly Peterson rattles on ..

[@MDawg-rj6fq]

I would say the same thing before I heard more about how Dr. Peterson. It seemed like he was gearing towards a career into law and politics but decided to pivot into psychology. I do think Dr. Peterson is at his strongest when keeping within the bounds and contexts of psychology. That being said, even his recordings of psychology course lectures were not purely apolitical. His understanding of psychology is also rooted in a nexus of scientific literature, history, philosophy, religion, metaphysics and narrative which makes it harder to divorce from politics. I personally think that his political stances, opinions and call to actions have become more pronounced recently, partially as a consequence of his health and family well-being. He almost lost Tammy to cancer and he himself almost died due to a severe paradoxical reaction to the benzodiazepines he was taking at the time. "By the grace of God" he survived was a summary of his own words. That whole experience probably changed how he viewed life and could have emboldened him to speak more aggressively about what he thinks, not just psychologically but about how things should be run (and therefore politically). I say as well from my experience, it's a pattern of behaviour with older people. Older people have had their run with life, are coming close to the end of their respective careers, don't need to answer to as many people nor explore the same way they did 20 years ago and as such tend to solidify their opinions on things more resolutely. So, I think Dr. P's tumultuous personal circumstances in combination with his age have made him more insistent on what he wants to say, political or not.

[@user-jy2el8rk6h]

Totally agree

[@SliceOLella]

I like Peterson and he has every right to communicate about his interests, opinions and passions. He’s not a one subject pony. I like Huberman too. They’re different people.

[@mariar2081]

I was so engrossed in this interview! I am neither a medical student, psych major or biologist. Just a mom, grandma who found everything that you discussed so important and relevant to our current societal problems today. There is so much to unpack here. I will be listening to this interview again and will be recommending to my 2 daughters. Thank you for this interview. I thank God for your honesty, straightforward approach and deep concern for the truth.

[@sandrachatelain3295]

Not “just a mom,” etc. I’m so pleased to read your response. I also have those creds, plus a masters and years of working with addicts, primarily men. I listen to both of these teachers often and forward their podcasts to others. I agree with you…this one is a must repeat experience.

[@luanneneill2877]

Same here. I'm going to share this with my husband so he can help support my sharing with our kids. This is important info!! Check out Dr. Hubernan's other podcasts. They're excellent with lots of info to share with the younger generation. I find his podcasts fascinating!!

[@bluorion4360]

I highly suggest checking out Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride. She's an amazing woman with incredible knowledge. Check out her Low Cholesterol is Dangerous talk. Simply brilliant !

[@nobrien22]

It is *outstanding*.

[@krismatic_]

@xaozzz I don't mean to suppress your comment here, but to share what I just found on 'NLP': "There is no scientific evidence supporting the claims made by NLP advocates, and it has been called as a pseudoscience.[11][12][13] Scientific reviews have shown that NLP is based on outdated metaphors of for the brain's inner workings, that are inconsistent with current neurological theory and contain numerous factual errors.[10][14] Reviews also found that research that favored NLP contained significant methodological flaws, and that there were three times as many studies of a much higher quality that failed to reproduce the "extraordinary claims" made by Bandler, Grinder, and other NLP practitioners." - Wiki for NLP

[@Jordan-rh5rm]

As a recent neuroscience graduate this conversation was so captivating and ignites that little fire within me for learning

[@Weathermane79]

How did you not know this already? This is stuff taught in med school, right? 🥴

[@Jordan-rh5rm]

@@Weathermane79 yes but we’re normally taught from a purely neuroscience perspective. So it’s interesting hearing Jordan’s points of view from a clinical physiologist standpoint.

[@Weathermane79]

@@Jordan-rh5rm gotcha 👌🏼

[@hercules71185]

@@Jordan-rh5rm also I'm sure hearing information gathered concisely is more optimal than the way schools do it. Plus seeing a psychologists perspective when these topics don't always like each other lol. I'm not a graduate. Hell I've only listened to huberman and a few others. So probably ignorant for the most part. However, I also have about 1000 hours into psychology research as well. But I hope one day I could actually find a way to go back to school. Unfortunately with a career like mine. That's probably never going to happen

[@Jordan-rh5rm]

@@hercules71185 yeah mate you’re right, the way my university taught it was very formal and there wasn’t much of a discussion so we never really appreciated how amazing the brain is until we left university and could reflect. And you’re right sometimes neuroscientists and physiologists don’t always get along lol, it’s usually because they think from different perspectives and both usually put forward different models which are basically the same anyway lol. And don’t give up mate you don’t always need to go back to school to learn about any of this. Most research papers you can read for free using pubmed or web of science. The most important part is that we’re able to learn how deeply fascinating the brain really is and how it affects our everyday encounters with other people. Anyway take care of yourself mate :)

[@ronalddouglas-me8hj]

Whomever idea it was to get these two together for conversation is genius. I love how both admire the other's expertise, genuinely. Great questions asked on both ends. Both these men are a blessing to this realm we live in. 🙏 ♾

[@juanmanuelcamilo1]

I’ve been waiting 16 years to hear this….and didn’t knew. Thank you both from the bottom of my heart.

[@DNFUT-dh7nd]

Can’t describe how excited I am to watch this video. I’ve listed to hundreds of hours of Andrew and Jordan’s content. Such a meeting of the minds. Thank you both for everything you do

[@tracybenson6364]

What a wonderful conversation. Thank you both .

[@scotchbarrel4429]

I heard Peterson was another right wing Qpot, not sure what Hubermans doing on his channel, maybe it might help the right wing Qpots learn about science, help them workout how science applies to pandemics 😂

[@NicoIasFr]

How is your life so far under their influence?

[@StoneDeceiver]

@@scotchbarrel4429 what is a qpot

[@Howdydoody23]

@Scotch Barrel u a scientist, if not your like the majority of us. We have faith in our leaders making correct decisions. History tells me there’s been to many incorrect decisions.

[@Athleticramirez]

THIS COLLABORATION IS MASTERFUL! 🏆

[@xochiltrodriguez428]

I love that Dr. Peterson allows his guest to speak at length without interrupting. Great topic.

[@ro2929]

Two of our most important Gentleman Scholars! Thank you both so very much.

[@Dan_the_Cobbler]

My two favourite intellectuals, combined into one epic episode!

[@PhilosophicalGospelPodcast]

It is impossible to put into language the required words necessary to describe the impact both of these brilliant men have had upon me. Coming home from work and seeing this notification on my computer completely changed my mood. I want to say thank you and express my gratitude to each of you and emphasize how much good you are doing. God Bless.

[@cameroncrowe9505]

You could say your dopaminergic anticipation was low, making the reward of seeing the podcast even higher 🎉

[@idnintel]

I really liked your comment PGP - I will watch this later.

[@AndresGonzalez-sj7mf]

Most of us here are in the same position-Long a awaited. Both of these men bring much value to our lives

[@jamiehoover33]

Same!

[@SpareKingdom]

These two together make the perfect additive duo. Science brought home by psychology = deepened meaning. Thank you so much!

[@jakethehuman7]

I like how respectful, passionate, and knowledgeable this guy is. I don't understand anything but I can appreciate this much

[@johnnyjoevazquez]

We most definitely need a part 2!! Ideally 2 hours long epic discussion between two very intelligent men!

[@cecilcharlesofficial]

on Rogan :)

[@tylerstokka7564]

I am beyond excited to listen to this. Two absolute legends. Both of these men have absolutely changed my life this past year. 🤘❤️

[@DanzigDanne]

Same!

[@Gaofeng]

Ditto!

[@lukeoreillykane3172]

I'll be watching a new podcast by the sound's of things.

[@farukaslan2855]

same

[@NicolaiBuelow]

Same

[@divelostmind]

these two men are SINGLE-HANDEDLY saving all of humanity

[@bullishtitan8223]

I've never seen Jordan speak to someone in a learning state. It's amazing

[@nana298]

Can you please do a part 2? Perhaps part 3 and then some? This mix of psychology and biochemistry/neuroscience is such an excellent pairing for a great conversation. One of my favourites!! Truly enlightening and inspiring. I'm goin through a hard time in life right now and both of you are truly helping me get through it. I know I'm a random guy over a computer screen but thank you so much, both of you.

[@HolyChaoMu]

You're no a random guy friend. You're a hero on a journey, and the world needs your gifts whatever they might be, and however big or small.

[@HolyChaoMu]

There's a book you might enjoy I'm reading right now, "The Hero Within".

[@Bomber411]

Hey random guy over a computer screen... random girl over a computer screen here. You're not alone. Just wanted you to know. 🤍

[@Ruxandra-mr3sp]

Random People , we are all random we are unique so remember we are all on a journey

[@specag31]

Go explore a grocery store tomorrow then write a short story about it.

[@stevenoconnor7364]

It cannot be overstated how incredibly valuable, invaluable even, the content you, Dr Jordan B Peterson and Dr Andrew D Huberman, generate is. I wish I had encountered this wisdom earlier in life - ideally in late high school. Since I cannot turn back the hands of time for myself I can only hope to introduce your content to others who are still at this early stage in life. I would love to share more about a student housing idea that integrates your teachings. How does one reach out to either of you?

[@helicopter_traffic]

You can find their emails. Apparently huberman reads and replies surprisingly often. Peterson is way more famous and harder to reach, but he says he reads a lot of letters as a way to stay in touch with the consequence of his fame, and also he has quite the rooster ego, i say that with love of course

[@dwayne20110521]

Pro 1:1 The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel; Pro 1:2 To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding; Pro 1:3 To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity; Pro 1:4 To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion. Pro 1:5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels: Pro 1:6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings. Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

[@dwayne20110521]

I wish I had encountered this wisdom earlier in life

[@davidellis5240]

I am a retired psychologist working on a revised version of a prior book and am so happy to have found both of these giants on KZbin

[@willofsteel1673]

The meeting of two great minds and a very interesting topic. I just wish Jordan Peterson would not interrupt Andrew Huberman constantly.

[@jimdavidson2582]

These guys really complement each other really well. Peterson with the clinical examples and Huberman with research that explains the why. These guys are two of the most important people on the planet. They have both made a tremendous impact on my life.

[@brage344]

same

[@kenshigo142]

Exactly. They should go down as heroes, legends of our time, sadly the "media" sees it differently.

[@TM-il5oh]

Actually those most important two are your parents

[@kenshigo142]

@@TM-il5oh He said two of the most important and not everyone has the privilege to grow up in a happy family

[@ralihevillagran3904]

@@kenshigo142 I understand this is the case for Peterson. But, why is it for Andrew? Or you were referring only to the former?

[@ulisesgonzalez8968]

The fact this is online free for anyone to listen to is a blessing without compare in the absolute

[@Psych9589]

It may only be me but it is amazing to see the humility in Dr. Peterson to sit there taking notes as if he was in a class learning. It shows that learning is infinite!

[@shasmi93]

Fan. Fucking. Tastic. Whenever I feel like the world has gotten out of control and the internet has ruined everything, it’s podcasts like this. With these two men, putting knowledge out for free to the world. Then I have faith. Then I have courage. Then I have happiness and I am truly grateful to be alive in 2023!

[@houndogjr4290]

Jordan and Andrew having a conversation is of great value 🙌🏼🙏🏼

[@nenmaster5218]

Seen "...A Brief Look at Peterson - SOME MORE NEWS"? A Video that makes specific Points but Critics cant muster-up ANY valid Criticism that isnt Kindergarden-Level, sooo...

[@codedog2126]

thank you for sharing

[@GotstandardsDiamondNedFlanders]

Because these men(among other guests), are Treasures, and not the 'deplorable extremists' that fake news would paint anybody not pandering to their agenda.

[@username-rd7ju]

The most epic conversation from this year, without a doubt. This is a great example of why cross disciplinary conversations between different research fields in an non formal environment is crucial for us as a species. It holds the key to social spreading of the real fruits of science and discovery. My sincere gratitude to both gentleman.

[@deidrehead4537]

Wow a dopamine high. Very presumptuous of me.but I felt both of them would have loved to have met earlier in their lives

[@christianhabermann6527]

And mainstream wants to cancel Dr. Peterson. It's such a pity, we live in such crazy times.

[@anne-mariejane4595]

Here here well said!

[@Seaby41]

​@@christianhabermann6527Chat GPT doesn't think much of him from what I'm hearing... I've tried to listen to this several times. I'll have to sit down and listen to it with a notebook I think (and the wife perhaps..). This feels like another life changer. I've been circling around Dr Hubernam for but never gotten into him not sure why. I've been through his podcast now and downloaded a bunch. I imagine I will soon add Hubernam Parrot Bot option to my current and only option of Peterson Parrot Bot.

[@marcosabbatini4426]

The comment I've thought of writing, just written better than I could ever do. Great words "crucial for us as a species" you're right, man. Glad to see there's a huge audience interested in these themes despite the times we're living in.

[@chrisallen9213]

“That’s too much learning from failure” really helped me

[@zehthales2595]

You two could talk 10h straight and still find it too short. Amazing!

[@ckimmey2578]

I’m a 56 year old female that’s been medicated and depressed since I was a teen. Listening to this one video has just opened my eyes and expanded my knowledge more than any therapy and medication has ever given me. I guess I have a dopamine high. 😊 Thank you gentlemen. I’m grateful for you both. ❤ 🙏🏼 🕊

[@nenmaster5218]

Seen "A Brief Look at Peterson - SOME MORE NEWS"? A Video that makes specific Points??

[@ckimmey2578]

@@nenmaster5218 Your reply has nothing to do with my comment. But to answer your motivated question, I have to say… It’s hard to stay engaged in someone that only shows 3 hours worth of clips and pieces that are edited, specifically and carefully, by someone that clearly has a motive to use sarcasm, jealousy and hatred to try and discredit another human being. Dr Peterson has spent his life studying to understand what few have been able to do. Dr Peterson has helped millions to be able to take and cope with yet, one more day, because of something he has said in a lecture, a book or speaking engagement. Everyone can’t understand his work, and that’s ok. However, from someone who has been suicidal, in the darkest depths of despair for over 40 years, I’m thankful for the wisdom I can obtain from extraordinary humans that understand the psyche and the neuroscience of human interactions. Some, like myself, need to see that there is good, that there is kindness and especially feel that there is hope in this world. That we are and will be ok. So that even if I have to wake up again tomorrow, it may not feel as wretched as the previous day.

[@ChrisjayH1]

If you'd like to organize your life with more of those 'microgoals' in mind, I can highly recommend 'how to fail at nearly everything and still win big' by Scott Adams. He doesn't talk about dopamine per se, but his whole discussion of daily systems vs big goals might be really up your alley!

[@AniPo42]

"When you go into a social situation, pay more attention to the other person" I have (undiagnosed) social anxiety and this is EXACTLY how I approach dealing with social situations. I go in focusing on making other people feel comfortable, and it calms me significantly as I have external focus and action.

[@dumbass3843]

Good start but I would also say that it's good practice to be comfortable with yourself as well. Exercise is key Learn how to defend yourself And put work In yourself. Hygiene, good habit, research your opinions, have facts to back your argument but also be open to change. Take care of yourself, your environment( your house etc) and your family. Because once you effort into something it automatically have value. And once you have a value for yourself you will be better off

[@alexashleigh8787]

Yes. I’m the complete same. It seems to be simply a difference in choosing to approach the stimuli (via attention and behaviour) vs avoidance (via removing attention and running away or avoiding engagement). Trying to retrain the approach tendency is key.

[@AniPo42]

@@dumbass3843 that's generally great advice. I personally am actually a self defence instructor 😁 I can teach by focusing on my students. I also am a wife and mom of 5 so I take care of them and the house. I just feel anxious in social gatherings even when they're all friendly.

[@gozzygozza4760]

Please do another podcast. This is literally one of the most educational and meaningful podcast. This was INCREDIBLE

[@fhowland]

Man, Huberman never stops to take a breath

[@TheKwil]

I was in hypnosis just listening right up until Jordan finally said something, Jordan loves to teach but you can see how much he loves to learn even more

[@user-mr2bk7ku9x]

The fact that he put the ENTIRE SCREEN for Huberman the vast majority of this debate/discussion and didn't even bother putting his perspective/live reaction in a little corner, IF MUCH his channel logo, tells A LOT about what you just pointed out. There is a certain pleasure in teaching to others and watch them lesrn and practice. But the pleasure, the... experience... sense of accomplishment you get from processing and digesting all this info, is just on another level. I loved every second of this.

[@user-mr2bk7ku9x]

learn* whoops!

[@MJ-jk9jg]

I think he was admiring the beard 🧔

[@robertwhite2449]

It's a shame he didn't do that during the interview with Richard Dawkins ... Massive missed opportunity there on behalf of Dr Peterson

[@susiejoyk1287]

@@robertwhite2449 give him a break. Jordan is a great man on every level.

[@Rahjahh]

This is amazing. I switched to psychology as an undergrad largely influenced by Dr.Peterson and later delved into neuroscience and neuroendocrinology following Dr.Huberman and Dr.Sapolsky. I could not have asked for more or anything better.

[@franciscoreyes7370]

Good luck finding a decent job without a phd.

[@antnfs]

^ fuck this guy. You’re following the best. Keep a weather eye on the horizon for Sapolsky’s new book ‘Determined’ (although it may be a long way off I’m really excited for it) and read Behave if you haven’t already.

[@antnfs]

^ fuck this guy. You’re following the best. Keep a weather eye on the horizon for Sapolsky’s new book ‘Determined’ (although it may be a long way off I’m really excited for it) and read Behave if you haven’t already.

[@polymathpark]

@@franciscoreyes7370 it's not all about the degree.

[@polymathpark]

nice! sapolsky really set my interest in these fields as well. I'm wary of peterson because he has agendas and does "jesus smuggling" but huberman seems to be quite unbaised.

[@SlipMahoneyBowery]

To me it is so calming to hear the biophysical side explained. It’s like “oh ok, I’m feeling this because something is happening to my dopamine levels. All I have to do is think or behave in a certain way to fix that “. I’m sure for me this may constitute somewhat a breakthrough in managing anxiety on a hourly or a daily basis. I believe if we could combine these two areas of study together we could create a single profession that would help society tremendously.

[@simonzhang3D]

ye we dont need to be a slave to our demons, Its great to hear

[@jakedocking6638]

Dopamine is the ultimate currency. Fascinating framing by Huberman.

[@NETrevgadget]

What more interdisciplinary and meaningful collaboration can there be beyond a discussion between a clinical psychologist and neuroscientist. Beautiful conversation.

[@JDMETAL123456789]

And they’re good speakers. It’s already rare to have a professional that can explain clearly but to have academics with complimentary disciplines do it together is a goldmine.

[@Sudegink]

Nice music Shogo.

[@lior6222]

Oh my god, I fantasized about this podcast between you two coming live for a long time! Thanks so much for this amazing collab!

[@lectrix8]

Same!!

[@rachellera-shellkoon5977]

I was diagnosed with C-PTSD and in early 2022 I had Stellate Ganglion Block shots from Stella. I finally feel calm and I am becoming all I was meant to be. I shock friends and family daily with how quickly I am healing and getting out of my way. I have no more panic attacks, I'm not in hypervigilance anymore, and I haven't had emotional deregulation since having the shots. I still am putting in a lot of work because I have a ton of healing to do, but I am truly healing. I'm even going to SLC to come hear your lecture this May. Thank you both for your amazing work and sharing your knowledge with the world.

[@sheinaKlein]

They’re like textbooks that can speak. High quality conversations like this is hard to come by. Thank you for posting. This video deserves the million views that tiktok dancing videos have. That actually says a lot about our generation today.

[@OhMea]

Can we get a part 2, 3 and 4? This was so good!

[@kosmos7525]

Yes please!! Those two have such an amazing way of interacting with each other. The flow of the conversation and the value that comes out of it is just amazing.

[@its_atre]

Please!!!

[@saravincent8751]

Check out the Huberman podcast, ALL episodes are great! :)

[@meenapervez6718]

The most useful podcast by both. Notice the minimal interruptions by JP. A wonderfully harmonious conversation.

[@AdamLeis]

This is a great example of interdisciplinary exploration of overlapping topics. One shares a bit from their field, another shares their perspective of the same, then you get some kind of bridge between the two. Great content, as always 🎉

[@betemulugeta9782]

'The purpose of thought is to let our thoughts die instead of us '' love that

[@Ateam1983]

Never seen Jordan speak so little. Two of my favorite academics!

[@eileenmuir1698]

Huberman is the best!

[@PR.Gokulnath]

I cannot fathom the depth of quality of information we are getting here, about how our own mind works. ❤

[@serhei9825]

Jordan interviewing skills are developing really fast. He's able to let the guest talk more w/o Interrupting, give insights and ask precise questions

[@KingRockets]

Are you being sarcastic? He was pretty much answering his own questions....

[@williampaul8556]

He has heightened interest and is listening more intently. Most conversations are not this satisfying and also stimulating. Rich conversation for both. High level!

[@aspencrest]

for awhile yes.. but then near the end, he is his same old interrupting self. so bothersome.

[@brutexrp7207]

I think Jordan is trying but I believe he can improve more on his listening skills and restrict interupting. It must be hard when one is excited to not interupt.

[@autoexec5367]

love the sarcasm

[@YeniAvrupaMuzik]

You can see how much respect Dr.Huberman for Jordan Peterson has. It's a very special Conversation.

[@lyuboslavlichev6454]

I love the fact how both of them put so much effort into simplifying those complex topics .

[@bohansenboh]

I have been a depressive person and listening to Jordan Peterson talk about the psychological state of disappointment made me very happy, because it demonstrates the power of mindset.

[@snakejazz]

I've been hoping and praying for this conversation to happen and given to us plebs for free. Thank you both so much 🙏🏼

[@axiomic]

@Optic Flow come on man, he wasn't so bad. Both allowed each other to talk at lengths at a time.

[@Rupal1990]

@Optic Flow It's not like they were pointless interruptions, he always added something useful

[@snakejazz]

@Optic Flow they're both professional speakers and they both interrupted each other multiple times. And they both got back to what they spoke about pre-interruption. Don't get caught up on trivial matters bud. There's way more important shit going on.

[@46positivity]

I love these "Worlds Colliding" episodes. I felt like this when he hosted Bishop Barron. It's when he hosts someone that you don't expect is in the same realm.

[@enigmaticone6559]

Yeah one of the things I love about listening to Jordan Peterson is he just finds all kinds of different perspectives and people to talk to and clashes it with his own perspective on things. Now I don't listen to him all the time because I have to actually be paying attention which is harder than I'd like to admit but every time I do seriously listen to some of his conversations I always feel like I come out better for it. Always thought-provoking.

[@dwayne20110521]

@@enigmaticone6559 he just goes so far and then stops. Try not to lie is his main idea

[@lucasraphaelpianegonda2058]

This is probably the best thing I've listened to all year. It's a miracle that this is free.

[@vincents3052]

Dr. Huberman and Dr. Peterson, two preeminently deeply researched, most articulate, and erudite professors. Respect and love for what YOU do. Mahalo.

[@timgagnon5424]

Amazing content, absolutely incredible. This should be broadcast nationally on evening TV. There's more to learn in these 90 minutes than in an entire seasons' worth of sitcoms or reality shows.

[@luisantos1996]

I don't think any tv show has ever come close of this level of sinergy and insight that this 2 people had between each other in this podcast.

[@wmhs02dm]

Lmao yes 🙌🏻

[@dwayne20110521]

they could talk about NDE and those going to heaven and to hell (see if they remove this)

[@JulietMartin2022]

What a superb treat to have these two legends let us listen in on their splendid intellectual discussion.

[@jbeir7421]

Absolute artistry of minds, knowledge and curiousity. Loved it.

[@thechold7062]

Agreed! Love it

[@lauralockie]

Thank you for reaffirming my faith in Dr. Peterson's intelligence and insight, especially pertaining to the concept of creating a new identity to avoid reacting to anger in an unacceptable way.

[@user-cy5cd3zk5z]

If you watch this video and say that you don’t have respect for Jordan Peterson at this point then you really need to reevaluate your life because this man is so intelligent it’s an amazing thing to witness. Shame on anyone who can’t even appreciate that alone.

[@gemin1546]

What a blessing to be alive today to be able to learn from these two intellectual giants. Thank you!

[@Claythargic]

This needs to be in every single classroom on the planet. Critical insights for ordinary humans.

[@Claythargic]

@@txdmsk For some reason this sounds like "The mitochondria is the power house of the cell"

[@sipraranidebnath6752]

It's a privilege to watch both of them having a wonderful chat ..

[@aLone114]

THIS SHOW MUST GO ON

[@belizabu]

These two are amazing! My favorite professors. They have to do more together.

[@owlwatch6572]

Seeing two men with such passion for what they do, this is wonderful and the fact that you allowed us to be part of it. Thank you for that.

[@maxpower5573]

quickest 100 mins ever.. could listen for days honestly

[@lanabanana6849]

Thank you, Doctor Heberman for your interesting podcasts.They are long but I always listen to every.Word because we learn so much from them. Please continue your work for humankind

[@deemahdee]

Huberman and Peterson 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 I love this world

[@ullagg54]

Kudos Dr Peterson for interviewing Huberman