NEVER Do This To A Fire Truck

[@80fireman]

I had an encounter similar to this out of state. Fully involved dwelling with the Chief on the pumper by himself. I identified myself as an out of state firefighter to him and asked what I could do. He stated he needed a pump operator and I ended up operating that pumper for the duration of the incident.

[@LauRoot892]

FireMan 👨‍🚒

[@elinor6525]

@@LauRoot892 firefighter, half of us are women.

[@raider8086]

Half?

[@issstari954]

What's in the word women woah-men

[@dandoherty8076]

Y

[@davebutcher2011]

I watched the original video and one of the comments was from one of the firefighters on the scene and the guy who ran and hooked up the hydrant was a firefighter from a neighboring department. You were very right the guy knew what the heck he was doing.

[@wilsjane]

He certainly got the water hooked up fast, allowing the deck gun to continue without draining the tank and delaying deployment of the lines.

[@yamiru3417]

this is what need to be known more

[@TheEDFLegacy]

Very good explanation on the random person helping out. Considering the firefighters didn't shoo him away, I have to assume off-duty or retired from that department. I would never touch their equipment in a case like that. At worst I may point out observations if they're extremely busy (ie. I see an exposure starting to catch).

[@justanotheraviator2357]

Also he was sitting there waiting at the hydrant talking to the police officer

[@htownkiller1111]

mostly off duty FF

[@THEFINALHAZARD]

Exactly. Most I’ve ever done to help a FD was when we had a major fire, and they needed more FFs to help run a 5” line so I put down the camera, said fuck it and started hauling hose with them. But that was only A: after hearing the officer of the truck calling verbally for more help, and B: Verbally responding with “I got ya!”

[@carson2583]

@Marcus Young a 3rd alarm is not 3 trucks. It’s a lot more. 3 trucks is like the bare minimum for a 1st alarm really. Also, you don’t get to choose what alarm you want the fire to be, the chief or an officer does when they get there.

[@bfpierce]

If only we could apply the “I would never touch their equipment/tools” rule to every workplace.

[@jreese46]

That chief took one look at him and turned around. Instant recognition. Sometimes helpful to wrap a hydrant bag around the coupling with enough room that the hydrant can be opened without the bag restricting it. Then mount the coupling so it's always on the same spot with bag attached.

[@HowardTVFan]

What's the bag for?

[@jreese46]

@@HowardTVFan Usually has hydrant wrench, spanner or two, deadfall mallet, sometimes coupling adapters if you're in an area where not everything is set up for Storz. Just general "gonna need this at the hydrant" stuff.

[@HowardTVFan]

@@jreese46 thanks!

[@mikep3008]

That’s what we do. It is clipped just under the coupling so you can grab them both and go

[@LIGHTNING278TH]

Ours attaches with a couple velcro straps so you can just rip it off once your at the hydrant.

[@zacherydevoy2381]

That guy in the grey is my uncle. He was the chief of a neighboring department that was in the area at the time of the dispatch and came to assist

[@joanhoffman3702]

Say thank you to him from the rest of us. I certainly appreciate the job firefighters are doing to protect the rest of us.❤

[@TylerTMG]

Awesome

[@Bl4ckw0lf1]

You have a kick ass smoke eater for an uncle there.

[@blk3car]

Nice work there. 👍

[@Stargazzer811]

Thats wicked cool, and explains why both the cop and the engine co. captain instantly recognized him and what he was doing. Your uncle probably shaved a few seconds off the clock by being there. Thank him for his service, from all of us.

[@Ogrematic]

I saw a guy have a heart attack at an event with steep stairs in the audience. The medics came and put the guy in a transport chair with the handles on the top and bottom. They were making their way up the steps with this guy and some random audience member tries to grab the side of the chair to help and almost flipped the chair over. The medic yelled at him to stop. He really let him have it. If you don't know and you haven't been trained, Don't Help.

[@gjsrky]

As long as you know your limitations...

[@Ogrematic]

@@gjsrky Limitations? No, don't interfere is the point of the story.

[@gjsrky]

@@Ogrematic Right. Sounds like you should stay out of everyone's way ... Now you know your limitations!

[@DSiren]

be careful when helping. You can still get doors for them or whatever else, but ask them. If there's something you can do they'll be happy to tell you.

[@Ogrematic]

@@DSiren I didn't help, it was some other guy. I worked with medics, I know to stand out of the way unless they ask for an assist with heavy people.

[@HWill-iq9sl]

I'm glad this video is coming up more and more as a volunteer yes you know your other station members because Mutual Aid plays well with your neighbor station I believe this fire was put out in 16 minutes with the deck gun it would be interesting to know if that guy had a radio as a lieutenant or captain in the subdivision thank you for sharing this video again.

[@LauRoot892]

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[@merlinkatz9797]

City of Delavan (WI) is an all volunteer department. I watched this video 3 times with a fire protection engineer from Chicago, a guy with 4 decades of fire fanning and well-respected in the world of fire fighting, and at the end he quietly remarked, “Wow…that is one well-trained fire department…very well-trained.’’ Go DFD!

[@SobaOfPulaski]

For every bad volunteer department you got a few good ones that stay silent professionals.

[@fuzzyworld3]

Thanks for the positive identification of Delavan WI, I know there are others in the US.

[@merlinkatz9797]

@@fuzzyworld3 Thanks Mark. I’m proud of that Delavan WI fire dept. And grateful too.

[@lizmaurer3830]

Also, the department carries insurance on the firefighters, not random citizens. Anyone not on the insurance policy is a liability to the department.

[@monkeyop1834]

now under NYS law any volunteer firefighters who offers individual assistance and has been accepted by an officer on that department are covered by that departments insurance. no matter the department within the state

[@michaelperkins3003]

If anyone comes to help, that is a civilian, if they get hurt then they get nothing from that department or city. They aren't a liability but an intrusion.

[@mikeberthold1593]

I have seen this particular fire video a few years ago and I was blown away how fast they responded and knocked down the fire everyone that works for the Delavan fire department should be very very proud👍👍👍

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

It depends on what's going on with the first and how quickly it's progressing. A few years ago there was a fire a few houses down and they were at it pretty leisurely. I can't say that they were wrong in doing so, there were no injuries and the structure remained standing without needing to be torn down later. But, it took ages before they did anything once they cut that roof vent.

[@williamcandee5267]

The Delavan Fire Department has a video out there titled quick water compilation or some such, and it shows multiple fires in which they do what they did here: pull a truck up out front and fire up the deck gun while pulling accessory lines, all in service of quickly getting water on the fire -- and it appears remarkably-effective.

[@norcanff]

The video host echoed another comment that a deck gun is only good for the outside. I respectfully disagree. It can also hit the interior through a window, knock the fire back and make for a much cooler and safer interior attack.

[@warailawildrunner5300]

@@norcanff Yeah UK firefighters tend to hit the fire asap with whatever they have on hand... if more water is needed then the hydrants can be hooked up during this phase, while the fire is being addressed there and then. Unless there's some established hazard anyway. You can see it pretty much at any UK fire that's been recorded. Always baffles me why some US fire services faf around getting hoses laid out and attached first rather than start fighting the fire.... watching this one on the other hand was great :) I hope they did manage to save other properties and limit the damage.

[@pro-n-stal1]

Noticed, as a past firefighter, driver trainer... Great job!!! If the driver would have stopped to let the jump seat out to wrap the hydrant, would have taken way too long for set up and hit! The driver probably knew the guy that was standing at the hydrant and good communications happened even before he rounded the corner! As with the deck gun! Perfect execution of deploy tank / to supply! Get that water flowing. That Pierce quantum was probably built with 1800 to 2000+ gallons due to the tandem rear axle. A large Cary water must for districts with limited supply! Thank you for the great coverage!

[@fdMT_EnGy]

I was definitely thinking right away that he must be a member that either lived in that neighborhood or went directly to the job. Like mentioned by you and in other comments, he knew exactly what he ws doing. The other thing I was thinking is how tapping that hydrant blocked off other responding units they'll have to be told to come in the other direction. Which they obviously did. It actually worked out better that way, which I assume command made that call on purpose, because truck also got to pull up in front of the dwelling. Perfect rig placement, the best fire ground operations, and quickest water flow I've seen on KZbin, from what I assume is a volly department... by far.

[@ffjsb]

The other thing that confirms he was a member of the FD is that NOBODY came to the rear of the engine, so they already knew he was going to pull the line for them. I've seen water on the fire this fast many times, it just didn't get put on KZbin.

[@jimratliff2753]

Well done on the fire attack. Getting that deck gun on the fire was indeed key and coupled with the rapid LDH supply line to the hydrant to establish a water source, again, on the ball stuff. The cross lay attack line deployments in unison too was a plus. Man, lots of FD's both career AND volunteer could learn a lot about fire ground OPS here by taking each of these steps in to account. Nice job.

[@Pigeon__Man]

In 14 years of volly FD I never saw the deck gun used outside of drill. After seeing so many of your videos, and as a new LT, it'll always be in the back of my mind. I've been on two towns now and we've always pushed having apparatus come from multiple directions.

[@clarence8117]

As a firefighter from Australia I love your advice to Civilians, its clear , well spoken, direct and firm

[@crweewrc1388]

Thank you for your service ❤️❤️❤️

[@ronr3656]

I am not a firefighter but I have literally watched pre-arrival videos where a fire goes from garage only to house fully involved between the arrival time and the water on fire time. Your points about water on fire are excellent. I have always wondered, 'Is there something I don't understand?" At least in the case of water on fire, apparently not. Regarding the guy not in uniform, in this video he goes right to work on a specific task no other firefighter is even attempting to address. The firefighters obviously know this is his role.

[@rocks-if6uh]

Same here. I'm always speechless watching some of the pre arrival till water hits the fire times. I understand there are variables that in the long run that may hinder in actually getting the fire out or delay in rescue of trapped individuals. Tactile plan and organized crews really have a upper hand and get things done efficiently and quickly.

[@wilsjane]

A good chief takes everything into account and as a result the crew trust him, rather than running around like headless chickens. Some competent chiefs set out specific guys for tasks at the start of the shift, leaving him free to fine tune the operation. Despite having to arrive from their day jobs, some volunteer crews have a similar routine, but in this case it is often based on the order in which they arrive.

[@Beandiptheredneck]

@@wilsjane the full time departments around here have specific rolls for each seat in the truck, we do to a certain point in the volunteer department I'm on too

[@kevinyoung6067]

As someone responding to and/or at the scene without gear, that's one of the few tasks you can do safely. As a volunteer on and off for 30 years, I often found myself pulling supply line or cords reels until backup could arrive. I've also helped evacuate neighboring buildings and dealt with distraught, displaced residents while fire crews were still primarily focused on suppression.

[@mikmik9034]

I remember in the olden days, prior to the comfy cabins, the men would ride on the rear of the Hose Company Trucks. As the truck passed the nearest Hydrant they would drop off and pull the hose with them to attach it to the hydrant. "Water Cannons" were called "Monitors" and rare to see. Then they suddenly appeared on Tankers, and Ladder top of a tiller ladder trucks. Also in those days, a Huge "Stay Back 500 feet" sign was on the Hose, and Ladder trucks. I can also hardly remember when a dozen guys hung of the sides and back of ladder trucks. Four guys on a Hose Truck, two on a Tanker.

[@engineco.1494]

Yep if your in command and you have the extra minute let the incoming units know what you want them to do on arrival it saves valuable time and makes the most of initial resources.The first officer or IC is painting the picture for everyone and it can be frustrating if your 2nd or 3rd due and you hear very little about the size up or initial attack. Just remember to breathe and communicate.

[@CShivery]

That engine also had dual rear axles, so it probably had a 1,000-1,500 gallon tank, giving them more time before hooking up to the hydrant. Solid work in this video.

[@leadpilled5567]

We have 1000 gallon tanks on our engines and 2500 on our tankers. For years we’d set up a drop tank then draft from that. Prob 10 years ago we switched to hooking the tanker to the engine with a 25ft roll of 3in supply line. Our tankers have 750gpm pumps. By doing this we have 3500gal for our initial attack with no delay in getting set up to draft. Right after we piggyback the tanker then a drop tank is set up for the next do tanker but we’ve found it’s rarely needed as the result of the aggressive attack. We figure it saves about 3 minutes takes less manpower and allows us to use a deck gun when needed.

[@SD45-ET44AC]

This occurred 25+ years ago when we sill used 10- codes and signals and such, so be sure you are communicating correctly with the on scene personnel as it’s imperative that you know the language or abbreviations that another department uses. My wife and I worked in EMS and we were at my Aunt’s house in Maine (we live in Virginia). There was an EMS call two doors up, and were two on the ambulance and a paramedic that responded 😢in a medic truck from the city across the river. They were working frantically running in and out of the house and I said who we were, our EMS affiliation and asked if we could be of help and one of them replied 10-12 and I repeated 10-12? and the guy looks at me and shouted “yes, 10-12, 10-12! Well where we come from 10-12 meant stand by, so we just hung outside, standing by and about ten minutes later with other people helping they brought out the patient, strapped to a back board and they were doing CPR. After they loaded their patient and left for the hospital I was thinking we could have carried equipment or done compressions and I asked a firefighter who had come on a engine company and asked if there was a protocol not to let bystanders help and he asked what the guy said which was 10-12 so we just stood by and he explained that to them 10-12 meant a working code blue and everyone asked why we didn’t help after offering to. I’m glad we speak plain language now.

[@georgecrosby113]

In a department I was in, the Sherriff's Department handled the dispatch center. Usually three people on duty, one on Fire/EMS, one on Law Enforcement, one supervisor. We used 10 codes. When doing away with them was under discussion, our Chief asked for reasons for doing away with them...my answer "10-32 on the Fire/EMS side is 'subject bleeding', 10-32 on LE side is 'man with a gun' what happens to us when the dispatcher forgets which radio he's on?" Chief immediately became in favor of plain language dispatching!!!

[@smorris281]

My county ceased to use 10 codes, as per the newest APCO standards for interoperability. On occasion however, you can still hear them used, tradition dies hard with some.

[@hosedragger-204]

@@smorris281 I've been with the FD in my town for a bit over a year now and we use plain English 99.9% of the time. I come from a highschool background of criminal justice at one of the nearby Tech Centers so I have a habit of saying "10-4" instead of "copy" when receiving messages over the radio due to it being a habit from the tech center. Thankfully it means the same to everyone else as it does to me from my prior experience at the tech center so there's no confusion issues. Dispatch even uses it sometimes because they dispatch for multiple police departments and fire departments.

[@whatusernameis5295]

I would've thought the 10 codes where standard

[@gonnadestroymattsass1015]

@@whatusernameis5295 not remotely. Even in my own state, they change by county

[@brenth1081]

Hey Mike, I was want to say thank you for everything you have posted and taught this community. I started watching your videos a year ago when I started volunteer firefighting. Your videos encouraged me to change my career and pursue a a full time firefighting position. You made it clear that it is attainable with persistence and hard work. I am proud to say that today I accepted a Full-time job as a FF/EMT. I start the academy in February. Thank you so much, you’ve been a big inspiration to me!

[@mike_pertz]

Great to hear Brent! Thank you for the kind words and watching the channel! Good luck at your new department!

[@piggrunner7460]

@@mike_pertz are you gonna start posting again?

[@DarrellReuther-yg8yo]

Absolutely spot on about deployment of the deck gun on arrival......

[@collectingonthecheap56353]

Didn't search for the video, but it came recommended in my feed. Not disappointed, really useful and informative. Thank you for all that you do as a firefighter, via preventative information, and actually fighting them when they do happen.

[@UncleFred100]

Great comments, right on the money. As a B chief I really liked training for the use of deck gun, so long again as there was fairly quick access to a water supply. This was perfect, because not only was a hydrant less than 50’ away, that is a pumper tanker with probably a 1500 gallon water tank, so they could really get a lot of water in place without as much empty tank anxiety. With our units at 500 gallons, we had to be a little more strategic. Great video…should be a training aid!😉👍

[@sixtytooze4746]

Very easy to go with master streams when carrying that much water. Having a nearby hydrant and extra hands to help with backing up also very fortunate. Nice work all around.

[@monkeyop1834]

i know for us we'd be calling almost out of water at 500 gallons Edit, with the tandem axle its probably 2000 gallons at least

[@notmyname3883]

I'm not up on all the high-tech gadgetry available to urban volly depts nowadays. Do you suppose they knew exactly where the hydrant was going to be in relation to the scene address? Sometimes we have to get to a scene and argue about where the nearest hydrant is. That makes a big difference in attack.

[@The_Dudester]

December 1968. My older sister took my younger brother and I to a fire (she was babysitting). The fire, just a couple of blocks away. Old, small, wood frame house was just a fireball. Two trucks, but only three firefighters. The firefighters were desperately trying to save the house next to the fireball. Several dozen spectators, but no helpers. At one point one of the firefighters ran over. He had spotted and recognized me. He had seen me at an event at the firehouse where I amazed everyone by handling a hose (a charged booster reel hose). "Can he help?" the firefighter asked. "He's just a little kid" my sister replied. The firefighter returned to the fire without me. A couple of firefighters, on another truck, arrived about twenty minutes later.

[@Michael-st9ky]

That would have been bad ass if your sister let you help

[@phishENchimps]

3:18 I heard years ago a van full of Army reserves stopped and helped pull out a line to a fire. once they had helped the Firemen run the line, they went back to their van because their was nothing else for them to do but leave.

[@michaelmorris8707]

I've watched a lot of fire videos and as a past volunteer fire fighter this was the fastest I have ever seen firemen and women move. The deck gunner was great and all that responded should get a raise or steak dinner or both. Even as a former volunteer fire fighter I would still not interfere in another companies duties. Great job!!!

[@LauRoot892]

Michael 😮

[@TheDrewber]

Hey Mike, unrelated to this video but finally received an offer from my local department today and start academy the end of January. Thanks for all the help through the interviews and hiring process!

[@ArchTeryx00]

My rule of thumb is: Unless you're specifically trained and ceritifed as a firefighter (volunteer or otherwise) the best thing to do is stay the hell out of the way once the firefighters are on scene. If you DO have a cert and aren't already part of that department, your advice on asking the truck engineer if they need an extra pair of hands isn't at all bad. (Captain or bat chief. depending on who's on site, would also be good coordination points IF they have a moment to spare).

[@CITYNEWSSUPPORT]

I have been to hundreds of fire scenes and have observed off duty members jump in where they can or are needed! One thing I do when arriving on scene at most fires Is get a camera rolling of the fire, than take a minute or two snap a few dozen still photos of the crowds and people watching! I always make it a Point to drop a card with the BC or a Capt and let them know I have done this! As a News Photographer I usually know of they have an Arsonist working the area!

[@patpatpat1336]

This would be one of the best uses for a deck gun providing you know nobody is in the house still. The way they rolled up, perfection. When I used to volunteer, I never saw anything like this but we did use a monitor on our 100 foot platform ladder and portable monitors. Our problem really was that we don't have municipal water and most hydrants put out around 185 gallons per minute.

[@notmyname3883]

OH, you're not gonna be that, "but,,,,,,,,,the deck gun'll force the fire right into the unburnt structure," guy, are you?

[@nebraskaninkansas347]

Yea I always loved people that say that. I mean yes the Fire Departments in most jurisdictions are funded by tax dollars, that means you don't get billed for their services. You already did by paying your taxes. Afterall you wouldn't bring your stuff and move in to the fire station, saying its a publicly owned, so I own this building.

[@RLTtizME]

I do go into the Fire House and sit in their Lazy Boys. Blow a few pooters too. All that Chili ya know. .......

[@cmcer1995]

Water on the fire seems to be a solid plan of attack. Something is better than nothing and departments should consider making that a high priority. It seems like too often it seems to take forever for this to occur. I can only imagine someone there watching the fire spread to their home with several firefighters not actively doing something about it.

[@alexkinch7083]

Thank you for your explanation of these videos as a newer firefighter it is extremely helpful especially the ones where there is a fire department, making mistakes so we can learn from them. Maybe could you do a breakdown of a crash with entrapment or something along the lines of that thank you.

[@STW10202]

Watching your interview series now, great stuff! Thanks for the content

[@BUNKERJR53]

I have seen other videos where it took forever to get water on the fire. This Truck company did an amazing job. They had water on the structure with in a few minutes or less. They even had a line dropped to the hydrant within minutes. You can tell this company is well trained and the "Officer in Command" knows his stuff.

[@miked2502]

Your so right about the deck gun. It is one of the most under used pieces of equipment on a Fire truck. This company hit that deck gun and got a jump on putting this fire out. Great video...

[@martybadboy]

I was watching a fire once when the first truck pulled up. I know nothing about fire fighting. I stood there watching (not recording with a phone). The lone fireman starting pulling hose out of the back and turned to me and said in an extremely pissed off manner "are you gonna help me or not?!" Lol. I helped pull the hose out. 🤷

[@reykrymen7235]

Hey, this is unrelated to this particular video but I wanted to comment to thank you for all the advice you have provided since you started this channel. I made the decision to make a career chance exactly one year ago and since then I went thru fire academy, emt school, got hired by an initial department and finally made the move to my dream department where I hope to stay until I retire. Your videos have been incredibly helpful. Again, thanks.

[@ChrisLafferty]

I appreciate your succinct explanation. To have to explain who you are, your qualifications, and why you're doing what you're doing would only impede progress instead of being helpful. Like you said, identify yourself and ask how you can help. Imagine someone grabbing a taxpayer funded rifle out of a cop car to "help" because they "know what they're doing"???

[@mandyomally4896]

Love the Deck Gun. We use ours all the time on infernos. Bad thing is to many departments buy "mini-pumpers" (water tanks under 1000 gallons) LOL. We have an Engine Tanker 1st out on all structure fires that has a 2000 gallon tank. Actually, our 1st alarm structure dispatch has 5 Engine Tankers coming 1st due so we do not have to worry about hitting hydrants, setting up draft sites, nor set up those worthless portable tanks. It makes me so mad to hear these guys say "we don't carry enough water to use our gun". THEN BUY AN ENGINE TANKER !!!!!!!

[@grant209]

Been a firefighter for over 32 years in Australia, Full-time and as a Volunteer in that time. Have stepped in an helped out the Pump Operator in getting Hydrants to work a few times over the years, some I have know, but most I have not seen before. Most once you identify yourself as an Off-duty Firefighter, will take the help without any questions. And looking at this job, and the fact there are a couple cars in the street with single red flashing lights . . . I'd say they may have had a couple volunteer Fire/Police Corps or Volunteer Members arrived first

[@carson2583]

My chiefs father is the father of this department. The guy that ran up lives in that neighborhood and is a firefighter on this department. Great department. This is all volunteer and they are super highly rated. Thanks.

[@butterchuggins5409]

My sister is a hydrant bag

[@edloeffler9769]

The only procedural change I may have made was to locate the attack engine either short or beyond the fire structure to allow the truck to take its place directly in front. Having a hydrant so close was fantastic, eliminating the need for a hydrant pumper.

[@LauRoot892]

Ed 😢

[@donovandeminey7629]

I worked in a large city and would never touch any equipment of another station without speaking to the officer and first getting the go ahead, love this video and how everything was explained

[@perryfire1]

Funny story: I was once first due on a huge industrial fire with no clue (it was not my primary district) where a hydrant was located. My officer who I dropped off at the fire told me to go around the block and find one. I did, and the nearest one was around 600 feet from the fire. I knew I was going to have to relay pump due to the size of the fire and distance to the hydrant, but I also knew that I had to get an LDH to the attack pumper. I was getting ready to backtrack and drop a line back to the hydrant when I spotted about 20 employees standing around my truck and in a brilliant move I told them I needed my LDH to that far distance fire truck. I had at least 20 dudes pulling that hose as fast as they could go and within a few minutes I had my soft suction hooked up to the hydrant and I was pumping to the attack pumper. They really came in handy. Good point about staging apparatus. It is maddening when one apparatus driver clutters up your entire scene. Cops are great for this too. At my old department we sent so many trucks to a scene that it was almost ridiculous especially if it was a small incident. Officers and especially Incident Commanders need to exercise their right to stage companies and not have a circus at the scene if it's warranted. Run order operations need to be strictly enforced.

[@DavidSnyder-n2l]

It’s very satisfying to see someone remembered about the fun on the top . Awsome !!

[@rldevoe]

Firefighter: Hey what are you doing? random civilian: it's ok, I know what I'm doing I stayed at a holiday inn express

[@LauRoot892]

De 😮

[@andrewcraig3369]

The deck gun was a great choice to start on this, this home was pretty close to fully involved so any water on the fire is good water, I just wouldn't commit anyone to the interior until the engine is on the hydrant because even though the engine looks like it has 1000 gal tank that deck gun is going to use that water quickly.

[@hottshot1939]

Agree 100 percent with the master stream if you have the water. You have think about your supply and how quickly you can resupply. The first engine looks like it probably had 1500 to 2000 gallon tank. I started out as a volly and we had 1000 in the tank plus tankers coming but getting that resupply could take longer than the what the master stream could flow. I am a firm believer that big fire needs big what but just manage it. Be safe.

[@garychlastawa8277]

I once helped a truck hook up to a hydrant, but I first made eye contact with the guy dragging the supply hose. After he hooked it up, he had me stay there while he went back to the truck and to turn it on if he waved, but never needed to.

[@grannygoes]

Only once in all my years, what ultimately was a 4 alarm, marked the plug for first in, helped hook it up, and listened to the radio for the send water call. And then stayed the heck out the way.

[@JermStone]

I considered being a volunteer fire fighter years ago but after seeing how dangerous it can be fighting fires in the small canyons that get several fires annually I reconsidered... every part of a firefighters job is dangerous and I applaud anyone that is capable of doing that job. Active, volunteer or retired they are life savers.

[@jimpease5262]

awsome video. very well organized and trained firefighters. they knew what to do as soon as the breaks were set. Using the deck gun to knock down the exterior fire gets the interior attack crew inside faster and protecting immediate exposures . job well done.

[@Battalion31]

Perhaps dropping a supply line on way in would be good , but 750- 1000 gallons only goes so far… good job

[@joeloffman6985]

That rig is an Engine/tanker that has 2500 to 2800 gallons of water

[@AMCguy]

Love your channel! Just finished my FF1 (A,B,C) certification. Now on to level 2! Im hoping I can get hired on by someone in the next few months!

[@louismontelaro9247]

I agree they did a good job firefighter for 30 years here When we made a hydrant we hydrant we had a hook that we would hook on the it would hook on the on the hose to the hydrant and let the truck go and pull the holes off

[@eduardobayona5930]

I live close to this department, they are a combination dept. I believe in the time frame of this video it might have been more volunteer than it is now. Guy in the shirt is more than likely a volunteer

[@RichardTackentien]

This is the best example Ive seen as a 40 year firefighter of a textbook fire attack, regarding helping a fire department do not do it unless you know what you are doing and secure permission from the Incident Commander or another ranking Officer. I believe this is an all volunteer department and makes no difference, it is about training, experience and efficiency.

[@pvfdwatkins2895]

I am just a volly firefighter and in delaware I was working driving a towtruck when I saw a house on fire so I jumped out of my truck and started beating on doors of the apartment on fire... I then helped pull lines and throw ladders after explaining to the chief who I am and asked how to help.... there is a right way to do things

[@thumperjdm]

At the start of the video, we see grey shirt guy standing right next to the police officer (hi-viz vest.) He's obviously known to the police officer...he isn't just Joe-Blow running up to the fire engine. The fact the police officer doesn't attempt to stop him running up to the engine gives weight to believing he's an off-duty FF.

[@kj3rd2657]

You are so RIGHT! I been saying this many times before! I seen firefighter come to the fire only to take about 15 mins or more to put water on the fire and by the time they do, the house has burn more then 50% to the ground! I see this a lot in big city's like new york! It's like they want the house to burn real bad first! Whats up with this? 😮

[@jamesbeecher4431]

On the original video - it's from 2013 - the guy that hits the hydrant is a member of a neighboring department that was in the area when call came in. They are a volunteer on call department and the first in engine has 2,000 gallons on board. It is in Wisconsin and wiki says they have a population of just under 5,400

[@davidstarkey295]

Great call with the deck gun! Waaaaay back when I was a volunteer, I remember using the deck gun during the academy, but was a bit dismayed that we would only use it as a monitor on large industrial fires, and not as a quick knock tool to cover as the lines were being lead out. I see too many videos where at least 2-3 minutes are wasted getting SCBAs on, as well as unfurling hundreds of feet of 1 3/4" line, before making the first initial knock.

[@kb9liq]

Only problem I have with a deck gun is some knowing when to use it. The volunteer department I was on got a new chief that was not on the department when he was made chief by the trustees for some reason. We had a house fire and myself and another fireman were inside with a hose line trying to get to the seat of the fire upstairs when this new chief decide we might need to use the deck gun, whihc we never did. But the only trouble with this was our deck gun was not pre-piped and this new chief had them shut DOWN the truck to hook it up, while we were inside fighting the fire. When the hose went limp we dropped it and got out thinking something bad must have happened to the engine only to find out what really happened. He did not remain chief for too long after this.

[@jaywilliamson9860]

If you would have bothered to look in the comments of the original video, you would have seen that "the civilian" is a firefighter from a neighboring town that lives in that neighborhood and commonly responds with this department So they know each other and have worked with each other before.

[@dotar9586]

And a little appreciation for the neighbors not all standing in the middle of the street.

[@owensweetland342]

I remember reading about a Boston fire officer known as "Deck gun Kelly".

[@flyingbanana4179]

For anyone wondering, Delavan is SW of Milwaukee near Lake Geneva

[@rdbimages]

One thing I do take issue with is the Engine setting up directly in front of the fire building. I see that way too often. That area should be left open for the Ladder truck. The Engine should have pulled forward a bit. The deck gun would still have enough reach.

[@LauRoot892]

Barr

[@jaketschida7016]

Coming from a personal who has ran IC I've actually have had law enforcement remove people from the scene who wanted to help and refuse to step away and had to have one person handcuffed because he claimed to be a firefighter from another city and tried to boss/push my firefighters around. People need to quit watching Station19 and Chicago Fire

[@notmyname3883]

I love that chicago fire! PERFECT visibility in all their fires, and no apparent HEAT. And the wahmen all look like they just got out of hair and makeup - cause, of course, they did! Spend eight hours in -20F blizzard fighting structure fires, until you can't bend over anymore to pick up hose, a combination of FROZEN TURNOUTS and just plain exhaustion.

[@YourLocalCountryBoy23]

i heard a similiar Incident where In Tennessee A firefighter from a different Dept Started Giving orders put on equipement started fighting fires They took him out and Charged Him with Multiple accounts of Endangering lives and called Unwanted Help

[@noncompliant4316]

I learned a lot. Thank you for such a clear and well-illustrated explanation.

[@CUDA1970Terry]

I was a volunteer long long ago and at one of my first fires, I run up to the truck and began to pull a line. I was immediately jumped by the Fire Captain. I was told in no uncertain manner, that NO ONE pulled line from a truck until instructed by the officer in charge of the truck to do so. He was in charge as to what was to be pulled and what was to be connected. This may not be a universal method, but it was the system used by that department.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

this is only the second time in my life that i have ever seen a person that helped grab a line but the second i saw the hydrant bag it was clear that he knew them or was familiar with the apparatus. the other time it was a group of neighbors trying to help stop the spread of a two-alarm self-venting fire with exposure issues and help several minutes away due to two bridge closures. the civilians grabbed the big line and rushed with the second-due engine to the hydrant half a block away letting the firefighter get the hydrant ready to couple to the hose

[@nuclearpowerphysics5409]

He be calmly telling us “there’s a fire, nothing unusual” lol, that’s what I found funny.

[@TODD_FL44]

15yrs removed from volunteering as a firefighter for 7yrs and can at least give a hand if need be. BUT first ask! I can never forget the training taught and experiences firefighting. Plus 4yrs of in the books training in the 7yrs burns in my head for life. BUT with firefighting everyday you're always learning and always training!

[@jamesvanscoy7717]

Darken it down hit with the deck gun great job follow it up with to attack lines great job agian guys great job officer in charge of fire

[@Cthulhu4President]

Thank you for being responsible enough to fight against the "taxes give me entitlements" argument. Taxes give us roads, highways, a fire department, a police department, etc; they do not however give any civilian who thinks they know best the right to jump in and lend a hand. Because the people who generally think they know best without any sort of training usually end up screwing things up and refusing to accept the blame for it.

[@timweiss2938]

if you replay the video again you’ll see the person who jumped on the back step was waiting at the hydrant thinking that the truck was going to stop and he was gonna pull the line, obviously because the hydrant was so close to the fire scene they went with the option of hand stretching back. All in all great job by the department.

[@Thx1138sober]

If you look at the beginning of 00:32, there is a pickup truck-size or SUV vehicle with flashing emergency lights parked down the street. It looks like this FD employee got there in the pick-up truck or SUV first, then ran to the end of the street to direct and meet the engine.

[@rocks-if6uh]

Just wanted to say I enjoy your chanel and the information you share. I'm not a Firefighter just like learning and understanding the reason for why and how to behind things of interest to me.

[@davekreidenweis3126]

Well done, water quickly on the fire, hydrant connect fast, other equipment response from other direction.

[@animesavedmylife3648]

I'd imagine you're looking at serious legal charges if you interfere with an emergency being taken care of.

[@charlesrodriguez7984]

True especially if you make the situation worse by screwing it up.

[@afropick5934]

Thank you for sharing the video-good rapid attack. You address this in your video, but water curtains on the B/D sides of the structure would be my second move after determining if there's a rescue (being fully involved lends itself to little chance for rescue). From an aggressive attack perspective, I'd say this is one of the best attacks. Great job!

[@popswhippersnapper9629]

I agree 100% with comment that deck guns are underutilized. If you've got a clear shot at the body of the fire then use it, providing it's preconnected and ready to charge. I saw DCFD completely control a serious house fire in less than a minute with the deck gun alone.

[@davidweston6653]

An average engine will have around five hundred gallons on board. The first in rig shown is also a tanker, making that deck gun much more practical 🚒💨

[@LauRoot892]

Weston 😮

[@charlesrodriguez7984]

@@LauRoot892 Laura

[@clarence8117]

Those who aren't firefighters/ exposed means the fire will spread to those "exposed" locations hence why we usually try to either evacute those in those exposed houses or cool them down in such a way the fire is prevented from spreading to said houses

[@GMan-yv8cb]

Thought you were going to talk about 'passing the hydrant' and having to drag the hoses back. I went back and re-watched it, and figured, ah, it really wasn't THAT far. Probly would've been the same time either way.

[@ashscott6068]

I worked on an oil refinery, replacing the old steel fire mains with GRE. We were all trained to use the monitors, cus they came in handy for washing all the mud off the roads, or anything else we needed water for, and we were told that if we saw a fire, then sure, get water on it immediately and don't wait for the site fire crew. But a lot of other firms on site used monitors and hydrants for any damn thing they liked, and we often had to close off and dig up sections of pipe that would have been absolutely fine, but had sprung leaks because of people using the hydrants or monitors for random stuff, and just throwing them all the way open, suddenly. The place was losing millions because of it. Even new sections of GRE pipe that we'd recently laid, often got messed up because untrained people would randomly open and close block valves, or use a monitor to get water to make concrete, (even though it was sea water) and would just be too violent with the valves. We had a whole section of pipe blow off a 45 degree elbow bend, and blow up through 6 feet of dirt, leaving a huge crater, and launching big rocks into the air. Several of which were still sitting on roofs a year later. So...by all means, screw around with that stuff. Someone will get some overtime out of it...OR...someone may just die because you opened a valve too fast and now there's a crater where a monitor should be.

[@Jacob-mm8xq]

Amazing work by the crews

[@nickluther263]

Considering there is a comander or volunteer car literally in view with flashing full red as the engine screams into the turn im going to say its probably a fire fighter that actually was in contact with the responding units and told that truck exactly where they needed to go and where to stop for the fastest hydrant access, also adding on the second truck didn't even hint at making the turn it went right on by to set up on the back of the fire.

[@LauRoot892]

Luther 😊

[@kgbiggie9871]

I was going to say at first I thought they did not leave enough room for the truck to get in front of the address I’m glad I watched the rest of the video. Command did a hell of a job coordinating everything. As far as the person helping out, with my department (suburban volunteer) we do not like anyone touching any equipment unless their station is on the assignment. Primarily for insurance reasons. If they are a civilian With zero fire training or someone we do not recognize we appreciate the help but in the heat of the moment you will probably get screamed at. We are very fortunate to have adequate manpower and seating assignments where are first and second new engine in first new truck have their responsibilities. Command will give orders to all other incoming units.

[@chrisalic]

Audio levels are important.

[@cheetonation]

😂

[@lewisricekrispy2]

I'm uk based and have had it before when bowling out hose had a gentleman come over and ran towards the fire with the male coupling (our hoses are about 25m long, and are joined together by male/female couplings). After screaming him to stop, he did the same thing with the second length of hose that I'd bowled out. Resulting in me having to run around and turn it the correct way. Later on he was asking if he could go a drive his car out of the semi collapsed warehouse that was still alight, and glass roof panels still smashing into the ground.

[@markkimball1569]

Nice job w that knock down. I worked ft for a suburban Dept outside of Worc ma. W 40 sq miles & M/a was a given ! Retired, but even then I’d always chk w OIC !

[@danbailey8182]

My town does the multi truck approach as well and it is very effective. I have a scanner and hear the directions all the time. This and KZbin make me a professional lol. I live behind the fire station in my town. I always wondered why the bag and what was in it. Now I know. Btw close to the back entrance to the fire hall is a hydrant and everyone trains on hydrant speed a lot.

[@TurtleSauceGaming]

I'd say any firefighter who's put any time in knows to grab the hydrant bag. New firefighters in our volly dept always get put on water supply. It's easy and it's a great way to get them involved early. And it's a crucial part of the operation that can be drilled, improved, and makes the new guy feel like he's instantly doing good. It's something that's drilled a lot, especially in my previous department. In our new department, the end of the 5 inch has a small hydrant bag strapped to it even, with spanners, a wrench, and a mallet, with a bigger bag in the back containing adapters. Most of the time though that bag on the 5 in is all you'll need. But like you said, this man most certainly works for that FD. Even a neighboring town would be odd, but I'd say you don't need to be a pump operator to know to grab the hydrant bag. As for someone who may have some experience in firefighting or first response, who happens to live near the incident and asks to help? Nah, sorry sir/madam. That's what mutual aid is for. The only time I've heard of laypersons (or trained neighbors) helping was with a cardiac arrest and the neighbor was a doctor. Even then he really wasn't able to help much, given he's not used to prehospital care. Ended up just holding the IV bags. But, props where they are due, he recognized he was out of his depth, and just asked what he could do. I think he was also not mentally ready for seeing the neighbor kid (30 something kid) in full arrest like that, but he held it together and wasn't a hinderance. But helping on a fully involved fire? I can not see this happening. Insurance companies would have a fucking field day with that one.

[@notmyname3883]

It is doing good. I spent sixteen years on a rural department in an area with virtually NO hydrants. It was not part of our training because we NEVER used them. We had ten thousand gallons of portable water on wheels. BUt whenever we did mutual aid with another department and they were using their hydrants, I paid attention and learned. So when the time came that WE actually needed to use a hydrant, I was the only one who knew what to do. It's routine, but without knowing you can be dangerous.

[@garyradtke3252]

Not a fire fighter but I was once in the Coast Guard and the need for coordination and every person to know what their part is and begin performing it quickly is the beginning of the best ending possible. You can't show up and convene a board meeting before acting.