I'm gonna try this. Thank you. I've been throwing a semi backup ball at the 10-pin to reduce the hook. Sometimes it works.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
You may find that even throwing backup is easier with this. It really helps make space under the body
@raymondlangella52769 ай бұрын
Great Video. Wish you guys did more of these type of coaching tip video’s. Simple, short and right to the point.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
More to come! We're working on it!
@Torgo19697 ай бұрын
Nice. I will take this idea with me to this weekend's tournament. A month ago at a practice session I made a concerted effort to throw my straight ball faster at the cursed 10 pin, to avoid the slight hook that makes me miss by a centimeter and thereby inspires the urge to bang my head through the floor. That has helped me bigly to the point that now I don't particularly fear the 10 pin. The other day my only 2 spares were both 10 pin pickups that kept my game clean.
@DuffyJ11119 ай бұрын
word. I'll keep this in mind during league tomorrow night.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Let us know how it works!
@ksmooth87879 ай бұрын
How did I work ?
@DuffyJ11119 ай бұрын
@@LaneSideReviews I actually only left one 10 pin for the 3 game series. The ball rolled off into the gutter and I missed it by inches but there's always next Tuesday to continue to work on it and improve.
@DuffyJ11119 ай бұрын
It was identical to Kyle Sherman's miss on the final ball vs. Packy Hanrahan yesterday.
@willysteiner9 ай бұрын
Thank you Rob i’m doing this for quite a while and it works pretty well. My problem lays on the right lanes when the Ballreturn hinders me from going far enough left. But i teach my students exactly what you recommended. It’s a great tip.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Thanks Willy!
@nickherntier21409 ай бұрын
super small 4 step approach, or even just work on a 1 or 2 step approach so you're comfortable when at a center with super close ball returns.
@nordattack9 ай бұрын
Excellent and simple vid. As a Classic Full Roller we were always taught to align our body towards our target pins.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
It seems to be a forgotten trick.
@robertjenkins257826 күн бұрын
I learned to bowl in the 50’s. This cross alley shot was standard and not thought of as a trick.
@ninjawaver18 күн бұрын
Great tip! Will practice 👍🏿
@LaneSideReviews18 күн бұрын
@@ninjawaver let us know how it goes!
@LuvBiteFGC3 ай бұрын
i had a long break and have been missing my ten pins lately, i think you guys just showed me what i was doing wrong and how to fix it, thanks! also love the frankenstrat jersey.
@LaneSideReviews3 ай бұрын
@@LuvBiteFGC we aim to please, or at least spare! Let us know how you do! EVH forever
@LuvBiteFGC3 ай бұрын
@@LaneSideReviews just bowled my league and yup, hitting almost all of my corner pins now, a couple misses due poor timing, one with not straight enough roll (haven't added a plastic ball to my arsenal, currently only a hammer arctic vibe.) my scores weren't too great, had a hard time striking, but i was able to maintain my average because i got my spare game back!
@LaneSideReviews3 ай бұрын
@@LuvBiteFGC that's what it's all about. You can't strike all the time, but you can make spares. Glad it worked. Good luck and good bowling!
@MrGilfred9 ай бұрын
When I bowled and had to spare a ten pin I lined up my shoulders and hips in line with the target that I wanted to roll the ball over. It all depended on how oily or dry the lane was all because I was afraid that even at the speed that I would use the shoot the ten pin I might cause the ball to slide into the gutter. My target was always somewhere between the third arrow on the left side and the third arrow on the right side. Between those two arrows I could accurately hit the ten pin the majority of the time. Nelson Burton Jr. even taught that you keep your shoulders and your hips lined up to your target. Nelson Burton Jr. always said that you use that alignment no matter if it is a strike ball or a spare ball.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Nelson is a smart man!
@drwisdom19 ай бұрын
I started bowling in leagues in 1979. Back then they hadn't invented spare balls yet so we had to throw our hooking ball at the 10 pin, which made it challenging especially with the right lane because the ball return could be in the way. I consider myself a good 10 pin thrower, it is my favorite common spare to pickup. But I have always squared myself to the lane so I am in the correct spot when I release the ball. Ever since the advent of spare balls I haven't thought about angling like in the video because I don't start on the far left of the lane. I just throw the ball slightly to the right.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Hopefully this will give you something to try! Let us know how you make out!
@drwisdom19 ай бұрын
@@LaneSideReviews At 67 I can't change. I probably make 10 pins over 90% of the time, average 210+, and never practice so don't want to mess up in league trying new things. On our team there is a financial punishment for missing one pin spares.
@jameskinchen21489 ай бұрын
Which balls were these that were hooking in 1979? A rubber Dick Weber Powerball? I use a Gyro II from 1979 as my spare ball now.
@drwisdom19 ай бұрын
@@jameskinchen2148 My first ball in 1979 was a black rubber Johnny Petraglia LT-48. In the 1980s I gave it to a friend so he could sub on our team. In 2004 I was visiting them and he gave it back so it is the only old ball I still have. It has my initials on it. Back then many balls looked the same so they did that so you could tell which was yours.
@jameskinchen21489 ай бұрын
@@drwisdom1 They used to engrave names or initials. Now nobody could be bothered. Not good for colorblind person like me.
@Clarkson3509 ай бұрын
Used it last night didn’t miss a 10 pin or 3610! Awesome thanks
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Nice work! Glad we could help!
@robeckel49658 ай бұрын
While I do miss 10 pins sometimes, I've never had a really hard time with them. When I hear from other people how much they despise the 10 pin spare, I never understood why. It turns out, the way I naturally bowl matches what you're explaining in this video. For once, I'm doing something in bowling the right way! I'll pass it along to friends, now that I'm aware of the trick!
@LaneSideReviews8 ай бұрын
Some things are more intuitive to people than others! You were born with an eye (or mind) for good body position!
@Swamprowdy5 ай бұрын
I chuckle when people say they hate the 10 pin; and, I tell them you'll probably never average 200 or higher because you've mentally defeated yourself. Many years I was 90-95% making ten pins because it was the one leave I developed a dependable way to make them, and for a long time it was my favorite spare. Certainly I wanted to carry more of them for higher scores, but I never despised them. Good info in this vid.
@steveperry13449 ай бұрын
nice, i'm left handed and do that from the other side to shoot the 7 pin. i line up by the right gutter and roll an end over end drop wrist cross alley straight ball over the middle arrow to the 7 pin and hopefully make the spare.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
This tip works for lefties too. Just tilt your heels towards your target!
@jameskinchen2148Ай бұрын
Good tip, as long as people understand that a small 1 or 2 degree shift in your upper body from square becomes much wider 60 feet down the lane. It’s a very subtle adjustment.
@LaneSideReviewsАй бұрын
@@jameskinchen2148 agreed
@b0wlinge8 ай бұрын
Love it! Simple and to the point. Thanks!
@LaneSideReviews8 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@TraumaER9 ай бұрын
What I did several years ago to make my % go from 50/50 to 90%+ is I also walk towards the 10 pin slightly diagonal on the approach. Works on leagues, tournament, or Nationals conditions.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@Dainslaif8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I thought your were supposed to turn your whole body and walk at the target pin, not just turn your waist and walk straight forward like he does.
@TraumaER8 ай бұрын
@@Dainslaif I tried both. Seen pros and top amateurs walk straight to the line no matter what and adjust open waist and swing angle, etc. I found that to be more variables than needed. I basically stand on 40 aim at the 20 board exactly and nail the 10 pin with end over end roll 90%+ of the time. The only time I miss is when I change any of that process causing me to miss my mark. Basically if my ball rolls over the 20 board at the dots, I nail the 10 pin head on. Also allows me to adjust for the infamous 6-7-10 split which I can pick up at a high rate.
@TaylorMadeMob956 ай бұрын
I struggled with this for years and finally say a video similar to this that said aim your body towards the 10 pin and walk to the line. Percentages went way up. I still miss on occasion, but I am no longer pulling the balls when I miss. This video confirms what I have been doing. Great video. Thanks!
@TraumaER6 ай бұрын
@@TaylorMadeMob95yeah I miss every now and then but usually because of lack of concentration or thumb issue. But yeah this technique has worked really well since I started using it a few years ago.
@davidrice61464 ай бұрын
My local pro taught me this a while back and I've since completely ditched my spare ball. I really only ever used it on naked 10s anyway.
@LaneSideReviews4 ай бұрын
Once you figure it out, you should be able to do it with any ball. Your PSO was wise!
@davidchamberlain51469 ай бұрын
I have been lining up my body for 10 pin spares for a long time. I'm going to start paying attention to where the outer edge of my left heel is. I'm thinking this will get me lined up at the same angle consistently. I feel like I'm pretty close each time, but if I can improve the consistency of the angle I'm at, it will translate to an increased conversion rate.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
It's all about consistency and repeatability! The easier you make it, the easier it is to do!
@patrickwall85179 ай бұрын
I will work on this the next time I practice.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
That's the best time to try something new!
@howieshack8069Күн бұрын
Do you still walk straight on your approach or do you follow the slightly adjusted to the angle you made by adjusting your hips and head towards the target?
@LaneSideReviewsКүн бұрын
@@howieshack8069 do everything else exactly the same as you would normally. We're not changing your approach, just your angles.
@lonestarpatriot8763 ай бұрын
This is how I shoot 10 pins. I turn my body towards it and I line the ball and my arm up directly with it. I also walk in the direction of it because that is the direction my body is pointed.
@LaneSideReviews3 ай бұрын
And how does it work for you?
@lonestarpatriot8763 ай бұрын
@LaneSideReviews It completely changed my spare shooting game when I started doing it. I had maybe 40%-50% success rate at shooting 10 pins, and now I am at about a 90%-95% success rate while shooting them. I also use the squaring up to target in every part of my game. That would be the breakpoint on my 1st ball.
@LaneSideReviews3 ай бұрын
@@lonestarpatriot876 that's a huge change! That's awesome 👍
@charlielindholm1808 ай бұрын
Called a heel adjustment which you do when you move left as lanes dry out
@LaneSideReviews8 ай бұрын
Also called the Hip shift, Heel Shift, and Body Shift. There are lots of names for it, but for some reason not everyone knows it.
@edb3877Ай бұрын
Good tip for sure. But when I shoot the 10-pin, I like to hold my arm slightly away from my body as that aligns the ball with the 10-pin naturally almost every time. I agree that walking towards the 10-pin is good, so starting on the 25 board, I end up at the 15 board at the foul line. Works well for me but others with different bowling styles might have issues with this approach but it's worth a try if you are pestered by 10-pins. I also like the "keep it simple" approach with the fewest moving parts. I use 4 steps with the swing times to the footwork: step 1 - push the ball forward to waist level; step 2 - bring the ball down to ankle level; step 3 - bring the ball back to shoulder height behind me; and step-4 bring the ball forward to deliver it on the lane. Releasing the ball so that it goes about 18" down the lane before contacting the lane. This is the smoothest and simplest bowling stroke I can manage. I've bowled in league for 50+ years and for 14 years before that and average 195. Not bad for a guy 75 years old. 😀
@LaneSideReviewsАй бұрын
Great to hear about your success with a simple approach! 🎳
@edb3877Ай бұрын
@@LaneSideReviews Thanks! Love to keep things simple if I can. 😀
@oldfatcrabby4 ай бұрын
My trick is to throw strikes. Simple, easy, and I never lament missing a 10 pin when I throw a strike.
@LaneSideReviews4 ай бұрын
Some people are blessed! I've never been able to average 300 for a season, so I'm impressed! LOL!
@oldfatcrabby4 ай бұрын
@@LaneSideReviews My average sucks, but when I get a strike I can feel relieved and say "saved an open". Thanks guys for your videos, especially those that feature "old guy Wayne". Keep up the good work.
@Treachery939 ай бұрын
I am the worst in the world in knocking down the 10-pin! I challenge anyone to prove me otherwise. :)o Thanks for the tip. I will try it.
@Torgo19697 ай бұрын
Missing the 10 by a centimeter is "bang my head through the floor" time when it hooks away just enough. I have increased the speed of my spare ball going after the 10 lately and now I don't particularly fear it. Picked up 2 out of 2 the other day to keep my game clean.
@ham4fun9 ай бұрын
that 2nd shot is how it always goes when I go for the 10-pin even though I always am slightly facing the 10-pin
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Could be your swing plane. Get some video!
@ham4fun9 ай бұрын
@@LaneSideReviews I got one on my page of this exact thing. also others from this last season.
@silverwingshg2 ай бұрын
My questions: Is it better to walk straight to the foul line or angled toward the 10 pin while keeping your hips/torso angled that way? If you walk toward the 10 pin how many boards are you drifting?
@LaneSideReviews2 ай бұрын
@@silverwingshg I think you'll find that you still walk the same direction, and drift the same, as you normally would. We're just opening up your body's alignment to make it easier for you to project the ball
@BowlingHeydayАй бұрын
A point to make about alignment to 10 pin pickup. The walk to deliver ball has a need to be diagonal and not up with boards. That deception of the eyes doing a imaginary path to 10 pin gets many bowlers in trouble. The hips could certainly be used to line up on cross lane shots. It is a hard technique to nail down. Better to walk a left to right path with feet then hips will naturally follow on to release. Added tip is getting a spare ball drilled conventional and use that on spares with no hook.
@LaneSideReviewsАй бұрын
Thanks for the advice, lots to think about!
@Jbmccain869 ай бұрын
Going to state the obvious, but does this apply to a strike ball when way inside the lane? On my 10 pins, I either hit it perfectly, or miss so much that the ball never comes close. I do square up my body to the lane for every throw, so I’m definitely going to give this a try!
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
The closer you get to the gutter on the ball-side, the more you should square up your shoulders.
@Jason-o5s2 ай бұрын
Cheer~~~a wooden pin used in tenpin bowling.😊
@AnthonyNovak19 ай бұрын
So I line up square to my target. Do I still walk towards the lane parallel (if I start on the 30 board, do I release the ball on the 30 board), or do I walk in the direction I'm square to? As I move left and need to make wider angles, I struggle to hit my mark more. I'm guessing this helps with those adjustments as well? I was taught 20 years ago to be rigid and square to the lane at all times. It's been so hard to unlearn it all 😅
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Just change the alignment of your feet. Walk normally towards your target. Your ball will follow your hips, which follows your shoulders.
@MrGamma-gw5zh4 ай бұрын
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@LaneSideReviews4 ай бұрын
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@SealofPerfection2 ай бұрын
@@LaneSideReviews Fully licensed from Eddie Van Halen, of course...right?
@LaneSideReviews2 ай бұрын
@@SealofPerfection well, iambowling seems to be the only guys who do license stuff, so I'm going to say maybe?
@kd30609 ай бұрын
Like the VH shirt!!
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Willie-C9 ай бұрын
3:25 .. yep that's me 50% of the time ...all the time 🤣
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
LOL! That escalated quickly!
@TTSRCLASS20119 ай бұрын
It appears that you point your feet and shoulders to the right, but you walk straight, correct?
@zedsodead9 ай бұрын
This is the question I always have. I saw a video of Del Ballard saying to walk right at the ten and seven pins, and I've seen videos telling you to walk straight. (while trying to keep yourself facing the pin?) Never really answered. It's always kind of vague.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Yes and No. You angle your body, but walk towards the line. Your Hips follow your shoulders, which follow your feet. When you get to the line, you should have walked in a pretty straight line, however, your hips and shoulders will end up slightly open when you finish. This will create the space for the ball to pass below your head, and will create more launch angle at release. Don't TRY to walk towards the ten pin though. Let your body do what it normally does.
@thewileyone19 ай бұрын
Once I've chosen which board I want to roll over, I walk directly toward it. Why wouldn't you?
@DynamicGracer9 ай бұрын
I made 107 in a row But I am one of 3000 PBA members
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
That's a good stat, even for the pba.
@DynamicGracer9 ай бұрын
@@LaneSideReviews yes, I ran the numbers and it’s a 1/500 shot for a pro for one try Walter Ray was 664/664 one PBA season for single pins, he probably has done it multiple times But most pros probably not
@tomcomparetta75752 ай бұрын
Old trick, when you put your kids in a corner you still love them, so give them a hug. Line up body like you are hugging either corner, keep arm in correct line with mark
@LaneSideReviews2 ай бұрын
@@tomcomparetta7575 an interesting description!
@edilrodriguez53886 ай бұрын
thanks I need that,,,,, I hate 10 pins !!!
@exoressdelivers709 ай бұрын
I'm a new bowler for only a year. I am right-handed, and hitting the 7 pin is no problem for me. I have a hook ball that curves to the left. I don't have to angle my body a certain way, etc. Just throw it up the 33rd board, and the ball hooks 'naturally' left at the top of the lane to hit the 7 pin. I don't need to rotate it. Is there a ball for right-hand bowlers that naturally hooks to the right so that I can throw it up, maybe the 10th board, and it naturally curves into the 10 pin at the top of the lane?
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
unfortunately, No. Not everyone can throw a backup ball at the ten-pin. It's more consistent to throw a straighter ball across the lane at it, that way the oil pattern (or lack of oil) doesn't affect the ball as much.
@MarkDavidBlack9 ай бұрын
Nice EVH shirt.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
It's pretty sweet
@panagiotisvardakis70577 ай бұрын
ETT concept from EBF! Everything Towards Target! Walking Through Target Swing Towards Target Release Towards Target.. Ect
@LaneSideReviews7 ай бұрын
No matter what country, what style of coaching, good tips are good tips. 👍
@eddywillemijns33973 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips greetings from Belgium. 🎳🎳🖐🏻
@LaneSideReviews3 ай бұрын
@@eddywillemijns3397 glad you like them!!
@RB-pc7tg8 ай бұрын
What if I make all my ten pins, how can I still increase my average by 10-20 pins?
@LaneSideReviews8 ай бұрын
Using this technique helps with 10 pins, moving laterally, and much more.
@riffmaster56Ай бұрын
Good tip, but body alignment goes without saying. As with any one pin spare, my advice is to flatten your wrist. Don't cup it to hook it. You want accuracy, and flattening your wrist allows you to roll the ball completely straight. Over the thumbhole. Blub blub blub. Sounds bad. Works good. Watch Walter Ray Williams kill the ball on one pin spares. Blub blub blub over the thumbhole. He makes probably 99.5 out of 100 one pin spares. That's 995 out of 1000. Possible balance/approach speed accounts for the five misses.
@LaneSideReviewsАй бұрын
I would agree that all those things help as well! Great info!
@michaeljamrozy4299Ай бұрын
Is Old Man Wayne in the ethos rather than savaging 10 pins?
@LaneSideReviewsАй бұрын
@@michaeljamrozy4299 that is a strong possibility. 😂
@johnnyrock8529 ай бұрын
There are days that I would actually like to throw the 10 pin.
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Yeah, we here ya!
@LongtowerNyc3 ай бұрын
I struggle with 10 pins on odd number lanes. Moreso because the ball return is in my way.
@LaneSideReviews3 ай бұрын
Adding some body angle will definitely help you then. It will allow you to address the 10 pin straighter.
@LongtowerNyc3 ай бұрын
@@LaneSideReviews Will try this.. Thank you
@BigBrainBowling9 ай бұрын
Excellent tip and excellent pre-shot booty shake!
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
We couldn't help pointing it out.
@Gk2003m9 ай бұрын
here’s my coaching tip of the day. Let me show you its features!
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Does it come in Blue? I'll take 12!
@BNatoAk2 ай бұрын
I did this and still missed it! I want my 5 minutes back!!!!
@LaneSideReviews2 ай бұрын
@@BNatoAk video or it didn't happen. 😂 😆 😂
@Really-cq2uwАй бұрын
I don’t feel comfortable angling my body, my eyes and posture don’t like. So I don’t fight it. I line up straight and roll it straight up the 4 board. I make more than I used to trying to throw across the lane. I figure it doesn’t matter where you throw it from, if you miss your target/angle, you’re going to miss the pin no matter where you start. So just do what feels comfortable. And don’t take sh!t from your teammates who want to tell you your doing it wrong.
@LaneSideReviewsАй бұрын
@@Really-cq2uw so, lots of people think this way. However, you actually decrease your miss area by doing that. First, you're throwing it in the heaviest friction area of the lane. This opens you up the ball hooking too much. By aiming through the middle you are throwing it through the most oil, guaranteeing the straightest trajectory. Second, by going cross lane you add 12 inches of miss room on either side. This increases your chances of hitting the pin by requiring less accuracy.
@gz9520Ай бұрын
I didn’t know people still went bowling.
@LaneSideReviewsАй бұрын
@@gz9520 yep! They do! Quite often!
@thebigeasy86099 ай бұрын
Sa-Weet!
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
As YooHoo!
@bradmorgan37979 ай бұрын
I’ll still miss it
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Sounds like you might want to watch our swing direction video then! kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4epqHp4iK6maas
@ScottyThompson-lt7wl9 ай бұрын
Cool video talk tech bowling
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
Thanks !
@ScottyThompson-lt7wl9 ай бұрын
@@LaneSideReviews your welcome
@fishinghuntingfool9 ай бұрын
I find it hard to believe that any bowler can’t work this out on their own,i did. It’s not that hard take the hook off your ball!
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
You're just a fast learner! Not everyone knows, or is skilled enough, to do what you did. Awesome job!
@christopherwilson70049 ай бұрын
I cheat on House Shot and throw a back up ball
@LaneSideReviews9 ай бұрын
You know, you can do both!
@christopherwilson70049 ай бұрын
@LaneSideReviews once I get to sport depending on pattern yes. I noticed Belmo starting to throw back up at some spares now. And the great Norm Duke always had a little back up rotation with his ball
@galkanftwАй бұрын
Only difference was that he didn't even try on the second shot well he tried to miss lol.
@LaneSideReviewsАй бұрын
No, that's what happens when you try to throw across your body. Never turns out well.
@LaneSideReviewsАй бұрын
No, that's what happens when you try to throw across your body. Never turns out well.
@seanboogie10Ай бұрын
"Never?" Lol
@LaneSideReviewsАй бұрын
@@seanboogie10 never? Never ever? Never ever ever?