*NEW 2023 REFRESH* CERVELO S5 (THE BIKE THAT DOMINATED THE TDF!)

[@GCPerformance18]

what do you think of the refresh for this bike, I think this is great by the company really being on top of the rules and industry to stay competitive when they are allowed too

[@vanecvetkovski]

Awesome looking bike. Love it. Great review btw👍🏻

[@darthvulcanis4002]

Never noticed before this but this S5 looks a lot more like a TT bike (without TT rims) than a normal aero bike The tape is 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ssaini5028]

Sick bike, but we need to see more De Rosa, Bianchi, Ridley, Orbea etc on the channel

[@m.a.2282]

@@ssaini5028 💯

[@waynosfotos]

I think you know what i think about Cervelo. But a great vid review GC. 👍

[@triggamusician]

So this is basically a TT bike disguised as a road bike. Beautiful! So simple looking yet so powerful!

[@GCPerformance18]

yes it is, lmao but this is what I think aero bikes should bascially be, I made a shiv back in the day with road bars

[@MBdrummer3288]

That is one MEAN ASS MACHINE! That looks fast as hell just sitting there. Damn I want to ride that thing! Nice job GC.

[@0xjdion]

Props to Cervelo for creating something unique. It’s not a boring bike for sure! Cheers

[@GCPerformance18]

100 percent agree, it is not the same cookie cutter looking bike, it is something different, and stands out from the crowd, there will always be some flaws with new models but they learn from that and get better

[@davekashuba4730]

I'm going to wait until the even more expensive and heavier 2025 model.

[@SDChillRide]

Yah... dont they give you more gears?

[@iMadrid11]

@@SDChillRide Yeah the extra cog adds an extra 1kg /s

[@andarenbici]

🤣

[@chanito_nyc]

KOM comment right here

[@charliedillon1400]

Better pre order now and put a make a down payment so maybe you can get it that year.

[@ricob2745]

I've own a s5 since 2019 that I built myself (bought the frame only) and I've had 0 issues with the steering limiter. I've also wrapped the damper in silicone so that I don't have hard metal on carbon. It did limit the turning radius a tiny bot but I've never once had an issue while riding. This bike, due to its steeply raked fork leans over on a dime. I hardly have to put in any steering input. The bike is heavy though and I would advise buying a size smaller or your exact size so you don't have to worry about cutting the seatpost. Love this bike and proud of Jumbo-Visma and cervelo.

[@Marltiod]

Only 9k ?? The price of these bikes is ridiculous. I remember buying a brand new R3 Ultegra in 2014 for about 2.6k and I tought it was expensive.

[@mericanignoranc3551]

Capitalism baby...you got to pay the rich first for the privilege of riding a bike, eating food or...lol...going to College/University . Mericans call this subseveience to the billionaire class "Freedom"...lol

[@ElKaaahleeente]

12k for the Di2 lmao. More aerodynamic this, more aerodynamic that....

[@serdiezv]

@@ElKaaahleeente 12k for the Dura Ace, this Ultegra is Di2

[@mitroffjr]

Love my 2007 S2 Carbon Soloist...the day I retire or inherit money, I will have to upgrade.

[@adamweb]

$9000! I know this is higher end and I'm beating a dead horse here but it's insane how expensive bikes have gotten... I paid $2700 for a new carbon Pinarello with Ultegra just over 4 years ago!

[@ericvutran4140]

How much does an equivalent pinarello cost today?

[@marcinstyle85]

@@ericvutran4140 14000$

[@GCPerformance18]

4 years ago, the tarmac pro was like 6500 now it is like 9000, we got inflation out the ass everywhere in the world

[@adamweb]

@@marcinstyle85 lmao basically

[@LarsRR]

@@marcinstyle85 that’s bull. A Pinarello F with Dura Ace is $14000 now, but that didn’t cost $2700 4 years ago. More like $11000 4 years ago (for the F10, DA).

[@Ironman95246]

Yo brother, you love bicycles! Your passion & enthusiasm shine through on your videos. Thank you so much for doing these for us. 😊

[@GCPerformance18]

Thank you Kirk!!! Hell yea

[@whatwouldjacobdo]

My local shop has the purple frame and silvery fork one. It’s gorgeous.

[@GCPerformance18]

I know!!! i wanted to have a video on that color but they sold it literally 2 days ago it looked so nice

[@fauntfrancisco]

Lol! After years of watching you; I see you still struggle with 17lbs. I appreciate your consistency.

[@GCPerformance18]

Hahahaha 17lbs is easy for me. It’s the kilograms that gets me everytome

[@danzosky2987]

"I don't know why I second guessed myself." Like a boss!! Hahahah.

[@GCPerformance18]

lmfao, I love these videos, I cant wait for more new products to come out so I can get back to my roots

[@danzosky2987]

We appreciate the content no matter the style! Keep doing what you love GC 🤙🏻

[@tekesbur]

Was planning to buy an SL8 next year or whatever Venge resurrect but now I'm drooling over here 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤

[@GCPerformance18]

hahahha this bike is nice right?

[@LOGICAL-JAY]

I went with the 2023 trek madone slr gen7...the cervelo S5 looks good but it has a harsh ride..the Madone SLR is fast, very comfortable and slightly lighter.. i got rid of the s-works tarmac sl7 because it had a harsh ride in the rear and it didnt keep speeds like an aero bike..

[@GCPerformance18]

I have heard that the s5 is harsh from a lot of people but they usually pair them with reserves and also like 28-30 tires so it makes itr much more comfortable

[@Numeriwar]

Can you check if they fixed the rotation limiter? On the previous model it could delaminate the headtube.

[@galenkehler]

Nice to see the big brands gradually iterating toward my own designs 👍

[@fede1275]

I'll wait for the next one with ABS disc brakes

[@GCPerformance18]

shit, would you trust it? lol

[@CycoWarriorx]

With Cervelo winning so many stages in the TdF I’m sure some manufacturers went back to their drawing boards… 😏🍻

[@carefulsum]

Yeah I'm sure the bike is the reason why the TDF was won...

[@CycoWarriorx]

@@carefulsum I thought you knew… the internet said it gave Jonas Vingegaard an extra 200 watts, so it must be true… 😁

[@brianmcg321]

Lol

[@CycoWarriorx]

@Armando Problemas … And some of us, fortunately, still have enough of a sense of humor to recognize sarcasm when they see it Armando… 🙄

[@CycoWarriorx]

@Armando Problemas 🤣🤣🤣🤣🍻

[@vitskr1]

These new scott foil and s5 are so nice looking bikes... I want to get both even though i'm too old for aero and ride domane

[@zerocool675]

pretty sure Romain Bardet was riding the Foil on stage 11 when he placed 3rd, and had big climbs that day. Was surprised they used the Foil over the Addict. Either to promote the new bike or is advancement in aero outweighing the negative aspect of the weight difference...

[@danc1829]

9kg at that price the industry is having a right laugh 😂 I get it's basically a TT bike but for the money / weight it's pretty insane its not like its going to be loads faster over other road bikes with normal handlebars... U may gain a few Watts but people get far to hung up on this who here rides at 45kph or 28mph what they do these tests at? if u can't achieve though speeds the gains will be even less.... Yes this bike won the tour but that's down to the rider I'm sure Jonas would of gotten the same result reguardless, he was the best rider...

[@testalino]

To be fair, it is 8.09kg, not 8.9kg like he said in the video. Still on the heavy side.

[@testalino]

I just checked out of curiosity. Jonas used the r5, not the s5 in most stages which is around 7kg.

[@Shadowboost]

45 kph includes any wind you experience

[@Gufolicious]

Its a nice bike and got good promo from jumbo juice. But i live in the alps and pedaling up 8,5kg every day on my rides would not be for me. Ill stay on my wilier zero slr for now. But lets see what the future holds for the industry.

[@dannyhaya]

My Cervelo S3 size 51 (rim brake) with Campagnola Shamals and Campa Super Record weights 6.9 kg, bottle cages and pedals (look) included LOL!

[@Ih8GoogleandApple]

I know it’s inflation but 9k for a mid tier bike doesn’t seem like good bang for buck. 3k for a used well cared for 11 speed rim brake bike with deep carbon wheels is more like it

[@87togabito]

Dude it’s still 3k down the drain for a trash rim brake antique bike. You might as well throw that 3k into crypto and you’d have achieved the same level of productivity as buying that old rim brake trash.

[@caed5512]

@@87togabito lmao I hope you're joking because that is a really really dumb thing to say. Bikes aren't financial investments and fundamentally an S5 and a CAAD12 with 105 serve the exact same purpose

[@charliedillon1400]

I recently bought a 2017 Tarmac Elite SL4 with Ultegra and rim brakes for $900 on Craiglist. Money left for an ergo Zipp handlebar and some as yet undetermined wheel upgrade and I'll still be around $2,500 and under 18 lbs.

[@GCPerformance18]

man, this is not a mid tier bike anymore, it is there top of the line frame they offer, and ultegra now is literally dura ace quality jsut a little heavier there is nothign else different this is not mid tiei, mid tier would be this bike with rival or something

[@markwright8030]

Killer Super Bike. I’m a Big Cervelo Fan 🚴‍♂️ Great Video as usual 👍👍👍👍👍

[@NeverUkraine]

Also won the Polka Dots too, first team since Eddy Merckx won all 3 in 1969

[@GCPerformance18]

yes this is true

[@morganconey4814]

Main reason you saw this bike dominate TDF was Wout Van Aert was riding it, don't make the mistake of thinking it was due to the bike ⚡

[@GCPerformance18]

of course of couse, I mean we all know these riders are capable of winning on any bike, same with tadej and the other riders, but when they are all around the same skill level and you have osme on a nice aero bike for the flat stages and a tt rider who is use to this geo of riding on tt, he is oging to have an advantage against the field, the man is a machine

[@cerveloultegra]

My 21 S5 with 11s Ultegra Di2 is 17 lbs with pedals and computer mount

[@GCPerformance18]

yea they gave it more aero benefits that showed it to be more dominant, there is more carbon on the bike now, this being an aero bike will benefit more from that then being lightweight

[@P4P5]

The good thing about the new 2023 Scott Foil is that i was able to get 2022 Foil RC 10 cheaper. And 2022 looks better imho.

[@GCPerformance18]

hahahah that is a funnny one but yea they did change the look completly, but good luck finding one

[@P4P5]

@@GCPerformance18 i got the last RC 10 in my country in size 56 only because a guy that ordered it decided to go with 2023 version. So i was lucky.

[@JayLato]

The fastest setup would be a low weight shallower wheel in the back and a deep dish in the front, but we don’t do that because ugly.

[@ThomasAnselmi1337]

And for crosswinds

[@GCPerformance18]

yea but you would get murdered by crosswinds

[@doarpaul1502]

Actually that's what I had, roval CL 64 on the front and fulcrum zero on the back, it significantly improved the speed on the flat and downhill And acceleration was better than having the same 64 profile on the back

[@JayLato]

@@GCPerformance18 not if you have giant gonads weighing you down.

[@jediknight3206]

I’ll be buying this bike next year. It’s an awesome bike!

[@blueromeo1974]

As a community cyclist.... Whom are people that pay 9k to ride a bike for 2-3 hours. My most expensive bike are a cannondale and a p2T3 old cervelo bike. Bought second hand under 2 to 3k in the old days. And tough that was to expensive in that time and said to my self, never buying again like that.... o those bikes are for life in case ur asking. Not to mention that headache that a carbon fiber gives me when going fast. Thinking please dont break the fork or frame in half while descending the hill.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea I hear you on that thanks for the insight

[@steveduong02]

It's back, winning the TDF again..👍

[@GCPerformance18]

this bike is a great bike for realllll

[@ThomasAnselmi1337]

Everyone complaining about the weight... tuck in and put out in the watts!

[@0xjdion]

People like weight because it’s a mesurable metric. Areo gains not so much. The fastest bike will win.

[@ThomasAnselmi1337]

@@0xjdion people need to rewatch the TDF and see how many riders chose the new Madone and S5 on rather hilly stages. Aero is king.

[@GCPerformance18]

agreed!!!

[@GCPerformance18]

agreed!!! aero is the king, this bike is claimed the most aero race bike out with 63mm carbon wheels, layered in carbonfiber to make it more aero, and also 28c massive tires, of course it is going to be heavy, but this thing wil fly on the flats

[@ThomasAnselmi1337]

@@GCPerformance18 it will fly on anything less than 7%!

[@juliusgalve6265]

8.1 kls with out pedals. May aero frame weight is 7.2 for only 2.8k usd.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea it is pig

[@juliusgalve6265]

@@GCPerformance18 bike this days you pay for heavy but clean looking bike. The 6.8. kilo

[@Jcauto-t4r]

Awesome bike but that new Scott Foil RC is a beast as well.

[@GCPerformance18]

I wanna get my hands on one so bad, I hate that they release them to the public but they are gonna take so long to get my hands on them

[@kevingilhooley2064]

Hambini says..... where's my beer.

[@nilavobose2721]

aerodynamics and light weight and a clean design... That's all I hear.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea they did a nice job

[@rickcski8082]

I like the black on matte black...looks like my Pinarello Prince. Not a big fan of the head tube/steer tube. The seat tube/seat post junction is also a bit odd. I assume you would have to cut the seat post to lower the saddle if needed? Cervelo certainly does some funky stuff.

[@Masteroiece]

I have a Cervelo and a Canyon CFR. Love them both but the CFR is also aero and at 6.8kg with a very competitive tag price of 9k with sram red components. So why get this?

[@gsmd770]

Nice,but they added weight. Trek Madone got lighter and they got heavier. The new Scott Foil is my next project. Again nice.

[@GCPerformance18]

new scott foil is a so ince, I want to see in person, but this instance the new trek they removed the isospeed which was very heavy and also put a whole in the frame lol, of course it is going to be lighter, and also to give u an example treks last year madone fully built like this would be heavier then this bike, but this bike added weight in good areas that made sense and made it more aero, for an AERO specific bike. The little bit weight gained means nothing on the flats and the more aero parts on the bikes will be huge for the consumer, also we have not seen any real world weights of the new madone with an ultegra build and also there mid tier wheels, hopefully i can bring that to you guys first but if I had to guess same size bike same depth wheels I would say the new madone would be this heavy

[@williamko4751]

It's an aero bike, not a climbing bike. Save weight with your belly.

[@josorzo11]

Prices are getting ridiculous, bike are mass produced in China the frame they selling us for 4-6k are probably made for under $800. Bike industry needs to chill .

[@mikew9743]

800 is generous more like 3-500 but the R&D and marketing and distribution cost can be easily multiple times the production cost. High end bikes are like high end automobiles its meant to be a high margin low volume product.

[@kevingilhooley2064]

@@mikew9743 .....300 might still be high in my opinion.

[@mikew9743]

@@kevingilhooley2064 gotta factor in the cost of opening molds, also labor cost has risen significantly in China

[@RyonBeachner]

What it costs to make something is irrelevant to MSRP. If you simply ignore all of the realities of running a business at scale you can say everything is over priced. Sorry it’s outside your budget?

[@SuperTaylor68]

Great review 👌👍

[@GCPerformance18]

Thanks! 👍

[@pumpkinmeerkat3692]

Good luck to all this shops that have to try to sell this. I suppose if the weight goes up the price per pound/kg goes down

[@GCPerformance18]

what do you mean these bikes are selling like crazy this shop alone got 3 in and they already left the door

[@CG-99]

It’s really damned heavy. Admittedly won the tour. But how much easier would Jumbo Visma have found the tour if their cervelos were 1kg lighter???

[@GCPerformance18]

I mean they had the option last year and they didnt do it, and also they have lighter bikes like the r5 they can ride but chose to ride these bikes for the advantage, even in some hill stages they were riding this bike

[@timothyhollmann8571]

I can't understand how the aver or even above aver rider sees this as worthwhile investment. Sponsored riders don't care what the equip costs but the manufacturers have us believing that we all need a "Farrari" for a bike even thos most of us drive Fords, Chevy and Dodges. $10,000 for a bike, that's 2 entry level motorcycles.....

[@mohamadjamil3164]

Looks like a TT bike for me. And a bit heavy. Add on the paddles and the bike is close to 8.5 kg. It would be great if you can interview riders for reviews of such bikes like cervelo or trek as compared to more skinny ones like the sl7 and pinarello

[@nationsnumber1chump]

As a sprinter this bike sexy!

[@GCPerformance18]

agreed!!

[@gaz5819]

Stunning 🤘

[@ohcrapwhatsnext]

Bad ass bike. My next bike... btw, its not the bike per say...its the rider... I need a 58 and they say its hard to get one? I want the 15degree, i like being more forward. I will trade: 1 tachyon tri full campy record and eddy merckx sc full campy record urus wheels and protons... Deal or no deal?

[@universe-juice]

that bike looks mean!!! that bikes got the devil in it 🤟

[@TheRock95484]

It seems that the aero road bikes nowadays have no differences between time trial/ tri bikes.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea they are making them flat rocket ships

[@8bikeman]

I'm in love !!!

[@GCPerformance18]

they did a good job

[@chrisl6382]

Gc do you think we’ll hear or see anything soon for specialized 2023?

[@GCPerformance18]

we are being informed very soon, I think we have meetings maybe this week, but consyumers wont see for a little but you knwo as soon as I am able to share ti I will

[@more-on-saddle]

The rival of Pinarello 'Ghost" Dogma F previously huh 😮😧? Cervélo "Ninja's " S5 Wish you could put them side by side 😂, both of them are scary bike right?

[@GCPerformance18]

That would be badass to own both

[@omarfiori]

Hello. Can you tell me which hub is mounted? Thank you

[@xcskiing_universe]

Surprising that this bike is as heavy as 8 kg’s. It’s nearly a kilogram heavier than Canyon Aeroroad for instance. But if you see how Vingegaard and Van Aert are climbing, I mean - it can’t be that bad in the uphills. When you drop Pogacar.. but I wonder if they could have gone even faster in the uphills with a lighter bike. Or what do you think? Can you feel the weight here or is it super fast no matter what gradient?

[@ekm3820]

Jumbo Visma uses the R5, which is a lighter climbing bike for mountain stages

[@noorbabelli]

Kindly question can you swap part with cervelo but with mtb wheels and gear set of shimano 1x12

[@eugenedavis6792]

Nice bike & I like that color

[@GCPerformance18]

I like it

[@aatmaDipoBhava]

I am waiting when they make a quatum mechanical model and when price tag equivalent to entire Mars Mission combined. Its a bicycle 🚲 for god sake a bicycle not Star Trek ship

[@rserton]

Interesting to see the downtube cutout for the front wheel. I recall a cervelo video from a few years ago in which is was explained that such a design feature was only good for reducing drag in a wind tunnel, since it only 'works' when the wheel is perfectly centered. As soon as the wheel is turned a tiny bit, it's less aero.

[@GCPerformance18]

okay but how often are you turning in a race? for how long of that corse, usually the wheel stays strait and usually when you are turning you are slowing down to speeds that do not matter about aero because usually that rider stands up out of the saddle to accelerate again

[@mikes1984]

@@GCPerformance18 the wind doesnt come at you directly in front all the time, its always changing directions

[@oceanzmat]

Sorry what is a 15 degree or 25 degree setback seatpost? Don't you mean 15 mm or 25 mm (or 0 mm)?

[@GCPerformance18]

yea similar take, but they measure it degrees of setback, from the middle of the bottom bracket draw a strait line up to the middel of the seatpost clamp, then this is the measure of degrees

[@manji001]

great feature! I've liked the R-series from these guys, and was on the fence about the S5 not because of the "enterprise-esque" stem(I actually love it!), but because of the bayonet steerer design's turn limiter. Will there be a durability issue with these? Thanks very much!

[@GCPerformance18]

I mean with that design there is always a limit but honestly, you will not ever reach that limit while riding the bike on the road, there will never be a turn that you will have to make that will cause that damage, the turn limiter comes into play on bike in work stand out side or windy day and the front wheel is flopping back and forth, or if in an accident then the bike can crack because of it but if you go down on a crash then there is more at risk then just that part of the bike, I mean for example look at the guys in the tour, they are riding on hairpin turns and switch backs and they dont have an issue with the turn limiter

[@winstonfreitas4697]

Bellezaaaaaa 😍

[@DeanPattrick]

Bambini had a few choice words about it 😬😎

[@ralphmartinez9919]

Sweet TT bike bro

[@romanpramuka2703]

Finally I understood why newer groupsets come with bigger gears, because bikes becomes heavier and you need these gears to compensate increased weight 😂

[@GCPerformance18]

lmao good one

[@mattismac]

2lbs heavier than my TCR with 105 for almost triple the price . Good value .

[@GCPerformance18]

yea but also u tcr is also rim brake I am guess this bike will blow ur bike away on the flats, it has such much more aero benefits

[@mattismac]

@@GCPerformance18 rim brake yes .

[@MRDTBOSS]

TCR is not an aero bike though

[@12danny21]

What's your opinion on PF BBs? Debating on getting a cervelo, but iffy on their BBs since there are some issues about creaking PF BBs. I dont think I would work on the bike myself, but there's just something about a threaded BB that seems better.

[@GCPerformance18]

threaded is more secure and less issues for creaking but honestly pf for me is the better platform, it is closer to the bike it is more aero, and when the crank sits directly on the bearing and has less distance between the two it has more direct power, I love the osbb by specialized they just needed to eb installed right and like hambini says these companies need to make bikes with perfect holes, but honestly, it is nice and as long as you have a nice shoop install a nice bb from factory and do the proper procedures, you are all set

[@peterghimme9661]

I think you need to do some arm workout especially Biceps.

[@anibaljesusdelgadillo2091]

For $9,000, that's a good deal. (Instead of $12,000 Specialized bike).

[@GCPerformance18]

haha, I hear u but specialized has a tarmac sl7 pro for 9000 with same specs as well

[@pvj9289]

Can you do the new Giant Propel?

[@GCPerformance18]

as sooon as some one has one in stock i will do it for you

[@ralphmartinez9919]

Do I get a free bottle of epo with the bike ?

[@Lixinbiz]

Cervelo S5 vs Trek Madone Gen 7, both in ultegra?

[@RevelCris]

The white and purple was in stock at my local shop for one day before someone bought BOTH sizes 51 and 54 smh

[@GCPerformance18]

that color goes so hard, I love it

[@andrewa.3304]

One sick bike!

[@michaelbrown6556]

Nice bike

[@GCPerformance18]

I like it

[@XCRiders]

Rim Brakes are safer and faster. It’s an attractive bike.

[@jmluisdeoliveiramore]

Spent about 500 miles on it and so far so good. kzbin.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA Pros:1. Very light2. Solid quality build3. Fast delivery: It arrived 5 weeks earlier than expected.4. Easy assemblyJust a few cons but nothing major:1. Cheap tin tubes and had flat on first day... but not a big deal. I replaced the tubes.2. Seat is a bit uncomfortable but that's pretty much the same situation with most bikes.3. Seat post is a bit long/high for a smaller size 48 bike - had to saw 2 inch off to fit properly. The lowest setting is too high. The post locking system does not seem to hold well (perhaps because I saw 2 inch off).4. wheels are not tubeless compatible (from what I can tell)

[@renatoslife5373]

I will wait for 2028 model That drive it self 😂😂

[@jediknight3206]

What’s the model of the display LineUp Stand?

[@bradpriest456]

Cannot wait to get one! Is there a steering stop on the 2023 model?

[@steveduong02]

I have mine for a month now. I can say the steering issue is resolved. There is a soft stop feel to the steer limiter. No issue.

[@jayashkumar5941]

This bike was really easy to assemble kzbin.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.

[@jasonng8143]

Imma scott fanboy and will want to know your view about the latest Scott Foil RC pitting against the Cervelo S5. Both bikes won stages for both TDF and TDFF while of course S5 did win the GC for TDF, the Scott Foil RC 2023 won 2 stages with Yellow and Green jerseys too for the Femme. Which one would you go for then? and of course, both bikes looks gorgeous 🤩🤩🤩Have a great one @GCPerformance!

[@GCPerformance18]

man I am not gonna lie I am a scott fan boy too, I love the new scott foil, it is so nice from what I have SEEN online but I want to see one in person btu it looks so nice and they have similar looks to the s5 but the bike should be lighter but I myself would swap from my tarmac t the new scott foil too

[@charliedillon1400]

At the World Tour level the top pros will win on whatever brand their team rides. With the possible exception of some time trial gear, all the WT bike sponsors are close enough to the same performance, otherwise riders would have more of an opinion.

[@jasonng8143]

@@GCPerformance18 ikr! it looks so so sweet , hot and whatever warm fuzzy feeling urgh. i ran out of words to describe hahah! And yes, while it looks similar to an S5, i do hope more riders give this a consideration too man. And glad to see a fellow #scottgang haha! i do hope you get to see one in flesh soon somewhat though!

[@jasonng8143]

@@charliedillon1400 yea of course! ditto to that. but i think when things gets towards the margin of diminishing returns (i.e. bike companies spend big bucks on R&D with aero bikes looking similar blah blah blah), it 's really the riders opinions that differs the bikes experience and how it will turn out to be? in terms of preference, pricing. That's why im usually quite keen to see and hear about what diff ppl feel about bikes. Could be same bike but different kind of expereince! just my 2cts! :D

[@vitskr1]

@@charliedillon1400 Yet SL7 only won one stage despite having 3 teams

[@8rk]

Nah nah... Here's what they really did. I'm guessing they addressed the horrifying design issues that were related to the front end in which the bike was basically destroying itself everytime you turn the handlebars (check Luescher Teknik videos on it) The "aero changes" are really some cosmetic changes that wouldn't even add up to 1w difference.

[@GCPerformance18]

no they did this just like trek madone and also the scott foil, yes there was an issue where if you smashed it to an extreme turn it could cause damage but a lot of bikes have this issue, bianci oltra x4 does the same thing, and also bikes in the pass as well.... its like almost like complete horizontal turn

[@tadziu2400]

@@GCPerformance18 New allez sprint was meant to be 1:1 identical as tarmac but twisting handlebars was rubbing the cables in the integrated system so they had to delay the release and they changed the front of the frame slightly compared to the tarmac

[@kcchiok]

my dream bike, how much is the retail for lowest end spec?

[@zambufly1]

if it had wireless hydraulic rim brakes, then I'd buy it.

[@GCPerformance18]

hahahha what the fuck

[@boNOOBod]

90% will have BB issues. Which will be an improvement over previous model. 😂

[@GCPerformance18]

just needs a good mechnaic to install them right

[@boNOOBod]

@@GCPerformance18 Ah yes, the round peg in a not so round hole method 😂

[@RyonBeachner]

I put 10k miles on my 2020 S5, never had an issue with the BB. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@erickd3250]

Tank

[@kjbjb6243]

Not a big fan of the s5 seat tube and wish scott foil wasn't going in the same direction. Just looks kind of odd to me when i focus on it but the bike as a whole looks fast af

[@Necromonger69]

What is wrong with s5 seat tube? Just asking out of curosity.

[@JayLato]

@@Necromonger69 Fugly

[@GCPerformance18]

yea to be honest, I didnt like the way it looked at first but then it kind of grew on me, but honestly kind of funny how scott literally took the exact same look of it, kind of bummed by that, but i guess it is proven to works

[@Robert-mn8gc]

2 Heavy . They Cervello need a Specialized Carbon Specialist 2 lighten the Frame

[@GCPerformance18]

:)

[@BruceWayne-ws6dp]

Are the s5 good for climbing?

[@GCPerformance18]

I would not say they are the greatest but any bike can climb, there are better options for climbing of course, like there r5 or the tarmac, but honestly choose the bike for the terrain you ride the most, you could get thhis bike frame and slap some 40s on there rim depth and be a nice hybrid bike

[@BruceWayne-ws6dp]

@@GCPerformance18 can the new r5 use mechanical groupset?

[@solitaryrefinement6787]

If Darth Vader road biked. 😍

[@nycyclist4154]

The bike looks cool but it’s too heavy thanks to unnecessary disk brake system. Disk brakes useless on a road bike. Disk brakes are for gravel and mountain bikes but not road bikes.

[@alexeypashchenko]

This is aero gravel bike with 34mm tires

[@aidanmasterson50]

My kind of hub. Quiet!

[@prt1226]

Any clue on when and how much the new Foils will be?

[@GCPerformance18]

Still no price yet. I am waiting to see myself. As soon as I get news I will let you know

[@drewdavis7107]

Don’t buy a Scott, the customer service if anything goes wrong is horrendous

[@AriestocrataStudio]

i'm literally watching as if i'm buying it.

[@GCPerformance18]

hahahahha make sure u take notes lol. I do the same thing for trucks i want to buy lol

[@MURRED.]

What is the maximum tire size that can be installed?

[@GCPerformance18]

35c

[@user-nu5fx6en9h]

If you have older bike you don’t really need to upgrade almost the same 😂

[@Southerncyclist]

I got the 19 S5, I can run and do run the Mechanical group set. Saved a tone of money.

[@michprent]

Will there ever be a S3 to?

[@GCPerformance18]

I do nto know, I am not a cervelo dealer but that would be a nice option but also they do builds of these bikes with rival builds and they come in around 6-7k which aint bad for a high end aero bike

[@davidfidler6449]

They are bringing back the Soloist which is likely the successor to the S3.

[@michprent]

@@davidfidler6449 that would be great, i think the s5 is to expensive, one level lower is better for my debate witch the wife 🙂