New 2023 Suzuki V-Strom 800DE: 5 Things You Need To Know! EICMA 2022

[@jasonronald4305]

Idk what others think but the design team at Suzuki are doing a damn good job!! These bikes look absolutely gorgeous, edgy and boxy, a bit retro, a bit futuristic!! Certainly different than anything out there.

[@scottsledgister1877]

Still not a V-Strom if it doesn't have a v-twin.

[@vijayam1]

It's hard to find folks who make a walkaround so complete and thorough. Kudos mate!

[@juanamaya6278]

I agree, plus delivering it in such a professional and compact package

[@alastairtheduke]

This looks so much better than the old model. Honestly, of the tenere, the new transalp, and this one, I think this one takes the cake in terms of the looks department.

[@Hemlck]

I agree…I really like the looks…and the features are good👍

[@midhungopan9270]

@No_Name V Strom DE are meant to be off-road specific just like V strom 1050DE,but there is an option as V strom 1050 with 19 inch alloy wheel version , hope they come up with a on road version of this 800cc version too

[@alastairtheduke]

@No_Name Yeah, but if you're into offroad riding, then they made it look brute. The last version looked goofy, like a surprised bird. This looks more like some futuristic grunty maurauder.

[@urbanadventurer5]

I agree. That grey and yellow option is on point.

[@davidnobular9220]

@No_Name In Australia, most roads ARE off road because the quality is generally pretty ordinary. After all the recent rain in the East, potholes are opening up everywhere, and coming back days after they are fixed. Some are 20cm+ deep and 50cm+ in diameter.....I swear I saw a Smartcar get swallowed up by a larger one recently..... Point being, road bikes that can do 350km/h are all good, but they are designed for optimal conditions. Personally, I prefer to have something that can hit a pothole and have a better chance of keeping the rider and bike in one piece.

[@mihaimihai9254]

Hi! Thanks a lot for this interesting video! As V Strom 1050 owner I'm sorry about the fact they had to give up on the V twin engine. But I'd pick a new V Strom for sure even with a parallel twin engine. At least the oil filter's gonna have a better protection! Suzuki are great motorcycles for those who don't give a damn on fancy things!

[@10vingers]

I agree, but I was in the market for a new 650. This new platform will certainly have some minor flaws so maybe I'll need to go for the old 650 or another brand.

[@mihaimihai9254]

@@10vingers Hi! Thanks for ansewering! An old 650 V-V Strom would be a great option as well. I guess you still can find a brand new one at dealers. If so you will never regret the decision of buying it. I wish you good luck and a lot of nice and safe trips no matter what you're gonna decide!

[@martyn_g]

I don’t think any manufacturer can keep everyone happy.

[@PisgahGravelProject]

And the airfilter is under the seat, huge selling point for me. I'm not interested in taking the tank off once a month.

[@ripmax333]

I like it but am a bit disappointed about the rise in seat height. The V-Strom was my all-time favorite because it had an accessible seat height, You won't get extreme enduro anyway with it, a good baseplate its all it needs, and off you go having fun on the trails.

[@robertherrick6703]

In the comment section of another one of these videos, someone said there would be a lower seat option at 32.8" which is a little shorter than the stock 650 seat.

[@vebez5993]

I think the vstroms ground clearance was a little low for my off-road riding and I don’t mind one foot on the ground at all

[@martyn_g]

If they kept it the same seat height, other people would moan that there wasn’t enough ground clearance 😂

[@TheJackweiser]

Thank you so much for all the awesome EICMA coverage. 👌

[@DeathComesSwiftly]

Feel like this should be called the P strom, if it’s a parallel twin and no longer a v twim

[@martyn_g]

Or just “Strom”

[@MusicalMemeology]

@@martyn_gI always feel like they misspelt storm.

[@martyn_g]

@@MusicalMemeology ha. Apparently Strom is German for storm;)

[@anxiousappliance]

Suzuki makes really nice machines, but for a ground up revamp - seems some missed opportunity. Might be middle power but it is a heavy weight at over 500lbs. Tubed tires? 2021?

[@armadilllo]

bummer, tubed tires? Last thing I want to do on an adventure is carry tubes and tire irons and pull wheels off, leave the tubes for dedicated dirt bikes. Cruise control?

[@grahamn311]

Suzuki have knocked styling out of the park with this one, as well as the GSX-8S

[@sangeethsuresh9320]

This new V strom 800 DE from Suzuki is a very intresting bike. It looks good, has good performance also packed with decent features. Its a better upgrade from the V Strom 650. The colours are Aslo pretty nice, especially that yellow.

[@ZoltanGiber]

The lack of cruise control really surprised me. Tiger 900, Aprilia Tuareg, almost all KTMs & many of the smaller BMWs have it.. At 230Kg the Suzuki is pushing the upper limit of what I'd consider a proper weight for this category.. I'm sure it's a good bike, but I was hoping for something that can seriously compete with the current models by other manufacturers.

[@urbanadventurer5]

I hear that, but the best selling and arguably most popular bike in this category, the Tenere 700 doesn’t have any of that. People still love it. So, I am sure that the new Honda Transalp and Suzuki will be competitive if they are fun to ride too.

[@ZoltanGiber]

@@urbanadventurer5 True. The Tenere is much liked as a dual sport without all the frills.. It’s significantly lighter though. Looking at the Suzuki I got the idea of long adventure tours (heavier bike, padded wide seats, big screen, smooth engine) it could be nice to relax the wrist every now and then.

[@urbanadventurer5]

@@ZoltanGiber fair enough. The weight on the Suzuki could be a problem. We’ll see how it carries it.

[@AzTurboMini]

It either has it or it will be offered as an accessory. On Suzuki's website and under specifications... Go down to this below... Controller Area Network (CAN bus) Key to the operation of the S.I.R.S., the V-STROM 800DE uses an interconnected information network instead of a conventional wiring harness. Because it requires fewer wires, this CAN bus wiring lets the vehicle be lighter and simpler and provides a way for the advanced components - such as the cruise control - to have faster data transmission with the ECM.

[@urbanadventurer5]

@@AzTurboMini interesting, it’s unfortunate that Suzuki and Honda haven’t made it clear to media outlets that this is an option on their new bikes because multiple articles have now claimed it’s not a feature that’s available on either bike. I hope you are right.

[@ryanvallieu594]

Funny that the wet weight for the standard at 500+ is ok on this vs when people talk about the V85TT.

[@alanjones8810]

Average speed cameras on motorway especially when it's 50mph Cruise control is essential. It means you can keep your eyes on the road and not on your speedometer.

[@2lbsTrigrPull]

For you. Not for me.

[@armadilllo]

Cruise has saved me many tickets and cramps in my hand.

[@urbanadventurer5]

I get that it’s a nice feature, but people were riding bikes all over the world for years and enjoying it before we added cruise control to bikes. Lots of them did just fine at avoiding tickets and crashes too.

[@armadilllo]

@@urbanadventurer5 yeah a lot avoided polio without a vaccination too.

[@trailblazeratv6306]

Suzuki makes an excellent motorcycle. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another

[@OAK_MTN]

Why so heavy though? I would've loved to get one to replace my DR650 one day, but if it's going to tip the scales at over 500lbs I might as well just buy an Africa Twin or an older F800Gs.

[@cheetah694]

There is no replacement for the old dual-sport bikes unfortunately. But that's mainly because they are not great on the highway. And that's what we have to deal with here in Europe.

[@AzTurboMini]

KTM 690R or 890 if you want anything dirt worthy and highway capable IMO. I went from a tricked out DR to a 14 Multistrada Touring to a 17 Africa Twin DCT. The AT is a pig off road compared to the DR and I've spent $2600 on suspension upgrades that I've done myself. I'll probably be going to the 690. Good luck 👍

[@OAK_MTN]

@@AzTurboMini yeah the AT definitely is a pig in trickier sections. Total champs on dual tracks and gravel roads though! I'd honesty prefer something lighter, but not KTM500 light. Ténéré 700 and Tuareg come to mind. I'd have to test ride a KTM 690 or 890 as well!

[@AzTurboMini]

@@OAK_MTN I need something that will get me out of Phoenix and up into the mountains in a few different directions some 1.5 hours away and others 3 hours away. Probably more in the 1.5-2 hour rangr on the interstate cruising 75 minimum. The 690R will handle that no problem. The 890R will take you cross country and it's more comfortable on the highway. It has more of an ADV seat where you set down into the bike a little while the on 690R it's more of a flat seat and you're sitting more on top of the bike. If there wasn't so much weight difference if probably go for the 890R. It weighs 432lbs and the 690R weighs 350lbs. For. My riding it's very difficult to justify the right difference. I also "highly" considered the Tuareg and it is a nice bike. I like it and I have dealer support 30 minutes from my home. I bought and serviced my Ducati from them and ink comfortable with them. In the end it's a heavy dirt bike and it has a lot of nice looking plastic to get messed up dropping it so for those reasons I kinda passed on it. The Tenere too me is too top heavy and will need $2500 or so suspension work. I rode one and to be honest, I didn't care for it much besides the motor so I passed on it also. One really cool thing the 890 has the 690 doesn't is built in case savers that are kind of round and stick out 4" on each side. When you drop the bike and need to drag the front end around pointing a different direction. The bike will somewhat pivot on the case savers making it a lot easier. Anyway, I highly recommend you test ride someone's or rent one for a day or weekend through Riders Share or another rental platform of your choice to get a good feel for each one. Be blessed man and good luck. 👍🙏

[@urbanadventurer5]

I really like this one. This and the Honda Transalp 750 are the best low seat height ADV options I have seen yet. I hope they price them reasonably.

[@woodywood3388]

You think 855mm is a „low“ seat height?

[@urbanadventurer5]

@@woodywood3388 compared to most off road oriented ADV bikes, absolutely. That’s essentially the same height as the diminutive KTM 390 Adventure, which I can basically flat foot one leg on at 5’6” with a 29” inseam.

[@woodywood3388]

@@urbanadventurer5 gotcha! I have a Tiger 850 Sport and at 830mm I feel that’s a bit on the low side (I’m 6‘2“ with a 34 inch inseam). I would be more than happy with 855.

[@urbanadventurer5]

@@woodywood3388 yeah. That’s a nice one too. With the Suzuki and new Honda Transalp, you are getting a 21” front wheel too. (similar seat height, but Honda is already offering a low seat accessory). I also like that you are getting spoked wheels with these two options. Shorter riders have often had to try to get those aftermarket if they wanted them before now.

[@woodywood3388]

@@urbanadventurer5 The Tiger is very comfortable, but I don‘t believe it is a real off-roader (not that I go off road, so what would I know). The Japanese bikes (T700, Transalp, and this Suzuki seem to be more appropriate if you really want to go off the beaten path. Good luck with picking the one that‘s right for you.

[@trailruntim]

Thanks for mentioning that there's no Cruise control, that's what I was really wondering. Shame that all that tech and Ride by wire throttle, but no cruise control. Are they not going to learn from CFMoto? I'll wait for Harley to come out with their middleweight ADV.

[@dimitriskatsoulis4986]

I guess that is to keep some costumers buying the 1050

[@AzTurboMini]

It either has it or it will be offered as an accessory. On Suzuki's website and under specifications... Go down to this below... Controller Area Network (CAN bus) Key to the operation of the S.I.R.S., the V-STROM 800DE uses an interconnected information network instead of a conventional wiring harness. Because it requires fewer wires, this CAN bus wiring lets the vehicle be lighter and simpler and provides a way for the advanced components - such as the cruise control - to have faster data transmission with the ECM.

[@dmitryshuvaev3661]

Bigger tank than on the Transalp. That is more important than the cruise control. I like it. Thank you!

[@originalkontrol]

Quite a huge fan of Suzuki's design language these days, including this new Strom. Looks good, but the competition is insane these. Glad I'm not currently in the ADV purchasing market! As always, great vid!

[@markthomas2166]

Looks like a great bike, I like the TFT display but honestly? I'm sticking with my 650 Vee. I'm a happy camper. 😎

[@Stevens007one]

Too Heavy...my 1st gen Wee is almost 32 lb lighter not counting the 3lbs for the extra fuel which actually makes it around 35lbs lighter with equal amount of fuel.. and it's still too tall for me to flat foot... and no CC.... also the price is going to make a difference... I think I will hang on to my '05 Wee for a while!

[@neilmackinnon3371]

As a VStrom 650 owner I have to say first impression is that it is not for me. I like the looks and the colours (I agree on the grey), but 21" front wheel and offroad ground clearance is not what I am after in a touring bike.

[@nairamize4996]

For you there will be the Version without DE (Dual Explorer) which is supposedly to have 19inch wheel at the front.

[@neilmackinnon3371]

@@nairamize4996 I'll see what that looks like when it is released.

[@RideFree317]

I have the Vstrom 650 as well but the restricted power version for New Zealand licence system . Seriously looking at the tiger 900 gt Pro when I get my full license but if they do a more Road focus version of the new strom I good be very tempted ,would save me a fair bit of money as well .

[@juanamaya4766]

amazing coverage of EICMA. can't wait to for the translap!!!!!

[@motobob]

Yes mate! Thanks for your continued support - I really appreciate your comments

[@AzTurboMini]

@@motobob It either has cruise or it will be offered as an accessory. On Suzuki's website and under specifications... Go down to this below... Controller Area Network (CAN bus) Key to the operation of the S.I.R.S., the V-STROM 800DE uses an interconnected information network instead of a conventional wiring harness. Because it requires fewer wires, this CAN bus wiring lets the vehicle be lighter and simpler and provides a way for the advanced components - such as the cruise control - to have faster data transmission with the ECM.

[@Stevens007one]

tubes in the tires? ... what happened to the tubeless spoked rims?

[@MrBenHaynes]

you gots to pay for them!

[@m3lvn415]

I think Yamaha nailed it with the simplicity of the T7. You don't want your adv bike's electronic TFT up/down dual overhead suspension lifter sensor bearing USB navigator spoke to break down in the middle of the desert.

[@darylclifford]

Middle of the desert eh? You’d have to hitch a ride on a camel then !!

[@robertrscott]

Yamaha just updated the screen for 23, they're attempting to play catchup with the electronics as we speak.

[@m3lvn415]

@@darylclifford the camel never fails 😁

[@m3lvn415]

​@@robertrscott Yes, the Rally Edition and World Raid have the modern stuff. Probably to offer customers more options and variations, but not to replace the standard version?

[@urbanadventurer5]

Name anyone that has ever happened to in say the last five years. 😂

[@MusicalMemeology]

Come on Suzuki pls add cruise and phone connectivity as options it’s 2023! If you do both I will def get this or 1050 DE.

[@maskedmotorsdiy3575]

Holy crap, you flew to Milan. Now that's dedication.

[@levigato125]

That’s like flying from Los Angles to Las Vegas for CES or Sema. No big deal.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Yeah the ECU is already controlling the throttle. A couple switches borrowed from the 1050DE, some programming, and voila...cruise control. It's a touring bike, why not?

[@gregleingang9409]

That tiny headlight. I just don't understand that. Not being seen on the road combined with no cruise control are going to be deal breakers for folks.

[@stevecrocker6904]

no cruise control and tubed tyres. Both important issues for many of us. I hope they correct these misses soon, at least as options

[@LasseJOugaard]

Hmm. I'm not as excited as some for this. It's really quite heavy (230kg) and the styling is a very mild evolution. Compared to the Transalp it's both quite a bit heavier and at the same time down on power. The decider will be the pricing.

[@cheetah694]

You're comparing bikes with different equipment and tank size. It can be price, but it can be also features that is the deciding factor.

[@AzTurboMini]

The Transalp starting price is $10,500 😉

[@patrickty9821]

Is there a reason why there are models always sitting on the bikes? To prevent full photos of the bikes?

[@tomislavloncaric920]

That small head light makes a bike less visable for other trafic.

[@Moondoggy1941]

I love the color combination. Only trick will I ever see one at a dealer.

[@turaly0n]

Both this and the transalp would be perfect, but no cruise control and tubed tires are deal breakers. Tiger 900 is still king

[@cheetah694]

Vice versa for me. Enough bikes with tubeless out there.

[@urbanadventurer5]

It relatively easy to purchase some tubeless wheels and tires down the road if you really like the bike otherwise. It’s tough for me to see that as a dealbreaker everyone keeps claiming it is as a result lol.

[@edgarheinrichs8876]

I like the looks. I have had both a the 650 and 1000 v-strom . For my on/off road riding at nearly 70 yrs old I may go with the v-strom 650 and and a dr 650. I ride slow off road. Get rid of my v-strom 1000. I can pick up those two bikes used with good aftermarket gear for about 8000 canadian. Weight and cost are a big deal for me. I also need something I can lift as I ride alone. Great overview , thanks.

[@chucklesthefireguy5356]

Suzuki 800 is HEAVY!! 504lbs!! The 901/890 are 453 lbs, the T7 is 450-ish too. A 1250 GS isn't much heavier and comes with short rider options as well as better features and off road capability. If this Suzuki comes in @ $8000 USD, then we can have another conversation....

[@downhillupside]

Yeah, they better be careful about pricing. They're putting a lot of effort into these great redesigns, and it could really go up in smoke if they aren't aggressive.

[@miloskuzmanovic]

I think price for this model will be 12-15k. No way they will mange with all this features to hit 10k. Older 650 was 10k....

[@exothermal.sprocket]

31 pounds of that is fuel. Basically a 470 pound bike when the tank is empty.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

YEAH GIVE ME AN 890 :0

[@pigtailbbq1982]

Maybe it could be a P-Strom. I have two v-stroms a 650 and a thousand. My friends with BMW GS's spend lots of money to have them maintained. I love how Suzuki makes them to be simple and not much maintenance. They make great value motorcycles.

[@balladofbalfe8914]

Looks great, only thing is - do the wheels look like regular spokes into the rim? On the XT I have there's a lip on the rim and spokes run through that, which means its tubeless from the factory, whereas I gather this new one is tubed? Given the risk of puncture and the convenience of repair, I prefer tubeless, but for 'true offroad' maybe you need tubes?, if you deflate a little does it work better on tubed tyres??? Can you aftermarket electronic cruise control on ride by wire bikes?

[@cheetah694]

Yes tubed wheels give you more options. You can play with pressure, rim locks and systems that allow you to run without any air at all (like mousses). Those are usually not street legal though.

[@SimonBrisbane]

Did they modify the foot peg position? The Vstrom 650 peg was exactly in the wrong place when I would place my foot on the ground. This is still by far the heaviest bike in this segment. No CC is a mind-numbing omission.

[@jeffbarnes8309]

You forgot to mention the quick shifter up and down. Nice review though, thanks.

[@waldo8050]

Love my '07 650 Strom, and one of the best things about it, especially where I ride, is a great headlight, supplemented with some good LEDs on the crash bars. Helps me see deer a little sooner at night. This looks like a bike I wouldn't mind in the future, but that headlight might be a deal breaker.

[@MusicalMemeology]

Yeah that headlight even if bright I worry the bugs may block it quickly and require regular cleaning.

Will there be a regular V-Strom 800?? Like a V-Strom 1050

[@roadwarrior8560]

Great, are the wheels tubeless? cruise control? heated grips?

[@Souravchaudhuri]

Is there any chance of getting road focused version of vstrom ?

[@aaronis31337]

Just replace the wheels. The vstrom has always been the road oriented choice in the ADV market.

[@silotx]

@@aaronis31337 You can't just replace the wheels you would need to also adjust the suspension / forks , the footpegs and still have a weird jerky bike.

[@chriskneifl3290]

Don't let the 21" front wheel fool you; this is a bike that's intended mainly for the road. If anything, the 21" wheel is a bit out of place on it.

[@Souravchaudhuri]

The spoke wheels are intended primarily for off-road capability I guess.This is a dual purpose bike.

[@laynetravis]

My freewind xf feels proud))

[@captarmour]

Great Video! Would love to see a Dry Sump motor to knock off that low slung Sump! What about a 90 degree Big Bang instead of 270 degree firing order

[@cheetah694]

Yeah, hate wet sump myself, but that's a road bike...

[@robertgardner5956]

Love one. I had the 650 for 2 years hard find a bike for older riders. Don't like sports or Cruiser style

[@russellbaker9459]

What I’m seeing more & more now with the machines equipped with “cruise ready” tech is selling it without to keep an MSRP incrementally less expensive then offer the cruise as an add on in the P&A catalogue. I think it is a cash grab by the manufacturers and disagree with it! Bikes like these should have it stock. Just put it in from the factory & let the customer choose for crying out loud!

[@rickybobby8224]

How is it going to be call "V" Strom if it's not a V???

[@MrBenHaynes]

It'll sound like one.

[@roadwarrior8560]

is there a cast wheel model coming, 19-17 tubeless wheels?

[@xnihilo1044]

Suzuki fan, here, sporting a new V-Strom 1050XT Adv. If this was available earlier, it may have been in the garage.

[@terrybrooks7140]

Good review as always. But I'm a bit disappointed that Suzuki put a 21 inch front wheel in it I don't understand the obsession with big front wheels when 90% of these bikes will never go off road think I'll save up a bit more and buy multistrada v2.

[@pja7]

I agree. It affects the handling, and less fun on tarmac. But maybe they’ll bring out a more road orientated version like Triumph do

[@parf2665]

Think they will bring out a road oriented version. The 1050 now has a road version and the offroad DE version.

[@MrBenHaynes]

Yep, as a budget buy for me it's now CB500X. If I wish to splash the cash, then Tiger 900GT. Both have 19" front, cast wheels and tubeless tyres. Just what's required for their weight and function.

[@cheetah694]

DE is meant to go offroad. If you don't go offroad, don't buy DE. It's that simple.

[@MrBenHaynes]

@@cheetah694 Any bike of the new V-Stroms weight is not suitable to be ridden offroad. If you wish to venture offroad, choose a lighter, less powerful bike. It's that simple.

[@virendradr]

well said sir,its great to learn the details about 800de but are you sure 650xt will go out ?

[@glaviationcph]

I prefer this over the transalp👍

[@JDeezle21]

Agreed

[@petersajo7195]

me too :-)

[@dubravkojanusic6996]

Heavver, less power ..... and so on. V strom was never a better bike then transallp.

[@jaspersilus]

Love it, I'm a Honda fan boy, but the new Transalp is so fucking dull to look at!

[@ilmatanela1816]

Me too, seems to have better suspensions. And it will cost a bit less. Suzuki = value for money and reliability

[@EugeneMatlin]

Seat height too tall. My current 650xt is already on the tall side. An extra 20mm would make it too sketchy.

[@PwnstarUK]

How are these 776 cc bikes going to work with A2 licences? there is a reason a lot of bikes are 650cc.

[@Motovibes91]

So what's the weight? If its 205kg or under the Tenere is in trouble

[@HyadumHH]

Parallel twin is not only boring, it sounds bad and has a lot of vibrations. At least the V had the nice sound and mid-range torque.

[@MrTmax74]

Thanks for covering this. The lack of cruise control is a total buzz kill though. If they ever include it, they will get my business.

[@AzTurboMini]

It either has it or it will be offered as an accessory. On Suzuki's website and under specifications... Go down to this below... Controller Area Network (CAN bus) Key to the operation of the S.I.R.S., the V-STROM 800DE uses an interconnected information network instead of a conventional wiring harness. Because it requires fewer wires, this CAN bus wiring lets the vehicle be lighter and simpler and provides a way for the advanced components - such as the cruise control - to have faster data transmission with the ECM.

[@hiltonmcconnell2563]

They hit the nail on the head with this V-Strom 800, would like a few more engine spec. All I have heard that it is a long stork with 64 MPG and with the 20 litter gas tank getting toward a perfect ADV bike to do some long touring on and not having to pick your roads. Would of like to see the Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires on it for better off road. As long as the price is not to high when you get it set up for some good off road touring, one will be sitting in my stable. I do like the Yellow.

[@scottsledgister1877]

Not a V-Strom. Don't know what it is but without a V-Twin it can't by definition be a V-Strom

[@JS-nf1sn]

No cruise? Other than that it looks awesome. You can have your phone with a Cardo on your helmet...

[@richardwitherstone7396]

Not to worried about phone connectivity but no cruise control? Other than that, nice bike.

[@simonperreault8925]

Nice review! Thank you MOTOBOB!

[@motobob]

My pleasure SP!

[@lazarsekulic2694]

Nice bike! Now there is a much more choices! Before we did not have any option in the middle weight. I got v strom 650xt but 800 DE is more complete bike. Before we had just Tenere 700 which is impossible to buy in USA.

[@Geshmaal]

Tbf with the same weight you could have a V-Strom 1000, more power too!

[@cheetah694]

@@Geshmaal It's 15 kg lighter than 1050 DE.

[@Geshmaal]

@@cheetah694 but the same weight as/slightly heavier than the 2014-2019 DL1000

[@JohnSmith-ef8nr]

It's heavier than the Africa twin 1100, so it's a heavy weight bike with a middle weight size engine.

[@67daltonknox]

The only justification for a middleweight adventure is the lighter weight, but this is 510lb - almost as heavy as me 1290SAS - so what's the point?

[@ricardo6861]

Are you going 2 motorbike live at the NEC aswell? & are you doing this full time now? Nosy me🤣👍😎

[@jackyammine5747]

Hi! Thanks for the insights, the vstrom 650 will be continued As mentioned in the release show, do you know if the new vstrom 650 will contain the new tft display?

[@cheetah694]

No, they are not changing that bike for 2023.

[@bomb00000]

Love love love that blue and yellow

[@rogerandroid2186]

So it is a P-Strom?

[@crevetteencarton2571]

About that missing cruise control, I'm expecting to see it tbh. It would be a real shame if they do not add it. I get it, it looks a little strange that it is not on the show models but I cannot imagine they won't add that feature.

[@PaydayGabeBCNV]

Dork in the Road recently reported on the TransAlp 750. Its suspension is Preload only,, and a one piece frame. Maybe the 91hp engine will compensate for those sub par components,, 🤔 but I don't really need 91hp 🤷‍♂️. And Honda is always priced higher than the competition. I think Suzuki has a better view of the segment w/the Vstrom 800. And the Gray/yellow is killer 🤩👍. Maybe Bob will report on the TransAlp asap.

[@chrishart8548]

I know thehornet will be 91hp but are you sure the tranalp isn't more like 80hp ?

[@PaydayGabeBCNV]

@@chrishart8548,, not exactly sure. Dork states 90hp. Maybe Honda will deTune it for the dirt aspect. 🤔 🤷‍♂️

[@chrishart8548]

@@PaydayGabeBCNV They should really otherwise low end power will suffer. Any off road bike (21/17 wheels )and its power at 9,000rpm + doesn't make much sense.

[@petermclennan2416]

It has 91hp, but power delivery has been tuned to better suit adventure riding. The mainframe has gone through major R&D with an integrated heavy duty subframe they managed to make it stronger and lighter than the smaller CB500x. In terms of price honda is already selling the hornet for cheaper than the mt07. And if the rumours are true the transalp will come in cheaper than the t7. The suspension is a worry though. But this is why they'll be able price it very competitively. They had to cut costs somewhere

[@apoloniii3259]

F... Just bought v strom 650-2021.......never mind, still great bike👍👍👍👍

[@khakimzhanmiras]

it’s almost like my old f800gs came back

[@chrishart8548]

Makes less horsepower and at higher rpm, less suspension travel and its heavier. Just a worse f800gs 14 years later.

[@khakimzhanmiras]

@@chrishart8548 i said “almost”

[@citizenpmd565]

230kg wet weight !! With about 81bhp. I had a vstrom 1000, it weighed 232kg but had about 105bhp. This isn't progress, also most road riders can't be bothered with inner tubes. A tourer with no cruise control. Okay then.

[@timsalabimbombassa]

230? Even if you count the extra fuell, that’s 20 Kg over the T7. Pity.

[@citizenpmd565]

@@timsalabimbombassa yep, agreed. Figures as per Suzuki GB website. Too heavy for that horsepower.

[@richardbell6105]

Do we think there will be more new bikes announced like a GS etc

[@kkiwi54]

21" front wheel, and 855mm seat height means I have no interest - I'll save money by hanging on to my '22 650 😱

[@khairirais]

Hi Bob. Is the front tyre tube and rear tubeless or both tube?

[@gabrielkopp2036]

So why the heck do the vsrom 800de come with s tiny little windscreen when the one at the show have much better one???????

[@rkharb3758]

Sir ktm 490 is showcased at eicma

[@travisdonaldstanley6420]

Well done! Strong work!

[@billfish5913]

Looks tasty. I liked the VSTROM 650, but it was a little small for traveling with the wife. The 800 looks a little bigger and more powerful. It would have to be the black and blue one. Not a yellow kind of guy.😎👍

[@l.a.raustadt518]

Great news! Now more earlier Wee Strom's will hit the market! Winning!

[@smashy_smasherton]

True dat. I’ll be able to get a deal on a 650 with all the mods soon enough.

[@michaeljohndelmundo4741]

With all of that "upgrades" and with inflation and all that s**t , no way in hell this thing is going to be 10k. Since when in the last decade have suzuki's been not on the above average price range. And thats is with old tech on their bikes (which are still really good). I suggest not speculating on the price and just report on whats revealed.

[@gtrguy17]

Love this bike! Good power/torque. It's going to come down to price.

[@andyw237]

Finally a manufacturer who actually pays attention! Suzuki actually LISTENED to the riders, they made what people have been asking for.

[@NorCalSaint]

What were you asking for a heavier mid-weight?

[@themoog3889]

I remember the Versys getting slated for the stacked headlight in 2012 , obviously just ahead of its time !.....not keen tbh , I think the 650 should have been made to look like the 1050 in 2019 !

[@cheetah694]

All V-Stroms used to be ugly, regardless of displacement. This is the first one where I see the design team was working hard and not slouching.

[@stanleyblazeraznik6047]

Alloy wheels for those of us who will never take it off road.

[@MrBenHaynes]

Tubes as well? 🙄

[@steve-wu7jp]

Exactly and alloy wheels are fine for off road as long as you are not slamming them on big rocks.

[@Grahamvfr]

You mean 'most' not 'those' haha

[@FelipeRollin]

Tube tires is something that I can’t take anymore for traveling… big fault in my point of view..

[@martyn_g]

@@FelipeRollin it’s a easy task to change a tube. Once you have the technique practiced, it isn’t an issue. On long trips you need a back up tube anyway if your tyres get staked and you can’t plug it.

[@markgiles8527]

Grey looks great. So many nice bikes. BMW’s new GS?

[@kloppskalli]

i donno why the rear ends of Honda Transalp 750 and Tenere look so much slimmer. This Suzuki looks a bit bulky to me..

[@nukezat]

The question is, which to buy, the Translap or the vStrom

[@HELMETDUDE]

Hi to V800 from a 250 Vstrom owner :D

[@evoemperor3776]

They should've use the katana style headlights just like it bigger brother.

[@stewartcavanagh6862]

Deffo gonna be some sweet deals in the showroom after Xmas for older bikes with this coming in! I bet you will be able to get top spec xt with touring kit for basic money just to get rid of old strom 650 stock!

[@cheetah694]

They are not giving up on the 650 model, it's still in production for 2023. So tbh I'm not expecting big discounts, especially considering the general shortage of supplies.

[@cheetah694]

@@KevinDaken A dealer told me the price would be a little bit less than Ducati Scrambler Desert Sled.

[@DraganBakema]

In my opinion; THIS EICMA: SUZUKI WON. Both new bikes surprised me the most. The looks, the specs, the colors, the design, and displacements.But I don't get why Honda and Suzuki didn't go for cruise control. My v85tt has cruise control, 850 displacement, design..so for middleweight traveling through Europe, in my case a lot of Amsterdam-Belgrade trips..I'm keeping the guzzi here in the Netherlands (lots of rain etc, so drive-shaft is handy) but if I would choose to have a second bike just for riding in Serbia, to leave there in the garage; it would be the Suzuki.

[@ysanzgiry]

Grey does look good

[@Grahamvfr]

It's a great review... But how many riders seriously slide these things about on gravel.. I mean the cost, the shiny paint the potential for damage????

[@Lambros-A.]

Ηi there! Got any information on the bike's weight? Thanks!

[@szabolcsgaspar9441]

Idk maybe it's just me but I don't get it...all these tall and heavy bikes with 21/18 wheels. Why? 95% of the buyers will never go really offroad with a Africa Twin, a T7 a Transalp or this Vstrom. I blame the halfwit journalist for this. They were Always whining about too Little ground clearance, 19/17 alloy wheels...now thanks to them we got these monsters, that for the 95% of riders are highly compromised for the everyday riding. Thank you...

[@roadwarrior8560]

True, who the hell wants these tubed rusty spoked wobbly wheels? nobheads that's who.