New Honda Transalp OR Suzuki V-Strom 800 DE | Which Is BEST??

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@GCTO239
@GCTO239 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Transalp and it has blown me away. What a great bike!
@marcochavane3124
@marcochavane3124 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Bet it's a blast. I got tired of waiting for one here in the US. They didn't confirm it was coming here so I ended up with a Norden 901. Choice #2 was an Africa Twin but they aren't releasing 2023 ATs in the US either. No dealerships could get one and Honda would cancel pre-orders with no explanation. The dealerships later said "unofficially" that Honda was skipping this year in the US market so I would either need to wait indefinitely or choose something else. Honda corporate really needs to work on their communication skills. Definitely cost them a sale with me.
@trailrider1980
@trailrider1980 Жыл бұрын
​@@marcochavane3124how are you liking the norden?
@GCTO239
@GCTO239 Жыл бұрын
@domasvosylius4349 agreed, bro. So much BS has been witten and I couldn't care less. No regrets at all. I also got a really good deal on the bike...the suberb quickshifter and first service included.
@marcochavane3124
@marcochavane3124 Жыл бұрын
@@trailrider1980 it's an incredible bike. Everyone that's ridden it wants one. Gives you 600cc sport bike performance on the road and is just as capable as a Tenere 700 off-road.
@Deertracks123
@Deertracks123 Жыл бұрын
Haven't liked A Suzuki since the Rm 250s but this bike definitely worth a test ride
@rhamjasrami3900
@rhamjasrami3900 Жыл бұрын
Suzuki gave a gift to us in the aftermarket - the muffler is huge, which is why it's so quiet, but the catalytic converters look tiny, there's barely any breadbox under the engine. Yank off the muffler, put on a cheap aftermarket slip on, you're down 8KGs and it'll totally wake up. It's the same with the SV650.
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 Жыл бұрын
Fully stripped back V-Strom 800,with all the offroad mods done(18" rear wheel included) from Hessler, 238kg(Inc.14kg of fuel),Transalp modded the same,similar weight, but with only 11.2kg of fuel. A decat, and further pairing back, it should be possible to get to 199kg dry?
@F3udF1st
@F3udF1st Жыл бұрын
Why would you? A silent exhaust is a superior exhaust.
@ioandragulescu6063
@ioandragulescu6063 Жыл бұрын
@@F3udF1st for the weight. I did smth similar on my 19 650 XT strom, changed the exhaust and the battery for lithium, gained 7 kilos. But honestly OP, gaining 8 kilos by just changing the pipe with a legal one at least, sounds really optimistic. More like 4 maybe 5 maximum if the original is indeed really heavy. Hessler btw uses the arrow system and on my V strom with that exhaust I gained about 3.6 kilos.
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 Жыл бұрын
@@F3udF1st As an international truck driver, I can tell you,that's not true...I'm more likely to hear you than see you on the Perpherique around Paris, where I drive once a week!(RHD truck).
@rhamjasrami3900
@rhamjasrami3900 Жыл бұрын
@@F3udF1st Well then looks like they nailed it for the people who like quiet bikes :)
@dalemeadows225
@dalemeadows225 Жыл бұрын
I love the little peak at the front of the Suzuki. Very good looking bike
@quentinjackson6015
@quentinjackson6015 Жыл бұрын
Great testing of two brilliant bikes - fun and thorough! Running the bikes together and offering the views of two riders is a good format. I really enjoyed the video - thanks. Cheers.
@Vegesaurus7
@Vegesaurus7 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. This is what comparisons should be like. Love your work boys. I’m not in the market but I think I’d go the Suzi because of the suspension and the dash looks better. But I’d love to ride both and see how they feel. Would be good bikes for me.
@ragerider6283
@ragerider6283 Жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison review guys. I think you've summed it up perfectly & distinguished the bikes characters from each other really well They've essentially got to a similar place in terms of end product but take slightly different routes to get there.
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it RR, we did enjoy making this one :-)
@georgesurrey1233
@georgesurrey1233 Жыл бұрын
Thanks gents, great vid as ever, looking forward to seeing the Africa Twin against the new Vstrom DE👍
@dwahnaslowdown8887
@dwahnaslowdown8887 Жыл бұрын
I've owned two DL650s which I considered to be "pretend" adventure bikes. I liked them for their upright rider position, good visibility, and the wonderfully smooth v-twin. They were easier on my old hips and knees than most other types. Of these two, I think I would choose the Transalp. I like the styling better, and I ride 98% on road anyway. Fun video to watch, BTW.
@flippy66
@flippy66 Жыл бұрын
The DL650 is primarily a road bike, it doesn't really pretend to be anything else.
@divebobber
@divebobber 4 ай бұрын
Plus, you might be able to pick up the Honda. Not too sure about the DL.
@666dualsport
@666dualsport 14 күн бұрын
ive had 3 vstrom 650s and a 1000, they aint pretend--- they will and do go anywhere and do anything a a ktm890 will do--- ive had one of them to, the vstrom is the best adv bike ever made and the best value--- this 800 will be my next,..... riders pretend--- the bike doesnt
@richardsalsman1069
@richardsalsman1069 Жыл бұрын
I really like this format. Great to get the quick switches from bike to bike it’s a more direct comparison plus two opinions instead of one. Well done.
@jamesmegill
@jamesmegill Жыл бұрын
I would definitely take the Suzuki. Fully adjustable suspension is big deal. When dialed in for your weight, a bike becomes amazing! IMHO. Plus the magic carpet ride of longer suspension is just lovely in the real world. Nice job on the reviews! No shade to the Honda. Looks like a great bike too!
@petergruening2893
@petergruening2893 Жыл бұрын
Love these comparison videos, being from Canada it's almost impossible to get a test ride, so your comparisons really help! thanks and keep up the great content
@christiangrendel9893
@christiangrendel9893 Жыл бұрын
You don't realize what a gem of a bike the Transalp is, until you've owned one for a long time. Bullet proof, very forgiving when you're tired, you can carry crates of beer on it. So underrated.
@r6ymy
@r6ymy Жыл бұрын
Good comparison. I wouldn't be bothered about not having hand guards and a bash plate as standard, as the bits you get are usually a joke, and get replaced straight away.
@andymcclurg9524
@andymcclurg9524 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely bang on , I never order oem parts anyway, always shit quality, buy base and add yourself, unless quickshifter
@ne-adv
@ne-adv Жыл бұрын
I see the 800DE as the motorcycle you can ride long distances to get to your adventure and then ride that as well. Some folks have been calling the 800DE the DR800DE. Its big enough to do freeways and highways, but handles itself well off road. Since I have been suffering thru the DL1000XAL8 not having the suspension travel and ground clearance and the silly 19" from tire, the 800 DE is a win for me. The 800DE is not for hard enduro, I suppose, tho I always think that's more the rider than the bike, but the bike makes things easier for the rider.
@YukonC8t
@YukonC8t 11 ай бұрын
Best review I've seen Awesome job guys. USA, picking up a Transalp tomorrow. Super excited.
@marshallfischer3667
@marshallfischer3667 3 ай бұрын
Well do you like it?
@mtnbiker4480
@mtnbiker4480 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison review. I'm really liking my new-to-me '18 V-Strom 1000 for commuting. The V-Strom 800 is a very compelling package for a comfy all-rounder.
@mikelobdell2666
@mikelobdell2666 Жыл бұрын
I like where the Suzuki makes it's power lower in the range. In my opinion much more useable in day to day riding.
@johncummins3860
@johncummins3860 Жыл бұрын
True, but a Honda NC750X is even better and spend the the money you have saved on purchase on topnotch suspension upgrade - best alround adventure tourer !!
@sumo_steve45
@sumo_steve45 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!! This comparison was exactly what I was looking for.
@motoshark5847
@motoshark5847 Жыл бұрын
The Transalp is what most 500x riders asked for. Maybe Rally Raid will come to the rescue on the suspension. Maybe there are going to be a-lot of used 500x’s at Honda dealers soon ;) For me ill stick to my 500x. Love the 7/8 size, economy and do it all functionality. However that DE would be fun to test out. Great video boys!
@johnwood4448
@johnwood4448 Жыл бұрын
As fellow CB500X owner I have to agree,if the CB500X didn't do everything I wanted and asked of it,I'd be looking seriously at either of these two.But the CB500X is such a gem and always leaves me smiling and rarely leaves me wanting😊
@simulacrae
@simulacrae Жыл бұрын
I think that's the problem. I think that people wanted a smaller Africa Twin, not a bigger 500x.
@johnwood4448
@johnwood4448 Жыл бұрын
@@simulacrae did they not get both?
@simulacrae
@simulacrae Жыл бұрын
@@johnwood4448 I don't think so, the electronics are simpler, the lok is more toward the 500x and the handling is more road focused. I can't think of the Transalp as a round the world bike.
@onecookieboy
@onecookieboy Жыл бұрын
I would get the Honda, simply because it's a Honda and that means great after sales support and good resale value.
@doublex632
@doublex632 Жыл бұрын
It's a great design by Suzuki that you can actually see where you're going on a trail, no massive fairing to look over. Thanks
@johntapley2549
@johntapley2549 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Transalp. Its definately a fun bike to ride. Very comfortable. I agree about the footpegs being too far forward. There's a big weight differnce between these two bikes too, which probably helped the Honda on the acceleration test.
@_audacerider3838
@_audacerider3838 Жыл бұрын
Boys epic stuff as usual! Having Gregorio in the video is always plus cause your interaction is very natural. Just two Mates talking about bikes! Keep it coming!!
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Thanks matey!! :-)
@deanharris9331
@deanharris9331 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison again Chops. I think these middleweight adventure bike's are the way to go for all-around every day use especially if you chuck in a bit of off roading every now and then. Personally I think that the Honda would look better in the red,white and blue colours but i am loving the look of that Suzuki. 😊👌. Hard decision 🤔
@Ritalie
@Ritalie Жыл бұрын
Amazing review. For the most accurate gearbox and engine review, you should put Motul 7100 oil in both bikes. Motul oil completely changes a motorcycle into something better. It's maybe the only oil you can buy that actually dramatically improves the engine and gearbox. It felt like I had completely re-tuned my engine and installed a better clutch when I switched from special ordered Amsoil, to Motul 7100. The Amazon reviews indicate the same effect from thousands of other people who switched to Motul 7100.
@martyndunn1905
@martyndunn1905 Жыл бұрын
What a great comparison video, you and gregorio make a great team. I'm with you chops for me it would be the V-Strom, great looking bike and that colour scheme is beautiful. Personally the honda looks like a baby Africa twin which I'm not a fan of to be honest. I was out the other day and saw the V-Strom 10.50de, what an amazing looking bike. Well done guys, can't wait for the next comparison video.
@slowpoke71
@slowpoke71 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that low hanging sump hidden by the exhaust on the Honda. That's the only down fall for off-road that I see. Great review.
@tomg6284
@tomg6284 3 ай бұрын
Good point, that is a bad idea Honda.
@RiseRyder
@RiseRyder Жыл бұрын
Such a great video. Not just the specs but how does it feel. Also the voice audio is so much better than most videos. great job.
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! 😁👍
@rcvg69420
@rcvg69420 Жыл бұрын
Man I really like the look of these Suzuki's. It's on my shortlist. Enough power and gear to supercruise on the highway at 75mph + plush suspension. Be a welcome change from the well uh slow and firm CB500X I'm riding now.
@flexywing
@flexywing 9 ай бұрын
check the "new" 800 RE thats looks even better for the road
@JDeezle21
@JDeezle21 Жыл бұрын
Team Suzuki ❤
@jsmith7013
@jsmith7013 2 ай бұрын
I like both but for me, the suzuki has the air filter under the seat vs honda under the fuel tank. For that alone, I like the suzuki. Excellent review. Swapping back and forth is such a great idea. Loved the review and insanely helpful!!
@jaspreetbains2776
@jaspreetbains2776 Жыл бұрын
Just rode both back to back in Oz . Suzuki hands down and I'm a Honda fanatic
@chriskneifl3290
@chriskneifl3290 9 ай бұрын
What did you like better about the Suzuki? I've ridden it but not the Transalp.
@jaspreetbains2776
@jaspreetbains2776 9 ай бұрын
@@chriskneifl3290 smoother power delivery of the engine and riding position for me being six foot 1 on the Suzuki. Both very important for this style of bike to me and my age of 50 plus
@theonenizz
@theonenizz 4 ай бұрын
I just did the same thing. But for me its the other way around. Shows how important a test ride is =)
@graemewelch123
@graemewelch123 Ай бұрын
​@@jaspreetbains2776I looked at both in Oz. But no lcd on the suzuki?
@johndavy8801
@johndavy8801 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous group test boyz with all bases covered in a fun way,I’m mostly a road rider doing occasional tours & never really touch the dirt so I’ll best booking a demo ride on the Transalp. Keep up the great work Boys.
@cranedaddy678
@cranedaddy678 11 ай бұрын
Your "grunt" test race is really telling and one reason I went with the Suzuki. Coming from a cruiser background I really like having the power on demand in low and mid range over having to spin up the motor to red line to get my power. It is definitely a hard choice and if money was no concern I think I would have both plus hundreds more bikes in my garage because there are so many good bikes available these days.
@RuggedEarthMan
@RuggedEarthMan Жыл бұрын
Yes! Get the 800 DE out there with the Twin. I'll probably end up with one of those two early next year.
@cloud9847
@cloud9847 Ай бұрын
Liked and Sub'd. I can't thank you guys enough for the review. I'm riding 136 miles tomorrow to hopefully test ride a 800DE that's on sale right now. I've had my eye on a Transalp but with the price difference on sale and the performance difference off road - it'll be enough to sway me. This review was EXCELLENT.
@nikolasharvey
@nikolasharvey Жыл бұрын
Based on looks alone I would choose the Suzuki.A Transalp came past me a couple of days ago and the only reason I knew it was a transalp was not because of its looks but because it was the white,red and blue colour way.
@ioandragulescu6063
@ioandragulescu6063 Жыл бұрын
thing is the suzi looks better in real life, don't know about the transalp.
@roadwarrior8560
@roadwarrior8560 Жыл бұрын
@@ioandragulescu6063 Suzuki looks ugly in real life, great engine though.
@wirenut3020
@wirenut3020 Жыл бұрын
I’m 180 degrees the other direction. I think the Red, White and Blue Transalp looks very nice. The Suzuki looks uninspired with the atypical beak in front.
@bobo1793
@bobo1793 Жыл бұрын
@@wirenut3020 same, I can't seem to like the beak design as much, it's not bad, just meh.
@shmac96
@shmac96 Жыл бұрын
YES! FInally! Yours is the first comparison between these two that Ive seen. Thank you sirs!
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
No problem 👍👍
@brucekendall52
@brucekendall52 Жыл бұрын
Such a great realistic comparison.Thanks.
@ComfyDadShoes
@ComfyDadShoes 2 ай бұрын
I swore off Honda after owning the vfr1200x, but I sat in a transalp that fit like a glove, so I’m open to Honda again. However, the new v-strom is so beautiful and was also so comfortable, I would still take it if the right deal presented itself.
@robert549
@robert549 Жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome. I used to ride with a group and miss the fun. Looking at the Suzuki to end my riding career.
@Cheezmonka
@Cheezmonka 4 ай бұрын
I'm only 5' 8.5" tall amd 160lbs. If my legs were a couple of inches longer, I'd take the Suzuki in a heartbeat. But at my height and weight the Honda just makes way more sense. I'm on a V-Strom 650XT right now and that damn Honda is even lighter than that! Crazy.
@SkuStyle
@SkuStyle Жыл бұрын
Out of the two adv bikes, Suzuki V-Strom 800 DE is the one to have!
@zach_6297
@zach_6297 5 ай бұрын
More expensive and heavier with worse road manners. Seems like a bad choice
@Vee_231
@Vee_231 Жыл бұрын
Test rode the Transalp a few weeks ago and got one for my birthday. Picking it up from the dealer later today. Super stoked! Update: Heavy rain. Picking it up tomorrow.
@veljkovic92
@veljkovic92 6 ай бұрын
Hey, observations so far?
@Vee_231
@Vee_231 6 ай бұрын
@@veljkovic92 Worth every peso.
@derekgrant9289
@derekgrant9289 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Exactly what I needed to hear, as usual great review. Keep it up.
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Thanks!! :-)
@painsrides3616
@painsrides3616 Жыл бұрын
You two crack me up on the off-road... 😉 Of the whole crop of middle weight ADV bikes, I am going to have to get me a Suzuki 800DE to dip my boots into this adventure riding thing.
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
Make sure you take it on plenty of dirt roads, it's good on them. If you're not going off road get the honda
@braaaaaaaaaaap
@braaaaaaaaaaap Жыл бұрын
Searched your channel for a Tenere video. Didn't see one. Don't think I've ever heard you mention the Tenere. I chose one even knowing these are both on their way. It's simple, not expensive, sounds and looks amazing. Loving it :)
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
No unfortunately I have not tested one as yamaha wasn't working with me. I will be trying one soon though 👍
@miroslavstanchev4758
@miroslavstanchev4758 Жыл бұрын
Perfect comparison. Waiting for 1050de vs the africa twin. Keep it up!
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985 Жыл бұрын
I’ll make it easy -Tubeless tires, (because tubes are for dirt bikes that have a rescue vehicle nearby). -No more ground clearance/high center of gravity than necessary for the actual riding you will do. Long travel suspension sounds great until you have to pick it up
@jmsmikey
@jmsmikey Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! The first head to head on these two~ it will be VERY interesting what Yamaha does with a possible Tenere 900
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mikey!! Yes Tenere would be good in the mix as would the Aprilia
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf Жыл бұрын
Two sweet bikes. Love the VStrom in the gray & yellow. 🤩 Good to see them both on your green lanes.
@rodrigopacas9413
@rodrigopacas9413 Жыл бұрын
As always, excellent material! Lamb Chop Rides Rock! In my opinion, both motorcycles are excellent options! I think that the price of the Honda Transalp would be higher than the Vstrom if it had as standard similar suspension, hand guards, quick shifter and engine protector..... also, with all those options as standard on the Honda, the weight diference would be less.
@kaseyod113
@kaseyod113 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this side by side. Thanks for putting this together! Really enjoyed it. I guess I’ll just have to ride them both once (if) the TransAlp makes it to the states. Currently riding a 2017 Vstrom 650
@danielhoskins976
@danielhoskins976 Жыл бұрын
I agree! I have the 2017 V-Strom 650, also, and frankly it’s capable of most anything that I’m willing to do-(off highway and on a heavier bike than my trail bike). I’ve bashed my ‘bash-plate’ a couple of times, but that’s why I installed it. I LOVE the looks of this TransAlp- but the look doesn’t make the ‘ride’! These both look like great bikes!
@danielhoskins976
@danielhoskins976 Жыл бұрын
I just returned from a 2,000 mile ride into Western Canada; 3 of us on ADV’s (CB500X, & Honda DCT Africa Twin) and my bother, on a Gold Wing & 2 close friends on Victory & Indian tourers- (so all on pavement). I’d LOVE to try that same ride on either of these bikes! Our 5th or 6th trip up there; Canada and the people are both awesome!!
@keithsbitsandpieces
@keithsbitsandpieces Жыл бұрын
I test rode the transalp recently and the hornet a couple of weeks back Wow that engine, What a peach Provide one of THE best engines on the market today .. Greg , have you tried the Hornet yet ? If not , You WILL love it 😊
@ecalzo
@ecalzo Жыл бұрын
i tested both and i think i would buy the Honda too.. the V-strom 800 (i own a v-strom 650Xt) is very nice .. but the Honda impressed me a little bit more on the rider positioning and the handling ..
@refiusetotellmyname6758
@refiusetotellmyname6758 Жыл бұрын
well if you would spec them both the same, the suzi would be cheaper, because on honda you would have to go aftermarket fit suspention. Honda basically made tourer bike with just little higher suspension, where Suzuki made an all round adventure bike
@cecilwilson5442
@cecilwilson5442 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff real world thinking 🤔 biggest thing is both of you are good riders and honest in the reviews of the bikes ,, really enjoyed it 😁☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Thanks Cecil 👍
@Ritalie
@Ritalie Жыл бұрын
The Honda Transalp is the best sounding ADV bike ever made. There's nothing else that sounds as good with a fully stock exhaust. It's absolutely insanely awesome sounding. There are entire segments of reviews just doing sound performance drive by's to hear the beautiful sound.
@Brankas
@Brankas Жыл бұрын
africa twin? triumph tiger ?
@antonoat
@antonoat Жыл бұрын
Great review guys, what a choice, grunt or top end, but Hondas rarely go wrong in any respect, you pays your money and takes your choice! 👏👍😀
@starfox_wr-45e93
@starfox_wr-45e93 Жыл бұрын
That V-Strom seems super fun off-road cruiser. Just needs a can, air filter and a map by the sounds of it. Never thought I'd ever want one of these, but I'd consider it lol Feck, is this what turning 40+ is about? MW Semi-soft bikes? Soft-semis already. Christ lol 😂
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Yes same here! I'm really missing it now it's gone back 😫
@EasyGravy420
@EasyGravy420 Жыл бұрын
40years here, just finished 5 days 2600+ miles on my 2021 1250gsa.. now I think i want a vstrom setup
@simonbowen6653
@simonbowen6653 Жыл бұрын
Great side by side review. Honda seems to have pitched the TransAlp where they know the majority of buyers will use it. As a previous owner of an adventure bike how often do they actually go off road?
@IAmYourReflection
@IAmYourReflection Жыл бұрын
Depends on the rider and their location. Mine sees mostly dirt roads
@alphawolf2993
@alphawolf2993 Жыл бұрын
Yea depends where you live. I live in the mountains of western Canada and have a dual sport and an adv bike. Adv bike still spends half its life offroad!
@MikMech
@MikMech Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this Comparo'.
@ckgaming7369
@ckgaming7369 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review boys, they look like great bikes for the price. My pick goes with suzuki by a hair as i like the dirt but the only thing that annoys me with both of these bikes is a lack of OEM cruise control... that seems the only omission on face value that would add value to a long cruise down the highway.
@chadkline4268
@chadkline4268 Жыл бұрын
You can get a good throttle lock for $30.
@ckgaming7369
@ckgaming7369 Жыл бұрын
@@chadkline4268 yes you can but not quite the same as factory cruise. It feels more like a manufacturer decision to sell more 1050's as a "true" adventure bike. I don't understand why they don't have an option on the 800.
@chadkline4268
@chadkline4268 Жыл бұрын
​@@ckgaming7369 I don't think it's so simple. First, people would not be happy with a simple lock. They would want speed maintenance so that the bike maintains speed up and down hills. And that means a much greater expense. At least, another throttle controller. Then, there is liability concerns such as being accused of the auto throttle control not turning off fast enough to prevent an accident. That is why some mfrs go so far as to couple cruise control with radar sensors to prevent collisions. And costs can skyrocket when a mfrs takes responsibility for the auto control of a bike. They might need to add tilt sensors so unreasonable speeds are not maintained around sharp curves, etc. It can get complex very quickly. Maybe you want a brake sensor to turn off the cruise control, etc.
@ckgaming7369
@ckgaming7369 Жыл бұрын
@@chadkline4268 if you look across the brands, I agree it adds cost and complexity, but BMW does offer this option for their mid tier bikes for not much more.
@CraigSmith568
@CraigSmith568 9 ай бұрын
Harley offers it for $250 so I'm sure these companies could do it for less. It's a lot easier with these bikes today being throttle by wire.
@Cibotx
@Cibotx Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lively comparison! Since you are two your comparisons would be perfect to include two-up pillion ride impressions as well.
@Steve-motorcycles
@Steve-motorcycles Жыл бұрын
Best comparison I’ve seen so far. I came to the same kind of conclusions as you did. I thought the Suzuki was better suited for dirt road than the Honda. Although both do it very well. I am not confident enough to try anything serious on these adventure bikes to find there limitations. I preferred the Honda as it is easier for me at 5’9” to get my feet down and I could feel it being lighter. The Suzuki, I can get my feet down but it’s definitely harder to paddle. I am not sure the grunt test is that fair as I thought the Suzuki is geared slightly shorter. For example, the Honda cruises at 4k revs at 70 where as the Suzuki Revs 500 to 600 higher at that speed. Where as the Suzuki edges it on dirt roads and green lanes, the Honda more than edges the contest on road. The Honda engine is a real peach.
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Great minds and all that eh Steve :-)
@davidnobular9220
@davidnobular9220 Жыл бұрын
70mph (112km/h) @ 4000 RPM ? That's pretty good for a twin. 28km/h per 1000rpm - that's about the same as older model VStrom 1050.
@Propelled
@Propelled Жыл бұрын
Change the sprockets.
@rickseibel5904
@rickseibel5904 11 ай бұрын
Masterful comparison that reflects real world experience/performance without the focus on stats. In my experience of having to go to a lighter motorcycle (Africa Twin to NC750X) due to age (76), arthritis etc, I was prepared to lose a good deal of riding enjoyment. I mean the NC only has 58 hp and was touted by some reviews as being slow and boring. But it had a duel clutch transmission and therefore no clutch lever my arthritic hand was required to pull. I’m not ready for a scooter so the Honda DCT was really my only option. However, all my fears have proved unnecessary as the NC is a joy to ride. Fun with real world capabilities in curves, cruising at 60 or effortless riding at 80. Got some punch off the line and acceptable passing power. Bottom line, it’s more than the stats would suggest.
@Steve-motorcycles
@Steve-motorcycles 11 ай бұрын
@@rickseibel5904 the NC750dct is a much underrated bike. The DCT definitely has its place as your comment proves. I test rode one when it first came out and didn’t think much, but the later versions are a whole, whole lot better. The great thing with the NC750 is the weight is carried low down and also the torque makes up for any perceived lack of power. It lacks no power for 95% of road riding. In my opinion, all bikes are fun.
@MyRp123
@MyRp123 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Great job! I know I would be grateful to have either one.
@moreorlesdone1497
@moreorlesdone1497 Жыл бұрын
I would argue that the Honda doesn't necessarily have less torque in the mid range, it's just because the gearing is so tall. It's pulling a whisker under 4000rpm at 110kph! So it would be fairer to compare the acceleration from the the same revs rather than the same gear.
@dannyaustin84
@dannyaustin84 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks. I like these bikes. Africa twin, GS1250.... Lovely but so much more than I'll ever want or need. 80hp is about right for me and I think these occupy a section in the market that that'll do well. I like that you didn't just list all the stats. Super. My choice would be Suzuki.
@benb2058
@benb2058 11 ай бұрын
You always have some great reviews! No exception here You guys haveing so much fun ! Thanks for sharing I felt like I was on the third bike back ! Comentary was great ! I was waitin for an unscheduled dismount in the grass in the center of the green lane seems like its always a bit wet and at a slightly higher elevation!
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Ben 👍
@alanshearing7515
@alanshearing7515 Жыл бұрын
On Greg’s page with this , the Honda does it for me . More road based commuting, better gear box and brakes plus an engine with a sound track . The Suzuki is a good bike just for me personality not got the edge of the Honda .
@wwfww
@wwfww Жыл бұрын
I will tell you what, recently suzuki and kawaski have been the Japanese brands that listen to the consumers the most and keep their ethos
@carlospinzon9842
@carlospinzon9842 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video, cheers from Texas 🤠🍻
@spikodemiko5514
@spikodemiko5514 Жыл бұрын
Love these comparison reviews. Well done chaps 👍
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
@paulbridge6063
@paulbridge6063 Жыл бұрын
Great video guys, thoroughly enjoyed that,
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! 😁👍
@paulfowler6665
@paulfowler6665 Жыл бұрын
When's the Hornet Vs GSX-8S comparison test coming? As a new hornet owner I want to see one of your acceleration side by side tests to see if the Hornet loses out because of its so called lack of bottom end which I haven't found at all 🤔
@2001sage
@2001sage Жыл бұрын
I’ll take the Suzuki
@zach_6297
@zach_6297 5 ай бұрын
it's terrible on road and weighs way more !
@volt8684
@volt8684 3 ай бұрын
@@zach_6297eh😂
@hydroboy35th
@hydroboy35th 3 ай бұрын
@@zach_6297it’s great on road lol.
@steveparish9210
@steveparish9210 Жыл бұрын
Great test I'd say yr spot on Suzi seems better off road trans Alp little more toad. If I were actually going around the world or whatever I would pick the Suzi because of the sub frame in case of crash
@martinhughes9769
@martinhughes9769 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison, Honda is a lovely looking machine so is the suzuki , I'm not a lover of that end can on the suzuki doesn't look as good has the Honda, The conversation between you always brings a smile
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin! :-)
@florme6494
@florme6494 Жыл бұрын
Suzuki for me. I think only the price sells the Honda. But that is a personal opinion. The character in the engine might also sell a few but anything else goes to the Suzuki. If you want the Suzuki to be lighter put less fuel in. Plus it’s said it doesn’t feel its weight by reviewers.
@TaoLifeCoach
@TaoLifeCoach Жыл бұрын
Just rode the Transalp in white. I have a walkaround on my channel if you want to look. Great video btw.
@alanpark7839
@alanpark7839 Жыл бұрын
Great test, you gave an honest comparisons and opinions, very enjoyable to watch
@ticthedog6095
@ticthedog6095 Жыл бұрын
👍 great comparison review. Looks like you in West Sussex / South Downs, didn’t realise they had so many By Ways
@gavd6726
@gavd6726 Жыл бұрын
Not my type of bikes but I still like watching you and Greg doing comparisons. Good job. 👍🏼
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! 👍
@kuladeeluxe
@kuladeeluxe 4 ай бұрын
One big thing to also consider if venturing off road or just touring is that the Honda has Tubless tires. The thought of breaking down a tire in the middle of nowhere on such heavy bikes is a deal breaker for many. Most flats can be dealt with by just putting a plug in and filling up with air to get you somewhere else. Suzuki should get on that.The old vstrom 650 has spoked wheels and tubless tires.
@ozzyg82
@ozzyg82 Жыл бұрын
If the 800 DE is anything like my new Suzuki 8S, it’ll be a great bike - I couldn’t be more pleased with the 8S, it’s a frikkin beaut.
@georgem2456
@georgem2456 Жыл бұрын
Amazing review guys, excellent work. Btw, what do you use to communicate between the two of you ? Very good quality.
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
It's the cardo intercom but the audio you hear is recorded on the Gopro. So not as heard via the intercom if you know what you mean.. ?😄👍
@GuemmiBiker48
@GuemmiBiker48 Жыл бұрын
It gonna be the Transalp for me. I tested both bikes
@Sport-ns5lk
@Sport-ns5lk Жыл бұрын
I live in northern Wisconsin USA, waiting for this transalp to get to Us ….. not sure why they delay models in either side of the water? The adventure segment is only growing in the US so again why the delay. Anyway great video and info !
@kugangles9860
@kugangles9860 Жыл бұрын
It's too bad neither models offer cruise control in this day in age even if it costs extra. CC is a game changer on longer trips.
@tantrikdoka5376
@tantrikdoka5376 2 ай бұрын
With Transalp, you get the option to swap its tubed wheels with the Africa Twin tubeless wheels.
@RudigerKaiser-st9vg
@RudigerKaiser-st9vg Жыл бұрын
You Guys are bringig everything to the point. Great test from crzy riders. Thanx for this Test 👍👍👍
@Otto-AutoPilot
@Otto-AutoPilot Жыл бұрын
Keen on both these, just need to get my head round the headlight on the Transalp...
@stinkerdoodle1737
@stinkerdoodle1737 Жыл бұрын
Chops love the bike comparisons and Greg is a natural keep up the good work.👍👍
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@johnchapman117
@johnchapman117 Жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison vid Chospy, loved it, Im going to try a Suzuki off the back of it, do you think its better than a 890 Adventure.
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Not sure John been so long since I tested one.. might have to put one of them against the 790 Adventure..
@sebasbecu
@sebasbecu Жыл бұрын
@@LambChopRidesplease do ! Thanks !
@trucker-d4161
@trucker-d4161 Жыл бұрын
Big rock moto liked the suspension on the Suzuki better than his new 890
@JustAnumbr
@JustAnumbr Жыл бұрын
So, I own a 2019 crf250L Rally and am a former dl650 owner. Ive just found out about the 800de a couple days ago and have been drooling ever since. Your videos have been great to watch and I’m finding myself looking at trade in values and such. Perhaps I’ll wait until 2024 to see if any gremlins appear, and incentives as well. Suzuki is well known for discounting prior year bikes in the beginning of a new year. Great videos. Thanks for taking the time and greeting from Florida.
@neiloevocati
@neiloevocati 6 ай бұрын
Happy to have come across you Gentleman, you certainly have made it easy to choose, my 6 ft 220 lbs carcass would certainly prefer the Suzuki...Great vid!
@emgiusti88
@emgiusti88 Жыл бұрын
Great fun video! Very informative as well as entertaining. Keep it up.
@Keith-u9h
@Keith-u9h 9 ай бұрын
They’re both great bikes, You can’t go wrong with either, get the one that appeals to you and go ride! Enjoy. I’ve always liked Hondas and Yamahas But I’ll be getting this Suzuki. I just find it a little more appealing in looks to me
@drawwithdan5821
@drawwithdan5821 Жыл бұрын
I preferred the way the V Strom looked years ago. Not keen on it now. Out of these two I prefer the looks of the Honda, which I think is a nice looking bike.
@hdidane00
@hdidane00 Жыл бұрын
Transalp all day long for me . they have a new aftermarket 220mm suspension for it that would make it on par with other adjustable suspensions out there. Plus the Honda looks much better.i would even pick it over the T7. 09 HP for 208 KG hard to beat for that price point. Honda nailed it with this bike i'm on the wait list here in US to grab one. Great video guys.
@jasoncochran853
@jasoncochran853 Жыл бұрын
Glad you guys had a good time. Funny comantarry enjoyed watching and laughing with you, thanks.
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 😁👍
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