New 2024 VW ID.4 Review: The "Meh" Car That's Finally Great!

[@bfrides7800]

You’re in Colorado where you get the Federal $7500 + the state $5300 + dealer price incentives. That Pro model is cheaper than most gas midsize crossover competition.

[@JogBird]

rather than incentives, they could just lower the price

[@gregkramer5588]

Or both, seriously though, the margins may not be that great already.

[@wlsntech]

the battery is the most expensive thing. Until those go down. There’s going to be a $10-$20,000 “tax” on EVs. Battery prices have gone down over the years and will continue to but we’re not gonna get a $25,000 EV with 300 mile range and plush interior for a long while.

[@jeremysomeone]

Or you could get a better job?

[@gregkramer5588]

@@wlsntech That is weird. As an example the Blazer and the Blazer EV are about $2k difference which you would save in fuel in 2 years. I bought an 2023 Ioniq 5 (

[@ligmasugma3650]

I saw a reduction in price check it out but I don’t agree with 300miles a tank and 30 mins to charge If anything it would be a good secondary car

[@a-borgia4993]

I wish VW brought the smaller ID3 to the US. ID4 looks great... no funky looking like a Tesla or some of the Hyundais (or those old GM EVs)

[@Drewbydrew]

I’m on my knees begging for the ID.3 to come here. Or _any_ small EVs really, other than the Fiat 500e.

[@Tobi3425]

​@@Drewbydrewsize is really similar to Tesla model 3?

[@notorqsti5117]

Id.4 is pretty small itself

[@ericb9881]

Agreed, the Id.3 would have been on my short list. After the delay of the Ex30 I ended up leasing an EV significantly longer than I'd prefer. Ultimately it's a great car, but I still kind of resent the lack of true small car options in the EV space.

[@MrDonphan]

I just looked it up because I didn't know the ID3 existed and it's so nice holyyyyy

[@lifeisgood12341]

I have a 21 id4 and love it so far, I've never had issues with the infotainment system. Backlighting the lower controls is nice though edit I bought it a year ago so I never experienced the 2.0 system

[@slyguyaction]

Our first EV was a 2021 ID4 Pro S RWD we leased new. We really enjoyed it but public CCS charging was abysmal. Overall a solid car and a great EV.

[@Demobot1]

The 2024 model is how the ID.4 should have launched in 2021.

[@GF-cb8rr]

I absolutely love my 2023 Pro S AWD. Additionally, my 2023 had a purchase incentive that came with 3 years of free charging from EA 🙌🏻

[@gordanabrabson1706]

We have the 2023 Pro S 82kw battery pack. Our first EV, with 3 years free charging? Great car overall.

[@GibsonBuck]

I have a 2024 PRO S AWD...Love it.

[@Magsbravo]

How is it? Have you had any issues yet? I’m really considering one asap!! No I don’t want Tesla

[@GF-cb8rr]

​@@MagsbravoI have a 2023 in the same model and in 3 months I've put 12,000 mi on it. It is so well built and solid. I'm extremely impressed. My first VW and I'm very happy with it thus far.

[@AnilPatel-ch2sf]

I have a 2023 AWD and i love the car, its quite, fast and driving dynamics are great, i wish the Tech was better though however overall a great solid built car.

[@dianewallace6064]

You don't need a glass roof in North Carolina so that is a good feature. Would you like so more radiant heat at 96 degrees? No thanks.

[@Historyisnotwas]

Very good review! How much is the current US credit when purchasing an ID4?

[@clarkwgriswold157]

Great video Tommy. My brother has the Cupra version of the ID3. Loves it. Said he’s got used to the haptic buttons.

[@igormac88]

I did liked a lot my short time with a 2023 Id.4 a few weeks ago. Great around town, short trips, but the Pro has way too big wheels. Fast charging is getting expensive where I live, so you need to be smart and plug everywhere you can to keep running costs down, or lower than filling the tank of my 04' V6 Camry 😂

[@NewYorksFinest1]

The 5.0 software update is supposed to have remote parking and remote door unlock and lock

[@theaaronimal]

The 2024 is a HUGE improvement! It's a GREAT EV now, not just a great car.

[@kenmcclow8963]

Pro tip; holding down the rear button for a couple seconds and then using the two window switches will move all the windows at once. I think with winter tires the RWD version is fine for snow. I grew up with RWD cars with no traction control and didn’t spend any time stuck in a ditch. Cars with traction control make AWD not as necessary. But there is still not a heat pump, so range will be less in the cold. It’s clear that while VW talked about OTA, my 2023 version hasn’t gotten the new UI. I don’t know what they send OTA if anything. I don’t recommend buying at the end of a lease. I’m happy with the car, but VW credit got the payoff check in January and didn’t release the title until July. My credit union threatened to increase my interest rate if I didn’t put them on the title, so I had to pay off the loan quickly to avoid that, so I couldn’t use the money for other things. I would either buy it, or lease it and get something new at the end, rather than deal with VW Credit

[@Davran2742]

A neighbour had a '22 id4 which she said had constant, annoying problems. A couple months ago she got t-boned in an intersection (the other driver ran a red light), and while her id4 drove away, insurance wrote it off. She got a '24 pro s, and she says it's a much better car, even thought it looks basically the same.

[@Evan_Land]

Still refuse to look at this car seriously when so many basic switches are hampered. No to the rear window toggle switch on the driver door and no to haptic controls on the steering wheel.

[@testi2025]

Go and try the steering wheel buttons, they are not haptic, although you can do a sliding motion on some buttons. But you actually need to press a button, touching slightly does nothing. And the whole assembly moves down while pressed and it gives a feedback jolt.

[@maesc2001]

I don’t get the continuous complaining about the windows setup. I have never ever opened my rear windows in the past, except by accident. VW’s setup is making my life easier. 😊

[@jonq8714]

I'm considering one... can a labrador fit in the rear trunk area? I'd need to be able to transport them when we go for walks since the back seat will have a car seat for my 3 year old.

[@haanjamiis]

F••ck volume sliders and other touch buttons. Everyone hates them. It would have been interesting if Tommy could just open the windows for few seconds and get his hand wet. And try all those sliders and buttons again.

[@douglasross4629]

Good point. I never thought of that.

[@Mallen815]

They aren’t that bad to be honest with you.

[@mmbrey4973]

thanks for this quick review , 🙏🏼from berlin , will really think about leading this one ❤

[@vaimurthy]

How do you compare this with EV6, its direct competitor

[@davidmorley7495]

Long time VW driver. First choice was an ID.4 but ended up giving it a wide berth due to the shockingly bad user experience and stuck with my diesel. Then later looked at the ID.7 as a Passat owner seemed like a natural transition but no joy getting one stateside. So I bought a used Ioniq 5 and love it. VW seriously risk missing the EV transition unless they get their act together.

[@user-tx9zg5mz5p]

No glass roof 👍

[@mikeintampa250]

On Pro S right?

[@douglasross4629]

I'm actually quite happy about that. My last car was a Fiat 500 mpv with a glass roof, and one day the roof rack came loose and shattered it. The insurance company wrote the vehicle off!!! I got £5400 as a settlement figure from them.

[@daves1646]

No heat big heat loss in the up-north winter, and less heat gain in the summer. Love my ‘22 Pro RWD!!

[@BradfordSparks]

ID.4 Pro AWD can be leased for $35/mo with $0 down for 24 months but only 7,500 miles/yr. Great deal.

[@sas7388]

Where ? State ?

[@garyknight6766]

Enjoyed the VW ID4 review. Got plans to purchase 2025.

[@matobi91]

Good review! I’m between the ID5, scenic, enyaq coupe, explorer and Ioniq 6 atm. All around same lease price in the Uk so very hard choice!!!

[@lifeisgood12341]

The rear switches are lame but a trick I realized that makes it usable is if you press and hold "rear" for a few seconds till it flashes then all the windows go down at once when you press down in the switch.

[@JohnPMiller]

It's not too slow, and you can charge at EA chargers, and you really don't need a frunk, and you'll be helping Dieselgate Volkswagen, and the display doesn't seem to go black while you're driving, so it seems pretty good!

[@plegrain]

will the new software be available as an update on the older versions?

[@daves1646]

Hey Tommy, The NAV route plans with fast-charging locations, right? Does it do a good job picking/planning charge stops?? Also, does the 2024 allow manual preconditioning or only by picking DCFC from the NAV?? Thanks for the Quick Look!!

[@GF-cb8rr]

I can't speak for the manual preconditioning of a 2024. My 2023 does not have manual preconditioning of the. ....but the nav does pre-route DC charging stops along your route.

[@steveam29]

Spot on. Wish it launch in its current format. It’s a great commuter now.

[@BendyDH]

was there a recent update I should be getting? I literally just bought a 2024 ID4 S a week ago and my infotainment looks nothing like in this video

[@wadem4995]

I think the rear window toggle button is a great idea as I'm always accidentally pushing the wrong button in other cars with for window buttons.

[@dianewallace6064]

I thought what VW does best is build a spotty, under-serviced fast charging network in the US that they were forced to build but not maintain.

[@ragweedmakesmesneeze]

haha...the wisdom/irony of getting a car company known for electrical problems in their cars to build out an electrical charging network...

[@Lisbonese]

No rear-window switches, no knobs for climate control, and no regular buttons on the steering wheel?? Still meh!

[@YellowBoltTC]

Climate set to auto, volume adjusted on steering wheel….do you roll the rear windows down a lot from the front?

[@Molishious]

Although you can adapt to the bad controls on the ID 4, I don’t want to. I do like the increase in horsepower but I think if Europe can use a heat pump so can we.

[@GF-cb8rr]

​@@YellowBoltTCI could see why a critic or somebody who's using the car for the day would complain. However, with that being said, on my 2023 I became very familiar with the software integration and touch points. It's very second nature and not a big deal at all.

[@DS-mz7dy]

I could be wrong but doesn't the smaller battery capacity ID.4 have the old software and new bigger battery one has the newer software? If it does, then the bigger battery version is the way to go!

[@ericm4840]

Are the software improvements available on the lower trim levels? I thought I heard they were not.

[@godofdun]

Hidden gem now for sure.

[@ShaneHyTen]

I appreciate that you powered through the weather with your review and for that you’ve gotten another new subscriber 😊. I like VW and I’ve been looking at an AWD EV for my new car and through research I came across this one. Great video!

[@ericb9881]

Reviewers perpetually winge about the rear window switch, but I don't get it. Are people really frequently opening their rear windows? I don't open my front windows that much and I can't think of the last time I opened the back. The toggle switch would be fine by me.

[@bigbertha8]

Maybe I'm weird, but I open them all the time. I like to crack all the windows on a hot summer day.

[@ragweedmakesmesneeze]

@@bigbertha8 Yeah...if you open the front windows and don't open the backs too, you get a lot of wind/buffeting in your face while driving. And if you do open them, you get a nice flow of air without getting blasted.

[@steveh545]

Current $15K off sticker around DFW. On a purchase. Or VW is offering a $150/mos lease, lol. Base models. Or S…if that’s the base.

[@gurpreetdhaliwal4902]

Rear drum brakes and under 7” ground clearance ???

[@Demobot1]

Go look at the EV6, Ioniq 5 or even the Mustang Mach e. The ID.4 has more ground clearance than all of those.

[@vaddimka]

I'm pretty sure the 2023 AWD was higher, I compared it with Subaru Outback and it had the same clearance (like 8.4 or something) and much higher seating position. The car in the review looks lowered.

[@dianewallace6064]

I like cloth seats. They are softer than leather or fake leather.

[@marvinranaldson3457]

I found the Id4 to be a great daily EV Option.

[@ChargeToDrive]

The only change I see is the infotainment other than that it's the same ID.4 and what's up with the piano black on every place you touch on daily basis, they need to change that as well.

[@MichaelMeilech]

The ID 4 has been stopped being produced until the 9r9nlek with door locks that do not seal properly 😮😮😮

[@YankeeMav]

Oh great! This must mean it has opening/actual sunroof right? Ventilated seats?

[@hadesomegamoto7639]

Hmm I looked at the ID4 when I was shopping around and would still rather have a Rav4 Prime then and now

[@Stephen_567]

For 42k you can buy all wheel drive Mazda cx90 with more horsepower and space.

[@davidc-l9174]

I'm a diehard VW guy, having owned and driven them for nearly 30 years. We reserved an ID.4 the day the pre-orders launched. We ultimately cancelled the pre-order because of all the bugs VW was experiencing with the ID.4 at the time, but that's irrelevant to my point. My problem with ID.4 is that the Model Y exists. For either the same or less money, you objectively get a vehicle with more performance, faster DCFC, a much more robust and reliable DCFC network, better stereo, better infotainment, much more frequent software updates, a better app experience, etc. I'm not a Teslaphile, and I personally would much rather have the ID.4, but it feels like it's a few feature sets away from being "worth it" relative to the competition (i.e., the Model Y in this example). The ID.4 still feels too decontented in my opinion.

[@JimBronson]

It's not the same money when you compare the incentives, not even close.

[@hvu6037]

I had a 2016 GTI and thought it was my best car ever: performance+ econimy+ ease if modifications+cargo space. Then I met the Model Y and my paradigm shifted upward. The Model Y is simply so much better in every way and it's my best car ever.

[@davidc-l9174]

@@JimBronsonAre dealers and/or VW offering incentives? Because the Model Y is eligible for the POS Federal tax credit? And if so, are the incentives really that much? In several ways, the Model Y offers a lot more than the ID.4.

[@davidc-l9174]

@@hvu6037I don’t know, I’ve owned two Teslas now, a Y and 3, and they’re great but also leave a bit to be desired in several areas.

[@JimBronson]

@@davidc-l9174 Almost every other manufacturer than Tesla is offering huge discounts, especially on leases. With battery technology rapidly evolving, I'd personally rather not make a long term commitment. We ended up going with a Mach-E, but the VW dealer offered a lease on a Pro S for 299/mo with 1300 down, which is above and beyond the factory incentives.

[@genoDC]

I almost died when I heard "VWs most iconic car, the Tiguan" and I'm glad I didn't rage quit right then...The second time you said it I heard "type 1" but was still hyper ventilating...😂

[@henrysboy2]

Liked the review. Thx.

[@Bob-fk8vd]

No physical buttons for radio or climate control. No thank you. You can have the vehicle.

[@ninoloso]

I don't see anything wrong with having a toggle to open or close the back window from the drivers side switch.

[@gregpochet4812]

Me neither.

[@vaimurthy]

that means i have to take a look at it which is not comfortable.

[@bfrides7800]

@@vaimurthyThe back windows have switches too for back seat passengers - it’s not like you can only open/close the back window from the front seats. Plus if you hold down the rear button it opens front and back on the side chosen.

[@vaimurthy]

@@bfrides7800 i want to control the back window for my kids. Instead of one step, now i have to do 2 steps. Does it add any additional benefits?

[@daweed980]

Still meh. Majority hates touch capacitive controls, even their CEO admitted they messed up. What do they do? Keep the touch capacitive controls. No wonder they aren't selling

[@D63-p7k]

Sorry VW but touch controls for everything is still a deal breaker for me

[@manoloorz]

The lights over the rear seats look like they're judging me

[@pgilb70]

They were everywhere in Oz in 70s. Made there

[@TonyC300]

The Fisher-Price Driving Guages are WAY too SMALL! It's an after thought and cost savings so why not lower the price 8K. It looks like a motorcycle when you are in the driver seat. I'm a VW Fan and Owner but I'm still sitting on the side lines till they fix that and the Range Needs to Be 400 to 500 Miles or NO DICE!!! Charging takes forever so you better get way more range!!

[@ragweedmakesmesneeze]

I don't know if it's gotten better...I mean, you kept saying it was better, but other than adding backlights to still absurd temperature controls, I'm not sure what they did to make it better. Your level of enthusiasm for this vehicle seems out of place with actual changes...as reported here at least.

[@vaddimka]

I think they made it lower, the 2023 AWD version was at least of couple of inches taller, this one looks a bit dumped.

[@Longsnowsm]

Ford and VW on the same wave length. They updated some stuff, and still didn't address the things people expect. For example a heat pump. NO HEAT PUMP?!?! Charging speed. People hate those sliders on the screen in the ID4. I don't think the exterior appearance is a stumbling block. Hyundai/Kia is an example of a company that is actually moving, shaking, and actually trying to address the biggest complaints. They still need to get their software sorted out. VW are you listening? Why is this so hard? Tommy is soft shoeing here.

[@devinjackson1298]

😂😂😂 this car is like a Motorola, not the worst and not the best.

[@osman_zengin]

App lock\unlock is coming with ID software 5.0

[@vxnova1]

Do they roll the changes into older models like Tesla does,

[@mikebroom1866]

Hard no on any touch controls on the steering wheel.

[@BeaniesHobbies]

There is nothing great about this car it's absolutely rubbish and I should know as I've got one, keyless entry system broke within 24hours of owning it, the petrol/charging flap gets stuck, the battery range is pants, stupid touch sensors that you accidentally touch all time as they in stupid places This car is still a big MEH

[@gregpochet4812]

2021 ID4 owner here. The 3.1+ software update greatly improved the info, menu options etc.... Need to compare it to that, not the original 2.1 version. The software never was broken. Just a bit lagging, but it was quite functional. not the best by any means, but tired of people saying it was useless. Please stop it with the window buttons. People act like working the window buttons is the hardest thing in the world to do. Spoiler, it is not. No climate knobs, please people, get out of the 2000. It is 2024 now.

[@gregkramer5588]

Why should 2024 mean no climate knobs? The VW setup is not a step forward.

[@gregpochet4812]

@@gregkramer5588 IMO, it is a step forward. Some people just can't change. Can't adjust .

[@gregkramer5588]

@@gregpochet4812 It would only be a step forward if it was easier to use, it is not.

[@gregpochet4812]

@@gregkramer5588 It is easier to use, IMO.

[@vaimurthy]

why to change something which is not broken

[@matthewgrear3260]

This will be a 20k car a year from now

[@gqami]

Taking one for the team - it's just rain. Poor Tommy. Still, VW misses the mark on interior, touchscreen, window switches on door, wild man. I don't get how engineers want to re-engineer the basics.

[@gbrianjohnson]

Yet they do not update the software of the 2023's that have major issues. After my lease is up with my ID4 I will not get another VW.

[@anahatatutu]

There is no argument. We need all the incentives and action to get off of ICE vehicles ASAP that we can get.

[@drnick40]

This is how the electric cars will take over. Affordability and constant improvement. In 10-15 years wi won’t talk much about ICE tech anymore.

[@EmersonHamiltion]

7092 Tobin Trail

[@cornbread70s4]

Solid EV… thanks Tom

[@markus6635]

I have a ID 4 2023 model. I really feel Im a test driver for a unfinish car and product. Software, endless updates. Never ever a Ev car for me.from the VW.

[@HughAntony-v4c]

961 Keeling Court

[@ariannaquincy7991]

00884 Conroy Skyway

[@user-lx3je3rd1j]

My Id4 is a great disappointment. After watching this it still is inherently flawed with the user interface and no buttons.

[@Cinder-g2o]

everyone mentions the tax rebate but doesnt mention how they are more expensive than a gas car to begin with... nor do they mention how your vehicle value will plummet. We own a '22 ID.4 AWD Pro S and what was originally a $53k MSRP has a current trade in value of $22k. So if you want to lose over 50% of your cars value in 2 years and 23k miles.. buy an EV.

[@ericm4840]

Or buy any luxury car after 2 years.

[@Cinder-g2o]

@@ericm4840 yea but this isnt a luxury car, its a freakin Volkswagen. Don't get me wrong, the build quality is good, its quiet, its generally comfortable.... but as he says the software is terrible, the OEM tires suck and youre lucky if theyll last 20k miles, and their OTA updates can take months to finally push. the software was so bad that they fired the upper level management in their software division and invested $5BILLION into Rivian so they can get access to help with software development. If you're absolutely sure you want an EV, and you plan to keep if for a long time, the VW is a decent choice. But if you only keep cars a few years or you're not sure an EV will fit your lifestyle, its a useless moneypit that you will be trapped under.

[@KingsleyVictor-m8x]

381 Mertz Row

[@SandyLeif-p6f]

Nat Branch

[@JenningsWheeler-j8p]

Savanah Lakes

[@paulocarvalho9406]

This video looks like it was filmed in a car wash!

[@dalesails]

Give me true one pedal driving and I will buy it,

[@KitChester-f9n]

537 Schultz Villages

[@benderbalsam7066]

Still, in 2024, no one pedal driving.👎

[@mikefarrington7141]

Yup, no OPD means I'll never buy one. I like everything else about it, but this is a deal-breaker for me. It's so easy to add.

[@Ovationhabs]

OPD is a gimmick that adds nothing to efficiency and makes many people queasy as passengers. It’s the LAST thing I would ever use in any EV.

[@UGABrother]

@@Ovationhabs OPD greatly improves efficiency during stop-and-go driving or when descending in elevation. Also, OPD results in much smoother deceleration than normal breaking. I don't get how you think that makes people queasy.

[@HalfHappy-s9r]

949 Hilpert Island

[@Corkfish1]

Friend of mine just bought one. The next day it stranded him out of state. On a weekend. Junk.

[@superset5]

interesting because that's never ever happened with an ICE car. Nope. Never. right?

[@Corkfish1]

@@superset5 not to him it hasn't. Nope. Never.

[@thegreeneyej]

Want the buzz..

[@MerleBollard-u5n]

Osinski Skyway

[@pacificislander8503]

The software still sucks

[@ChicagoBob123]

VWs problem, Tesla exists with the model Y and delivers more for less

[@neunetifilixacc0856]

hi , dude pls just buy a new cam , the video quality is so bad

[@JoslynJane-bv4is]

72945 Cordie Dale

[@InOrlando]

Life is incredibly. Tesla was poised to wipe the floor with these bean counter run orgs and out of nowhere the Tesla CEO loses it’s mind, and here I am looking at lesser product as an option.

[@ZaraGervais-x8n]

Stuart Point

[@markanesfreeman3642]

834 Andrew Forks

[@stevehunter7402]

Giant poison batteries are good for the planet 🌎 🙄

[@frshtrds]

2 words, model three