Toyota knows that for the Australian market, they can show up late, do even less than the bare minimum, jack the prices up significantly and still sell out of order books.
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt15 күн бұрын
Because Australians.
@SydneyEV15 күн бұрын
because Australians are manly manly outdoors men that need a lux to show how manly their camping accessories are in the local shopping centre and school pickup!
@jimjellychristoff35015 күн бұрын
Nahh. Not just australia. Even in SEA. Its much worse.
@cyclemoto874415 күн бұрын
I think yota will lose more and more customers due to their behaviour. Baby boomers may be their biggest and dwindling customer base
@120downunder15 күн бұрын
So all the Toyota fan boys can now choke at the fact that they are being built in Thailand, and it’s the same old platform 😂 what a joke Toyota hilux
@PLAYER203515 күн бұрын
Classic Toyota. New front and rear bars on an ancient design and call it a day
@Lav-v9c15 күн бұрын
Why is it a surprise? What does a new platform does to you if it is not reliable? Do you even care whats underneath as long as it is tough and reliable?
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt15 күн бұрын
Classic 'every car maker in the last 50 years' facelift
@calvinbrillus650715 күн бұрын
@@Lav-v9c toyota used to be tough and reliable, but thats no longer the case
@kareembaba749815 күн бұрын
But it still sells like hotcake.
@dr.killjoy500115 күн бұрын
Probably still running the shitbox 4 cylinder 2.8 diesel too...
@djjames657615 күн бұрын
Toyota may as well put the ashtray back in to reflect its progress since the 1980s
@mitchelljack159015 күн бұрын
Vape holder
@Reotha15 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 damn id almost forgotten that some cars used to have that.
@bassman462314 күн бұрын
Ash tray is a perfect bin. Need it back
@spiggot0114 күн бұрын
Just like my 21 landcruiser
@qbi461414 күн бұрын
What else can I buy? I'm looking to replace my ranger and the new ones are ugly as sin and 20k more expensive, and rather keep my ranger than by a Triton or Datsun
@jamessegers583415 күн бұрын
Disappointing
@interceptor790515 күн бұрын
Dissapointing and gutless like the rest of the line up
@wax33315 күн бұрын
Resale value going in the poo lol
@tomekwolny560615 күн бұрын
The rest of the Toyota lineup is as disappointing. New Prado is a huge let down.
@malacoda441715 күн бұрын
Highly
@SoWereDoingWhatNow14 күн бұрын
And why do you care? Are you a shareholder?
@TVR16115 күн бұрын
New headlights, upgraded the interior touch screen to 6 inch in size, now has adblue and cost gone up by 10-15k. Probably won't be too far from the truth.
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt15 күн бұрын
You just described the last 50 years of the car industry.
@lamborghini061015 күн бұрын
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt Really? Ford came out with new engines when they last updated the ranger? Toyota are known to the absolute bare minimum yet people still buy them.
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt15 күн бұрын
@@lamborghini0610 I hear what your saying but go back and reread TVR161's original comment, then read my comment, then have a cuppa tea, have a rethink, delete your comment and start again Matt.
@HolyGrail9815 күн бұрын
@@lamborghini0610The first gen T6 came out in 2011 until 2022, so 11 years. The new ranger is basically the same T6 platform, only revised since it’s called T6.2. The V6 came out in 2016 and only started being used in the Raptor in 2021. So where’s this “new” you’re talking about? Only thing new is the design ofc. Current gen Hilux came out in 2015, thus this yr the platform is 10 yrs old. If previous trends were to be followed, like the previous gen where they were on sale from 2004-2015, Toyota would likely introduce an all new generation next year. Don’t be such a hater/ass kisser to a brand, it’s literally the car industry since like forever. Push the model as long as possible to maximize profits and minimize cost.
@450tank15 күн бұрын
@@lamborghini0610Toyota's seem to have a better resale value.
@hellothere434215 күн бұрын
I get a feeling that green digital clock will still make a return.
@Hillzy_Eighty713 күн бұрын
Ive got a blue one in the Fortuner
@hellothere434213 күн бұрын
@Hillzy_Eighty7 just noticed the work 2021 Hilux's clock is actually blue as well. Guess that's the new clock standard that Toyota will use for the next 20 years.
@strussdo12 күн бұрын
😂😂
@joelcarterramadge1839 күн бұрын
Green is much better than blue. That would actually be a welcome upgrade!
@ChrisDied8 күн бұрын
@@hellothere4342 i hate that clock... should go back to the 80's where it belongs
@nicklennox15 күн бұрын
Toyota made a triton.
@danny2xx715 күн бұрын
Oh my lord I was thinking the same thing
@stormvalestarabs15 күн бұрын
I was absolutely thinking the same thing ! So disappointing!
@oldmatelinc15 күн бұрын
Yep I'd say the same😮😂
@kajak01215 күн бұрын
you read my mind that is what i thought on first look
@factsoflife196815 күн бұрын
What do u mean by that??
@jam2theongie83615 күн бұрын
cant wait for toyota to re-release the exact same car they have been making for years but with a huge price increase for no reason. yet another toyota L
@AzzaBro5915 күн бұрын
And these body on platform cars are the most profitable one.
@bulthaosen116915 күн бұрын
Is it an L when people buy them up? It's the fault of the people.
@mattsabell541515 күн бұрын
Hilux owners will love this, no one else will though. 😂
@AzzaBro5915 күн бұрын
I dont. Own a 2019 rugged x with a gr sport on the way but didn't think I'd buy it cus a new one around the corner.... the fuck is this.
@markc782915 күн бұрын
Hilux owner here and I don't love it, or any of their new 4wds 😞 I was waiting for the new model after rumors of a V6 Hilux but I think I'll just wait for the Ranger super duty now 😬
@mattsabell541515 күн бұрын
@ it’s disappointing Toyota didn’t chuck a V6 in it. Full disclosure, I drive a Ranger but was interested to see how the next gen Hilux compares, turns out it was just a facelift …again.
@Ccristoff15 күн бұрын
If it aint broke dont fix it, i applaud Toyota, dont care for these other new trucks which are trash
@survival_shorts24613 күн бұрын
@@Ccristoff💯
@Youtubetangent14 күн бұрын
Geez, I was expecting to be underwhelmed, but this is next level. So it’s basically a mild update of an already 10 year old body, with the same drivetrain, and I guess 6 month service intervals? Astounding. Ranger it is then!
@MaCcAM40a36 күн бұрын
I went from an N80 to a next gen ranger. They honestly aren’t even comparable, the ranger is leaps and bounds the better vehicle
@Shocksink15 күн бұрын
Most toyota buyers don’t really care about design nor technology, they just want a reliable car with decent resell value
@warrenjoubert402715 күн бұрын
Agree. For me personally, I don't want issues in my life, and would happily trade off gadgets and technology for outdated old technology that just does what it is supposed to. I don't even upgrade my smartphones until they die say every 5th year cause I can't stand the hassle.
@fred352715 күн бұрын
@@warrenjoubert4027 I agree, but Toyota is milking the fact with their high prices.
@perpelle15 күн бұрын
@@fred3527 Does that matter if the resale in good? I "lost" 8-9k aud when I got an offer to trade my -21 hilux with 145 000 km on the clock. That's incredibly good outside of covid. It doesn't matter if the vehicle costs 40k or 100k of TCO is good. The only downside is interest which in many countries is deductible for companies anyway.
@fred352715 күн бұрын
@perpelle You make a good point. I think it may start to change though. I'm glad your experience with Toyota has been so good. I feel that they are trading on their reputation of old. My two experiences with Toyota weren't that great. Engine issue with one and electronics with another. In the same way that the Japanese manufacturers started to eat the European manufacturers lunch in the '70's, I think the Chinese manufacturers have started eating the Japanese manufacturers' lunch. That BYD Shark is aptly named as a shark is an eating machine.
@perpelle15 күн бұрын
@@fred3527 I will never touch a Chinese brand no matter how cheap it is but that's just me. Last week I read a long term review of a MG vs some other brands and in pure TCO a Mercedes was cheaper to own because of how incredibly horrible the resale was on the MG.
@ing840415 күн бұрын
Give it: -A 6 cylinder -Higher definition reverse/360 camera -Better trans cooling -Better suspension and brakes I don't mind paying 15-25k extra for a better hilux.
@SoWereDoingWhatNow15 күн бұрын
Tarcoma?
@ghostofdre14 күн бұрын
Tacoma won't happen and would cost even more than the Hilux. A V6 diesel, like the one in the Cruiser, won't happen because of NVES.
@saff22614 күн бұрын
Keep the 2.8l. Put a generator on the back and jam some 300kw 2 speed solid E axles under in on hydropneumatic suspension.
@selmersoprano12 күн бұрын
you'll get none of these but higher price tag. That's it.
@MaCcAM40a36 күн бұрын
Just buy a ranger
@vitocorleone372415 күн бұрын
Toyota did the same thing before the current tundra was released. It was a “test mule”. Old cab on the new chassis with obscured front and rear quarter panels. It could also be just a refresh.
@chats595714 күн бұрын
Yes, look at the under-body 'protection' at 2:03 and you can see that they've attached the panel on with just 2 bolts, and it's sitting outside of the bumper. They're just added that to stop us seeing what's under the front. There is no way that toyota will keep the same platform.
@450tank15 күн бұрын
A Hilux and a Triton fell in love. Now we have the TRITOTA.
@MH-gq3xk15 күн бұрын
Still have a OG TRD v6 supercharged Hilux and I’m very disappointed that they haven’t had anything to replace it other then going to a ford raptor
@craigsampson338615 күн бұрын
Yeah i think if Toyota were ever going to do it then it would've been in their GR model Hilux, but sadly never happened.
@hanirahman1315 күн бұрын
Toyota decides to Keep the Old Design/Tech - you are disappointed that it has no changes Toyota brings New Changes , people cry Old was better 🥴
@NicholasRourke15 күн бұрын
Yeah, sweet new changes like a 48v system, adblue and a 10 grand price increase.
@MaCcAM40a36 күн бұрын
The old design and tech was already disappointing. TGNA platform seems good. 1GD is a shit box motor. 6 speed is also trash. It’s really not hard to see what the Australia market wants. Refined ride, 6 cylinder, better box, and solid tow capacity. Toyota isn’t going to do this though
@myretiredlife9615 күн бұрын
Love my Hilux but it is positively antiquated and years overdue for a full refresh.
@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars15 күн бұрын
In Mitsubishi's defence, Triton GSR is $20,000 cheaper than Ranger Wildtrak thanks in part to those drum brakes.
@alexjohnson369615 күн бұрын
But it’s fashionable to bash Tritons. Makes them feel like they’re part of the group
@edwardaw115 күн бұрын
Paul looks like you had a good xmas
@TheCitizn15 күн бұрын
😂😅 True
@dayforit175015 күн бұрын
Legit 🥵
@patrickflaherty325315 күн бұрын
😂🤣😂
@DrainCleaningAUSTRALIA15 күн бұрын
The 2.8 diesel again 😂
@trentg139615 күн бұрын
Bruce Bruce Bruce ! Fancy spotting you here mate 👍🏻
@xolanimtimkulu430913 күн бұрын
...if it ain't broke don't fix it
@survival_shorts24613 күн бұрын
@@xolanimtimkulu4309the 1GD engine is great to modify especially here in SEA, the platform is great
@slinca15 күн бұрын
Ty for explaining a platform. I’d always wondered but never knew who to ask.
@hsmedsvik15 күн бұрын
What a relief, this means I might as well just keep my 2014 Hilux
@TheAefril13 күн бұрын
I know what you mean, mine is a 2007 model turbo diese, ex mining hire car, 500kms and it is still bullet proof. I am disappointed with the model choices available today.
@glennpitman616112 күн бұрын
Same, my 2012 pre dpf is at 350,000kms and I have no plans to upgrade it.
@hsmedsvik11 күн бұрын
Encouraging to hear, my 2014 only has 165k on the clock, so it’s just been driven in 😉
@Mickey_vee14 күн бұрын
At least Toyota knows that if a platform is working there’s no need to change it completely just for wow factor, you don’t buy a Toyota to be ahead of the pack you buy it because you know it works and you don’t care what anyone else is doing/thinking. If it’s as good as the current generation of hilux then I’d be happy with it. Does the job which in the long run makes customers happier the longer they own it.
@CC-tk9xw14 күн бұрын
Do you even have a truck? Just because it works they dont need to update the flaws of a 10 year old truck? Do you even hear yourself?
@davewain36314 күн бұрын
Or....new platform Hilux was due 2025 but sales dropped (thanks Ford) so Toyota had a shit load of old platforms to move so do a few minor updates, move the old rolling stock and scam those waiting for the real new PraLux.
@Mickey_vee13 күн бұрын
@@CC-tk9xw yes I have I hilux. I’ve been happy with it because I know what to expect, it’s not full of features but it does the job well. I didn’t buy a 4x4 and expect it to perform like a race car or have the features of a Bentley. And yes I hear myself.
@denisrios232913 күн бұрын
Jajajajajajajajajajjajaajaja you're funny !!!!
@gregoryjones899015 күн бұрын
If that’s what Toyota think of their loyal customers then see ya later. Nobody likes to be taken for granted!
@josh3221ify15 күн бұрын
Atleast this model is 11 years old, which is still new for a toyota. They still selling a 50 year old car at a premium
@brownhairydog647215 күн бұрын
Not sure why they don't just use RHD version of the Tacoma. Seems like same truck
@dallasfrost199615 күн бұрын
Exactly, if Toyota streamlined their mid-size trucks globally it'd be much simpler for them.
@firecatinfernus353415 күн бұрын
@@dallasfrost1996Bit of a big problem there. They wouldn't fit on Asian roads and it would also mean you'd need a heavy vehicle license to operate a mid size pickup.
@Burnyzassoff13 күн бұрын
Would buy a Tacoma in a heart beat trd pro of course lol.
@a950312815 күн бұрын
So new bumper, grill and headlights. That’ll be $100k please
@MDman-vh5zz5 күн бұрын
Great 😊news!! I was rolling my eyes for $70,000 plus TNGA-F based Hilux …. I was going to trade in my ( Architect ) RAV4 for the new Hilux … Now once it’s confirmed 👍 I will sell my RAV4 and get old 2016 Hilux for $30,000 put the reminder of the money into my next developer project 😘
@aroundmeph11453 күн бұрын
Smart move since this is just the same 2016 hilux
@hielkeklooster24115 күн бұрын
If Toyota continues with this trend, it will eventually self-destruct, as competitors innovate and release far more appealing vehicles.
@matbailey815 күн бұрын
Hilux is still the number 1 light ute around the world.
@deeptobanerjee2415 күн бұрын
@@matbailey8it's quickly being replaced by ranger wherever the sell the ranger
@Kashchey115 күн бұрын
@@deeptobanerjee24 cope
@deeptobanerjee2415 күн бұрын
@@Kashchey1 cope with what? I don't have either. I have a Fortuner (1Gr-Fe); and an Everest 2.3 Ecoboost?
@whatwoulddarrendo132515 күн бұрын
It's already happening on a large scale. I definitely wouldn't buy a hilux newer than 2004.
@unknownd74099 күн бұрын
On the bright side, there are rumors that Toyota may include a 2.0 turbo option for the Hilux/Fortuner. I'm guessing it would be the recently introduced G20E engine, which would be very competitive against the 2.3 Ecoboost Ranger and Amarok.
@ajtransporttowing640915 күн бұрын
Ive owned my SR5 Hilux since new in 2011 and i love it!. Im going to hold on to it for as long as poss, as i don't trust any of the new vehicle's.
@tomdicker622214 күн бұрын
Me too! 310,000kms ,,,still going strong!One of the best looking of the hilux utes as well IMHO
@jackmartin236012 күн бұрын
I always thought the older ones that still had that big bonnet scoop looked way better!
@cnvdh351415 күн бұрын
All they had to do was rebadge the Tacoma as the Hilux
@dallasfrost199615 күн бұрын
& put Toyota's 3.3L V6 diesel into it.
@ankitbisht261715 күн бұрын
You absolutely right I was expecting the same .. this is a big let down. I own 2 hilux’s and was looking forward to 2025
@perpelle15 күн бұрын
Tacoma is a leisure vehicle with less payload and less towing.
@nassernathan15 күн бұрын
The Tacoma is not designed in Japan. It’s designed in America with American designers Japanese designers. Do not care how the car looks like so they will push out poorly designed vehicles.
@takudzwanasheiamtk288311 күн бұрын
That simple. At this pace we will not recover from the humiliation we got from the ranger
@sefisredtv899115 күн бұрын
Good. I wont be envious as much. Love my ranger xl. 🙂
@markhansford593015 күн бұрын
I don't have a problem with NVES - other countries have had it for years so hardly a surprise Australia is finally catching up. Car makers just need to lift their game.
@andyg999112 күн бұрын
Name one country that has an equivalent scheme to the NVES, I'll wait. There are none. NVES is nothing more than a government scheme to reduce "emissions" of CO2. It has ZERO other emissions that it aims to reduce. Nothing about NOx, nothing about particulate matter, nothing about anything other than CO2. It is nothing like Euro 6 when it comes to emissions. The government says that it gives the consumer more choice, except it doesn't. There are exactly ZERO hybrids currently available anywhere in the world that meet the ultimate goals of CO2 emissions. They only vehicles that meet the goals are BEV's. Nothing with an ICE comes even close which means they will all cost more in the long run. Sales of EV's have peaked and are declining. The public has spoken on what type of vehicles they prefer. The NVES is nothing more than a scheme by the government to force consumers into BEV's so the government can reach their stated CO2 reduction commitments
@netsiteing15 күн бұрын
I get Toyota’s „don’t fix if not broken” but they sure broke (or didn’t deliver) on Prado so let see which way Hilux goes
@ablokecalledbeer15 күн бұрын
What's wrong with the new Prado?
@lamborghini061015 күн бұрын
@@ablokecalledbeer The cargo area is a joke, not to mention the engine.
@sealoftheliving499815 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@lamborghini0610
@djjames657615 күн бұрын
@ablokecalledbeer Quite a bit it seems.
@tallboy4915 күн бұрын
@@ablokecalledbeer Everything seeing that it is just the previous model with a useless heavy battery to lug around and has less room in the back and it costs 10 grand more.
@mannyvalenti47515 күн бұрын
If it’s the same platform than what are they testing? Maybe a full hybrid diesel! I doubt it
@mathysdupreez60214 күн бұрын
If this isn’t s it, it’s a facelift, not the new Hilux. Unless it’s perhaps a test mule for what will go into new Hilux…
@aroundmeph11453 күн бұрын
Wow thats the same old hilux. I was expecting it to be TNGA platform same as the tacoma.
@RogerM8814 күн бұрын
The Hilux staying exactly the same is actually great news! Especially for people that rely on truck to actually work. Here in Europe the Ranger comes with a 2L engine with a wet belt, and the Isuzu with a 1.9L engine. Not a surprise this new Hilux dominates the pick-up market around here.
@MakhanSinghSydneyWala15 күн бұрын
The new Ranger Super Duty is going to kill the LC70 series and the Hilux as well. Long live the Ranger - Australian ingenuity and design at its best!
@Piecenotwar15 күн бұрын
Correct 👍
@cnvdh351415 күн бұрын
People will stay buy the Hilux. Brand loyalty outweighs the need for innovation.
@shaneclk985415 күн бұрын
And last how long?
@CM30389815 күн бұрын
The saddest bit about it is that if Ford had’ve transitioned to producing Ranger’s locally from 2012, they could have still been manufacturing vehicles here in Australia today. In May 2013 Ford announced that they would end local production. In 2012 Falcon sold 14,036 vehicles, and Territory sold 14,646 vehicles, totalling 28,682 vehicles. By April 2013 Falcon was on track to sell less than 10,000 units for the year, whilst Territory was up just 4.4%, putting it on track to sell over 1,000 more units than it ultimately ended up selling. Such a production trajectory left Ford looking at producing less than 25,000 units for a year. Looking back to 2008 - when Ford had its first full year of sales after launching the FG Falcon - and no one was talking about shutting down Ford manufacturing in Australia - we can watch how the sales changed between these key models. (“Falcon” is inclusive of Falcon sedans, wagons, Utes, and FPV models). 2008 * Falcon: 44,536 * Territory: 12,882 * Combined: 56,418 * Ranger: 15,421 * Combined: 71,839 2009 * Falcon: 43,203 * Territory: 10,884 * Combined: 54,087 * Ranger: 14,045 * Combined: 68,132 2010 * Falcon: 38,615 * Territory: 11,558 * Combined: 50,173 * Ranger: 14,709 * Combined: 64,882 2011 * Falcon: 25,555 * Territory: 13,886 * Combined: 39,441 * Ranger: 15,600 * Combined: 55,041 2012 * Falcon: 19,769 * Territory: 14,646 * Combined: 34,415 * Ranger: 18,192 * Combined: 52,607 May 2013 - Australian manufacturing to end announcement 2013 * Falcon: 15,289 * Territory: 14,261 * Combined: 29,550 * Ranger: 21,752 * Combined: 51,302 2014 * Falcon: 9,134 * Territory: 9,828 * Combined: 18,962 * Ranger: 26,619 * Combined: 45,581 2015 * Falcon: 8,592 * Territory: 8,902 * Combined: 17,494 * Ranger: 29,285 * Everest: 1,245 * Combined: 30,530 * Combined: 48,024 2016 * Falcon: 6,604 * Territory: 6,928 * Combined: 13,532 * Ranger: 36,934 * Everest: 3,614 * Combined: 40,548 * Combined: 54,080 2017 * Falcon: 282 * Territory: 1,764 * Combined: 2,046 * Ranger: 42,728 * Everest: 4,607 * Combined: 47,335 * Combined: 49,381 2018 * Ranger: 42,144 * Everest: 5,482 * Combined: 47,626 2019 * Ranger: 40,960 * Everest: 5,333 * Combined: 46,293 2020 * Ranger: 40,973 * Everest: 5,996 * Combined: 46,969 2021 * Ranger: 50,279 * Everest: 8,359 * Combined: 58,638 2022 * Ranger: 47,479 * Everest: 10,314 * Combined: 57,793 2023 * Ranger: 63,356 * Everest: 15,071 * Combined: 78,427 2024 * Ranger: 62,593 * Everest: 26,494 * Combined: 89,187 Given 2012 locally manufactured figures of 34,415 units (or the 2013 Q1 sales results), was enough to sign the death of Ford’s local manufacturing, had Ford started producing the PX1 Ranger locally in 2011, they would have salvaged the 39,441 unit production figure of 2011 up to 52,607 units by the end of 2012, and never seen local production fall below 45,000 units as the transition from Falcon and Territory to Ranger and Everest occurred. There may have even been enough fat for low volume performance models of the Falcon to remain in production going forward - even if it was only a couple thousand per year.
@patrickflaherty325315 күн бұрын
Cheaper to build them in Thailand on 3rd world wages…🙄
@thegourmetfoodi370215 күн бұрын
Current shape Hilux owner - have been patiently waiting to see some sort of insight into the future Hilux model to upgrade to; will probably go the 79 series route after seeing this.
@hsmedsvik11 күн бұрын
Was the new Hilux not outdated enough for you 😉
@aroundmeph11453 күн бұрын
Same. I was expecting a TNGA hilux but no, we got the same old stuff. Im disappointed tbh. Wow
@tirelolerumo289110 күн бұрын
Thank you for clarifying what a platform is.🙏🏾
@matthewmcdonald628315 күн бұрын
Is there a chance this is a minor update for other markets such as Thailand and south east Asia to continue the current model at a lower price point beneath a more extensive redesign that goes further upmarket?
@CooperClark9 күн бұрын
Wow, I live in Australia, and just went to Thailand and this comes up. I’m going searching for this.
@mathieudavies473115 күн бұрын
I will seriously be considering a switch to another brand for my work ute when updating in 2027 if this is what toyota think we want from a brand new platform. Essentially the same ute as my 2022 model...hopefully these first impressions are proven to be incorrect.
@johntheaccountant55949 күн бұрын
I think that it will come out on the TNGAF platform and not the IMV platform. That test vehicle is probably on the TNGAF platform but hidden with the steps hiding it. Looks like it has disc brakes all round.
@jameswilson471215 күн бұрын
Will keep playing second fiddle to the Ford Ranger the way they are going
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt15 күн бұрын
Top 10 selling cars for 2024 Ford Ranger - 62,593 Toyota RAV4 - 58,718 Toyota Hilux - 53,499 Top 10 selling brands for 2024 Toyota - 241,296 Ford - 100,170 Mazda - 95,987
@jameswilson471215 күн бұрын
@ you obviously missed the part where I said Ford Ranger
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt15 күн бұрын
@@jameswilson4712 No I saw that. Maybe in the big scheme of things Toyota are quite happy with their Hilux market share and are not using Ranger sales as their metric to success to the same quantification as you are? It would not at all surprise me that Hilux has a far greater profit margin than Ranger also. For the stupid money both cost one would have rocks in their noggen to get either one.
@jameswilson471215 күн бұрын
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt just saying, you can’t compare one vechile to all of Toyotas sales, a Rav 4 isn’t even comparable to these 2 utes
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt15 күн бұрын
@@jameswilson4712 Just saying, Where in my previously overly long winded comment did I mention Rav4?
@bazinga61515 күн бұрын
Looks like it’s going to be a Ute based on prado interior and same 48v diesel as standard. And the exterior looks like it will be a Camry exercise with a front and rear touch up.
@ronaldov0915 күн бұрын
New Hilux...ancient platform, same gutless 4cyl 2.8 Diesel, usual insipid interior all for a 7K price increase...Oh what a feeling!
@comabtreels655513 күн бұрын
Toyota really living under the logic " Don't fix what's not broken"
@jdees_garage13 күн бұрын
The 70 series and hilux’s are loved because they’re basic and uncomplicated if you want all the flash gadgets and do dabs and what nots, buy another brand. They’re more hassle than they’re worth most of the time. I’ll be sticking with Toyota though had multiple landcruisers now have a 105 series landcruiser, a hilux and a prado all of which are great cars. Chopping and changing platforms every few years to keep up with the Jones’s is a race to the bottom when the genuine buyers don’t care for it…
@carsandteck15 күн бұрын
If im not mistaken. When toyota was testing the current model tundra they were using the previous model cab foe testing so maybe its the same thing here and the final product may have a different cab. We'll wait and see
@Leftyintollerable14 күн бұрын
The government needs to get rid of their ridiculous emissions control legislation.
@Piecenotwar15 күн бұрын
Still based on the old hilux, changed the headlamps, crappy multimedia system from Noah’s Ark but now starts at $80k 😂.
@SoWereDoingWhatNow15 күн бұрын
So nothing has changed and watch it sell just as well as it always has.
@Piecenotwar15 күн бұрын
@ Oh I have no doubt you are correct about that.
@mikewilliams608610 күн бұрын
With all the tech available now its sad to see Toyota limited updates. Big thing not to change is 4wd capability! Fancy electronics dont replace locking differentials!
@zoranvuko15 күн бұрын
I disagree with your view on NVES. Many legacy brands have been increasing the price of their vehicles years before NVES was proposed. Also, many manufacturers have complied in the EU and the US, so all the manufacturers have to do is send more HEVs, PHEVs and BEVs that they already sell in the EU and US markets to Australia.
@nickclarke508915 күн бұрын
Also, I would have thought Toyota on average has a pretty good emission average per vehicle so unlikely to impact them. It will be RAM and the like that get stung the hardest as they only produce high emissions vehicles. And don't tell me that RAM owners are struggling....
@anthony-135715 күн бұрын
Nobody wants those cars though
@zoranvuko15 күн бұрын
@@nickclarke5089 That's what I was thinking
@markhansford593015 күн бұрын
Good points.
@zoranvuko15 күн бұрын
@@anthony-1357 Over the past 2 years, all three New Energy Powertrains: Hybrids, Plug-in Hybrids & Battery Electric vehicles have seen large growth in sales numbers. Meanwhile, Petrol & Diesel vehicles have seen a decline. I would say that many Australians do want these cars and NVES will give us even more options.
@WhatTheIfYouSeeKay14 күн бұрын
BE HAPPY! You don’t want them to ruin the HiLux like they did with the Tacoma, 4Runner and Tundra here in the USA!
@thearlongpark15 күн бұрын
NVES is brought for this specific reason: to prevent manufacturers from selling decades old vehicles with decades old engines. It should have been done 5 years ago or at least the original version, not the current watered down version. These dual cab utes with decades old diesel engines are destined for third world countries market. They are sold here because of no NVES, Australia's low emissions standard and because of australian high purchasing power so they can charge a premium price compared to third world countries.
@dn05915 күн бұрын
Yeah and cow farts are boiling the ocean 😅
@Kashchey115 күн бұрын
What's wrong with simple, reliable engines? Oh yes! The Chinese wouldn't be able to sell their crap designed to last 5 years ... .
@RDuove13 күн бұрын
hahaha every third world country would die to pay the prices you pay for your trucks. A good Prado is like 70k USD in Australia!! The cheapest you'll find a good spec new 250 Prado IN ANY third world country is 100k USD MINIMUM. A lot more in the mayority of cases. At least get your facts straight.
@thearlongpark12 күн бұрын
@RDuove I'm referring to diesel dual cab utes specifically. In the case of Prado, first they are miniscule sale numbers compared to dual cab utes and they do get a much better powerplant overseas: hybrid 4max with much more power and torque, not the underpowered ad blue diesel that requires 6 months servicing.
@andyg999112 күн бұрын
Besides CO2 emissions, what other emissions does the NVES scheme prevent/reduce? I will give you a hint, none. There is no mention of any other emissions other than CO2. NVES is nothing more than a government scheme to reduce the overall CO2 emissions of transport (the cost of which is to be born by the consumer) so the government can meet their stated CO2 reduction goals. If you ahem actually read the legislation (which I have), you would have understood this
@gpaje10 күн бұрын
So this is a facelift? The all-new Hilux is supposed to use the all-new TNGA-F as you mentioned.
@Iroboy15 күн бұрын
If it going to look like that then I am going to buy ranger
@patrickflaherty325315 күн бұрын
While your there check out the all-new BYD Shark Hybrid at $59,000 😉
@petermatthew15 күн бұрын
Obviously the Australian market is the Hilux biggest buyer and therefore does not warrant big development costs
@SydneyEV15 күн бұрын
wow, looks like every other Hilux from the last 20 years.
@RJ-vc2ju9 күн бұрын
Count yourself lucky that you're not getting the light duty frame / architecture that's revolutionizing (for the absolute worse) the Tacoma here in NA. Keep the much tougher Hilux architecture for as long as possible.
@stever66915 күн бұрын
Anyone else think the front side on pic looks like the front of the previous generation Triton?
@xxiv-xviii-xvi10 күн бұрын
At this point, i may as well just upgrade to the latest line up and do an engine swap and throw a V8 in it! Still counts as a everyday ute 😂
@AeroDr15 күн бұрын
Toyota will absolutely jack the prices up, because the Australian market is simply too loyal.
@SoWereDoingWhatNow15 күн бұрын
Or dopey. I live in the bush and I'm going with dopey.
@smiddysmidton831314 күн бұрын
Dopey is the word in the bush that is for sure but there is also the issue of the lazy local mechanics not wanting a bar of servicing or repairing anything but Toyotas. This "network' ensures constant Toyota loyalty ,this was my experience living even 4 hrs out of Sydney.
@MultiAsh6915 күн бұрын
Seen your raptor on carsales Paul, what you buying instead?
@pavansai906615 күн бұрын
In UAE hilux have 4.0l v6 engine. I think they have space to keep v6 diesel
@HhhFff777-q4c14 күн бұрын
They did not even bother to retain that nice 4,0ltr V6 Petrol in the Prado... No chance they will put it in the Hilux Will be under-powered as the new Prado, with only very old 4-cylinder engines 🤮
@furinaメpininfarina13 күн бұрын
2:19 กรุงเทพมหานคร plate?
@chwayitilemadaza782015 күн бұрын
Toyota does not listen to its customers....no one complained about lights, fenders and bumpers. Focus on chassis and ride quality not fenders as the markets you produce hilux for have undeveloped road infrastructure
@rustynailgaming409415 күн бұрын
Why not switch to the TNGA platform?
@Iroboy15 күн бұрын
Toyota has been going down hill since they start putting inline four in every model
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt15 күн бұрын
The Hilux has always had an I4 dude.
@14bqdonk12 күн бұрын
i hope there is MSRP price decrease. Because it just a facelift.
@henvan873715 күн бұрын
Toyota continues with the same old same old, just change a few cosmetic differences. I bet the price will go up considerably.
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt15 күн бұрын
And they're alone in that?
@Raturidesagain15 күн бұрын
Leaf spring suspension: invented in medieval times (look it up) and patented in 1802. Sounds exciting. 🤨
@xxiv-xviii-xvi10 күн бұрын
waited 8 years for a potential v6 powerplant but only to find out it's carrying over the existing platform on current models. Absolute fucking joke!
@MaCcAM40a36 күн бұрын
We were never going to see the V6 in a hilux, can’t take sales away from the more bespoke range
@Deatomizer15 күн бұрын
So over the Hilux unless Toyota drops the price about 20k because it is not worth the money they are asking.
@johntheaccountant55949 күн бұрын
If I discover that they are keeping the new 9th generation on the IMV platform and not putting it on the new TNGAF, then I shall buy the 8th generation when they sell them off cheaper.
@amode876115 күн бұрын
I do recall reading something about 2 Hiluxs, one for the developing world that retains the same platform etc to keep cost and price down and one for the developed world based on the new platform with new engines etc and likely $10k price increase. Hope that’s the case
@dallasfrost199615 күн бұрын
That's exactly what I'm hoping for, keep the current generation Hilux around for markets that still want it for the lower costs, but also introduce an all-new generation Hilux based on the TNGA-F platform for the remaining markets. Eventually when the prices come down enough on the new generation Hilux, Toyota could in the future replace the previous gen Hilux's with them.
@M_Bash_12 күн бұрын
Recent hilux is the last *best looking* 😢
@richardcharlton825915 күн бұрын
Toyota have lost the plot they just don’t care
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt15 күн бұрын
Or they simply know their market. Aussies ain't that classy mate. They don't care.
@Piecenotwar15 күн бұрын
They know their target audience well, idiots who will blindly buy it anyway just because it’s a Toyota and will be willing to pay a premium for it, even if it’s a out of date uncomfortable pile of shit.
@MarvinxJavier12 күн бұрын
I don't know why car companies apply designs that are not timeless.
@h3g98fn15 күн бұрын
So basically a more expensive and older triton
@pistondo13 күн бұрын
In Jamaica which was a Hilux country the Ford ranger have been dominating since the last 2 years. The Wildtrack can be seen everywhere in Jamaica now. People are becoming tired of the hilux outdated design. Ford Ranger is the new pickup king in Jamaica.
@tim924115 күн бұрын
Quit fear mongering the NVES from Australia Paul - if legacy auto passes on costs to consumers they will just buy Chinese EVs and hybrids, which are already leading that sector anyway. Clearly a storm in a teacup mate - legacy auto deserves to take the hit on sales for sitting on their haunches and refusing to innovate since the Prius/Leaf launched decades ago. Rest of World already has similar standards (or even more stringent) to NVES so Aus had become a dumping ground for old tech. That you can whinge about the 2004 Hilux platform and also complain about NVES is peak irony.
@anthony-135715 күн бұрын
Australian land mass if very different to the rest of the world though mate.
@PKPatty11115 күн бұрын
@@anthony-1357 Just keep your current car then, they aren't taking yours off the road. You can still buy a Hilux too, Toyota will likely just pass any price onto the consumer, IF and that's a big IF, they aren't in an emissions credit from all the hybrids they sell. It really is poor for Paul to share this view. The NVES was advocated for by Toyota. They asked and helped with consultation to form NVES into what it is. Google CarExpert Toyota NVES and their own website will tell you this.
@Kashchey115 күн бұрын
What's wrong with the old reliable tech? Oh yes! The Chinese wouldn't be able to sell their designed to last 5 years crap.
@markhansford593015 күн бұрын
Well said Tim.
@andyg999112 күн бұрын
Show me ONE scheme anywhere in the world that is similar to NVES. Let me give you a hint, there are none. Not only that, but there isn't a single hybrid anywhere in the world that is currently available that would not be liable to pay the proposed $100g/km penalty for CO2 emissions over the stated limits. People need to realise that NVES is not a scheme to reduce emissions other than CO2. It says nothing about emissions of NOx, particulate matter or anything else. its only about CO2
@edletsebela979611 күн бұрын
Thats it, back to Ranger
@grjh5815 күн бұрын
Basically a major face lift, not a new version
@dallasfrost199614 күн бұрын
@@grjh58 Yup, pretty much a major refresh/face-lift. This time around the face-lift looks to include reshaped front fenders, hood, & headlights as well. The rear cargo tray/tub looks like it'll be re-skinned to match the newer front end design.
@beresheeth14 күн бұрын
No problem with rear drums on ute... help with gcm
@MBC1988.15 күн бұрын
Unfortunately hilux fan boys won't find anything wrong with this ancient looking vehicle 😂
@George-we7vy9 күн бұрын
I'm afraid that they'll spoil the Hilux with an all new design. So I don't mind this refresh design. I DO NOT want toyota to make a boxy Hilux like they did with the Tacoma, Tundra and Prado.
@PaulOwen-s2d15 күн бұрын
Why change a good thing it's a work horse not a show pony
@colincameron52195 күн бұрын
So glad I just got my new 70 series V8 dble cab 2025
@Adrock-z3y15 күн бұрын
Well, essentially it suppose to be a workman’s truck, not a sexy sports Ute. Vast majority of buyers are tradies
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt15 күн бұрын
But the ladies like the Ranger.
@AzzaBro5915 күн бұрын
I wanted a hi luxury model that puts the luxury back into its original name.
@rsoul728215 күн бұрын
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHuntsure, ladies will want a Ranger. Men will want a vehicle that actually works.
@darianpolzin630411 күн бұрын
I bet it still has a shiny little engine how about putting some power in there. Ranger any day
@Lxone-1215 күн бұрын
The Toyota fan club will still buy 😂😂😂
@sebastientumahai956012 күн бұрын
Won’t this be the 3rd facelift since 2015? Current model style
@twinrotors15 күн бұрын
I’m an old grey beard, too stubborn to be open to other products and optimistic that reliability is still a thing for Toyota.
@120downunder15 күн бұрын
Yeah also now being built in Thailand 👍
@dn05915 күн бұрын
Toyota is not the reliable brand U remember it being
@twinrotors15 күн бұрын
@@dn059 I know, but I am too worried to try anything else… I guess I just keep handing over money
@120downunder14 күн бұрын
@ yeah with the same platform,
@mortaljorgeguy12 күн бұрын
The current Tacoma has a hybrid so Hilux should have one
@InnoJ-u8j15 күн бұрын
Nothing new here,thought they would do something about length and cabin size.Just a buzz for nothing really sad
@JulesSch114 күн бұрын
It’s the same old truck, this is the exact reason I got sick of waiting for an all new Hilux, I ordered a BYD Shark a few weeks back and looking forward to some modern technology and an all new truck.