New Beginner Camera vs Old Pro Camera (M50 Mark ii vs 5D Mark ii)

[@levon_dirt]

couldn‘t decide so i bought an old beginner camera

[@ikhwannaufal2929]

😂😂😂

[@kotonbads]

lol

[@Mahmoud605]

i think in this case the cellphone camera would be better 😅😅

[@kieran2790]

high five from me and my canon 1000d, 2009 beginner dslr

[@levon_dirt]

My Camera is a Nikon d3100 from 2010

[@nenmeet]

In photography, limitation of a camera is the best teacher.

[@ThePHtube]

++

[@BikeEatRepeat]

In videography, the limitation of the camera is....

[@SPECTRA890]

@@BikeEatRepeat a nightmare without gadgets

[@Moh9518]

@@BikeEatRepeat ...limitation of the camera. Nothing else.

[@mmadmic]

Indeed, video and other stuffs are fun but useless when the goal is learning how to be a better photographer.

[@117-z1j]

I’m gonna buy a 5D mark ii today and I can’t wait!!!! Ive dreamed this day for over 5 years

[@ZamudioAbel]

I just bought one today, i'm so happy.

[@keima1110]

I had 5DII and M50. I think M50 is much better camera.

[@verficationaccount]

I bought one for 250 Euros a few weeks ago (only 22k shutter count) and I felt exactly the same. It´s just so magic to have this right now.

[@dimka11ggg]

@@verficationaccount 22k is good?

[@invisiblespark]

I have bought this camera about 1 month ago and the pictures that it takes are a lot better than my Canon 1200D. Mostly because it has color balance fine tuned for portraits whereas the 1200d was more of a nature camera. Low light performance is also a key factor if you want to avoid flash use

[@georgiewanders]

My 5d II passed 1 million clicks more than a year ago. I'm still shooting almost daily with it as it is still my second camera. Anyone from Canon listening? I can see my camera breaking a Guinness record sometime in the future :)

[@totsamiykotoriy]

My 5d III passed 1 900 000 when i sold it. WIth no shutter problems.

[@batsonelectronics]

I know of a least 2 Nikon D3's that have over 1 million clicks so keep shooting.( on original shutters )

[@Visual_Ghoul]

Mine is at 3 million

[@xeicv]

4.2 million this past week.

[@FireLiteCreations]

Shot my first wedding with a 5d mk ii last month and for what I could capture, the photos came out beautiful! 📸

[@Wawrzino]

Few years ago I bought EOS 200D as my first "professional camera". I'm fully aware of crop-sensors limits, but hey, I'm not gonna show my photos in art gallery, so for me it was perfect choice.

[@Wawrzino]

@@nerdlearners 100% agree

[@sulev111]

The images you take matter, not what you used to take them.

[@oOhydroOo]

@@sulev111 not always true tho. I agree with that but not always. In order to make a high quality image you need a better sensor

[@viridiantellus5665]

Me here still using a Canon 60d. Definitely gonna upgrade to a a7iii in a couple of weeks.

[@ravinchandra]

I still use the Nikon D3200 & the D7200, happy with those in relation to my use case scenario.

[@PNWDOM]

Great video! The 5D Mark II was my first full frame camera. Brought back a ton of memories. Very surprised to see it hold it's own relatively well in the stills category. Also makes you appreciate the advancements made since 2008!

[@sapientum8]

I have the original 5D, still works very well.

[@ignacymat]

5D2 was my first FF as well, i had 1DII before it and regret everytime i haven't gone with 1DsIII. Later i've bought two of them and it's quite amazing as they outlived my 5D2, 6D, 5D3, A7, 5D4 and they are still going.

[@1703702]

@@ignacymat so you'd recommend 1dsIII over 5dII?

[@kj_H65f]

I still use mine! Its been a freaking workhorse, handling family portraits, camping trips, and everyday snapshots for 10 years (I bought it used). Its handled all the abuse I've thrown at it and while the autofocus and tracking tech is pretty ancient at this point, it's still an amazing camera.

[@Photoshopuzr]

the 5D Mark ii is the godfather of canon as far as im concerned, when you have no options but to use the tool to its fullest potential, you discover skills you never had before, my secret with the 5D Mark ii was to always use 1.2 primes to never worry about darkness ever again but then again who can afford to be buying every 1.2 lens. but at the time and still today with the new lenses that is more than enough, my 50 1.2 always at 800 killed off noise at night, and since im a night shooter this camera has made me king of the darkness. give me any camera of today and ill destroy the night, yet I still hear grumbles about today's cameras not good at night. it shows how people got no skills and only depend on the camera to do all the work. I still use this camera as my daily driver and im very satisfied with it. I recently touched a r62 and man if there's still talk about a camera doing being good enough id say people are so spoiled by technology to the point of no return. Cameras of today are not cameras anymore they are all a.i, I remember back when Natgeo was going strong there was a saying cameras don't take pictures, people do, today its not people taking the pictures anymore it's a.i. 😂😂😂😂

[@rolysosa7777]

I bought a 5d iii and it is awesome! Never going back to cropped sensor.

[@badgerb4875]

yo... i'm about to buy my first camera but didnt decide yet. my question is... why ? is it photography focused purpose or something?

[@theprotechreview7723]

Cropped sensors are more than capable for many types of photography, but for low-light, wide-angle, extreme detail work, and achieving shallow depth of field, full-frame sensors generally have the advantage.​@badgerb4875

[@HR-wd6cw]

This is actually an interesting dilemma that I'm sure a lot of new photographers face. My suggestion... buy the best mid-range camera you can afford... Many of the beginner cameras lack a few features that you may want to use later on, and by buying the best mid-range camera you can afford, then you have these options, but maybe not all the features (some of which you may not care about) found in the high-end cameras, like dual card slots, or faster burst shooting, but you will likely get some features like exposure bracketing (which at least for Nikons, for example, is not a feature found in the basic D3000 cameras, but is offered in the D5000 bodies and later). It's found in the Z50, which is good that Nikon included that in their only/entry level APS-C ML body. But just something to consider. You don't even need to get the used high-end camera either if you're starting out. Just something to "grow into" for a few years, and then upgrade, once you're sure you want to stick with photography. And in most cases, the price between an entry level (APS-C) camera and the mid-range (APS-C camera) for example, is not very much money (using NIkon again as an example, a D3500 is about $400. A D5600 is about $600. Then before you make your next jump, I would buy a decent used high-end camera to start out with and work with that for a few years, and THEN maybe go with a new high-end camera if you feel like it. But start out small(er) and go with something "in the middle" of entry level, don't buy a camera solely based on price because I think you'll find you'll want/need to upgrade within 1-2 years so you might want to just spend the extra $100-200 up front. Pro-cameras also tend to have fewer options in terms of entry level features. Some people like to use "Auto" mode to get a handle on learning exposure, but some high-end cameras don't even had an auto mode (such as the NIkon D800). But the D750 or D600-series has an auto mode, plus scene modes, which you could use to learn. I'm sure Canon has something similar, where the EOS M has the auto modes a beginner may want to use for a bit, but the high-end DSLRs and ML ones may not, which may be intimidating to beginners since they likely have not mastered the exposure triangle yet).

[@rustysickle2528]

I was looking at the M50 when I was looking at my first camera 3 years ago and ended up with the mid-range Fuji xt30. It's the swiss penknife of cameras. It's still 100% relevant today I use it alongside a higher end XT4 i acquired and being so compact and light, a 55-200mm permanently lives on it.

[@matlynwood6225]

I'm on my second 5D Mark II and just love them. My best tip if you buy the 5D2 make sure you know how to clean your sensor well on your own. I find keeping your sensor clean every 2 months will help and don't forget it is still a pro camera we old guys still use today and it's a beast in any weather.

[@warrenrae32]

That’s a great tip Thankyou 👍🙂

[@-AndySenpai-]

CONCLUSION FOR NEW PHOTOGRAPHERS: Older cameras doesn't mean they're inferior. Same for lenses. Investigate your stuff and get the right gear for your needs.

[@photoguy4212]

Bought the 5D mkii a few months ago. It’s a great camera for sure. Paired with the 24/105 and it’s legendary. Images are amazingly sharp and have their own quality that I haven’t found in any other cameras and I’ve owned quite a bit

[@dsfsdfsdfsdf43]

24-105 ver1?

[@brantisonfire]

I’m looking to move on from APS-C in my T6i and get a 5D MKII. I’ve had the T6i for 5 years, and before that I started with a Nikon D70 in 2012. I rarely shoot video on the Rebel, but it is nice having movie servo mode. I’ve never worked with manual focus for video very much, so I’m not sure how I’d handle shooting video on the 5D. I shoot more still photography than video, so maybe the lack of AF wont really matter.

[@rajjoshi259]

I have the 5D MKII bought new when the MKIII was released. I get great results paired with the 24-105mm 1:4 L IS USM that I use for most of my shooting for travel. I also have the 17-40mm L lens which is also very sharp and gives me great results. I have been considering the newer Canon mirrorless camera to have a less bulky body for travel. Not sure if I will now take the plunge after seeing this video. It still works so no need to replace it!!

[@thesoapster]

I like these sorts of comparisons, and I think they're worth redoing every so often. Before the camera reveal, I figured the 5D was on the left because of the skin tones. They're much more natural. It almost looks like the photos were taken in different light!

[@kkyyee]

yeah, the color is definitely much better in the 5D

[@noclud5137]

I bought my 5D mark II yesterday.. it's the best camera I have ever used.

[@rdog77]

This is a great video/topic and enjoyed Hyuns perspective and insight. I had both of these cameras and loved shooting with them. I'm not so much into video and preferred a mirrorless solution. If I had to pick I would choose the 5DMKii hands down.

[@cyrfung]

Really didn't expect the 5D highlights and noise to hold so well after all these years.

[@UNSCPILOT]

That bigger sensor might be flexing here too, more surface area per pixel might help squash noise, the smaller the pixels get the more they suffer from there own heat noise

[@bigboldbicycle]

I did. They are amazing machines.

[@nikkiwakatani]

Loved the 5DMII. When I bought it, it was a big deal for me. Took great pictures. Great video. Thank you.

[@stvdicorsa]

The 5D Mark II is such a pleasure to use. Quite often less (functions) is more but I don’t shoot a lot of videos so I’m probably biased.

[@MatiasBertuzziPH]

The 5D Mark II is built like a tank. I regret so much selling it.

[@HyunRalphJeong]

What do you shoot with now?

[@noctilux5134]

sold mine for a Sony A7, kept the full frame factor and lost 400 grammes. The 5D was kinda big/heavy :P No regrets going mirrorless

[@noctilux5134]

0 expense by the way

[@MatiasBertuzziPH]

I sold it to buy a Nikon D610 for the dynamic range but now I have a Sony a7ii. They are both great cameras but as soon as I get a few extra bucks I'll buy another 5d mark ii with a 24-105 or maybe a 6D

[@dimka11ggg]

No 1D seems like a lot of bigger

[@symph1744]

Ive been using the 5D mark II for years now, still couldn't find reason to replace it, even after looking at the Mark III and the Mark IV, the Mark II has something going on in the imagery that's just captivating.

[@ISo404]

the 5D is stupidly good and I say that as a Nikon shooter... though I have moved over to mostly shooting film these days ... :)

[@96bikerider96]

I just got a R6 to "replace" my 5D mk ii, but it's being hard to completely break up with it.

[@Czarina888777]

@@96bikerider96 I too have the 5DMII, and am debating what to purchase, would you still recommend the r6?

[@bennyhaslonghair]

@@96bikerider96 how have you got on with this? I have had my 5dmkii for 10 years or so, and thinking of upgrading to the R6 too.

[@dog4mike]

This won't work for everyone, but this is what I did: I used to be a commercial photographer, so always had to keep up with the best cameras and lenses, to ensure I could meet client expectations and produce technically perfect images. But then covid hit, my business all but died, and I figured I'd move on to other things. I decided to focus solely on photography as fine art, done to my tastes, not to the brief of a client. In that game, the camera/lenses/processing etc all become part of the art, part of your signature. So rather than chase technical perfection, I got to know the advantages/limitations of the gear I had, and I just made that part of the art. Now I use a camera with lower resolution, cheaper lenses that are slightly imperfect, and I process things based on the story I want to tell. I was able to offload a ton of heavy and expensive gear and just forget about all that tech. Like I said, if you're a commercial photographer, you have to keep with the gadgets, but for me, letting go of all that was the most liberating thing I've done in years. Now I can just create, don't care about pixels or dynamic range or number of AF points. If you're just getting into photography, don't waste time and money on the latest and greatest. Just get something you can learn on until you know what you want to get from your images.

[@heathenshaunt681]

I look at photography like art I may learn the "rules" but I'm going to do it my way artistically anyone can do static expected boring it's when you get outside the box things get cool and unique.

[@vividstudio4651]

I bought an R6 to replace the 5D II and ended up selling the R6. The 5D II is a great balance of megapixels, build, usability and results. You want to feel like a pro, look like a pro and get the results of a pro - the 5D II will make your dreams happen. Slide an 85mm F1.4 on it and be stunned by the portraits you get. I suspect this video didn’t quite convey the difference in bokeh when going wide open. Also the 5D II comes from an era when Canon’s menus were not collapsing from having to do hundreds more video and auto focus things. The menus are simple, robust and easy to remember. Like the camera controls. And the 9 autofocus points simply mean an adjustment to composing while shooting. They are super sharp focusing tools that require a shooting style. And then there is Magic Lantern and focus peaking. The 5D II is still a beast.

[@Racing_Fox]

I almost bought an R6 to replace my 1DX, I’m glad I didn’t

[@lb7144]

Picked up a 5D MKIII two weeks ago from an eBay Camera shop with a warranty. I already had a Canon 90D but I’ve really wanted a full frame camera. I have not been disappointed by the 5DIII. It is also making me a better shooter. What I’m learning on the 5DIII is helping me with the 90D. Back button focus is all I know now. The 5DIII is a photo beasts especially in low light. Add fast glass with the 5DII or 5DIII and you can get some awesome pictures in low light. Awesome video!!!

[@camerone397]

The 5D2's colors are awesome. Might be in the minority but I definitely noticed it in the portrait example's shirt and hair right off the bat. I have a 6D right now that I absolutely adore but I'm definitely looking at perhaps grabbing a more weather sealed body even though I don't need any more features, and the 5D2/5D3 are fantastic candidates. Old FF DSLRs are the *best* deals out there

[@getsideways7257]

It's actually the shirt that made me doubting, since I almost started to think the image was already converted. But the rest of the picture and especially the background convinced me that the 5D was on the left.

[@getsideways7257]

Oh, and forgot to add that the image on the right didn't catch my attention at all.

[@MrRensan404]

Good review and comparison! I still love my 5D3 and my 10 year old 50D. They both still give me excellent results. I’ve been investing instead more on the wide variety of EF and EF-S lenses available in the pre-owned market which now become reasonably priced because of the introduction of mirrorless cameras and lenses.

[@cayden7725]

Definitely. My 5D3 is great, lenses are really more important imo.

[@max_coast]

if you drop in Magic Lantern you've got 3.5K 10-bit RAW video in the 5D3 which is damn lovely

[@TheCanadianBubba]

Could easily see the difference... the 5D MARKII has much better colour ! Great days to you Hyun !

[@tomkirkemo5241]

I don't do any video work at all. I used to work as a portrait photograhper some years back...with a 5D MK2, LOVED it! I now have only old cameras, an EOS M, a 70D and a 6D. But I just bougth a 5D MK2 for 180 USD!! I just had to! :) 180 dollars for that camera is amazing.

[@shaun1040]

I would say another massive advantage of the m50 is that for new/beginners, it’s much easier to learn the basics on a mirrorless camera. What you see is generally what you get. It not quite like that for dslr’s. What you get with a dslr can be completely different from what you see. I’ve found that most of my friends that start shooting with mirorrless have enjoyed photography more. My buddies that start with DSLR’s got frustrated more quickly and didn’t enjoy photography as much

[@nomadben]

It's not about the gear, it's about how you use it. Great video.

[@XxXStoneFingerXxX]

awesome video! i bought a used Nikon D600 with a D610 sensor for 400EUR (roughly 450$) as my first camera because of the full-frame and dynamic range. 50mm f1.8, 28-70mm f3.5-4.0 and i think i'm set until the day i die.

[@Misterrocha]

Great video! M50 Mk I was one of the best purchases for me back in 2019 when I started making videos. Such a powerfull little camera!

[@Morgan_In_Motion]

I was seriously considering an M50(MK2) for a while, but the moment I went to a camera shop and held one I didn't want it. It's a little too compact for me. Cool camera, just super small. I ended up getting an old 6D for a song and don't regret it. Huge ISO range, slightly faster shutter flap count than the 5d, great battery life and wifi which I use all the time for remote shooting.

[@anamorphicalan]

Damn I bought used 5d. Used for two weeks and love it. Especially with vintage lenses.

[@mmadmic]

Try it with Zuiko 50 f/1.4 or Tomioka 55 f/1.4, the images are amazing. Another great lens is the Super Takumar 55 f/1.8, with the beautiful Pentax color rendering.

[@thehumanityoflife6460]

@@mmadmic Would you need an adapter for those other brand of lenses to use on a Canon 5D Mark2?

[@mmadmic]

@@thehumanityoflife6460 Yes, OM-EF, M42-EF. Be careful with PK lenses, some are too long and stuck the mirror.

[@ZombieRofl]

5D's and 6D's are well known of their excellent performance when it comes down to skintones (ow yeah that lovely Canon color science quotes)

[@ISo404]

Canon for colour science, Nikon for the glass.... stupid generalisation but a fun one ;)

[@mbr5742]

"Color Science" - is a myth. People take large doeses of "WannaBelieve" when hearing "made by a 5D2" and that causes them to see those pretty colors.

[@ZombieRofl]

@@mbr5742 well I can say that there is a difference between my 5d classic and Eos R.

[@ISo404]

@@mbr5742 Different sensors and processors that they are linked to produce different results... including colours... I use the term colour science to refer to how different cameras behave, whether that is intentional or not... once a manufacturer has an image processor and iterate on it it usually results in similar characteristics... and that is often intended as they do not want their customers to feel like it is a shift away from what they are expecting.... check out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6S5eKGfqN6Sp7s

[@hohhan1978]

But what about 5D Mark II With Magic Lantern? :) I know that its heavily manual use keys, but quality wise its crushing M 50s 4k.

[@carlosgringo8969]

That's what I use, love it

[@siebenburguer]

I still using professionally a 5D Mark II since 10 years ago, and for street photography I use a Rebel XTi since 11 years ago.

[@waimeaguyz9074]

I bought used a Canon 5d mark 3 for $300 and in great shape. I wanted a full frame camera to take landscapes, sunsets anything. The 5d mark 3 is big and heavy. Fine. I also have a new nikon d500. It's great too. Awesome review. Keep up the excellent work.

[@lbcitylacounty4982]

CANON 5DII is a classic King! 💪 I have 2 and keeping them! 😍

[@HocusFocusProductions]

Ya, I've used my 5D on countless movies and photoshoots. I keep thinking it's time for an upgrade, but it keeps getting the job done. It's sort of like my old Jeep. Always there when I need it. I can't see stepping down to a cropped sensor for more tech.

[@DakotahMiskus]

As someone who’s main camera is a 5D mk 2 it was easy for me to tell the difference. The m50 looks super close but it doesn’t have the signature 5D color

[@LooseEnds]

I have an m50 and a Canon 5D classic (Mark 1). If the 5D ever dies, I will probably replace it with the original 6D, which is a super performer in image quality (I had one for a while, but didn't need the 5D and 6D both, and the 5D sparked more joy!). I like using the m50 as a family video camera, and the images are perfectly good, too.

[@DeathDasein]

I had the 5D Mark I, 5D Mark II and now I have the 6D. 5D 1 has the better image quality, 5D 2 has better resolution and you can boost the ISO up to 6400, 6D has worse ergonomics but it's lighter and you can boost the ISO up to 12800. Also being able to transfer files via wi-fi is a plus for me. 5D 1 has a green tint, 5D 2 has a magenta tint.

[@zodgzod]

I've had my 5D Mk II since it came out. Can't justify changing it. It's great.

[@guyphoto9437]

You did a great job explaining both of these cameras. I've been a pro photographer for a lot of years and I bought the 5D MKII not long after it's introduction into the market. I've used it a lot over the years and I still do. I use it with the battery grip (in fact every Canon I own has a battery grip except my M-50). I actually prefer a heavier camera for handheld shots over a lighter unit. I also have the EOS M50, which I use as a camera to take with me when I'm running errands, or just want to do some casual photography. However, I shot a model with the M-50 and had to use a relatively high ISO and I was surprised at how well the image held together. It was definitely a pro level image. The Canon 5D MKII is a great camera, rugged, durable and built with pro level shooters in mind. I've done a ton of photo shoots, studio and environmental with it and the results are great as is the color rendition. But I've always thought Canon led the field in color rendition, pretty much regardless of which camera model you have. Even though it's long in the tooth I would recommend any photographer, who can find a used 5DMKII in good condition to grab it because it's a workhorse and it will match your creative goals. I also think the M-50 is a great camera, especially for it's price range, particularly for street shooters and the lens selection for the M series is expanding quite a bit. You won't go wrong with either camera, it's simply full frame vs a mirrorless crop sensor--both have their pro and cons.

[@MP_Soundbox]

Thanks for this! The modern focusing tech is so attractive! I've been out of the photography game for years. Deciding what to use now is quite overwhelming.

[@TazawaTanks]

If I had to choose between these two, I would pick the 5D Mkii if I were a photographer or just taking stills, and I would choose the M50 if I were using it mostly for video. The biggest difference I would say is native glass. So many great EF options for the 5D. Yes, I KNOW that you can get the EF-EFM adapter (or a speed booster), but it’s not the same as the native mount full frame. For reference, I owned an M50 for two years (I now have two EOS Rs), so I’m very familiar with the M50 platform. Great video!

[@shymaaelbanna]

Could you tell me if I'll record such reviews and recipes what's better if the 2 models available? Thank you

[@eightmilesupwind9030]

Very thoughtful review. Thanks. To me, the key thing is that the 5D2 is a GREAT tool for people to get into photography - not necessarily as a professional, but as an amateur who knows what (s)he is doing.

[@ttblade]

As someone who started out many many years ago with 35mm film, full frame seems so natural to the eye and nothing gives such beautiful skin tones as my 5D iii. For me it is the closest quality to film you can get with a digital camera.

[@MrPatifon]

Try ancient Canon 1ds/1dsII or Sigma SD quattro H, you will be blown away how digital'ish 5d iii is going to look to you in comparison.

[@TheMainCore]

Haha, I have used the 5DMKII for twelve years, the blind test was easy! Love the colors, but made the switch to Sony A7R. Great camera, but the 5D is still a legend.

[@AnandaGarden]

Wonderful overview, thank you. I sold my Canon full-frame gear and used the money to buy an iPhone 12 Pro Max. (Yeah, one of those guys.) At age 79 I'm loving having a pro-level audio-video-photo beast in my pocket.

[@altimatic2183]

Those iphones are surprisingly good

[@rmrm3602]

In what universe iPhone (a PHONE) is "pro level photo beast"? xD

[@marcp.1752]

@@rmrm3602 Into his parallel universe.

[@PhotoRubio]

Pre-ordered a 5D MK II when it came out. Have traveled many places with it and it is still going strong! Love that camera.

[@checkmichlinus7889]

You're right, Full HD was revolutionary, but no Hollywood movies were shot with this camera. Hollywood movies are always shot (from the 90s or so on) in minimum 2k, which the 5D II is not capable of.

[@S2SHK2]

but what about the episodes in the films Avatar, doctor house, iron man 2?

[@S2SHK2]

Many episodes in this movies was shot on 5d mark ll

[@scheierman]

I was in this exact position and bought the 5DII and have not bought another camera. I picked up the R5 the other day as a rental and was able to shoot on it with almost no prep time. I would always recommend learning a high-end workflow.

[@AlsoKnownAsTori]

I thoroughly enjoyed this video so thank you! The m50 was my first camera I've had for about 8 months but now that I'm getting more interested in portrait photography I've been wanting to try an entry level full frame and not wanting to spend a ton of money. The 5DMK2 has been in my cart for about 10 days and I was concerned spending $300 on a 12 year old camera but this video has influenced my decision. And I personally enjoy the colors and softness on the 5DMK2 images versus the M50!

[@Sommerlath2006]

I bought a second hand Mk2 4 years ago for something around £800 and it was totally worth it.

[@artemgrauberger8775]

No ads from sponsors - instant like. Good video!

[@Hikikomori34]

Nice one, i was looking for something new, thinking that newer gear is gonna be so much better for quality photos, but honestly, if you not shooting sports or video, it is totally fine using 10 years old camera. Not to mention, all new mirrorless lenses are so expensive...

[@meibing4912]

5DII was a spectacular camera. Make your own color profile and it improves noticeably both in highlight and shadow recovery.

[@sapientum8]

I immediately preferred the 5D2 images on the left, without even knowing which body it came from. Intuitively, they are somehow more pleasing to the eye.

[@dudinacas]

Same with me, I think it's the dynamic range.

[@LunkerFishing]

Great timing on finding this video. I have owned the M50 for almost a year now. Last week I bought a used 5D Mark II to experience a full frame camera. What a learning curve on the 5D but having been using the M50 gave me a basic understanding of what the 5D should be able to do. Great video, thanks!

[@phucmapvlog]

Good comparison

[@KhangNguyenMacCo]

Em chào anhhh Phúc!!

[@nsontung]

anh Phúc mập định chuyển qua Canon ư?

[@phucmapvlog]

@@KhangNguyenMacCo chào bro

[@phucmapvlog]

@@nsontung dạ không ạ, anh rất vừa ý với Sony

[@WestonNey3000]

For me the most important part of an image is how the highlights look. The 5D series deals with highlights way better than most of the new beginner cameras. I shoot with my 5D mark IIIs to this day and they look better than any modern sub $1500 canon mirrorless.

[@philliphead8760]

Thank goodness for these mirrorless systems. Now we can get high quality used DLSRs at highly reduced rates. L lenses and good bodies are now within reach for the average photographer who could not afford them in the past. Nice going Canon.

[@octonolite_0]

Very helpful explanation. I just bought a used 5D2, and I'm glad I did my research beforehand. I'm comfortable I made the right choice for what i need it for.

[@Racing_Fox]

The 5D2 is a bargain of a camera these days, I sold mine a decade ago and still regret it

[@dennisgreene7164]

This is a very good review of both cameras. I have both also and tend to use the M50 for travel and video - the 5D is used mostly for when I feel a bit Cartier-Bresson and want to get arty. The touch screen on the M50 is great - but I have one of those on my old 650d, which is still a great camera.

[@PPYTAO]

I could tell easily which were the 5D images (mostly due to less blown out highlights, warmer colours, better skin tones) but the M50 does a really good job 👌

[@amiame115]

I have always been curious about this! thank you. Love the feel of full frame

[@amiame115]

and I remember how happy I was getting 5d mark iii because of price of the body and lenses but now I am using sony. The AF and dynamic range was what I seek. 5D mark iv for 4k video was too expensive back then and now with them RF lenses, I start to sell all my EF lenses since it is getting too aged. A7rii and a7iii is such good value at this time. And such compact body but I do miss the grip on those canon bodies.

[@ryanzspaulding]

Crazy seeing a video about this, I began my photography journey with a 5D Mk II about 5 years ago and had to get a Mk III about 2 years ago and they’ve been amazing so far. I do wish I could get some chances to see how they stack up against the modern versions of them like the R6 and R5 tho

[@sandmankappa8034]

Interesting comparison. However, you don't show any footage from m50 mark II in your video. You should've mentioned the possibility to use Magic Lantern on 5D mark II. Basic information about lens choices (incl. adapter for m50) would be a good thing to add as well.

[@melvingrimes7886]

The 5d has a warmer feeling to the pictures.

[@michaelbell75]

That was prime Canon colors. They went way downhill by the time the M series was released.

[@sols9449]

Get the 5d for sure. Full frame lenses will have a different feel and effect.

[@mbr5742]

What does a camera have to do with the lenses used? ALL Canon EOS ILC can accept EF lenses

[@sols9449]

@@mbr5742 m50 is garbage compared to any full frame sensor. Buy a 10 year old 5d Mark ii before that thing.

[@JamieSandel]

The M50 images have this distinct “modern mirrorless” vibe to my eye. Things are more defined, almost clinical, and the color is a little less vibrant. I was able to guess based just on that

[@cayden7725]

The colour for me. 5D mk ii was just a tad but more saturated to me.

[@UNSCPILOT]

Nothing that can't be tuned to taste in editing at least, even with just GIMP

[@JamieSandel]

@@UNSCPILOT in my experience it can be very hard to tease out the hyper-specific color details that set different cameras apart. Unless you’re applying a LUT or something

[@MiguelY22]

Tip for beginners: READ YOUR MANUAL, I bought a really old canon camera so I had to search for the manual online. I know what all the buttons on my camera do, big advantage when learning.

[@jrchevy2500]

I bought an a7ii. Now I'm investing in e mount Lenses. When I start making money with photography I will upgrade my camera body.

[@afanasieguler7833]

Did exactly the same, happy with my new A7 iii now.

[@HumancityJunction]

I have been using the 5D Mark II for the last 6 months for live streaming. Just this week I upgraded to a M50 Mark II for the clean HMDI output and the autofocus. I cannot wait to get the M50 Mark II.

[@RArecordingsRickValcon]

you can get clean hdmi out on the 5D mkII with magic lantern.

[@I_am_Jordan_K]

Which lenses did you use for each? I'm wondering how much of a role that played

[@dimaermolenko98]

The lens is everything...most important component.

[@notcirrious]

OK- it's a year later, and this discussion is still relevant- I got sucked into the M system and have the M50 and M6 mk 2- they have lots of awesome features like timelapse, slomo and all that stuff- I even have a a few EF primes knocking about that I use with adaptors- BUT! I was always wondering if I was missing something with full- frame- so I just ordered a D5 mk 2 from a reputable dealer with a low shutter count- it's arriving tomorrow- CAN"T WAIT to try it and can now do my EF primes justice- thanks for giving a nice fair comparison.

[@boris.dupont]

The 5D Mark II was my first pro camera and I still use it from time to time although I switched over to Fujifilm since. In terms of image quality there's a huge difference in my opinion and the 5D is still way better, a difference that will increase depending on the lenses you use. Now for a beginner the M50 is capable enough and a full frame camera is not the easiest one to shoot with so I'd definitely recommend the M50. Now if you know what you're doing the 5D Mark II is still an amazing camera and at this price it's a steal (I paid mine over $4,000 back then as I lived and worked in Europe). Thanks for sharing and have fun!

[@Dzaen2]

Why is a full frame camera not the easiest to shoot with?

[@boris.dupont]

@@Dzaen2 a full frame sensor is more denanding than APSC sensors, it's less forgiving

[@johnp515]

@@boris.dupont Demanding in which way? Less forgiving of what?

[@thetoyota86perspective54]

A full frame camera is more demanding? 😂 biggest nonsense I've read in a while. The M50 is better in every way other than battery life

[@vozyverso]

Very good comparison. But you forgot that the 5D Mark II is powered by Magic Lantern, the very secure and easy-to-install alternative firmware that takes the camera to a level well above more modern cameras, both in video and photography capabilities. You can record unlimited video without limit of minutes, and many other things that I am not going to expose here. Thank you for this magnificent work.

[@cjt5mith]

Great idea for a test. It would also be interesting to compare the second hand 5D II with a new DSLR of the same price, like maybe the 250D.

[@spaceminions]

I own a 5dmk2, owned a 5dmk1, and have used a variety of basic canon apsc cameras in the past. The 5dmk1 and mk2 reward effort - before, during, and after shooting. You want to choose settings deliberately, knowing what you'll get and what you'll do in post processing to get the most of the image. I think some of the comparisons here assume you don't do that. The lens seemed more important than the camera in the first comparisons, judging by the character of the images. Much of what I didn't like about the left images was lens imperfections and the sooc colors being a bit off in some cases. Sticking to SOOC gives newer cameras the advantage usually - along with fuji cameras as it happens - but I don't do it much. For dynamic range, there's a lot more that goes into it than just one camera being better. For one thing, the dynamic range depends on iso. For another, there is a specific situation in which I can get incredible dynamic range from the 5dmk2 - I use the magic lantern firmware and its dual-iso mode. On the other hand, banding is generally worse than plain noise. If you don't shoot in a way that avoids it, you'll have a harder time processing your images. Video is another example of a task where using the magic lantern firmware makes a huge difference - if you don't use it, it's not very good. If you do, it's incredibly good although not in peak resolution and framerate. I don't do it very much either, so I have little to say about it. Something that might matter is the viewfinder size, or the controls/ergonomics, or the IO, etc etc.

[@jedics1]

The M50 gets such positive reviews but this video shows just how good it is for the money, comparable quality to a full frame sensor with more convenience...Would of liked to of known how battery life compares between the two but I still think I will probably go for the M50.

[@GregoryFariss]

CIPA rating is M50II 305 v. 5DmII 850 shots.

[@okaro6595]

@@GregoryFariss The CIPA rating favors DSLRs. It is based on one shot every 30 seconds. Also flash is used on half of the shots so M50II suffers from the internal flash.

[@pnotuner1]

I bought a D3200 and couldn't fumble my way into getting it to take a picture. Sold it in a couple months and got a small sensor bridge camera and have been very happy. Lumix FZ80 and Sony HX400v

[@namouze1]

I rented the small canon m50 mkii and I must say that really enjoyed the compact size (compared to R6 for example), and speedy autofocus with very efficient eye AF in tracking mode. I was just missing a second dial to change aperture and exposure time at the same time. a very likable camera

[@Pidalin]

I am using Panasonic mirrorless system and when I try my father's Canons, I am really glad I picked Panasonic. Image quality may not be that good due to smaller sensor, but everything else is much better on Panasonic, Canon DLSRs feels like something from 19th century when I am used to Panasonic.

[@TechieSewing]

Thank you, that's a great comparison. Video is the reason I eventually added Canon R10 to my 5D II. We get along as far as video goes, unless the camera becomes dead by the time I finish setting the lights up (I got an additional battery now... never needed any for 5D II). But I lost an ability to seriously photograph with crop sensors; the picture in the viewfinder has wrong perspective and that was the reason I switched to a full frame in the first place. Luckily 5D II is still going great and can be used for stills. Its inability to autofocus in the video mode, especially while filming myself, was just impossible to work around.

[@fishpotpete]

Great video. I think you need to mention lens availability. I have a M50 and it's perfect for what I do (KZbin channel and amateur photographer). But I'm already feeling that Canon (or others) need to offer more lens choice for this particular mount. The 5D just would not work for self-shot videos.

[@shutop7321]

Do m50 offer good equality pictures +

[@fishpotpete]

@@shutop7321 It produces excellent pictures. I really think the quality between all these mirrorless cameras are going to be quite similar (among the major brands). It's the feature sets that sets each one apart.

[@mikewileczek5143]

I still use my canon 6d to this day for both professional work and fun wildlife/ portrait. Even use it for pro video work. Learn your gears limits and push it to the very edge.

[@pt257]

The 5D tones are so much richer. I mean look at the hair, eyes, lips, background greens etc She looks lifeless in the M50 photos and the tonality is very poor.

[@mbr5742]

The look on the JPEG depends on the picture style and parameters set in the camera. The gen3 DualPix is overall better than the older tech sensor in the 5D3 in dynamic range

[@elisha2435]

the newer models are just plain sharp and lifeless- the older models have great tonality and character

[@kovernatic]

@@elisha2435 I think it depends on how he set up the cameras really.

[@chrisliles6401]

I’ve been shooting with a 5Dii since 2009, a LOT of video production with it. Never let me down and was so rewarding when shooting with other DP’s who look at you like… “that’s what you’re using?” And then my footage makes the final production while their’s sits on the cutting room floor. Lack of auto focus was a bit frustrating, really had to be on your game. I still shoot my 5Dii underwater and its still producing some great images.

[@ArchinaGM]

When it came to the image comparisons, the thing that screamed "This is the 5D!" to me is how in the first image the foliage in the top-right was processed and also the MASSIVE colour issue on the clothing pattern in the third image. The M50's image looks completely blown up and not very realistic compared to the 5D.

[@whitter86]

not really a fair comparison the m50 is a very low end on the canon range he should have chose a rebel model

[@MmostlyRandom]

​@@whitter86 in terms of price it is a very fair comparison (and this is what he is basing his comparison on) what can you get for the same or less money than a low end modern M50 you can pick up a 5d mk2 body for close to half the price of an m50 and it's gonna take better stills. that's the whole point of the video. a modern rebel model costs significantly more than a 2nd hand 5dMk2 the 5d mk2 was an amazing camera when it released and its still an amazing camera today.

[@AbhinavanandSingh]

Apart from the most obvious aspects, just holding a 5D series model makes you feel like a serious photographer (from within)!

[@carismamedia4039]

this is literally the exact comparison I wanted to see, thank you!

[@mihan2d]

Me too, kinda. Except my comparison is a little less extreme which makes it all the more hard. I consider between a used Nikon D610 vs a new (or lightly used) Canon M5. The first one is much more modern than D5 II in this video and pretty advanced for a used old DSLR but the M5 is not quite a beginner camera to start with, more like enthusiast level, for the time, with a lot of modern features, very light and compact, better video capabilities, but alas more expensive (I'm upgrading from a Nikon so will have to buy a new lens or a kit) and not a full frame... I'd go full ahead with M5, it's just so much more convenient and I like its useful features but the price difference scares me away a bit :(

[@aryahanafi9355]

for everyone that choose 5d II, what u guys choose as the first lens..?, is tamron 24-70mm f2.8 good choice for it, or there another lens with cheap price that fits better..?

[@Sixteen0Four]

If you like doing portraits, the 5D2 is still amazing. I'm still using one and I simply couldn't bother upgrading. With my 100mm and the Sigma 35A it is a portrait and boudoir machine that lacks nothing but some more AF points.

[@TreacherousFennec]

am i the only one who has a beef with camera bodies getting smaller? new mirrorless Z7 of my friend's is so teeny tiny compared to my D3s and D850. i love the big grips, rich buttons, mechanic sound of the mirror flapping and i love battery grips. my hands arent all that big but apparently i got so used to the big form factor that i dont feel at home with smaller, newer bodies :/

[@selgeaus]

This is like comparing a 12 year old Mercedes to a brand new Toyota Corolla

[@papabones-G48]

Thank You for posting! I'm in the market for a camera but know nothing about them! 'KEEP ON KEEPIN ON'!

[@thehumanityoflife6460]

Buy a used Canon 5D Mark2 on Etsy, or Mercari. Save some money. Ebay tends to be more expensive.

[@MillaExplores]

Very interesting comparison! The M50 is great for youtube videos and the small size makes it so easy to take with me on trips, but the 5Dll really takes such stunning photos. I would love to have a 5Dll for photography! ✨😊

[@thehumanityoflife6460]

Buy a used one on Etsy, Mercari, or Ebay instead of a new one. I got a Canon 5d mark2 body for $403 on Ebay.

[@ChoaYeon]

HAHA i sold my 5d mkiii for a M50. After shooting with my 5d kiwi for all my work related shoots (super street, car shows, other companies) i ended up selling the 5dmkiii and stayed with the m50, i just wanted something to see what a little camera can do and it was a nice way to get into the mirror less side of things. I'll be upgrading to the Eros r5 or the Eros r3 somewhere this year or next year, but as of now i love my M50 a lot more and so much easier to bring one body and more heavy lenses when traveling.

[@idhamzaharudie]

One word: Lenses EF mount has AMAZING set of lenses available compare to the inferior (down right embarrassing) EF-M mount P/s: I'm a nikon shooter

[@tuyetphong]

EF-M mount do have decent lens, and at the end of the day, sharpness is just a tool in the photographer arsenals. Too bad EF-M isn't a good investment.

[@messylaura]

i have the M50 there are some great lenses there, besides you can use all the ef lenses too, the big and vantage is the smaller size of the M50 and native lenses, if i'm out with a small bag i can take the M50 every time, if i had the bigger body like the 5mk2 then it would be left on the self more often the only down side to the M50 that would matter to the more pro shooters would be the buffer size for raw burst and a single card slot, but then again it is an entry level camera. i shoot wildlife at 800mm right down to 2mm macro (2mm on the sensor without crop)

[@ryek.4162]

@@tuyetphong Ikr. I use an m6 Mark II for video, but the lens choices makes it frustrating

[@matsjonsson4019]

I enjoyed that comparison. I'm a Nikon man but I am sure the comparison carries over between brands. Well done

[@sergiosanjuan1166]

This is actually the kind of video i needed to get me started in this journey of photography, thanks man