NEW Castle Mamba Monster X 8s Review & 120+ Mph test!

Castle released a 1/6 ESC! Amazing quality, feel and performance. How well does it perform though? Watch the video to find out how it does over 120+ Mph!
#MambaMonsterX8S
#InnovationRC
#CastleCreations

[@goretro77hobbies]

1 year later this video has convinced me to get my own limitless and Castle Mamba Monster X 8s. I don't plan to beat any records but just want to enjoy owning and running recreational speed runs!

[@wabash9000]

My favorite part is when you push the car at 7:27 and realized that you didn't need to do that. Nothing like smooth startup on a 121mph car.

[@rcbustanut2057]

Castle has definitely stepped up their game with the MMX 8S & the XLX2. I have used both on my Limitless and they run incredibly cool. I'm currently running the XLX2 w/ a 1717 1650kv motor on my Limitless now. I just geared her back down to 1:1 (34/34) to have fun with shorter runs. Even on 8S, I can do multiple passes @ ~117mph avg back to back, like 4-5 passes & the freaking thing stays cool. After that many passes, the motor was the warmest component at ~150F, no fans. Even when I geared her pretty high, pulling almost 15hp, I was able to get 2 runs & the ESC never got past 152F, which is well under the 200F limit they call out. We'll see what #s I get with the 1721 2400kv when I get that in, I can't wait to try it out. 😎👍

[@ant9072]

I'm buying the 1520 1650kv castle motor for my felony. Since you have both is the mm8s enough or is is worth the upgrade to the xl2? Thanks.

[@rcbustanut2057]

@@ant9072 Hi, it all depends on what you're doing with the car. If you're doing speedruns and looking into getting into the ~130mph+ range, then yes, the XLX2 is definitely worth it because it's going to run a lot more efficiently than the MMX 8S. If you're bashing around or doing lower speedruns in the 100-130mph range, the MMX 8S will be fine. You will however need a good cap pack with the MMX 8S. The XLX2 performs amazing without a cap pack. I have done 120mph runs on the XLX2 with ripple voltage of only 0.93V. That's amazing!! Here's a link from Innovation RC covering a more detailed breakdown between the Castle ESCs: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJjRgYeHnJ2fZ6s Also, if you currently have any old 6S ESC, working or not working, Castle brand or not, you can send it to castle creations for an upgrade to an xlx2 for $123 out the door. That's an over $127 saving as they go for $250 +tax. I just sent them an old Arrma Blx185 system, the ESC was good but the motor was shot. They're sending me an xlx2 & a 1717 1650kv motor for $275 out the door. Something to think about 😎👍

[@ant9072]

@@rcbustanut2057 wow thanks for the detailed response. I will mostly be parking lot bashing with occasional speed runs. Nothing crazy just looking to break 100. The roads here aren't very good for speed runs. But the xlx2 is only 50 dollars more. With no cap pack needed it makes more sense. I'm just gonna be running 6s for bashing and 8 s for speed runs. I'm just hoping the xlx2 isn't too much for 6s. Also I have a busted vxl 6s so if they will take that definitely going to trade In. Thanks for all the help!

[@80jamarr]

@@rcbustanut2057 how does the trade in work

[@genisdevlin2751]

Absolutely great review!! Very honest and very to the point. Nothing sugar coated. Clean passes and system held up very well!!

[@BitcoinGTR]

Wow! What an ESC! I need one of these in my life! Great footage!

[@BrianW2979]

I love the sound as it goes by. almost sounds like a real Indy car

[@borntofishfishtillidie6454]

Sound music to my ears 👍🏽👏🏽✌🏽

[@uivideo7637]

Nice reviews thx, just bought Mamba X 8S.

[@walttrowbridge7687]

Well, I think I have now decided on a combo for my new limitless. Been setting for a month to decide what I wanna put in it. Awesome man!

[@1521joe]

You get that combo yet bro?

[@walttrowbridge7687]

@@1521joe I sure did. Got it last week. Pretty nice. Made it a few 109+ mph passes and I lost control. Got a on board video uploaded on my channel of the whole thing. Just got it rebuilt yesterday. Went up a couple sizes on the pinion. Now I'm just waiting for a day that isn't so windy and going for another run.

[@1521joe]

@@walttrowbridge7687 esc fit in stock tray? Temps on 34spur and 27t pinion ok?

[@walttrowbridge7687]

@@1521joe yes it ran phenomenal.. dont think I even went past 100 degrees running 8s with the 1717 1650kv combo

[@1521joe]

@@walttrowbridge7687 Thankyou for the feedback my man. much appreciated

[@Yo0ne]

iam so happy to see your work speed again Bro.!!

[@DaveItYourselfChannel]

The was the COOLEST video due to literally everything being so COOL and COOL that I have seen in a long time! So, that's cool.

[@DangaRanga]

Ive data logged 195 amps through my mamba x routinely. Love them

[@InnovationRC]

Mamba x is surely an evolved esc of its time. Mmx8s is now it's bigger brother...

[@DangaRanga]

@@InnovationRC this new esc has caught my attention really hard. I have the monster x 6s and i dont have the confidence in it like i do my normal mamba x as ive blown one up in my kraton after 2 runs on 6s. May have to preorder one as a backup to my xlx in my limitless as it scares the hell out of me that it'll blow up Everytime lmao And fwiw i push 8s through my 1515 2200kv in my limitless and she takes it just fine lol

[@InnovationRC]

@@DangaRanga exactly as I thought. It's the newer evolved version of the mamba x. The mamba x is better than most 1/8 escs

[@cowpker4life333]

The normal mamba x??? Thing runs hot as hell with a 2400kv 1415 on 4s lol.

[@shawnjohnson7674]

@@cowpker4life333 i run it 6s in my trx4 lol the fan hardly turns on

[@UDRC85]

That car is moving!! That mamba system is killing it.💯💯

[@STEVOD313]

Awesome Brandon! Some good info, thanks for sharing bro

[@InnovationRC]

appreciate it Stevo 💪

[@mohdkhairulhidayatabdulrah4157]

Wow..very nice..castle never disappointed us

[@InnovationRC]

There's more videos incoming through the week Testing the MMX8S! Be sure to subscribe!

[@1521joe]

Hey Bro. You got your motor mount switched over. That MMX 8S Dont it fir in the stock ESC tray?

[@bradb8580]

Does it matter which way motor wires or plugged in to esc since its not a sensored motor?

[@marksmola7299]

Very nice . Thanks for the video

[@zingzing_media]

Wow that thing was fast!! Super fun to watch pal love it!!

[@InnovationRC]

Glad you enjoyed the video

[@Ben-pj1sx]

Cutting Edge! Thanks for this!

[@jasonbudd2950Jag]

Great system. Flying & With a Sensored Motor too. 👍

[@everythingrc2324]

Well considering after a certain load it goes sensorless anyways >.>

[@Ikonzrc]

Bro love your videos keep them coming

[@jstagzsr]

i wanna see this monster on 8s!!

[@MT-THNDR207]

The 1515 2200kv would definitely have to be swapped to the 1717 line

[@philthyco1]

That is a nice ESC brother! Crazy speed!

[@InnovationRC]

Appreciate it man!

[@soflorclife6970]

Bro your killin it out there!! Good stuff man.... except for the charger smoking ouch. Killer setup man cool motor & nice times!!! 👊🏼😎👍🏼Top notch brother 💯🔥

[@InnovationRC]

Thanks man! Appreciate it. Meh, it was a Traxxas charger 😜

[@GreatLakesRC]

Oh man! I need one of these bad!

[@CmwSpeedrunUk]

Great video

[@InnovationRC]

Thank you sir

[@Antsmith21]

I watched the entire video like this 🤯

[@InnovationRC]

That's why they called me to do it 😊

[@Antsmith21]

So my question is what’s next for the XLX?

[@InnovationRC]

@@Antsmith21 it's going to be discontinued. Xlx is using the same parts ever since the original XL. Castle can't source parts for it and replace them anymore since everyone's blowing them up. So this is step one for them to get back on top again.

[@choke666]

GOOD GOD MAN! 15MPH FASTER THAN LAST TIME I WATCHED THIS VIDEO!

[@frankiehernandez9465]

Awesome vid. Castle is Top Notch.

[@gonzodetroitify]

Awesome show here but the best for me was when u pushed him, at 7:28😬 I always wanned to know why folk push him as they start, now I know, what a G u is🏁💯💯

[@pumarc2361]

that's crazy fast

[@davemesler6644]

How did you mount the on/off switch to the esc

[@31Sebast]

That’s insane bro. Daammmmmmmmmm

[@ldsams1]

Why make a video on the New 8s esc and only run it 6s, that defeats the purpose. Test the thing if you going to test it, throw some cells to it

[@InnovationRC]

Testing amperage capabilities. What many escs fail to achieve efficiently

[@ernazhuzan3328]

what ratio do you use for the rc? (pinion & spurs gear)🙏

[@icoolguy23]

2 years later and im trying to figure out the same question

[@WillieWheels]

Hey what’s your gears

[@DavidGomez-ss5ue]

Damnnnnnn Castle Kill in itttt 😎

[@shawnjohnson7674]

Just got my monster x 8s ! putting the new 2028 and it my xmaxx

[@motortoys9942]

Castles Max6 haha nice. May have to cop one of these. My Max6 never missed a beat at high speed but boy do I love the adjustability of my other castles

[@dustinsmith7291]

Nice vid! Quality content! Epic speed! Is there a link to this esc?

[@skycorrigan6511]

Just grabbed one of these for my TP 4070 in the ET48 2.0! I'll have to mod somethings to make it all fit, but it should be a fun time.

[@Chris-adams-rc-journey]

How did it run in your setup?

[@PIZZA_and_NITRO]

What motor are you running? Did I hear you say 2200?

[@Orxan4ik]

sick!!!

[@jamesthird2619]

I’m stuck between the cobra8 and the mmx8s. I don’t really know which one to put in my typhon build

[@InnovationRC]

If you never intend to go 8s, go with the Cobra. If you intend to do have speed runs it's then hey the x8s

[@jamesthird2619]

@@InnovationRC I will go 6s max. Maybe at a later date I’ll try 8s. Thanks

[@jamesthird2619]

@@InnovationRC I might just go ahead and go with the mmx 8s and a 2200kv v2 motor. That way I can play around and do speed runs. I’ll get a spool to put in when I wanna do speed runs

[@BossBoss-jw6uj]

You said mild gearing? What was the gearing. It's a bit frustrating when all info is not given. We all know motors, esc's, that's the easy part but gearing and steering servos and receiver's are almost never explained. I baught a limitless, but have no idea what reciever or servo to buy. Gearing can be figured out for cheap. Please help, anyone.

[@pauls247]

Sic!! Run bro. Nothing is catching that. What mount are you using to hold down that monster?

[@tusipuede4443]

Nice I'm about to get one of those esc and put it in my slash 4x4 with a 4600 kv that I have installed already!!!!👿👿😈😈😈😈

[@InnovationRC]

You'll love this esc. So much efficiency

[@tusipuede4443]

@@InnovationRC I will need a fan for the motor too,cause it gets hot,do you recommend any?!?!,

[@InnovationRC]

@@tusipuede4443 NTF, contact Nicholas Tordella on Facebook

[@tusipuede4443]

@@InnovationRC ok my brother thanks 👏🙏👏🙏👏🙏👍👍👍

[@mikeinvegas1]

Hi. Beautiful car and setup. Please i want to build one like that. What esc. And motor .and servo etc are u using. ? Appreciate it here from las Vegas:)

[@bertcogg3512]

Nice what gear were you running

[@davidtodd4035]

Quick question, what gears are you using on the different runs?

[@Gex121]

Why do people say 5S when cell is spelled with a C?

[@NateHarrisCreations]

Almero because the "s" is for the batteries being in series

[@Gex121]

@@NateHarrisCreations That actually makes sense, but i think you mean the cells in series. I also thought it might be because a battery has a "c" charge rating and that would be confusing, but your explanation makes more sense.

[@NateHarrisCreations]

@@Gex121 yes, each cell

[@rclife9725]

I'm trying to get a castle set up in my Typhon the monster x8s

[@suachualaptop-macbookuytin9305]

Incredibly fast speed.ghost speed

[@peterronzoni9264]

That was fast!! I love it. What tires are you running?

[@InnovationRC]

Thanks! Grp velocity s5

[@Tejaye777]

Hi bro.How is the Mamba Monster x 8s performing?I'm thinking of buying it but my experience with Castle products hasn't been good bought three Mamba Monsters and two failed within less than two months and sold the other and replaced it with a Hobbywing Max8.

[@stevenpowers9761]

Needs to run 8s at least!

[@oursostv999]

Hello the monster x 8s can mount on x maxx or he need esc mount ? Thanks nice video

[@DetoursRC]

Just ordered the mmx8s for my infraction v2.stoked. What speeds do you think ill get with the stock infraction motor? Is the stock motor too high kv for this esc on 6s?

[@ramos.nitrorc]

does the x8s usually have a kind of weak brake...even though mine is set to 100% it doesnt brake as quickly as a fIRMA ESC

[@joetrevino5110]

I want that car 💯

[@Icantdrive55]

You should put one in the Kraton 8s so no more cut off. Nice review.

[@InnovationRC]

I did, check out a newer video

[@TylerSaleik]

Since you’re kind of a castle expert, what would you get for bashing, the mm2 or Mmx?

[@toysforboysrc]

What would run better on 6s with the 1650kv, the Monster X or the X8s??? Remember we’re on 6s.

[@tobydyes]

Maybe you can answer a question for me can I run a 1520 sensored Castle motor 8s on a castle Mamba Monster X 6s or will I have a problem

[@InnovationRC]

Absolutely yes you can. The 1520 is rated up to 8s though, which isn't an issue. Esc maxes out at 6s

[@timt8029]

What kind of road is that you are running on? That is a sweet spot for speed runs.

[@InnovationRC]

Appreciate it but this road isn't long enough. It's great for the speed you saw in this video

[@calebm7133]

Check out tp-power for your motors trust me they never disappoint. And can make it custom the way you want it.

[@Zephairein]

Is this using that 2028 sensored (800kv) castle motor?

[@InnovationRC]

No sir, 2200kv

[@DietPizza1]

Do you like the Castle over Hobbywing?

[@Nick-tr2zd]

Just wondering how long have you been using that charger?? Thanks!!

[@hunterjames5819]

how much Amps can that mamba x that small one take safety thanks Have a good day

[@InnovationRC]

100a I have pulled back to back a few times

[@DangaRanga]

Out of curiosity. What did the amperage look like from the log on the high geared 6s pass?

[@InnovationRC]

That will be tomorrow's video! I do two passes and show data log. With and without a capacitor.

[@DangaRanga]

@@InnovationRC lol darn subbed 👍 Looking forward as i know what ive logged through my 1515 on the xlx

[@DangaRanga]

@@InnovationRC just ordered one. Website updated with stock

[@baileyboy081686]

What motor you running

[@haks_123]

can i do the same set up as yours but 8s insted? will the esc take it?

[@InnovationRC]

Yes and yes!

[@haks_123]

@@InnovationRC thankss

[@BrianW2979]

Do you know if the Mamba Monster X can handle a TP 4070-SCM 3930kv motor? Looking at it for speed runs in a slash 4x4.

[@InnovationRC]

It can, but I wouldn't run an scm motor in anything go for a 2200kv cm it'll do better

[@DaVeHiLl200]

DUDE! Can't believe you did that, killed your charger. Always wire the negative first when wiring to car batteries brother or smoke may come out and it's impossible to get it back in 🤣🤣 Easy mistake to make especially when excited 😁 that cars shifts, I can only imagine your excitement when making these videos man. I too have done the same mistake in the past, was wiring a heater. Fitting it, wired red before black, fried it but luckily I only fried the fuses. Adding a fuse to your wiring harness would save your equipment in the future bro from such mistakes. Fuses cost pennies, chargers are a little more expensive. Hope this saves your equipment and yourself cash in the future brother 🙂✌

[@InnovationRC]

It doesn't matter what ends plugged in first. It was already choking to begin with so I'm happy to get rid of it and buy a new one

[@jprc1386]

Completely right bro. Negative first fir both AC and DC current. Looked liked an overly excited rookie mistake. All good happens too even the best.

[@InnovationRC]

@@jprc1386 note taken for the future otherwise!

[@DaVeHiLl200]

@@jprc1386 thanks brother 🙂👍 Information on the internet of this conflicts but I know from experience having fried equipment by making the same mistake. We make mistakes especially when excited or in a hurry, we're fallible men! Wiring negative first helps eliminate the initial power surge created by arching apparently 😁✌

[@futuremotoringdetailcaraud7193]

is that 1515 motor?

[@waynepage8570]

got a feeling spektrum smart 160 6 to 8 cells would do it also

[@fernandosanz5147]

Guys I have a Traxxas 6 rock crawler would it be possible to use this wicked motor and ESC ? I want both speed and something that can hang the weight of it since is roughly about 15lbs please any suggestions are appreciated 🙏🏻

[@InnovationRC]

Probably could but the torque may blow the trx transmission

[@spekz718]

What's the name of the temperature device you are using??

[@tonycoffee7335]

Awesome car great video, also please trade in the Chrysler 200 before the transmission falls out or you have an electrical nightmare...

[@InnovationRC]

I have been told before about the car

[@mathiasrc2949]

Whitch motor did you USE , vis im doing a 8s limitless build

[@MZBallistic]

Good runs. Quick question what are safe temps for this esc and the xlx?

[@InnovationRC]

Thanks! Usually for all escs 170°F and under I like to keep them. Sure they can operate at higher Temps but the best performance happens the colder it usually is

[@FLSharkdiver]

#InnovationRC - Sick run brother!! I am thinking about either going with an Infraction or a limitless!! I'm not looking to break any world records but if I do go with an Infraction what motor and ESC would you recommend switching out in the infraction? Or if I go with a Limitless, what motor and ESC! I AM JUST LOOKING TO JOIN THE 100MPH CLUB! Would this be a good set up with a ripple cap pack and the Castle Creations Mamba Monster X 8S, 33.6V Esc W/ 1717-1650Kv

[@InnovationRC]

Appreciate it man. I mean you can easily do 120 with a Castle 1515 2200kv with the Mamba monster X 8s on 6s. Can also do it with the 1717 on 6 or 8s just more money. 1717 will easily handle longer runtimes over the 2200. The mamba monster x 8s is more efficient than an xlx with any cap pack. You don't even need to run one to break 100. Literally buy the 2200kv motor and mmx8s and your set for 130+ mph. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKrTlotpecd0orc

[@FLSharkdiver]

@@InnovationRC Thanks brother, I really enjoyed the interview they did with you on your rigs and the other guy! Anyways, so go with the Mamba X and the Castle 2200kv motor in the limitless and add some Yeah racing fans and I should be good to go... It necessary to get a ripple cap pack? Is this the combo - www.amainhobbies.com/castle-creations-monster-x-1-8-brushless-combo-w-1512-sensored-motor-cse010-0145-04/p587670?gclid=CjwKCAjw9vn4BRBaEiwAh0muDBLZlSB5iouW5nGeMJ5LPk6QJQm6VjinklXYkx_yLPyAiotmCVvKKhoCbnMQAvD_BwE

[@Moolaz]

what receiver and transmitter are you using?

[@dustinsmith7291]

What is the part number for the motor you are running?

[@joedingwerth9611]

When arr they going to be released

[@InnovationRC]

Currently at castlecreations.com

[@deezo5617]

What gear did you change it to and is that the stock spool

[@carlosbarbosa367]

no the problem was when you have the car working the battery is in 14 v not 12 v because the alternator.that´s wy you fried your charger.

[@dertester000]

which motor pinion do you drive?

[@javierduran2328]

this mamba work with 12s too???

[@robertabrams91]

Does anyone know how many amps the castle creation sidewinder 8th scale esc has?

[@tasleemansari4267]

I want rc car how can buy?

[@InnovationRC]

Horizonhobby.com

[@bimmerlife5452]

Dam bro I love watching your videos can you turn my typhon in to speed demon so it can do 100mph mine is only doing 60 on 3s

[@CTbmx86]

What gearing are you running

[@Rcsam89]

Can the 1515 handle 8s?

[@crisyouknow4463]

Hey what motor is that?

[@chupapi2250]

So you think this would be a great esc for the kraton 8s over max5?

[@InnovationRC]

I believe it would be a close competitor for the max 5. I'm veering more towards it being better than the max 5, it's cryo drive is something else regarding efficiency

[@GeneralHobbies]

very well... so castle was working......lol

[@slidinsidewayzproductionss7906]

If you are not uncomfortable talking about, what hearing are u running or should I say what gearing would you recommend for speed running and bashing with this set up

[@InnovationRC]

I'm not uncomfortable. I don't want people blowing up other escs and blame castle for a bad product as many did. Because they don't know how critical it is to let it cool after one pass with this gearing. Direct drive. One pass let it cool

[@slidinsidewayzproductionss7906]

Innovation RC ok so what gearing would be best max top speed with one run. Taking into consideration letting the unit cool before making another pass or running another time after one pass

[@InnovationRC]

@@slidinsidewayzproductionss7906 it depends on your motor and length of road

[@vinsanitysmet]

That was a 2200 castle motor?

[@InnovationRC]

Yessir

[@samdog357]

What amp rating is it... I heard 130 amps if so how its going to replace a XLX

[@wabash9000]

For the speedruns, it isn't going to keep up with the pure power output of the XLX(it is a 2/3s the size), but for bashing where you spend a lot of time at partial throttle, it is going to work just as well as the XLX in 1/5-1/7 scale vehicles thanks to Cryo-Drive. There is a reason it has the Monster name, if it was to replace the XLX it would have an XL name. More ESC's are to come this year, but for now this is going to fill a very nice gap in the market for people that need more than a Monster X, but don't quite need an XLX for their setup. If you ever hear an amp rating for any ESC from anyone from Castle, keep in mind that is the number of amps it can do constantly for 5 minutes. Peaks are going to be much higher than that number. He is going to post another video showing datalogs soon, check that video out to see how much it can really handle. Castle doesn't publish these numbers because most of our competitors have highly inflated numbers compared to our numbers. Every ESC has a number assigned to it internally for comparing Castle products against each other, but they are not published because it wouldn't market well to customers who were comparing Castle's numbers to the competition who define 'constant' to be several seconds.

[@paulwizal23d89]

wabash9000 you said not great for speed runs? He just hit 121 on 6s and didn’t even go to its potential, I wouldn’t said not great for speed runs! I would say it’s good for speed runs just not as good as an xlx esc would hold up! And the amps are 50 less then what the xlx is capable. I mean let me know if I’m wrong? Cuz this video makes me just wanna purchase one of these instead of xlx, just knowing that the specs are lowing the. The xlx but here he is running a 1/7 with speeds of 120!! With no cap pack!! There’s something in that big boy! Plus this will save a lot of space and easier to instal then the big xlx beast!!

[@wabash9000]

@@paulwizal23d89 I'll admit it seems pretty badass so far. We never intended it(or the 1515) to draw 330 amps. When we were designing it our goal was to make something 15-20% better than a Monster X to compete with the Max 6 in continuous performance and work as a drop in for the x-maxx. We never expected it to blow the Max 5 out of the water in peak performance. In the first week that customers have had the product, we've seen more videos that have amazed us in engineering than we ever saw with the XLX. I've seen several datalogs from this ESC that show close to 400 amps and the ESC wasn't even hot yet, but ~400 amps in the highest reading the datalog will show so it might have been even higher that that. One warning about running 400 amps, the people that have run that much power have had the motor wires come unsoldered from the bullets by the ESC. If a wire comes unsoldered and contacts on of the other motor wires/bullets it will destroy the ESC(I know, I've done it in testing). Make sure the bullets are very tight and hard to insert(tension can be adjusted by sticking something in the end of the bullet to force the legs of the bullet out) and make sure that there is ample heat shrink over the solder joint so that it can't short between the phases. It might be a good idea to put a piece of heat shrink over the wire unshrunk before inserting the bullet and then sticking it down over the bullet in the ESC and shrink it in order to cover all exposed metal from the bullet. We knew that the choice to use 6.5mm motor bullets on the ESC was going to be the limiting factor, but we never expected people to hit it so fast.