New Corvette Stingray C8 v Porsche 911 review | USA's hottest v Europe's best | Autocar

[@robertedwards7430]

For Christ sakes is there one single automobile test in Europe where the pavement isn't wet or its not raining lmao

[@Jr_5646]

If you live in the states the c8 is a hell of a bargain. At least they will be when sold at MSRP. In europe not so much. The importing costs are just too expensive. I can see why the porsche would be the better bargain there.

[@MegaVinny73]

Yep. This is the reason not to buy one in the UK presently. Its not the physical import cost itself, its the taxes and profit margin on top. I've seen them for an incredibly inflated cost of £129,000 in the UK, there are many better options available for those fortunate enough to have that sort of money for a car, and cheaper. Closer to US base cost, these would sell very well in the UK.

[@M4X1]

With it’s reliability I wouldn’t call it a good deal.

[@johnnyboy1586]

Yep same in NZ

[@JJ_Khailha]

Still cheap in the UK compared with the porsche

[@King_droid4908]

Corvette are just made for the usa not for the other country

[@elias8294]

I love how Europeans are hating on this car when gm literally can't keep up with the number of orders being placed for it. People are speaking with their wallets, it's a great car.

[@M4X1]

It’s a good car until the warranty expires, then you’re getting completely fucked with all the reliability issues.

[@johndessire399]

@@M4X1I don’t know what you’re talking about Corvettes are know for their reliability.

[@M4X1]

@@johndessire399 Whatever you say, we’ll see in the future.

[@aimxdy8680]

@@M4X1 Corvettes are known for reliability, there is a 700,000 mile C5 corvette, I can literally go on cargurus and there would be thousands of C6 and C5s with 150,000+ miles, try again.

[@M4X1]

@@aimxdy8680 Any car can get 6 and 7 figure miles the question just is how many engine and transmission repairs you need

[@richardschwartz5187]

Corvette factory in Bowling Green, Kentucky is producing right hand drive cars as 01/07/2021.

[@donzornes7640]

I just took delivery of my C8 convertible,3LT,Z51 What a car!!!!!

[@brozbro]

1st time I've heard the Corvette referred to as "lovely".

[@DigitalSubset]

Are you European? That’s probably why. Jeremy clarkson is like jesus to yall

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

Say what you want about corvettes but you aren’t getting close to them for the price in the US plus, you aren’t getting anywhere near the maintenance free mileage. I have multiple friends with >250,000 mile corvettes that still drive. Zero German or Italian sports cars anywhere close to that many miles without major overhauls.

[@matthewmonteiro6736]

@@Heywoodthepeckerwood Porsches get high miles without major work

[@OscarLeeMX]

The Corvette looks weird at the rear to me. I'm sure it's because of the weirdly contrived overhang which they put in to create that tiny boot.

[@rideroll9609]

yes its ugly AF...

[@TheZ06Drifter]

It’s because they put the exhaust on the sides NOT in the center like all mid engine cars to make it practical ! Americans have a stupid obsession in that every corvette has to fit a set of golf clubs in the back and that’s why it looks ugly

[@Dyltheboy]

The trunk is not that “ tiny”

[@Dyltheboy]

@DJGladTV Most people can’t even tell what generation, and even which type of Porsche it is because they all look alike. I’ve never seen a car brand stick to the same design for so long

[@Dyltheboy]

@@TheZ06Drifter I’d rather it be more practical and look weird towards the back, than to look better and not be practical at all. You barely even spend time looking at the outside of your car.

[@Liplip40]

Solid review. My neighbor here in California just sold his C7 to somebody in the Netherlands ! And upgrade to a C8. Now as a Porsche owner, the C7 steering was pretty damn good and damn near my 997 S in terms of feel, and the interiors on the higher spec models are pretty damn decent. The C8 is another huge step forward. They’re really getting pretty good. However, here in the states they’re a relative deal. A fully loaded 3LT Z51 $90k or so before tax compared to a base 911 starting at $100k or so. From the sounds of it, very different than in the UK

[@KnightDriveTV]

Z51 adds an e-diff, not a limited slip...mechanical limited slip is standard, e-diff comes with the Z51.

[@user-rx9ny4yo2e]

Sorry but whats the advantage of the e-diff?

[@elias8294]

@@user-rx9ny4yo2e more grip when cornering

[@olderavideogamereviews5705]

The c8 is the best American car in ages. It’s one of my favourite cars, the c7 was awesome,but this is next level.

[@mshinn13]

My son had a C7 and got the c8 a few months ago and they are both crazy cars but you are right, the c8 is insane. I drive super car, a 2008 Hyundai Sonata, and his c8 seems a little bit faster than my Hyundai.... at least he lets me drive his car pretty much anytime he goes out of town for work, all I have to do is drive him to the airport.

[@Outpolecat5278]

@@mshinn13 good son haha

[@norwegianblue2017]

The thing to remember is that this is the base model and is a car that most buyers will never put on the track. The Z06 model will be a high-revving track monster.

[@lanceboullion9888]

I own a 2018 911 GTS and a 2020 c8. I love the look of both a lot but in my experience, the 911 is faster, sounds better, feels better, and is more fun to drive. I wanna love the c8, but Porshe beats it.

[@Etruscan70]

One car is 180k the other is 80k, it should be better.

[@aaronvector4750]

Take off the roof of your vette

[@Punzrox]

corvette C8 is actually something to behold, its a modern baby 458 italia.

[@blaster915]

EXACTLY!!! it looks like what would happen if Lamborghini designed the 458!!

[@sultanr932]

@@blaster915 don't be silly. It looks like FerrariLamboWannaBe. Car is ugly

[@MrJrolon1975]

@Sultan R Wrong, C8 has supercar performance and styling for half or even less than the price for a Porsche, Lambo oh Ferrari.

[@PaulLukeBonenfant]

That 911 is timeless, gorgeous, and faster around a track.

[@flyingphoenix113]

At its price, it should be.

[@elias8294]

It’s nice but way too pricey in America. Corvette is the more sensible choice for Americans

[@squadmaster114]

I think the 9/11 a ugly beetle 🐞 but thats just my opinion

[@craigthescott5074]

You mean the 911 is ugly 50 plus year old design that’s twice as much money as the Corvette with less performance. Once the C8 Z06 is out nothing under 300K will touch it. Just like the C8R is dominating the race tracks now.

[@PaulLukeBonenfant]

@@craigthescott5074 911 turbo. and every 911 is worth the price, trust me. drive one

[@drewmorg.]

And the sad thing is here in the US, we have the reverse issue with 911's being extra expensive and the Corvette really being the only sensible "bang for the buck" option. For the same sort of money you'd spend on a 997.1 Carrera S you'd be into a C7 Corvette Stingray Z51 and I don't think anyone can really argue which is the better car there. As soon as you get into the $60k+ territory you're talking about "like new" C7 Z06.... when you can only get into a 991.1 S. And for that money here you're already talking about a NEW C8 Corvette.

[@user-rx9ny4yo2e]

Indeed. In Europe you need to make a choice the 911 which goes better through the curvy roads with better interior or the Corvette which is faster in the straights and with a Lesser interior. In Canada and USA there's no discussion Corvette is a bargain. And for places where the vette is not oficially imported (such as where I live) the Corvette makes no sense with the 911 being 3/4 of it's price. That's what I think, Corvette is very reliant on its price

[@drewmorg.]

@@user-rx9ny4yo2e 100% agreed. At US based prices the Corvette is a steal and it depreciates very affordably as well. It's cheap to run here and there is a Chevrolet dealership on every corner. It's not a rare car while still having that cool factor that everyone seems to stare even at a base model C7 driving down the street. They have almost a super car presence with a huge fan base and yes they are all fast in the straights and curves while maybe lacking some of the steering feel and refinement of 911. The "Porsche tax" her is very real and painful to buy and run them. And oddly going back to the "super car presence" you will generally get more attention in a Corvette than a 911 if you happen to care about that sort of thing. This all being said if 911 and Corvette were in the same ballpark of price given their model year it would be a much more interesting discussion.

[@user-rx9ny4yo2e]

@@drewmorg. In Brazil (where I live) a Corvette would cost R$900.000( $173,300 us dollars) and the base 911 and C2s respectively costing R$ 600.000( $115,000) and R$ 780.000 ($150,000). If only GM imported the Vette officialy... To have an Idea a Bentley Continental GT costs 1 Million R$ ($200,000)

[@davidnicholson6680]

Yeah, this is not a comparison that makes sense in the US. Very few are going to be cross shopping the V8 and a 911 here.

[@user-rx9ny4yo2e]

@@davidnicholson6680 Even tough both are sports cars with similar performance, no one is doubting themselves betweem them, totally diferent cars

[@healthyamerican]

never-mind the interior stitching, that V8 i could listen to all day long

[@sultanr932]

@@Roughneckwrangler hell no. Sound is very usual and has no soul

[@Getusom]

@@sultanr932what ever dude. That car sounds awesome….actually they both sound good to me

[@markmetivier1416]

1LT with the Z51 package will run you $66k roughly in the states. Fairly unbeatable at that price. I went 1LT with Magnetic Ride for $63k.

[@barrybarnes96]

was the batman costume included for free?

[@ajunta2270]

I'm not from the states, but there is simply no competition for it at that price. Closest thing dynamically would be a base cayman S... which is just lame in comparison. The only thing I wish the C8 had is a manual transmission.

[@longtailgt]

The Corvette offers incredible performance for its price, but let's not forget that the 911 offers way more than just performance. Interior quality, build quality, refinement, practically and it'll last a lot longer as well. Basically you get what you pay for.

[@TheKingkingg]

I own m Both gen nsx and 2020 911 and both are different but great, and great value for money.

[@davidnicholson6680]

So the Corvette does not offer those things? And you know this because....?

[@techspec1803]

I have had a lot of super cars and have never purchased a Porsche because the interiors are a super basic and very bland, when you spend this type of money you need to tick all the boxes, it’s not all about power / performance. I have just ordered a C8 because it actually dose tick every box, even the most important one value for money. Also let’s not be fooled every high end super car dose come with problems I don’t call that value for money, if you have ever had to buy parts for a super car they are super expensive, to remove and replace the clutch in my gallardo basically cost the price of a new small car, my Audi R8 magnetic ride suspension failed on the front it cost me $3,800 per side plus fitting, some one stole my AMG gts badge $290 to replace almost at $100 per letter. Then you have the over inflated service costs $950 for a basic oil change. I think the C8 will cover every one of these issues and be reasonable to own. ✌🏼😃

[@skillfulgoose101]

@@techspec1803 you can put w.e you want on that thing, it's still just a Corvette.. I hear practically everytime and idk why people say that, "oh look at that car... oh nvm it's a vette." It tries too hard to look a ferrari, people just prefer to see a ferrari. Idk maybe change the color, stick with race yellow or something cause red doesnt suit it. Also 911's laugh at snowstorms . You cant pool Porsche with the rest of the sports car brands, unless you dont know what you're talking about. Do you even know the level of care and engineering that goes into making just 1 Porsche?? You sound like a kid just trying to feel better about his purchase by talking down the alternatives, it's sad and we dont care about your budget Ferrari.

[@mt5381]

911 992 has poor materials. Also c8 is way more comfortable and quiet. 911 is overpriced

[@mannygarcia1810]

That uneven stitch on the Corvette passenger side drives me nuts.

[@drewmorg.]

Yeah that was horrible!

[@hue008x]

I thought I was the only one who noticed it. And shortly after he pays it half a compliment.

[@Adrian27tent]

glad to see I'm not the only one

[@yodaddamilkman8422]

And the driver will never see it

[@hue008x]

@@yodaddamilkman8422 Every time he cleans his car he will see it. And any alert passengers will will probably point it out.

[@jasons2562]

Just wait, the Z06 is still coming.

[@steviedee71]

Just wait the GT3 RS is coming

[@detomaso_6235]

@@steviedee71 A GT3 RS is a fantastic car, but it will be much, MUCH more expensive than the upcoming Z06. I'll gladly take either, but can only dream of affording the Corvette.

[@jasons2562]

@@steviedee71 The GT3 RS is probably my favorite car in the world outside hypercars but if this Z06 is an NA, FPC, and about 600 to 650 high revving horsepower then for the money is starts to become very attractive I would not see justification to pass on it to spend way more for the GT3 RS. This would be a money related decision too. If I was rich enough Id have to have both. :)

[@jeremyvillalpando9307]

@@steviedee71 just wait the zr1 will be next after the z06

[@aimxdy8680]

@@steviedee71 just wait the ZR1 is coming

[@Iwo26]

Corvette is simply more fun than Porsche. Starting Corvette in the morning will never get old. I’ve driven both and 911 feels to me like an improved GTI

[@johnholland5466]

British guys will never admit admit how good Corvettes are.

[@mcmc1863]

This one will, ive owned 3 and currently have two !

[@joshriddick9291]

This is because they are less of a bargain here than they are in the US, and are LHD only (soon not to be the case). If they were to be sold at US prices in RHD, they would sell loads

[@lensoprezole5322]

Matt : Ok there is no winner but, which car did you prefer driving and why ? Thank you 👍

[@PaulLukeBonenfant]

Chevy paid him too much for him to admit it was the 911

[@raymonds7492]

@@PaulLukeBonenfant Don't forget that not to many people are quick to criticize and NA v8 nowadays. especially in Europe.

[@PaulLukeBonenfant]

@@raymonds7492 I’ll give you that- the 992 sounds like a vacuum cleaner from the outside. My 996 blows any 992 away in sound

[@raymonds7492]

@@PaulLukeBonenfant oh i bet it does.

[@thegrmcrckr488]

@@PaulLukeBonenfant ....Yes your 996 blows

[@99unclebob]

great video ,everybody here stitch picking apart a car they don't own or will ever afford, I driven and seen new Porsche's with paint and interior problems and this is Gm's first generation of the mid engine Corvette and has done quite well with it most people are pretty happy with them, Porsche has been at the mid engine game since the 50's and it has been pretty much hand built since the beginning and refined for countless generations and are still trying to downplay their IMS problem from 10 yrs ago and even lately in 2017/18 , so it is not without problems even though its refined and engineered to the crazy standards that no other company matches , so the Corvette is a great car for its first iteration of mid engine sports car 2 DR and decently priced. Happy new year to everyone

[@prathamkapoor1992]

02:30 that stitch misalignment on the dashboard would really bother my OCD (and my wallet!) after having spent so much money

[@rueben44]

Really because from the driver seat you wouldn't even see it. That bland cabin of the other car would bother me.

[@moneyparhar]

This guy complaining. He used to ride donkey back home

[@alfamonk]

@@moneyparhar and now even a $20K korean supermini has better interior quality. who's laughing now?

[@Rndmaniacs]

@Catholic Firefighter are you here to talk about cars or politics mate? I'm really confused with the mangle between warranty replacement and stop the steal...?

[@Rndmaniacs]

@Catholic Firefighter not at all, though I find things that don't go so well with automotive culture is people who pretend to be into it to spread other propaganda, and influence others. We can debate, American Muscle vs. European Finesse, that's about cars. If we bring race, politics and religion into it then, you're not a car guy, you're a bad actor, trying to create a set up like you are doing now. I only entertain you to educate the masses on what this really is...

[@lillyalriachy3357]

1:47 why couldn't they make the stitching on the dashboard meet properly with that on the center console?

[@weallfollowmanutd]

All these Corvettes have poor quality control. It's been rushed

[@bobbbobb4663]

GM isn’t known for their build quality.

[@bobbbobb4663]

@Ben Daulton Sorry you got triggered. Fun fact: I worked for a Tier 1 Automotive OEM supplying components to the GM E2XX platform. The DFMEA only required a listing of all passive electronic components -- no active components. Now guess why I don't own a GM vehicle.

[@nofront711]

2:00 That Stichting Line in the center doesn't match up even close with the line next to it. Sorry but this is terrible.

[@miklas.k]

Didnt Even See it at First but wow 😂

[@alfamonk]

that strip of hvac controls is mental, and not in a good way. wtf they thinking? Also 2:21 that yellow stitching lines up really well on the console. I dunno, Corvette used to have more rough n ready charm, now it's trying to be a ferrari and it doesn't cut it for me.

[@Chrisuperfly1]

A $60k Ferrari...

[@brois841]

Might not cut it for you and yet there are people paying over MSRP with reservations well over a year out. It's obviously not your cup of tea, but it's one of the few cars that tickles my fancy. Waiting for the Z06/ZR1/Zora variants.

[@alfamonk]

@@brois841 it seems to be very good, great reviews etc. i did prefer the long-hood FR layout though, and something about the rear-end doesn't fit for me.

[@danziger69]

In the USA, the Corvette is only 2/3 the price of a comparable 911 and it's no contest.

[@993mike]

The Z06 model in '21 will be a real interesting car, especially for what it will cost in the states - which should be about the same as a GT4. It should be a track beast without risking nearly as much cash as a European counterpart.

[@OrlandoPropertyAdvisor]

I agree and I am torn between ordering a Z06 (i'm currently pre-ordered and high up on a dealer list) vs. spec'ing out a new 992 Carrera S with the aero kit. Which would you go for?

[@KayJblue]

@@OrlandoPropertyAdvisor I don’t want to impact your decision as I have little sports car experience but I’d go for the Porsche, overall I don’t like comparing only performance for money I like looking build quality and interior.

[@bubbaboy3010]

@@OrlandoPropertyAdvisor 911 hands down!

[@zReaaCTioNz]

@@KayJblue then buy a S-class and don’t bother us sports car enthusiasts!!

[@aaronvector4750]

​@@KayJbluethe C8's and C7's build quality are on Porsche level. The C8 has a nice interior when it comes to asthetics

[@jo05dk]

I really don't like the back part of the Corvette. To me it's like the designers gave up the ghost when they finished the doors, and carried on backwards. ..but: Would i, for similar money, take a N/A V8 over a turbo boxer 6? All other things more or less equal: Hell yeah i would.

[@Dyltheboy]

Yeah, you got to understand that this is their first mid engine design.

[@Larkc-ty5sz]

the rear looks like a ikea table, just plain ugly

[@raymonds7492]

@Ben Daulton people hated the C7 design at first especially the rear.

[@disarchitected]

The MRSP is just under 60k USD. You have to add on all the taxes etc (UK cars have VAT included) so need to add round 10% more depending on the state. USA prices are all quoted tax and fee free because these vary by state. You can’t drive a Corvette off the forecourt anywhere for the MRSP.

[@disarchitected]

@Evo Shift Well OK, but you know what I mean. It’s hard to quote discounted prices on a video because these vary. But its inaccurate to say this is 60k car without mentioning additional taxes that need to go on top. No one would deduct VAT and other compulsory fees off the BMW M4 and claim that was a 60k car (list is 76k), even if it was technically possible to get one discounted for that price.

[@joetz1]

@@disarchitected our VAT in most states is around 6%. That’s a very small number of additional taxes

[@OrlandoPropertyAdvisor]

If the New Z06 is $100k with options and a 992 Carrera S is more like $130k with options, which one would you get? Intended use- sports car around town, cars & coffee, occasional track day. The flat plane crank of the C8 will sound amazing and be more exotic, but the new 992 is so refined... which would you choose and why?

[@craigthescott5074]

Hands down the Z06 the 911 is an old 50 plus year design that’s just flat ugly at any angle and it’s over priced. Corvette rules now.

[@Etruscan70]

Z06 easily , just the engine alone.

[@thegirthquake8574]

Autocar: This is actually a brilliant car, and despite the hilarious cost to import one, is still a great vehicle overall The entire fucking comment section: "ERMAGERD STITCHING IN ONE SPOT OF THE CAR! IT'S LITERALLY UNDRIVABLE!"

[@housepumpinpc3983]

Great, those suckers don't have to buy one. The list is long for those who do. I like my Porsche, but the design hasn't changed much in 60 years and counting.

[@davidnicholson6680]

This particular example seems to be Clive Sutton's press car that's making the rounds in the UK. The stitching issue is mentioned in comments incessantly in every other UK video about the C8. Guys: it's this one car.

[@thegirthquake8574]

@@davidnicholson6680 And honestly, if it wasn't this one car, it's still a single line on a side of the car you as the driver will never see. It doesn't affect the driving characteristics or mechanical operation of the car-- it's some fucking stitching. Some people need to get over themselves and their hate of american cars.

[@CHAPELQEYStv]

C8 vs 911, is a real thing now, going forward!

[@jamiljafri4841]

I really like the car reviews on here but I feel like there's a missed opportunity to put out video essays on other aspects in the industry. Would love to hear that from you guys

[@johnsumser9743]

That was a very nicely done review.

[@leobuckey]

0:58 “Things have moved on” More like their clients no longer exist.

[@flyingphoenix113]

The fact that the C7 had transverse leaf springs was a shame. The front-mid engine layout is far from dead as the GT500 and Mercedes AMG GT have proven. Heck, even the Alpha Chassis that underpins the Camaro is better. GM was just unwilling to invest the time/money into a proper double wishbone or even a decent multilink rear for the front-mid engined Vettes.

[@naseeb46]

@@flyingphoenix113 More truth has never been spoken. Don't get me wrong, I love the FR corvette and it is an great handling car too, but, with the wishbone or multi link could've made it even better handling car and it was always inferior to the other sports cars in the suspension department.

[@flyingphoenix113]

@@naseeb46, what's more, it would have solved the C7's notorious rear traction issues. The C7 ZR1 was such a disappointment because it couldn't use its prodigious power the vast majority of the time.

[@TheTmshuman]

Cross talk is quite unsettling on the street, but nearly non existent on a smooth track. There are also lots of coil over conversions on the market. Also the adjustability of the suspension in stock form is ridiculous. I can and have changed my ride hight, camber and toe in my driveway with nothing but wrenches (spanners) and washers. It wasn’t hard to level the car with my weight in the driver seat either.

[@whodat9198]

@@flyingphoenix113 This is nonsense. The notion GM wouldn't invest in a double wishbone setup yet retooled to make a completely new MR chassis which is faaaaaar more expensive tells you how totally ridiculous and illogical that statement is. FR is simply traction and physics limited. Simple as that. Ask any McLaren, Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo, Pagani, LMP1 or F1 car. If anything GM took too long to get to MR. Now did GM execute perfectly? Of course not, they are GM are do GM things which usually means dumb. For me this C8 is just the beginning and has lots of room to improve, but it's just the first entry level model with all season tires, hardly a Z06 or ZR1 edition. Also if anyone is somehow able to get one at the base price of $60k GM is probably losing around $10-$15k on each car which is why the avg purchase price ends up being around $75k

[@-DC-]

Rented one in the US it's an absolutely incredible package for what it costs nothing really comes close.

[@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics]

Cayman GT4 does, and also quicker on the track. :)

[@krocialblack]

@@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics Cayman GT4 is around 100k my guy... Come on, just let the Vette have it for once...

[@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics]

@@krocialblack Seriously, I just priced the 'Vette out and it's very similar to the GT4 - really it's not that different! But they're such different cars, I don't think they appeal to the same buyers, in truth. For myself, I just couldn't see myself getting the Vette, I'm not keen on either the exterior or interior, even though I admire the engineering.

[@squadmaster114]

@@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics no its not

[@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics]

@@squadmaster114 What's not what?

[@budtcheez]

Love how no one will pick one over the other. Price never equates into the selection or lap times or specs. Its all about the unquantifiable driving experience these critics don't know how to put into words. Just wish they'd come up with so.e side by side comparisons and let it rip.

[@almac9203]

Hardly anyone would choose the Corvette in the UK. It's expensive and the steering wheel is on the wrong side for UK roads. The resale value will also be terrible because one day there will be official cars coming over.

[@Jr_5646]

Price comes into the equation for 99.9% of the population. If it didn't, we'd all be driving Bugattis or Koenigseggs. Everyone wants to get the most car for their money. Now, not everyone's priorities will be the same, but the same rules apply. If you're a car guy that is looking for a new car around $60K in the US, there really isn't anything close to the C8.

[@raymonds7492]

@@almac9203 Would anyone buy the rhd official cars then?

[@almac9203]

@@raymonds7492 if they priced it competitively I am sure they would sell the offical cars. Brits don't get American cars too often so it would be considered exotic. It would have a certain novelty value kinda like Mustangs. They might even end up as collectors items when EVs take over in the next 5 years. They should produce it in RHD because they could sell it in the UK and Japan and Australia so it's not an insignificant market.

[@raymonds7492]

@@almac9203 I think there are people in the UK would just want to say they have a v8 as well.

[@S54VR6]

911 all day.

[@craigthescott5074]

Corvette all day. 911 is a tired old looking body style that’s been around for over 50 years.

[@MrMustangrick]

Corvette C8 for me. On the wait list at my dealer, $72,000 as built with options here in the states. A bargain!

[@bman99ss]

They're gonna sell it to you at window sticker?

[@MrMustangrick]

@@bman99ss Yes. Small town dealer. It has had deliveries at MSRP.

[@bman99ss]

@@MrMustangrick Having just sold my C7 after just one year of ownership, I'm tryna figure out what to get. I'd order a C8 for window sticker, but I don't know where to find a willing dealership . . .

[@craigthescott5074]

@@bman99ss shoulda kept the C7 I’m keeping my C7 Z06 manual and saving for the C8 Z06. Won’t get rid of my manual car tho.

[@jusrarsh4109]

*Basically the C8 is a BEAST, just less fancy then the 911.

[@kiyalami8478]

We are coming for Porsche's scalp. The Zee 51 is the "entry level" Vette. Wait till the Zee06, ZR1 and Zora come out. Murica, hell yeaaaah. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@DanLMH]

Deluded, yank interior design & quality will never match 🤣

[@RaGeAlucard]

@@DanLMH also the driving dynamics. and the DCT in the Vette is slower than some Torque converters out there

[@pokest225]

@Evo Shift man, importers are selling these corvettes in Europe for almost the same money as the 911. Talk about overpriced...

[@kiyalami8478]

@@DanLMH Stigma. I sold my 981 for a C7 (7MT + Z51) which is of lesser interior quality. But honestly I don't care a bit. When the V8 thrust kicks in and the screaming eagles coming out of its quad-exhausts reverberates off the walls, it puts a smile on my face that the Posch cannot get close to. And we are not talking C8 yet. Most reviewers are rating its interior fit and finish at par with Posch. 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

[@kiyalami8478]

@@RaGeAlucard The reviews, I've seen - including this one, puts its DCT at almost par. Remember, this is Corvette's first attempt at DCT. Porsche is already at their 3rd or 4th Gen. Just wait for the Z06 and see Porsche GTs running scared. 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

[@swanblake]

Damn so Clive Sutton makes $20k-$30k on the C8. Nice gig. I would go C8 because of the engine sound and the frumpy looking 911

[@MegaVinny73]

Based on the estimate £88,000 cost in this video, against the £129,000 cost on their website, that's a £41,000 / $55,000 margin.

[@elias8294]

@@MegaVinny73 half of the markup is taxes other, thank your government for that

[@andresguerin7162]

Stitching in central console is way off!!!

[@jonesjonz1]

Stitching is overrated it's just thread. Wouldn't keep any sane person from the purchase of a great car.

[@andresguerin7162]

@@jonesjonz1 if I buy an $80k car the minimum i'd expect is good build quality. That stitching doesn't belong even in a $10k versa!

[@jonesjonz1]

@@andresguerin7162 your not paying 80k for stitching your paying for a performance bargain. Go spend 250k if you want perfect stitching and great performance. A simple dark stitch would remedy the "eye sore" and look saved 170k hiding my offset thread problem.

[@andresguerin7162]

@@jonesjonz1 so you are saying it takes a 1/4 million dollars to get correct stitching???

[@jonesjonz1]

@@andresguerin7162 of course not, I'm say there is no reason to knit pick thread alignment when your getting one of the best performance deals on the planet fresh out of the box. Also I think that extra stitching is an option.

[@elias8294]

Europeans will never admit that America makes good cars.

[@monkeydui7241]

Must be afraid to

[@thomprd]

Having owned a Corvette and a 911, I can't imagine owning a Corvette again.

[@driverwolf4482]

This is a new car named corvette it shares nothing with the others so..

[@gaddyify]

@@driverwolf4482 They just don't get it despite after watching the positives in the video.

[@frankcastle1578]

Considering this a whole new generation built from scratch and you've never even drove it, a statement like that makes you sound really ignorant

[@chrisdow5206]

Bahha apparently you like Corvette taillights cause thats all you're seein

[@regulator601]

I guess it shows how little you know about the new C8.

[@derbigpr500]

If anyone cares about the performance of these... Motortrend lapped them around Laguna Seca and a base 911 Carrera S was 2.5 seconds per lap quicker than a Z51 C8, both on Michelin PS4's, so there's quite a gap. In fact, C8's performance on track was closer to that of a Cayenne Turbo S than it was to a 911. At the same time, the 911 is probably a far more refined car on the road, and without a doubt a higher quality car down to every last aspect of it, that will last longer and handle far more abuse, so I'd say the price gap is worth it.

[@housepumpinpc3983]

Really? I have a Porsche and a Vette. The Vette is easier and cheaper to maintain. Bet that tune-up in that Porsche 911 will cost the same as buying a beater car. Now mind you, Porsche has a wow factor. You pay for that. But a 911 in any form is ho hum. The design is pretty much the same since it's inception.

[@paulcfyeung]

1:48 the stitching on the centre console and the passenger glovebox cover is so misaligned it would've embarrassed a Dacia! How did that even get passed QA???

[@user-rx9ny4yo2e]

They are copiyng Tesla QA

[@brianculbert9236]

Agreed. Would drive me nuts

[@pete6705]

The 911 is more beautiful and luxurious, but the C8 seems like it has a higher fun factor than the Carerra

[@michaelcampbell6820]

As you mentioned, in the US, a C8 isn't priced against a 911, but closer to a Boxster. Hopefully 2021 will see the Bowling Green factory spin up to higher production levels. Covid has not been kind to production rates.

[@6ec6YRFPTcC]

The stitching doesn't seem to be a problem on the cars for sale in the US, this is probably a pre-production model.

[@rickintexas1584]

Here in the US the price for the Corvette is much more reasonable than the Porsche. For driving they are both spectacular. But the styling of the 2 is drastically different. The Corvette styling is stunning. The Porsche styling is timeless and classy. Both cars are fantastic. If money is no option then I would prefer a 911 Turbo. But if you are merely well off (not rich) then the Corvette is a fantastic purchase. I love both of these cars, but own neither 😀

[@craigthescott5074]

Na the 911 styling is old it’s 50 plus years old. It’s ugly and outdated. 911 is twice as much money for less performance. Corvette rules hands down.

[@michaelcarlsen3078]

@@craigthescott5074 like both but performance in straight line is just porsche handling don't even guess but mid engine could help

[@craigthescott5074]

@@michaelcarlsen3078 the C6,C7,in the Z06 will handle with the 911’s. The C8 Z51 will also. The C8 Z06 will be a game changer for the Euro cars. Corvette is not messing around with this generation.

[@FootToPedal]

Very good comparison this, big fan of the C8 Corvette I must say, seems like they've really got this chassis dialled in which is really rather impressive actually.

[@noseonscent1935]

Great vid review. Great points all round. Very balanced critique. Bravo

[@PaulLukeBonenfant]

All of the c8 owners I know have stressed that it is in no way in the same class as a 458, 488, so on... and these are people who own both.

[@ChevyCamaroIsBetter]

Well its a base vette so..

[@cm-15]

@Evo Shift if you think a C8 is in the same league as a 458, 488 or F8 then you’re delusional. Maybe a 2011 458 italia but that’s about it, at best.

[@sheneedsme]

@Evo Shift As someone whom has owned new Ferrari’s, Porsches and now a C8 convertible I have to agree with you. Not just the speed, sound and handling but the every day comfort and practicality.

[@elias8294]

Evo Shift nah man the Ferraris are still faster than the c8 stingray... but wait for the z06 and zr1 and it will be a different story 😈

[@sheneedsme]

@@elias8294 My C8 Convertible is faster than my Ferrari California T twin turbo charged V8 hardtop convertible. I think the 0-60 is the same as the 488.

[@xuimod]

Terrible comparison. He basically gives no comparison just saying the sports car scene is competitive. Wow thanks Sherlock.

[@jeffwisener1378]

I appreciate how so many point out the stitching isn't perfect but if anyone examed their lives would see much greater imperfections. People annoy me.

[@justinfabbott]

Well the review is on the corvette and not me so with that, the stitching does look like crap😬

[@bman99ss]

@@justinfabbott Lmao!

[@alfamonk]

whooaaa...meta

[@hacob2004]

It's pathetic quality control and shouldn't be brushed aside. If something so obvious to detect is done so poorly who knows what kind of problems will show up down the road.

[@whodat9198]

lol, this is the dumbest comment I've read today. thx for the laugh! 😂

[@clownworld-honk410]

Nice but a LHD sports car in the UK is like having your shoes on the wrong feet... imo

[@stringer-ik1pc]

Especially yank junk.

[@monkeydui7241]

@stringer 2295 Limeys gotta keep up with the rest of the world. RHD is ancient

[@Pedro_opc]

Was the corvette with track alignment?

[@austin_irabor]

What difference does that make in regards to this review?....he said he liked it.

[@kacey44]

Is this the "Aventurine Green" color in the Porsche?

[@thespectralsorrows]

Yes it is, and I'm not a big fan, too Gray for my tastes.

[@Jaahhhnnnn]

Man, the 911 video is so much quieter. No sonorous V-8 background noise. Strange, 911s normally aren't so quiet

[@CYMRU619]

The interior of the Corvette was surprisingly nice, APART from that ridiculous square steering wheel. What were they thinking?? Reminds me of an old Allegro.

[@thomprd]

The weird divider down the middle separating the driver and passenger is a non-starter for me.

[@KayJblue]

@@thomprd and the button line is also really weird for me personally.

[@raymonds7492]

Chevy calls it the shape a Squirkle

[@DwainDwight]

No point to buy a C8 unless you live stateside. My cousin bought one - all in (including taxes) US$96k

[@theilluminatedone9214]

This is true of every performance car. You may as well say there's no point in spending money to buy a car when you can take the public transportation instead.

[@Rndmaniacs]

What colour is the Porsche? It's beautiful.

[@michaelanderson4318]

Aventurine Green Metallic

[@Rndmaniacs]

@@michaelanderson4318 thank you kind sir 👍

[@XavierGoncalves89]

well the road noise is clearly more audible in the 911 than in the c8, talk about refinement lol

[@flyingphoenix113]

911 has always had terrible road noise levels, but things have definitely gotten worse with ultra-low profile tires.

[@detaart]

@@flyingphoenix113 I don't know if the standard 911 comes with runflats, but if it does, that is definitely a major contributor to road noise.

[@jupham4771]

I love numbers. So the 911 doesn't have to pay the VAT or import tax?

[@fettlemaster]

VAT yes, import tax no as it comes from Europe. Import tax may go away post Brexit but not looking likely given state of U.K. government finances. He doesn’t mention it as the quoted price of a 911 includes all of this, whereas the $60k figure being touted doesn’t.

[@raymonds7492]

@@fettlemaster 60k is the us price for a base model. European models get z51 standard last i checked.

[@СтепанГончаревич]

Which is quicker gt2rs, svj ,perfomante or pista on track?(from 4 to 1 please)

[@wpi6705]

1svj 2gt2rs

[@СтепанГончаревич]

@@wpi6705 did you watched the nurburgring only?

[@gaycha6589]

Depends who is driving

[@СтепанГончаревич]

@@gaycha6589 only for the cars themselves

[@Mockle07]

02.00 - all I could see was the hideous stitching at the dash/transmition tunnel meeting point! And this is while Mat’s telling us about improved American car interiors 😂

[@genericallyaccepted]

It is quite funny, the diversity of opinions on the interior. It looks good to me, of course I'm watching on my phone while driving... I need to see one in person

[@niklasbuchholz4175]

@@genericallyaccepted I don’t think he criticizes the whole interior just the horrible stitching

[@marfrandema1884]

First units got those stitching problems. Should be solved in the llatest cars

[@Mockle07]

@@genericallyaccepted Oh I actually don’t mind the design of it, it’s way better than most American car interiors, but you wait until you re watch on a bigger screen and see the quality issue I’m talking about haha

[@Mockle07]

@@marfrandema1884 Haha that old chestnut! I don’t understand how a car is in development for years then something as relatively simple is so badly done, on a car that’s given to the press! You won’t find many press cars with wonky trim from many other brands. (Aston Martin have been guilty of it also btw, so it’s certainly not an anti-American comment)

[@seymorebutts2478]

I think the Audi R8+ would be the best option at 130k. The Vette looks like something from Grand Theft Auto and all new 911s look like Beetles with the fat bulbous rear end.

[@cm-15]

@Evo Shift 142k for a 2021 Audi R8 new and and less than 130k from 2018 used is definitely not overpriced. And looks are subjective.

[@ConstantineJoseph]

Audi R8 didn't evolve much in design and is probably as fast as the corvette with the 0-60 timing. What I'd do is to wait for GM to officially bring in the C8. Quote pointless to pay 40k more to the private importer

[@TheKingkingg]

You've seen a lot of butts and maybe got gunbutt, R8 is not even as good as stable mate Porsche

[@craigthescott5074]

The C8 Z06 will blow the doors off the R8 when it comes out this year and for a lot less money.

[@eddieconroy212]

The new Vette is a good car by all accounts. However, I think the styling is awkward and it just doesn’t look right? The last generation (C7) looked the business and given the choice I would go with that.

[@jamesmclean5204]

No manual option for the c8???

[@gothops154]

Btw the $60,000 model is actually selling for $80,000 bc dealerships are marking them up

[@OrlandoPropertyAdvisor]

What do you think a new Z06 could "flip" for if you got one early? $30k more easily

[@craigthescott5074]

Even at 80K it’s a better deal than any ugly ass 911. Talk about outdated.

[@HindustanSujan]

Nice video bro and great and keep it up

[@stringer-ik1pc]

Bro.???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Idiot

[@pauleywallnutz9429]

Sounds like the UK needs a Boston Tax Party! Maniacal monarchies!

[@robinpratt1541]

If you were offered the choice and If your selection would be your only car for the next 12 months which would you choose?

[@RaGeAlucard]

911

[@flyingphoenix113]

C8. I don't like rear-engined driving dynamics though.

[@craigthescott5074]

Corvette hands down. I’d even take the C7 Z06 over the 911 it’s a 50 plus old design that’s butt ass ugly. Twice as expensive for less performance.

[@jamiep61]

I enjoyed watching the Video

[@matthewcurtis3759]

Chevy makes great race cars! That’s about all I can say about the Corvette

[@kevinbreese5739]

Because you obviously don't know much about the Corvette :) It's a wonderfully refined and very comfortable and very capable GT car, that is also surprisingly practical. It does it all, and at a great price point.

[@matthewcurtis3759]

@@kevinbreese5739 I agree that it is very capable and that it does a lot of things well for its price. But for as long as I've been an enthusiast, the Corvette has never captured my imagination. As a car, I know that the Corvette is great. But as an experience -- I'm just not interested.

[@Larkc-ty5sz]

theres just no chance ill take the c8 at that price

[@thegooddoctor6719]

Too Bad Dude - getting my C8 LT2 HTC next month at MSRP............. J/K - only about the "Too Bad Dude" comment - although the comment about getting the car next month at that price is spot on. lol

[@Michael_Lorenson]

The C8 is still a Corvette, which is uniquely American. The 911 is uniquely Porsche, and unmistakably German. In the US, 911s start at $100k. Starting at $60k, the Corvette is a very impressive achievement. BTW, previous Corvette composite / transverse leaf springs were very light, lowered the center of gravity, and contributed essentially NOTHING to un-sprung weight.

[@gaddyify]

That Corvette look far sexier than that VW Beetle.

[@Daumex]

Said literally no one ever...

[@craigthescott5074]

Yea said me. The 911 is a 50 plus year old design that’s butt ass ugly. It’s twice as much money and less performance. Even the C7 Corvette is better than the 911.

[@Daumex]

@@craigthescott5074 nice joke, lmao! 😂

[@jaytate491]

In the US the Vette is $60k starting. The base 911 is 50% more. Wait until the Z06 (because you don't say liszedzedard) comes around. That means $30,000 more for guns and ammo.

[@trdartz]

The misaligned stitching on the corvette seems to be a feature on all the demo cars ?

[@EK-rr2md]

It is a feature on nearly all C8s. It comes stock, lol.

[@ahmedadelsorour6407]

The corvette only has 98 miles on it which means it's in limp mode untill 500 miles so comparing it in its reduced power state to any other car is just stupid

[@martigrey5872]

So why not the Cayman GT4?

[@MathewBT81]

The alignment of that centre stitch on the Vett, tells me all I need to know on it's build quality.

[@Pandamasque]

Funny how in the era of free trade the price of a new car TRIPLES, as it's imported.

[@AM-uk7jv]

I'd take the 911, even in base form over a C8. But the C8 is one hell of a value for the money.

[@epi2045]

Having owned both Porsche and Corvette... including having the latest C8 in my garage. I prefer my Ferrari F430. It simply feels more special and sounds amazing.

[@josels1292]

STFU Kim Jong-un you should get on a bike and loose some pounds.

[@craigthescott5074]

Yea I prefer a Bugatti but let’s get serious.

[@mluckynikko77]

Can a normal auto enthusiast change all of the spark plugs in a Corvette or a Porsche 911?

[@2blkSSs]

For me the argument has always been that you can buy a car strictly on the noise haha ... people always fought me about the fiat 500 abarth, but man when you hear that little thing go. Entry level Porsche’s don’t have the character I want from a drivers car.

[@TheFreelanceCowboy]

What is a drivers car? And what character does the 911 have that you want different? Genuinely curious

[@WaveManMike]

If we’re talking about these specific trims then I’d go with the Corvette.

[@Boomboom-ox9hn]

GM needs to release if selling their car in europe.... quality craftsmanship build quality is a must have for euro market Misaligned stitching in cabin of c8 car just ain’t gonna cut it here in europe for the price they’re asking for C8.... The stitching misalignment in this c8 would drive me mad 😡

[@venom5809]

The Corvette is an excellent car for the money, seen many C8s now over the past year. I will agree though, like the C7, it seems the front and sides were designed by one person or team and then some drunk intern was given the task of designing the rear. LOL. At our American prices it's a good value, at your prices over there not so sure although I guess you could argue rarity and exclusivity make up for the extra costs and do make it worth it.

[@MrCTruck]

Looks like the rear end from a 2018 camaro

[@gaddyify]

The rear looks good, to each his own i guess????

[@whatiwant8898]

I completely disagree with the C7 rear looking bad. The C7 rear is gorgeous.

[@AdamDUrso]

@2.08 the stiching on the dash doesn't even vaguely line up! That is pretty poor.

[@Name-kd5jj]

Why not have both? I just have to rob a few banks first.............. for unrelated reasons.

[@christiantorres8858]

I would pick the 911 hands down

[@craigthescott5074]

911 is a 50 plus year old design that’s butt ass ugly and twice the cost of the Vette for less performance. Yea not me.

[@dufferdude1205]

I’ll bet you have driven the Porch a lot mod than the vet

[@jalenad11]

No one can ever make me understand why they got rid of the round taillights on the Corvette.

[@craigthescott5074]

Not having a manual transmission option bothers me more.

[@burakunlu150]

Editors company car 911... Wow