Porsche 911 GT3 RS vs Corvette Z06 | Too much for the road?

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@CARmagazineTV
@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
Which car gets your vote? For the written review, be sure to read the upcoming September issue of CAR magazine available in print, online and digital editions soon.
@fqeagles21
@fqeagles21 Жыл бұрын
I think Ferrari 296 GTB should give them a run for the money
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan Жыл бұрын
Some education: GT3 Touring = Z06 GT3 = Z06+Z07 Performance Pack GT3RS = ZR1 (coming soon) So, this review had the cards stacked against the Corvette right from the start.
@ssaini5028
@ssaini5028 Жыл бұрын
@@dash-ryan you are forgetting about the upcoming 992 GT2
@jmmch3358
@jmmch3358 Жыл бұрын
1.Porsche GT3RS 2. Corvette Z06 3. Porsche GT3/GT4RS
@VK6AB-
@VK6AB- Жыл бұрын
@@fqeagles21 Agreed I went for a 296 GTB over the 992 GT3 RS, I couldn't see any point upgrading from my 991.2 GT3 RS. I have also driven the 992 GT3 RS hard on track and fully logged it, whilst excellent it didn't blow me away anymore than my 991.2 GT3 RS, on slow and medium average speed tracks the difference is small - high average speed tracks like Spa or the ring you gain more benefit for sure. Probably the bigger issue for me was the engine and gear box didn't move the game on. Couldn't care less about the interior, adjustable damping in cab is great. And yet overall it didn't really move me - probably because the engine and gear box didn't really move the game on. I might take a look at the 992.2 RS, we'll see.
@terryforsythe8083
@terryforsythe8083 Жыл бұрын
First, the Z06 and GT3 target different buyer expectations, and I don't think there are many people cross shopping them. The GT3 wholly is track focused, whereas the Z06 is more of a balance between daily driving and track use , and only comes with a targa top or as a convertible. Does the GT3 even offer a targa top or convertible? (If so, I have not seen one). Second, the Z06 and GT3 are in completely different price categories. The base price of the Z06 is more in line with the Carrera. Considering price, and the fact that the Carrera is closer to the Z06 in daily driving comfort, that probably would be the better comparison. But, I can't recall the last time a car magazine compared a Corvette to another car in its price category - they almost always compare the Corvette to cars costing significantly more money (1.5X, 2X, 3X, etc.). The fact that car magazines cannot find an equivalently priced car that even comes close to the Corvette in daily driveability, performance, etc., that tells you which car really is the winner.
@adonislimes6156
@adonislimes6156 Жыл бұрын
Nobody is cross shopping a C8 Z06 and Carrera (theres the Z51 C8 for that). They serve different buyers markets. On a side note good luck getting a Z06 for anywhere close to MSRP. They are all going for $130k the second you tick any options box which puts them squarely in 911 GT3/Touring (not RS) price points to which many people are cross shopping them. The GT3 RS is obviously an outlier and theres nothing in the market that track focused short of a McLaren Senna so you can't objectively compare it to anything.
@terryforsythe8083
@terryforsythe8083 Жыл бұрын
@@adonislimes6156 There is a fallacy in your argument - Corvettes are not the only cars selling over MSRP. Markups on 911 GT3s are even higher than on Z06s, at least here in the U.S. Even used 2022 and 2023 GT3s are selling for almost $300k. Of course, you can get a Z06 for MSRP if you are patient enough to wait in the allocation line. The same probably can be said for the GT3. Moreover, most people have a budget when shopping for a new car, and do not significantly vary from that budget, certainly not enough to jump from the price of a Z06 to the price of a GT3. So, although few people may cross shop a Z06 with a Carrera, even fewer will cross shop a new Z06 with a new GT3.
@terryforsythe8083
@terryforsythe8083 Жыл бұрын
@@adonislimes6156 Also, very few people are cross shopping a Stingray with a Carrera for the same reason I noted in my previous reply. The MSRP for the base Carrera is nearly double that of the Stingray, and even a little higher than the MSRP of the Z06. Start adding in options to get a Stingray and Carerra comparably equipped, and the Carrera will be more than double the price of the Stingray. People rarely make that jump in price when buying a new car. The vast majority of people buying Carerras want a Porsche, and never give serious consideration to a Chevrolet in the first place.
@terryforsythe8083
@terryforsythe8083 Жыл бұрын
@@adonislimes6156 Lastly, since the question may come up, I did buy my C8 Stingray at MSRP and, yes, I did have to wait a while. The Bowling Green manufacturing plant now is at full production, so wait time on Stingrays is significantly shorter than when I purchased mine. It should get even shorter unless there is another strike by the United Auto Workers.
@Corvetteran88
@Corvetteran88 Жыл бұрын
I love that corvettes are always compared to much more expensive cars! The bang for the buck is what makes me love corvettes so much. I race a c5z06 that I payed $15,000 for and it is so satisfying to beat cars that cost 50-60k more.
@TheilliterateLibrarian
@TheilliterateLibrarian Жыл бұрын
GM engineers specifically spent a ton of time working on the exhaust itself to perfect the sound. It’s designed to be center exit. The side exit euro spec sounds nothing like the USA spec
@JeepCherokeeful
@JeepCherokeeful Жыл бұрын
Obviously they didn’t spend enough!
@TheilliterateLibrarian
@TheilliterateLibrarian Жыл бұрын
@@JeepCherokeeful yea not the euro one cause who cares about them. All about the USA baby!!! It sounds better than a 458 over here in the usa😎
@americanrroyalty
@americanrroyalty Жыл бұрын
@@JeepCherokeefulblame those communist in the EU
@NJ-jc9iq
@NJ-jc9iq Жыл бұрын
​@@JeepCherokeeful You can blame the stupid Euro emission regulations for that, this sounds like a completely different car in this video, plus lower HP on the euro spec.
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 3 ай бұрын
In Australia they say the z06 sounds like a Camry. Too bad Aussie government stinks
@Wallstreetavarice
@Wallstreetavarice Жыл бұрын
GT3 vs Z06 would be the fair test as those are the real rivals. The GT3 RS is a much more track oriented and expensive car than the Z06.
@jjoohhhnn
@jjoohhhnn Жыл бұрын
literally 2x the price of the Z06 even with the Z07 package.
@emj2068
@emj2068 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@bobhenry6159
@bobhenry6159 Жыл бұрын
European reviewers always do this. Afraid to compare Apples to Apples. Why? There are PLENTY of European sports cars in the 110K pound range, but they know the Vet would embarrass them, so they find a way out.
@markw9512
@markw9512 Жыл бұрын
Porsche started shipping this to the Z06 comparos after the normal GT3 lost to it at the track.
@coreyegan6751
@coreyegan6751 Жыл бұрын
​@@markw9512it lost by 1/10th in Savage geese video... With 150hp less... Hardly a loss
@Mr.Waffullz
@Mr.Waffullz Жыл бұрын
Sucks everyone else doesn't get the center open exhaust like we do. Hopefully the aftermarket can fix that across the pond 😉
@magistrate7009
@magistrate7009 Жыл бұрын
Yup, literally the only reason their version sounds like shit is because of compliance to euro laws. Watch speed phenoms first time drive in C8 Z06 to get an actual estimate of how the car sounds like, its glorious.
@Robocop4Ever
@Robocop4Ever Жыл бұрын
So funny how crazy the law and bureaucracy has gotten. No more center pipes, and it's too loud! Lol.
@Mr.Waffullz
@Mr.Waffullz Жыл бұрын
@@Robocop4Ever yeah I thought California had the most strict emissions, but Europe said hold my beer 🍺
@brandonchism6960
@brandonchism6960 Жыл бұрын
1 second ago thanks for writing this... I was over here like why is the exhaust on the outside and not in the middle.
@Mr.Waffullz
@Mr.Waffullz Жыл бұрын
@@brandonchism6960 yeah I think that slightly skewed his review of the Z06, because it sounds AMAZING unrestricted!
@SpencerMedia
@SpencerMedia Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind the euro spec Z06 seems to have a different exhaust than the US spec Z06 (It looks like the base C8 Exhaust). Didn’t find the sound the same at all in comparison to the US reviews.
@MikesLARE
@MikesLARE Жыл бұрын
I knew something was a bit off!
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 Жыл бұрын
The euro Z06 loses 40hp
@leemiddlekauff680
@leemiddlekauff680 3 ай бұрын
Wonder if he wasn't aware of the 4 driving modes and didnt discover the performance mode.
@uGotGot1618
@uGotGot1618 Жыл бұрын
Damn, those euro emissions rules really messed up the sound in the z06
@seattleblaze
@seattleblaze Жыл бұрын
Plus a reduced HP in the Euro Corvette model.
@yimpyoi9808
@yimpyoi9808 7 ай бұрын
and lower flow exhaust also means 40 less hp
@Wrigy3
@Wrigy3 Жыл бұрын
One small bit being forgotten here... Its that you cant get a GT3RS for under 350k USD...
@nuniday3675
@nuniday3675 Жыл бұрын
i just got one for 297k
@Epsonblade
@Epsonblade Жыл бұрын
Does that mean I can have a Z06 in two different colors in my garage. One for rain and one for shine...These can be picked up state side for around $125 with a few options.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 Жыл бұрын
@@Epsonblade No you can't. They are going for at or over $200k.
@Epsonblade
@Epsonblade Жыл бұрын
@@billymays7210 I don't pay dealer mark up, MY DAD OWNS 7 DEALERSHIPS IN FLORIDA... SO YEAH, YEAH I CAN.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 Жыл бұрын
@@Epsonblade 1) You said “these can be picked up for $125k” not “I can get these for MSRP because…” 2) HAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ MY DADDY OWNS DEALERSHIPS SO I CAN 😂😂😂 PRICELESS! Thank you for the meme! 3) My daddy can beat up your daddy! 😘😘😘
@Patrick-bu5vy
@Patrick-bu5vy Жыл бұрын
The Z06 is an absolute steal relative to the Porsche. It is a monster on track too - every inch a true rival for the mighty GT3RS. Well done GM for building a car that has become an instant legend.
@tecumseh4095
@tecumseh4095 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@lovelehstuff
@lovelehstuff Жыл бұрын
​@@tecumseh4095motorsport magazine confirm it's faster so no need to laugh
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 Жыл бұрын
A legend is not a ugly fat pig 3700lbs mid engine that we see everywhere! It's a american sports car. Let me choose every other mid engine than this design who was already old in 2020!
@tecumseh4095
@tecumseh4095 Жыл бұрын
@@philippeleblond9631 👏 👏
@aaronvector4750
@aaronvector4750 Жыл бұрын
@@philippeleblond9631 how many high revving naturally aspirated V8 cars are available today? Besides the Z06, I don't see anyone.
@relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980
@relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980 Жыл бұрын
Here in the states, Z06 Corvettes have a center-mounted exhaust. It's unfortunate that the cars produced for overseas markets have the same exhaust position as the Stingrays.
@realdeal7188
@realdeal7188 Жыл бұрын
Yea its due to euro decibal restrictions the exhaust had to be modified for export but still the Z06 is an amazing car to say the least.
@relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980
@relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980 Жыл бұрын
@@realdeal7188 I definitely agree 👍🏾
@nsu300zx
@nsu300zx Жыл бұрын
With that price difference, you can fix whatever is wrong with the Z06. I prefer the 'vette.
@papa_pt
@papa_pt Жыл бұрын
Also buy a second car lol
@davidnicholson6680
@davidnicholson6680 Жыл бұрын
Did I miss something or was the gigantic price difference between these two cars barely mentioned? Also, Z06 production is just ramping up and the car should be easier to get soon... but almost no one will ever be able to actually buy a GT3RS.
@bensam3136
@bensam3136 Жыл бұрын
literally bro and they always down play the z06 as if it’s not half the price and beats the porsches on tracks🤣🤣
@slats1987
@slats1987 Жыл бұрын
Price difference....with import costs to the UK they'd be a similar price and given this is a UK review...................the C8 is going for between £100k-£140k. Which converting us $120k-$160k US.
@Cane1992
@Cane1992 Жыл бұрын
​@@slats1987 The Porsche starts at $241,000 😮😮😮
@howarddavies136
@howarddavies136 Жыл бұрын
​@Cane1992 plus the cost for four other Porsches you'll have to buy first before you can get on the list!
@papa_pt
@papa_pt Жыл бұрын
well it's a euro review. That's why 😂
@300cmysrt8
@300cmysrt8 Жыл бұрын
Not sure why so many journalists complain about the steering wheel here but not others who did the same thing. La Ferrari has it. The new Ford GT has it. Nobody cared with those two. I've driven a C8 and the wheel is fine.
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan Жыл бұрын
The Corvette is an astonishing accomplishment to this day, because it's built by a mass production car company. Porsche is dedicated to building sports cars and couldn't pull this off without selling SUVs with VW money. For GM, a general-purpose car builder, to build a flat-plane V8 super car is as astounding as Honda building the NSX, and perhaps more so because GM has been doing it non-stop for 70 years! It's just as long a legacy as Porsche.
@rkoon57
@rkoon57 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree; well stated.
@TylerSmithMusic1
@TylerSmithMusic1 Жыл бұрын
And pay there workers criminal wages…
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan Жыл бұрын
@@TylerSmithMusic1 Although I understand, GM has been teetering on bankruptcy for decades now with government bail outs and such. Unless we all are willing to pay Porsche money for GM product, I'm not sure what the answer is.
@TylerSmithMusic1
@TylerSmithMusic1 Жыл бұрын
@@dash-ryan which were paid for by American tax dollars. We save the company, and get charged over price for every vehicle as they make record profits and stock buyback? Porsche is a specialty company I got that. But mass production is only impressive if you take out the fact that the people who create the vehicles you love, are worked like 2nd class citizens
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan Жыл бұрын
@@TylerSmithMusic1 Just wait until the market is flooded with inexpensive Chinese EVs. They will also turn huge profits because their employees are worked like 3rd class citizens, at best. My point is that although you make a good point and all employees should be given fair wages and good work conditions, how do compete in a global economy with product made for far less with cheap and inhuman labor? My only thought is for all people to change their buying habits in favor of supporting your local economy. Walmart is a perfect example of how people who don't like the way Walmart shuts down the local mom-and-pop operations when they show up, but is that Walmart's fault or the community's fault for not supporting local business? How do you convince people to take the higher road in their buying habits, when they themselves need a price break to survive? You're right, GM needs to treat it's employees better, but you also have a responsibility then to support GM with your buying dollars.
@TheStallion234
@TheStallion234 Жыл бұрын
I mean, to each his own, but I've heard that Z06 engine, and I frankly have no idea what he's talking about. This video did it no justice, but it sounds glorious. Also, didn't realize this immediately, but the entire exhaust setup in the euro-spec car is completely different than US Z06. In the States, the Z06 has 4 central exhaust tips. I wonder if that's due to European noise regulations, and if that's the case, what a shame.
@TheStallion234
@TheStallion234 Жыл бұрын
@ernestkeller186 Because a British reviewer will never give an American car the credit it deserves
@geoffclarke3796
@geoffclarke3796 Жыл бұрын
The GT3RS get my vote but the Z06 is a brilliant car too, probably the best car America has ever produced.
@YusufSayed-px2xy
@YusufSayed-px2xy Жыл бұрын
US made plenty of great cars other than the Z06 like the Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE, 2016 Dodge Viper ACR, 2020 Shelby GT509 carbon fiber track package, C7 ZR1, and 2022 Cadillac CT5 V blackwing.
@jjoohhhnn
@jjoohhhnn Жыл бұрын
@@YusufSayed-px2xy Don't forget the Ford GT, all 3 versions are trading pretty well.
@tracewaybos
@tracewaybos Жыл бұрын
Nope - that honor still belongs to the Plymouth Voyager with wood grain trim.
@norwegianblue2017
@norwegianblue2017 Жыл бұрын
Now remember that this will be the next to slowest C8 Corvette of the five trims that will eventually be made available. Just imagine this car with twin turbos around 1000hp, AWD, hybrid and more carbon fiber.
@MrRoyck10
@MrRoyck10 Жыл бұрын
@akhoustonyou listed all the American barges 😂
@ricardopralon4763
@ricardopralon4763 Жыл бұрын
It's very predicable that the much more expensive GT3 RS won the test, but I think it´s typically a conclusion of european biased and unfair test: first because based on price, the Z06 is also cheaper than the ordinary GT3 , the 911 that it should be compared, and in the pure performances the Z06 probably could humiliate both 911 GT3s in the most of numbers. In my opinion this Corvette CR8 Z06 is to European sports cars what the P-51 Mustang was to German fighters in the middle of last World War, a real paradigm breakdown. The P-51 had a american version of English Merlin engine , this Corvette a american copy of of a Ferrari engine. In general this GM's car has a superior engineering based on better fundamentals at a very competitive cost while the 911 is attached in its tradition and historical relevance in the sport cars world to justify its price. The fact that in the track, the Corvette Gt Am version have beaten 911 Gt am (RSR with a central engine) version so easily in the last Le Mans.
@jpslayermayor9293
@jpslayermayor9293 Жыл бұрын
And yet a raced prep version of this very car beat Porsche at Le Mans by a large margin. Euro reviewers twist themselves in knots attempting somehow detract from the car to the point where they contradict each other or test convertible version head to head with its lower spec tires, suspension tune, weight etc. If this exact car were somehow coming from a new Brit marque and priced the same as the old Euros it would be celebrated as a revelation and certainly win the comparison
@SmokDiplodoq
@SmokDiplodoq Жыл бұрын
I belive this is cynical from the so called press. That is because they seat neck deep in the ass of mighty makers like VAG striving for their ever recurring cars and events and advertising, while they gain nothing from erratic american performance cars presence and market share. @@jpslayermayor9293
@Stevensalcido
@Stevensalcido Жыл бұрын
​@@jpslayermayor9293the race-prepared version of the 911 crushed the Corvette 5 years in a row
@Stevensalcido
@Stevensalcido Жыл бұрын
It is not so difficult to accept that regardless of the price, the 911 gt3/rs was always superior to the z06 of each generation including this one, and well, the Corvette here in Europe and the rest of the world costs the same or more than a 911 and you talk about the Europeans are biased when literally all their magazines like motor trend or car and driver are completely biased with foreign cars or I remind you of the c7 zr1 beating the 911 gt2 in the vir when the 911 gt2 practically destroys the Corvette on any track in the rest of the world , or comparing the lap of the c8 z06 in the VIR with a professional driver against the lap of the 992 gt3 and an amateur driver, the numbers do not lie and the 911 was always superior and the only excuse they had was the price but now with the Corvette costing the same as a Porsche, they no longer have excuses and if we talk about lemans, the 911 crushed the Corvette in the last 5 years
@ricardopralon4763
@ricardopralon4763 Жыл бұрын
@@Stevensalcido Man you a masterpiece of Porsche fanboy ... The last five GT Am Pro victories in Le Mans before 2023 were 2 from Ferrari, 2 from Aston Martin ( the Brand that won more GT class races in Le Mans in this century) and only 1 from Porsche, and this year Corvette won very easily . By the way the last year that Porsche won (2020) there was no Corvette in the race neither CR8 or CR7 and the car Porsche uses in Le Mans is the RSR , a "especial" 911 with a CENTRAL ENGINE. No that car is not a real 911 with rear engine as RS GT3 or 911 R . Porsche RS GT2 was another model with turbos and it is no more in production and had almost twice the price of GT3 RS... CR8 is not the front engined CR7.... is a totally different car with CENTRAL ENGINE as RSR that Porsche use in competition ( Can you tell me why) . In fact it is a Ferrari copy with more cm3 in the engine. The trick that GT3 RS uses to be slight faster in track is its DRS, but its is only a aero trick copied from F1 that aftermarked tunners can adapt in any car and it can be very dangerous if used in the regular roads.
@camonly849
@camonly849 Жыл бұрын
Porsche is amazing, no doubt but I could never spend twice as much for 1 or 2 seconds slower on a track. You'll never notice.
@danziger69
@danziger69 Жыл бұрын
The Vette is better looking, sounds better even with the hokey Euro exhaust, performs just as well, is way more livable and half the price. You can keep the Porsche...
@user-nifinei34jd9
@user-nifinei34jd9 Жыл бұрын
Isnt GT3RS almost twice expensive than Z06? Actual cost not MSRP.
@jjoohhhnn
@jjoohhhnn Жыл бұрын
Yes, literally 2x the price, I think you can max out with options close to 400k before dealer markup, while the vette never even touches 190k before dealer mark up. Base z06 is 120kish, base GT3RS is 299,999.99.
@daniels3899
@daniels3899 Жыл бұрын
wish they did the quad center exhaust on the z06 in europe too. Also the car sounds more muted in Euro spec how sad
@Robocop4Ever
@Robocop4Ever Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing different regulations just to legalize it there? Sad they don't get the same car. Kinda reminds of 30 years ago, when they ruined Lambo's with EPA stuff just to be able to sell them in America.
@Petrol_and_Cabernet
@Petrol_and_Cabernet Жыл бұрын
Car Magazine has the most illogical pairings of cars and then makes the judgment based on random facts. There is no way that people are cross-shopping these two cars. First off, unless you have a garage full of Porsches, there is no way you can get in line to buy a new GT3 RS. Plus, let's load some luggage into each car. The GT3 RS is a track day monster, and the Z06 is simply not that.
@yagamikiralight8805
@yagamikiralight8805 Жыл бұрын
People might not cross shop them but both are track toys so....
@joe718gt4
@joe718gt4 Жыл бұрын
Z06 is a track car once you have the Z06 package, just not at the level the GT3 RS is. Edit: meant Z07
@CARmagazineTV
@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
One man’s illogical is another man’s thought-provoking! ;)
@yagamikiralight8805
@yagamikiralight8805 Жыл бұрын
@@CARmagazineTV Based
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 Жыл бұрын
​@@CARmagazineTV😂😂
@bumpinjeep
@bumpinjeep Жыл бұрын
ATTENTION The euro spec Z06 (with the side exhausts) have a significant power and even sound deficit compared to US spec cars. I would recommend driving a US model as you get an entirely different experience.
@Tavarish21
@Tavarish21 Жыл бұрын
The us spec with the center exhausts makes it a bit more unique.
@latroyrobinson
@latroyrobinson Жыл бұрын
If you're interested in seeing a real world head to head on track review, check out Savagegeese Z06 vs GT3 track test. Real race car driver supported by each manufacturer's support teams (test starts aprox 26min in / surprisingresult). Although that Porche is SWEET, for the money the Zo6 is an easy choice to make.
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 Жыл бұрын
Exactly Correct!!
@Extra-dg7uv
@Extra-dg7uv Жыл бұрын
That was the standard GT3. This is the RS. In Hagerty's test, the GT3 RS was faster than the Z06 around Willow Springs.
@_VelociDad
@_VelociDad Жыл бұрын
The C8Z06 with £90k in the trunk should help make your decision.
@scottfowler8558
@scottfowler8558 Жыл бұрын
The Z06 for Europe doesn't have the quad center exhaust??? That's too bad. ☹
@zTheBigFishz
@zTheBigFishz Жыл бұрын
This is a ridiculous comparison likely meant to minimize the Vette.
@zTheBigFishz
@zTheBigFishz Жыл бұрын
@ernestkeller186 GT3 vs Z06 is a natural comparo, US spec for both cars. Not the RS with as you mention EU spec.
@zTheBigFishz
@zTheBigFishz Жыл бұрын
@ernestkeller186 I'm agreeing with you...read my post again. GT3 vs Z06 in the US is fair. GT3RS vs Z06 in EU is not fair.
@zTheBigFishz
@zTheBigFishz Жыл бұрын
@ernestkeller186 no problemo
@dallasstang2818
@dallasstang2818 Жыл бұрын
I keep imagining Mr. Ed everytime this guy talks lol
@Leo_Vasileio
@Leo_Vasileio Жыл бұрын
British reviewers by default will downplay the flaws of Ferrari and other manufacturers like they don’t exist but when it comes to the Corvette they always point out flaws that they make seem to be complete deal breakers or not good enough. Very bias in my opinion.
@Leo_Vasileio
@Leo_Vasileio Жыл бұрын
@ernestkeller186 British car reviewers are becoming like business class reviewers, never mind all the effort and engineering that it takes to deliver the product because at the end it comes down to how dry the steak was. Absolutely silly
@coreyegan6751
@coreyegan6751 Жыл бұрын
It's literally a Chevy vs a porsche... you don't think the chevy will have a few more flaws and shortcomings 😂
@Leo_Vasileio
@Leo_Vasileio Жыл бұрын
@@coreyegan6751 same could be said about Ferrari and other European brands and all their flaws, crazy thing is that they don’t even bother fixing it or making improvements because of this type of bias and arrogance, but yet British reviewers seem to completely overlook that. No one said that the corvette was perfect but in terms of a sports car that has gotten a complete transformation through quite frankly brilliant engineering in the mist of intense regulations and industry trends, Chevy has done its job on the corvette and delivered with this one here. Let’s call a spade a spade and give credit where it’s rightfully due.
@enigmatwist6548
@enigmatwist6548 Жыл бұрын
He said both cars are “absolutely brilliant” what more praise do you want? I’m sure there are plenty of American reviewers that prefer the Porsche too, none of which is to say that the Corvette isn’t a great car.
@anthonydeas2173
@anthonydeas2173 Жыл бұрын
He's saying what he sees and experienced. Roads here in UK are pretty shitty most of the time and if the Porsche deals with them better than the Corvette that's his experience. If it was an American reviewer driving the same cars on American roads the result may have been different. He said both cars were excellent, but the 911 dealt with our roads better...
@diverxpl
@diverxpl Жыл бұрын
That corner exhaust in the euro-spec Z06 is really a shame because it loses all that character that you get from the center exit they spent a whole extra year developing during the pandemic. Honestly it really doesn't even sound close, so I'm wondering if the z06 was in the right exhaust mode. It's their first year and first generation trying all this out though, so I'm sure once the complaints start rolling in they'll hopefully make some improvements to the next generation (particularly with feedback from the wheel and pedals).
@mbukukanyau
@mbukukanyau Жыл бұрын
The EU is eating their bacon.
@billshoe22191
@billshoe22191 Жыл бұрын
Very curious how much sound the Z06 loses due to emission regulation (particulate filter) compared to the US version. Would have loved to hear more of the engine in the video
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 Жыл бұрын
It loses 40hp, and loses 18db
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 Жыл бұрын
@robertm.3520 they never care, they just want to give American cars their typical biased bullshit. Bet he failed to mention the fact that the euro spec Z06 also beat the GT3 RS at Magny Cours, a slow tight corner track with short straights designed to challenge braking and mechanical grip while benefitting high downforce cars on 4 turns, with a massive high speed corner that should give the GT3 RS a massive advantage over other cars since it's got nearly 900lbs more downforce than the Z06
@j7b890
@j7b890 Жыл бұрын
​@@saltyfloridaman7163magny cours CLUB has nothing to do with the gp track.... its a test circuit for driving classes. And the review was made by the magazine owner who is not a pro driver at all. Maybe the actual Magny Cours track laptimes with Conti the pro driver from the same magazine will follow but as of now those times have zero value. If you would eventually read the web page you would know that the magazine owner and driver by his own admission states he isnt interested in getting the best laptime but just to get a feel for the car. In Italy in Vairano the z06 with cup 2r lost against a standard gt3 and sorry but 4ruote isnt a german magazine.
@mattfrench884
@mattfrench884 Жыл бұрын
I’m always surprised when people talk negatively about the steering wheel on the Zeke Zo6 it’s identical to a laFerrari wheel 😮
@deek4412
@deek4412 Жыл бұрын
It was very amusing to see this guy struggle finding weak excuses to place the Porsche ahead of the Corvette....all any sensible person can say is at less than HALF the price...the Corvette is an unbelievable example of American ingenuity...kudos GM! Oh, and one more thing..put both on a race course and see what happens...ha ha ha
@unclebob4964
@unclebob4964 Жыл бұрын
Put them both on a race course and see what happens ? OK….. Let’s start with Le Mans…..Porsche has won it more times than ANY OTHER manufacturer on the PLANET !!! Chevrolet ISN’T EVEN IN THE TOP 12 !!! Ha Ha Ha yourself……BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA………
@deek4412
@deek4412 Жыл бұрын
Where is Porsche in Indy racing....Chevrolet has won it more than any other manufacturer on the planet...Porsche is no where to be found...can't cut it....ha ha ha ROFLMAO@@unclebob4964
@deek4412
@deek4412 Жыл бұрын
Yeah lets start with Le Mans...this year 8 Porsches competed against just one C8 Corvette and the Corvette took the checkered flag....8 to 1 still couldn't win...ha ha ha @@unclebob4964
@unclebob4964
@unclebob4964 Жыл бұрын
@@deek4412 You are kidding, of course ! ? Thought this was about real cars you can buy and drive. Send me a photo of your “Indy” car cruising down Main Street. If your really wanting to use such a moronic argument….ok. Honda and Ilmor Engineering make ENGINES for identical Indy car chassis. THATS IT. And even then, they struggle to run for 4 hours on an 4 turn circuit ! Porsche runs TWENTY FOUR (24) HOURS on an actual ROAD COURSE ! ( are you starting to catch on ? ) In the real world, Porsche has Chevrolet for breakfast……ha ha ha….KMBFAYSF.
@MitchellPhillips
@MitchellPhillips Жыл бұрын
I knew what the comments would be before I went to add my own. Most bias Z06 video yet. Not anywhere near a fair comparison due to price but the reviewer was also just generally unfair. That 5.5 V8 is amazing and hes complaining about it? I havent heard anyother reviewers complain about power delivery our sound. Only this propagandist. Guy is out to lunch.
@Bmontepeque11
@Bmontepeque11 Жыл бұрын
Well, yes, Porsche as we know is just mechanical perfection 🥰 but to be fair the Corvette is amazing for it's price! :)
@kleinbottled79
@kleinbottled79 Жыл бұрын
Fairly typical of a stock Corvette to be conservative in setup and alignment. I bet once the track guys start tuning these Z06's they will really come alive. (Not to say I'm assuming it will suddenly be better than the RS, I'm not.
@juliusten6225
@juliusten6225 Жыл бұрын
I take the Corvette between the two of them. No question.
@minigiant8998
@minigiant8998 Жыл бұрын
@@juliusten6225 ewww
@MrSchn3ll
@MrSchn3ll Жыл бұрын
Only one of them will be a classic and sold above sticker price potentially for 20+ years. The other is going to be $70k someday and will be modded with Pep Boys junk. Tough call...
@papa_pt
@papa_pt Жыл бұрын
​@@MrSchn3llsure thing dummie. Yes sir move on, nothing special about this Z06 engine 😂
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 Жыл бұрын
Claims Porsche has the best engine, *forgets the Z06 has the worlds most powerful and most responsive naturally aspirated V8*
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill Жыл бұрын
Lol they have to a qualify that as “v8”. No Supercar manufacturer makes a na v8 anymore and no the corvette does not have the highest horsepower per liter of any NA production engine,,, not close
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 Жыл бұрын
​@wethomas3 Clearly said V8. Thats the record. Dont be biased
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill Жыл бұрын
@@WindyCity1992 my point is it’s hardly a record. Not one high end car manufacturer makes a NA v8. Not Porsche, not Ferrari, not Lamborghini, not bmw, not Audi, not Mercedes. The only ones are toyota, Dodge, Chevy, and ford. So lol it’s not impressive!
@brianhimmelman420
@brianhimmelman420 Жыл бұрын
hee haw
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 Жыл бұрын
​@wethomas3 Doesnt matter who does what When it was being done nobody Questioned the competition did they?? Yall aren't good at hiding the bias lol
@abcdLeeXY
@abcdLeeXY Жыл бұрын
Meant for the race track but most will babysit in the garage or drive it to tea parties
@KD-cx6yi
@KD-cx6yi Жыл бұрын
In what world are these two cars cost comparable? I just went on Autotrader and the GT3 RS is going for over $400 grand, and the ZO6 for less than $200K. Not only that, watch Harry's Garage review and you'll get an ASTONISHINGLY differently viewpoint of the GT3 on British roads. Hmmm, I wonder how there could be such a strong disparity in opinions?
@MegaChasevideos
@MegaChasevideos Жыл бұрын
Only reason the Z06 sounds bad is because it has a euro spec exhaust that ruins the sound. The US one is way louder
@davidsean290
@davidsean290 Жыл бұрын
Look I own a 992 Carrera T but to compare a Z06 to a GT3 RS and glaze over the price differences is ridiculous!
@BobGrosse
@BobGrosse Жыл бұрын
Not much of a test to determine a winner? Why not put them both on a track to see what they're really capable of, and you may have a different opinion!
@Extra-dg7uv
@Extra-dg7uv Жыл бұрын
The GT3 RS was faster around Willow Springs in Hagerty's test.
@maciejswiercz9737
@maciejswiercz9737 Жыл бұрын
I guess if they were comparing bargains the vette would be the winner . They’re comparing apples to oranges!!!
@justarandomcarguy
@justarandomcarguy Жыл бұрын
This is a very biased video. GT3RS costs over twice as much as the Z06. It has no frunk or trunk. It has a stiff ride that you will not be able enjoy driving around town. Does not have a targa roof. I am a bit puzzled. Its like taking ACR Viper Extreme and comparing it with 911 Carrera S. GT3RS does one thing only, Z06 does so many and of those many, it does tracking very well. Recent track comparison between GT3RS and Z06 was shockingly close. Check out Randy’s driving of both cars.
@mr.jawsome1234
@mr.jawsome1234 Жыл бұрын
This is a very biased comment, as the z06 is not a super car. Yet .. it’s a very overpriced American sports car. It’s not all that. It claims 0-60 in 2.6 seconds yet everyone I have seen launch it, even owners I know can only manage 3.4 seconds and higher, due to the wheels trying not to slip and manage all the power. My 2024 M3 CS will cook this thing.
@SRosen95
@SRosen95 Жыл бұрын
failing to mention that the gt3rs is almost twice the price feels like a slight misstep
@slats1987
@slats1987 Жыл бұрын
It's about the same price after import costs. The base c8 in the UK is going for between $120k-160k, plus everyone knows about the US and it's dealership "markup"
@mbukukanyau
@mbukukanyau Жыл бұрын
Always disappointed how European reviewers misunderstand the Corvette. The Z-06 is first and foremost a daily driver. It has all the creature comforts of your E Class. If Chevrolet Corvette were to make a track first, road car second, it would be a Z/28. Not even a ZR1 is a track car first.
@jerrybyrd6603
@jerrybyrd6603 Жыл бұрын
They never talk about the HUGE price difference
@wilmara24
@wilmara24 Жыл бұрын
because if they compare any european sports car for the same price the corvette will obliterate it and we can't have that can we *sarcasm. I've always felt like European auto journalists never give American cars a fair shake. This is the best performance car for the money since the nsx
@tecumseh4095
@tecumseh4095 Жыл бұрын
@@wilmara24Nope
@hasangenc2922
@hasangenc2922 Жыл бұрын
Well, sit in a 911 and sit in a Vette and you'll know where the price difference comes from.
@wilmara24
@wilmara24 Жыл бұрын
@@hasangenc2922 I don’t think you can used the old interior excuse anymore. You can argue that the interior layout is not your favorite but the 3lt package is very nice. What nobody ever talks about is how the corvette sound system absolutely smacks the gt3. Some may say that doesn’t matter but it matters to me when I’m doing long road trips.
@Stevensalcido
@Stevensalcido Жыл бұрын
well don't expect a Porsche and a Chevy to cost the same, also in the real world the Corvette is too expensive and I have seen that in some places it costs 350k
@efabiano82
@efabiano82 Жыл бұрын
MSRP base of C8 Z06 is $112k. Give me freaking break on this comparison. You ahould be comparing the base 911, which is 106k.
@beautyisontheinside
@beautyisontheinside Жыл бұрын
You don’t need a Porsche with racing aero to drive 60mph on a public road. It’s ridiculous that this guy thought he would notice a difference in settings at those speeds. He clearly wasn’t even close to the limit
@asphalthedgehog6580
@asphalthedgehog6580 Жыл бұрын
I was driving around in Wales last week, and it's clear: you really do not need more than 100HP in the whole of GB, crowded with more speed cameras than inhabitants.
@CARmagazineTV
@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
Might be worth rewatching! James said you won’t notice the difference at roads speeds…
@Robocop4Ever
@Robocop4Ever Жыл бұрын
@@asphalthedgehog6580 It's about the badge man! It's about looking cool! Lmao.
@Marvelous0071
@Marvelous0071 Жыл бұрын
Where was the Ford GT when people started talking about the greatest car to come out of America and then there is the ACR Viper... The Z06 is not the greatest American car. Its great value in performance
@JulianZwemer
@JulianZwemer Жыл бұрын
Porsche all day long 🥰🤗
@Cane1992
@Cane1992 Жыл бұрын
Over $100,000 more and quite similar to the millions of other 911s on the road. No thanks.
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 Жыл бұрын
@@Cane1992 How about your mass pruduction GM wanabe C8? 40000 unit per year, no thanks for a common failed design
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 Жыл бұрын
@@robertm.3520 Like Chris Harris said, when youre inside the C8, at least you dont see the exterior of the car lolol! They are plenty of bright people who think the C8 is not pretty... Im not fanboy of anything but GM designers where unable to make a pretty mid engine! Take a look at the new Lotus Emira, she look so beautifull ...
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 Жыл бұрын
@@robertm.3520 Car and driver and Motortrend already told about the weirdo design, this is sad... Huracan 2015 are so beautifull and Aventador( 2012 car ), for a 2020 mid engine car, the Chevrolet is already getting old, sad story...
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 Жыл бұрын
@@robertm.3520 For your sake, I saw 4 Corvette this morning, 0 Porsche ( including all the Porsche brand )
@racereview1679
@racereview1679 Жыл бұрын
its funny when car journalists reveal the sticker prices of the cars without mentioning the actual dealer cost. Here in texas, a new Z06 is $270,000 and a gt3 rs is $600,000+ with dealer markup... making both of these cars absurd propositions. You could get a McLaren 765LT or GT2RS for the price of the new gt3RS, and a 991.2 gt3 rs for the price of the new z06..... The world is upside down rn.
@markw9512
@markw9512 Жыл бұрын
The C8 was selling for insane money when it first came out, but the nice thing is they come down over time as GM doesn’t limit production to a few hundred examples. Give it another 6-8 months.
@schwabit989
@schwabit989 Жыл бұрын
Price for price, the Corvette is hard to beat.
@leeward6762
@leeward6762 Жыл бұрын
The Z06 is so much more comfortable than the GT3 RS, it's not even close...the Porsche is much much more track focused, where it excels...anywhere else not so much...if you are considering a GT3 maybe consider something like an Ariel Atom and a "normal 911" for the same money...You will be far happier on the track and the road.
@loansbyderrick
@loansbyderrick Жыл бұрын
“An outstanding super car that goes way beyond anything that’s come out of the states before”… Second gen Ford GT/ Mkii enters the chat…
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 Жыл бұрын
The Z06 ate it alive at VIR Grand Course
@RH-xs8gz
@RH-xs8gz Жыл бұрын
Yeah. For 4X the cost of the Z06.
@jameswillard1
@jameswillard1 Жыл бұрын
Nice review guys!
@CARmagazineTV
@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gen1c8rs88
@gen1c8rs88 Жыл бұрын
@@CARmagazineTV Should have mentioned that the Z06 in Europe has a less communicative exhaust system, instead of stating the Z06's engine is to blame.
@anotae
@anotae Жыл бұрын
Gt3 RS? Not fair...
@moneyshift8190
@moneyshift8190 Жыл бұрын
Why compare the z06 to the GT3RS?! The GT4RS would have been a better comparo. Or the GT3.
@davlphs
@davlphs Жыл бұрын
Not one mention of price in this review. Maybe the Corvette is a little more expensive in Europe than the U.S., but I am fairly certain the GT3 is still at least 50,000 more.
@bench-squat-deadlift
@bench-squat-deadlift Жыл бұрын
He mentioned the prices said the gt3rs is 200,000pounds and corvette is 110,000pounds. But you can’t really even touch one for that price at the moment.
@ryanjefferson6100
@ryanjefferson6100 Жыл бұрын
it was mentioned bud
@Nord_Mann
@Nord_Mann Жыл бұрын
@ernestkeller186what, do you think he should test an illegal version of the car on UK roads? Apples for apples. This Porsche is also neutered compared to it’s predecessor
@Cane1992
@Cane1992 Жыл бұрын
Here in the States about a $100,000 difference. 😮
@jesseteague2975
@jesseteague2975 Жыл бұрын
The zr1 is coming its been a supercar
@nick.i.am97
@nick.i.am97 Жыл бұрын
CHEVROLET CORVETTE C8 Z06
@joetacchino4470
@joetacchino4470 Жыл бұрын
Why does this Z06 car have corner exit exhausts? OPF’s make it necessary?
@tomhatch2011
@tomhatch2011 Жыл бұрын
The Corvette's design is looking good!
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 Жыл бұрын
No!
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 Жыл бұрын
@@robertm.3520 I don't care about Porsche, the C8 is not pretty, that's it that's all! The C8 is like an ugly fat girl ( 3700-3800lbs for a mid engine in 2020 is unacceptable ) who is good in bed!
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 Жыл бұрын
@@robertm.3520 Do you know Shmee? Again he told about the new Lotus Emira that this car look like a 250K pounds for a 80K pounds car, we will never hear that for the Corvette C8...
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 Жыл бұрын
@@robertm.3520 Corvette fanboys and delusional owners doesn't know anymore what is a beautifull car ( give me a C7 or C6 please )!
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 Жыл бұрын
@@robertm.3520 C6Z06 for life! ( LS7 )
@razrramon2256
@razrramon2256 Жыл бұрын
Them toggles on the steering like tryna change traction and brake balance on gran truismo 7 MID LAP And CRASH
@shawnhossini3321
@shawnhossini3321 Жыл бұрын
Lost all credibility when you are nitpicking at the Corvette's turn stalks (they're actually not cheap feeling) and failed to point out the cheap touches on the 911's interior and all its blandness! And the GT3's are jittery over road imperfection while the Corvette's are more refined over the same surfaces. That said, the GT3RS is going to be a touch faster on the track than the Z06 mainly due to all its aero and downforce. Both cars are absolute track beasts! The Corvette goes about it in a more refined way.
@CARmagazineTV
@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
We stand by it - the indicator and wiper stalks are shocking! 😬😬
@shawnhossini3321
@shawnhossini3321 Жыл бұрын
@@CARmagazineTV Sure, double down on your exaggeration LOL. Since you're so honest and stand by your words, please point out the cheap touches in the 911. Especially given its price points.
@shawnhossini3321
@shawnhossini3321 Жыл бұрын
@@robertm.3520 Exactly!
@hasangenc2922
@hasangenc2922 Жыл бұрын
So many triggered Americans here. They never catch the 911 😂
@shawnhossini3321
@shawnhossini3321 Жыл бұрын
@@hasangenc2922 Hahaha, not American nor triggered. I'd say 80% of my cars have been German but I am not some delusional Porsche Fanboy that can't point out the cars flaws.
@badjer1983
@badjer1983 3 ай бұрын
Come to the USA and experience the American Icon without all the Euro "add ons" to crap it up. LOL
@Kirkorr123
@Kirkorr123 Жыл бұрын
Has this guy ever heard of the Ford GT. I lost respect for him when he said that the US had never made a car like the zo6 before.
@emj2068
@emj2068 Жыл бұрын
Vette all day, especially for the price. Thank you Chevy for making other brands step their game up and offer better performance for the money.
@2020matrix8
@2020matrix8 Жыл бұрын
First of all that Z06 your driving is inferior to the ones we drive over here lol….Second its obvious you know nothing about Corvettes or Z06’s. As for the steering wheel, it is the best thing about the interior except for the Competition Seats.. Second, The button layout is very intuitive and cockpit like and nothing feels cheap. Hopefully you will get your hands on the one made for the US with the center exhaust and the extra horsepower. Seems like the sound has been compromised too accommodate that corner exit exhaust, sad. :(
@cobrajeff96
@cobrajeff96 Жыл бұрын
Its dangerous to drive on the wrong side of the road.
@SirReddit18
@SirReddit18 Жыл бұрын
The US spec exhaust changes the Z06 completely😭😭
@seattleblaze
@seattleblaze Жыл бұрын
Not truely objective rating. Stick an Americaan driver at the wheel and the obvious bias would go away. He clearly went into this comparison with personal preconceptions and it was quite obvious.
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think changing exhausts would have made such a stark degradation to the sound, but that's awful. I was expecting it to not be as good, but not shockingly worse. GM direly need to address this issue for their export cars as with the power being down.
@raymonds7492
@raymonds7492 Жыл бұрын
still sounds better than any turbo 6 though
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj Жыл бұрын
The Corvette equivalent of the GT3 RS is the C8.R, not the Z06.
@adamb3129
@adamb3129 Жыл бұрын
The C8.R is not a production/road car, and also would be much, much faster than both a Z06 or GT3RS
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj Жыл бұрын
@@adamb3129 But GT3 RS is a race car for the streets. Z06 is not a race car. A proper comparison to the Z06 would be the regular GT3.
@adamb3129
@adamb3129 Жыл бұрын
@@KP-xi4bj The GT3RS is still not comparable at all to a C8.R, which is an actual racecar.
@jjoohhhnn
@jjoohhhnn Жыл бұрын
It's comparable to the z8 ZR1 that's coming out in the near future, the Z06 competes with the GT3 not the GT3RS. Porsche doesn't even categorize them together.
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj Жыл бұрын
@@adamb3129 You're missing the point. GT3 RS is not comparable to a Z06.
@N4CR
@N4CR Жыл бұрын
Wider tyres track more on the road, like motorbikes, that happens in any car with wide wheels.
@jmmch3358
@jmmch3358 Жыл бұрын
Its a very stereotyped review like the ones from Jeremy Clarkson.
@Sideways_Singh
@Sideways_Singh Жыл бұрын
i was super excited then i seen the rs letters and was slightly less excited, people who buy the this rs are 90% just show offs who dont know anything about cars or driving n just go with the hype, or people obsessed with lap times n forget to enjoy driving, but then so are most gt3 owners 😂, the gt3 is the fun n sexy one, n the real competitor to the z06
@nassermohd2317
@nassermohd2317 Жыл бұрын
wait till zr1 come
@mellowsid1928
@mellowsid1928 Жыл бұрын
This Z06 doesn't have the actual center exit US exhaust. THAT exhaust sounds like it was meant for the gods. THIS exhaust sounds like it belongs in the garbage. Watch other center exhaust Z06 videos and judge those for sound. Also, if this Z06 was under 500 miles it was probably in break in mode which makes it limited and slow. To me it never sounds like he gets it up past 6k rpm. After 500 miles it has a very linear power curve where as most flat plane crank engines make all their torque up high in the rpm range. He also should have talked about the driving modes. If he didn't have the Z06 in track mode then it also isn't a fair comparison. But still, the GT3 still would beat the Z06 on the track most of the time but it is pretty much only because of the weight difference, slightly stiffer suspension, and more down force. The Z06 would probably only win the 0-60mph race. But he is correct that as a street car the Z06 wins because it has way better ride height, more comfortable and adjustable/adapting magnetic suspension, way more features, a more plush interior, and better seats. It is probably a good idea to swap out those carbon wheels for steel on the street though. It is also hard not justify getting a Z06 because it is at least 50k less depending where you are in the world. If you wanted to spec a GT3 with some of the same features the Z06 has as standard it would add so much more money. Porsche likes to make options cost 3 to 4 times as much as Chevrolet.
@spaceweasel
@spaceweasel Жыл бұрын
Snotty Euros!
@mattfrench884
@mattfrench884 Жыл бұрын
Great SCENERIES and great video. I’m not sure what mode your in,but the exhaust sounds like it’s in tour mode. Really quite! I’ve watched about every C8 Z06 video out there. And I’ve owned my own for 3 months now. And it’s way louder in the cockpit then it sounds here. And out side as well. Cheers
@mojojojo_BB
@mojojojo_BB Жыл бұрын
Great job comparing cars that are neither in the same category nor price range! 🙄
@Ghanshyam00000
@Ghanshyam00000 Жыл бұрын
Chevrolet Corvette z06 and porch 911 gt3 these both cars are beautiful
@rcrr
@rcrr Жыл бұрын
With ADM, the Porsche costs as much as 3 or 4 of those Corvettes
@cylentone
@cylentone Жыл бұрын
The GT3 RS is a pure track car, the Z06 an all-rounder. Nice surrounding to review them both, but impossible to compare. Maybe a "normal" GT3 would have been the better choice in characteristics, not necessarily price-wise. If the focus is on winding country roads, maybe even the GT3 Touring.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 Жыл бұрын
Well said. Unlike most of the fanboyz commenting from both sides.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 Жыл бұрын
@@brianhimmelman420 AWD turbo with a back seat… you’re gonna get a TON of views with that video 😂
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 Жыл бұрын
@@brianhimmelman420 Um, I didn’t…. I was agreeing with the OP, ya know, the one you replied to? 😂 And that’s the best Chevy could do with their steering and an NA motor… the ZR1 will be faster, but will probably be even more “numb” once they bolt on the turbos… that’s why people pay more $ for a Porsche, the way it feels vs the raw numbers. Are you being sarcastic comparing a turbo AWD sporty GT with a back seat to an NA 2 seat 2WD sports car “tuned for the track”?
@EdwinNew
@EdwinNew Жыл бұрын
Surprise, surprise. The £200,000+ Porsche is better than the £110,000 Corvette. If you spent the price difference on performance upgrades for the Corvette, what would be the result then?
@Stevensalcido
@Stevensalcido Жыл бұрын
that's ridiculous because it applies to any car, you can buy a cayman gts for £65,000 and with some upgrades easily beat the corvette
@EdwinNew
@EdwinNew Жыл бұрын
@@Stevensalcido My point exactly.
@zangli4525
@zangli4525 Жыл бұрын
Z06 should be compared to GT3: they are road cars that can be taken to the tracks on weekends... GT3-RS is a race car that can be driven on the roads, so it's not in the same league, not to mention the huge price for the RS.
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan Жыл бұрын
Some education: GT3 Touring = Z06 GT3 = Z06+Z07 Performance Pack GT3RS = ZR1 (coming soon) So, this review had the cards stacked against the Corvette right from the start.
@rohanvirdee8917
@rohanvirdee8917 Жыл бұрын
What would the future gt2 rs compare to?
@philsalley3278
@philsalley3278 Жыл бұрын
The Zora would anilate this Porsche.
@eckosimmons
@eckosimmons Жыл бұрын
That man said the Z06 sound is “not memorable” 😂 like he doesn’t know it has basic stingray exhaust.
@markoon139
@markoon139 Жыл бұрын
Another European picking a Porsche thats twice as expensive over American. Lost all credibility when you said the flat six was the best engine of the past decade. Swap brand logos and 99% of people are taking the 5.5 liter V8... Come on now.....
@CARmagazineTV
@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
It’s a very good engine in the Corvette, but the Porsche’s flat six is still superior by a solid margin.
@markoon139
@markoon139 Жыл бұрын
@@CARmagazineTV Less horsepower by a lot and sounds like a sewing machine unless you wind it to 9000.... But I get it. All the European guys have to hate American cars because that's the culture event though there's no reason the flat 6 is objectively "better"
@CARmagazineTV
@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
It’s all subjective, of course. And Corvette has done a great job with the engine. But for us, and most impartial judges, the Porsche’s engine is superior.
@markoon139
@markoon139 Жыл бұрын
@@CARmagazineTV So slower and less HP and more expensive makes it superior hahaha okay.
@gen1c8rs88
@gen1c8rs88 Жыл бұрын
@@CARmagazineTV I can say that I wished the C8 Z06 coupe with the Z07 package without the carbon fiber wheels had better steering and brake feel, had a fixed roof(reduced weight and aesthetics), seats that hold you in more securely, weigh 1600kg(3520lbs) given it's based on a 70K C8(I would add 10K to the base price for fundamental improvements prior to C8 production), 425kg(937lbs, instead of 734lbs, 1/4 of total weight with additional wieght of driver,etc) of downforce, 60% stiffer suspension instead of 40%, 285/35r19 on 10.5's and 345/30r20 on 13's with 395mm front brake, 5.6L(115mm bore spacing 105mm bore, 80.8mm stroke), 9000rpm limit(GM engineers said a few hundred more rpms) , 700HP(650Nm) and for 180K(130K base price). But to the engines sound: so do you prefer the N/A flat-6 sound to the N/A FPC V8 sound or is it the Euro spec Z06 exhaust, even the US spec exhuast as well, is their a OEM N/A FPC V8 in a OEM car that is at least on equal footing with the OEM 992.1 GT3 RS ? Also if the Z06 with Z07 package had a little more engine feel/expression though the chassis would that make the Z06 with the Z07 package more interesting too ? Is a 4/4.2L flat-6 more rewarding on a public road because a 5.5/5.6L V8 with 636 to 700 HP can't be fully used/expressed on public narrow twisty roads ? The Export Z06 has 636HP or 645PS not 670HP/680PS.
@Brooks22n
@Brooks22n Жыл бұрын
Jeez Are those roads NARROW ENOUGH 😂
@N4CR
@N4CR Жыл бұрын
Normal in small, hilly and rural countries like this.
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 Жыл бұрын
No apologies here folks because the Z06 is neck and neck with a GT3RS on most any track, and simply blows it away on the road. The track data is there as well as road reviews. The GT3RS is a HARSH road car, and this is one of few if any reviews that says its comfortable over undulations. The Z06 has MAG RIDE dampers that are simply the BEST this industry has to offer, and the computer sorts out all that unnecessary fiddling with controls. This is a OPF filtered car if you cannot figure out why the reviewer says its quite. GM Y chassis cars in the C8 series are destroying carbon tub cars for handling, and Porsche has no answer. Porsche dropped out of American GTLM class after the introduction of the C8 race car for a reason. British people HATE American cars for giving the public everything for a great price, and it has to stop.
@CARmagazineTV
@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
Interesting take!
@emj2068
@emj2068 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Clear bias against American cars by British reviewers. Give them a car that beats GT Porsches on track, for half the price, and they'll still whine and niggle about subjective nonsense.👎 As if this dude has even half the skill to exploit the performance potential of either car... where the stuff he mentions would actually come into play.
@j7b890
@j7b890 Жыл бұрын
get a good pair of glasses... porsche left because they were penalised to the point of being off the pace by miles. Same stuff that they do with Ferrari... you just need to read the bop changes prior to 80% of the races to see how porsche and ferrari always get the short end of the stick. Imsa is an american racing compeition which has shown numerous times to favour american cars. From the handicaps given back then to the mc12 which would have slaughtered c6rs, to the introduction against the rules of the ford gt, to the constant bop help given to the c8. I ll add btw that top spec supercars dont use magneride but often multimatic. And magneride hasnt been american for ages.... U are a master of deception...
@mayhem88
@mayhem88 4 ай бұрын
They had to copy the 458 engine to even compete
@nickhall3000
@nickhall3000 Жыл бұрын
What road was this filmed on please?
@Aceimus1066
@Aceimus1066 Жыл бұрын
Bwlch Mountain, Wales
@lukeywalsh
@lukeywalsh Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of UK car reviewers, but do they ever, EVER do apples to apples comparisons? - I acknowledge option costs differ. Dealer markup after promising MSRP to deposit holders is a major controversy. But the base MSRP differences are still quite stark. GT3RS $241K. GT3 $183K. Z06 $109K. - I hope the other Euro spec Z06s don't as placid as this car. I also think the Euro spec exhausts have a little less power.
@person1745
@person1745 Жыл бұрын
A lot of it goes to the brand for the pricing. You could drive the 3RS to a hotel and it will be treated in the same group as other exotics like a ferrari/ lambo. It’s priced like an exotic. The Z06 will just be seen as a sports car because of its brand.
@slats1987
@slats1987 Жыл бұрын
This is a UK review....... After import costs they'd be a similar price. The base c8 is $120k-160k on autotrader. Like you mention, msrp doesn't mean anything in the US either, it's famous for its dealer "markups"
@jorgejefferson8251
@jorgejefferson8251 Жыл бұрын
A fairer comparison would be a regular GT3. A C-8 Corvette ZL1 would be a comparison to the GT3 RS, but Chevy hasn't made it yet.
@jjoohhhnn
@jjoohhhnn Жыл бұрын
The Zr1 will be a competitor to the Porsche gt3rs and then Corvette is releasing a turbo S competitor with a hybrid system, similar to the holy Trinity of Yore.
@VK6AB-
@VK6AB- Жыл бұрын
This is a tricky one, as someone who owns a 991.2 GT3 RS, the new 992 GT3 and 992 GT3 RS didn't do it for me - the 991.2 GT3 RS is so good its quicker than the 992 GT3 and only marginally slower round a track than the 992 GT3 RS (so much so it comes down to the driver and type of tires each car is wearing - moreover, Randy Pobst was quicker round Big Willow in a 991.2 GT3 RS than in a 992 GT3 RS - thats how real world close they are). The engine and gear box are all variants of that found in the 991.2 GT3 and to be frank on public roads there isn't much to choose between the 991.2 GT3, 991.2 GT3 RS, 992 GT3, 992 GT3 RS or 718 GT4 RS. On to the Corvette, what GM did here with the C8 06-07 is remarkable, a credit to them for taking the risk and building it - no matter what the critics say its a stupendous car at an amazing price point in the US. Credit where credit is due. Would I take it over my 991.2 GT3 RS, no, but I fully acknowledge its capability and breadth of use. Now heres a thought, you can get more enjoyment out of a 3.4L NA 981 GTS with 340HP (and PTV) on B and C roads than you can with a super car or GT3 RS.
@btravassos1226
@btravassos1226 Жыл бұрын
I drive a race car with 3 way adjustable dampers and i feel like there’s no way you could tell the difference at the speeds you showed at 8:40 in this video. At the limit yes...... but at cruising speeds like this video...... seems unlikely
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 3 ай бұрын
He’s a mag writer armed with specifications, he’s not a race driver
@yo32ride
@yo32ride Жыл бұрын
0 to 100mph in 10.6😂😂 the gt3 is around 7 to 100 mph
@dr69296
@dr69296 Жыл бұрын
Z06/z07 package is 6.0 to 100 with out the z07 package is quicker. The z06 is a 10.30 to 10.50 1/4 at 132 mph. 10.6 to 100 is absolutely not true. That z06 will destroy the aGT3 in a straight line.
@yo32ride
@yo32ride Жыл бұрын
@@robertm.3520 why am I a clown
@yo32ride
@yo32ride Жыл бұрын
The figures were for the porsche the road tester said the gt3 does 0.100 in 10.6 hence the 🤣🤣
@yo32ride
@yo32ride Жыл бұрын
Both great cars but I'd prefer a gt2 rs over the gt3 rs 👍
@Nord_Mann
@Nord_Mann Жыл бұрын
Too much for the road? Yes they are. Both. At least the Corvette has a boot and can take the needed overnight luggage for you and your sweetheart.
@andresmattos7541
@andresmattos7541 Жыл бұрын
DECENTLY PRICED VS STUPIDLY OVERPRICED.
@chrlda6857
@chrlda6857 Жыл бұрын
Lol Americans complaining It's not oranges and apples Is full spec vs full spec It's not Porsche fault that the Z0Y uses cheaper materials
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