NEW DeWalt DCF860 DESTROYS Milwaukee Gen 4... Or Does it?

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Dewalt DCF860 VS DCF850 VS DCF887 kzbin.info/www/bejne/onrRh2N9p9aahJY

[@harisjaved1379]

We buy Milwaukee because it works good and I like the 5 year warranty, but I do like some dewalt tools! Dewalt makes some good miter saws. But honestly you cannot go wrong with Dewalt, Milwaukee or Makita. Buy whatever is on sale from these brands.

[@Felipe-fy4wz]

Ive a finish carpenter and i used to use cabled dewalts cause its comercial work but ive been using the battery Milwaukee miter saw its awesome it lasts all day making the same cuts i did with the electric dewalt

[@harisjaved1379]

@@Felipe-fy4wz yes I also have the m18 12 inch miter saw, but I am having some brake issues with mine. I picked up the dewalt corded saw and it has been amazing so far!

[@Felipe-fy4wz]

@@harisjaved1379 good to know hopefully i dont get that issue

[@JoseGarcia-bp2sr]

Bosch is good too

[@johnbrentford5513]

No one is making bad tools there is so much competition and profit margins are so thin you have to be competitive.

[@SB-dw6hz]

im glad dewalt has stepped up their game the past couple of years, especially since they are usually more competitively priced than the milwaukee.

[@The_Ballo]

@@haydenjohnson1520 That's what he said

[@user-do2yj5rr2k]

DeWalt has been top notch all along. Not sure what you mean by that

[@SB-dw6hz]

@@user-do2yj5rr2k top quality sure, but until recently they have been behind Milwaukee in both specs and offerings of more specialized tools.

[@Mcklusky12341]

The wind direction was affecting the Milwaukee!!😂

[@toolscientist]

Nah, it's coriolis effect. Milwaukee was optimised for Northern Hemisphere

[@darrenhenderson7076]

Right 👍 DeWalts been on roll these last two years putting the smack down in everything and when Milwaukee brought there new high torque DeWalt rained on there party with a impact wrench with turbo which dominated Milwaukee high torque

[@gf2e]

@@toolscientist Now I want to see people doing the same tests with left handed threads :)

[@plumcat4089]

😂😂😂

[@leonardpaciora5039]

LOL

[@-Gahala-]

At last! A non bias review on these two beasts! Waiting for this kind of review. Thank you!🙌

[@ProToolsApproved]

And that's with i'm in love with the Makita oil impulse driver. Being comfortable, ears not ringing, wrist not sore....that's the most important things to me at this age.

[@frenchyroastify]

You beat me to it. Be nice if Makita released a new one.

[@nominalvelocity]

I really like my Milwaukee Surge as well. I'd like to see more development in oil impulse drivers, not in speed or power necessarily, but in adaptability--like installation driver attachments, drywall attachments, right angle, stuff like that. I do not have to drive huge fasteners too often. It handles most everything else well enough.

[@mattfowler4042]

The oil is really good and I was set on buying one because I hated how loud impacts were. Just before buying I got to try the oil and the dtd171 side by side at a tool show and the 171 blew the oil out the water in every aspect. The 171 had so much power the anvil doesn't even engage so there is no noise unless you're doing big screws and by that point the oil just isn't man enough.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Stay tuned...

[@ns_racing]

@@nominalvelocity Dewalt has another impact driver coming the dcf870 it's hydraulic/oil impulse driven. Hope its good.

[@saiiiiiii1]

Did 10 self-tapping screws back 2 back into metal yesterday and the milwaukee was hot as hell already. 🤣 It's great that these things are getting stronger every year, too bad no manufacturer can beat physics so far.

[@alexmills1329]

That’s why I like the idea of Makita XGT, cut the amps in half to reduce that heat a bit for a given power. Also motors tend to run stronger, more efficiently, at higher voltages which is why electric cars are all 400-800v range. If we had micro sized cells with good energy density it would be awesome to crank up the voltage on these power tools, but I don’t think that day is coming this decade.

[@engineer_alv]

they're a drag racing machine, with poor heat dissipation thanks to the smaller footprint

[@ИгорьДемьяненко-ш2ж]

А я и не знал , что Милки греются так сильно... Кошмар!

[@gerbil7771]

At this point power barely matters because it just destroys the bits and fasteners you’re installing. Lighter and better user experience is what I’ve looking towards. I’ve got a few years old M18 brushless hex driver not sure which generation and the M12 surge has been able to fill its shoes just fine. That said desalt seems to be fibbing a bit.

[@ryu-ken]

That's what people with weak tools say to make themselves feel better 😊

[@gerbil7771]

@@ryu-kenMeh, I’ll just pull out my 1/2” high torque to show how I’m over compensating.

[@thorinbane]

Its why I like Makita just fine. Ergonomics over brute force for me.

[@engineer_alv]

@@gerbil7771 that's a good point. There are impact wrenches when there's need for more torque

[@2aenthusiastshallnotbeinfr273]

@gerbil7771, yes! That's correct! Look at my Flex 24V Quick Eject brushless impact driver. That tool destroyed and broken a lot of bits and fasteners instead of I can save money I keep spending cash for bits even the Makita XPS bits are getting destroyed. It's too much power and torque! So I ended up putting my Flex tools on display in my garage along with my reserve Makita LXT and XGT tools. That's why I only use Makita in my jobsite everyday. I'd rather go for Precision/Accuracy and Efficiency even my new Makita XGT 40v are well Precise no broken bits and broken fasteners job well done.

[@leaves2975]

Dewalt definitely looks a touch better. Very interesting to watch both tools stop halfway on some screws.

[@hochhaul]

Hitting knots and pushing the impact over its thermal limits from time to time.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

@hochhaul No knots.

[@jamesgoens3531]

Nice video and testing. Many manufacturers are really pushing numbers as this is easily seen by users and what many will die for. Honestly, in the real world it doesn’t matter if one driver is 1.5 seconds faster. Users don’t line up 15 fasteners in a row and blast down the line. You drive a fastener, reach over for the next one and set it up to drive. Drop a screw, oops, gotta pick it up. Stop to fart, ok. Feeling tired, gonna be a wee bit slower. Etc, etc. Drill pilot holes first, well then pretty much any test on KZbin is invalid as no one drills pilot hole first.

[@Whateva67]

True…..faaaarrrrttttttt…..sorry😂

[@KeijonAutoVuokra]

You should've tested driving 20 of those long screws in a row, if the Milwaukee is getting that hot one would think it's just gonna overheat after a bit

[@saiiiiiii1]

There's a korean test video on youtube where someone does, I think, 200 self-tapping screws in a single session measuring temperature every now and then. It did it, but you can cook on egg on it. And grease is probably everyhwere then except where it's supposed to be.

[@alouisschafer7212]

Isnt that the Milwaukee that has been blowing up its gearboxes on people a lot recently?

[@Smokeey409]

4 coworkers of mine have blown apart the plastic shell on their mykey 3/4 Milwaukee impact's. I've had that dcd967 for a year taking on and off 2 inch nuts at 600 ft lbs no problem.

[@robbie154]

Yep. KZbin loves to rave about them with these screw contests in garages, but using all day they break apart, and when they don’t they burn your hands.

[@SThom27]

Not the gearbox, but the planetary gears. TorqueTestChannel has a video on it. The bearings are made of too hard of a metal so they're brittle and break. The Milwaukee also has a problem with the motor quitting entirely, or not shutting off at all, or the lights staying on and killing the battery faster, or breaking the battery mount off just from the vibration.

[@ricksgiggle8852]

And thats why i just kept my gen 3. Its a beast. ​@@SThom27

[@charliesleeseman4643]

Theyre both good drills. Im a Dewalt guy though. I just got the 860 a few weeks ago and am absolutely loving it

[@user-do2yj5rr2k]

I have the old version of DeWalt and still love it. I recently bought my dad into Milwaukee and he loves his. Both are top notch brands.

[@jamesomara8036]

I literally searched for this video and dang, you just dropped it. Thank you.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

You're welcome.

[@keysautorepair6038]

Torque test channel just proved that dewalt likes reverse better than forward.

[@86Sando]

Thanks for making this video mate. Now I’m guessing Milwaukee will get jealous and make a more powerful impact so the fan boys don’t cry for too long. Haha

[@fancraft1266]

The Milwaukee isn't underpowered, the DeWALT is TOO powerful

[@thorinbane]

@@fancraft1266 The milwaukee is overpowered as well. They are building these tools to break themselves apart. My makita is very ergo and is also shattering impact rated bits from dewalt and milwaukee. Impact wrench to get the job done if you have to torque over an m10 SHCS the adapter bit explodes, or the bit does. Who cares at this point, get the colour you like and that fits other criteria( small hand I like a smooth Makita)

[@fancraft1266]

@@thorinbane totally agree, Makita are slower but it preserves the lifetime of their tools

[@MrRustedmetal]

DeWalt is definitely more efficient if it runs cooler and faster

[@ChristianJames559]

Thanks for the video! It's my birthday and I can't wait to get the DCF860.

[@nbtmcid]

Happy Birthday!

[@ChristianJames559]

@@nbtmcid thank you!

[@ssergei]

milwaukee gets hot very quickly, means on the long jobs it'll need warranty faster🤷🏻‍♂️😁

[@truthserum9157]

I use both brands, about 50/50, I have both batteries and chargers for both brands, I usually research which one is better and get that one, for me that works out the best.

[@patbird9694]

Been tempted to go into the Dewalt line to try their brush less biscuit joiner. So I can compare it against the cordless Makita biscuit joiner.

[@MrCubflyer]

How often do you drive 12 inch timber screws I use my 12 volt Dewalt driver 98 percent of the time and all of the modern cordless drill are more than capable a few inch pounds either way I dont see the point to me ergonomics is much more important and reliability. thanks for the review anyway but to most everyone its a useless point.

[@josephmerz2666]

surprised the dewalt did not do better . Has your forge battery improved with use? I thought the dewalt did very well with that 1.7hr powerstack .

[@chris-C8]

I have reached the point where I keep a single battery and charger from every major brand because some models outperform the competition while others are lacklustre. Since I work in a shop and have access to power, it's convenient. It wouldn't be practical for use in the field, so I understand why people develop brand loyalty.

[@mariuszstanisz9070]

Can you do a comparison between DCF860 and DCF870 (Quiet Hydraulic Impact Driver) ?

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

I will when I can get one.

[@joshoconnor6684]

Its always down to the composition of the wood. The tools are just as good as the other

[@user-ld6wo4rv8h]

The 9Ah Flexvolt is better than the 5Ah PS, but the 5Ah PS shows less of a voltage drop under high load than the 6Ah Flexvolt. They are about equal, but that 5Ah PS just edges it out. With the form factor and weight, I would take the 5Ah PS every time over the 6Ah Flexvolt for a 20V tool. The 6Ah FlexVolt MAY outperform the 5Ah PS with some tools and vice versa, but it's pretty much even.

[@xtrickster6556]

I just saw a video on the new dewalt hydraulic impact driver. Most powerful yet according to them

[@user-ld6wo4rv8h]

The DeWalt DCF860 with the 1.7Ah PS was only marginally beat by the Milwaukee 2953-20 with Forge 6.0 battery at the end of the video for that 1 test, but in real world use, that package being so much lighter and smaller beats the Milwaukee 99% of the time. Until Milwaukee comes out with a compact pouch battery, DeWalt wins the impact driver battle because they have the best battery to go with it.

[@chadhamilton88]

Good video but it seems like always the bigger Hammer wins or heavier the tools is I know with the 5 amp battery with the Milwaukee feels balanced in the hand. what about the DeWalt? 5 or 6amp battery

[@derekrundlett8450]

Just missed the live debut. How is the dewalts trigger control?

[@tylerswain7103]

Honestly, it’s actually crazy how every other test that I’ve seen between the two of the Milwaukee has dog walked the DCF 860 I wonder why this is! Either way, I’m proud to see Dewalt stepping it up finally!

[@alexmills1329]

He’s next to the Aussies so maybe being upside down changes things a bit?

[@Juliuscaesar69th]

Where have you seen that ?

[@tylerswain7103]

@@Juliuscaesar69th tools with soalz just yesterday

[@theone-ou3gd]

​@@tylerswain7103 yea me too this guy seems suspect that milwaukee usually drives that fastener faster on everyother channel than it did here

[@nbtmcid]

@@tylerswain7103 HaHa Tools with Soalz is about as reliable and trustworthy as Putin.

[@TheChico868]

Dewalt competes. Damn

[@prophotos365]

They are so close it does not matter!!

[@riba2233]

1st smart comment here :D 👍

[@ns_racing]

Milwaukee is good with torque ratings for their impact drivers. Impact wrenches they have been terrible liars in past 10 years while Dewalt normally hits 100% torque ratings on everything they rate

[@riba2233]

interesting, I also see you have the new hikoki :)

[@John-771]

The small fraction that one is faster by means nothing to me. I use Dewalt, i really like there tools. I also have a few Milwaukee tools, i really like them too. Longevity is what I was to see.

[@wrefk]

This was a good showing. Dewalt is getting a lot of praise for this new driver, very fast especially compared to older models. But is only just ahead of the Milwaukee, did not realize there was such a gap

[@ibisman1593]

Nicely Oiled wooden screen backdrop.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pImbgYp5nLZ2kMU

[@skygreen5939]

Thanks for doing this testing! 6:30 - fwiw, in my experience, the 5PS output strength is between that of the 6FV & 9FV; i seem to recall TTC concluding so as well - maybe something up with your 5PS?

[@riba2233]

should be just slightly below 9fv, but smaller ofc

[@engineer_alv]

that's right. No way a good 5 PS is less powerful than a good 6 FV battery. The later is still using old 18650 cells and has lower discharge rate than the 5 PS. What makes it more impressive is the 5 PS could keep up and beat the Milwaukee with the 6Ah Forge as a few of us know that's the best performing Milwaukee battery available while the 5 Ah PS is not Dewalt's best. Which means the only way to have no variables between these two is comparing them with regular 5Ah batteries, 6Ah XR vs 6Ah H.O, 8Ah XR vs 8Ah H.O or 3Ah slim vs 3Ah H.O.

[@UKTOOLTALK]

I’d have the yellow one rather than the red one if I fell out with teal tools 🤟🤟

[@stupot_64]

That's never going to happen Jon!

[@davelevison7252]

I am a milwaukee guy, but I think its pretty clear the Dewalt 860 is better, runs cooler, has more power, and easier to handle. I don't think there is much room for debate. Both impacts had there little moments of failure.

[@TheChico868]

First person to do a real comparison

[@paulmitchell6485]

I run almost all Dewalt in my tools and they are all top quality tools but damn the NZ prices are so damn high I sometimes wish I'd gone makita for the massive range and cheaper prices

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Dewalt have cheaper combo deals of all the top brands in NZ.

[@toolscientist]

Now see how big of an impact wrench is needed to beat the Dewalt

[@andrestoodrip6616]

that dcf961 is brutal 🤣, nothing tops it

[@nexxt.4105]

would love to see a comparision between all the impacts.

[@edwardlogan267]

You should consider doing a torture test video between these impacts and a Makita, see which one breaks first!

[@kizzjd9578]

Would be a long video, makita would keep going lol

[@toolscientist]

It'd be interesting, but you'd really need at least 5 (and preferably 10) of each brand to get decent info.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Yeah... I don't have enough money for that test.

[@saiiiiiii1]

​@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL How about a donation goal specifically for this test? I'd throw something in 🤷🏻

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@toolscientist Durability tests are probably the easiest thing to comment vs how hard it is to pull off. Plan on covering this a bit tomorrow. People love to point out how performance means little, all about reliability. Well, this is a youtube video. Try to head to work and film everything you do until a tool naturally fails. Want to do it in a controlled experiment, run a tool until it dies, goes up in smoke? The good tools flash at you and turn off when too hot, and make you take breaks. The bad tools just keep going until on fire. If you test until tools stop running, the cheap tools will always win. If you hammer on a good tool until it fails, people will rightly call that abuse and not relate it to how the tool is used in real world. A simple ask, an impossible task.

[@victorhoyt4352]

I'd really like to see what the actual maximum break away and fastening torque is. Like on bolts or nuts. Great video!! I can't wait till they are released in the US!!

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Well you know where to see that when he gets one.

[@victorhoyt4352]

​@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL lol facts!! I was hoping maybe you br open to do it, but yeah ttc will do it when they fet one!!

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

It's hard to test powerful impacts like this on nuts and bolts as they just keep snapping bits.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

I had other tests planned but knew they would likely fail after the adapter broke so easily in this vid. That Milwaukee loves breaking them.

[@johnsxterra9020]

Torque test channel has a Dino Run of the 860 and Milwaukee

[@ashtondrake3407]

Does the Dewalt have much chuck wobble? Like the dcf887 had.

[@SuperPhoReal]

Even the 840 and 845 is better than the 887!

[@engineer_alv]

The best way to test peak torque is by removing lugnuts set at a certain amount of torque. If no torque set tools are available you can also try with a very large lag bolt let's say 1/2" x 10" and see which one can drive it the most over a 20-30 second period. Setting screws or lagbolt requires torque, of course but it's also an RPM and IPM game. That's why Dewalt at spd 2 would never be able to beat Milwaukee in spd 3 as speed 2 has way less RPMs and IPMs despite having roughly "the same torque". That's also why a 100Nm drill can do these tasks despite having less than half the torque of these two but would never be able to remove lugnuts.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Seems you missed the part where the socket adapter failed.

[@victorhoyt4352]

The gen 4 may be very close to the dewalt, but the gen 4 also has about a 50% failure rate... They crap out all the time. Not to mention, almost every M18 impact has loose battery problems, which has led to ppl making a strap to wrap around the battery. Like, are you serious right now?? How can you be a fan boy of something like that. Maybe 5 or 10 years ago milwaukee was leading the way, but dewalt is crushing them in the impact wrench and impact driver categories right now. Milwaukee still wins in most other categories, though.

[@alouisschafer7212]

Milwaukee is such a con. All Made in China, not repairable, mid grade tools at best in a fancy housing. They dont last. Dont care who wins honestly, I want a tool made with longevity and repairability in mind aka Makita, Bosch and Metabo. Metabo will sell you a Sander for 50 bucks and still provide a parts diagram, spare part list and an electrical diagram so you know how to wire it together when you took it apart.

[@dontect5784]

I think that being upset over your color tool not being the absolute best on every single test is a silly thing to stress in life, plus the competition between tools leaves the consumer in a better spot because brands will always try to be the top dog. Have an incredible day fellas.

[@whatthehellimbored]

Most of my tools are DeWalt and I'm a little surprised as DeWalt have never been known for their impacts. P.s on another video someone mentioned that they had some problems with the collet can you confirm this?

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

What sort of problem and who said it?

[@samv6767]

Could you throw the tdg002 in that mix ? Could be nice to see it compared

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

It was in the final shot of what's to come in this video.

[@samv6767]

I wrote it just before the shot hahaha

[@samv6767]

So yeah, you should compare it

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

I will

[@ThePako1984]

I am just planning to change all my dewalt tools for Milwaukee

[@SMEGMA1997]

see iv gone to maktia i was looking at dewalt but after finding out that if the motor gose bad you have to replace the whole internal components because the world would rather you chuck it away and buy a new one rather than repair it which just adds to waste and Makita feels more premium high-quality

[@gheufbfff]

I have never ever heard of someone replacing a motor in an impact driver. Like ever in 25 years. No manufacturer is replacing motors in impacts. The cost of labour, more returns etc, every company replaces the unit entirely with a new on. I wouldn't want an impact driver that's motor failed and the manufacturer replaced the motor only lol. What you have said does not make sense at all mate.

[@gheufbfff]

Makita also don't do this. Though that is a quality brand, nothing wrong with makita at all. Easier to just say... I liked makita better then the others haha. All this motor crap is literally rubbish. Milkwakee, dewalt and makita are really the only brands anyone in professional construction that isn't commercial should be using. Hilti is doing industrial and commercial. Ryobi dying and garden/around the house. If you go anything else, you aren't a professional lol

[@vuac95]

Tôi vẫn thích sự nhỏ gọn Của DCF850 nhưng vẫn đam mê DCf860 này

[@Bshwag]

Both are really powerful so much so that most of the fasteners that we commonly use are going to break or the bit will break.

[@thomasgilliam3104]

The fact that the 1.7 amp powerstack and that drill is keeping up with milwaukee 6amp forge is quite pethetic. 😂

[@nestortabullo4133]

It’s a 5 amp powerstack

[@bryantheawesome]

​@@nestortabullo4133 no, it's not.

[@squallwilde7713]

Put a big chunky flexvolt in there n see wot it does

[@chriss2295]

Ain’t competition great? Both are winners in my book.

[@jackofalltrades123]

It's crazy how in most of the ttr videos the dewalt loses. This is one of the few videos where dewalt spanked Mil! I wander if Europe is just getting all the good dewalts lol

[@xeress]

Up against the latest metabo bolt

[@БулатБасыров-у2щ]

Битва жЁлтого и красного монстров. Интересненько 🤔 Благодарю за показ Булатный лайк мой👍

[@Mrjordskie12]

I use to be all about what impact driver had the most grunt. But now I lean to what driver feels best in the hand. And hikoki and makita win that battle hands down. Who cares if it puts a screw in 2 seconds faster. Ergonomics for the win.

[@JoPro06]

I’ll stay with my smooth dtd172

[@gladysthegoat5505]

Try putting those screws into seasoned Australian iron bark and see how they go

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Post me some

[@andrewbradford8585]

Still believe Milwaukee is overall better to invest in but.... dangit Milwaukee 😅

[@shamwow7996]

I lazered the milwaukee after driving 400 screws it was 155 degrees....my 3rd gen was 98 degrees.

[@toolscientist]

Taranaki?

[@ProToolsApproved]

Is that the panasonic exena I see in there?

[@chipperkeithmgb]

I have one it’s nice

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWaofaaHj7FnibM

[@n9oqu]

You don't need a lot of torque on the most common fasteners. Unless you are on a construction crew driving lags all day

[@Senseiflow]

Hate to ask but how do these stack up against metabo and Makita? My metabo just died so I’m looking for a replacement

[@rorschacht8478]

What I get from any of these videos: Doesn't matter which brand you buy. Unless you're pushing the tool to its limit 8 hours a day all week. In which case I'd say you're using the wrong tool anyway.

[@free2chasehappy]

Dewalt is definitely more powerful, but man it is a chonky boy. Guys, don’t be brand loyal lol. I have both dewalt and milwaukee and I plan to jump ship to makita someday lol😊

[@wessel7972]

Thanks good video.

[@cristianhornet113]

Try the 8ah powerpack

[@louisd95714]

Very interesting comparison. Looks like the DeWalt is faster and the Milwaukee is more powerful.

[@urban8644]

i recon with some screw the dewalt encounter some weird harmonics thats why it stoped screwing

[@leaves2975]

Still don't think the Gen 4 is far better than the Gen 3. Besides the tri-led lights... Doesn't seem like a huge upgrade.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Yeah not that much difference.

[@saiiiiiii1]

The tri LED though. Glad all manufacturers go that route cause it's friggin amazing

[@frenchyroastify]

I need an impact drill with finesse. I work with counter sink screws that I like to keep at surface level. And weight matters.

[@robertpaget809]

You want the dewalt dcf845 if you want the best all rounder

[@riba2233]

@@robertpaget809 nah 845 is useless, doesn't have power nor features... if you don't need extreme power makita or hikoki are the way to go

[@minhdaubu2363]

There’s always speed 1

[@robertpaget809]

@@riba2233 makita has smooth trigger action ,light weight It all comes down to what your power tool line up is at the end of the day

[@riba2233]

@@robertpaget809 ofc

[@WanderlorenzoMonegroburgos]

Where i can't bay new DeWalt?

[@j.b.1593]

Something weird is happening with the Dewalt. At 3:48 it stops driving briefly and starts again and stops again at 3:54. You can hear the sound change as well. Only difference I can see on this particular round is that the fastener appears to be bending sideways implying that pressure is not being applied directly downwards. I wonder if this is causing some misalignment or binding in the impact mechanism? Dewalt impact wrenches can have a similar behaviour at times as well, as noted on TTC (and in personal experience)

[@nbtmcid]

Do you use impacts, or just watch them on KZbin?

[@j.b.1593]

🤣 Do you think before you type, or just go straight to insults because you don't understand?

[@M_E_T_R_O__9]

Both great tools tbh 👍

[@wishicould473]

Its about time Dewalt finally catching up with milwaukee on their 1/4 impacts lol

[@charlesfinnegan7930]

Now if Dewalt can make their version burst into flames as fast as the Milwaukee, they will truly catch up.

[@jamesomara8036]

I heard a rumor about collet retention... hopefully that's just a rumor.

[@iangregoryhome]

What's that Red HiKOKI, is it new!?

[@riba2233]

new gen :)

[@nils1953]

3:53 - wtf was that? It didn't sound or look like it was stalled because of limited torque. It sounded like a miss-timing of the hammer hitting the anvil or smth like that.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

That is exactly what impacts do when they don't have enough torque to overcome the friction of the fastener.

[@nils1953]

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL the new TTC video could indicate that this was actually a mistiming of the "spring back dance" which may have lead to a sudden loss of torque during the impacts.

[@thorinbane]

Makita low vibe is all I need. Want more power get the torque wrench

[@hussaintouq3859]

Iam waiting for this raw ..

[@reginalb124]

I don't think the flex 6 outperforms the powerstack. The XR 6 uses 21700 cells while the Flexvolt doesn't, so it might outperform the PS. Anyway, awesome test. DeWalt has stepped it up, but given my experience with the 850 blowing up on my, I'll stick with my purple Makita. As an aside, I'm pretty interested in the 870 (hydraulic) and how it compares to the aging Milwaukee.

[@riba2233]

6 fv - 90a (3p x 30a, 20s samsung cells) 6 xr - 80a (2p x 40a, 30t samsung cells) 5ps - around 100, maybe a bit more but we don't have exact numbers

[@itzyaboiphantom1740]

When is this baby coming out I’m tired of waiting!

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

It's out here.

[@Slyder695]

Maybe the dewalt has higher torque in lower speed

[@thevillain8151]

I've learned dewalt is unreliable over time, used to have the 887 and it crap itself one day now I have the gen 3 milwaukee now? I'm not sure but it came with the milwaukee drill that had their new chuck with the red ring around it.

[@thorinbane]

Out of the box I loved my XR set, but after breaking both hammer drill and impact inside 2 years(no falls) I switched back to makita after being away since my 9.2 volt recip and drill kit in the late 90s. Been a pleasant surprise at the great ergo on them. Now what do I do with all my other dewalt string trimmer, sander, circ saw, blower, osci tool and batteries. Still operate well and will last a long time at home, vs in the shop so its not a total loss.

[@charlesfinnegan7930]

Both Dewalt and Milwaukee Cordless are unreliable over time. If you replace tools every 3 or 4 years this is not a problem. If you don't want to replace buy Festool, Metabo, Hitachi/Hikoki, Hilti, Makita or Bosch. Basically the Euro or Japanese brands.

[@keysautorepair6038]

If you can keep the Milwaukee from exploding itself would rather have a long lasting impact.

[@nicoquattro3950]

I really hope that wasnt the friday video mate

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Nope. Shit gets wild in the next one in a little over 2 hours.

[@nicoquattro3950]

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Thats what i wanted to hear. Nice

[@chuckgrenci6404]

So............just pick one. (If you already have one brand; just stick with it).

[@darrenhenderson7076]

Even the test where Milwaukee screw was lower than DeWalt , DeWalt still won now this is good enough tonhave xr on it not the last xr model it has no balls lol

[@philhines]

I just want to find out if the Dewalt will live a long life, or shit out after a while like your previous model one did …

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Me too.

[@harryd1664]

Thats what I care about. I don't make much, I'm interested to see which tool is the most durable and long lasting.

[@fancraft1266]

If you want lot of durability, Makita, Bosch, Hilti, Festool are you choices

[@carlosf9278]

this test mostly shows how much of a difference there is between batteries. I’m mostly a Dewalt fan since they have more bundle options for their tools and usually have a better selection of batteries (XR, compact, Powerstack, Flexvolt) I mean I guess Milwaukee now has one more battery option than before (regular, compact, HO variants & Forge) so they’re about the same as Dewalt… they’re usually more expensive tho so that’s why I went with Dewalt… the batteries at the end of the day are what you’re really looking at I have a lot of Milwaukee tools as well & bought a lot of the Packout… not a fanboy of any brand… I have a bias towards Dewalt for sure but it’s mostly because it’s the brand I started with & I’m glad they finally made an impact that can compete with the other brand in terms of raw power… really want it to replace my old 887😭😂