New DeWalt DCF860 Impact Driver Review. The Worlds Most Powerful Impact Driver!

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

DeWalt DCF860 VS Milwaukee Gen 4 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaOomoaaf9eAjJY

[@hammyzgod]

I've had my dcf850 a little over 2 years now, and it's been as solid as a rock, not a single issue with it and has been my no 1 impact go to since i brought it.

[@aaronkowalewski659]

I feel the same way! I absolutely love my DCF850. I have the Milwaukee Gen 4 2953 which is an animal but the Dewalt is my go to driver

[@vlad1889]

​@aaronkowalewski659 I've been torturing my gen 4 red for 6 years. It's all busted up, but it still works. Although, from what I heard and saw the new versions are not as reliable. Might wait for another update before switching.

[@hammyzgod]

@vlad1889 the gen 4 hasn't been out 6 years! What are you on about.

[@hammyzgod]

The gen 4 was released in 2022, the gen 3 came out in 2016.

[@shawn_369]

I converted a dcf850 to an impact wrench & it's been an awesome little work horse for me. Zero issues so far & it's seen a lot of use. I also frequently use all 3 settings with no problems.

[@default9740]

Try stripping down the 850, clean the speed switch with contact cleaner followed by compressed air. There’s a bit of grease used on assembly, add dust and grit to that, the contacts get bridged.

[@wrefk]

I feel like impacts have hit a limit already a while ago, the 1/4 bits just cant handle the torque and break before the driver gets maxed out. Crazy improvement on that 860

[@nominalvelocity]

Agreed, they need a beefier shank standard for the next generation of drivers, 8mm would make a lot more sense for impacts this powerful. Hopefully the Japanese companies drive the standard so we get stuff like double sided bits and such.

[@aaronoconnor606]

​@@nominalvelocity that would make sense. I think that's why makita and hikoki don't build impact drivers that are as powerful as dewalt and milwaukee. Not really any point when the bits can't take the torque

[@Lee-lb9qh]

​@@nominalvelocitydon't need any of that, it's called a 3/8 or 1/2 impact wrench, get one!

[@SupposedlyShiny]

I’d really like a mid torque 7/16 hex

[@jaywelker5566]

I've never broken any of the T40 bits that come with a box of large torx screws. I've seen plenty of impact drivers that couldn't sink those screws though. The Milwaukee Gen 3/4 rarely struggled, and it's nice that Dewalt's going to finally try and leapfrog them.

[@Mrjpk1971]

I've had my DCF860 for two weeks and yes it's a beast. It even makes my TD001G look under powerd

[@morpheus_9]

I have had the TD002G for 2 years now, still runs like a champ. Love that its water resistant. Ive dropped it in buckets of water and its fine.

[@petro5]

Where’d you get it?

[@Mrjpk1971]

@@petro5 Sydney Tools

[@hosainparchment5692]

Where did you buy it?

[@86Sando]

I have a DCF850 and use it daily but only on speed 2 as speed 3 is too much juice. However that extra bright LED and 20min function would be awesome but I can’t justify spending $370 AUD just for a skin. Thanks for the comparison mate.

[@Ga7cun7sSUCK]

Its expensive thats for sure im still gettkng one. Ive been running the original 3 speed brushless that was the first brushless offering for about 13 years still works fine just haslost alot of its original punch 👊

[@default9740]

Tried the 860 side by side with a 922 wrench the other week. Nothing in it. Beast of a tool for the size!

[@garryseinfeld9212]

My 850s like 2 1/2 years old and I’ve dropped it 3 stories to solid concrete and it’s totally fine. Only selects the wrong speed like 2 times a month and it’s fixed in like 2 seconds flat. I use it hard because I have a back up 887 and I’d replace it with an 860 if it broke but it runs great. Mines all custom colors and has decals like it’s my #1 most used power tool.

[@BlackenedEclipse]

Just got mine and this thing is a tank of a beast impact driver. What I like about my Dewalt is they stay relatively cool compared to Flex’s and Milwaukee’s flagships

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Got mine super hot yesterday. But it does take much longer than the gen 3 and 4 Milwaukee.

[@Ga7cun7sSUCK]

Its about tkme ive set fore to 3 of my dewalt impacts laying boards

[@aaronkowalewski659]

My DCF850 has been hands down the most rrliable driver ive ever owned. So im kinda shocked to see you having issues it.

[@dangray1310]

Nice video, thanks. Seems unfortunate about the 850's unreliability issues youve had. It's my daily use driver and mine has had no issues, same with the 887. I have had trigger issues on the 887 and the DCD796 drill, though, constant trigger pressure, but the RPM's will vary, must be a loose connection?

[@morpheus_9]

Cant wait until makita releases the TD004G. Hopefully it has the ring light and is significantly more powerful.

[@kk83y]

I want to see it vs Makita 40v and vs Milwaukee

[@PageMarker1]

DeWalt tools for wood, for all else go Team Red! Not so sure that holds water these days, if it ever did. For years, nothing beat Milwaukee on drills and impacts. As a DIY, Fuel 12v would probably more than suffice for me.

[@brianf9619]

About Freakin Time DeWalt ... Ive been waiting a Looong time for this , when they finally updated their Impact Wrenches I didn't think we would have to wait this long for a New PowerHouse Impact Driver , still hard for me to believe...😂🤣

[@isaaccaris9530]

A new standard on impact driver.. 2024 is on history... other times was milwaukee in 2018 smaller and stronger. I just wanna see next video dewalt vs flex or milwaukee

[@AllodialTitle]

For bigger screws I use the dcf922, lighter jobs the dcf887.

[@rayw6690]

Any chance to compare dcf860 and dcf870? Since 870 only have 50Nm torque.

[@peaceful668]

Does bit wobble?

[@SamuelAguilar-pi4wi]

Thank for the video from ca, USA! & any advice on choosing the least problematic impact driver? I was thinking m18 gen 4 trash same with dewalt

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

_If you've seen my channel, you should know the answer..._

[@dave38x]

I have literally not once had an issue with a Dewalt 3 position switch in a tool that wasn't battered to hell in a decade.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

You got lucky.

[@lewisspurr9167]

​@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Neither have i and ive been running it since i started working

[@SplashJohn]

5+ hard years on an 887 with zero issues, and not once heard a complaint about the switch from a fellow tradesman.

[@dobedoom]

Had my DCF850 for a year and a half and it's never had any of those issues.

[@cryptodojoau5425]

Just FFS! I have the 220nm Milwaukee. It has all the other impact drivers on site for breakfast! "Hey, I can't get the screw I just put in, in the wrong spot, out"! " Bring the Milwaukee over"! Now I have to have this!!!! F! 😂🤣😂

[@johannkrist]

there is a new kid in town. 282nm Dewalt DCF860 it´s been beating the Milwaukee constantly with other youtubers.

[@haydenjohnson1520]

My 850 also changes speed without switching modes. I use the screw mode to screw in the terminals on outlets and sometimes it’ll randomly switch to speed 3 and completely strip out the screw and sometimes the threading of the receptacle. If you bang it on the ground it switches to the mode you need… til you drop it Had it for a full year. Kinda disappointed as it’s my first impact and my journeyman’s impact is about 3 years older than mine and his works with no problem

[@FIN4L_BOSS]

Any idea when this will release in the U.S?

[@ericnichols9275]

We Always seem to be LAST

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

@ericnichols9275 Rubbish. DeWalt and Milwaukee are usually released months before the rest of the world.

[@ericnichols9275]

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL does not show up on any tool sites like ACME or OHIO Power tools

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Yes on THIS occasion you weren't first, but as I said, usually you are.

[@masseyman3552]

My 887 is starting to give up after over 7.5 years, never had an issue with the speeds.

[@SplashJohn]

Agreed, my 887 was a 100% reliable beast for a bit over 5 years, and I really pushed it hard (remodel carpenter). When it died after being dropped from a 20' scaffold to concrete, I almost got emotional.

[@hosainparchment5692]

Where can I buy this?

[@maxjordan2625]

Weird to see the 850 trip up like that! I've had mine for a few years and beaten the shit out of it without so much as a hiccup!

[@aussiehardwood6196]

Even with the bug 10" timberlock screw they ALL finished within under 3 seconds of each other. So even after screwing in hundreds of these screws u might save a few minute. 🤔 Either of these tools are perfectly suitable for their intended purpose.

[@derrickthd]

When you're working with a tool all day it makes a big difference. It's not just the time but the fatigue as well. Especially if you're doing them horizontal or at an angle where you can't put your weight into it. He's testing it in a very comfortable position. Try driving long bolts while on a tall ladder, laying on your side or above your head. A lot of work has to be done in awkward positions and that's where the small advantage is multiplied.

[@rogiemac]

Video is only 6 months old, but all 3 drivers say 18V on them. All I find is 20V now on those models

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

That's because you live in America and Dewalt call them 20v to make people think they are more powerful. You are another victim of this. In the rest of the world they are labeled as what they really are, 18v.

[@carlmcdonald5864]

I don't use DeWalt but if I was to pick one of the three the 850 is to clear winner sizes King the smaller the better

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Except they are unreliable. When working properly they are a great little unit.

[@Johndeere60]

​@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL your the first I've heard of having this issue mabey it's more common but I know 6 diff guys that have them and no issues

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

A few people in the comments have the same issues. It is very common.

[@iconr6racer]

​@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIALis the 850 issue fixable? Im curious if for most people its the same thing that fails.

[@christopherboucher2887]

I've seen 3 people on my old crew break their gen 4 m18's after less than 18 months. One guy went through 2. My old j man has his dewalt impact from 14 years ago still. Grip started peeling off the, handle and it's missing most of the rubber bumpers but it's still tickin. Also, I find Milwaukee'a batteries tend up stick to their tools a lot when taking the battery out. I'll be actively over working my current Dewalt impact on purpose. Then I can justify buying the 860 if it gives out.

[@Sgten01]

860 vs gen3 Milwaukee is a must at some point.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

And surely gen 4

[@Sgten01]

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL isn’t gen 3 more powerful than 4 for some odd reason?

[@gregorsamsa1364]

​@@Sgten01nope

[@Sgten01]

@@gregorsamsa1364 pretty sure i seen VCG test it and gen 3 came out on top. But regardless maybe both versions can be included vs 860. I got dewalt everything but was gonna buy gen 3 after using mates one. Will most likely grab 860 at fielddays in a few weeks.

[@gregorsamsa1364]

@Sgten01 gen 4 came out on top in their performance tests. But not by much, if I remember correctly

[@florinG]

887>>> 59£=good deal, 860>>> 200£=no thanks.

[@keysautorepair6038]

So the 6 amp battery is better than the power stack?

[@robertdascoli949]

13:50 I have a feeling this will smoke the competition.

[@jack8356]

Good test

[@misha030302]

Still don't understand why they released the 840 and 845 if after less than a year they release the 860.

[@ns_racing]

Been 2 years for 840 and 1 year for 845 now. They have been releasing a new one every year last few years

[@robertcasey3528]

Bosch just released a new impact driver, they went from 210 Nm on the last one to 220 on the new version. They increase the power on each model by too small increments in my opinion.

[@lamdog24]

I've seen videos of the new AEG and that's a beast! Curious to see how they compare.

[@대체.라고했다]

Good Detail Show !!~~~

[@ClipsByMiles]

I gave up on my 850 and bought an 860 - not because of the extra power, but just because of the useless mode 1 on the 850 that stops right when you want it to start impacting. Let me turn the stupid screw mode off! Thank god the 860 doesn't have it - it just gets straight to impacting.

[@riba2233]

282? Oh boy, those poor collets 😅

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Yeah 100 more than a 173

[@robbie154]

The 850 is just so tiny. No need for a 12v line anymore. Put a bigger battery on when you need, put a 2ah on when you don't.

[@Jimmie-pk1pm]

Do those have enough torque to do wheelbults on a car?

[@Vanman_fr]

There must be an issue specifically with the Australian version of the dcf850 because I've never seen that issue here in america

[@randythomas9052]

I was thinking the same thing, bought my 850 when it first came out and never had a single issue with it, and never heard of this problem till this video.

[@BigInjun05]

Put it up against flex's best with their lithium pouch.

[@sofjanmustopoh7232]

DCF 860 is hitting 180-200 foot pound real world ( spec 282 NM ) . Pretty sure all the Phillip head going to strip out . Only Torx , or Hex bolt would survive. Hex you can change car lug nut with it too .

[@kizzjd9578]

Doubt anyone would be driving a phillips head screw in on max power though.

[@sofjanmustopoh7232]

@@kizzjd9578 There will always be time when you have to take out old construction , and there will always be OLD phillip head screw to take out. you can bet your sweet batt pack on it. heck sometime there will be slotted wood screw to take out from a very old building.

[@kizzjd9578]

@@sofjanmustopoh7232 yea i come across the old flathead 10-12g screws all the time unfortunately lol.

[@OlegLitovchenko-t1d]

Agreed !​@@kizzjd9578

[@robertpaget809]

A real dewalt Milwaukee fight finally after fobbing us off with junk

[@Ender_Wiggin03]

Wish I could find one of these here in the USA, I'm still using the DCF787 that came with the Dewalt kit I bought couple years ago.

[@olivermaskell6244]

Im still running my old 886, just had to change the hammer and chuck etc once or twice, couldnt really notice anything that made the 887 or 850 worth buying. This might've convinced me to finally upgrade😂

[@KevinLatash]

It's just not purple--with-a-ring-light enough.

[@keysautorepair6038]

My 850 does this same exact thing since day one.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

The 2 Minute Version kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5DOlod7lNVmbJI

[@ToolTimeToday]

i was going to get this dcf860 as soon as it came out, But quickly though naaa i'l wait with dewalts reputation in tatters because of the dcf850 and all of it's problem like you showed in this video demo. to yeah shall be eagerly awaiting your showdown video.....

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Hopefully it survives all the tests I have lined up for it... but I won't be surprised if it doesn't.

[@wearetheremnants1615]

Makita ftw. For overall reliability, adequate speed, adequate power

[@leewalker5563]

922 with 1/4 head

[@TheChico868]

Milwaukee comparison

[@georgedavall9449]

W. O. W. Z. Z. E. R. !!!

[@igorgoza8582]

За ціну 860 можна купити 2 887

[@sduncle]

can 860 uses double sided bits?

[@bananazx]

it depends on where it is released. For asia, double sided bits are standard.

[@olgajoachimosmundsen4647]

Vs Milwaukee

[@axemastersinc3269]

208 Ft Lbs

[@ruddigger83]

So total tools was having a deal on Dewalt so I handed over some cash. In the kit picked up the DCF840. Ive been very impressed with it. Looking forward to what the others are like

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

The 860 leaves the 840 for dead.

[@ruddigger83]

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I also couldn’t pass up the kits as it came with a 5ah power stack.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

@@ruddigger83 DeWalt sell kits at ridiculously cheap prices. Often cheaper to buy a kit than buy a stand alone battery. Their marketing is whack.

[@simondodds7910]

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL does the chuck still flop around like crazy with a long extension bit in it like the 887?

[@jasonphillips3865]

Sorry. Not into Black and Decker 😮

[@coreychristenson6500]

Damn

[@northfox21]

870은 더 나아질라나?

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

It won't be more powerful, just quieter.

[@dillongreaves9452]

My 850 sucks to it dose the same things it’s bullshit the should recall them

[@ozyrob1]

I wouldn't trust it until you've thrashed it for a year.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

I never expect a DeWalt to last a year.

[@ozyrob1]

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Wow, that puts them on the never buy one list for me. Thanks for the candour.

[@glenarseneau1231]

Holy shit lol

[@clintdurbin5081]

Only took dewalt 20 years to catch up

[@thevillain8151]

Too bad Dewalt, already replaced you with Milwaukee, womp womp

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

Try this kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaOomoaaf9eAjJY

[@ericnichols9275]

Need This New 860 for my KZbin channel i have 500 VIDEOS Planned

[@axemastersinc3269]

Foot pounds...

[@freddy2141]

OK DEWALTS AND MILWAUKEES I'M CARELESS FOR YOUR COLORS OR PRICE$$ AND POWER 🔋 JUST LETS GET THE JOB DONE ON TIME ⏲️ 💪🏼 AND GO HOME