NEW Echoes Act 2 Trailer Just Dropped (FULL BREAKDOWN) | Destiny 2

[@s0api__229]

howd'you go from "Damn she is mad fine" into deep lore in 25 seconds you are incredible, your craft is immaculate

[@kenc5199]

um you go shes damn fine, then give your first deep lore. lol

[@MrMinster228]

Dog he is so real for that tho she so damn bad

[@theSixPathsOfTrains]

The best 👌. Lol

[@zoro7605]

ain’t no way you glazed him this hard

[@carternorton2682]

From everything I understand, all the Vex, apart from Wyverns, that we’ve seen so far are only like builders and stuff. That combined with what’s happening now, I hope we see some real crazy things from Vex in the future

[@MrCwoodward]

I definitely remember pre-Wyverns Bungie mentioning that we hadn't seen any actual Vex combat units yet, just construction type units

[@byranwitherspoon5369]

Correct… only builders or farmers so far

[@giga-egg]

@@MrCwoodward i think calus mentioned it too at some point

[@ringomandingo1015]

@@giga-eggCalus was the first and possibly only person who knew and told us about these vex. Man, I miss Calus… Big guy seemed like he knew way more than he let on. It’s a shame he was written to be just be bait for us to link the Veil.

[@giga-egg]

@@ringomandingo1015 calus is probably one of my favorite characters in the franchise wish he went out in a grander way

[@comeheathens]

Remember. "The Conductor" seat was a part of Neomuna lore. When Maya and her followers tried to re-enact The Ritual The Witness had done.

[@iamboringvideos6832]

didnt that result in Lakshmi-2? who is still dead?

[@chungusultimate]

@@iamboringvideos6832 lakshmi is a copy of maya sundaresh

[@JamesRival]

@@chungusultimate Hold on, what!?

[@iamboringvideos6832]

@@chungusultimate i know, dont worry

[@soundwave4236]

@@chungusultimate Lakshmi was originally her own person, then The Veil caused her to suffer a mental death which then led to Maya's mind being copied into her

[@WiilGrn]

Going to Riis and Torobatl was something i’ve always wanted to do in this game. I hope frontiers brings us there to reclaim the homes of our allies now that the forces of the witness are leaderless. Xivu may actually be hiding on Torobatl due to being banished from her throne world. No one’s gone back there after the hive took it over so she’s somewhat safe there for now. The potential is enormous and I hope they go big with it.

[@Fufenscoops]

imagine the weapon sets

[@joshuavasquez7787]

Please go back to Venus bungie. I love that planet. Edit: I think Nessus is very different from Venus and don’t try to convince me otherwise, I have made my mind. I’m okay with old d1 stuff returning just as long we get new content along side it.

[@Shxlbyyy]

Definitely my favorite patrol area, I used to just go and explore Venus for hours

[@gamingwithmaya502]

If they bring back Venus, they will have to nerf titans to help balance crucible. Lol

[@johnflory3306]

Venus is just Nessus though. Vex in a woodland area undergoing planetary rework. Wouldn't you rather a new area?

[@Shxlbyyy]

@@gamingwithmaya502 What?

[@joshuavasquez7787]

@@Shxlbyyy it’s a community joke that bungie nerfs titans for no reason.

[@vgernyc]

Would like to see Asher Mir vs Maya Sundaresh

[@flyinsquirel9929]

OH GOD YES !! Didn’t think of that one

[@georgebeswick7549]

Asher is dead, he was fully absorbed into the network during Season of Defiance

[@Augors]

I see the vision!

[@vgernyc]

@@georgebeswick7549 That was Mithax's claim but Asher Mir responded by calling him "an anatomical region". Asher Mir seemed pretty confident on what he was doing by going deeper into the Vex network. I would venture to say Maya did similar things.

[@sanzo669]

@@vgernyc i think Asher might have a stronger connection since his merging was more natural while the conductor almost feels like they are brute forcing it by using the Echoes power

[@HealeyGoldman-ev5dg]

They posted that echoes is about maya sundaresh and her ability to control radiolarian - based things (exos, vex)

[@Mispehled]

Source?

[@johnflory3306]

Who tf is Maya Sundaresh

[@theawesomesausage]

@@johnflory3306 Msund12

[@sirthomastheodoreblackwood5590]

@@johnflory3306 Maya Sundaresh is (If I'm remembering right) one of the scientists that worked on studying the Veil during the Lightfall expansion. Maya eventually died and was converted to become an Exo. She became Lakshmi, the leader of the future war cult. The conductor is the leader of the future war cult basically.

[@johnflory3306]

@@sirthomastheodoreblackwood5590 A, you're a peach, thanks. B, Future War Cult Supremacy. C, if she studied it during Lightfall, how did she go back into the past to become Lakshmi?

[@logan_sunday]

Evil Time traveling Ana Bray. (Everyone pretty much knows its Maya so if im right ill look like a genius)

[@codylujan]

that's a good one actually lol

[@militantfarmerconcept569]

I was thinking the exo stranger from the dark future timeline

[@whatdRaysay]

Its crazy how when i first played d2 when shadowkeep came out i would always compare the Hive to the flood from Halo but as time goes on i feel the flood is more like the Vex in D2

[@5amu22]

Look into SIVA from D1 rise of iron. I think it'll scratch your itch

[@crasterlongshanks4284]

The Expanse mentioned. That's the first time I've ever heard it mentioned outside of the "space giga-nerd" youtube "area". Great show, yall should watch it.

[@byranwitherspoon5369]

That’s my show!!!

[@VastlyPoor]

Pur & Kleen is my beverage of choice

[@WeissM89]

I'm not saying it's not Maya, but you guys forget Chioma Esi also entered the Vex network to find Maya. It occurred to me that it could also be her when I heard Saint's dialogue at the HELM explaining how the Conductor was exploring his legitimacy, as if the Conductor was also searching for someone and wanted to know if that someone is real or just a copy.

[@projectxrapture]

Spoiler.... It's confirmed to be Maya brotha

[@KingShibe]

The leaks are on KZbin dude. She just temporarily controls Saint, Ikora, and your character before you all break free and shoot her. She escapes by sinking into radiolara

[@animeanimal2222]

I just realized that the exostranger may play a big role again because she's never seen a time where we beat the Witness.

[@omarlemus5150]

Being able to actually GO to the cabal, fallen and hives home world would be pretty sick, ngl

[@TheNeoVid]

Retaking our allies' homeworlds would be one of the cooler things they could do for a new main story arc now that the Light vs Darkness the game started with is concluded!

[@ShadowTycoon]

@@TheNeoVidive been saying that the Xivu expansion needs to have Torabotl as the destination

[@boricuatc4982]

I hope we see the actual Vex built for fighting. Need to see something that frightens me

[@thedogpresident6782]

Nobody: Aztecross: MAYA ZAMN!!!

[@bewso.]

That looks like the boss and room from the "A Garden World" strike!

[@HumzyTumzy]

“The Conductor” and “The Chorus”, were footsteps followed by The Witness and Maya Sundaresh to the precursor race and humanity respectively! Like a musical performance … one being conducting a chorus of many?

[@user-xt7og5vp8p]

Welcome back, MSund12

[@ChazzyPhizzle1]

I really like the Episode/Act distribution so far. Gets me hype for a new "act" when it otherwise would have been just another week in a season. It feels like we are getting more new stuff vs before even if the amount of content is the same. Plus they said the upcoming exotic mission is massive and they only could do it with the new format. So that's a big win too.

[@jedbedrock2944]

In the lore, the Vex are the most dangerous thing to exist. They dominated every universe they were in during the flower game. Before meeting Crota they were pretty passive. With their time line stuff, they knew we would stop the Witness. The Vex are my favorite faction, and i really hope Bungi lets us fight the Vex for the greater than Witness threat that they really are.

[@mikkxfit]

I wish the auto had sights like that Sidearm

[@DDmegadoodoo]

I would be happy if the Auto just didn't have such an obstructive sight when you're not ADSing. I genuinely love using the new auto, but it can get rough sometimes when I'm just moving around because the gun model takes up so much of the screen.

[@samsungsmiley1]

That Rocket sidearm is gonna be clutch for my hazardous propulsion build

[@vidhrasingh2146]

I feel like far future, if we’re helping everyone out, and raids are still a thing bungie is outputting with frontiers, there are some pretty specific ones that would be awesome: (a) taking back cabal home-world, (b) hive war moon, and (c) a vex-origins raid of some kind

[@b0ld651]

The vex IS the final shape the winnower was talking about in the flower game.

[@nickfortune4860]

Thought he was gonna write “Taniks” at the end there 😂💀

[@XxKingZayXx280]

That battleground had the end part and boss of that one mercury strike (Cyclops boss from mercury strike)

[@GyanPrakash]

Conductor and The Choir of One goes hand in hand, the weapon is somehow related to her 😊

[@jeromepoe946]

Something you missed it looked like a garden world returns around when they mention the artifact perks with the sniper. It could be just a look alike area but I’m praying that it’s the strike returning as a battleground or heck just make it return with extra ad density and wyverns

[@georgebeswick7549]

It would be great to have Shoreh back Voicing The Conductor, she'd be great voicing a villain and being a reoccurring villain, which The Vex have always lacked.

[@corruption123___3]

I love maya's design, i want that glowing neck accessory for our guardians so bad, it looks awesome.

[@miniipancakes]

I don't think The Conductor will have control over all Exos. Saint might be the only one, the reason is because of how long he was asleep in the Infinite Forest, and since he is a copy of the original, the Vex could have done something to his code(?), or whatever Exos have instead of code.

[@lorddarkhart2775]

It wasn't a copy, it's the original Saint. The Sundial was a legit time machine.

[@XDieKillDieX]

​@@lorddarkhart2775No, they retconned it and all the time travel stuff. It's all just vex simulations now. Now he is a copy. Osiris admitted that himself a few weeks ago. "I only looked into timelines that matched our own."

The cut scenes were leaked a few weeks ago and yes she has reprised her voice roll. New Guns looking tasty 😋

[@trav_da_enigma]

5:17 NOW we know why Bungie suggested we get a Fourth Time/Deconstruct rolled Uzimi in a TWID before Final Shape launched.... Ignition machine (Whisper in Legendary Form) 🤯

[@keatonanderson5256]

I’m just a KZbin viewer and a casual PVE player but my guess for Frontiers is after we finish up echoes and deal with Xivu and Fikrul frontiers is going to be us expanding the hive out into the cosmos, the lucent hive anyway

[@jaydephoenix8712]

She's got to be The Conductor, since Maya 'unalived' herself, experimenting with The Conductor's Chair in Neptune, in that facility where The Veil is kept

[@KingJC.]

A garden world cyclops is back

[@sharcblazer99]

Tommy's matchbook hungers for blood, high enemy density? New wyverns that teleport? We'll see how dangerous they are when they are constantly exploding and on fire.

[@JeffreyMcLain]

My guy out here dropping TAOX?!?! ggwp, them's the deep cuts.

[@elijahford3696]

Now my only question is for what she was doing inside the Traveler. And the other two sparks that flew out, what are they up to while we're dealing with this. Giving me daughters of Manus vibes.

[@ms3x79]

Had a feeling Maya would possibly be at play when Micah-10 brought up that Cayde-6 worked at the Ishtar Collective before he was an Exo.

[@kurtnordli1381]

Watch The Conductor take full control over saint-14 and we end up having to fight him because he becomes evil.

[@Sobergamer61]

I hope that Frontiers is what D3 was supposed to be, and instead we travel to another system, discover multiple new races, give us all our old patrol zones back, Venus, Tangled Shore, Mars, IO, Deadnought, Titan, Mercury, etc I’m not sure if I’m forgetting any, but Guardians, this would be so dope.

[@SapphireTempestCandleOfStories]

I don’t know about you all, but I’ve never had a doubt this was Maya from the beginning. Not due to the general consensus, but due to my own findings in the Spectrum Ghost Shell, and the Polychroma ship, I made a little video (which I am frankly surprised no one watched) that goes over the said points, if you’re interested. The question for me has never been who is she, but who is she working with? And what kind of entity is behind her shared research? EDIT: Couldn’t link the video, I typed this out on the IPad, and I am not at current able to utilize links on that platform. I’ll come back and edit on PC later today.

[@dandyman7819]

"Introduce heterosexual important new Destiny NPC challenge (impossible)."

[@NrdDy]

Zavala literally leads the Vanguard

[@dandyman7819]

@@NrdDy I said "NEW" character... Also, Zavala's only family is long dead. They ALMOST had a new heterosexual romantic subplot happen with Amanda & Crow, but seemingly realized that and nipped it in the bud by offing Holliday.

[@CannibalPrinceTV]

The way Cross says "Likshmi" lolol

[@ChipperMcManus]

Am i the only one who saw the leaked renders of the seasonal cutscenes? so interesting to see how far it has come since those pre renders (they were using maya sundaresh's old model instead of this one). It is Maya Sundaresh, if you did not see. It sounds like the same voice actor, too. Maybe just a good copy. SPOILER: She is going to try to force us to drink the milk with her powers and we are going to escape barely :)

[@ZGamingGuy]

So no new exotics? New exotic armor is what I always look forward to most.

[@Forcer69]

So do we know if episodes are being vaulted or not? One of the biggest reasons why Bungie makes battlegrounds is because they get used as both a seasonal activity and a future strike/GM. So, I don’t really see the point of them making battlegrounds unless they have more planned for them.

[@jackburkel4119]

Upon further but brief investigation I actually can't find where they mention this. I could've sworn it was mentioned when we first heard about episodes. I guess I could be mistaken.

[@ShadowNemesis575]

I mean the battlegrounds are basically just more season thematic strikes if you disregard all the battlegrounds specific immunity phases in the end bosses and that battlegrounds are way more enemy density focused over a room with like 8 snipers, 6 boomers, 4 champions, and a partridge in a pear tree. That and your seasonal challenges and weekly quests will specifically tell you do stuff in "_________ battlegrounds" not strikes or the strike playlists. With that in mind, I doubt they'll do more than what they're currently doing

[@nittani.]

​@@jackburkel4119no u were right

[@jackburkel4119]

@@nittani. Ya okay I thought so? Glad someone else remembers.

[@nittani.]

@@jackburkel4119 wanna inspire people?

[@swampyproductions6755]

if asher mir doesn’t come back to help us out in some way, even if he just manifests as a conflux or something, it’ll be a missed opportunity to have a really cool callback to some old story beats.

[@evtrain9025]

That Saint forced betrayal would be so good!

[@Rex_Stuph]

Probably a different VA. Lakshmi was already a person who exo'd but was killed by the Veil. Maya used her dead frame. So Lakshmi's frame would of had Lakshmi's voice.

[@XvCrossReapervX]

Could the vex be one of the first species that the traveler enlightened? If so maybe they were the original "ghosts" the traveler realized its mistake and made the ghosts instead rather than an immortal replicating army.

[@wookieehairem2557]

I've kind of had a spin foil hat theory for awhile that Taox will actually be our ally vs xivu arath but with savathun revived maybe not...

[@randallsimmons391]

Aztecross, you have such the perfect voice for readings that you should give a go to audiobooks. I could listen to you read LOTR and feel the same thrill as the first time I read it.

[@XxDeathxX509]

I would literally liquify myself if we go to fundament, as a hive enthusiast that would be a dream come true

[@savk_angels]

Could the new conductor be Dr. Chioma Esi-Maya’s research friend who watched her die?? I just did the side quest: Veil Containment and Chioma (Maya’s friend) at the end of her logs decided to turn herself over the the Vex and leave everyone behind Soooooo could it be her?

[@requiemsoul2671]

The body looks like a mix between a vex and an exo

[@FenrisTheWolfofDoom]

Solar rocket sidearm seems like a legendary special ammo sunshot

[@darkhelmet12e47]

2:33 Damn that's crazy

[@TCrimson05t]

Everybody keeps talking about whisper & caydes retribution. But the solar sniper rifle that is about to be nasty that I'm so glad I kept..... Is the Ikelos with fourth time's the charm and high caliber rounds. Combine these perks with a solar Buddy..... Looks like meat is back on the menu boys.

[@monsieuralex974]

I casually found out I have an Ikelos SR with the perk Under-over in my vault. Well... that will be one less weapon to farm 😋

[@solidusprime0077]

Hear me out here. They are building to something massive where the conductor along with others once enemies turned allies to go up against an immense foe setting up for the next cannon expansion 🤯

[@waltermercado9152]

Yes, its Lakshmi (aka maya). The character was leaked over a week ago. Youre welcome.

[@sergiogonzalez5140]

Oh nobody asked thanks

[@Vex-Mythoclast]

@@sergiogonzalez5140 i asked, thank you. you dont speak for me. thanks walter.

[@sergiogonzalez5140]

@@Vex-Mythoclast you didn’t ask anything lol you gave us a leak we didn’t ask for, so again, nobody asked thanks

[@TheStevec91]

Next yearly dlc vex home world

[@Jodicus]

When they said Future War Cult...I didn't think we meant this!

[@charlesrex3821]

There are a few sleepers. Clovis brey or maybe it is Failsafe

[@ziltax8666]

It scorched and shattered... Also waiting to see how the conductor might be relevant to the stasis weapons having a musical instrument look.

[@michaelhuie5878]

Unless they retconned the Vex lore all units excluding Wyverns aren't their military force. The Goblins, Hobgoblins, Harpies, Minotaurs and Hydras are only the work force. Only known Vex military unit is the Wyvern.

[@oots4790]

As a player since launch of lightfall. Is the difference in design of the vex that the conductor raises seriously not noteworthy? The helm design for them is so cool and different.

[@robertdavis5753]

*Conductor is just a lieutenant* Hopefully Bungie will have an exciting conclusion on the next chapter of the transformers cartoon….. maybe we have to go to Cybertron

[@downrightmike]

Sniper ignition is going to be such a hard setup. Doesn't make much sense, but hey maybe they'll just give it to any solar next season

[@roguerunner14]

Unless it’s literally confirmed somewhere, I don’t think it’s maya. The seasonal ghost, ship, and sparrow lore tabs suggest someone named Anno

[@jrahmes1]

It's 3 shots, the last is a perspective change, plus whisper

[@ringomandingo1015]

I’m just hoping the Vex stay weird and abstract. Their weird designs are kinda their main selling point and what makes them more intriguing than basic robots.

[@Adam2-13]

It was leaked already 2 weeks ago someone data mind the cutscenes and posted it on KZbin it’s the same voice actor

[@void_snw]

No fun

[@lucasblanchard47]

No thanks to a leaked cutscene I already know who The Conductor is.

[@punchline1729]

It was obvious if you knew a little bit of lore

[@boner6003]

Who is it maya

[@lucasblanchard47]

@@punchline1729 true

[@jmsanderson]

Where did you see the leak?

[@jessgrogan2348]

If it is Maya the only way I think its works is shes one the first few exos ever and that process leaving her more vex than human. Something of that sort, IMO

[@iponce2]

Maya works because she has the ego for it.

[@greenlit802]

I wish we would get a new playable class. Like give use a Fallen character that can summon Fallen Automata for supers.

[@Philusteen]

I thought the lore from Micah was interesting - that Cayde worked for Maya Sundaresh before he was an Exo.

[@BBBey]

Huh, the Precursor vex models have been around since Vault of Glass, and it never occurred to me before that they look way more “glassy” than the other Vex models. What’s strange about this is that now we know the Witness’s race are also called Precursors, and they used something called “glass minds” to get visions of the future. What they saw is unclear, but what is certain is that it had a direct influence on the choices they made afterward. What could they have learned had they seen Maya Sundaresh? Perhaps foresight is a curse after all.

[@RetroWaveDave]

Cross, just want to say much love to you and your content, hope you are well brother

[@DarkSaitama]

The last mention of TAOX is actually in the same strike we got information about MSUN12 witch is a copy of Maya on the Vex network made when humanity first encountered the vex and the vex simulated 42 different versions of the team, there's a mention of OXAT machine witch has been discussed as a possible TAOX in disguise, the PSions worshiped the OXAT machine as is referred on the Lore as a way to see posible futures that's why Kregan was searching for it but there's no description of what actually OXAT is and is a lot of a coincidence that is a play of letter for the name TAOX and the last time the Hive encounter TAOX she was helpin5the Equmeny counter the Hive forces and she help them hold back the line for 100 years until Orash became Oryx, has been debated if somehow TAOX can see the future and is why she try to kill the siblings father, flee right before the siblings came back to the surface and helped the Equmeny fight them for so long, meaning she could see all the dangers and scape them.

[@PSU221]

We need a universal ornament of The Conductor's Helm!!!

[@TheTrueAlucard]

They can do trailers... but the realization quickly ends in pure boredom...

[@briannjoroge4297]

I think she will have Lakshmi's face but voice will be someone else's. So I think the voice will be someone we know from our years or someone the witness knows or the darkness itself. Remember she is a blend creation of light and dark memories while creating its own memories from the planet itself. So we could have the voice of one of the dead captains from exodus crash or someone that had been on Nessus before but had never mentioned being there. Yet I will not assume female voice but maybe her me a male got how broken these memories are.

[@Pip-is-real2022]

I’m down for fighting Saint-14, I’ve been getting my titan fist ready for almost ten years now. As long as bungie doesn’t make him an unnecessary big character like everything else

[@DrLuigiPhd]

Breechlight with swash/demo is perfect for grapple melee builds

[@olliecrayford]

Yeah, may have spoiled this for myself two weeks ago when someone of yt leaked the conductor

[@HerSilentAce]

Crazy thing is if you look in the right parts of KZbin....these scenes have been leaked already lol

[@overlordainz8122]

All the vex in game now are just front line soldiers, we have not seen the upper hierarchy of the vex yet

[@harshitverma2951]

You just know Asher is gonna have some role somewhere lol

[@JustinPardue]

RIP in game Loadouts 7/15/2024. Starting tomorrow back to DIM loadouts that change your Artifact Perks as well. It was a nice run.

[@otakugaijin2298]

Why is Bungie pushing players to use sidearm as a primary? Sidearms are use when you out of your primary and secondary! Know the combat loadout like it should be. It's a freaking universal loadout!!!

[@MrManlnBlack]

Saint is going to kill Osiris when he’s under control. They kinda hinted towards that because Ikora said at the beginning that she didn’t want any lightless personnel to go after Saint. Saint is going to be controlled again leading us to search for him, Osiris is going to go off on his own to find him, confront him, and then be killed.

[@ProfessuhLemon]

Highly doubtful. Seems like they're building towards Saint and Osiris leaving the solar system and we follow, building to D2 Frontiers. Highly doubt they'd kill off half of one of the writers' favorite couples.

[@armoredmonkey]

we are going to fight the conductor, resolve our differences and join force THEN finalize our differences with Savathun. Destiny 3 starts with all of us united under the traveler taking over the solar system to fight a new threat. D3 incoming Eliksni, Cabal, Hive, and Vex added to character choice creations.

[@xCleverton]

i think bungie is pulling a mataidoxia on us with the new artifact. it could just be the new artifact will scorch targets on precision hits, so 4x precision hit will cause a ignition

[@xlordxsidiousx6661]

It's been leaked already. It's the same actress. And yes, it is Maya.

[@ChasTango]

I think it might be Lakshmi back for vengeance

[@dianayoder1285]

What if the conductor isn't maya, what if they go for a big twist and the conductor is .......... Failsafe. She's pissed cause we left her alone and she wants off nessus. If you think about during the final black and white cut scene, Bungie shows a bunch of vex in failsafe's section of the ship. It could have just been done to preview where we were going next, but what if she called them there?

[@MrTardy-bk3lm]

Left over echo of Osiris left in the infinite forest maybe?