New England Patriots firing Jerod Mayo after one year is ‘mismanagement’ | PSNFF | NFL on NBC

[@kman8749]

Belichick said it perfectly, it takes about 3 years for a coach to effectively build their program. This is the NFL not the NBA

[@sksnnsksnsnsbsbb]

patriots fire a 8 time super bowl coach for a trash wanna he coach , what did u expect

[@Henry18845]

3 years only when the level of achievement trending upwards.. Mayo doesn't even know how to conduct interviews properly.. Mayo continues to throw players under the bus and has clues of what's going on most of the time

[@MrAtlass77]

@Henry18845 Trending upwards?! You must have missed the several points in the video where they list off LEGENDARY coaches who started with poor records. All good and great things take time. Actual factual.

[@kman8749]

@sksnnsksnsnsbsbb personally, I miss Belichick and disagree with him being pushed out. I also thought Vrabel was a better replacement than Mayo. This was a poor plan by the Krafts. While, I'm okay with Vrabel coming in, the Krafts gave up on their plan early. Both things can be true. If they knew this season was going to be rough, knew it was going to take time, and still did this to Jerod, then Im not sure what they were thinking to begin with. I'm tired of idiotic knee jerk reactions because fans want a mcdonalds solution and have little patience. Simplistic views irritate me.

[@DemocratsUnite]

@@kman8749 black coaches don’t get that luxury

[@charlielan9287]

Robert Kraft has no idea what to do without Belichick. Man's just gonna keep cycling through ex-Pats players until he runs out of coaches to hire and fire.

[@smaga3507]

Bob Kraft the nit wit dip and clown🤡

[@highnrising]

Does everybody forget that it was going downhill in Brady's last year in New England, and after Brady left, it got worse. Belichick was a disaster in 2023. People were demanding and expecting him to be fires if he didn't retire.

[@36ELGALAN]

@highnrising thank you for the facts, the team has sucked at player personnel since Scott Pioli left the team it's been a sinking ship since the last couple of years Brady was there, there draft picks have been more misses than hits and there free agent signings have been laughable at times

[@MikeySkywalker]

And Belichick has no clue what to do without Brady.

[@dkolle3446]

it was bad WITH bill and while he's a great (defensive minded) coach he got carried by an all-time qb (you could argue almost every great coach was) who was able to cover up for all the wrong decisions made by bill. Problem with bill was he started to think he's such a great genius which was easy to think bc look how his draft choices got assessed by the media when he was (in the end horrible) reaching for players. If not for his success any other coach would've gotten let go much earlier and the facts are clear: the qb he thought wasn't that great anymore went to another team to win it all while the pats went downhill and in the end got the #3 pick to select drake maye for a reason!

[@syminite1]

Not a single coach in Nfl history could've done anything with this roster.

[@jhova6542]

He was a stop gap and that fanbase never accepted him “ in that position”

[@S.T.G43]

@@syminite1 they probably wouldn't have accepted the roster in the first place. That's why they hired him. Straight took advantage of the man.

[@johnmccann1960]

Imagine if the Lions had sacked Dan Campbell after his 1st season with a 3-13-1 record. 1 season ain't gonna do it. I have the feeling they were gonna sack him anyway.

[@amck72]

Players, ex players and long term journalists are sick and tired of these NFL coaches putting black coaches on a very short lease and finally speaking up.

[@S.T.G43]

This was done on purpose they should have never hired him in the first place.

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

They hired him cause he was a core player part of the Brady bellichick era

[@JACK.DEATH-Sariel]

D.E.I. and he didn't earn it.

[@xman9190]

​​@JACK.DEATH-Sariel How will Mike Vrabel have "earned it "?

[@S.T.G43]

@@Frankieefootballmundial and gave him only one year with no talent 🤔

[@S.T.G43]

@@xman9190 the people who are screaming DEI are letting you know who they are. BELIEVE THEM.

[@normantashash1617]

As a Patriots season ticket holder who bought tickets in 1994 after the team went 1 and 15, I disagree with how management came to this decision. If the Krafts were not committed to letting Mayo build something then why didn’t you interview other candidates instead of anointing Jerod Mayo as coach. Management set him up to fail then blamed him when things didn’t go well. No good manager who is worth their salt would ever set an employee up to fail then walk away the way the Krafts did. It’s a bad look and poor decision.

[@bradleydame287]

Pats were 1-15 in 1990, so your timeline may be a bit off. I agree that Mayo was set up to fail. The Krafts are the problem here. That being said, I believe that it was the right decision to let him go under these circumstances. This team needs a complete reset.

[@DG18RB]

Kraft and Bellichick are the true reasons why this team is where its at right now. No coach in the league, not Reid, not Harbaugh, not even Vrabel could have done much better than the 4wins they got this year.

[@nexigram]

Yeah I get that this is Rodney's former teammate so I'll give him a pass on this, but the reasons Mayo needed to be fired had nothing to do with the record.

[@Lonnyboss70]

You can’t build nothing in one season. This was “BS”!

[@marquisehicks2677]

@@Lonnyboss70straight bs and they know the fans ran mayo outta time being impatient and realistic

[@GabeDaniels-m5b]

@@marquisehicks2677He stinks end of story. He had the same team as Bill last year and had the same record but it was worse than it shows. The GM and coordinators are horrible as well they all need to go not just mayo. Mayo throws his team under the bus when it really falls on him and the people he hired . It was never going to work and we’re already 4 years after Brady. And he’s been to two super bowls since then. This is New England we’re not waiting for Mayo to take the training wheels off

[@palereaper]

One Super Bowl

[@Stephenwhite013]

You guys didn’t listen to a single thing Tony and Rodney said

[@ImperialStorm96X]

The mismanagement was choosing Mayo in the first place instead of doing a proper coaching search. Yes, he was put in a bad situation and expectations were low with this team to begin with but this is more so Kraft admitting that handing Mayo the job purely because he was "Bill's heir apparent" was more about favoritism towards a player he loves instead of a smart football decision. He tried to convince everyone that it was a good decision and that idea faded quickly as the losses continued to pile up. I'll always respect Mayo as a player, but he simply didn't look like he knew what he was doing as a coach and it showed. It's easy to look at them firing Mayo so quickly as a red flag but the real red flag was giving Mayo such a difficult job without coaching experience in the first place.

[@jcrespo0510]

That had DEI hired written all over. Hate to say that put it is true.

[@joemom1012]

i said it before ill say it again kraft is 83 years old his son will eventually fully take over yet right now seems they work together surely 2 heads could by tricky one says ill have mayo not all in on him say other but ill give the benefit of the doubt ok enough he's not working out you both argue eventually the one didn't want mayo in first place has reason to try it his way now they wernt both all in on mayo

[@daweeza42]

If you factor in been drafted by the organization, playing 8 years with the Pats, assistant coach 5 years, etc. Respectfully it's unfair to say choosing Mayo was mismanagement. I mean dam smh they've known the guy almost 20 years lol. I mean you don't have to like him as a coach, but he most certainly earned his stripes for an opportunity. They will bring in Mike Vrabal, and I don't blame them. They clearly know Mike well, but he's proven as a good coach so I get it. Of course they did Mayo wrong, but it's business and he'll take this on the chin and move forward to other opportunities.

[@Blackman19498]

@@jcrespo0510 you probably want to understand what DEI is before you start running off at the mouth, you just sound silly..

[@jeanpaul7223]

Black coaches need to access what jobs they interview for.

[@Mr921kevin]

This is why I love these 2 Black Guys they SPEAK THERE MINDS.😊

[@vt3649]

Mayo wasn’t fire for their record. He was fired for the culture he created and his nonprofessionalism. Rodney said it best. They should have never hired him in the first place.

[@DreSnake8468]

Wat non-professionalism?

[@jonathangtinsai1358]

​@@DreSnake8468mayo was calling players out and said stupid things like "the players are soft" to the media .. like if he was always going things right and never was wrong ..

[@cajunrcfamily6188]

@@DreSnake8468 Wat

[@KingJRZJ]

@@jonathangtinsai1358 That's how a lot of old school coachers were and it wasn't a problem until the last decade.

[@changingworldllc1157]

Wrong ! He was fired because krafts sucks! They are making terrible decisions! They have been for years now! Has nothing to do with mayo!

[@nathanjm000]

He was fired for winning the last game and costing us Travis Hunter

[@madboyreadynow28]

Why hire someone if you won't allow them the time to put together a winning team?

[@jman1562001]

Sounds like a DEI hire 🤔. Mayo had little to no say in staff or personell on the field. Just slapped these guys together and said make it work smh. And the outcome turned out the same. Vrabel has is work cut out for him.

[@Woozie87]

The issue wasn’t firing him after one year the issue was hiring Mayo to begin with. He’s too green and Mayes too good to just try to develop a Head Coach while we’re trying to develop a franchise QB at the same time.

[@madboyreadynow28]

@@Woozie87 I don’t think Mike V is the answer either. I would hire Aaron Glenn and get a very good offensive coordinator to run the offense. That was the formula for the past 21 years.

[@pearl0818]

​@@jman1562001can you all stop using that term out of context. That implies DEI policies support unqualified people getting jobs over qualified and that's not the case.

[@companyman6208]

@@jman1562001the new raycist buzzwords, DEI and Woke.

[@777tmack]

This feels like a throwaway year for the Patriots, which is probably why they went with Mayo in the first place. If they were serious about a long-term replacement, why not hire Mike Vrabel last season? Now, if they bring in Vrabel, he’s replacing Jerod Mayo, not Bill Belichick. It’s all about lowering the stakes for the next guy.

[@36ELGALAN]

Every year since Brady left the team has been a throw away year, at least they now have 2 Quarterbacks and a corner back they can build off of

[@larrymosher5045]

The throw away is beating the Bill's, when you were losing in the third quarter. Just run the ball, take the loss, and get the number one pick.

[@GabeDaniels-m5b]

They already had an agreement in place with mayo. They couldn’t “just hire” vrabel last year.

[@amjtddjgb]

This move was un-patriotic in every way… so glad I was never a fan of this team

[@jayy88]

They did the same thing with Cam Newton after Brady. Send in the lackey to take the beating. It’s pathetic

[@nyumupuvmmpa5172]

Did they feel that way about other 1 and done in last 10 years Hue Jackson, Las Vegas Raiders, 2011 Mike Mularkey, Jacksonville Jaguars, 2012 Rob Chudzinkski, Cleveland Browns, 2013 Jim Tomsula, San Francisco 49ers, 2015 Chip Kelly, San Francisco 49ers, 2016 Steve Wilks, Arizona Cardinals, 2018 Freddie Kitchens, Cleveland Browns, 2019 Urban Meyer, Jacksonville Jaguars, 2021 David Culley, Houston Texans, 2021 Nathaniel Hackett, Denver Broncos, 2022 Lovie Smith, Houston Texans, 2022 Frank Reich, Carolina Panthers, 2023

[@choossuck7653]

Depends on their skin color

[@jrg5315]

Exactly, as a Texans fan. Nobody cared about Lovie being fired

[@ItsMeBondsy]

Yall stay reaching, many of these guys were equal griped about. Tired of you dumb ax fans

[@macdreezy6658]

C'mon, Kelly, Meyer, Hackett HAD to go

[@Karl105-b3e]

@@ItsMeBondsyLook in the mirror dude.

[@chickennuggets8022]

1) The defense regressed horribly 2) The culture took a nose dive (lack of accountability) 3) Communication mishaps You're right. They should have never hired him, and it was not a great situation. With all that being said, what got better? What was a positive thing you could point to that was a result of Jerod or his staff? Emotional responses here.

[@HoodedAlchemy]

The defense didn't regress they just played starting QBs this years unlike last year

[@vladimirjackson1272]

Nothing you've said matters because no matter WHO you put in there, it takes more than 1 year! Maybe those guys are NOT the guys he thinks he needs to play in his system! EVERYONE deserves more than 1 year, PERIOD!

[@jhova6542]

Barely regressed means nothing…I can point to a bunch of offensive or defensive coaches who struggled for multiple years.

[@iloveyoumadhuri]

Although Jerod Mayo was never highly qualified - fewer than 10 years of coaching experience and never was a coordinator or head coach at the NCAA or NFL level beforehand - to be the head coach of the new New England Patriots, the Patriots failed him and the team more than he did vice versa. If Bill Belichick was going to be succeeded, a person with head coaching experience or a high degree of coordinator experience would have been more appropriate. However, if this was Jeff Saturday the way he was coaching at the Colts - no prior NCAA or NFL coaching experience beforehand, the fans would all throw a pity party for him. It’s true.

[@jrg5315]

Team did NOT fail him. He called them softies why tf would anyone want to play for that dude anyway

[@Tee24-r9j]

There's a Clear Difference between Black and White Coaches, now people who dont know can see it

[@Rickman897]

No it’s a clear difference between competent coaching. Race has nothing to do with it. The Patriots did the same with Rod Rust after 1990.

[@andresnoneya]

I respect 🫡 Rodney for keeping it 💯

[@HLDN1989]

This is absolute nonsense. The stands at Gillette are half empty, and the coach is getting booed out the building. No one expected the Pats to be a playoff team, but they have been unwatchable on both sides of the ball for the entire season. Mayo lost the locker room, the fanbase and the local media. Has to go!

[@Lonnyboss70]

Let the man to have a chance to build a team up first!! One season is “BS”!

​@@Lonnyboss70life isn't fair he wasn't fired because of the record it was the effort on the field defense regressed big time and he threw players and coaches under the bus he made his bed now he can lay in it.

[@slothkng]

They didn't have anything to work with talent wise to begin with the team sucked as a whole and everyone except craft apparently knew it

[@Lonnyboss70]

@ that’s BS everything doesn’t happen overnight, see NE fans was spoiled for years with Brady and those teams winning all the time that’s all!

[@SoupThaFisherman]

Elliot wolf is the problem. He's in charge of player personnel. He's the reason the roster is bad. It's Elliot Wolf's fault

[@rickfromboston]

Rodney is correct, Kraft hired Mayo with no head coach or coordinator experience. He’s linebacker coach for four years then he’s head coach. Kraft agreeing to the deal with Mayo to keep him on the staff and make him head coach on Belichicks departure is indeed mismanagement. Didn’t think they would fire him here but they shouldn’t have hired him in the first place. Kraft is going to take some heat for this and it’s well deserved.

[@CCTH2221-lp2zj]

I’m with Rodney why hire Mayo if you’re not giving him a chance to turn it around…

[@iloveyoumadhuri]

True or why hire him when he wasn’t even as qualified as Ben McAdoo or Bill O’Brien.

[@lukemoloney1113]

Mayo couldn't turn around a lemonade stand. He's a MLB, that's it

[@d00rs71]

cause this year they were still paying Bill B so Mayo was cheap its not hard..now they get a real coach

[@jamesboudreau2121]

@@CCTH2221-lp2zj Rodney is just sticking up for his friend. If you look objectively at how bad the Patriots were and how little progress was made. Giving Mayo another year was ridiculous.

[@alistairfannell6694]

@@d00rs71Good point

[@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly]

*_Jerod Mayo was always a lame duck until the Patriots could lure Mike Vrabel back_*

[@soulpatrolhawaii5409]

I don't think u can fault Mayo and staff for this year Bill left a mess behind- least talented roster in the league with the toughest schedule What did you expect in his first year? Lots of fans with unrealistic expectations, imo Spoiled by the Brady years

[@zayinghui6282]

Yea here’s what these analysts aren’t mentioning: -He had multiple media blunders -mishandling of benching of Stevenson and lying about it -multiple players coming out essentially saying they aren’t being coached -watch the tape he handled key red zone or important drives horribly -Mayo isn’t the next Dungy or belichick He LOST the lockeroom

[@Jakery1057]

Stop comparing Mayo to Dan Campbell. Campbell was a interim head coach and a coordinator. Mayo has never been either. He didn't even have enough connections to fill out his coaching staff, Eliiot Wolfe had to help him. Yes Kraft is at fault though for promising him a job he was nowhere near ready for. He admitted his mistake and moved on.

[@Kliff-v9l]

Soft Is what you are

[@C007MiamiMoods]

Yet they still had similar records their first year is what they meant!

[@jeo8998]

- Terrible coaching - Terrible post game conference and kept back tracking the next day - Won a game we all knew we needed to lose - We got worse on defense when we had a top 10 defense even when we were losing

[@AskMOTT]

I respect that they got out when they see an opportunity for a better option and I think Vrabel is a better option as he has more experience as a head coach. He was given a chance, and he didn't do well, more on. He seems like a really good dude, but it was really bad season, couldn't even lose properly on the last game of the year.

[@robertpesa4157]

It just shows you how much Bill was running things. They send him away, and no one knows what to do 😂

[@angelvalle6515]

Bingo 💪

[@robertschoelerman7496]

Patriots sucked with belecheck also after Brady left don't act like he didn't get fired

[@jburnett180]

What happens when the next coach gets the same record or worst???

[@GiftedonesVS]

He keeps his job

[@tigerhoods7927]

They going make excuses for him lol

[@ItsMeBondsy]

It'll be fine bcus its Vrabel, he's white and NE fans can support that.... they'll make excuses that he was left with Mayo roster but wont acknowledge Mayo was left with Bills roster and they'll bank promise on the QB that Mayo drafted but wasn't given an entire year to play with

[@HardCold-Alquan]

@@ItsMeBondsy Yep. Boston and Indiana are the Alabamas of the north!

[@ashi2483]

These owners doesn’t understand all they see is money sign.

[@ErickP3768]

If the Pats had kept Mayo for 2 more years and they were still bad all you guys would be saying you should have moved on a while ago. Last year a bunch of teams were interested in Mayo if you guys think he got an unfair shake then put it out there to the owners or GM to give Mayo another shot and if he succeeds with another team the pats will look like fools.

[@WeAreNotSheep2023]

Rodney is correct. Kraft should've never made him a HC. It took a year for Kraft to realize that but it looks bad.

[@danielruiz1750]

That’s what he gets for “Seeing color” 😂

[@HardCold-Alquan]

Well, The Patriots saw color...

[@DT2024andBeyound]

Facts!!!!! Now he sees a pink slip 😂😂😂😂😂 Definitely a DEI hire for sure

[@DT2024andBeyound]

@@HardCold-Alquan 😂😂😂😂😂and I hope they hire a white man

[@HardCold-Alquan]

@@DT2024andBeyound Of course they will, and of course you do. I guess all whytes don't qualify for DEI huh?

[@sugarman9323]

I don’t think Rodney has been playing close attention to how poorly Mayo has performed this year.

[@Blackman19498]

You know better than him?

[@RobTheSeer]

​@Blackman19498 he's an insider😂

[@changingworldllc1157]

Not just mayo! The krafts have been terrible owners for years now! You think next year will be better!??? NO!!!!!

[@ItsMeBondsy]

Now all of a sudden the black Patriot Legend hasn't been paying close attention to the team he won super bowls with and the Black Patriot superbowl Legend shouldn't have been the coach of the team to begin with?? got it

[@HardCold-Alquan]

You cannot give a coach 1 year on a bad team and expect anything but losing.

[@rayzur1076]

they don't owe mayo anything, nobody is promised anything in the NFL. Remember we cant see what goes on in the locker room and behind closed doors. they should have never hired him in the first place, he had no experience to be a HC, especially when you have a rookie qb you are trying to develop.

[@Miroslaw-rs8ip]

As a Patriots fan for several decades I’m disappointed with the Kraft decision! Mayo wasn’t ready but it wasn’t his fault since he didn’t have the experience and he was given a pathetic team with no talent! Honestly Wolf the GM has to go because the drafting was pathetic and the skill assessment was pathetic.

[@changingworldllc1157]

I totally agree!

[@Kliff-v9l]

Mayo's hiring in the 1st place was merely a PR stunt. No coach Could have came in And made this team a winner because they don't have any talent. Bill belichick couldn't even do it lol

[@bnegs521]

I love that Harrison is upset. 😂😂😂

[@cd5642]

The moment he basically called Kraft racist at the introduction press conference, he was doomed. Lucky Kraft didn’t fire him on the spot.

[@bobbymcdonald6121]

He is clown.

[@tellall23]

Mayo was always a stopgap, to give Vraby one more year to recover. Mike Vrabel to be the next head coach 100%

[@changingworldllc1157]

Ok, just making stuff up?? lol why not? More delusional pats fans for the krafts to use

[@DWoodsII]

Idk why ppl think Vrabel is going to change things around in the first year. They’ll have another top 5 pick the following year.

[@Bigwave2003]

What was Jerod Mayo's great strength? Mayo isn't a strategist or play caller. He has undisciplined players on and off the field. Whenever he talks to the press he puts his foot in his mouth. His communication with coaches and players doesn't seem to get through. And there was no growth or progress as a team through the year. Mayo needed to go.

Finally someone that sees it correctly it wasn't about the record he was fired for the gaffes the missteps and the effort on the field.

[@pedrohippocaus8488]

Exactly.Big time pats and ut fan.Followed Jerod through the recruiting process at ut and was stoked the Patriots drafted him.Had high hopes for him as a coach but they started dwindling after his first press conference.

[@larrymosher5045]

Mayo's best strength: his agent.

[@arthurraygotit]

These guys are talking heads at the national level. They don’t pay attention to the Pats unless they are good and consistently in the headlines. Not shocked they have these completely uniformed takes.

[@williambarclay6050]

So smart guys who u gonna bring in with them trash players we got it would take the good lord himself to make that trash we putting on the field successful

[@HHHPedigrees]

Glad he pulled a Lovie Smith on them

[@SHOOTDASHIT-ko1lw]

All the wannabe coaches have entered the chat...the comment section is the dumbest place on KZbin

[@xguudaxcoax4560]

Says the guy who added nothing to it but a bunch of whining.

[@tigerhoods7927]

😂😂 that’s for every team sport swear they know what’s best

[@freshprince7999]

Man I feel ya

[@matthewfitzpatrick5072]

These national guys clearly haven't followed the Pats closely... and I don't blame them. BUT in the statement the owners expected improvement and the team got worse as the season went on. Just this week players called fans spoiled and later backed up their comments - it felt like Mayo was in over his head, had no experienced coaches around him, and started to lose the locker room. It can be unfair and the right call at the same time. They have the QB and need to capitalize on this window, but it became clear this was too early for him to be a HC.

[@Slibby1981]

Once TomBrady left Bill Belicheik couldn’t save the Patriots so how u think Jerod Mayo wit a rookie QB and mediocre talent go improve that team

[@dc2b20vtec]

The players weren't lying though, I have been a pats fan since 95, pats fans are some of the most spoiled, racist fans I have ever seen in any sport

[@dc2b20vtec]

They better fire vrabel after next season also if he don't make the playoffs

[@skywalkerlegend1804]

​@dc2b20vtec no one expects playoffs lol.. expectations will be the same next year as they were this year, and that was to win a few more games than last year, and look like you're improving towards the end of the season.

[@dc2b20vtec]

@skywalkerlegend1804 nah I'm expecting playoffs, don't try and lower the bar now that yall got rid of the guy you didn't want, now all of a sudden it's gonna be ok to be a losing team in a rebuild

[@ThemePro24]

No, he shouldn't have been hired to begin with and Mayo knows EXACTLY why he was hired. He didn't earn it.

[@jaredscott6653]

He looked lost, poor game management and planning

[@shaheemtaylor960]

Ownership is just spoiled. After having Tom Brady paired with Bill Belichick for 20 years of winning they can’t understand it’s over now. Have to rebuild. You don’t just find a Tom Brady or Bill Belichick at random those were two legends of the game hard to replace Gronk Brady rest of them boys. It takes time

[@iluvinternalcombustion]

Forget about all the lack of talent talk, Mayo had no control over the players. A team with no talent can still be disciplined. They committed the same mental errors throughout the entire season, there was no upwards trajectory, nothing improved even in the slightest. The players openly bashed the fans - the ones who pay their salary. What did Mayo show this season that would give you any confidence next season would be different?

[@jayy88]

Vrabels last 2 years in Tennessee they were 28th and 26th in penalties. But everyone likes him so nobody will talk about it. So much for caring about discipline right?

[@darnellharris111]

What people don’t understand is that it’s not about the wins and losses it’s about the progress of the players and the culture

[@emersonmurray9531]

Hello Brian Flores thank u Tony Dungy

[@mainemtg2511]

Mike Vrabel is not the savior, he is available for a reason

[@JohnnySack16]

What reason is that

[@marquisehicks2677]

I keep saying that

[@Kingdizzleltdinc615]

He available cause our owner in Tennessee is the problem,have you seen the Titans culture without him?6 seasons,AFC Championship game,2 division titles,got stripped of all his talent,2 bad seasons and our owner decided it wasn’t good enough.And now it’s worse,he definitely wasn’t the problem..

[@mainemtg2511]

@Kingdizzleltdinc615 the talent pool in New England is not there neither but

[@joemom1012]

there are other teams interviewing Vrabel if its him they want then they will have too rush and beat out the competition and you should never rush heiring a coach i think they learned that with mayo

[@CALLMEVladdy]

Vrabel should just go somewhere else just to see what happens 😂

[@cperkins5050]

We already seen him do nothing with the Titans and they had more talent than the Patriots.

[@SeiyaSoiya-un4jj]

Let’s be honest: There’s no such thing as the “Patriot Way”. This franchise sucked for 40 years, then they got a good coach and lucked into Tom Brady who was very fortunate to be playing in a time where the rules favored QBs. That’s it. They can now go back to being a bumbling franchise that almost had to move to St Louis due to dwindling fan support.

[@GurtonBuster07]

You can’t erase 20 years of dominance the nfl has never seen before buddy lol. Btw the patriots way is the bill belichick way, the greatest head coach in nfl history lol you better bow down greatness the nfl franchise with the GOAT player and GOAT coach, the greatest franchise in the NFL buddy.

[@adzisme]

@@GurtonBuster07And look at it now.

[@loxleygregory3597]

The Brady Way!

[@marquisehicks2677]

@@adzismebingo

[@Slibby1981]

@@GurtonBuster07patriot way only worked because of TomBrady and his sacrifices same as the SanAntontio Spurs they worked because of TimDuncan

[@IanSCastro]

Tony Dungy knows his stuff so well. I kinda wish he’d go back to coaching.

[@lotso1776]

Tom Landry, Dan Campbell, Jimmy Johnson, etc. they name guys that had so much experience before getting their HC position. Mayo was a linebacking coordinator and an assistant to Steve Belichick. The guy wasn’t ready, it was as clear as day. Yes we should blame Kraft, because he should have never been in that position in the first place. But to keep Mayo as HC would be foolish, he isn’t ready.

[@ItsMeBondsy]

What experience did Dan Campbell have? besides being a back up TE?... if you're racist just say that. Let me guess, Vrabel was a better Linebacker and had loads of experience before he became Titans coach

[@trevelc723]

@@ItsMeBondsy Campbell had double the years as position coach and was an interim head coach in Miami. They are not comparable.

[@petetiernan7153]

@@ItsMeBondsy you could probably just look up Dan Campbell to learn he was an interim head coach at Miami and 4 year Assistant Head Coach under Sean Payton.

[@codysias2265]

@@ItsMeBondsy Well lets see, Dan Campbell had been a head coach in the interim before, he had been a position coach for almost a decade, and was the assistant HC with Sean Payton for several years...WAYYYY MORE QUALIFIED Vrabel had been a successful coach in multiple locations before getting a HC spot, and went 9-7 his first season and missed the playoffs by 1 game

[@MrHnic95]

Nobody said that about joe judge when he 1st got hired

[@dirtyrandy2592]

Robert Kraft is used to success. Patriots fans are used to success. They don’t know how to deal with multiple losing seasons. They panicked. Mike Vrabel has better options.

[@carlosprediger1922]

What no one is talking about is that the Kraft’s where basically forced to hire Jerod because DEI what at its height and the Boston sports media had already decided that it had to be Jerod Mayo . Well, it backfired . At first it made the Krafts look good until it totally collapsed. I do not blame Jerod , he did what he could and the Krafts didn’t do much to support him in terms of getting some good players. If a DEI hire is in the government or a private company , no problem, they can cover it up but in a sports team you can’t hide the numbers. I like Jerod but I just don’t believe he was ready for this job yet but I think that he has a lot of potential to be a great coach in the NFL in a few years. Thanks.

[@polandfresh101]

Hiring him in the first place was the “mismanagement.” Thank you Robert Kraft for ending the error.

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

Why can Kraft sell the team he’s like 85 years old

[@JohnW9012]

If they hire Vrabel or someone else, and the win/loss record is no better, are they going to fire that coach after one year?

[@Bigwave2003]

Depends if it's moving in the right direction growing pains or a total trainwreck like this year.

Vrabel won't throw coaches and players under the bus.

[@jeff3putt]

To put it simply, the team wasn’t getting better and they have a QB whole has a lot of potential,… They should’ve hired Vrabel in the first place

[@All-purpose]

I think they made a mistake. New England isn't all that talented, especially offensively. With all that going on, they competed. The Pats lost 8 games by one score, so that tells me he could get those players to compete. What would have happened if they actually had good players?

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

Since Brady left the patriots they have been garbage

[@All-purpose]

@Frankieefootballmundial indeed. It takes time to rebuild after having greatness for so long. Brady was very important, but there were a lot of other good players on those Patriot teams. Those defenses don't get quite as much credit as they should.

[@LeaveMyFreedomBe]

There is more too it. I'm betting we have not heard the real motivation.

[@josephbrennan4921]

The mistake was hiring Mayo in the first place. He just wasn’t ready through no fault of his own. The job too big for him. Mayo needs seasoning outside of the Pats bubble. Work as an assistant for 3-5 years. Assistants under BB have not fared well as HCs bc all decisions flowed through BB. This wasn’t a heathy training environment for future HCs.

[@jackmeoff9116]

So If the Next Coach is 4-13 in 2025, Do you fire Him??

[@OhGummy]

No, the mismanagement was hiring Mayo to begin with without conducting a single interview of anyone else. The mismanagement was winning against Buffalo when a loss guaranteed the first overall pick. The mismanagement was having your successor coach lined up for YEARS and it was a guy that didn’t have a day of experience. Firing Mayo and acknowledging their mistake this quickly is the first competent thing the Patriots have done all year.

[@DevinktTV]

The fact was Maye showed too much promise and he showed more growth in a season than the head coach. I am glad they admitted the mistake early

[@ForgeFloyd]

Tony dungey hits the nail on the head

[@petetiernan7153]

Suggest the thread needs to change its perspective. Keep in mind that when there term is thrown out that Mayo was “fired”, he is still going to receive his guaranteed contract. He most likely has at least $3.5m-$7m still coming his way. The root cause to this situation is Mayo supposedly had a buyout clause of $10m in his assistant coach contract that guaranteed he would succeed BB. Terrible arrangement, and explains why the Patriots didn’t do a comprehensive search. Having seen him in action, the Krafts must have been convinced that Mayo wasn’t going to get them to the playoffs. So much so that they are willing to forfeit the balance of time and money on Mayo’s deal.

[@blueblood723]

Believe in the process, that's why it's called such. If incompetence was an issue, then you never did your homework on this guy.

[@disaster1100able]

At least the broadcast didn't cut them off mid conversation like what happened to gronk

[@stevenfanale4553]

Tom Brady should be the coach of the New England Patriots!!!!!!!!!!

[@timdavis5078]

I am a diehard pacers fan and did not agree with with Mayo hire nothing against Tim, but that was a towel task for someone who’s never been a head coach given the shape we were in completely rebuilding we have nobody no team really but it went like I expected pretty much. We basically finish with the same record or close to it. We have the last four years so it shocked me to hear this I would like to see Tom Brady become the head coach. I think he would make an amazing head coach not just saying it because his record but he basically coached and carried the team for the last decade. Not saying Bill Belichick was a bad coach. I just think times have changed and slowly passing him by. I think Brady is able to get the most out of the people around him. He’s smart. He’s able to get people in and free agents because he don’t necessary look at the stats, kinda like him he knows what it takes to be a great player. I really think Brady could come in and within two years.We could resemble what we had the last decade but I know Brady has gave so much over the last 20 years. It’s time for him to enjoy his life and family. He has a great deal with Fox. but God, I would love to see him coaching

[@nicholasvandal6948]

As a Bostonian I’m torn. I loved Jerod as a player and as a person who was dealt with a wicked bad hand. However………it seems like he couldn’t handle the big job, and I get it. Dan Campbell also had a team that WAS IMPROVING WEEKLY. They lost A TON OF DOG FIGHTS……we got WORSE…..

[@streamedbrian]

lol year one with the worst oline in the league and a rookie qb… there was no chance to improve if you get fired😭

[@DWoodsII]

No o line, no WRs and a rookie QB. They fired Mayo because they were worried about the fans. Good luck to the next coach taking over that sh** show

[@mtizzm]

@@streamedbrian The Oline sucked because of their lack of discipline which comes down to terrible coaching. The amount of false starts and holds in key points in games alone we would have been 500 this year. The air on the sideline is of a funeral all year as Mayo mopes around with a lost look on his face. Oh and BTW did we just get routed 40-7 by the team MAYO gave Ladd to so that we could get Stonehands Polk? Yeah, bye bye, you won't be missed. I loved him as a player as well, but he's a defensive coordinator at best.

[@streamedbrian]

@@nicholasvandal6948Dan campbell had Holmes at Gm( Holmes built the rams SB team)😂😂 Jerrod Mayo had Erik wolf who’s been on the pats since Bill… besides drake maye what good talent has wolf drafted to be coached up his whole time in new england??

[@andresalderete]

It is different Robert Kraft when you dont have a Parcells or Belichick coach, right?

[@changingworldllc1157]

Bingo! And it won’t end anytime soon!

[@andresalderete]

@@changingworldllc1157 I think Kraft got spoiled with winning just as jerry jones. Both think it is easy but is not and both need an scapegoat to blame

[@changingworldllc1157]

@@andresalderete bro! yes! i agree.. exactly right! do you think things will get better anytime soon? or more like years of mediocre football? to me it looks like pats are going down the path of jerry jones and woody..

[@leonrollins1107]

A lot of the Fans believe the guy was a DEI hire and never gave the guy a chance

[@gj5990]

Hiring the man was mismanagement. He was hired for the wrong reasons.

[@DevinktTV]

Everyone is focusing on the record but that is not the reason he got fired. It was his lack of game planning. Every win came on the back of his rookie qb

[@albertwhittaker6385]

Maybe Mayo was actually a bad coach in the locker room as well. The players didn’t like him 🤷‍♂️ but at the end of the day he lost when he was supposed to win and win when he was supposed lose

[@DetroitTyler]

It's clear Kraft wanted him to tank. Mayo most likely refused to tank won the game and got himself fired. Remember Mayo was a good former player and doesn't need money. So he most likely stood on principle and didn't want to take a dive which cost him his job. I 100% believe this to be the case.

[@jordankibbee3441]

@DetroitTyler I agree, and regardless, it was better for everyone to lose moving forward, so I understand the management you want someone who is committed present and future unfortunately that win is worse than the 13 loses that they had before it

[@larryshelby8584]

Not true Kraft wanted to tank and keep Mayo the fans ran him out of town the win was done on purpose so Mayo won't walk out like a loser even if it meant the number 1 pick.

[@wny9521]

100% Lose this game or you're fired! ok we won boss. Ok you're fired! Simple as dat!

[@jrg5315]

Well, principle cost the number 1 draft pick

[@richardjimenez4496]

ever since we figured out that it wasn’t the Patriot way but instead the Tom Brady way, this team’s been in freefall mode.

[@36ELGALAN]

@@richardjimenez4496 reality has hit this team pretty hard

[@changingworldllc1157]

Wrong! Krafts undermine Bill ! This is what created the downfall of the franchise!

[@angelvalle6515]

​@@changingworldllc1157well said couldn't agree more .

[@tod3msn]

I guess it is mismanagement to pick a guy who can't manage!!

[@Mfo8776]

This is unreal honestly. Classless move

[@bigdoggames9795]

I agree. It was stone Cold without the Austin! Should of gave him another year. Maye and Stevenson are the two best players.

[@jessebartlett3637]

Well what about the Chargers they dumped a crappy coach and hire a legit one and now they are a playoff team?

[@keithhurtmer8053]

@@jessebartlett3637 True. But Staley didn’t get fired after 1 yr. He was given ample time to turn things around.

[@duvalblueboy]

Black coach in Boston. It makes sense to me. But the next white coach will get 3 years

[@JACPOT3rddd]

Fact

[@grittyshaker]

Doc Rivers is a perfect example right? Or how about Rod Rust with the Patriots?

[@raquanwilkins329]

Yup smh and I was happy for patroits

[@lukemoloney1113]

Found the racist! Typical

[@NAT-turners-Revenge]

All the bigots are out chanting DEI 😅 amongst the myriad of other HC with no nfl experience

[@Dog96Soldier]

Mayo was awful, it was the right decision

[@davidteovogel3482]

Cinco de Mayo lost the team after the Chargers game. The players were not believing in him. Not very fair to fire a guy after one year when he inherited a poor team and had a rookie QB, but the Not For Long league has never been about what is fair, it is about results. He probably deserved a second season, so I see the argument, but I also see that he appeared to lose the locker room and Kraft thought it was time to move on. Maybe they can bring in Ben Johnson.

[@marquisehicks2677]

Or kliff kingsbury

[@cperkins5050]

Leave the Lions with a wealth of talent and go to the Patriots with no talent and an unrealistic owner? No way.

[@mtizzm]

And with the 34th pick in the NFL draft, the NE Patriots trade their spot to the LA Chargers who select Ladd McConkey so that Mayo can select Stone Hands Polk. That and the funeral like atmosphere on the bench and in the locker room. The comparison people are making to Dan Campbell is infuriating! Sure, Dan had a bad record to start his career but he made great picks in the draft. He has charisma coming out of his ears, the teams loved him even when they were losing. There was something in the air that said it was only a matter of time. The air in NE right now is that of a car that has had a bucket of dead fish and vomit sitting in it for days in the hot sun.

[@Hyphen_1781]

People and Rodney saying "why hire him" It's simple read his contract they had no choice but to hire him.

[@edentheremix1011]

The logical answer is there alot of opportunities to get a talented offensive coordinator H.C who can mold a young qb into a franchise player. If they sign another defensive coordinator then you have an argument

[@prassassin2828]

I think Tavai telling the fans off and Mayo basically saying he’s sticking up for me was the last straw. Bill never let his guys run wild anytime a player got big headed he’d be gone and nothing was said about it was in house. Mayo had no vision Campbell had a vision. How many games we lost on games mismanagement.

[@jrad410]

I just don’t like the idea of firing after one season, especially with a team that was already pouting downward

[@328am]

Even Belichick would’ve ended the season 4-13. Vrabel will have the same struggles.

[@willielittle9301]

Remember... Coach Thomas Landry lost FIVE straight seasons before the Dallas Cowboys eventually became America's team...In fact...Coach Landry didn't win his first SB until SB 6...after 12 years on the job...Tom Landry is now on the all- time winning NFL HC list...😮😮😮...

[@Jviotr]

Even if he was that bad, it only means they didn’t vet him well at all, and they just wasted a year.

[@AttilatheThrilla]

I feel bad for Mayo cuz he was a stud when he played for us.. but that being said I wanted Vrabes since Tennessee let him go

[@David-mt7tj]

A stud? He played ILB and made a bunch of tackles 5 yards off of the LOS. The best part of his career is when he got hurt and made way for Hightower.

[@AttilatheThrilla]

@ Lmao hate all you want but he was known as the Tom Brady of defence and you don’t get that title unless you’re a stud

[@davedean2326]

He sucked at coaching. Knock it off. No energy, no player improvement, the were undisciplined and to top it off they win the game they actually needed to lose. It was beyond stupid. All you people should let him go coach your team.

[@desaline22]

JIMMY JOHNSON FIRST YEAR AS THE COWBOYS HEAD COACH HE WAS 1-15!!!!!!

[@JamesGreenier]

Tony Dungee should still be coaching.