New Ford Transit Custom PLUG-IN HYBRID | Tourneo PHEV | First drive & Review

[@mitchwarren1600]

I hit a coach head on in one of these vans ! The steering wheel ended up touching the arm rest ! The wheel arch next to Excelerator was ripped off along with the drivers door! I walked away almost unscathed! I’ve clocked up hundreds of thousands of miles without having any reliability problems! The only difference is that I’ve been driving the diesel ! The ac is artic and sound system is decent ! Very civilised and it hauls serious weight without compromising performance!

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Thanks for sharing that. I believe that there should not be cars that cannot withstand a crash properly. With today's technology, it's just easy and whichever brand fails, means that they are really really sloppy.

[@emsik185]

Good video mate, 📹 nice to watch 😀

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@ramonhernandez3812]

We need this . Come on ford bring it to the states

[@french-9743]

*Could we install a second battery identical to the first?* There's plenty of room in a van for another battery... In addition, in the diagrams and animations, you can see that the Transit Hybrid's 13.6 kW Lithium battery is placed on the left side inside the floor. It seems that the symmetrical part on the right is vacant. Is it really vacant? To increase the autonomy in electric mode, would it be enough to add a battery? Or would it require some intervention in the software? If this operation is possible without reprogramming the software, could any battery be added? I'm thinking of adding the battery of another model that would have more amperes (why not the biggest battery on the market that would be the one of a Tesla). What do you think about it?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I'm now not sure about it but I think that on the other side there is something, perhaps a fuel tank. I understand your thinking but I think it's not only about the "size" or capacity of the battery itself and the thing is about other components as well to match the size of it. So I believe it will not be possible to simply add another battery. Definitely not through Ford. However, maybe a kind of a "power bank" will be developedd for these electric/hybrid vehicles soon. That could be a solution perhaps. But it's just my imagination.

[@DarrenWigfield]

Does the air conditioner work off the battery? (Some hybrids require the engine running for AC) I imagine these would be a fantastic platform for an adventure RV/Camper Van (Caravan?) if only they would offer: 1. All wheel drive 2. High top roof 3. Extended length "two-ton" body 4. Sales in the US. (PHEV Transit is not coming to America) 5. Adaptive Cruise Control 6. Some towing capacity This would be much better than a rooftop air conditioner that requires an alternating current hookup or a generator. The built in 1.0L engine is an ultra quiet generator, and with the batteries, would allow off-grid camping indefinitely.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I assume that air conditioning works off of a battery. I bet the electrification is really just starting and sooner or later the elements that you've listed will be possible to get.

[@12vLife]

Many questions.... Will the battery charge from Gas too or only plug in? Will we have access to the hybrid battery via 12v and 110v while parked and off? will the 12v starter battery feed/charge if consumed while off and parked? Can you run the AC overnight while parked and off?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

The battery can be charged from a direct electricity source like home power socket or a charging station AND via the 1.0 l EcoBoost engine (gas) AND thanks to regenerative braking. In my opinion there is access to the power from the battery while the vehicle is technically. However, I have to admit that I have not plugged anything to check that while the car was off. But all cars have that option and I'm pretty certain that the hybrid does too. If a normal car's battery dies, then it's dead and you cannot start the engine; same here - if everything gets drained for whatever reason, it's dead. Assuming that I understood your question right. As for AC left for the night, I'm not sure how this would work for such long time and I actually don't know what would happen to a regular car. I remember that in my Volvo I could turn the radio itself ON while the car was off but it would switch off anyway after 15-30 minutes and I'd have to activate it again anyway. I wonder how to get an answer to that for you and I have to admit that not much comes into my mind. Any idea who to ask?

[@12vLife]

@@VToldsMotoShowReally? Interesting! How long would the car run without plugging it in? and how does it run from petro only? Any fuel economy numbers from petro only?

[@RoundTownWithMike]

So with the braking charging the battery, if you press the go peddle and the stop peddle at the same time you can drive on forever?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I think that since charging is less effective than using the power, you might hold the brake harder than the accelerator and it should work!

[@carsofkansascity]

Will the Transit get the Same Design as the Ford Tourneo?

[@carsofkansascity]

We need this van, come on ford, bring it to the us

[@arnisnamajuns]

Transit phev dont have transmision at all. The engine is conected only to genarator. This is very good news... no automatic transmision, cvt and other crap

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Yes, this is correct.

[@oliverw.4112]

@@VToldsMotoShow No, that is not correct. As the e-motor revs at about 13000 rpm at full speed it cannot drive the wheels directly. Additionally you still need a differential. There is a compact reduction gear between the e-motor and the wheels to bring down the revs. That also houses the differential and the park lock system.

[@tetatoto23]

I wish to delay starting the combustion engine. Can I add batteries to extend the 100% electric mode range or would that require programming changes?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I've replied to your question under another video: "Hi, I am almost entirely sure that replacing the battery with a larger one is not possible. Definitely not officially and not within Ford's official distribution. Perhaps one day there will be some remote "power banks" that you can have with you and charge the car from them. This is a good idea by the way."

[@brenbren9551]

Whats the top speed running on petrol engine please?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

It's limited to 125 km/h - we tested it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIjKmpuHm7etos0

[@endreszigethy5704]

Thank you for being the first with this review! Is the top speed really limited at 125 kmh?? Can it be modified in the board computer?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

My pleasure and at this point I believe that the top speed is already at its maximum and cannot be modified - at least to higher values. As far as I’m concerned it’s about how much energy the petrol engine can produce in the long run. At some point it might not be able to overcome the air resistance,tire friction etc. at higher speed. However, I am not entirely sure if this is the case only.

[@endreszigethy5704]

​@@VToldsMotoShow Yes, your assumption seems to be reasonable, however, a bit more top speed (i.e. performance of the petrol engine) would have been ideal. How is about adaptive cruise control, was it available in the PHEV? I heard it may not...

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I had to dig this one and it turns out that you have heard correctly - for some reason the PHEV Custom cannot have the Adaptive Cruise Control. For the same unknown to me reason it doesn't have the Pre-Collision Assist - the automatic emergency braking. I checked the specs for Polish market. It normally is in Tourneto Titanium but does not apply to PHEV.

[@chinabluewho]

Put solar panels on top to make it a 100% (6 mile short drives) solar powered vehicle and I am all in.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

There certainly is some space to put solar panels - why not. I wouldn't want to know the price of such system then. Also, I believe that this kind of technology is not very efficient still. Might give only marginal benefits.

[@chinabluewho]

@@VToldsMotoShow If the Hyundai Sonata Hybrid can come with solar panels on top for a decent price I am sure Ford could do the same.

[@xbuphiii2131]

How much does it cost to fill up the petrol tank

[@VToldsMotoShow]

It depends mostly on how much a liter or gallon of fuel costs in your country.

[@adithyaramachandran7427]

I sometimes wish the more rugged & sporty ford vehicles had a different chime. A soft chime like that is good for a family vehicle, but has no place in a Ford Raptor or GT 350, IMO. A more aggressive chime would be preferred for performance & off road vehicles. I would really like to see public service vans use this powertrain in the US, but it would need a 2.0 or 2.3 Ecoboost to sell.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

It is an interesting idea about the chime and I actually do think so too. Nobody seems to really care about it while we hear it pretty much everyday. Very interesting indeed. US I believe doesn't have as strict emission regulations so no need to electric cars yet, really. Europe is getting crazy this and next year. Many cars will stop being produced and many vairants of those that will keep being sold will be gone too, leaving mostly the green ones for the automakers to be able to stay within emission limits.

[@scottcraig1047]

Ford sells a 2.5 liter hybrid in the US. Ford is also going to build an all electric Transit van in the US.

[@ecootrip6650]

8l/100km on open roads at 120km/h ?, 10l?

[@bekabeka71]

That's too much diesel is much better

[@cloggsy1971]

Is the petrol engine just a generator to charge the battery or does the engine drive the wheels?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

It works just as a generator - there is NO connection between the petrol engine and the car's wheels. So it can either supply energy to the battery for later use or also directly to the electric motor (but not directly to the wheels!) when all the power needs to be used right after being generated (when a battery is empty or when driving in a certain mode like "EV later"). Cheers!

[@byondo]

Thanks! so the worst case scenario, you arrive to a gas station with the battery completely empty, you make petrol and you're back on the road instantly, is it right? I eagerly wait to try the Transit here in Italy!

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Yeah, it is exactly as you said. When the battery is empty (after up to 56 km - and in fact it can get very close to that value), the car simply continues on petrol. At the same time some energy may be restored by braking and some additional electric range will be created. That's your range that you get for free this way. Or you switch the mode to charging the battery and the car drives on petrol and at the same time charges the battery. Once it's out of petrol, then you just fill it up and are ready to go again instantly.

[@markc3662]

Great review thanks! I've been looking forward to hearing more about this van for a while. Just 1 question which I can't find any info about: do you know if it can tow a trailer?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Thanks. Your question may seem silly at first but I started digging and so far I haven't found a direct answer. However, I think I may have a chance to check that and post an answer this week. I would say "of course it can", but then I couldn't find any figures in regard to towing capability. I'll check and hope that I don't forget to post an answer for you.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

@Mark I got my answer and it is that Ford Custom CANNOT tow a trailer. There is no data about its towing capabilities yet and at this point it's not allowed to tow with it. That's what I learned.

[@markc3662]

@@VToldsMotoShow What I guessed/feared 😕 Thanks for checking! 😊

[@alinsarbulescu]

It can barely carry itself with that 1 liter engine. What a fail!

[@DaveDVideoMaker]

No start stop button on the Ford Transit Custom PHEV unlike other PHEVs.

[@russty81ify]

Thank fuck for that I hate the one on my focus

[@notfound_63]

It's sad to see how cities are banning certain cars from entering but there're close to 0 options of electric or hybrid vans. Not to mention if you're on a tight budget. The options are literally nonexistant... I hope it changes in the near future

[@VToldsMotoShow]

The word "budget" is the key here I believe.

[@peterdebel7379]

GREAT CAR and teknologi! Are you watching VW-Group and Opel?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Thanks for your voice. I am somehow watching VW - yes. This is especially because of Ford-VW alliance that is yet to show us fruits of the cooperation of these two. However, not really into Opel. Cheers!

[@yourplanetmyplanet8155]

What mpg does this achieve with 1 full charge and a full tank of petrol driven to empty?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

This is a reasonable question that I did not manage to find an answer to after two days of driving - the second day we got our car charged again. What I know is that driving on purely petrol engine at times was giving us around 7-8,5 l of fuel consumption per 100 km according to the trip computer. This was depending on the driving style of course. I believe that city driving might give better results (due to more possibilities of regenerative braking and charging the battery and then using that power to move the wheels) and purely highway driving would be closer to 8-9 liters per 100 km. The car I was driving (the blue one) was a Tourneo with 3 people onboard (including me) and no additional load. I checked some stats recently and according to what I saw, on average these cars do 70 km of daily driving if used in the city. Knowing that this one can do 50 km on electricity after being charged, there are only 20 km to do using petrol engine and restored energy, so at the end of the day it is possible that average fuel consumption is around 2 l/100 km. Anyway, after 500 km with no charging I think it may end up at the level of 7-8 l but this is just my assumption.

[@chinabluewho]

@@VToldsMotoShow I give this reply 5,7-8 Hogans Heroes out of a possible 9,5/3.8-9 Benji movies.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

@@chinabluewho I'll take it as a compliment ;)

[@arnisnamajuns]

My concern is about, how long this small battery will stand. Charging with high kw from engine will degrade battery fast. Need a little biger battery. Some 25 kw, not 13...

[@VToldsMotoShow]

So far we don't know how many charging cycles it can withstand but there is an 8-year or 160000 km (whichever comes first) warranty on the battery so in most cases we don't even need to care.

[@MrAcculinx]

In mph is this faster or slower than a standard diesel transit custom ?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

In terms of top speed, it is not as fast as any turbo diesel Custom. As for 0-60 mph/0-100 kph acceleration, our test with 3 people onboard showed that it does in in around 18 seconds. Knowing this, you may compare it to the diesel Custom of your interest. However, somehow I feel that at lower speeds it could be quicker. Just the last 80-100kph were pretty slow.

[@BluesyBor]

You drive to "Money for Nothing" too? My maaaaan! :D

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Yes! It was set as one of the songs of the whole soundtrack for journalists and me - who were driving these cars at media drives at that time.

[@honestopinion253]

Well if notice non of these electric cars or van are seen driving in the dark,with the heater on,windscreen wipers on,and all lights on.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Anyhow, this seems to be our future!

[@ducmagic]

I want this Van in the US.

[@xavierangelergues8198]

What’s the price in Euros?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I believe it's around 50000 euros.

[@xavierangelergues8198]

V-Told Thanks ;-)

[@nightknight9031]

So if ICE is just generator that's not PHEV. That's range extended electric vehicle not plug in hybrid 🤔

[@E6EES]

If you say so

[@wowerman]

Thanks for video. However I would not see it as review. It is more presentation and guide.Review for me is to test it for some time and give report what was positive and negative to it.I have 2.0L Eco Diesel from 2018. One thing I like about Transit Custom short wheel base is fact not to be too bulky. Sound system even in new Transit is terrible. Speakers are cheap and radio outputs low Watts.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Thanks for your feedback! I've spent 2 days with the cars but really in terms of driving the PHEV on the road, it's no different than a non-Plug-In hybrid Custom. I was really impressed how nicely these cars drive. I somehow included two issues that I had noticed in the video and it was that the infotainment system's screen is not directed at the driver and therefore sometimes it's not easy to see what you want to see. And also you need to look quite far to the right (of left if you're in the UK), while it's a bit too much in front of the whole console. And also the number of switches on the steering wheel would need quite a bit of time to get used to. As for the hybrid powertrain, I didn't actually see anything to complain about. Some may not like top speed that's limited to 125 km/h (in fact it's 120 km/h). And one more thing that you may come across is that there is no "fast charging" possibility. This is because Ford used all they had at the time to introduce the car as soon as possible and didn't want to spend additional time on developing that functionality. However, with 2,7 hours to full charge, I guess it may not be that huge of an issue. That's correct about the sound system - but here I simply wasn't expecting a Bang&Olufsen-like experience. But yeah, you've added a good point here!

[@oOWN3Do]

agreed speakers are trash and i have limited spec with sync 3. recently done a whole new audio install but kept the head unit. sounds brilliant now! love that there making more of an effort with luxury in work vans. people are spending more than half there life in these things. better speakers would be brilliant stock.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I guess that what you've done is the best solution. May not be cheap but just as well can make the audio sound unlike any stock car. Good job!

[@lucacorso_audiosystem]

👍🏻

[@ShadowTenReal]

OK, as far as I can see you had two different cars for tests. The white one was equipeed with normal diesel engine, while the Blue Turneo was actual PHEV car. Most of the time you were talking about white car as being hybrid. I understand inside does not differ, but actuall driving is a different thing, so you havent really tested hybrid. As for testing the cargo van you did not say a word about the diemesnions, doors or anything which actually matters for transporting cargo. Sometimes cargo cars have so nasty bugs which are well known for users, but because reviewers dont know how to test them how the car manufacturers can fix it….

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I was talking about the Hybrid only and was driving it during two days - the actual Tourneo PHEV that you can see in some shots, mainly from the inside. I drove the car and was driven in the front of the cabin and in the back. The white one was a 185 HP mHEV (mild hybrid) Transit Custom that was there only as my "model" for standing in the background. I couldn't take a hybrid and put it in random spots for 2 hours. In my opinion driving in terms of handling is no different ans there are no differences in chassis and suspension. The powertrain is the only difference. The cargo is exactly the same as in the regular Transit Custom (I believe it's 6,0 cubic meters). But yeah, I did not focus on the cargo space in the Transit. I actually thought that the powertrain is the element that raises the most questions, so I focused on that - especially that it's a completely new thing. I hope that this helps. If there's anything I could help find an answer to, feel free to ask.

[@ShadowTenReal]

@@VToldsMotoShow Ok so white was Diesel mild hybrid, while the blue one was petro Plugin Hybrid. I saw that diesel had fuel efficiency of 8.5l/100km while the plugin only 2.1l/100km. I assume that 2.1 was because the batteries were full, but it rises question when the engine started? And whats the fuel consumption with dry batteries. I must say diesel consumption is rather the same like usual diesel. I dont see benefit here by using hybrid.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

As for fuel consumption while running on petrol engine, I assume that it would be 7-9 liters in total. So yes, if the car would be driven not using its electric engine and not recover any energy to use it later, then it may not have a huge advantage over a diesel and spending more money on it may not pay off. However, the purpose is to use the electricity and recharge the car during driving. Otherwise it probably would be as you say - with no benefit to fuel consumption. Still the road tax in some places like the UK would be much lower, the purchase itself may also be appreciated by governments in some EU countries etc. These advantages stay anyway. Let me repost what I wrote answering somebody's question before, hope that you won't find it inappropriate: "This is a reasonable question that I did not manage to find an answer to after two days of driving - the second day we got our car charged again. What I know is that driving on purely petrol engine at times was giving us around 7-8,5 l of fuel consumption per 100 km according to the trip computer. This was depending on the driving style of course. I believe that city driving might give better results (due to more possibilities of regenerative braking and charging the battery and then using that power to move the wheels) and purely highway driving would be closer to 8-9 liters per 100 km. The car I was driving (the blue one) was a Tourneo with 3 people onboard (including me) and no additional load. I checked some stats recently and according to what I saw, on average these cars do 70 km of daily driving if used in the city. Knowing that this one can do 50 km on electricity after being charged, there are only 20 km to do using petrol engine and restored energy, so at the end of the day it is possible that average fuel consumption is around 2 l/100 km. Anyway, after 500 km with no charging I think it may end up at the level of 7-8 l but this is just my assumption."

[@srxabier2778]

Merece la pena su compra frente a la versión Diesel ?¿

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Depends on where it is going to be driven. If mostly in and around the city, then yes. For highway driving - not really as that's not what it was designed for.

[@festuc]

Diuen que la diesel falla molt. Que el motor bó de Ford és el de gasolina

[@joel7279]

Its a REX then not a PHEV

[@VToldsMotoShow]

What's a REX? Reminds me of a T-Rex or RAM's TRX but that's far from what this van is.

[@ch9il]

Worse ever made !! Major DPF problems limp mode Engine management light on, easily stolen with OBM plug in, Peugeot engine from 2012 -2016, ,,, new van 2016 -2020 even with extra security locks side loading small hill near roll liner would open the whole van and stolen again, limb mode again Diesel mixing with oil to clear new DPF fail, new van 2021 hybrid/electric is VW engine Electric motor and battery, how much is a ford a ford. VW is coming out with their new electric van will buy them for my 200+ fleet thanks FYI nearly every major company in the uk has moved to VW or someone else because of all the problems with this van sorry ford 👎 I will be doing a video soon show the comparison 👍

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Yeah, the issue of diesel fuel mixing with oil is known to Ford. There was a recall with a software update last year (2019). This applies to diesel engines in every diesel van as the technology of cleaning DPF is basically the same. Eco ideology is trying to kill diesels and using them on short distances may be causing issues that you described. This is saddening - I agree. However, I'm not sure if VW is any better here, especially with their diesel scandal history. Using diesels on long distances is generally fine. However, for city driving let's focus on the plug-in hybrid then - it doesn't have any of these issues because it doesn't have a diesel engine :)

[@bekabeka71]

8 litres per 100 kilometer is actually more than what diesel can do which is a shame

[@VToldsMotoShow]

And 0 liters per approx 50 km if that's what you cover daily. I'd wonder if that's a shame.

[@cycus9842]

czemu jakis typ gada po amgielsku xD to ty ?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

No starałem się jak mogłem do całego świata przemawiać, ale trudna mowa, trudna ;)

[@cycus9842]

V-Told a czyli to ty ? Ładny język

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Tak, tak - przyznaję się!

[@paulpaul5606]

You’ll be lucky to get 10 miles out of a full charge if you’re loaded. There rubbish

[@RoundTownWithMike]

125 k per hr is about 77 mph. That is not very good for highway driving! you are gonna be getting passed a lot. Maybe EVEN by a Prius! NOOO!

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I agree that it's not very impressive but rather limiting in highway driving. Clearly no highways were kept in mind for this Custom.

[@davidcavaliere1525]

Why do you keep calling it a car ! It’s a bloody van

[@VToldsMotoShow]

For the same reason that you call a hatchback, sedan, convertible and the rest cars too.

[@GT3Alexx]

3 cylinder 1 liter engine - I give it 3 years then its destroyed lol.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

These engines are used in production cars from 2012.

[@scottcraig1047]

I have the 1.0 3 cylinder ecoboost in my 2015 Fiesta sedan. 65,000 miles; no issues. In fact it should last considerably longer in this application as the petrol engine only charges the batteries - no transmission. It would run at a steady rpm.

[@rp007k9]

Nice but the 1.0 litre is known as the worst ford engine ever. Even Mike brewer has said any ford vehicle with the 1.0 litre engine in. Don't get it. No one wants to work on it. It's rubbish. A real shame for ford the engines seam to be getting worse and worse. Not just ford but other makes too.

[@VToldsMotoShow]

I’m not going to defend Ford but as I know, these engines are quite reliable and rather long-lasting. And I’ve got some first-hands insights into that. Now about 1.5 liter diesels that would be correct - never make a mistake of getting this crap. My company car had such an engine and it’s a nightmare that barely lets any vehicle even move.

[@russty81ify]

It's not that's rubbish.. I have a 2014 ford focus eco boost with a 1.0l 3 pot engine never had a problem with it. The only thing I would be worried about is that is a small engine in a van that can carry well over a ton in weight plus the battery weight

[@rp007k9]

I believe its the latest version of the 1.0 ltr that is the issue.

[@PaganiniPagani]

Jebać hybrydy 🤣 tylko 6.6 litra duramax v8 dizel 🤣

[@VToldsMotoShow]

Hahaha, V8 rulezzz zawsze ;)

[@tedere]

Worst engine ever?? ask any mechanic,

[@VToldsMotoShow]

The 1.0 l EcoBoost? I've heard pretty much only good things about it myself. Actually, it seems to be generally considered one of a very few good small-capacity engines. Unless you meant working on this engine from a mechanic's perspective, then I don't really know.

[@silviuflorescu6838]

Could that petrol engine/generator be converted to run on LPG?

[@VToldsMotoShow]

As far as I know, Ford doesn't offer it in such a setup. If it's technically possible, perhaps yes as that is a regular 1,0 EcoBoost engine. If anyone will try to do it - I don't think so.

[@ericlotze7724]

I know there are companies that do CNG conversions for commercial vans, i am unsure on LPG.