NEW Frontera: Finally, a CHEAP Electric Family Car?

Jack takes a look around Vauxhall's spacious new compact crossover, the Frontera. Boasting huge interior space and impressive range for a tantalising price, is this the new benchmark for affordable family EVs? @fullychargedshow @EverythingElectricShow @Vauxhall @Stellantis_official
00:00 Intro
1:12 Exterior walkaround
3:43 Big old boot
4:34 Key stats
5:34 Steady improvements
7:08 Interior
10:59 Back seat test
13:02 Vauxhall getting serious
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[@davelocktalk]

I really wish car makers would put a power supply for a dash cam up in the rear mirror area! Would save alot of hassle with cables!

[@SteveLoughran]

I wish there was a way to connect a camera on a trailer/caravan through to the screen of any rear view “mirror” so we can see what’s behind when driving while pulling stuff

[@stepheng8779]

There's a power supply for a dash cam in the rear mirror on the new Dacia Duster 👍 Dunno why they don't just build a dash cam in the mirrors that you can choose to turn on or not 🤷

[@SteveLoughran]

@@stepheng8779 tesla do this best: continuous cameras all round, even while parked. So you will have a video of who reversed into you at the supermarket as well as who cut you up on the M25 when their lane ended

[@origin178]

Agree entirely. There's already power up there in the roof for courtesy lights etc. They just need to provide a USB socket costing a few pennies (oh, sorry it's a car.... that'll be a £150 "Dash cam power provision" option.

[@keithw7777]

Absolutely agree,more people would fit them if they were just plug In and no cables dangling

[@1964mcqueen]

"My cheeks are satisfied thus far." Every Fully Charged EV review should include a Cheek Satisfaction Rating from this point forward.

[@deltasigma2599]

So now I have the choice of the Jeep Avenger, the Fiat 600e, the Citroen e-C3, the Alfa Romeo Junior, and the Vauxhall Frontera. And I can buy all 5, and still have the same damn car. I'm convinced stellantis is one day gonna kill off individual brands and just call them "The Stellantis 001" or something dumb

[@theairstig9164]

The Boris

[@Hali88]

Well done Vauxhall/Opel for having buttons and switches!

[@javelinXH992]

That’s why I got a Corsa and not a 208. Real buttons and dials!

[@ratchetfox8111]

I know why manufacturers do it, almost entirely because of cost, but it's going to land up with legislation being brought in after accidents are found to be because of people being distracted while fumbling through touch screen menus.

[@markgamble3786]

I find those touch screens and controls even more distracting than a mobile phone, I have to stop and pull over to change things that a simple switch or button used to easily do. It would make the difference between me buying the car and walking away from it into a car that still has physical buttons.

[@luysterborgh]

The Vauxhall design language: it's another Citroen ë-C3

[@Jon-em4kc]

Stellantis group design language.

[@luysterborgh]

@@Jon-em4kc exactly. So badge engineering. What’s the use? Just make 1 brand and make it fantastic. Fewer choice doesn’t mean by default ‘bad’

[@logicalChimp]

@@luysterborgh Different styles for different folks... one badge does 'lots of buttons', one badge does 'touchscreen everything', a 3rd could do 'middle ground'... one can do 'sporty' with tiny rear seats, another can do 'practical family' - and by using brands, they can offer 10+ different variants of each model, without utterly baffling buyers.

[@drxym]

Just another Stellantis EV - basically the same mechanics & parts bin interior, reskinned to resemble a brand they purchased. Stellantis are basically becoming the Luxxotica of cars.

[@luysterborgh]

@@logicalChimp true but it put a lot of weight on logistics and production, all these variables and thus adding cost and pumping up sales prices… and for just these tiny differences. They should take a page out of the Tesla play book…

[@udishomer5852]

So £30,000 is cheap these days. Good to know.

[@keithhooper6123]

That's right times what I paid for my used car, ten years ago.

[@timaustin2000]

Um,... Yes? Have you seen how much new cars are now? A base Corsa is £19k.

[@backfischritter]

​@@timaustin2000 you are missing 11k

[@brucemacaulay4331]

Yes, cars just get more expensive.

[@zoinked1351]

First time encountering inflation? £22500 in 2014 equates to about £30000 today.

[@keithhooper6123]

The only thing Vauxhall is the badging!

[@brendanfromireland]

Yep, it's even a left hand drive... It's an Opel

[@DavidMarshall15]

I use to say that when I owned a Vauxhall badged Monaro

[@drtk722]

There are german presentations with the exact same car! Suddenly with Opel badge...

[@mirkozlikovski9553]

@@drtk722 yeah... and both of them are just rebadged Citroën C3 Aircross... an Indian one, to be worse

[@tnickknight]

Yup, more Stellantis junk

[@darwinskeeper421]

"Lend me your ears". Who do you think I am, Van Gogh?

[@ianemery2925]

It's not a real Frontera unless the only way to get fresh air inside, is to wind down the windows.

[@mrtjackson]

When did £30k become affordable? Strange days.

[@SusieSmart]

When PCP took over as the main way people buy cars. People generally don’t look at the list price more the PCP payment. I mean an Audi S3 is a £47,000+ car but doesn’t stop you seeing them going about does it?

[@reggiebuffat]

22% inflation in the last 4 years.

[@Sushi_219]

Ah yes, I first watch Electrifying's review then jump straight to the Fully charged show review , and then Autotrader to finish things off. and the cycle repeats

[@carfella7994]

Wow you are living the dream

[@hcw199]

Get a life!

[@bwarey52]

So another car the same size and price as the majority of car in it's class........why don't the manufacturers make the small EV,the E Up sold in big numbers and now there's nothing,Aygo/i10 /Ka equivalent size for well under 20k would sell but they keep repackaging the same thing

[@rusty911s2]

​@@bwarey52 R5 perhaps? Hopefully anyway. But yes, completely agree.

[@Sushi_219]

@@bwarey52 Manufactures did some research a while back and consumers kept asking for more space and more range when it comes to there vehicle lineup and small vehicles weren't bringing in that much revenue, that's why the current market is saturated with mid sized and large vehicles. Hopefully this changes in the near future.

[@y272nly]

Last Frontera I had was the short wheelbased 4x4 and it was a blast offroad. Have they forgotten their roots or will this be ok with chunky tires, mountain climbing and the occasional submersion?

[@roderickmain9697]

I think we need a realistic range measurement. In a lot of the reviews Ive seen, the difference between WLTP and real world range are 20% or more different (and not in a good way). Having a limited charging rate isnt helping (although I guess its keeping costs down). As for the Frontera, aside from the downsides Jack has noted, looks like a sensible car aimed at sensible people. I applaud the use of real buttons. Use muscle memory to switch them instead of taking your eyes off the road to fiddle with menus with touchy areas that are not quite large enough to hit the first time.. (thats why having your co-pilot able to see the screen helps if you dont have the buttons).

[@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270]

It's more complex than that. We've owned an e-Niro from new since 2019 here in France. The car is now on 101,000 km so we have some experience with it. In summer driving around rural Poitou-Charente the car comfortably exceeds the WLTP quoted range for the car. In winter on the autoroute you're right, subtract 20%. In between those extremes the WLTP range (455 km) is spot on in our experience.

[@jonathantaylor1998]

Exaggerated WLTP estimates for an EV is no different to exaggerated WLTP estimates for petrol cars, if my experience with our Yaris Hybrid is anything to go by... Toyota claims 85mpg WLTP. Over the 7 years we've ran it, I've never seen anything over 61.2mpg - that's a 28% difference...!

[@roderickmain9697]

@@jonathantaylor1998 Yes. Nothing is getting better.

[@sjcsystems]

Use your search option to find "EV database uk"

[@sullysullivan1187]

Great a box on wheels that looks like it came straight from 2004. Lovelyz

[@krazed0451]

Those rear pillars say otherwise... We're not allowed vision now days.

[@sjcsystems]

Soul anyone?

[@vp272]

Lane assist button and physical ventilation switches and buttons are a big step forward!

[@Earth-Apple]

Good job Vauxhall on adding the buttons,j I hope other makes get inspired.

[@54mgtf22]

Stellantis generic mid size electric SUV?

[@norfolkngood8960]

Oh another stellantis 200 mile box. That's nice

[@MaticTheProto]

Ikr? I mean it’s plenty for most, but 250 miles/400+ km would be much more reassuring Edit: nvm it is lol

[@rodmitchell831]

Great stuff...thank you

[@norfolkngood8960]

Any designer that thinks cars don't need physical lane keep assist off button needs to come drive on rural Norfolk roads and see how great it is at firing you into oncoming traffic I love this "competitive" price well depends what it's competitive with doesn't it? Kia Niro totally different class than this other than size daft comparison this has got to be closer to £20k than 30 especially as it'll be fully loaded with vauxhall scratchy plastics lol Also that screen looks almost too angled away from the passenger. When I'm driving if I want something done I don't want to stop, I don't want to crash if its more than one touch I want the passenger to be able to program the satnav etc so maybe it's the camera angle or the reproduction nature but just looks too tilted away like it's a taxi meter

[@chrisrichmond403]

I appreciate what you mean, Granted not driven on Norfolk’s roads with any car with a lane assist system that’s too over sensitive it is dangerous but living on the Isle Of Man in the past i have had some scares due to the same systems .

[@adam79burgess]

I seem to remember Dacia do reasonably priced cars.

[@MrAdopado]

Indeed ... cheapest new EV in UK.

[@miracoli16]

Good presentation! You have a pleasing voice and appearence!

[@drunkenhobo8020]

Why do all new car reveals happen in the same place that Squidward went to be all alone?

[@drtk722]

But you can at least easily switch the badge from opel to vauxhall at the exact same car!

[@drxym]

Who knows, but it's kind of cynical and depressing that all these automotive / EV youtube channels go along with this BS. I'm sure they're getting paid jollies to these launch events and they'll talk a load of bollocks about a car they can't even drive and won't even be on sale for months to stay on the good side of these manufacturers.

[@EugeneLambert]

Thanks, Jack, for an interesting review

[@ClanMidgard]

I like the texture of the seats on the headrests, looks like Scales... very smart

[@eikeholz]

8:00 cheeky Jack comment.. made me spit out my coffee 😂

[@Clarkkentuk6]

Great review! Straight to point, no nonsense jibber jabber!

[@douggray169]

Great video

[@RobSnowden]

Great review

[@TheHughsie]

Man I remember the original Frontera!

[@Hali88]

yeah, it looked rugged but was pretty cack!

[@timoliver8940]

And rusted while you watched it……….. but at least it could get passed a farm gate and into a muddy field which I suspect this one won’t. TBH I’d sooner buy the JeepAvenger version which looks better even if it drives the same.

[@MaxMisterC]

Didn't the roll over on their roofs, on round-abouts?

[@Hali88]

@@timoliver8940 I think this Frontera is a bit bigger, the Avenger is quite a small car

[@jontallon73]

The "original " Frontera was simply a badge stuck on an Isuzu Rodeo so hardly cutting edge design from Luton.

[@davelocktalk]

250miles on a 50klw battery? Na!! It will be more like 220miles In the summer and less in the winter.

[@narvuntien]

It does have a weak motor, but that also lowers regen but it is definitely in the 350 km not 400 km range.

[@MrAdopado]

You are correct ... but that is WLTP for you ... i.e. the range standard that manufacturers are obliged to use and is actually just slightly more realistic than the WLTP miles per gallon given for ICE cars. I've never achieved the WLTP for my Fiesta no matter how I drive, but on a pleasantly warm day with easy driving I can (just occasionally) exceed the WLTP for my EV. A genuine 200 mile EV range is very practical for most people who have easy access to home charging ... more of a challenge for those who want to drive for a week without charging. Routinely plugging in of an evening is definitely a "good thing" ... makes sure you always have plenty of charge in the morning and gives the battery an easy time (they like regular short charges).

[@Antiguan_Dart]

There is a balance to be had between regular shallow charging and deeper in frequent charging. Remember most rechargeable batteries have their longevity specified by number of charging cycles - a charging cycle can be a deep charge or a shallow charge. Obviously lots of shallow charges gets through that charging cycle number quicker! 3500 cycles for a NMC Li ion battery is 10 years charging everyday. But look at what your longevity might be if you are only charging once a week!

[@MrAdopado]

@@Antiguan_Dart I think you are misunderstanding charging cycles. It doesn't matter whether you do 10 charges of 10% or 1 charge of 100% ... in both scenarios that counts as one cycle. The short charges in the mid band of the battery percentage give the pack the easiest time ... I monitor mine and I have actually gained capacity over the past 18 months!

[@NunoLima1337]

How does it carry bicycles? Is the towbar kit sold as an extra for £800 like Tesla?

[@mikeymike1792]

I don't like how it looks, inside or out. However, I do really appreciate some of the very sensible, clever little touches inside. More of that from other manufacturers, please.

[@wondrboy89]

This video is the definition of smiling through the pain. Well done jack

[@chilllytube]

But why did they reuse the Frontera name? The original had such a bad rep, let's hope it leaves that behind.

[@alancowie4139]

The shape of a shoe box. Revolutionary.

[@BMWHP2]

Good info video and nice mix with fun, thanks. On first glance, from the side, i thought it was the Red and Black Citroën ë-C3. . . . . Crossover SUV. . . . .113hp motor . . . 100kWh charging . . . . Steering wheel with identical form and buttons and also from Stellantis 😁. I guess it will come in 2 battery sizes,the 45kW and a larger one. I would like to know the sizes. That Citroën starts just under 22.000 British Pounds, and not a bit under 30.000.

[@av_oid]

100kw charging? So at the DC fast charger it will definitely be plugged into the only 350kw stall.

[@mikemellor759]

Impressed that Jack was given access to a preproduction model. 👏👏Looking forward to estate car reviews

[@richardjohnson5529]

I have just bought a Fiat 600e and i love it, its a Stellantis car and i think they are getting it right by offering hybrid and 100% electric in the same model.

[@danielmadar9938]

"My cheeks are satisfied " 😂😂😂

[@matthewnightingale4675]

As with the Crossland, there's something off about the design of this. Now I don't know if it's intentional or just the Vauxhall C segment SUV curse. But as long as the price is right...

[@johnnyonline]

I'm not much of a hydrationsman myself, but it's good to now know what to call them should I happen across one in the wild.

[@Hytowa]

Hydro Homies is also a perfectly valid collective noun.

[@messiermitchell4901]

A rebranded Citroën eC3, yes But I really like the Citroën eC3, now we get one with a Gryphon badge 😃

[@MarkAtkin]

Please tell us how much it can tow. I'd also like to see a shot with the rear seat folded. Without these two things I don't know if I can add this car to my shortlist or not..

[@claudiuberta5688]

I see this car priced in the range of £18-23k... No one in their right mind would pay more than that.

[@LeiChat]

All car prices have risen significantly. A petrol Skoda Fabia starts at £19k.

[@claudiuberta5688]

@@LeiChat if the new Citroen C3-e starts at £18k (same car as this) i would not expect another price for the same car with different badge. And even so, the comparison with Kia Niro it's unfair, this Frontera (big suv name for a little car) - missed opportunity here to used the name for something more appealing, it's just Dacia spring, Renault Zoe territory.

[@kalebdaark100]

I don't necessarily disagree with you but it did get me thinking, so as I've said elsewhere in these comments, I did a search. I came across a piece on the BBC web site from 11 July 2015 titled: Just how important was the Vauxhall Cavalier? The first paragraph of which read 'Forty years ago a car was unveiled that promised "the power you want, the economy you need (at) the price you'll like". Costing a little over £4,000, the car in question was the Vauxhall Cavalier.' So i stuck £4000 in the Bank of England Inflation Calculator to calculate 1975 prices in today's money. £4000 = £29,919.63 apparently. It's not really a direct comparison, I'm not sure there is one and I can't guarantee the numbers, but it will do for a back of the envelope comparison. We are back in the 70's it seems.

[@claudiuberta5688]

@@kalebdaark100 Vauxall Cavalier was another car segment, so I will compare with the actual Vauxall Astra which start at £27k, so if we look like this as terms of comparison and price adjusted to inflation I'd say it's fair.

[@kalebdaark100]

@@claudiuberta5688 Is that the number for an Astra today? I only picked an Cavalier as I was looking for some kind of price for a Vauxhall from my childhood. Like I say, not a great comparison, but a comparison.

[@garrycroft4215]

If it’s close to £30k then good luck selling many. If it’s closer to £25k then they are on to a winner.

[@mrgrumpy771]

Chrome was always shiny plastic. Range actually likely to be 200 miles. Boot is ok but won’t take shopping plus grandsons push chair. Good to see buttons though. But killer is the price. Way too expensive as always.

[@alastairwilliams3623]

Jacks enthusiasm for this piece of mediocrity is most impressive

[@alexishart1989]

LOL, indeed. I met the guy at Everything Electric Sydney. He's exactly the same upbeat guy in real life.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

Every car he reviews is the best one ever.

[@user-aRb00d3r]

damn he's good at what he's doing innit

[@tigerv88]

Screams vanilla at me inside and out, and not sure for the price it does stand up to competition, especially with more used EVs on the market at decent prices. It may serve to be a good all round option but it feels to me a bit underwhelming.

[@judebrown4103]

Ah, there you are Jack, people need you to be Nicola's regular tall person, if you wouldnt mind making yourself available. Because some of them haven't worked out they can just watch your review too! 😄😂 Many of them will have followed me over though. 👍

[@markgamble3786]

My father used to own a Vauxhall Frontera back in the 90's but his was a 4x4 diesel lol

[@mrmawson2438]

I had a Nova and a Astra

[@Rich.enDorseit]

As soon as I saw those seats, I thought that's like a cycle seat. Good to know that not only when riding a bike or driving this car, there is a reduced risk of a erectile dysfunction issue!

[@arkitecofficial]

Jack forgot to button up this jumper

[@mikehorner2049]

It’s a re-badged Peugeot 2008e

[@biggobmalc8118]

Vauxhall a car that's fundamentally a brand only sold in the UK, why did they decide to use a left-hand drive example when promoting this new model. You would have thought a motor manufacturer that purports to pay so much attention to small details they could have at least used a right and version. Just saying

[@user-rf2qt8ou8w]

Agree, lots of current car tv adverts show lhd cars- even think they arent even filmed in the uk plus they have the audacity to print on screen " not to uk spec or model not available in uk " - so i would not purchase from that manufacturer on principle if they take this lazy attitude towards impressing the uk public with some of their models/specs that we cannot even buy as if oh well its only the uk they wont mind that they just a downrated specification from other markets!

[@edwardlloyd1516]

A pre-production car like this cost hundreds of thousands to make and even then it won't work properly. It will have been hand built in Russelsheim as an Opel. Change the badges, ship it to England for a week and you have the UK press teaser car. Then back to Germany for more work. It's an Opel. They're sold in the UK, badged as Vauxhalls to pander to our zenophobia.

[@speakatron5634]

@@edwardlloyd1516 Nailed it. Vauxhall, Opel. Tomato, tomato.

[@jamesengland7461]

​@user-rf2qt8ou8w what's funny is that in the US we get ads from German makes with "European spec model shown" silliness. For a car that's already built and sold in American spec, could you not video that one?

[@biggobmalc8118]

@@edwardlloyd1516 They may very well be Opel’s or even a Peugeot, as Vauxhall - Opel are now part of the Stellantis group and badged as A Vauxhall, so why pretend that it is something that it's not. As for pandering to our xenophobia what's wrong with us in this country having our own identity, there's nothing xenophobic in that whatsoever.

[@MorrisTart]

Rear charging port 🌝 Physical buttons 🌝 Sensible screen size 🌝 Hot key to turn off Lane Annoy 🌝Physical key to start 🌝

[@peacem8574]

Remember the fun cars Opel used to build? Like the Astra OPC/VXR? All gone.

[@SteveLoughran]

My Mk II Astra didn’t make the fun cut. But given the plans for an electric Renault 5, maybe it’s time for Vauxhall to give us the electric Cavalier SRi while VW brings out a proper successor to the mkII golf GTi rather than SUVs with a “GTX” suffix

[@MrAdopado]

@@SteveLoughran It clearly wasn't a 16v GTE then!

[@SteveLoughran]

@@MrAdopado 1.4L. Unlike its predecessor a British leyland B reg mini it did actually reach its destination reliably. Which is why I’m less worried about EV range: as long as I charge mine up every 150+ miles I will get home. Whereas on the mini it was always up in the air.

[@paulodell]

Is there a Full Charged review of the Maxus t90ev?

[@_a.z]

Looks like our old Hillman Husky!

[@kenndo9906]

A good review of tripe....

[@Reis05]

I'm just here for the sneakers 🔥 🔥

[@issigonis975]

It came across like one of those sales pitches you have to watch while waiting for your service to finish. When it is that price you need to be brutally honest as it is a lot of money for anyone but the wealthy to have hanging around their necks as a loan with negative equity, as it will depreciate as soon as it is driven off the forecourt.

[@xxwookey]

0:38 You forgot 'most popular electric van' (Vivaro, I believe, 3 years running).

[@gyorgyl6872]

They should create a modern, fresh application that works before they come out with a new copy-paste car.

[@pauls3075]

It wont do 250 miles on a charge though will it. We know from experience the battery only charges to 80% and wont go below 20% so you will get 150 miles MAX then a 26 minute recharge (20-80) from their own website! No a/c in summer no heating in winter and no passengers.

[@juxty3102]

Alot of the comments here questioning whether a £30k car is cheap and others countering with taking account of inflation. The key question is people's wages and purchasing power compared to earlier times and the present.

[@monty6491]

FYI speed assist and other driver aids are legally mandatory for all new models, it's not just NCAP

[@richardnedbalek1968]

07:58 👍 LIKE if you’re glad that Jack’s cheeks are satisfied! 🤣

[@mystisith3984]

Not bad. I'm seeing traits of the new Citroën bodystyling.

[@demonic082]

I never thought we would see the Frontera name again. Or has enough time passed that people don't remember how bad the old one was

[@ScottLaurie]

First. Also is this going to be at Everything Electric North?

[@AutoReport1]

No chrome is not a Stellantis policy, it's an EU directive.

[@keithhooper6123]

Could use stainless or anodized aluminum.

[@javelinXH992]

That’s not quite correct. It only applies to chromium (VI) plating operations. You can still use chromium (III) plating or bring in items that are chromium (VI) plating from outside the EU.

[@davidburgin9290]

So GM killed off the Holden badge in Australia only to use the Frontera name in England? 😂

[@ivorholtskog5506]

Only in Vancouver in Canada? What about the rest on the country?

[@KAZUYADOG]

Knitting needle type aerial gives you idea that car is cheap looking.

[@apterachallenge]

If only we could get these cars in Australia. GM axed Holden in 2021, which was the badge placed on Vauxhalls up to that time, and Stellantis seems to only send us Peugeots and Citroens. Perhaps that's because they are all the same cars anyway, and Australia is too small a market to send every Stellantis brand under the sun.

[@urbanstrencan]

They missed it with the Frontera name, Frontera should be used for rugged 4wd EVs, maybe even that iconic pickup design :)

[@stephsoltesz6731]

Stellantis needs to take Vauhaul GLOBAL - We NEED these in Canada !

[@rickybryan1759]

It’s a pity the Holden brand is t around to slap on these babies

[@t1n4444]

Really? Might be too small for comfort over a long trip. Not quite fifty years ago I drove (four up) from Cape to Joberg in a Nissan 120Y. A thousand miles in twenty hours on quite acceptable roads. Never, never ever again. Suggest you stick with those seven seater KIA sort of SUVs. The front seats are more like the ones found in Club class. European type cars fine for Europe, obviously, but not entirely sure they work in "big" countries.

[@av_oid]

@@rickybryan1759Citroën, Peugeot, Fiat and “Jeep” are still in Australia from Stellantis.

[@rickybryan1759]

@@av_oid yeah but they ain’t Holden’s

[@sjcsystems]

Odd how Dan Caesar makes statements that companies that continue to make hybrids cannot be taken seriously, yet here we have another advertorial for a legacy car maker doing exactly that. Cars like this need to be made without a transmission tunnel and not with bits for other power sources. Are FCL afraid to criticize these days?

[@freeform33]

Those seats look ideal for someone with piles or flatulence 👍🤓

[@SnakeBiteCC]

Where have I seen that shape before? A, it's a Citroën ë-C3... Just slightly redesigned...

[@ST-ur7oh]

I appreciate you’re a big lad but the inside looks tiny with you seated - good review

[@nickbowers]

does CHEAP in CAPITALS really = £30,000 ?

[@mralistair737]

yes

[@DanielBull]

Yes, cars got real expensive recently unfortunately

[@kalebdaark100]

Well, according to the Vauxhall web site, a petrol Crossland will cost you: 1.2 Turbo Petrol 130PS Automatic 6 gears PETROL, Automatic , 96 KW £30,345 OR £332.8 per month 1.2 Turbo Petrol 110PS Manual 6 gears PETROL, Manual , 81 KW £28,205 OR £306.7 per month So maybe not "CHEAP" but about what you would expect i guess.

[@mralistair737]

Also in 1990 the original frontera was £12k.. which adjusted for inflation is £30.5k. new cars are never cheap cheap. at least this one will be cheap to run.

[@JarmelSingsKaraoke]

🔥🔥🔥

[@bill_heywood]

If the Frontera is a C-segment crossover EV for £30k, why on Earth is the Astra a C-segment hatchback for £40k? Vauxhall’s pricing is mad

[@marvin3935]

No, Frontera is low-cost in all aspects (LFP cells from SVOLT/China, Indian C3 basis, Slovakia production). Astra is positioned as German premium out of Rüsselsheim.

[@bill_heywood]

@@marvin3935 has no one told Vauxhall/Opel that they are not premium, at all, regardless of where the factory is?

[@marvin3935]

@@bill_heywood Banks (IPO) and unions are telling them differently. Especially, Italians under Meloni and FdI seem to be convinced of Maserati, Lancia, Alfa qualifying for price premiums. Look how they triggered renaming of Alfa Milano to Junior, just because of Polish production.

[@user-to2rf1rj5v]

4:34 I love how Jack will rail against Tesla if they miss even 20hp behind another fast EV competitor, but then tell everyone to stop putting real HP in their EV's. lolol

[@anthonydyer3939]

‘£30k’, ‘car’ and ‘cheap’ don’t go together in the same sentence. 10 years ago a cheap new car was £7k (pre reg with discount): A Citroen C1. An ideal city car, for low mileage drivers. EVs are perfectly suited to city cars, but it’s a shame you can’t get one brand new for less than £10k. The Dacia Spring is the best effort so far in Europe, but there’s still much work to go. Bring us the Wuling Mini EV! Yes prices have gone up, but wages haven’t kept up.

[@robertjb001]

I agree, a few years earlier before the scrappage scheme, Astras and Focus' were under £11k, after £15-16k

[@logicalChimp]

Helps to compare like with like, not e.g. Micra against SUV. that 7k would not have gotten you a C-segment SUV with multiple options pre-installed (which is what *all* EVs end up being).

[@anthonydyer3939]

@@logicalChimp sadly you can’t compare like with like. The vw e-up is no longer sold brand new (last new price was ~£20k for reference). Same with all other small city cars I know. Thus you have a certain clientele for small new cars finding out they either have to get a bigger car, make do with what they have, buy 2nd hand or go without completely My main point thus stands: Driving is a lot less affordable now

[@xxwookey]

Didn't Fronteras used to be massive tanks in the Range rover mould? This thing seems quite small in comparison.

[@harleyhughes6220]

would be a nice upgrade from my little vauxhall viva :)

[@kodak_jack]

"And it's raining".

[@TopblokeGolf]

Or just look out for brand deals from car manufacturers that need to sell a certain amonut of Eva’s. Brand new mgs often sell for 22 grand

[@80y3r9]

When I was growing up astra was a mid sized car and it was the size of the Corsa, what is wrong with pol

[@IdaGSol]

Towing hook? Ski hatch? IF not, impossible to sell in Nordic coumtries... Why not looking when having a full car up front?!

[@redaanalla9458]

The naming shenanigans is so confusing either the company should be called vauxhall or opel not both 😭😭

[@Trylk1138]

We were extremely lucky to get our new e208 for 26k then

[@human_brian]

These are the kinds of things we need in the US/NA right now. Cars are massively overpriced and just plain massive. We need affordable and efficient family vehicles that don't cost an arm and a leg to buy, insure, or run. No idea why Stellantis isn't bringing these types of vehicles to NA yet but they really should. Slap a Jeep badge on this thing and they'd sell millions.

[@adrianthoroughgood1191]

I don't call £30K cheap when the Spring is £16K.

[@Nikoo033]

The car seems to tick boxes: physical buttons for climate, decent boot and space at the back. USB ports where needed. However I wish they’d communicate about the battery size. 250 miles range WLTP (probably 200 miles real range) is good enough, but we need to know battery size to work out driving efficiency and therefore running costs… £30k seems too expensive considering that they use the same platform for several models. Legacy manufacturers don’t get it: if you keep trying to milk customers, they’ll go somewhere else.

[@yorkshirejags7410]

It has to be sub 30k.