NEW Garmin Xero C1 Pro Chronograph

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Will you be buying a Garmin Xero? thumbs up and subscribe please. My Mistake: You can edit/delete shots on the bulletseeker.

[@seanhines5721]

Have the other two already. Just ordered the Garmin.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@@seanhines5721 Haha same here. why does this crap have to cost so much?!

[@jdrollason]

​@@PrecisionRifleNetworkI agree with you but at the same time, since I had a Labradar and comparable units are several hundred dollars more, I think this is very affordable and in a package that I can comfortably travel with.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@@jdrollason yeah the size of the Garmin is a big selling point.

[@bigcountry2644]

Ordered the Garmin and the 180mm mount off Amazon both will arrive Monday. Excited as this will be my first radar style chrono.

[@georgewilson60]

Great video! Ordered one direct from Garmin last night, none of the radar chrono really appealed to me until this one!!

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@SEOKLADUCKIN]

Bought one as well Works perfectly, hasn't missed a shot

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Cool. Thanks for the comment.

[@ianmatteson482]

Ordered mine. Was notified of this and late to the party. Found out about it 20 hours late it’s sold out everywhere. I’m on pre order for next shipment next month 💪🏻

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@lukeclement1981]

The garmin is slice bread. I picked one up yesterday. Get one! No more cold fingers in the winter messing with a magneto

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Nice 👍

[@biglemms]

Nice thorough video. Finally have my Xero coming from "Uncle Larry" also.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Nice 👍

[@thedirtygot9570]

Been shooting for 50 years, finally decided to stop trusting what the makers put on the box! Saw this thing and I now have my first chronograph! Got six different loads for my new 6.5 creed, ammo makers beware😂(looking at you hornady)😂 can’t wait to start testing! Very easy to get running, set up Garmin express on my MacBook, needed a software update, that took maybe 2 mins! Ready to roll

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Nice 👍

[@timothybarry508]

Already have a LR and MagnetoSpeed. MagnetoSpeed has been 100% dependable. LR, even with an external trigger and aiming scope, has been quite finicky. It's also easy to forget to arm the LR and the downrange velocities are often spotty. All my shooting buddies with LR have stories about its reliability; yeah it works, mostly. With its size, tripod and extra batteries, I needed a hard case for transport & storage vs the pocket-sized Garmin. My first trip to the range with my Garmin was amazing. No missed shots, just turn on, point and shoot. Fired 100 rounds testing 22 LR ammo; not a missed shot. Until further notice, my LR will be dust gathering and my MagnetoSpeed in the trunk for backup if ever needed.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Nice. I agree with your assessment.

[@RyanCheneyELR]

I have zero issues with my LabRadar running the quad pod. I won’t be running out to get the garmin any time soon I’m totally content with my LR. That being said, LR is going to have to do some serious R&D to stay relevant in the market.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I will say, my LabRadar needed your quadpod in order to operate consistently.

[@EagleEyeShooting]

If you like paying baggage fees , lugging around that brick and tripod and wasting shots on occasional misreads. Labradar.

[@RyanCheneyELR]

@@EagleEyeShootingI haven’t had a misread in years. Just have to know how to aim it.

[@amym828]

Oh man, and here I was beginning to think I was the only one still satisfied with my LabRadar and not going to rush out to buy one of these. Also, definitely quadpod for the win

[@lemonhartsour]

Totally agree. I don’t get all the issues guys complain about with aiming the LabRadar. I’ve never had an issue, aiming is literally a 30 second process. I use a GorillaPod tripod for it, and it works flawlessly.

[@andrewforward3812]

BulletSeeker => you can delete each individual shoot, during detection or later in the string you can also cut parts of the detection of each individual shot

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Ah thank you. I don’t know how, but it’s good to know that it does.

[@briansupermag3918]

You are correct its an amazing system. Love my BS mach 4

[@jdrollason]

I should be able to pick mine up Tuesday. I cant wait

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Sweet. I think you're going to enjoy it.

[@chrisdriner]

Got one for 599 from scheels and will be here on the 25th - I think this thing is going to take over the market for chonos - selling my magnetospeed

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I agree. Will make LabRadar obsolete and will force a competitive price on the bulletseeker. In my opinion.

[@mattchilders3123]

I wouldn't sell my Magnetospeed yet.... Just saying.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@@mattchilders3123 noted. ;)

[@turbogrinch]

On the iOS app for the bulletseeker / speedtracker you can actually delete single shots from the strings and you can also "cut" away parts (spikes) of the measurements within a single shot.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I did not know that. Thanks!

[@DerekRC]

Thanks for the review. I'll stick with my pro chrono with BT. Works great for my needs.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

yep. thanks for watching.

[@gregoryjackson6166]

Great job! Mine is scheduled to arrive 10/24. I hope to test it this week. Thanks for the tutorial. Semper Fi G.Jackson, MPA MSGT/USMC, Ret.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Thanks for watching sir.

[@longrangeprecisionshooters8935]

Great video, holmes! Thanks for the overview

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

You bet!

[@bcextremeoutdoorsman]

Good video ! I built a mount for mine like the Area 419 with just stuff I had laying around the house, it looks and works awesome.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Very cool!

[@trevorhawkins8757]

Seems like the best option on the market. I don't really care about tracking pistol velocities, and my MagnetoSpeed V3 just doesn't seem to quit working so it's tough to upgrade.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Nothing wrong with magnetospeed if you don’t mind the setup process.

[@katashi222]

​@@PrecisionRifleNetworkIt's simple and easy.

[@44smithnut]

Already have mine and absolutely love it.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

👍

[@RockinRack]

Got one on backorder supposed to get more tomorrow so fingers crossed. I dont need a chrono really but it would be nice, so with that said im not going to spend a ton of money on one and im not going to buy a cheap bulky one or something that requires set up. But this fits my needs perfectly. I can just toss it up on the bench and record data for each rifle and know my applied ballistics is going to need less adjustments to get it dialed in.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Sounds like a good plan to me. Hope you enjoy it.

[@ArgenTheWolf]

At the range today I made friend with a man who is using this device. I like it 👍.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Nice 👍

[@ArgenTheWolf]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork I ordered this device today to work with my reloading, and it's available in next few days while most stores asked in waiting list for weeks. The Garmin company should pay you a bit of money because of this video clip. Thanks.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@@ArgenTheWolf Thanks for watching. Glad you are able to get one and don't have to wait very long.

[@michaelhill6451]

If the price comes down a couple hundred bucks, I will definitely pick one up.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I'm guessing when the shine wears off there will be some deals to be found. Maybe black friday or similar?

[@enayetchowdhury105]

My magnetospeed v3 going for sale soon. Placed order on Garmin today. Thank you.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Nice. I’m guessing you’ll like the Garmin.

[@idahoron]

Chronographs, where do i begin? I've had a Oehler 35 for over 25 years. The 35 was the best that could be bought. Most hunters don't need a chronograph to get a deer. The chronograph could be looked at as a luxury. I shoot an Air Arms TX200 22cal pellet gun. After thousands of rounds it wasn't shooting right. The Oehler was only reading about 1 in 5 shots. I got the Garmin Xero and it read EVERY shot, even shooting at night. I had a failure in my compression tube. The velocity was all over the place. After diagnosis the new compression tube was replaced and the gun was back to shooting perfectly. I've also chronographed my shotgun, it worked. The Garmin is a great chronograph.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Nice, glad you found one you like. I'm loving my Garmin as well.

[@johnathanreckrodt2937]

You said you mounted it under your barrel upside down. The alignment said it needs to at least 5” outside the barrel. This is probably why Area419 made theirs go outside the barrel.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Did you watch the video?

[@johnathanreckrodt2937]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork obviously I watched the video or else I wouldn’t have seen this. 🤦🏻

[@UtahCGG]

Had my Labradar out for the 2nd time last weekend and about 20% of my shots were errors. I returned it this afternoon... I'll be buying this one instead.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Yep that’s common unfortunately.

[@Frostytravels]

Good thing is, when attached with the arca, you can use your phone so it is corrected. Just look at phone and if the device is upside down its ok. Seems like a great product.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

cool, thanks for watching.

[@TheThirdH]

I don’t know that I’d sell off Chrono’s before more reporting comes out now that more user reviews are coming. I believe the Garmin is a great unit and the app integration seems to be there initially. There are some deeper data collection and usability features that I’d like to see implemented though from a user standpoint like these - ability to start/create sessions directly from the phone app - the ability to have data sync in realtime while shooting on the phone - the ability to edit and add shots to a previous session after closing it out without the need to create a new dataset - the ability to log down range velocity at set intervals (i.e. MV/25/50/75/100 readings) - ability to show data in chart/graph forms - ability to calculate true BC based on G1/G7/4DOF models - some sort of developmental roadmap to look towards for potential features that are being added These are some feature available in the FX Ballistics Chrono and presumably they should be able to be implemented via firmware/software updates in the Garmin unit. If so, i think this would really solidify this as the one to get maybe. All that said, i already ordered a Garmin unit that should arrive this week.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Thanks. Good comment. valid points.

[@claywynn4507]

How well does it work measuring pistol bullet velocities?

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Works well. I have a second video here on the channel where I tested that.

[@wm973]

What a great product! It has not missed a 22 cal / 9mm / pellet pistol shot yet. It did record a 0fps from a guy next to me but that was the only problem so far. This ain't cheap but I always wondered if my flyers were me or the ammo. When I get a high fps my shots are high. Low fps does not seem to bother it as much as a high fps shot? Ran into a problem that the sessions I would shoot do not show on the phone? They use to but now I can't seem to get it on my phone. I just reinstalled the shotview app so hopefully that will fix it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Thanks for all your vids.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Appreciate the comments. Thanks for watching. I agree with you...great product. I haven't had any issues with mine so far.

[@Worldoversea]

Nicely done video, been trying to find it, you mentioned a side mount on amazon that you purchased. Can you please advise on a link. Thank you.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Just search amazon for “nodal slide rail”. You’ll want atleast the 140mm length.

[@proxr440pilot]

@PrecisionRifleNetwork Looking at the now absolutely flooded used magnetospeed and labradar market which would be your pick? There are countless used V3’s with mounts for sub $300 and used labradars with accessories for $300-400.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Man flip a coin. 🤷🏻‍♂️ LR is great when it works and doesn’t drop shots. Magn will work consistently, but requires setup and alignment and negatively affects barrel harmonics. If I were forced to choose, I’d go LabRadar.

[@proxr440pilot]

I appreciate the response. I understand the harmonic issues with the magneto but there are many many v3’s WITH mounts, wiser & mk machine, for $250ish. I’m also watching several for sale ads on sites like snipershide, long range hunters, etc for Labradars with tripod, aiming device, battery pack for $325-$350. Most of these ads are OBO as well so could probably get them a little cheaper.

[@douglasbattjes3991]

Have a LR also, use the trigger switch but this one sure looks interesting, and great video, why not use a ARKA main rail and put 2 of the quick adapters on each end so you can mount it on a 90 degs. angle to the barrel, then it would sit right side up and you can read it. Like how compact it is, pocket size, did I miss how you align it, or how do you ? wait to see the rest of your videos, Well done 👍👍👍👍

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

thanks for watching. This was just the first initial impressions video. I didn't have the proper mount yet. There's a second followup video where I had a proper mount.

[@mattchilders3123]

I already like it better than the mounting options on the bulletseeker/speed tracker. I had trouble tracking with the bullet seeker/speed tracker. It was much fussier.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

My main problem with the bulletseeker has been ghost shots. It’ll just randomly pick up extra shots out of nowhere.

[@j6077xxd]

Bulletseeker can definitely edit shots in your string in the app. Super easy.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

thx. check pinned comment.

[@bmstylee]

All right. Joel got a new chrono. I bought a new gun. It's a good day all around.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

lol cool. what gun did you get?

[@bmstylee]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Sig 226 Elite. Plus it came with 2 boxes of defense ammo and my local shop had 10% off all Sig guns, optics, and silencers. Not a bad deal. I took it out with my Shadow 2 and SP 01 tactical. It's amazing how much lighter it is than my all steel CZs which are 47 and 43 ounces respectively. I thought about the Legion but I just couldn't justify the additional $300.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@@bmstylee Nice sounds like you got a good deal. I have the X carry legion with heavy frame. It's an excellent pistol, but I'm not sure it's worth what they charge for it. LOL

[@PassionforRifles]

That will be the new king of dobbler radars.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

yeah it's pretty nice. guess we'll see.

[@TheAnzel360]

I’m also excited to try it for archery.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Same 👍

[@knighthawk6633]

Thank you for the video. Can you send a link or name of the arm that you found on Amazon? Thx

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Haoge Nodal Slide Rail 140mm. I believe they are currently sold out. LOL my fault 🤦🏻‍♂️ But also look for Leofoto nodal slide rails.

[@talkingrock7011]

We can hope that the price will be lower than projected and it works as advertised

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I agree. I think they’re going to sell the crap out of these at the current price, but I also don’t think they’re worth $600. Chronographs in general shouldn’t cost over $400 in my opinion.

[@rodgermcadoo5631]

You seemed to imply that entering the bullet weight in the Pro mode would increase the accuracy. My guess is it needs the bullet weight if you want it to display muzzle energy - it can't measure that, but with the measured velocity and known bullet weight, it can calculate the energy.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

without going back and rewatching this video....I think all I was trying to say was basically the same thing you're saying...that if we include the bullet weight, then the unit can calculate the energy.

[@rodgermcadoo5631]

Yeah I should've deleted my comment. Later in the video you did mention that. I apologize. Great video and this is the chronograph I've been waiting for - plan to buy soon!

[@trmentry]

I'm hoping to pick one of this up soon to be able to chrono my reloads for my 9mm Major Open pistol to make sure I can hit PF. Shout out from Phx from a former CoMo kid. I miss Shakes Pizza. 😀

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Nice. Shakespeare’s is good!

[@MrMantraMan]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Good? Try great

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@@MrMantraMan I'm a transplant to CoMo and what I can tell you is that Columbia people LOVE their Shakespear's pizza. I like it, but I spent 7 years in Chicagoland and Giordanos pizza has set a pretty high bar in my mind.

[@lacrossed55]

Hey, just wanted to comment on "update speed". I took mine to an indoor range yesterday. After my first session it asked to update. I did let it go while I was reloading mags and it completed. So it was no more than 2 minutes.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Nice. Mine seemed to take forever. I'm not great with technology though.

[@MMBRM]

The garmin doesn't allow you to accurately calculate your bullet BC like the Labradar does by giving you speeds at multiple distances. The garmin also "appears" to work like the labradar when it is set in doppler mode instead of trigger mode. This mode on the labradar has been less accurate in my experience. Another drawback on the garmin is the internal integrated battery. It will degrade over time giving you less and less charge. The fact you can use any USB external power pack with the labradar is a plus. So there are definitely still some advantages for the labradar. As long as my labradar is working I see no need to buy one of these but if it ever dies or if I was picking between the two for a new purchase the form factor of the garmin is a big plus. I think they needed a lower price if they really wanted to take a larger market share.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I agree it should cost less. You can run the Garmin off a battery pack. Thanks for watching.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@Klemheist thanks

[@cdavison9491]

I know quite a few people that have already sold their labradar after buying the garmin. As for price, it is high, but they're out-of-stock pretty much everywhere, so I dont expect any price drops soon. midsouth shooters supply has dropped their price on labradars 100 though..

[@bryanmise5105]

Hi new to the channel, this product caught my eye.. first great presentation and information. I did have a question. It is a radar? can is track projectiles down range at set distances like the lab radar? Thanks In advanced.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

My understanding is that it tracks the projectile within a given distance,(maybe 25ft ?) but it’s not like the LabRadar. The Garmin doesn’t track the shot at further distances.

[@JaHui513]

On a 22 I can imagine little impact, but i can see issues with std dev and accurate readings when the radar is mounted on the rifle. I would doubt that it accounts for recoil, but then again, i havent used it. I am familiar with the world of radar and its unlikely they arent accounting for variables being: muzzle brake, barrel length, loads, caliber, etc.just some thoughts.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

thanks for watching.

[@andrewhurstcars]

Doesn’t seem to be on sale yet in Europe.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Interesting. Soon hopefully.

[@andrewhurstcars]

@@PrecisionRifleNetworkglad I didn’t buy a Lab radar!

[@charleshaynes815]

I had held off on getting a lab radar. I expect to get this one with the Area 419 mount

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Nice. I'm guessing you'll love it.

[@M-E-O]

Great video. Big thanks! Can you tell me more about the used rifle in small calibre? Or better, please do a video about it. Cheers!

[@22Really]

I love my lab radar, I don't think I'll be replacing it anytime soon but that Garmin is really really cool!!

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Cool. Thanks for watching.

[@joshuagibson2520]

The chrony I'm most impressed with these days is the FX True Ballistic. Definitley pricy at $999, but I think the features justify it.

[@joshuagibson2520]

Calculates BC. Velocities at several distances. (I believe you can tell it for example to track out to 500 yards and give a velocity for every 20 yards. Or whatever parameters you want)

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I never got a chance to play with that one. 👍

[@jaredanderson2009]

Fingers crossed they survive for ya now that 98% of the markets buying this Garmin 😅

[@PrecisionDavePlumbingMore]

Was looking at getting an FX, then I saw the Garmin, but I believe for $400 more for the FX is totally worth it. Wished the Garmin added BC to their software

[@nilescoyote4829]

Any idea if you are able to resume a session at a later time? Thanks for the video.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Yes. As long as you don’t end the session, it appears you can continue it later.

[@schutzear1533]

Hallo Sir, very good Video! I have a question about the new device when it is mounted on the side of the rifle or on a tripod: What about recording when I use a muzzle break with side openings? Are there any problems with recording? I had some with Labradar and bullet seeker. Thank you very much for making these videos.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Just tested this today actually. No problems with muzzle brake at all. I’ve got a second video coming where I test a bunch of different guns.

[@CableDawg496]

Thanks for the video. What side mount did you order? Area 419 but $145???

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

search Amazon for "slide nodal rail" the 140mm seems to be perfect. $25.00

[@CableDawg496]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork thanks!!

[@JPUND]

Where did you find an arca arm on Amazon replace the area 419 adapter arm?

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Search for “slide nodal rail”. Options should pop up on the first page.

[@georgeclarke4235]

Nice. @@PrecisionRifleNetwork mine garmin will be here Tuesday. Just orded the rail.

[@vikp6115]

Question i have area 419 sells bracket thst connects garmin to ur rifle with their bracket , but nowhere on garmin website states it can handle recoil from the gun if its connected to the rifle !?

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Hmm 🤔 I’m guessing it’ll be fine, as many folks have tested it on rifles over the past few months prior to its release, but I guess you never know.

[@johngunn4573]

I have the new Xero C1. Going thru setup and I'm only seeing 4 days fields. I think in your vid you have 5. I've performed the software update. Any ideas? Thanks

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

In settings, I only show 4 data fields, but when you're done shooting and you're viewing the string summary it'll show five. Minimum, maximum, average, extreme spread, and standard deviation.

[@robinsok]

Does tbe Garmin provide downrange velocities in addition to muzzle velocities, like the Labradar does?

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Not that I can tell.

[@dustyblack1855]

Will this need a shot trigger like the LabRadar does for suppressed shooting?

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

No. This picks everything up. I’ve tested suppressed subsonic pistol and even airsoft.

[@rufturbo997]

How much data is saved on the unit? With the Labradar you have an SD slot to save data. Now maybe the Garmin will save everything to the phone and that would be OK but if the data disappeared when you turn the Garmin off, that would be a no go for me.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

It saves on the Garmin, but I’m not sure about the capacity. It can also save to the phone. You can also export CSV files.

[@rufturbo997]

@PrecisionRifleNetwork thanks for your reply. I save ALL my data on the computer and then massage it and using the SD card makes it simple. It kind of sounds like I would have to save to phone and somehow transfer that to the computer. I don't have any problems with the LabRadar but I sure like the size of the Garmin.

[@kentac1911]

Great review!!

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@erickelley5603]

Any chance you could share the link or name of the Arca mount for this you found on Amazon? I’m coming up empty handed. I bought the last one at Bass Pro based on your review. (Terminus Zeus also BTW)

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

on Amazon search for Rail Nodal Slide. They should come right up. 140mm is as short as I would go. I have the 120mm and it's maybe a touch too small.

[@cheech1557]

What Arca arm did you order? Did it work?

[@michaelbutler4961]

When you mount it under the barrel and use the app on your phone will the phone flip the image?

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

The phone flips, but it doesn’t matter because the info from the Garmin doesn’t show up on the phone until you “end your session “on the chrono.

[@davidnuttall-y7l]

Ryan Cheney has a great video on Garmin Xero & LabRadar LX

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I’ve seen it. Thx.

[@donbarile8916]

rechargable battery, but is it built in or replaceable? Midway doesn't show a battery replacement. Can you use an external battery pack? my rule of thumb: wait for the reviews to come in before buying anything generation 1.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

you can use an external battery pack. I don't see a way to replace the internal battery.

[@justinw7698]

Have a link for the arca ball head adapter

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

No sorry.

[@autoxinvr]

Since there's a phone app, it doesn't really matter if it's ran upside down. All the information displays to the phone anyway haha.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

That was my thought. I’ll be using a better mount now. Just wanted to get something out there for video.

[@TMFShooting]

Great Video 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Thanks! 😃

[@wldott]

You can delete those random shots on the Speed Tracker from the string page

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Thank you. other folks have been telling me. I had no idea. lol

[@hank3152]

Any way you can transfer the data so you can print it out like the V3 or LR?

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

you can export CSV files

[@jaredanderson2009]

This is one of the things at the top of my list now for sure! Bye bye to all the other chronograph companies lol

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Yeah it’s going to be very popular.

[@kythes8]

Thank you Sir

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Most welcome

[@briansupermag3918]

This will definitely be a huge challenge for LR but the bullet seeker mach 4 is just a better system. Streamline for actually being useful in a match compared to being offset which makes Zero sense 😂. This will hit the lab radar hard but I just can't see how it will compete with the mach 4 and now 4+. If your on a budget yes this is probably the best option. But if you want the best its still the Bullet Seeker Mach 4 and 4+

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I have loved my bulletseeker. Works great most of the time. My issue has been ghost shots. Just randomly picks up extra shots. Even still, the bulletseeker isn’t worth $800-$1000. It should be priced down with the other good chronos in my opinion.

[@briansupermag3918]

@PrecisionRifleNetwork ghost shots??? Weird. Mine has been perfect. Only thing I do is go from the parabolic adapter to being off. That's it. But the power of this radar puts it first. If money is a concern I agree this garmin is probably the answer. If not I just find the BS mach 4 is just better. I hate stands like LR and now this garmin but atleast it's smaller. But it would probably been better at a more affordable price to take that lr market. Probably not worth the 600 but if it was 400 it would of been better. Just different strokes for different folks. I'll have to continue to see how some shooter buddies like it at the range. I can't even imagine replacing my BS with this.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@@briansupermag3918 sounds good. thanks for watching.

[@dennispeltier6142]

FX has a new chronograph that tracks from muzzle in 25-yard increments to 100, 1k dolllars😊

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I’ve seen those, just don’t own one. Thanks for watching.

[@johnathanreckrodt2937]

It only measures to 4k fps though. Pretty much throws out 22-250 and 204 then.

[@jasonrad9332]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

thanks

[@brianwood7882]

I have a 30+ year old Oehler 35P still going strong even the ink pad. Bought a LabRadar. Put the sight on it, external battery. I HATE it. Missed shots, muzzle brake concussion knocks it out of alignment.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

exactly. sad.

[@chrisfisher3900]

Not a bad idea actually. Figure there will be a few people run it under the gun in front of the bipod just to keep it out of the way. Especially if you can see the info on your phone or ipad

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

that was my thought since I didn't have a proper mount. I've got a cheap but good mount now. positions it correctly off to the side of the rifle. $25 on amazon.

[@johnathanreckrodt2937]

@@PrecisionRifleNetworkgot a link to this?

[@davidnuttall-y7l]

we need a video comparing the Garmin Xero to the new LabRadar LX

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

check out Ryan Cheney ELR youtube channel. I think he did that one.

[@davidnuttall-y7l]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork thanks for tip ; he has an excellent review with both rifles and handguns.He favours the LX primarily because of the material and weight of it vs, the Xero plastic construction otherwise equal in every other way Only one negative thing I have to say is the AD for the LX quotes the price in USdollars which I find confusing as I am Canadian. LabRadar LX for me :)

[@seanfrazer4589]

RIP lab Radar

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

yes, I agree.

[@kurtjensen7930]

The price is crazy high! I was hoping like 300-400$$

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I personally agree with you. It’s small, lightweight, and plastic after all. I think $300-400 is where it should be priced, but I think they were smart to price it similarly to the LabRadar.

[@kurtjensen7930]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork would have ruled the market if significantly cheaper.

[@Majeskty]

Agreed, price needed to be lower to rule the market. Pricing near the LabRadar pricing seems just wrong. Other than the price, it sure looks like an improvement of other chronograph’s. Curious on how it will work with pistols from a standing position and how people set it up on the mini tripod, full tripod or just a tube extension on the mini tripod when shooting at the indoor range, placed on the table in front of the lane shooting and shooting above it. Definitely has the curiousness for size, being so portable and how well it works overall.

[@jaredanderson2009]

Crazy high would be the bullet seeker and those other $1000 chronographs that are now irrelevant. I’d say this is just high but I don’t blame them, Garmins not known for being a budget powerhouse and if a $600 product that’s inferior to the one your bringing to market is currently dominating the field, why would you price it less than that. To be clear though I wish it was in that magnetospeed price point too, be patient though, we will have a brand come forward with one soon enough

[@kurtjensen7930]

@@BoltActionsOnly I’ll stick to magneto speed! It works for me.

[@scarter176]

A color display would be nice

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I’m guessing that would raise the cost…

[@yukon4545]

Gotta believe the recoil would mess it up if attached to a larger caliber. I d k.🤷

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Yeah I guess we’ll see. I’ll try it with 338LM for the next vid.

[@katashi222]

Is there an app instead of all these expensive gadgets??? To th read shots!!!

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

You definitely don’t need a chronograph. I made a video about it. Sorry I don’t have time to search back for it right now.

[@DB-be9wy]

$599 buys a LOT of freaking bullets man. Hard to justify this device on that alone. I'd love to retire my magnetospeed but it cost enough when I bought it new when they first came out. They are a pita to use but they do work well enough to justify NOT spending $599 on the Garmin...

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

yep, if you already have something that works for you, there's really no reason to switch. Unless you just have the extra coin laying around. Thanks for watching.

[@j6077xxd]

How this thing performs with big flippin muzzle brake will be its real test. Labradar and bulletseeker both suffer there.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I’ll test that in the next video.

[@DinoNucci]

Wait for gen 2

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

gen 2 of the Garmin?

[@DinoNucci]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork yeah (imo)

[@nicholasclarence]

Why wait ,?

[@yaudtube]

Shotgun?

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

yes, I'll try. I'm guessing it won't know which projectile to pick up on...? No idea, but I'll try.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

slugs should work for sure

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

update: it read 20g #7 birdshot just fine.

[@yaudtube]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork thanks, good to know!

[@TheGoatMumbler]

pretty cool. $600

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Thanks for watching.

[@ElFrigginChupacabra]

Just got mine yesterday. Already regretting it. Not compatible with my Samsung Galaxy Note8 which is running Android OS version 9. Garmin's Android OS requirements are version 10 or higher. This pretty much makes the chronograph useless for the advanced features they hyped up. Making matters worse, Garmin does not provide PC software as an alternative to the ShotView app. I might be returning it and getting the LabRadar LX instead since their app is compatible with older Android devices. For as much as the Garmin costs, you would think they would think they would want to capture a larger audience and support reduction of e-waste. I'm not an environmentalist wack-job, I just believe there is no need to continue this "upgrade once or twice a year" mentality as there is enough tech going to waste as it is. And, yes, Samsung and other smart device manufacturers could do better by stopping this ridiculous practice of only allowing two major OS upgrades per device model (they just want you to spend more money and could care less how much tech ends up in the garbage). Rant complete... that is all!

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

The app is honestly minimal and is not at all necessary. I don’t use it personally. Just use the Garmin by itself.

[@alexford4600]

If they would have made this unit 199 dollars it would have shut down the whole Market they would have cornered everything and sold millions of them but at 600 they fucked up

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I think they’re still killing it, but I agree it’s a bit high. I was thinking $300ish.

[@jdrollason]

Should have had it done in the front of your vehicle....an hour wait on a review....😅

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

in front of my vehicle? sorry i'm slow...you gotta speak clearly for me. LOL

[@jdrollason]

WE AARREE GGEETTTTTIIINNG OOOLLLDD😅

[@adrienr.8269]

Ça aurait été plus intéressant face au Fx true ballistics, le labradar est dépassé !

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

“It would have been more interesting against the Fx true ballistics, the labradar is outdated!” I've heard good things about the FX. It actually sounds like the FX has a lot more features than the other competitors. It's also a lot more expensive. J'ai entendu de bonnes choses sur le FX. Il semble en fait que le FX ait beaucoup plus de fonctionnalités que les autres concurrents. C'est aussi beaucoup plus cher. -google translate LOL

[@adrienr.8269]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork thank you for the response and translation 👍

[@longrangevoodoo4480]

For $700, this thing will die and be forgotten about very quickly lol. $200 magnetospeed for the win, again.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

$599 everywhere. Guess we’ll see.

[@longrangevoodoo4480]

​@@PrecisionRifleNetworkthat's good news, i like the design. But like everything else, i hope it isnt priced out of existence.

[@Jean-sc1bw]

Test it in a range with other shooters on table each side…then we will talk. There is no provision for an external trigger…

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

PRS shooters that have had these units for some months have been testing that very thing. They say no issues. From a technical standpoint, each Garmin unit detects other Garmin units and they automatically select different channels so there's no chance to read other projectiles apparently.

[@MagnumMuscle1000]

Too expensive. $600 is the new $300.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

I agree it should probably cost less, but I fully understand why they priced it like they did.

[@eox555]

No BC😢

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Yeah, I mean, BC can be easily trued in a solver like a kestrel though. And technically if speed changes slightly with every shot, so does BC as it slows down. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MaxairEngineering]

RIP Magnetospeed and your stupid strap attachment.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

lol I kinda agree, but I guess we'll see. I'm hearing that they might have something up their sleeves over there. Maybe something new soon.

[@MaxairEngineering]

@@PrecisionRifleNetwork A blind monkey could have designed a better attachment system. Not to mention the unlabeled spacers. They rested on their laurels and refused to improve that product in even the smallest ways. I have already given mine away and glad for it. It works great for occasional use but for someone like me it was ludicrous fighting with that strap. Whoever designed it was dropped on their head a few times as a child. Garmin ordered.....

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@@MaxairEngineering Yeah I tend to agree, which is why I've never owned a Magnetospeed personally.

[@dontroock1843]

Could be a worthwhile video but he spent 1/3 of the time talking about his camera mount. Who cares.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Be on your way then. Thanks for stopping bye.

[@michaelnolan8120]

The jumping back and forth between your face on and over the shoulder views is really annoying.....

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Ok 👍 Sad…going out of your way to say something negative.

[@michaelnolan8120]

Not at all. Trying to provide some constructive 'criticism' Have subscribed and really enjoy your open attitude and videos.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@@michaelnolan8120 alright, noted. I'm open to constructive criticism. It's helpful to know that it IS in fact constructive and not just criticism. You gotta understand, I get hundreds of comments each week and many of them are negative. I have started to assume that anyone who posts a negative comment is just a troll. That's sad. I wish it weren't that way, but it is. To your point, I agree. It wasn't the best option, but I was very light on "B-Roll" shots to help break up the content. I went this route because I was trying to hurry and get the video done and posted in a timely fashion.