New golf clubs a WASTE of money? ZERO motivation for golf, HATE LIV Golf? EP151

[@RickShielsGolfShow]

0:00 - 2:42 Intro 2:45 - 16:31 Are new golf clubs a WASTE of money? 16:33 - 22:58 Tour Golf is HARD! 29:18 - 39:36 Should golf pros earn more money? 39:40 - 44:16 FASTEST Clubhouse member! 44:51 - 47:24 AMAZING hole-in-one 47:25 - 52:47 Very ANGRY viewer emails us 53:31 - 54:07 Does Guy HATE LIV Golf? 57:59 - 1:02:27 Guy CHEATED at golf 1:02:31 - 1:09:49 How to get MOTIVATED to practice golf!

[@MBTK11]

Is that LFC hat you are wearing? Loving it!. You got a new fan, Guy. Lol

[@rillistsrubbishracingchann3491]

I got a comment reply about winning something and a telegram address, this legit?

[@paulmcmahon99]

Love the banter, the improv! Guy is actually a very talented speaker! Effortlessly eloquent and quick!!

[@jonathansmith1547]

With the topic of 2nd hand golf on the pod becoming more frequent... feel like a colab with Simon from SAS golf would be a great edition of the pod and then something on your channel doing something with 2nd hand golf clubs would be great

[@byrdmaan6171]

I agree with this comment 💯

[@charlied8355]

Not a coincidence Lol, Rick knows how to milk the system 🤑🤑🤑

[@iannaylor231]

Check the number of Golfbidder challenges Rick has done. They date back over 6 years now.

[@andydumelow8282]

Great suggestion, SAS is a superb channel.

[@wecolouritall]

100%

[@nllynch6192]

Top presenting, story-telling and conversational rapport from Guy. Great podcast as per, love it guys!

[@nickmcginnis7643]

Something I have thought about Tiger for a long time now: he was soooo good at taking the new tech in clubs, which exploded in the mid 90's, and using them to make shots no one had ever seen before. He was absolutely brilliant, a technical artist even, at exploiting the new technology which defined club making in that era. Someone like Tiger can make the most of every new tweek club makers are coming up with, but that is beyond most of us! Great segment, guys. Keep up the great content. Something I would love to see is more talk about the ladies tours. Their golf is different from the men's game and I would love to see you get a guest on to talk about that. Also, I see it changing a bit with some of the youngsters coming up. Their swings are starting to look more similar to what I see from men. Steeper angles of attack in irons and more aggressive driver swings which will lead to average distances rising. Thanks!!

[@johnmartin7986]

They’ve done it already. Watch the Ince Memet podcast

[@ddeboy002]

most of us can't afford to play every day. If we could there would be 1000s of tiger woods.

[@CarnivoreDMD]

Tigers secret was…..not drinking & smoking during golf & actually being physically fit…& not having to play Balata golf balls. 😂

[@giuseppicorleone9165]

Had to download a British slang dictionary. Had never heard "numpty" before today. Love all y'all's content. Always informative and entertaining.

[@samspratt7004]

I think getting a fitting is 100% worth it, mainly for the shafts and angles (which IMO are the most important bits) more than just getting new clubs, but once you're fitted there is no point changing until they have seen better days. I had my old clubs for 9 years, and got fitted for a set 2 years ago. Before I always used to look at newer and "better" clubs, but I don't even look at clubs now because I know mine are fitted for me.

[@sageagbonkhese4091]

Exactly I'm more concerned with grips and wraps than new clubheads. Once you are fitted for the right shaft bend profile, a new club is not as much of an improvement. Get fitted is a good idea.

[@str8nashtygaming466]

Did you get fitted and buy a new set? or did you buy your clubs and then get them fitted?

[@jackychuang4692]

@@str8nashtygaming466 you get fitted with new clubs and you buy new clubs. Club head and shaft needs to be exact. Some ppl get fitted but get the prior generation club head in order to get some discount. In the end, they are not happy with the result. You spend more with fitted club and use several years versus you buy every year and get frustrated on the course. It's pretty easy choice.

[@str8nashtygaming466]

@@jackychuang4692 gotcha. I just started playing, and I've been using a starter set. I want to get some better clubs, so I wasn't sure on the process. Does it matter where I go to get fitted? Would I be better off going to a pro shop, or can I goto like a dicks sporting goods and get fitted?

[@jackychuang4692]

@@str8nashtygaming466 you can search local fitter with good reputation. Some fitter will waive fitting fee if you make transaction with them. In this way, you can try different head / shaft combo and choose the combo with best result. It's way more cost efficient than buying off the rack or buy based on someone else's comment/feedback. Good luck

[@kevingee3605]

If you're playing a lot of golf, you're going to wear down the grooves on your irons (and especially your wedges) eventually and will need to upgrade... Here's a Driver anecdote for you to compare to the one Guy told. I have a first gen Taylor Made Rocketballz driver (came out in 2012). My driver swing speed hovers around 110 and I hit that driver on average 265 yards carry. pure strikes I can push 275, mishits can be 240-250. I went to get fitted for the new TSR3, same club head speed and was averaging 280+ with pure hits reaching 300 carry. Also the TSR was producing more consistent strikes, I had a series of 3 hits all land within 5 yards of each other where the Rocketballz was extremely inconsistent with the direction.

[@Barlow260]

We used to test golf clubs, especially Drivers by taking them on to the course in the 90s pre launch monitors. It very quickly became apparent that no driver stopped you hitting a slice, hook or top. I remember Mr Ryan putting tape on to the top of the club to stop sky marks 🤣🤣🤣 Happy days 👍

[@bryanromey8168]

New clubs for me have minimal changes from previous years. But it does one thing gets me excited to play a little bit more. It might even be psychological of getting rid of the old driver that is marked with sky ball mark or paint scratch.

[@marybetheby5184]

No marks allowed on clubs..👍

[@dalyheath4091]

44:51 That hole-in-one was at Big Sky in Pemberton BC. I love that place. I've only played there once. I played it on the last day of my bachelor party (i.e. totally exhausted), I had a 4 hour drive through the mountains home looming after the round (i.e. anxious), and shot a 97 (very bad for me)... and I STILL absolutely love that golf course! An absolute must if you're ever in the Vancouver/Whistler/Pemberton area.

[@niallmurphy401]

Lads have a hole in one story. I am new to golf this year haven’t played nearly as much as I’d like to get better and I’m currently off 26.2. A few weeks ago I went out for nine holes after work on my own in a buggy which I have done a couple of times. Was playing really well and nailing my m6 which I was using for the first time. I made par on index 1 16th and then tee’d it up on the par 3 17th. No practice swing or anything like I’d usually do an over think things just hit the purest 6 iron I’ve ever hit. It took one bounce and kicked slightly left and straight in. Stood alone I felt sick that this had happened on my own !! No reaction I just drove up took a pic got the ball and text my wife and my best mate. I haven’t told anyone else as if someone of my level told me they’d a hole in one alone I’d be like I’m sure you did mate😂 I’m still upset about it every time I think about it

[@mineshjogia9945]

A hole in one is a hole in one, don't matter if no one saw it, you did, and that's all that counts. Enjoy it bro!

[@marrto]

Never happened mate

[@ChrisMason.333]

Gongrats on your first hole in 1! Just started playing golf myself in June and after a whole lifetime (31) years of saying golf was for old timers I've been addicted. My home course last month told me we'd played that course alone 18 times this summer. And I've played much more all around and still have not made a hole in 1. I'm breaking 100. Breaking 90 on some easier courses but I live in the mountains in Canada and a lot of our courses have a lot of elevation and hills. Lots of off lies to get good at. Addicted to golf though! All I watch on KZbin and do in my spare time now haha!

[@8BitZ0mbie]

That’s what it’s all about! Great story

[@niallmurphy401]

@@marrto 😂😂😂exactly

[@jaydee5447]

As an American I appreciate the fact you speak the word amateur correctly. Thank you, it’s for that reason only I became a subscriber. In all seriousness you two bring an absolutely fantastic podcast.

[@nkaye_uk5918]

As an Englishman in the UK, I prefer the 'English' pronunciation of 'amma-tur', as opposed to 'amma-chure'.......but I'm not precious about it ! Not sure it's a case of right v wrong !

[@thehammah8444]

I have a Callaway Big Bertha Fusion bought used... new grip on it... I am into it for 135 USD..... on rainy days I will go to Golf Galaxy and hit the new Drivers..... I haven't hit a $300, $400, $500+ that is incrementally better...I hit the ball far enough (relative to my age, hitting middle tee boxes) being in the fairway serves me just fine. Keeping that forgiving Fusion for the foreseeable future... I am going to continue to lift weights/jog/stretch/work on my core, my flexibility, working on my back flex.... this will keep my distance more so than a new driver IMO

[@68clubs]

Great episode guys! I'm always curious about new tech. I'm still hitting Ping Eye 2 green dots from around the early 90s, and I tell myself that until I can't consistently shoot sub 80 (I'm in the high 80s now), there's no need to upgrade. Probably could shave a few strokes here and there with new tech/grooves, but I feel like my money is better spent on practice and lessons.

[@al1356]

What’s funny is I used to change clubs every other year. Now I look for retro clubs and just go back to my older sets to mix and match my bag. This I have found gives me the best bag for my ability without forking out loads of money every 12 or 18 months. Currently play - Epic Flash driver with a 43” shaft, Srixon 5 wood, Ping G425 22 Hybrid, Callaway Stealhead XR 5, 6 and 7 irons, Mizuno MP18SC 8, 9, P, Taylormade Grind wedges and a 5 year old V line putter. Mix of Jumbo grips and midsize. Suits me and keeps me in love with game! Love the channel gents, keep it coming.

[@Coppie46]

Great podcast. Whilst I love the banter and the golf stories, particularly the chat about old golf clubs taking you back to your youth, the thing that really made me laugh was......the word bifter! Not heard that for years 😂. Brought back a fair few memories, including the absolutely honking Dunlop Loco Crazy Long driver I had with the yellow shaft back in the day! 🤣

[@markrigney4372]

I’ve gotten new (fitted) irons two years ago and went from a very traditional 47* pitching wedge to a modern traditional 46* pitching wedge. Granted I’ve worked on my swing but I’ve picked up nearly 20 meters distance and the difference was instant. Srixon zx-7’s are worth a go. That worked for me for what that’s what worth. Only crappy thing was I needed new wedges for gapping😅

[@siakadave]

I’m currently using a Taylormade Burner that I bought from a friends neighbour, the main reason I would buy a new driver now is because I can get fitted for it, but after that, there would be no need to buy a new driver for god knows how long

[@BIGBALDYBEAR1]

I'm currently looking at a set of 7yr old Mizuno irons to replace my current 20yr old Bay Hill set, they might be 7yrs old but they'll be new to me. I'm currently using a Titeleist 915T driver I love it can hit 250 in a straight line why change it 🤷‍♂️

[@vrezhgulyan6834]

Recently got fitted for the first time, the main value was getting shafts that match my release. Especially in my driver. Now that I have that set though I doubt any new equipment will be worth changing to for a long time.

[@Motorallyrider]

I just have my R9 460 (and Callaway Big Bertha War Bird 12 degree) in the bag. As I get older I don't need more distance, I need better vision to see where the ball went.

[@TerrySimmonds]

I have the same problem and I don't even hit very long. Had a couple of lovely shots recently where I had forgotten to put my glasses on and lost a ball that could have been just a foot of fairway but had no idea where to look. I nearly lost one which was 200 yards, dead centre of fairway, because it felt like I had hit it right but hadn't.

[@JiaNaDaRen15]

I got a golf set when I was 15 from my parents and used it till I was 25. Got a new set for my 35th and the 3 wood was as big as my old driver. They aren't kidding that the drivers have gotten so much bigger, it's a trip.

[@michaelbateson8636]

I got a new set of clubs this year. Everything new from lob to driver. Got fitted and definitely play better as a result. However, I won't even be looking at new equipment for 10+ years. My old clubs were good but not as forgiving as I needed.

[@bernard0camp0s]

This was a great episode! Laughed my head off several times. Love the story about your latest unsubscriber 😂

[@V8rally]

Id like to see a retro review on the best clubs from the past 15 years that would still be good today. Covering from driver to putter. You see some players on the pga and lpga that still game clubs like the titleist ap2 and ping g400. I think alot of people will relate to it. Also has rick ever tried the 2014 ping rapture 3 wood (13deg)?

[@EvangelistNickGarrett]

I recently bought a set of golf clubs from an old friend who passed away. Since getting them I’ve played or practiced 8-160-290 balls every day. The clubs totally clicked every switched in my brain about golf. Seeing shots mentally instead of outcome play, dropped 20 or more shots in just several months. The bulk of the set is adams v3 wedges and low irons, 4,5,6 hybrids and Taylor superburner 9.5 driver and 3 wood. I kept my callaway 3 and 4 power stroke irons and putter. Not sure how they rank, but for me these clubs made all the difference. Fascinating to think about the level of skill of the pros.

[@cohesive_glue]

Started golfing this year and I have a Titlist 983k! I was planning on getting fitted for a new driver in October since it is my oldest club. Second guessing that now! Might keep it a bit longer.

[@michaelshanker4760]

That's a pretty good club. I played with far worse for decades!

[@adamgow2276]

I was a member at Crosland Heath for a few years and Chris Hanson was there as a junior and turned pro just before i left. He put in so much effort with his game and was an amazing player and a really nice guy to play golf with. It’s a shame he didn’t manage to keep his card. Was good to hear that he’s trying again. Good luck Chris if you’re reading this!

[@miccartman903]

I still use my ping i3+ irons with Cleveland cg15 wedges cobra driver & hybrid with the Taylor Made Rossa Monza putter they are years old & I wouldn’t change them at all they work for me

[@aragorn4437]

Re Cole Donovan - Mount Currie is in British Columbia .. I think he was at the Big Sky golf club. Spectacular scenery.

[@Omi-7k]

i think the difference now is perhaps getting proper fittings are more reliable and available. Combinations of different shafts, heads proportion to your swing can improve consistency, dispersion and feel which translate to confidence. i think that is the difference.

[@lucasluisluescher5746]

I have a Question, a clubfitter told me that the drivers which come new to the market must past the test of the R&A I think but they test the clubs with a speed of 115 mph. So that means you get the best results at a clubhead speed from 115 mph or above. Who of the amateurs does really swing it that fast and isn’t it a disadvantage for all the golfers who swing it slower?

[@sloppyonexpo8258]

At about or maybe a bit before time stamp 13:47 you mention a type of fitting where it measures your entire bag as you play a round of golf. thats a great idea that maybe could be incorporated with cobra connect and a shot tracer or something. Anyways it sounds like a million dollar idea rick, love the videos and club reviews especially :D have a great day!

[@Klimwriter]

Here's a thought, based both on observation and personal experience: the obsessing over new clubs, trackman data etc etc all comes from not getting out on the course enough. It comes from being stuck behind a computer or only being able to hit the range instead of teeing off, and trying to get that ball into the hole is a few shots as possible. Every time I play, I forget all about getting new clubs. Well...I do need a new driver haha

[@travisscudder12]

YES! I like to buy used. But its easier to change up the shafts now so I can change the shafts more than the heads. And I can mix all my shafts with all TM products. For me the shafts being changeable are the game changer.

[@tomfletcher7625]

I took golf up again and kept my ping G2 (2006) for a while and upgraded to a new one. Not a massive difference other than the shaft change from stiff to X flex. The G2 is still a great driver.

[@johnfisher3127]

I still hit my G2 and i3+ blades.

[@Kur0y4m4]

New irons offer decreased lofts and latest design. We buy them for fashion. Drivers can be a bit more consumable depending on whether or not it was damaged before. Im still playing my Ping Eye2s and Anser putter. I do have a Sim2 Max driver though, it replaced a Ping i20 driver.

[@htimst1967]

Curious topic. I'm playing a 15-year-old Callaway FT5 and Adams IDEA A4 irons. I'm just as crap now as I was when I bought them, but at the range and on the course, I hit my 8 iron 155 and carry my driver 260 if I hit it well. If I don't, it's in another area code. I went to a fitting day for a major brand, and with their latest and greatest game improvement voodoo and fiddly bits, I hit the 8 iron 155 and carried the driver 260, demonstrating that a well-struck ball was about the same and I can mishit anybody's new tech. Nice to have shiny things, though.

[@bajacore]

I've bought two new sets since I started playing close to 15-20 years now. Cobra hybrid set as my first learner set and just a little over a year ago bought Ping G425 irons, Callaway woods and Wilson wedges. This year I changed out my putter for one that better suits my putting stroke. The goal was to buy a set that will last for a long time and are more than capable of keeping up as I continue to lower my HC.

[@ImagineHavinFun]

Just upgraded from my TM burner 420 (02’) to the titleist TS2. Got the TS2 for $120 on eBay in mint condition. If you keep checking eBay you can find some amazing deals. Love the content Rick.

[@thisizcle140]

Ebay swoops always available

[@CarnivoreDMD]

I got a new mixed bag of wedges this past summer & noticeable improvement. Still using Hogan FtWorth irons & Epic woods. Invest in new golf balls!

[@byrdmaan6171]

Great pod video as always. I really appreciate the time stamps! Super handy when I accidentally back out of the video , and need to find the spot where I was when I jumped out.

[@jporter504]

Rick proved this point with his video series of drivers over a 5 year period. Generally, the differences were minimal. Might be time for another series of videos comparing drivers over a 10 year period.

[@pthomas36]

I recognized the golf course from the Green Noodle story! That's Big Sky in Pemberton BC, Canada. What a marvelous place.

[@chrossphyre]

I just updated my set. My previous set was made in the late 80's and was a Fuzzy Zoeller Power Bilt set. Obviously the technology of golf clubs has made leaps and bounds since then. So for me, replacing the set made a lot of sense. But would I replace a set of near top-of-the-line clubs for the latest and greatest that was less than 10 years separated from my existing set? Nope. I don't play well enough to make it worth it and frankly Rick has proved the case as he has hit pretty much the same head and ball speed at 280 on a good day over the last 3 or 4 drivers he has had in the bag.

[@malarvannan3400]

Very valid question and very well answered by Rick's with no commercial agenda. 👏

[@WillPittRFC]

I was playing a Ping Eye 2 5 wood (inherited from my grandad) for the last 20 years - I only changed it for a new Ping G425 driver and 5 wood at the start of the year. Such a reliable club for me - would hit it 200 yards every time, dead straight. Was almost a shame to retire it.

[@lawbinson]

I’m with ya. And the 7w is amazing as well.

[@davidtaylor1188]

I just started playing again after a 30 year break. Dragged the clubs out.......1,3 and 5 Eye 2 woods with Beryllium Copper Eye 2 Irons. Just had them re-gripped.....the look in the pro shop when they saw the woods was priceless. Still good enough for me but interested in trying the new drivers. The 5 wood is special......I still love gripping down on it and using it like I suppose what they would call a hybrid? now perhaps. So much new stuff......range finders etc etc.....like coming out of a 30 year coma in the golf world.

[@gregmeakin8363]

One of my favourite golf experiences, a little like Rick's want for getting back to a relaxing Par 3, is to just spend a couple of hours early in the morning chipping and pitching around the practise green. It really clears the head, and just gets you back to you the ball and a target.

[@worldtraveler84]

Excellent debate about new verse old clubs. Honestly, I buy golf clubs when my old one’s start to look scratched and worn out not because I feel I’m missing out on performance. I think that says it all at least for an amateur golfer like me. 👍🏾

[@craigwillis7384]

Very true on the memories. My Dad introduced me to golf and at the time was playing all Hogan's, Apex I believe and I can still see them in his bag. He had Hogan woods as well with the "speed slot". He would have been 85 in August so in his honor I picked up a full set of 1973 Apex irons and woods. Played 9 holes at my local course, shot 40 and hit a drive 266 yds with a 50 year old drive, clubs or the man? Or maybe some divine help ;-)

[@virtualmartijn]

Bit of very recent experience and something that was not mentioned on the show: the old clubs might still work but they might have degraded over time. Case in point: the shafts in my 14 year old set (irons as well as hybrids / woods) had become very stiff. After having them measured it turned out I was playing between x-flex in my irons to something that was described as “off the normal scale stiff” in my 3 wood. I actually need regular flex. After testing (and then buying) the Ping G425 irons with the the R-flex Alta shafts (tipped and frequency matched) my dispersion was much tighter and I gained significant distance. While the driver was still OK from a technical standpoint (that shaft had not degraded that much) the difference between the Big Bertha 460 and the Rogue ST Max was about 25 yards for me. End result: handicap 37 down to 24 within 5 months.

[@MaxD.]

I’m a pretty high level golfer, but I play on the amateur level. When it comes to not making enough money, I think anyone who wants to compete locally, the competition is enough. Prizes are nice but not the reason I play. For local pro events, I understand people complaining about not making enough money, but we run into the women’s soccer conundrum of what is something worth to the world compared to an individual

[@davidowens7742]

When you're talking about clubs and fitting in the first segment....aren't apps like Arrccos etc essentially like having that prescription?

[@jimmylegs06]

I have mizuno mp30s from 2004. I have the distances locked in, but maybe these arent the clubs i should be playing anymore? Should i make a switch?

[@MrKarju8]

One suggestion for you podcast topic. How featured groups have destroyed the viewing experience of Thursday and Friday. We watch the same players week after week, there are players in the top 5 who's shots we don't see, yet we are looking at "insert player name" at +5 because they are at featured group. The real reason they do it is that they don't have to have so many cameras at the course, but they try to sell it so that we want to see the same players always.

[@mawilliams1978]

I'm still playing a Titleist 910 D2 which I got fitted back in 2010/11. Love this club.. haven't tried the latest TSR but have tried newer models over the past few years but didn't see a significant improvement in distance that would warrant spending £400-£500.

[@mauricegodfrey1163]

Me too. My friend spent $500 (he is the cheapest guy on the planet) to but a new Callaway Rogue. He is as consistent as ever, but I still can get it well past. "It's not the arrow it's the Indian".

[@robwattguitar]

Rick and Guy, the match play stories and tips gave me a good laugh! Nice one! I think the give putts early, but not later is a solid tip!

[@skeegan1990]

Funny that you went to reminiscing about old clubs and mentioned half my bag. Sumo sq driver and RAC LT irons. The irons are a dream

[@chrisoakley6259]

I have the same r9 driver and r7 woods and rsi1 ions and love them all and they suit my game as a 18 handicap all eBay and FB buys about £300 all in use to have the r7 did see a improvement going between. At the time of getting the r9 the r11 was out hit it a couple of time didn’t get on stuck with the r9 ever since

[@uNkLeRaRa4]

The newest clubs in my bag are my Mizuno ST-190 driver, a PXG 0211 DC 60°, and a Cleveland RTX 4.0 56°. Everything else is older Adams stuff. CB1 irons 4-GW, Tight Lies 3 wood and 5 wood, Speedline 22° Hybrid. They're as good as just about anything on market today. LOVE LOVE LOVE Adams gear!

[@nutyyyy]

I just back into golf after a nearly 15 year absence and I decided to buy myself a Taylormade RBZ 5 wood second hand before playing my second round of golf since retirning. I teed it up on the first tee at my local public course having never hit it before and hit a lovely fade up the left of the fairway that drifting right into the middle of the fairway and bounded on 231 yards. Couldn't have felt better in that moment. Walked away from the first hole with a par - then ended up with a triple on the Par 4 S.I 1 2nd hole. But that's golf for you. The club itself performed tremendously and felt so comfortable to use compared to the early 2000s hand me downs I still had from my junior days. I do think that pretty much any clubs from the past 10+ years are equally good though I'm planning on buying a early 2010s driver, hybrid and then an Odessey Putter to round out my bag. And certaintly for around £50 a club I think second hand is worth it for any golfer coming into the game fresh after a long absence. Stuff from 2012 onwards still looks ridiculously new and futuristic to me in a really good way.

[@alistairgillin8611]

I love it when someone looks into my bag to see what I'm playing with. Driver= Titleist 910 D3, Fairway woods= Callaway Warbird 3+ & 5, Irons= Ping Isi-K 3-L, Putter= Ping Anser. The looks I get. Get told I need to update, but hcp sits from Scr to 2. I know what they do, so I will stick with them.

[@rhysjames3869]

I recently went from a callaway XR driver stiff shaft to a Stealth+ extra stiff, easily added 20-30 yards! Huge difference

[@colecornwell9887]

I have a Titleist 915 D2 and hit it very well. Driver is the next club in my bag I should replace and with it being almost 8 years old, Do I replace it?!

[@davidnel607]

Very good answer to Ricks question regarding prize money. I agree 100%. Its like playing loto, ether take a chance or don’t. But don’t complain afterwards about it

[@jasonjuveland9268]

Hahaha, from USA here. Thought the old angry email guy was hilarious, and your response was spot on. Just keep being you, enjoying your show.

[@JMGZ8]

I have an 07 set of Nike CCI irons and a Sasquatch driver and woods. I used to play a lot more and want to get back into golf. I have been debating buying a set of something more forgiving. Not sure what to do.

[@iSnaaacky]

What’s degree wedge would you recommend to an amateur with less than a years experience. I have 60 degree and pitching wedge so looking to get something less lofted.

[@markhoughton4308]

I love these podcasts, it like sitting back with 2 mates just chatting about our interests...

[@jeffsharp104]

Guy, I have the same story with Taylormade 2 hybrid that I got as a birthday gift from my girl, I kept it in the bag for 12 years. In 2021 it finally broke me on the 2nd shot from 210 yards on #12 a par 5, after I mishit it one more time I threw it across the fairway as far as I could and drove off. I was coming up #15 which is parallel to #12 when a guy drove up and said did you leave a 2 hybrid, I gave him the head cover and drove off. Best decision of my life on the golf course.

[@colinhood6554]

I play with Taylormade 200 irons 4-PW which I have had since 2000. I also have Kirkland wedges and Ping G425 driver and 3 wood.

[@Casketman20]

I've gotten new Mavrik irons replacing my early 90s DCI irons I used in high school. I've already dropped 10 strokes on average. I also have a Mavrik driver and although the Stealth is faster (109mph - 114mph) and 10+ yards longer. I can't justify pulling the trigger because of the price.

[@johnzhang7930]

The point on getting fit after a few rounds of golf was exactly what I did with my current set. I played with a friend of mine who is a scratch handicap but also a club fitter and overtime he tracked my shots and results for a few round then went to the bay to get fitted with a good picture of my game in mind.

[@Elec007Man]

My driver is a Cleveland Hibor from the early 2000s. It has the recessed top and i love the funky look.

[@SGowland]

I regrip my old clubs yearly - feel like new ;)

[@paulinelock592]

I’ve just been gifted a Taylormade R11S Driver and am loving the sound it makes at impact and the fact that I’m driving further.

[@hyasmo9228]

Still using same clubs from 2008-2010. Only recent addition was callaway Diablo octane 3 wood. I just can't get away from my Taylormade R7 Draw just works and feels right in the hands

[@peer6939]

I don't know about drivers, but I hit my titleist 712 mb's for ten years, got fitted for new sticks yesterday and it turns out they've lost plenty of pop. ball speed was noticeably down compared to the new ones on center strikes, so take that for what it's worth. I believe clubs can last a long time, but after 10 years I could notice the difference in pop quite easily.

[@davidpatrick9696]

Just getting back into the game after a hiatus…still using my CG2 irons paired with CG10 wedges, 904f 3 wood, and sonartec hybrid…I’ve upgraded my driver to a SIM2 and putter to a phantom x5…not really considering any changes expect maybe a shaft in the 3wood

[@martinvanburen3124]

The old golf club conversation reminded me of when Rick played St Andrews with a set of clubs he bought in the town of St Andrews on a budget (i forget the number but he had to piece together a full set w/bag and balls included) and the proceeded to use them on the old course and did pretty well with them aa I recall. What is the old saying: “it’s the Indian, not the arrow”

[@racerxv6valvoline424]

I purchased my first set of irons back in 91-92, Taylor Made ICW5 irons. They are blades. I learned to hit them over the year with a pro in Miami, ended up being about a HDCP of 12-14. As nicer clubs came out i made a couple purchases and always ended up going back to my blades. To this day 2022 I still swing those irons and hit them just as good as anyone out there hitting todays Irons.

[@daibhi4860]

I just traded in my 2004 set of Callaway BB for their 2020 Mavriks along with a Mavrik driver. Haven't had a chance to hit to clubs on the course yet but on the range they are really performing well. I knew that they were forgiving and made for those of us with a slower swing speed but I didn't know just how much they would improve the game.

[@sturoe7361]

Still using Mizuno mx 23 irons and vokey wedges I bought early 2000s, original 2 ball putter. Still doing the job so why change.

[@joekelly124]

Had a £5 wilson driver from a 2nd hand bin, finally figured it out and was hitting pretty consistently. So thought id splash out on a callaway epic flash and now i cant hit driver to save my life

[@llcoolj2699]

Accidentally purchased graphite shafts as my first set of clubs, only realised how much difference there is when i used my friends iron last week because i couldnt be bothered going to my bag....what are your thoughts on graphite shafts and any chance or a video v traditional irons!?? Love the shows, LL

[@buzzlightyear01758]

surely you compare cubs based on like for like variables swingspeed, launch, ball,loft them compare??

[@bjm2762]

As an amateur my swing can change hourly (even after lessons). Doesn't it seem mad to getting fitted when in this changeable state. Surely fitting should be from below a certain handicap and when you're mor consistent?

[@TreyLuckie]

If your clubs fit you well and you have consistent gaps, then don't try and fix what isn't broken. Everyone has a tendency to fall into the shiny new trap. I play Ping Zing 2's that I bought in 1994. I recently looked into a new set of irons after feeling that call of newer is better. What I found was completely different lofts for irons than I am use to and gaps of up to 20 yards between clubs. My current clubs have 10 yard gaps on the nose. I know my 8 iron is a 150 yard club and my 7 iron is a 160 yard club. As long as those numbers do not change, why should I? Not to mention the expense of new clubs has gotten out of hand! Great listen!

[@sageagbonkhese4091]

But did you get fitted? No way a 20+ year set of clubs would be better for you than a 8year old set. Your launch and landing angle matter more than loft. That's physics. You can't rely on looking at lofts to determine if a club is right for you. Shaft also plays a part.

[@scotthartman1414]

I've been on ropes for new driver for months now...I hit a Taylormade rocket ball and tried ping425 and haven't noticed a huge dif in range or forgiveness...Hard to justify spending $400

[@agoodbogey]

I have a 915d2 and I went to try the sim max 2 and the stealth last year and i couldn’t justify the price tag when my carry only went up about 5-7 yards. I still have my 915. Maybe this year I’ll get fitted for the titileist TSR and see what happens

[@garytuck1074]

Hi guys I've just bought a new driver after testing the Callaway rogue finding I'm hitting it 25 to 30 yards further admittedly gone from a 10 and 1/2 degree driver to a 9 degree and my dispersion is very minimal never realised how the technology has moved on and the face is more forgiving this allows me to reach long par fours its the first time I have never paid for a new driver but can't believe the difference it as made to my game .Great contents guys love the podcasts 👏👏👏👏👏⛳

[@michaelsmith-uz1yv]

I would like to see you talk more about senior golfers, and i mean those well over 70 like myself. I am finding it very hard to justify continueing to play as my game has gone down hill and my swing is like using a stick. I play with guys who are almost 80 and they hit further than me. I am giving buying used clubs one more chance and they will have A Flex shafts, will let you know how i go.

[@gweave17]

Have a thought on the purse for small time pro events. How about the bigger tours take 0.5% from every DP/PGA tour outing as an add to these small tours purses, I feel like even that small amount would be enough to make a meaningful change in the overall pool? Thoughts? Anyway care to work out the maths?

[@benlaurengrant8193]

As someone who returned to golf after 3 year spell out with an injury, I’ve a mixed view on the new club debate. I had old mitsishuba irons and bought king speedzone irons brand new and saw a massive difference, had an old Dunlop putter and purchased an odyssey white hot 2 ball and again saw massive differences however have stuck with my 12 year old Cobra driver as I tried multiple brands of new drivers and just didn’t see the same improvements and therefore haven’t dropped £££ on something new. I think it’s all about confidence and trust in what you are hitting!

[@MrFiskIt]

Only clubs I’ve bought new in my bag are the wedges. I got a set of 718 CBs second hand, second hand TS3, And two taylor made R9 fairway woods. Love all of them.

[@8BitZ0mbie]

I have a ping k15 from at least 10 years ago and I can’t get rid of it. I can’t hit anything else as well. I reshafted it a few times and I love it. I can’t justify the money of a new driver when it hits so well

[@jacobk5343]

I’ll counter the point of new clubs don’t make a big difference. I think if it’s apples to apples comparison (loft, shaft, etc.) I agree. However going from cavity back irons to forged, or regular flex 12 degree shaft to stiff 9 degree can make a huge difference! Long story short, pay for a fitting then take those specs and buy used clubs that fit your game ⛳️

[@iannaylor231]

The product placement in the fall back in love with golf was hilarious.

[@masonwelch9489]

I have Calloway Forged X (2007) Irons and a Taylormade R11 Driver and Three wood. Both over 10 years old but they still get the job done!!!