New Korean Kazuya God Emerges... REAL DEVIL

Real_Devil Twitch: / ljs03180

[@Shojikinaai]

Having Knee accuse you of cheating must be such a huge ego boost

[@tryingtochangemyways5074]

​@Shnissugah tmm fanboys are disgusting

[@NHAM14]

@A . B Shah anime fighter FGC way more weird

[@erykaldo2l270]

Pakistani fanboys are Even worse.

[@tryingtochangemyways5074]

@EryKaldo 2l2 Pak fans are in Pakistan its them supporting there country..But at least they not on Bronsexuals level

[@ballislife296]

@@NHAM14 Idk, Melty Blood scene is so polarizing compared to other anime fighters lol

[@Darktotaled]

i think that the deal with real devil is that he has a lot of muscle memory based on game state. There isnt much thinking put into the moves, it feels like he is reacting to what is on the screen via muscle memory. This guy probably played a fuckton of games to get to this level.

[@maximilianoalcaraz7351]

my guy...what you are saying is true, sure. But you don't get to clap Knee's ass cheeks only because you play games for too long...or going to practice mode and react to the same moves over and over for hundred of hours. Guy has legit skills harvested over time and that sums up everthying...really...nothing more to add. There's a reason why we heard about this guy now and not 12 years ago. You don't get that skills over night. Good for him, good por kazu players too.

[@pyscho86]

rofl

[@Saskaruto16]

Yeah you definitely see him auto mode/default to specific habits and sequences regardless of prior outcome. It's only really stoppable if you are too predictable and he skirts that line extremely well and was able to start mixing it up when he started to get read. If not for the matchup disparity he was doing well it just sucks that he couldn't effectively use some of his mix in that particular matchup which was ultimately his undoing.

[@Saskaruto16]

@@maximilianoalcaraz7351 He does clearly have some specific auto mode/default patterns he does though, more than you see for most pros at that level. He's clearly an extremely reaction based player who favors high risk/reward mix/whiff punish game, but sacrifices a lot of the "top player" neutral we are used to seeing, likely from his less tournament specific experience. But it also gives him an advantage in that his unique mixups and risk taking throws a lot of pros off because they just aren't expecting that amount of risk from a player on their level, and just when they start to catch on he adds more mix with even more risk.

[@zaigeix]

​​​​@@maximilianoalcaraz7351 I do feel like he plays heavily in the moment and not much gameplans. He was playing over aggressively 1st game, Ulsan switched to Kazumi to deal with it and Realdevil still played aggressively didn't play safe even after Kazuya pick and lost that match, afterward he was hesitating, df2 start of the match, hellsweep to ff4 like 5 times. Ulsan definitely adapted to his habits

[@shinysniper9537]

having "devil" in your username gives you a 1000% boost when playing Mishimas obviously

[@oreowithurea5018]

The guy has officially made it, getting knee sus about yourself, that's the biggest achievement for a Tekken player.

[@LayZ_911]

Not only Knee, but also several famous players such as Meo-il, Ulsan, and Malgu all suspected him, and after that, Real Devil and Knee met offline(Knee's studio) and played ft20 Kazuya mirror. As a result, Knee won 20-13 but Knee determined Real devil was not a cheater, and in apology, Knee gave him about $500.

[@nrozmx400]

The part with giving him money is kinda strange and cool at the same time, a small refund for reputational damage 😂

[@davideguernieri5115]

This is the importance of not playing turn based Tekken. Mashing could be a good strategy in high level. As a Bryan no one would expect you for example doing a mach kick into f3. Gotta try stuff out 😂

[@shutupisaac4977]

Real shi 🔥🎯💯

[@t1mson1c]

Yeah, ff4 to f3 is a real shit! 😅

[@TekkenLTDj]

wait i'm a bryan main and i do that at least once in a match isn't that normal? i mean bryan has shit preassure he's just all about scaring your opponents XD

[@sourcesauce]

why do you think bryan has shit pressure

[@MrMajk75]

​@@sourcesauce bryans pressure is fake, hatchet is 21f long and this is his only move to gain momentum

[@mr.madhatter5538]

This was a nice reality check to some elitist mentalities coming from the pros. There are thousands of Godlike Tekken players that don't compete.

[@KrayKenshin]

I've seen Qudans do this style before with his DVJ, but it is interesting to see a Kazuya player come out of nowhere and wreck.

[@Spades20XX]

Man… I miss watching Qudans play. Always a good time

[@bludika]

@@Spades20XX me too i hope he at least comes back to stream when T8 drops

[@ashanirpaneer]

As a non-Kazuya main it was easy to tell why he used back2 so much. It has a lot of interesting properties. You can hit confirm the 4 extension on b2 CH. You can condition people to press after b2, then you can complete the 3 hit string where the 3rd hit can be hit confirmed on 4 CH 10:44

[@lmesen1873]

it's a 4 extension

[@DemonKnight94]

Yeah, i think many characters have good moves that people are not using.

[@탄산음료]

He revealed that he only used it to check the sidestep left.

[@jonesgaminggg]

I love seeing people use characters in a unique way. Nobody can beat you when you don’t do normalized combos

[@sourcesauce]

lol

[@lmesen1873]

Uhhh Ulsan just beat the shit out of him but go off

[@jonesgaminggg]

@@lmesen1873 he had to switch it up lol but okay fanboy

[@lmesen1873]

@@jonesgaminggg "Nobody can beat you!" "...unless they switch to their main!" lol ok buddy

[@ZANGA_]

Combos don’t dictate everything in a match lol

[@vicbygod]

B2 is a great poke for Kaz, fast, mid, safe and creates good space if done at the right distance. Has a follow up moves too,. The b2b ff4 dont know how he is pulling it off.👍

[@DizzyRaps1]

It extremely MEH at best.

[@tydavis1795]

I trust Knee…he knows a scrupman when he sees one 👀

[@saschasunza9618]

He is legit, I saw him playing a kazuya mirror match deathmatch against knee on AfreecaTV and they were in the same room

[@Saskaruto16]

Do you have a link? Would be awesome to see.

[@gosyne874]

I just saw Knee vs Real_Devil FT20 mirror. Knee won lots of no round browns. All these do is make Knee prove over and over that he is the best Kazuya and make him play the character more. I'm still surprised how Knee wins Boa but TMM calls Boa the #1 Kazuya player. Out of the blue, TMM switches to Real_Devil. Knee wins Real_Devil by wide margin, but still not called #1 Kazuya player by TMM. On the other hand, TMM jumps on Boa and Real_Devil bandwagons the moment he learns they exist. TMM knows Knee much longer, Knee beats both of them, TMM still trying to find someone else to call the #1 Kazuya player. This bias is quite unnatural.

[@SolusFather]

TMM meat rides anyone that is currently trending or winning, but with that being said. I find Boa to be the best Kazuya considering he specializes in him and Knee only uses Kazuya in certain matches.

[@RadishAcceptable]

His b2 play is hella smart! He's baiting them into pressing and either finishing the string delayed, or he steps / ducks and punishes! Hella nice.

[@sourcesauce]

so... playing tekken?

[@JD10jr]

Imagine a set with real_devil and BoaLuv...me personally I can't even imagine that

[@kosaido2588]

they actually had one lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGaXe4yVeLyMha8

[@UltimateBallaPOM]

It's been on BoA's channel for a month and a half now.

[@micshaz]

Yeah already happened, interesting set.

[@GunarebleCato]

This Tuesday Knee had a ft20 Kazuya mirror and beat him 20 -11 I think. It started off real bad though 😂

[@FahmiZFX]

As a downloader, Knee would always win in the long run. But guys like Real Devil would be a menace in tournaments where you only have at least 6 rounds to work with.

[@sidneysun3865]

It was 20-13, afterwards knee apologized publicly and gave real devil 500 dollars as a token.

[@TheSLashera]

Just watched him dismantling boaLuv a bit.

[@PunkPaine]

Saw that one too. Real_Devil kicked his ass in the first half. Great match!

[@Thiccbuu]

Bout to watch that set right now 👏

[@TheSLashera]

Yep. And then Boa comes back with some 2x perfect no round brown game. It was wild! 😄

[@fps3693]

Bro not for nothing you have a better kaz then real devil plz you are giving him toooo much credit remember there also someone called the MAINMAN!

[@therealmccoy2004]

Some of the best players in the world do not participate in tournaments.. just remember that..

[@cyniic]

He played with Boa recently and Boa says he's legit.

[@Viewer13128]

Apparently Knee played Real_Devil offline with new computer and installation. Knee won 20-13 (Kazuya mirror), then Knee won 10-7 (Devil Jin). Knee believed Real Devil's reaction/execution is real. Personally, I'd be more relieved if Real Devil won, because the situation now is still he went from schooling Knee online to getting a beat down offline (I know this doesn't mean he was cheating but would be better if he could replicate the results). It seems like his reaction/execution was much better online based on the lopsided score offline. Knee confirmed Real_Devil can react, but my worry is still reacting to CPU and normies is different from reacting to top players. What if skilled players semi-cheat online? they can always prove their skills offline (but it's a debate if it's really (complete) proof if they lose offline, or semi-proven). There's so many online tournaments now, so it worries me if skilled players can't turn on a little bit of cheat. I'll still give Real Devil the benefit of the doubt now, but I'll be sus again if he gets god mode reaction/execution online again. I mean just turning on macros could help him react better against top players. He can always prove it offline (which is why it'd be better if he actually beat knee in the test instead of losing 20-13. On an unrelated note, I read that Real_Devil got banned in ATL Day 2 for insults and creepy incest remarks by saying Nina looks like his opponents daughter and his opponent used Nina.

[@trashboat7172]

Man, I miss the days when trash talk was part of the game.

[@jakegibson1676]

He took 13 games off of arguably the greatest player of all time

[@dariuszkopec2567]

This music from Tekken Dr make me feel nostalgic when tekken was real elite tekken where weak players got destroyed heavily, only skill not a luck and noob friendly system.

[@BullC6]

TMM has obviously not seen me do db2 into ws2 as a Legit Strat lol. That's hella refreshing.

[@noobtuber906]

yea just became a fan of him a few days ago. MASKU

[@Synkhan]

Negative frames are a state of mind XD . The number of times I have beaten folks using unsafe stuff yoh. You gotta risk it to get the biscuit.

[@jone5806]

So Real Devil played with Knee offline and apparently Knee confirmed he's legit. He's just cracked honestly.

[@thatredcomet]

Next video: "Fariborz is legit! We were all wrong"

[@kyooo1190]

I think I've seen this thumbnail somewhere 😂

[@ScorZulu]

"noo you cant just b2 its terrible and a red flag no go" real devil: b2

[@epictcg4424]

I dont know, it just a regular Kazuya to me. Still play 50/50. The only difference was his combo string abuse. For sure he ain't cheating ? I don't know where the cheating was at ?

[@Angel7black]

The idea that somebody has to be cheating because execution is too good is kinda funny for me coming from the SSBM competitive scene. There are people there who will consistently do things that are a lot harder to execute, faster, and more often with what i would consider a shittier peripheral set up than anything in Tekken. Speedrunners also do some extremely crazy things you wouldnt think possible consistently. We’re talking unintentional things extremely hard to execute on cause theyre not even supposed to be mechanics. I get cause its online its a lot more sus, but knee shouldve been way more humble here and rather than being salty about potentially not being the best kazuya in the world(which really who cares hes like the best other over half the roster in the world). Glad he apologized though

[@denali1566]

Interesting take, I also dabble in Smash(Ultimate, I haven't been enlightened enough for Melee since puberty), and I feel that much of the execution is created artificially, like a button that turns you around instantly and could be used once in air would make RARs a basic tool for everyone and help with b-reverse privilege, but instead they don't even have enough functions to map to the buttons on a normal controller. On the other hand, when I first started watching speedrunning, I didn't understand why a 2 frame trick would be that hard coming from sf4 where 2 frame links are considered consistently doable.

[@bludika]

it's because it's so fucking easy to cheat in Tekken PC version, knee and many pros have encountered so many macro and cheaters online over the last 6-7 years, that's why when someone's execution is too good, it can look suspicious.

[@Viewer13128]

well, it's kinda different. Example is (1) execution while catching your opponent (e.g., TJU) VS (2) just execution (e.g., akuma combo). For (2), once you start the combo, you simply go through muscle memory like a script. There is no difficulty change due to trying to catch top opponents. For (1), using high execution is very different in a 3D game against top vs normal players. Example is how LowHigh can catch many ppl with TJU, but cannot catch Knee with TJU. This is different from (2) because TJU require high execution and it's the 1st hit, so you are moving 3D trying to catch a player better at moving than you (and you can get caught instead). I believe SSBM is 2D or 2.5D at most. so it's probably different. And yes, like Bludika said, when playing online, someone suddenly has so-so movement, but top execution. You'd just naturally think it's another cheater again.

[@madnesssupreme]

Tekken 7 online is the wild wild west. No servers, no police, no blacklist (jail). Every online match is suspect; anyone who says otherwise is lying.

[@Viewer13128]

Update: So apparently Knee did play Real_Devil offline with new computer and installation. Knee won 20-13 (Kazuya mirror), then Knee won 10-7 (Devil Jin). Conclusion was Knee believed Real Devil's reaction/execution is real. Personally, I'd be more relieved if Real Devil won, because the situation now is still he went from schooling Knee online to getting a beat down offline (I know this doesn't mean he was cheating but would be better if he could replicate the results). So Knee confirmed Real_Devil can react, but my worry is still reacting to CPU and normies is different from reacting to top players. What if skilled players semi-cheat online? they can always prove their skills offline. There's so many online tournaments now it worries me. I'll still give Real Devil the benefit of the doubt now, but it certainly seems he doesn't have god mode reaction in the offline match, so I'd be really sus if he gets god mode reaction online again. Side Note: Apparently, Real_Devil got banned in ATL Day 2 for insults and creepy incest remarks by saying Nina looks like his opponents daughter and his opponent used Nina. Original comment: Note it's not decided that Real Devil didn't cheat in the Korean community yet, as he recently played offline and his playstyle was completely different, not doing his high execution. I am sure Real Devil is an amazing player, but we know skilled players can still cheat occasionally. Also note that the Korean community does know him. He's just never won anything local for some reason. Knee apologized because there is a chance Real Devil is not cheating, given how much Real Devil defended himself. What should happen is that Knee should take up Real Devil's offer to test him offline. Swap controllers, set up the game himself, to make sure he's 100% clean. Make sure Real Devil isn't bluffing. This is the best option because Real Devil is the one who suggested to play offline. Example: Real Devil does have that execution, but it's actually not that consistent. He can make a macro and sometimes turn it on, thinking that he can do it anyway, so why not cheat a bit sometimes (just offering reasons why real skilled players can still think of cheating sometimes). Remember Real Devil has gone to tournaments but never won. And it's weird how he can fight the entire cast but says he just can't fight DLC characters. Like playing Tekken for over 10 years, and he can't adapt to any DLC character? This makes recording himself as proof easy, because he can do it. Think how LowHigh can do TJU to other players, but has hard time doing it to top players (LowHigh can turn on TJU macro against Knee, then turn off TJU macro against other players, thus proving he can do it). If Real Devil does have the execution, he can easily defend himself because he can do them. So we actually need him to play Knee offline regardless cause the footage of his execution isn't 100% foolproof. Imo, since the situation is so weird, and he offered to play offline with Knee, then that's the perfect solution to clear everything.

[@sbilly17]

Do you know what type of controller does Real_Devil use? To me, his EWGF execution is not out of ordinary at all, his execution looks similar to PlantedMedusa's which is totally human doable. On another hand, Novi keyboard kid's execution is much more sus, insanely fast wave dash and consistent 4 EWGF combos, but he is on keyboard. Also, playing online with keyboard, you can set additional Player2's attack 2 input to the same hand as your movement hand and easily do 100% EWGF similar to Crossup setup.

[@Saskaruto16]

@@sbilly17 Playing on keyboard/hitbox/mixbox makes things extremely easy. Yeah you have the 2 player cheat thing on keyboard or crossup. But even just with 1p controls on something like a hitbox players can easily and consistently do things that are just not possible unless you are a pro on a fightstick. I haven't played a ton of Tekken, only started watching a while into T7. (I have played a lot of fighters just not Tekken). On fightstick or pad I can't do electric consistently at all. 75% normally and probably 50% at best under stress. On a hitbox though I can get over 90% even under stress because it's the exact same finger motion timing every single time. On something like a crossup or 2P keyboard cheat, over 95% is easy and I would doubt anyone who practiced on those would drop more than 1 in 100 tries or even less.

[@brandonscott5435]

@@sbilly17 I played on keyboard for 3 years and novi seems perfectly legit, wave dashing is very simple on keyboard and the only 2 factors that determine wave dash speed on a keyboard is finger dexterity and using low actuation key switches, as for the electrics those aren't hard either. it's literally just pressing foward and 2 at the same time

[@sbilly17]

​@@brandonscott5435 I've seen Novi's handcam for wavedash on his twitch, he uses right hand on the arrow key setup and make those fast wavedash possible. His wave dash is the fastest I've seen so far, even Devilster mixbox/keyboard user or CBM wrist flick light-dash still don't have that fast of the speed where Kazuya Character stay upright during wavu like that. The sketchy thing about Novi is his EWGF, instant WS 2/1+2 consistency from superfast wavu, and 4 EWGF combo. Using right hand arrow key setup mean that he probably use the Cross Up keyboard set up on the left side of the keyboard tho.

[@sbilly17]

@@Saskaruto16 Yea, It's easy to do, that why if Real_Devil use Crossup or Keyboard then I wouldn't see surprise from those EWGF consistency. But also I think the definition of "Cheat" can vary from person to person. If the Player2 additional buttons setup is considered "Cheat" by the dev, then it probably wouldn't be in the game. From the dev perspective, they probably don't consider an ability to "press 3 buttons at the same frame" reliably a cheat. But again, there are a lot of Kazuya mains that take decade to perfect and brag about the skill to press 3 buttons at the same frame reliably lol. To me, an external software like Macros that tinker with the controller input sending to the game is clearly a cheat. But I find Keyboard/Mixbox or even Crossup perfectly fine, it's just a controller set up that make it easier to press 3 buttons at the same frame easier by allowing one hand to press them. There's no rule that say "All Kazuya, Jin, DJ, Heihachi players need to only do electric with 2 separate hand" lol. But Player2 Keyboard setup is a bit of a gray area since it only work Online and not with offline setup, but it's built-in to the game, so it's probably not unintended behavior from the dev POV.

[@MatteBlack42]

U know guy is beast when Knee is sus about his execution. And also u know he is a beast when he plays like hella drunk BoALuvb with his execution of a sober person

[@hosaminthehouse3431]

tmm you need to react to the "The Miracle of Pakistani Tekken" amazing video👌👌

[@dreday6320]

Hellsweeps are so broken. Who cares that it's launch punishable. You better guess right

[@DemonKnight94]

I think the reason why the b2 pokes works is because of the threat of the follow up. Decent dmg into knockdown/Wallsplat. It's risky cuz b2,4 is duck launch punishable but Kazuya's playstyle is already High risk high reward.

[@scarnovak5298]

It's already been proved that he's legit

[@darkmagician319]

Damn famous players always accuse unknown players when they get beaten

[@EddieVuitton]

You should do a reaction video when he plays BoA vs Real_Devil Kazuya mirror match! It’s a great match! 🙌🏼

[@yagodestiny400]

He IS missing some electrics like a normal person, making mistakes like a normal person, how did they thinked that he was cheating? He really is a Giga Chad bro.

[@SolusFather]

Probably because they were losing to a random lol

[@kikook222]

The idea that only tournament players are the best players in the scene has always been a wrong assumption. They are simply the best players who show up to tournaments. There's hundreds of people who would easily contest the best of the best who simply don't go to tournaments. This is a by-product of this mentality. Anytime someone random shows up and start bodying people they're immediately labeled as cheating.

[@Madheim777]

The problem is that in Pc its really easy to cheat unfortunately

[@yeolwan2285]

Real devil played Tekken tag1, tag2, T7, and FR He beat Lowhigh, Boa, Multi a few days ago Hidden legend

[@PowerStunna]

Knee accusing anyone of cheating. "Power is Everything!" - Jin

[@iansantos123]

Also Mwkan 7 aka NEMESIS has godly execution

[@mikeg4490]

Kazuya mains vs the world

[@justrok79]

We need Mainman and framewhisperer on commentary next TWT.

[@theHedgex1]

I'm pretty decent but I wish that I had such talent that people thinking that I'm cheating. Xp well some people do but I mean even the top players. Being so good that you can outplay anybody everywhere at any time is amazing.

[@drjones694]

Make him switch controllers... If you think anyone is cheating and you see them in person Trade controllers / joysticks and then you'll know for sure I hope he's real nice to see new talent coming into the game

[@UltimateBallaPOM]

Not all controllers are the same, on top of wear and tear and mods people do to their controllers(like modifying deadzones and springs)

[@mindspacegaming]

@@UltimateBallaPOM exactly I would think that he plays a korean lever tailored made for mishimas

[@아브람-v9o]

are you allowed to use this video?

[@Danchr123]

Wheres the set between knee and real devil then ?

[@paologabrielcruz]

Even knee and the others apologized to him they thought he’s a cheater but it isn’t.

[@Ludnorc]

to be fair he still could very well be a cheater i mean this is an online event and the guy doesn't drop a single electric not saying he is but who knows

[@ShadowMark3_]

8:57 Next two hits sync with the music

[@Ctrekoz]

Really cool!

[@luisminguela9582]

In the there will always be someone better than You and that includes every famous competitive player on any fighting game

[@xAxCx]

I actually knew about the drama. I have been paying way too much attention to Tekken.

[@good_8]

K-drama ? Nice

[@ymez7]

Is no one going to talk about Real Devil's twin piston combo at 13:09? That combo ender harder than it looks.

[@jone5806]

The trick to doing that ender is dash in, sidestep early, dont delay df321. Once you do that it's pretty consistent actually.

[@hasoOonh1]

Like i said b4 this real devil is actually Choksae, their style are quite similar honestly

[@Wombola]

anyone else just thinking: "sthu scrup man XD"

[@AISciFiStories]

I always feel some type of way about the name Afreeca and ATL. Being black and from the south. Both sound like black events lol not Korean haha

[@Chozun]

Hey guys I’m new to the tekken/fighter scene is there anywhere I can keep up with Competitive tekken? I don’t want to take part just love watching. Any discords or anything like that

[@jeffreygifford1015]

some of those pokes are probably traps too and tourneys do get kinda stale when everybody plays all safe...does get boring sometimes so i would welcome any type of unorthodox player. Playing as Kazuya too interesting.

[@soilsminor4715]

If this tournament is ONLINE, how did this end skepticism about him cheating?

[@satyajeetprabhu]

Track id of the tune playing in the background at the opening of the video? Very Photek sounding

[@MegaCityGhost]

Minus 8, minus 9, whatever. It's not punishable, is it? So what the hell lol

[@tabkg5802]

Huh this Kazuya player really doesn't like to block. Based

[@demoral3030]

*Kazuya with over 7400 wins* _"Must be cheating"_

[@babojee97]

ngl cheating has ruined the spectacle of this game , instead of being like no ways did he really just hit that ur now just like most likely cheating

[@OmniManEmpire]

he didnt play that good during the offline tournament , maybe this guy use some hack during online matches only to get points for the tekken god omega

[@beauvsb5230]

There are lots of godlike players in the world who hasnt taken the pro scene, there are bigger fishes in the sea more than the frog in the well thinks, aka "pro" players.

[@JESTAberlin]

wow, real_devil makes me want to play more kazuya, i love how he gives a f about the "optimal" way to play. fkn awesome man 👍🤛

[@noxthepreacher5958]

Guys, can anyone tell, what music is playing at the end of the video? Starts at 16:46

[@philastolfi8919]

Would love a Vid on Multi´s bryan you had in the background Video at the start.

[@econgblues626]

i've been saying this for the longest time. just because youre the top player in the game, it doesn't mean that there's no one out there can beat you. top players cant accept that. not only in tekken. i see a lot on FPS streamers (jackfragz, dr. disrespect), if they get killed by an almost impossible shot, they assume the other person is cheating. just accept that sometimes, there are players out there that are better than you.

[@welsh_steel2285]

These "better players" haven't proved nothing yet or haven't had a good few tournaments in their competitive careers. Consistent performance proves who's better. Anyone can get beaten, it's the nature of a proper competitive game, Knee had every reason to accuse this person of cheating as that level of commitment towards Kazuya is frighteningly obsessive.

[@ytpme1930]

That shot is impossible for a reason bruh and they hit it

[@Kousseau]

Honestly, it's Bamco's fault on this one. The anti cheat in Tekken is so dogshit that if someone nobody has heard of is starting to make waves, it's more likely they're cheating than they are that good.

[@Viewer13128]

just to set the record straight, knee is still the better player. knee beat him 20-13 in Kazuya mirror afterward and there were a lot of 3-0 rounds by knee. Knee was also doing moves to test/verify that he's legit, so score could've been wider. but i think you misunderstand the tekken top players here. top players including knee have lost online before to worse players and they don't call cheat. in this case, Real_Devil's playstyle had red flags and they run into cheaters often. in this case, knee observed the red flags + poor movement below expectations, which turned into a bigger red flag. you're misunderstanding by thinking the korean players just accuse ppl for beating them. at least im not aware of them doing that, and definitely in this case, it was the unusual red flags. I think TMM is just causing misunderstanding by calling every new Kazuya player discovery the new "Kazuya God". In Knee's perspective, Real_Devil didn't look good due to poor movement. He simply looked sus cause his movement was below expectations.

[@RinrinFran]

Like how Devilster is the real Jin, this guy must be the real Kazuya.

[@ShawnWeeded510]

What does the hit box on the demon steel pedal look like. That might be the reason why he used the move so much.

[@estoylaroca]

Read something from an actual Korean. What was of note worthy, was that when the dude was playing offline tekken, he couldn't perform as well. -This was coming from a guy who said he could react to 1,1's... saying he could duck the 2nd 1 and punish. When he agreed to play offline, he won some rounds against the pros, but he didn't win any sets at all. One of the statements that he made, is that he can block Bryan's follow-ups from df2 without fuzzy guarding. Yet when he played (offline) against lowhigh who was using Bryan, he couldn't back up what he said ^. So yeah. No "hard" evidence that he's cheating, but I think the people in the Korean scene pretty much are in agreement that he's some sort of cheat.

[@ITRiBUTEI]

Not saying he is or isn't , but you see in online tournaments ppl performing better than offline because they're playing in their own comfort environment Same happened in league when cov19 lockdowns I think there's just something about playing in an environment you're comfortable in as apposed to offline

[@jyggalag9838]

I'm not trying to defending him but I guess I am, but I think it's perfectly understandable because of the offline nerves that people can get. I don't know if he's cheating or not but we'll see.

[@sbilly17]

Also note that when you actually play online, the pace of the match can be much slower than offline since the nature of the lockstep net code will make sure that there's longer delay between frame to wait for the online input to be delivered. So he might be able to react to those follow up when he plays online, but not during offline session.

[@Viewer13128]

since ppl making excuse for offline, let me also say that real skilled players can semi-cheat online at home, as easy as using a mod. The thrill/temptation/ease exists regardless of skill. Wealthy ppl steal but claim they won't cause they're rich. Skilled players cheat at speedruns but claim they didn't because they're good. We've seen countless examples of these. It is 100% easy for a skilled player to cheat, then claim to prove their skills if they get called out. No matter what, his offline play is still sus at the end of the day. he demonstrated execution, but the consistency/win-rate is much lower than online. So excuses can't just go one way. If he failed to perform offline to back up his claim, why does he get a free pass when it could very well be any cheater's backup excuse (to do some executions offline). The example I like to use is LowHigh able to land TJU on weaker player easier. he can't land them on top players though. So what if one day LowHigh lands all his TJU on Knee/Arslan? That would be sus right? Then LowHigh will just record himself doing TJU and suddenly we turn dumb and stop suspecting? obviously LowHigh has to go offline, fresh install, new computer, and "use TJU just as consistently on Knee/Arslan and win". The whole thing becomes dubious if his consistency tanks when we test him (cause then what's the point of the test?). In this case, it seems some ppl are giving Real_Devil a free pass for performing worse offline, for free.

[@estoylaroca]

@@Viewer13128 The only "real" excuse is nerves compared to online vs offline. But it shouldn't mean a big difference in skill when comparing the same player offline vs online. There's a reason why he was trying to prove himself in an offline setting, it's because that's the only way you can say you're legit. I mean lastly, like come on, there's must be a reason why all competition is offline tournament... it only went online bc it was literally impossible to do offline. But as soon as covid restrictions were relaxed, they went back to offline for any major tournament.

[@JohnSmith-yn9ju]

Whenever these “top” guys gets cooked they assume people are cheating.

[@ShawnWeeded510]

Ita a smart move. The push back on the Pedal kick can make it car to punish.

[@Thiccbuu]

Real devil is the real deal 👿 very good Kazuya 🙏

[@gabibraun7591]

Me a others casual Tekken players at 01:50 not understanding jack sht 😐

[@haloeightYT]

wait it was an online tournament? how does that dispel the rumors?

[@CSAbhishekPathania]

He won against jdcr today all matches 😂

[@tanveerkhan804]

I totally agreed. I watched those micro ducks with slomos They were frame perfects. Not any other human on the earth works on wavo-insane micro ducks, because its not even possible. Forget about for just one moment why does knee initially states these things about him. That mans whole life spend while holding this stick, he knows every dimensions that till day is possible. There is difference between can do it & cannot do it (impossible). Brother knee warned is at first glance. Then apologize was only for lazy culprits. Who know just move lists and 70 combo damage. Who know Tekken is all about how to Push someone to wall know knee's statement. If that man was there so long. Why pulling strings while at the end of T7 ERRA. Then how can be so hardcore. Just ignore these melodies, find some tournament for Real Devil. While he sit in front of 2 eyed people and 1 eye camera. Everything will be disclosed. Btw lots of love TMM From Pakistan.

[@YeanMachine]

wonder what controller the bro is usin

[@Featherhere]

what is the 13.35 song please someoneeee

[@SuperSpooniegee]

this american purple rank kaz play

[@mehdihere2222]

11:25 A genuine Asian Mother Slap

[@Wombola]

but who got invided to his home? prob the god legend himself LMYourFather!!!

[@slarsnel4527]

Does anyone know the song at 16:45 please

[@vista1456786]

Heard about this on another channel, sucks that the guy had to go through all of this because cheating is still so viable in Tekken 7 PC. I do need to watch this guy's matches though, must be a hell of a player if you're so good Knee accuses you of cheating 0_o

[@mylinuxstruggle5495]

I've known about real devil he plays a lot of matches online. The reason why he doesn't go to a ton of tournaments is because he says he can't beat DLC characters

[@sevionus80]

16:45 - Anyone know what song starts here?

[@Luke--99]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3vcmHuJm5yfbbM

[@sevionus80]

@@Luke--99 *Thank You Bub*

[@Luke--99]

@@sevionus80 No problem :)

[@slarsnel4527]

Wait what song is it??

[@abloccd]

when devil says hes real he’s REAL

[@sanctusbepis8544]

I noticed that real_devil never used kazuya's 1,1,2 after blocking

[@GanguroKonata]

This is like Jason Riot over in Accent Core Here's hoping he doesn't go the same way as homie lol

[@SufferDYT]

Just a heads up, you can't read the last word in your thumbnail because the runtime thing is covering it!

[@glassconference9088]

what song is that at the 2:00 mark ?