New LEGO ROAD PLATES... SOLVED! How to use with Modular buildings & why? Brick'n It Mini-mils system

[@rud1gga155]

Problem solved. Pay more to get less AND THEN buy even more to connect it. Seems to be bullshit? Yes it is

[@tt-rs1457]

By all means. What is wrong with lego. You have to dispense with logic, when buying Lego stuff

[@MrLPRubi]

Don't try it. Fanboys will always find a way.

[@Scotzie69]

@@MrLPRubi they will give all their money they have to Lego instead of buying by alternative and cheaper companys

[@hasanyilmaz77]

Yes you say sure

[@willbricksproductions]

Has everyone forgotten is that there is no curves coming out

[@LibertyPrime1982]

(Citation needed)

[@timquestionmark]

I was under rhe assumption they's probably add curves and maybe things like roundabouts later on when they know the system is successful. Otherwise it's not like modular buildings have round curves anyway

[@TheFeanor74]

@@timquestionmark Well, good luck hoping than LEGO will bring them out any time soon. It would...let's say "surprise" me.

[@BinkBricks]

There will be curves, one day

[@schabe6419]

@@BinkBricks Took a hammer and their will be curves soon. :D

[@ric01232001]

this does seem like it works, but thats going to be hell of an expensive setup for any kind of sizeable city

[@BricknIt]

YES! Extremely expensive!

[@SharpeysWorld]

totally agree

[@ronik24]

Exactly my thought as well... and so many nice plates never to be seen again....

[@pieku]

If I was starting from scratch, it would be expensive, but currently the BULK of my collection is an overabundance of plate. It will be nice to actually have something to do with it, instead of having to spend money on containers to store it all.

[@ThunderDK74]

Not as expensive as the 5 plate high modular MOC road system (forgot the name, sorry)

[@LarissaSchiefer]

The new roads are too small for certain trucks to pass each other without touching.

[@xhearthfirex6571]

And don’t get me started with new 8 stud wide size of the fing Speed Champions !

[@zwitshr]

Da hat jemand den Helden geschaut

[@wruzzer]

@@zwitshr Oder einfach selbst gemerkt, wie dumm das neue System ist..

[@taqresu5865]

Actually, you can combine the modular pieces to make make bigger lanes, just use regular dark grey 2×4 plates in the middle and use the printed plates to connect the 16×16 road plates. Now you have traffic lanes that are 16 studs wide, which can easily fit the widest Speed Champion builds.

[@wruzzer]

@@taqresu5865 how much u wanna pay for this?! i mean, sure, if money is not an issue, go for it.

[@oh-totoro]

"it's that simple" LOL!!!

[@BricknIt]

Hahaha, it also took me about 12 hours to figure it all out!

[@rud1gga155]

Ez af

[@samukai-nw8te]

@@BricknIt thanks for the video man

[@schabe6419]

@@BricknIt Really? This is no joke? You need 12 hours to find the solution of buying another baseplate and build it two studs higher? You mean 12 seconds. You mean seconds? ^^ This was the first problem I'm thinking about and you say the problem is your solution? WTF! Here is my solution: Buy the old ones from alternative companies and if you need stackable street plates they're also existing: www.amazon.de/Strictly-Briks-Bauplatten-Kompatibel-F%C3%BChrenden/dp/B07C9YQZTF

[@lightningspeedextreme2913]

I actualy have a better sulucion: You just don't buy them

[@toolstime5136]

Or even put toilet paper under the plate 😁

[@lightningspeedextreme2913]

@@toolstime5136 hahahahaha

[@projectpitchfork860]

That's a really good solution.

[@lightningspeedextreme2913]

@@projectpitchfork860 you get it!

[@schorsch-is6kv]

@@toolstime5136 used one please ....

[@kevinlee9444]

Cheapest solution: just get a black table top and add white stickers for lane markings.

[@brickguy0486]

I used to do that. If it's done right, it looks very real

[@the911collection]

Or dark grey

[@larslayerlol]

I built my own table and painted it in the same dark grey as Lego roadplates. Then I bought white stickerpapers and cut out road markings. That way I can rearrange the road markings as I please.

[@StudCity]

love it

[@joemann7353]

True or just print it out on paper and cellotape it to the shelf lol

[@hamilton3901]

So I need a weird workaround in order to make lego compatible with lego? No thanks, this company is trying to scam it's customers. These plates are completely outside the Lego system

[@beawatton]

The new roads aren't outside the LEGO system, the modulars are because they're sat on baseplates, which are half the thickness of a plate; that's incredibly annoying when the system is based on a full plate of thickness. This is why they're phasing out baseplates. These roads are also modular which the old ones weren't.

[@hapepunktpunktpunkt8196]

Simple solution: don't ever buy one of the new city street sets. Don't...!

[@infinitify2591]

That’s your opinion dumbass

[@84erElessar]

Why solving the problem? Boycott this system! It looks terrible and is garbage. And it is expensive as hell!

[@Nikioko]

Lego is holding a contest: how far can they go with ripping off their customers until the last fan boy notices? Obviously they haven't gone far enough yet.

[@xhearthfirex6571]

We really need to boycott this ! Buy every Road-Baseplate you get and then buy them from other Bricksystem Companies. Some actually improved so much on quality to even rival LEGO and they still have Road - Baseplates ! Every Company that produces Brick build Sets is just Laughing at Legos face for making this mistake

[@F_l_x]

So we ignore the fact, that some of the old truck/Cars dont fit on the New street And that the effektive plate surface you get ist 4 times more Expensive in comparison to the old street?

[@Etienne.6329]

Yes.

[@dj_langraph]

Da hat einer Held der Steine geguckt xD

[@taqresu5865]

You can make the lanes wider, even 16 stud wide lanes if you want.

[@taqresu5865]

4 times more expensive? It's $16 just to buy 2 road baseplates at my retail stores (makingthem $8 each), versus the $20 for the new Road Plate set, with half of the value being divided into 4 new road plates (making them $2.50 each).

[@F_l_x]

@@taqresu5865 Take a look at the Held der Steine Video, eventho it's German the makes a direct size comparison. For the German market the old Streets were listed around 10€ new, the new streets cost about 20€. But with the new streets you can't even cover the Playing surface of 1 Street baseplate. And in the old Street set you get 2 base plates, so for pure playing area the new one ist 4 times more expensive since in the old setup even more playable area cots just 5€. Material whise + production cost it's more like 3€ for the old set and 4€ for the new since there are more parts. In the dimensions of Lego's production their parts are not that expensive at all. The rest ist just the price tag of the company name. Oh and did I mention that you could also directly build on the 4 times cheaper old build plates? The new ones are just street, there you need even more overpriced parts to get buildings going.

[@ComPoti]

Problem solved: Just don't buy this crap. If Lego doesn't make enough money, they'll quickly fly out of the catalog and the old streets will come back. That's so easy ;-)

[@Elmalab]

even if the new streets would fit in hight, they still look ulgy as F with all those gaps.

[@dazblue5515]

Sorry, but you shouldn't have to 'solve' the new road plate system... that suggests it's broken to begin with... which for me personally it is... I really don't like them! Hopefully we will still be able to pick up the proper road baseplates

[@BricknIt]

Couldn't agree more. The fact that the new roads wouldnt play nice with my existing modulars was keeping me up at night lol. Thats why i tried to figure out a solution to help out :)

[@RCmies]

I don't think they're broken. What's broken is official Lego baseplates that are a weird size (thickness of the top of a plate). I think it's good they're trying to go away from that system and make it more customizable etc. However they should also just make 16x32 road plates without sidewalks. I also think though that these roads are way too narrow. 7.5 studs per lane if you don't include the lane divider which I feel was already a problem with the current road plates. Well I'm just glad they're trying new things and I hope they keep the old ones still around

[@dazblue5515]

@@RCmies It's all personal on what you prefer or not, but totally disagree that baseplates are a problem or a weird size - the clue is in their name 'base' plates - designed to be the base you build upon, which for the road system makes perfect sense, as the lowest part of any town is generally the road surface, then a step up to the pavement (sidewalk) etc... this new system actually puts the road a whole plate (not baseplate) above modular bases... which will make raising a city to match, a very expensive procedure! The only constraint is that you have to have a two lane road - but really, how many people out there have a Lego city that's big enough for a multi-lane highway?

[@pewpewdragon4483]

Wonder why they didn't make the new roads 1 tile + baseplate height, I imagine that would work just as well

[@taurussuperior8740]

There is NO Reason to use this new streets ! Use alternative Brands !

[@Knigh7391]

That's a great mod... but that's an expensive solution specially having so much modulars.

[@user-ev8jc7uo1v]

I think this system is stupid, I'm not even going to consider buying these trash versions of roads. The 2 sets of normal road plates are perfect for modular buildings and much easier. I would advise you to not waste your time or your money on this bad excuse for a city road set.

[@gregoreder8205]

So you need to buy a building, than buy enough plates to build it not on the groundplate but on some new plates and then you could connect it to a road wich is to small for most lego-cars. And got no room for a sidewalk or other things ... and is double the price of normal road-plates. Well ... could someone tell me the reason behind it ?

[@Mainswitch55]

Lego doesn´t give much about customers I guess... They sell 98% overpriced crap today... unfortunately

[@floneu8531]

that's exactly what lego wants. you should buy more stones because it doesn't normally fit. Stupid fix ...

[@TRLAuthor]

Only downside I see to this is that it requires a LOT of additional bricks/plates just to get your modulars to the same height as the new roads. That's going to get expensive fast, especially if you don't have a lot of spare plates already.

[@BricknIt]

Yeah completely agree! The new road plates seem to be a lot more expensive as well!

[@DerAlex86]

Why do you think LEGO introduced the new system? Because they want you to buy tons of plates from their PaB. However, you don't have to follow through with the new road system, unless you want to. You can still get base plates, either new/used from Brick Link or from 3rd party vendors (they even sell double packs of straight roads). I was considering whether or not to switch from 6312 to a MILS-style system, with the new roads I can most probably get there cheaper.

[@xhearthfirex6571]

Don’t buy this crap, go to a alternate Brand and buy their Road-Baseplates. Most of them have exactly the same as Legos old ones, even cheaper and their quality is for the most part as good as LEGO’s. No problems fitting other bricks on them at all

[@ronik24]

The new road system is fine.... what bothers me more is the shiny tile surface. Objects just are normally not supposed to reflect in a road. If Lego would have at least come up with a road-like surface. The rougher surface on slopes would have been just ideal.

[@uncommonsense7830]

No thanks. I'll just be building custom roads. That is way too much effort.

[@mummelutt]

I think you're making it over complicated when you add the base plate under the road plate. Just ditch the base plate under the house and build it all with plates instead.

[@nathansciamanna]

Using separate plates is weaker than using 1 baseplate

[@uncommonsense7830]

Yeah, if you want to rebuild the whole first floor of EVERY modular you own.

[@cosmicjenny4508]

@@uncommonsense7830 Surely you’d only need to rebuild the tiling, because the building itself can be “peeled” off of the baseplate.

[@uncommonsense7830]

@@cosmicjenny4508 Not really, I own my fair share of modulars, and I can safely say those things are like fuckin' glue! They're built in a way that doesn't allow them to come off without taking everything apart. Plus, even if it was that easy, I would never spend that much time taking each individual 1x1, 1x2, 2x2, 2x3, and 2x4 tiles apart from the baseplate. What a waste that would be!

[@Gritt4reel]

You do not mention that the new road is a bit smaller or thinner than the old road plates, which makes it hard for two 8 stud wide vehicle, such as Speed Champions or trucks to pass each other. Also the price for the set is quite high. Here in Germany it's 20 Euro which is twice as much as for the base plates. So the road is more expensive than the old one and you need to lift your whole city to use this, as the other system with base plates (which are like this for nearly 40 years) will let you spend some money. So you can ask yourself: Are they dumb to not think of this or are they clever to make it this way?

[@ondrejm5042]

its actually 4times price increase. In the old system u got 2 32x32 baseplates for 10, in the new system u get an area of 32x32 for 20e

[@xhearthfirex6571]

The standard LEGO City Trucks are „just“ 6 studs wide. Two of them won’t fit. Now try the 8 stud wide Speed Champions. Lego is testing us

[@Gritt4reel]

@@ondrejm5042 But they are (more) than twice as thick as a base plate. :P It's scam. point.

[@brianniac23]

Sorry, nope, didn’t solved it.

[@brianniac23]

You just confirmed the problem.

[@Nitote]

Gawd... All I'm thinking is , WHAT a waste of pieces, not happy with the change of roads LEGO is making, at all.

[@rainybeet]

The problem is not that the new road plates are outside the system, they are actually designed according to the "system." What is outside the system are the flimsy baseplates that don't work with Lego geometry. They need to start doing full plate baseplates so that you can not only connect them to other Lego pieces without first adding more baseplates, but so you can vary the elevation of modulars and anything else on a baseplate, whether for variety or to run wiring, or just to get everything to line up like Lego is supposed to. I just buy aftermarket full plate baseplates since you don't see them anyways, they are a fraction of the cost, and they actually work with the system.

[@bzbricks3621]

why they take away baseplate road plates why??? this just making it complicated...but good work man!

[@flo4real_]

Yeah I’m sticking with the old ones, first it would cost me hundreds of Euros to buy all those extra baseplates and plates to raise the modulars, second it would take so long to tear apart and reassemble the ground floor of every modular I have, and third I do prefer the wider sidewalk bc the ones on the modulars themselves are a bit thin for my taste. It’s definitely an easy system for kids to connect all their lego houses that are sitting around in the floor but for every Afol‘s Lego City these aren’t efficient and if it would be very costly and time consuming

[@StudCity]

i hate the new road plates ugh terrible for my city

[@MamasBricks]

Cool! It does cost a lot so I I'm not there yet. But defenately going to buy a set to check it out! The probleme I have with it is that it changes the grit.

[@BricknIt]

Looking at the potential leaks of the new modular, the old road plates will be staying anyways :)

[@TT-Bricks]

one thing, plates are expensive and the new road system is also more expensive then the 2 base plates sold together. So I hope they will keep the older ones too

[@BricknIt]

Yeah it gets extremely expensive. I personally think they will be keeping both road plate systems for a long time yet.

8 stud-wide vehicles that don’t fit the roads.Make new roads.New roads don’t fit any of the buildings.Make new buildings? A new road system that can be planned out,is a pointer to the future,but City appears to have regressed to kiddy-town.Just what the heck is LEGO doing?

[@DSellens]

I'm just going to raise my buildings with cardboard because I'm a cheapo. It's a waste of valuable plates and it's not visible anyway. I'm #doingitwrong

[@xhearthfirex6571]

Buy the Roadplates from alternative Companies. They make the exact same as the old LEGO Roadplates and still have a good quality. Don’t support this trash, Dont let LEGO get away with this.

[@michellee7465]

I currently don’t have any road plates, so the new system isn’t a problem for me, as no transition.I much prefer the smaller and narrower roads. The tips are extremely helpful. 😀

[@BricknIt]

Thanks so much :) Yeah just trying to help people out who are on the fence about the new road system as its very expensive to buy road plates, new and old

[@beakerJT]

This seems at least a way to resolve it but to buy the new road plates and then have to buy a 16x32 plate to fit under them all sounds expensive (might as well make my own!). And then have to make all my modulars a bit higher to fit as well as 😱 of which I have about 12 of, then its not really a solution at all. Lego should not make new systems that do not fit in with existing systems - solutions by others should not be needed. Thanks anyway! 🙂

[@witerabid]

That's a lot of unnecessary work to "keep it modular"... You know you could just keep the 2x2 plates with the two studs embedded in the sidewalk and just remove the road plates underneath. The whole system you've built there kinda screams for it. 😅 The whole city will fit together like puzzle pieces without needing as many individual connecting pieces as a mills system might use.

[@pewpewdragon4483]

Probably not an ideal solution, but: put loose flat tiles underneath the base plate of the modular building to raise it to the right height; minimal work, makes it compatible, just that the tiles are not attached XD

[@dallasbarrow]

Best solution buy aftermarket road plates. LEGO is going back to the 1980s and trying to ruin the system.

[@RCmies]

Umm... Wouldnt it be better to just build the modular building on regular plates and ditch the base plates altogether? Then you wouldn't have to use another base plate under the road pieces. Just do the same what you did but without the base plates. But instead of laying the 2x4 etc pieces on a baseplate just put them on the bottom of the 8x8 plates and maybe reinforce it a bit better. That way you don't have to spend a fortune on 16x16 or 32x16 baseplates that you can't find anywhere anyway.

[@vstarvan]

10:08 you don't actually have to take anything apart to separate the modular from the road, you can lift the building and keep the 2x2 plates attached to the sidewalk instead of the road.

[@Ryuuguu13]

I like the thought you put into this. As someone not terribly committed to to baseplates (outside of the annual modulars) I've been on the fence. Although outside of modular buildings looking back over the years.. I've also been ignorant to the fact baseplates are on life support thanks to modulars. Idk, this is a tough one, plus I'm feeling the pressure that road plates are officially "retired" and oos at most retailers. Please send help. My head hurts from trying to figure out what to do lol

[@landedfalcon1605]

I don’t actually have any roads in my city ‘roads? Where we’re going we don’t need roads!’. Although, if I’m honest, it’s more because I couldn’t be bothered buying any and now don’t really have space and the shapes would just be way too complicated 😉 Looking forward to new city vids though, just wish I didn’t keep getting ideas for new sets from you 😂 Also v interested to see how you get on with lighting

[@BricknIt]

Haha sorry im feeding your addiction! lol

[@landedfalcon1605]

@@BricknIt I can tell! :D lol

[@hakanstorsater5090]

I managed to snag a bunch of cheap road baseplates of the earlier generations (1978-2001), which are fairly compatible with each other if you smoothen out the transitions, so I'll go with them if i am to build my own Lego city. I live in a pretty cluttered apartment, though, and I'm starting to realize it might take some time before I could have available the time and space required...

[@marcusoconner2805]

I hate the new road plates

[@Legoboy3998]

Wouldn’t it be cheaper just to leave the new road plates alone and simply set an additional baseplate under the untouched modulars? The two baseplates should make the modulars about one plate higher than the road plate, and you can still move the modulars by simply picking them up, without having to disconnect anything.

[@fhurlbrink]

Best solution

[@Grottenolm]

So you JUST have to buy a bunch of plates for ALL of your buildings ?!? Seems to be a good solution.... for all the Lego-CEO´s. Another new car, house, yacht,.... Oh, next i wanna know how you fix the problem with the missing curves. Or can we build only New York city-style towns from now on ?

[@projectpitchfork860]

I would recommend you a really good video to this topic but it's in german.

[@OleMWerner]

You mean: Held der Steine? 😉

[@Lightning_Lemon]

Is that felt on your table? I was looking to put something similar on my desk to protect it and stop pieces rolling everywhere.

[@BricknIt]

Yes it is :) Its a large felt mouse mat :)

[@kennethcarozza6147]

I do not mind the idea of turning the city into a "Mini Mills Plate" as you say, I just wish lego would design, and release a smooth curve. (I have never liked any mills plate curves I have seen so far) I feel like lego is forcing everyone to build cities with just straight, Tee, and 4 way intersections. (I also heard a rumor that baseplate roads may stay for 18+, and the new road plates are for 5+ builds.)

[@dimi727]

so ... this is way more expensive to do for just rising the buildings... plus the streets gonna be more expensive.. well ... Edit: Sorry, I mean its a really good idea which looks good... but there are too many bricks going just into the adjustments and the new streets... I don't like that Lego is doing this

[@H98U52]

That seems to be very expensive, very complex and very unnecessary as well. I will buy a few more normal road plates and be happy :-). Furthermore the new ones do not look appealing. Anyhow thank you for the video!

[@urshurakdieohnekanal9291]

Basically, if I wanted to apply this solution to a city full of modular buildings on regular base plates, I would have to buy a lot of stuff and I would have to rebuild at least the ground-floor of every building - all that, just because Lego isn't able to offer regular road plates in different sizes. Well, no thanks.

[@lesserz6310]

I'm not a city builder, it has crossed my mind...but, this does seem wrong. True, building another layer is nice for light wires. I don't have a desire to do so. Nor do I desire to have to build extra layers to raise structures. Unless they plan to raise all their structures themselves, which means more parts count and higher prices in the future. Give it a couple years and let's see how it goes before I decide to jump on board or not. Don't get me wrong, I kinda like how modular and customizable these would be.

[@sylvainblanchard2671]

Cheaper to buy 2 16x16 plate and replace the base plate

[@BricknIt]

Thats an awesome idea that i didnt even think of! Would be way cheaper too! ill definetely experiment with that when i get my hands on one of the plates

[@Alverant]

It looks expensive if you have a lot of modulars. But if you have a lot of modulars you already have a lot of money. I still like the old roads. I have big hands and trying to add the details for a two-lane road that's 16 studs across is going to be hard. OTOH you can (in theory) make roads with any number of lanes like a 5 lane main street and 1 lane alleys between buildings and 2 lane residential streets.

[@HR-yd5ib]

How much money are you willing to spend to build your roads? I hope you are aware you can get the old system and amazing houses from AliExpress for half the price.

[@OkimeOlvx]

Yeah of course you can solve that problem "It's that simple", BUT one has to use another base plate which costs maybe like $0.2 in production but to get them from LEGO it costs $10 at least. I must boycott lego now

[@96Assassine]

That's just way too overcomplicated. You can simply lay a baseplate on top of some studs, like a bigger baseplate and it becomes the same height as a plate. So you can just put the new roads down on your bigger base, make a frame for your building and place it in there. It's not connected to the bottom but that allows for easier transport or rearrangement of your buildings.

[@rainerzufall9587]

what is the Lego-number for the 16x32 baseplate for the roads?

[@audiotron1003]

Isn't this a lot of extra expense? Those base plates aren't cheap, and those extra plates will add to the cost too. The idea is good if you have the finances but lego isn't cheap.

[@RW-zh7kl]

You would think Lego would have already had a layout done with the new road system. Then been like "hey look how awesome our new road system is and what you can do with it!" But.. no. Atleast I haven't found that anywhere yet.

[@dlbrickerstudio]

good video Chris ! maybe this is another way to me for the new road plate !

[@BricknIt]

Yeah its a least an option :)

[@perchingparrotproductions8777]

Like if Lego should do old modular re-releases

[@flx4711]

Lego called, they want their building engineer back. All seriousness this is super slick and clever. Nice work!

[@BricknIt]

haha thanks so much mate :)

[@DorneyGamer]

You cannot fix what's already bs Bricks:

[@ano-oobist1016]

Thanks for this Solution but be honest - do you really see any benefit using this new system ?

[@janktron]

The road seems too narrow. The tree on the bookshop Is hanging over half the road

[@badbob001]

Or slide some cardboard under the modulars and call it the day. Naturally the cardboard comes from old set boxes so you are technically still "in system". :)

[@alpineweissm7501]

I avoid all of these problems by placing all of my modulars on top of another baseplate, and overlapping them over the road baseplates. That way they are on the exact same height as everything else, the roads take up less space, and I can still move the modulars around as much as I want. I also don't have to modify the modular buildings at all, they are still on their original baseplates.

[@dlbrickerstudio]

My cheapest solution is just placing paper under the modular buildings to make the new road plates the same height as the modular!

[@magnuschristian7663]

Look ugly xd

[@dlbrickerstudio]

But you can’t see it and I am just 14 years old,I don’t have much money to spend on so many baseplates

[@-Sangral-]

@@magnuschristian7663 How? If it's literally under the baseplate and you won't see it?

[@PaPasBricks]

Love your idea for a fix. I will just leave it with that. Don’t want to get negative. I’m looking forward to the new system but still not sure if i will switch. Thanks for sharing.can’t wait to see more of your LEGO city. 👍

[@AussieBricks]

Love the diplomacy. 😂

[@BricknIt]

hahaha. I never realised how heated the conversation about these road plates would be lol. Im of the same opinion as everyone else when i saw them but for me the added space it will give me is why i tried to see how easy it would be to fit them into the city. As you can tell im still 100% sold on them, but seeming as i will be buying some of the new city buildings next year anyways and they come with the plates im open to testing them and trying them out :) sadly that does make the sets even more expensive!

[@BricknIt]

hahaha!

[@PaPasBricks]

@@BricknIt i understand the space savings , but the cost is going to hi. First you have cost of the baseplate and then you have to buy the other plates to build it up. I think is a lot of AFOL go this way there will be a shortage of the additional place needed to raise the new road plates. Like the light blue gray tiles. If that’s the case you will have lots of plates you can’t finish because of lack of parts. I guess time will tell. 👍👍

[@metroid767]

I wouldn’t say having to rebuild every single modular set on an additional custom formatted baseplate is a solution at all. Completely impractical. Unfortunately, it seems that the new road system is really made for the new simple City sets and builds only. It doesn’t seem the modulars were considered at all.

[@TheOtherGuys2]

That's gonna eat up a TON of plates. Basically you're saying we'd have to make a double-layer of plates underneath every single building. while it could be handy for eating up some otherwise hard to use colours (I'm looking at you, orange..), it's still gonna be crazy expensive. One thing I would suggest is to come up with a system that doesn't require a baseplate underneath the roads and buildings. Like, if you're going to have a base built out of plates anyway, why have a baseplate under it?

[@TheOtherGuys2]

I've made a little (I say little, but like 1800 pieces) build in LDD of a way it could be done, which actually transitions between the new roads and the old road plates. It's a little tricky, because the new road plates are narrower than the road baseplates. The new plates are 2 lanes in 16 studs, where the baseplates put two lanes in 20 studs. If you're interested in seeing what I came up with, I can give you the .lxf file. I may have also included a quick and dirty modular style building. The downside of my idea is that it doesn't allow a connection between the road and the building. However, if you have a decently sized city, I don't think that should be a problem. The plates will be thick enough that they're not going to slide over each other or anything.

[@Gynra]

What a faff! And bloody expensive too.

I'll still using a 2005 road plates because on this plates its easier to build house next to the road

[@brickyty1980]

This is good in theory, but unless you have all those parts spare, it's probably cheaper to go full mils plates if you're just starting out your city, for an existing one, say bricksie or alex nunes, doing that for every building is going to be mega expensive, be cheaper to put 3-5mm ply under all the buildings and sink the road to get the height. we shouldn't have to fix this, just lego getting more money out of us. like the idea though, but for small scale builders its going to cost too much.

[@BricknIt]

Yeah exactly. My City is no where near as massive as Alex's and i would not bother changing at all if i was in their shoes. At the moment i am on the fence about it which is why i made the vid :) to try and problem solve the issue :) im hoping that the old road plates dont go anywhere so people ca use whichever system they want :)

[@dancewithpianosteve]

If you do that with a whole legocity.. that is pretty pricey

[@erickok]

Alternatively, put the modulars on plates directly? Cheaper and you still get the benefits of the (smaller and more versitile) new roads.

[@mummelutt]

That was my thought as well. Why bother with the baseplates at all?

[@DerKater85]

Very bad Sorry this is a terrible solve 😓😢

[@TonyMontanaDS]

That's way too costly. Not even an option!

[@robd3529]

With all due respect we shouldn’t have to buy extra bricks and plates just to accommodate the new road system, if you have a dozen or more modulars or buildings on your city the cost in extra plates etc just to make the roads compatible would sky rocket immensely. Don’t get me wrong Lego has come ahead in leaps and bounds over the years but I don’t think the road plates needed to change that much with the possible exception of maybe different designs on the plates aside from the standard 4 plates

[@BricknIt]

I completely agree! It was really annoying me trying to figure out how to attch them to my existing setup which is why i started making the vid, hopefully t help people who had the same worries :)

[@corner559]

What was Lego thinking? Dear Lego, don't get rid of the baseplates!!

[@Grottenolm]

I know what they are thinking. Spoiler: it rhymes on "Honey"

[@SamuelHagey]

is doing it this way really cheaper? having to get all the new plates and tiles i think would just be more expensive...

[@BricknIt]

i wouldnt say it was cheaper, i ment cheaper than the MILs system :) but also i dont think its much more expensive than the old way as you dont have to buy all of the tiles for the pavements. But thats if you were starting from scratch :)

[@bigkarlsbricks]

Mate love your vids but you lost me on this one, are you being paid because nothing about this new system is for us. Its a cash grab

[@BricknIt]

no im not being paid lol. I also state that if you use the old road plates keep them :) This is a vid for people who want to adpot the new road plates and to give them a chance as they do actually have some benefits :) Lets not right them off just yet :) I think the old road plates are here to stay for quite a while yet anyways :)

[@1upfx281]

I've been debating if I like the new road system. This video makes me slightly more optimistic. I'll still need to buy some and experiment to decide if they're for me.

[@BricknIt]

Yeah exactly :) I just wanted to keep an open mind and experiments, after all that is what lego is about :)

[@mr_torle]

You can buy the bricks from an alternative Lego producer. That will be cheaper...

[@dettentown]

Not really a great sollution if you have to spend even more money on parts. I don't like the new system at all

[@MrDulkes]

If you build everything on baseplates, then you could also just remove the Baseplates... But there’s a much simpler solution. 1. Take 2 48x48 baseplates side by side. 2. Put road on three edges of the baseplates. You should have a 64 x 32 area surrounded on three sides by road. 3. Put some plates on the 64 x 32 area. 4. Put 2 modulars, baseplate and all, on the plates (loose on top of the studs). The sidewalk of the modular is now exactly one plate higher than the road. Very cheap. No modding of modulars required.

[@fhurlbrink]

Or, just do, from Step 2: 2. Put road on one of the long edges of the basblates. You should have a 32 x 96 area aside to the road. 3. Put some plates on the 32 x 96 area. 4. Put 3 modulars, baseplate and all, on the plates (loose on top of the studs).

[@MrDulkes]

@@fhurlbrink absolutely, I’m just trying to convey the geometry. You do want to do something around the edges of the modulars, because they will just slide off if you don’t. That’s why I described the “u shaped” road layout.

[@bcncsj]

Great video as always, I will not be adopting the new road plate system because for me it is to costly. Sorry I missed the livestream yesterday, I had no school and was working on preparing for thanksgiving but I am looking forward to the next livestream! Have a great day!

[@bricksanchez]

That is a great solution! It could also be possible to use the big grey baseplates as the base for an entire city and then just placing the modular with the baseplate on top of those grey baseplates (plus one plate of height for a curb) so you would not have to modify each modular 😱 it would be a bit more costly I think tho 🧐

[@jstuds9520]

I really needed this video!!!!

[@BricknIt]

Glad i could help :)

[@peternike7637]

You have solved it the best! I love the idea

[@BricknIt]

Glad I could help!

[@bricksloth6920]

I have vintage lego roadplates, they'll do for me. I don't have bricks to spare building MILS plates.

[@BricknIt]

Yeah, exactly :) i think if u have the old ones and like them then keep them :)

[@Nikioko]

Here is another solution: just ignore Lego's overpriced shitty new road system and use solutions of alternative manufacturers.

[@NerdUndStolzDarauf]

Yea, they even do such crazy things as "selling packages with only straight roads or only curves". No idea what dark magic they had to use to separate curves and straights.

[@Nikioko]

@@NerdUndStolzDarauf Once upon a time, Lego used the same black magic: brickset.com/sets/551-1/Road-Plates-Junction brickset.com/sets/552-1/Road-Plates-Curved brickset.com/sets/553-1/Road-Plates-Straight brickset.com/sets/6304-1/Road-Plates-Cross

[@Crafty_Lachy]

No

[@bluerisk]

Why solving a problem Lego caused? Buy old Lego plates, or the many plates other companies are offering by now and punish Lego in this way.

[@jadenyuki3138]

Lamafii

[@Hoenez]

After watching this for 5 minutes I am completely sure: This is sarcasm. It must be......it MUST be. Otherwise....well....nonono...it MUST be!

[@weizhiang8429]

New Road plate is nightmare.

[@BricknIt]

They are definitely tricky when trying to put them into an existing city!

[@chrisdurgala5548]

This is actually a decent solution however they should offer a trade-in program where if you have the old base plates, you can trade that in for the equivalent to the standard base place with the peg on top and the holes on the bottom, which, as far as I know, only come in 16 x 16 so they should provide the amount you need to replace the base plate under any building New or Old that you have considering they are promoting their new road system. As far as the issue with vehicles not passing each other. A lot of the newer sets were the vehicles are 6 to 8 studs wide. The same thing happens on the old road base plates and in fact the Lego delivery truck is incompatible with all the old road baseplate systems and at least with the new ones, you can make the roads wider to accommodate these wider vehicles. Is what’s happening complete crap from Lego and potentially a money grab yes does it mean one should stick to only buying older sets not necessarily however with all the information on the Internet Internet it is just as easy to mock up the equivalent to what Lego is selling potentially for cheaper, and make your own buildings and vehicles and be able to keep them to scale without a huge knowledge of all Lego building techniques as instructions and Park counts are available for every set. Therefore, you can be guided through each step just simply modify what you decide to put down as the base plate and the road system for your LEGO town and or city. Potentially the best solution at this point is figure out the space you have for your city and then Elmer‘s glue or hot glue down base plates to completely fill the area standard old-fashioned base plates and then add any roads from the new system or buildings on top of that, yes you may pay a little more, but in the end, you have overcome a major problem don’t have to go out and buy specific thickness foam craft board to put under base plates a buildings to make them even with the road or try to figure out or leave the height difference alone with the road, setting a little bit higher and mini spots. The absolute best choice to meet is to cover the table or shelf where you have your city or town with standard base plates rather 32 x 32 or 16 x 32 or 24 x 16 plates and then put your buildings on it and make your roads sidewalks out of Flat plates and smooth tiles, especially if you can find a deal on a huge lot on platform such as eBay and other places where you can buy Lego. The last thing I will say is for those complaining about the price of Lego and the changes is that I left LEGO for a while it went to model railroad in 1/87 scale and for what you pay for one locomotive today you can buy multiple sets and 16 x 16 plates to go under them and the cost of one locomotive therefore this makes it so that I am potentially getting ready to sell off all of my 187 locomotives and cars and track and return to LEGO as the cost is still cheaper and they do offer a reasonable railroad not 100% Accurate with choices of all locomotives and freight cars would allow for the buildings for a model city. Buildings usually cost equivalent to a medium sized LEGO building site and you have to deal with gluing them together super tiny parts that may or may not go into place properly and look good and then painting them. I hope this makes a few people sit back and think, and maybe even the original poster of this video to evaluate their stance on how to present and utilize the new systems with the old and can help people come to terms with the extended cost. Finally I will give a reference to LG, a single locomotive and digital command control which is a decoder which is inside the locomotive of 1/87 model locomotive and buildings the locomotive from $179-$700 buildings range from $26-$150 and you have to assemble them just like Lego except for with proper modeling cement to be able to allow proper time to position apart yet hold strong enough not to break loose as you continue to assemble the buildings were Legos push together have a very good history of staying together and providing decent models, especially as your skill and building grows and you add your own personal modifications to the sets that they have or build your own from scratch.

[@SalixScape]

I've always wondered, what does MILS mean? Is it an abbreviation of something?

[@BricknIt]

Modular integrated landscape system... but if a tongue twister lol