NEW Leica Q3 43mm | Filter Problems

[@charliecampbell3014]

I believe that Leica should fix this issue by supplying every Q3 owner with a replacement hood. Any excuse that they may use to suggest that this is anything but a design flaw is unacceptable. Thankfully it is an external, replaceable component ant not a part integral to the camera so it is simple for Leica to engineer a solution. So come on Leica, put your hands up, admit that you screwed up and provide your customers with a fix to the problem that you created. If you don’t the damage to your reputation and brand will be much greater than the cost of the fix. Let’s all complain directly to Leica Customer Service, if they get enough of a backlash then perhaps they will do something about it.

[@mathphotographer]

A longer fitting lens hood would be the ideal solution, agree.

[@KemApak]

They also do not supply a battery charger with Q3 43. You need to buy it separately!

[@NicolasDavido]

@@mathphotographer but with a longer hood, we may experience seeing the hood in the 4 corners of the pic, right ?

[@davehaberman2539]

Simple …. A design oversight by Leica - design a hood that works as it should and provide it FREE OF CHARGE to all Q3 43 owners - you paid enough for the camera!!!

[@mathphotographer]

That would be ideal, agree.

[@molaub]

I had to return the camera thinking the camera ca Not Focus and the Macro Mode is not working- !! I wish I had watched your video before.

[@erikgrossman]

I use the Leica Q ventilated hood for my Q3 43 and it allows any filter to be used with this hood installed. Even works with macro mode (Leica SKU 19657).

[@gletschertroll]

Yes, my solution too. I like the round, ventilated hood even more than the square one - so no harm done. ;-)

[@johndewhirst3089]

I use the ventilated hood with a conventional lens cap which is a workable solution. However I am surprised that a square hood is not an option.

[@mathphotographer]

I will order it too, agree.

[@ck81818]

The venitlated hood looks way bigger, longer and bulky. It doesn't have the original Leica Q look with squarehood.

[@louis5352]

No rain protection.

[@frand6822]

Just received my Q43 yesterday. I'm using a nice thin B&W XS-Pro Digital filter (no longer available) and the shady lens shade works just fine - BUT not in macro mode as you explain. Fortunately, when I had the first Q, I purchased a too-expensive third-party round screw-in lens shade that I decided I didn't like and put aside. Until now. Works like a charm with the filter and in macro mode. But really, Leica, it seems your left hand wasn't talking to your right hand when you put the Q3 43 together. And, I do agree with others that Leica should provide to all of us a free upgrade to a new, improved lens shade. But, they won't.

[@keketko]

The sad reality is that Leica knows about this problem, they have a whole section in the manual about how you cannot combine the lens hood with a filter. Form over function...

[@hartmut-wilms]

Or, they discovered their mistake just before publishing the manual ;-). However, I do not know which one is less shameful.

[@mathphotographer]

Correct, its in the manual. And although I find it a bit annoying and also thought I should report about it in my video here, I do not think its "terrible" or "a shame". As said in the video, the lens hood "as is" protects the lens very well from scratches so I just shoot the Q3 without a protective filter and have the macro mode available at all times. Let's not forget, the Q3 43 has been built to be shot in the field, being a tool for top-notch photography. I love the new Q3, have it with me at all times currently and enjoy every aspect about the camera.

[@YoramPomer]

It could also be a marketing strategy that the new camera lens combination will not be bigger than the 28mm version. It’s definitely not a decision that a photographer would make. And now, everyone is talking about the lens hood instead of the images . Never let marketing and sales dictate the product design 😊

[@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x]

If it works with a thin filter, where's the issue. Some pentax limited hoods require thin filters, or the JJC petal cover for the Canon G1X. Most poor non-leica users just deal with situations like these and pay a few bucks more for a low profile filter.

[@rudigerwolf9626]

Thank-you for bringing this to our (and Leica’s) attention. What a sad issue for a very expensive camera!

[@p6x2]

Indeniably; whoever overlooked that issue may lose his/her job.

[@mathphotographer]

Look ... everyone who watches my videos on my channel knows that I am a huge Leica fan, love shooting Leica gear and admire the brand. If then once in a while something is not to my liking I feel that I should also report on this. That's why I made this video :) Reporting on all the good stuff I like so much but also calling out what I personally do not like. I hope this makes my channel to some extent "objective" and valuable for the community :)

[@p6x2]

@@mathphotographer I think you made the right decision. It is not about being a Leica fan or not. There has clearly been an oversight from Leica about this. I sure hope they will come up with a solution that honor them.

[@dominicwei770]

I have the Q3 28 and use it with the alternative round Lens Hood from Leica. I also bought magnetic filters from „Urth“. These filters come with a magnetic Cap. You simply screw in an adapter and you can swap the filters or the cap magnetically. You can also stack up multiple filters and close it with the magnetic cap. It should work the same with the 43 mm Q3

[@Watch.doc3]

I bought those but you can’t leave the uv filter on the lens and remove only the lens cap when going out shooting. It makes walking around with the uv filter and lens cap impossible to just remove the lens cap when taking a few shots.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for sharing!

[@louis5352]

No rain water protection with those large vented lens hoods. Not for me.

[@kenmonahan9924]

Very good points! I don’t use A UV filter so not an issue for me. Just the ND and CPL. Not sure how the rain impacts anything with a vented hood as the camera is weather sealed but take the point…!

[@dominicwei770]

I really dont know, what a Lens hood should change concerning the Weathersealment. But if this should be the case it would of course be better using the original one. I described the solution that works for me. This is for shure not for everybody but maybe some out there have something new to consider. It is not possible to post pictures here, so im not able to show how it Looks like. But I 3d-printed a small part that enables me to put a „zipper puller“ on my magnetic lens cap. That makes it much more conveniant to work with

[@GEOFFYCOLLECTION]

Leica just needs to make new lens hood for everyone. I hope they do

[@mathphotographer]

Let's see ... the manual of the new Q3 makes reference to the round ventilated lens hood, I guess that's their suggestion then.

[@Spearmanmark]

As described by previous commenter, I use the Q3 28 filter (an aftermarket square filter works as well) and place a tiny sliver of tape (not visible from the outside) along the threads. The hood then aligns perfectly and works fine, enabling the macro mode to be used. Inelegant, but effective.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for sharing!

[@williamwinecoff1779]

I have had a Breakthrough Photography X4 CPL 49 mm on the 43 mm lens ever since I began using the Q3-43. The X4 CPL has external threads, so I grabbed a cheap rubber hood out of a drawer and screwed it on. When I want to adjust the X4 CPL I grab the rubber hood and turn it as desired. Works like a peach. I think Leica is unconcerned if your Q lenses become scratched. They would much rather sell you a new camera and lens than a filter. They plan to sell you a Q4 with a pristine lens in the near future. And you will buy one.

[@mathphotographer]

Will buy a new Q4, yes :)

[@louis5352]

Not me, no more. It seems of late just about every new product that Leica releases has some problem that could have been fixed and figured out before they sell it to me as a beta tester after having paid FULL PRICE. This is why I have migrated also to Fuji 100SII and the Hasselblad CFV 100. I never would have these cameras if Leica had not messed up with so many releases.

[@louis5352]

YES, I want to use filter, my gosh!!!! I will use a method someone came up with which is not perfect, but will at least allow the use of POL and ND filters or UV/clear filters. He put a very thin .25cm? piece of painters tape (like masking tape) about 1cm long at the inner most part of the lens hood threads. This allowed him to use the 28mm original lens hood and use a filter, but more importantly he could also use the Macro mode on his Q343. I have ordered an extra Q328 hood for this use until such time as Leica finally sees the errors of their way. There is some YT video I saw on this. Search for it. BTW the new Q343 Multifunction Protector has been recalled in the US at least. I surmise this is because some designer forgot that people remove SD cards and to do this with this new case it requires removing the shoulder straps at both ends before removing the protector case and before removing the SD card. What were these designers thinking??

[@kqschwarz]

One thing that pisses me off to no end is when camera manufacturers create lens hoods that do not accommodate filters. My biggest gripe is the inability to handle polarizer filters, which even the Q3 28mm also cannot do. To be clear, a polarizer filter must not only fit under the lens hood (both taller and wider than protective UV filters), but also must be accessible to the user with the lens hood on so the degree of polarization can be adjusted shot to shot. The times where a polarizer is most useful (bright sunny conditions) is also the time one needs a functional lens hood. Eschewing the lens hood for the sake of a polarizer is often counter productive. It not only Leica that has this problem. Every one of the Sony 1.4 GM prime lenses do not have enough room in them to allow the mounting of both a polarizer and the hood, let alone have a hole in the side to allow for adjustment of a polarizer even if one could find a model that fits. What a pain!

[@gletschertroll]

The round, ventilated lens hood is the solution to this problem. Either by Leica or third parties (no difference, neither cosmetically nor functional). I even like the round- ventilated hood much better than the square one . Both my Qs (28 and 43) are now outfitted with this type of hood.

[@mathphotographer]

@@gletschertroll Agree. And with some good luck a simple clip-on lens cap with 49mm will even fit into the round ventilated lens hood.

[@kenmonahan9924]

@@gletschertrollagreed I do the same with magnetic filters

[@kenmonahan9924]

@@mathphotographerthe Hoage round hood comes with a clip on lens cap

[@residenttouristprod]

…strong work! You solved my concern for environmental exposure and easy cleaning with a standard filter by finding and testing numerous options and I thank you. I often use a polarized filter and BnW filters on my Q3. I find the assumption of design vanity over function a sideways slip on Leica’s part a BIG ownership issue. Yes, offering a filter thread filter option may help with lens flare; but by no means does it it protect the lens as well as a outer lens barrel mounted hood like the OEM Q. The accessory hood from Leica or third party threaded to the filter mount is not only frigidity; but also risk of damage to the Macro cams if there is accidental blunt force. IDK, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth that Leica has made owning the New Q more complicated thing simple. As for thin filter options, there is a Chinese company, JJC who makes adhesive mount protection filters for the Ricoh Grlll. Perhaps they will jump on this and provide an option as what they make is even thinner. ❤

[@sromrell]

I’m not a Leica history expert, but I believe they’ve done similar things in the past. I recall seeing a M lens where you can’t use a cap or filter with hood in place. Anyway the point is that it probably wasn’t overlooked but a quirky design choice. ✌️out

[@moritzberger4898]

Summilux 28mm has a similar problem ...

[@mathphotographer]

Correct, I mentioned in the video briefly that the round ventilated lens hood from Leica exists in similar ways in the Leica M lens line-up with similar challenges.

[@shigetty]

I have tried the thinnest filter as far as I know that is available here in Japan by UN (only 1.2mm). Unfortunately macro mode is not still available.

[@mathphotographer]

I will try new filters soon, let's see if there is one that works.

[@InArcadiaSum]

I have both Q3 models, and also like to use filters. So far my solution has been this. Firstly, I have a round Leica lenshood on the Q3, and I have moved this to the Q3 43, along with a K&F Nano-D series UV filter. Everything works OK on the 43 with this setup, including macro. I don't have a lens cap on the 43 yet, but I think I have some plastic clip-ons of the right size, and if not, they're cheap enough to buy. Meantime, on the Q3 28, the original square lenshood is back on, with a filter, and a Q-Cap lens cap. I see that the Q-Cap makers are producing a new version for the 43 square hood, but anyone using that with a filter is still going to get the macro problem, but at least there'll be a cap and hood combination available.

[@stevenstoller9547]

I love this new q43. It’s my go to camera and I want to shoot every day. I don’t worry about the filter. And yes, I realized that the filters and the lens caps don’t work and macro mode won’t work the minute I got the camera. It was annoying, but to be able to have that lens on this camera and take it to parties and family gatherings is just fabulous. so I got over it. If they come up with a solution great I hope they do.

[@JamesBrown-s7r]

I certainly don't want to use the lens without a filter. So until we get a new lens hood, I bought a JJC Metal round hood and while I prefer the look of the square hood, it actually looks OK. It comes with a 49mm cap too. I paid £45 from Amazon

[@cam7432]

good to know this! thank you for posting.

[@reddingtonm]

Me too. It allows easy access to change filters.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for sharing.

[@dell-tone6472]

I recall seeing a video about this, an unboxing. The buyer had, in addition to the camera, a filter and a round lens hood..to remedy the problem. Perhaps it is “Lens Hood, Round, Aluminium, Black Anodized Finish 19657”

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks, I will order the round ventilated lens hood for Q-cameras and see how I like it :)

[@dell-tone6472]

@@mathphotographer a problem you shouldn’t have , I agree. M lenses are all different sizes and shapes, according to their focal lengths. Why the designers fixated on achieving the same dimensions on the Q cameras is bewildering.

[@markexploringnewstuff]

Interesting video. I would expect that Leica (given the price of the Q3 43) would provide registered owners a replacement lens hood that solves the problem.

[@healinginfluence]

This shakes my confidence in Leica.

[@mathphotographer]

No need my friend, its not that dramatic. As said in the video, the lens hood "as is" protects the lens very well from scratches so I just shoot the Q3 without a protective filter and have the macro mode available at all times.

[@healinginfluence]

@@mathphotographer For the price Leica charges it should get these details right. It’s well known that some photographers use filters, protective or otherwise.

[@louis5352]

Me too since every time a new product comes of late there are sometimes serious issues. SL3? Steel Rim hood?

[@sc1]

I have a different filter that fits under the lens hood, but still not able to enter macro mode. I have decided to use the filter without the hood, and install the finishing ring. I prefer the extra protection for the lens, but the hood is not that necessary for flare control. And I can also use the metal lens cap for extra protection when not shooting.

[@mathphotographer]

As said in the video, the lens hood "as is" protects the lens very well from scratches so I just shoot the Q3 without a protective filter and have the macro mode available. Agree with your conclusion too.

[@RichardLewisohn]

I discovered the issue within 2 minutes of buying the camera at the London Leica store. The £230 Leica hood was suggested, and I politely declined. As an interim measure, I have bought the Haoge LH-LQ Metal Lens Hood Shade with Cap for Leica Q on Amazon. It matches the finish of the body perfectly, was £200 less expensive and looks very similar. It also comes with a fairly ugly lens cap, which I'm not using. I would much prefer a 'classic' lens hood and very much hope that Leica does supply a replacement that can be used with a filter. That being said, the camera is great.

[@Richie_1_UK]

I own and can confirm the B & W UV 'T-Pro" filter will screw on and the hood will FULLY screw on till it clicks to finish, it is silver/grey - that's the compromise, black would of been more discrete........no macro mode though

[@KriMi68]

Hi, I bought the Q3 43 a week ago including the circular Lenshood and the Thumbrest in silver. Until there is another solution, I am going to use the circular Lenshood 19658 plus the UV Filter from Leica AND the Lenscap 49mm from Leica which works perfect for me. I also tried a 49mm Lenscap from Voigtländer (from the 35mm Fuji x Mount APO) which fits perfectly with the Leica Filter. Sure, the Original Lenshood plus Cap looks better in my opinion, but I need the Macro Mode. So I will stick to my solution till there is a better workaround or a super thin filter, which fits inside the Filter Thread perhaps...

[@YoramPomer]

I agree that it’s a limitation and could just as well be regarded as a bug. But, it seems redundant having both the lens filter and the lens hood at the same time - You don’t need double protection to the lens! I personally only use the filter to keep the overall camera size to the minimum. Others might find the hood more important and therefore have no need for an extra lens filter. An overprotective attitude spoils the experience.

[@mathphotographer]

Good point, like your attitude :)

[@simonsharky3880]

I use the round Leica Lens Hood with the “Leica E49 Lens Cap for 135mm f/3.4 (#1 1889) M-Lenses”. Works perfectly if I recall correctly. I’m traveling at the moment and don’t have my camera with me to verify.

[@dr.michaelbraida9186]

I am using a B+W UV-Haze filter and it fits however as expected the macro function is blocked.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for sharing.

[@p6x2]

This is a major snafu from Leica. The way to solve it without changing the external design, is to make the hood with a greater recess inside, if there is enough material to do it. If not, then Leica will have to make the external diameter for the inside recess, larger. This is how I look at it without having a Leica 43mm and no access to the hood itself. Leica will manufacture the new lens hood with the modified internal recess to allow the Leica UV Filter and permitting the Macro mode. Then they will issue a recall to all those that already have purchased the Q3-43, and it will be a free swap. Further sales will only include the new lens hood. This is a given.

[@louis5352]

Leica will not issue a recall. They did not with the Steel Rim lens hood problem and they will not here. Remember bottom line is what they really care about, not the customer any longer.

[@p6x2]

@@louis5352 What you are saying is logical, but I hope you are wrong. If I was close to Leica, I would most likely question them about it. I am about to purchase my first Leica in November: a D-Lux 8, to replace my Fujifilm X100S which I purchased in 2014. I would love to be able to purchase a Q3, but I do not have the cash to be able to afford it.

[@msamiullah001]

Hi just following if (B+W) UV filter works with Q3 43 without issues ? considering to buy this.

[@KeeeeenW]

Whoever designed this lens hood likely also designed the screw-on hood for the steel-rim reissue, which caused vignetting. Leica eventually had to create a new version to resolve the issue.

[@coolwindsg123]

I just bought a Haoge lens hood specially made for Q343. The problem is solved. The Haoge lens hood is slightly thicker than the original Leica one, making room for uv filter and macro mode.

[@thetogtube2]

Easy fix if you have the shade for 28mm… you can put a very small piece of tape on the thread and use the previous model hood just fine. *super lame we have to do that but it works.

[@mathphotographer]

Yes, some comments actually referenced a YT video where someone is demonstrating how it works.

[@jurrevandermeer4857]

This is insane!!! Glad i saw this before i bought it. 😮

[@arthurpeterson5273]

The solution, as a few below have mentioned, is to use one of the Leica 49mm round lens hoods, which allow room for 49mm filters and which also accept either a 49mm lens cap on the filter (or the lens itself, of course, without a filter) or else a 67mm lens cap on the front rim of the filter. While the latter cap (67mm) works fine, the former cap (49mm) has the advantage of being seated down inside the lens hood and therefore being protected by the hood from being knocked off (and possibly lost) when accidentally bumped.

[@arthurpeterson5273]

Correction: The above should read, "...a 67mm lens cap on the front rim of the ROUND LENS HOOD."

[@derrickdu]

If this was a car, there would have been a RECALL. Leica needs to send every owner a new hood for FREE. Math, even if you do find a thin hood, it is still not ideal. What if you want to use a Circular Polarizer filter, etc.

[@mathphotographer]

Correct Derrick. Not ideal. And a longer fitting lens hood directly from Leica would be ideal, fully agree.

[@louis5352]

Same problem with the Steel Rim lens where original hood caused vignetting.I had to wait one year to get my lens hood replaced. I think Leica lens hood designers should be fired. How often is Leica going to let this stand? Simple issues, complex problems? No simple original design is needed.

[@gletschertroll]

Well, regarding the filter issue: Firstly I was a bit upset too. But I bought a circular ventilated hood (3rd party) and screwed it on my Q3 43. And know what? I liked the look - more than the look of the original square hood. I even ordered a second round ventilated hood for my second Q3, the Q3 28. So I'm quite happy. Nevertheless, I still think it was quite beneath Leicas own standard to launch a product with this flaw of not being able to use filters in the "normal" factory configuration. But alas, nobody is perfect, not even me. :-) I indeed like the round, ventilated ones - the one for the 28 arrived today, now only the colored soft-shutter-botton marks the difference between them (and the color of the shoulder strap). As for Leicas response to the issue: I definitely don't think they will design a hyper-slim filter - would be much too fragile), They most probably will come up with a modificatd square lens hood - probably for free for registered Q3 43 buyers. Won't cost them too much and will appease the buyers. I myself will of course stick with the round ventilated ones - vintage like myself. ;-).

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for sharing, I will order the round lens hood too and see how my Q3 likes it ;)

[@gletschertroll]

@@mathphotographerThe camera will definitely "like" it. Works flawlessly with any filter. No vignetting, needless to say. So it comes down to the question: do you yourself like the look? As for third party or Leica; the JJC product (50,-- at Amazon) looks, feels and works exactly like the one by Leica. Same material (aluminum) too.

[@jamesdeanphoto]

What brand of round filter did you purchase?

[@ruu_dainsta7873]

The last filter looks ok but will the macro function en autofocus still work? I doubt it. I have this camera and even with an ultra thin filter no macro function with the original hood.

[@lelandfitz1762]

Really hope they make a good solution for their customers.

[@mathphotographer]

Takes a bit of time but I am sure Leica will take care of it.

[@sabamacx]

I had a similar issue with my XF 28mm f/2.8 mkii and a Glimmerglass filter: unable to use the lens hood.

[@janjilderda5840]

I use the round round Leica Q lens hood. The Leica E67 lens cap fits on this.

[@mhom74]

Do you know when the matching hand grip might be released? Thanks.

[@mathphotographer]

Have not heard about availability yet but ordered it for my Q3 43. Guess it will look great :)

[@slee4079]

Did you get a chance to try B+W filter??

[@ScottSpear-qn9uk]

It seems like it would make more sense to remove the lens hood for macro mode use and leave the thin filter in place. You don't usually need a lens hood when taking macro photos and protecting the lens is more important. Ideally, Leica should provide a longer lens hood that can accommodate the Leica 49mm filter and allows macro mode function as well, but removing the lens hood for the occasional macro photos would seem to be the temporaryu solution until Leica addresses this design failure.

[@ForeverBrooklynNYC]

my current solution: using my Q3's lens hood on the Q3 43 while using a thin B+W UV filter and living with the lens hood's "misalignment"; I'll make a minor sacrifice on the aesthetics in favor of the peace of mind of having a filter protecting the Q3 43's lens

[@mallingwater984]

It just needs a very thin shim from Leica free of charge to fit between the lens and hood to extend the gap so a filter fits in macro mode , its simple really but knowing Leica it will cost a lot or they sell you a new hood.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for sharing.

[@mathphotographer]

@@mallingwater984 Correct, the solution could be a longer fitting lens hood it an in-between ring functioning as an extension.

[@mallingwater984]

It’s not good German engineering really is it? You wouldn’t buy a Mercedes Benz if you could only listen to the radio if you are in reverse! Get it sorted.

[@kenmonahan9924]

@@ForeverBrooklynNYC hi, I have seen a video where a small piece of thin tape is fitted to the side of the thread and the hood will tighten to the correct position (I guess half a turn short of normal). The KZbinr is “casa de Louie” if you want to check it out.

[@danikcz]

Great video and detailed comparison again, thank you 👍 May I have a question for you Leica expert? How sensitive is the M11-P camera to bad weather? I want to buy new equipment for the joy from photography and I often take pictures of nature, I have camera in any weather with me when hiking or on a boat... but also shoot glamour photo... the LS3 would probably be the best but it is quite big but what if there is no other option? Just what is your practical recommendation pls? Thank you. Have a nice day. Daniel

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks Daniel, appreciate the positive feedback! The Rangefinder cameras from Leica are actually astonishing robust, NOT weather sealed, but robust. I do not think that some rain will harm the camera or lens. Of course, heavy splash water is not a good idea :) But robust: yes, super robust ,and will work in rain. Of course I cannot guarantee this but in my experience the M11-P is a companion for all situations.

[@danikcz]

@@mathphotographer Then I have it selected, thanks for the reply and I continue to follow your channel and look forward to more videos😉🍀

[@1946gsp]

Astonishing that the R&D team at Leica could be so blind. They are so smug and overconfident about their product. Didn’t ANYBODY try to put a filter and hood combo together during product development? Thank you for bringing this shortsighted, misjudged process to light. Someone’s head should roll at Wetzlar.

[@HRWG99]

I bought an alternative round Leica Q lens hood

[@edwardkurek5355]

Have you ever tried using a 35mm adapted lens on the gfx100 models In the 35mm option in the menue?

[@kazz7148]

you could measure the extension in macrocode and figure out the max thickness of the filter can have.

[@mathphotographer]

Correct - I thought about that but did stick to "experimental brute force" testing :) I could have been more efficient by following your advice :)

[@DonaldHawk]

I don’t use filters. But curious whether there is just a glass element which can be adhesively applied to the inside of the cap on the market.

[@mathphotographer]

Interesting idea, thanks for sharing, Donald. Let's see if someone in the community comes up with some smart solution :)

[@wolfgrahl]

As always another Great Video. Greetings from Santa Barbara.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks, greetings back :)

[@lucacapomagi4829]

@mathphotographer, b+w T-PRO fit well! Not in Macro mode but in normal use you can use this protective filtri with original hood! It is also grey like the camera body 👍

[@Richie_1_UK]

Does the hood screw on ALL the way? Thanks

[@lucacapomagi4829]

@@Richie_1_UKsì, completamente! Però non si può usare la modalità macro perché toccherebbe

[@diplomac]

I will use filters and ditch the hood. Not ideal but I prefer to protect the lens and use macro mode over reducing stray light or for aesthetics. Again, not ideal but if I have to choose....

[@mathphotographer]

Correct, and a replacement lens hood will not cost the world whereas if you scratch the lens, repair becomes very expensive. But, as said in the video, the lens hood "as is" protects the lens very well from scratches so I just shoot the Q3 without a protective filter and have the macro mode available.

[@KCHAEnel]

does round leica round lens filter for q3 works with filters?

[@InArcadiaSum]

Have a look at my post, which I think sets out what I've found. In summary, the only things that don't work or can't be made are using its supplied square lens hood with a screw in filter on the Q3 43, or using the Q3 supplied square lenshood on the 43 with a filter. The round lens hood works with filters on both cameras, and no macro problem on either.

[@jamesleung8679]

Which lens is sharper, 28 or 43？

[@salvadorluquegarcia2159]

Gracias por la información. Tengo una Leica Q2 y pienso comprar la Q3 43mm. Siempre, siempre, todas mis lentes tiene filtro protector. Viendo el problema que planteas, me pensaré la compra hasta que no esté resuelto este problema. Gracias por la información

[@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x]

B+W sells a very thin filter with titanium finish, that might work (might be the one from 8:15)

[@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x]

Speaking of form over function, that B+W T-Pro line apparently isn't actually titanium, which is good because rigidity of titanium could damage threads, but they colored it anyway (which is distracting) and called it T-Pro I guess all because someone at sales heard titanium is fancy

[@eugenheller4182]

I do not own the camera, but i think it is a shame it does not work. If they had a solution, like a super thin filter i would not mind. But, there are more filters out there aside from UV. Mist, Pol and ND Filters are so important, as you said. But. Every Manufacturer makes mistakes and I think thats fine. They have to learn too. Also. If they are clever they create new thin filters on their own.

[@nelsonclub7722]

Hasselblad do not make this mistake. The filters they supply are super thin - so you can combine 3 on ANY lens with ZERO vignetting and the hood fits over the lens in reverse when not in use

[@eugenheller4182]

@@nelsonclub7722 Yet they make different mistakes. Take the X2D for example. The very first necessary Firmware Update took ages. The connection via camera and MacBook does not work properly. I talked to so many professionals who used the H6D 100C for work and cannot use their new flagship X2D, because the tethering is not reliable.

[@eugenheller4182]

@@nelsonclub7722 Hey Nelson, I love the new X2D, but they did mistakes as well. The first important Firmware Update took almost a year if I am not mistaken. It took ages until the face af was implemented. Also the connectivity between camera and MacBook while tethering is horrendous. I talked to several professionals who used the H6D100C before and they cannot work with the X2D in a Studio environment, because it keeps disconnecting. As I said. I love the camera, but it has its flaws as well. :) Have a good start into the new week. Eugen

[@nelsonclub7722]

@@eugenheller4182 Hey Eugen - been a Pro for 35 years commercial, social, weddings etc - I was only referring to the 'filter'. I believe you are talking about updates - I have never had one single issue tethering - the H6D100c was flawless tethering but I had lens lockouts on a 50-110 Orange Dot lens which was brand new - the X series is flawless for me in both tethering to a Mac Studio or wireless to an iPad Pro - I don't have a Mac Pro - only a Mac Air as it is more hardy in the field - no moving parts - (not sure if the newer ones are like this). Leica Q and Sl3 we use tether well but on the Q3 you cannot remotely access some functions such s bracketing - at least on the Ipad Pro you can't - this is a shame as we use both the Q3 on a long boom at a height where the camera cannot be reached - we now use a Hasselblad 907x for this and the access to all functions is flawless - as for other issues - just availability of the lenses - I waited 18 months for the re-release of the 90mm F2.5 and missed the 25 F2,5mm by a day having to settle for the 28mm F4!! Have a great one

[@eugenheller4182]

@@nelsonclub7722 Hey 😊 Thanks for getting back. Thought you are talking about making mistakes in general. Truth has been said about the filters. That is correct. Sorry for misunderstanding.

[@kenmonahan9924]

Slightly off topic and something you might want to share in a video I could not transfer my profiles from Q3 to Q3 43. I asked Leica and they gave me this solution have not tried it yet! there is a way to transfer settings from the Q3 28 to the Q3 43: “Save the settings file and open it with a simple text editor. The second line states the camera: "Camera":"LEICA Q3", or "Camera":"LEICA Q3 43", Simply remove or add the " 43" ("SPACE43") and the profiles can be used on either camera. Please make sure the text editor does not add anything else to the file.” Best Ken

[@kenmonahan9924]

I have now completed the transfer by completing the above instructions!!😅

[@loba2loba]

A collapsible rubber hood ! I never use metalic hoods.

[@mathphotographer]

Interesting suggestion, thanks for sharing!

[@michaelascher2693]

I sold my Q3 43 again because of this design flaw. I no longer have any need to support a company that shows as little interest in its customers as Leica. It's all about profit, why should customers who have paid almost €7000 bother to find a solution themselves? An enquiry to the Customer Care with the request for a free solution was only answered with a copy paste text that refers to the manual. I don‘t get it. On the same day, Leica published another very unique product with another design flaw. Take a look at the new halfcase with handle, you can now remove the two split rings of the strap and the case every time to get to the SD card. If it wasn't so sad it would almost be funny. I'll stick with my Q3 28 even if I wanted to sell it too.

[@johndewhirst3089]

I have the same leather case but have been using the supplied USB cable to transfer images to a PC and actually found it a reasonable option to do so. My only concern is that the cover for the connections feels flimsy. Of course the ideal solution would have been for the SD card to sit next to the battery as with the M11 but the design does not allow. As regards the leather protector it is a robust solution. Ultimately there have been compromises in the design but it doesn't detract from a brilliant camera so let's keep things in perspective.

[@michaelascher2693]

@@johndewhirst3089 Originally, an opening in the case for the SD card was also planned. The text on the German page still referred to this opening for a few days. At the moment you can't find the case in the online shop or in the stores, I think they realised this design mistake even later than the one with the lens hood. To be honest, I find it very surprising how the majority of customers then look for solutions themselves and simply live with such design errors. Why should Leica change anything? It works great. Every price increase is accepted, every design error is accepted and even the fact that there is no longer a charger included is accepted by customers and they buy the dual charger or use the charger from the Q3. Yes, the camera is great, but leica is playing with fire here and after it gets nice and warm it will eventually burn.

[@mathphotographer]

Fully understand, Michael. I nevertheless love my Q3 43, the image quality & compactness & the 43mm Apo-Summicron are sooo good that I carry this camera currently around with me wherever I go :) As said in the video, the lens hood "as is" protects the lens very well from scratches so I just shoot the Q3 without a protective filter and have the macro mode available at all times.

[@GillesQuennevilleGQ]

If i need to use a ND or polarized filter i just dont use the lens hood.

[@mathphotographer]

Correct - as said in the info box below my video, there is a lens ring in the package which you can screw-in instead of the lens hood. Then the camera is ready for all 49mm filters.

[@stephanedubarry8624]

Is it the same issue with the Q2 ? If so it is a real problem with the Q2 monochrom as the use of colour filters is necessary in some cases

[@mathphotographer]

No - the Q2 and the Q3 28mm are easy with all 49mm filters.

[@mathphotographer]

No - the Q2 and the Q3 28mm are easy with all 49mm filters.

[@stephanedubarry8624]

Thanks. I sent this comment too fast ! Issue would be real (?) if Leica launches a q3/43 monochrom

[@peterfearringtonvillaume1968]

Leica all ready have af fix... just look at the hood on the summilux 35 1.4 from 70´s and 80´s (aka steelrim v2). The filter is integrated in the hood -. but it is strange they haven't made it like this already

[@Households1234]

It is cool that your hands and finger nails are always groomed and looking good. Thank you.

[@lelandfitz1762]

LOL Didn't notice. But I notice several other KZbinrs always doing videos with black gloves

[@mathphotographer]

Haha thanks, not the main focus hopefully in my videos but appreciate the kind words :)

[@ahirschb]

I wonder now if an ND filter (a must for video) will work at all. a work around would be to avoid the lens hood but it will be a shame. the Q3 should be fault free, a major let down.

[@Al10504lau]

This is a terrible situation and not in keeping with Leica “engineering reputation”. A longer hood should had been included.

[@mathphotographer]

I don't think its "terrible", my friend, but it is a bit annoying. As said in the video, I think the lens hood "as is" protects the lens well enough. But yes, whenever I want to use an ND or polar filter, I have to shoot the camera without the original lens hood. And that's indeed annoying.

[@louis5352]

@@mathphotographer You are just too biased in favor of Leica, but the rest of us who do not have the favor of loaner pre-production cameras are resigned to being Beta testers after paying full price. It is terrible since it was a stupid mistake to imagine macro photographers must now shoot without a lens hood as macro is used on the Q328. I often shoot in bad weather where there is drama to the scene or want to take a macro shot. I do not want to subject my new camera to this when I do not have to if only Leica had designed the hood for all types of shooters.

[@mhom74]

I can add that the B+W T-Pro will also fit under the lens hood perfectly.

[@rajkerkar9432]

Does macro mode work with the filter you mention?

[@stevewalls7812]

@@rajkerkar9432 it doesn't

[@mhom74]

It does not, unfortunately.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for sharing although for macro mode the lens hood still has to be removed.

[@yuvalha2954]

I just don’t use the lens hood.. I like to keep the lens as small as possible. Never used the lens hood on the Q3 28 and never had a problem.

[@mathphotographer]

That's for sure a good solution because then the way is free for all types of 49mm filters! Having said that, the Apo-Summicron and also the Summilux are not non-vulnerable to lens flare if the light falls into the lens in a certain way, in particular in night photography. That's why I prefer the lens hood to be screwed in.

[@chrisloomis1489]

Use the BW Nano Pro with the brass slim ring. I have that on my Leica Summicron F2 90mm Apo lens. I also use it on my Voightlander Vintage lens as it mounts into the brass vented hood with chrome finish. Use the Nano Pro from BW .

[@boblozano]

the b&w mrc nano works fine but without macro mode. So for now I take the hood off for macro; will probably try a 3rd party round, as next interim. It's a silly problem, likely resulting from a product mgt directive to be the same length detracting from the actual use of the product. Definitely an `unforced error`.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for sharing.

[@chrisbogart687]

I was hoping to upgrade to this camera and that is on hold until Leica fixes this problem and fixes it right with no stupid accessories or whatevers.

[@mathphotographer]

Don't hold yourself back from buying it. As said in the video, the lens hood "as is" protects the lens very well from scratches so I just shoot the Q3 without a protective filter and have the macro mode available. I currently have my Q3 43 with me at all times and love shooting the 43mm, its such a fantastic camera!

[@brookhedge463]

I should add, I don’t have a lens hood but rather a screw lens cap which works well and really protects it.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for sharing.

[@condal32]

Huge mistake by Leica. They need to solve this quickly and for free.

[@mathphotographer]

Let's see ...

[@kenn6592]

I damaged an expensive 70-200 zoom lens, thinking that with its massive lens hood there was no need for a protective filter. Wrong. (I treat my gear with great respect too).

[@hizhaus]

I guess you just have to do your macro photography with the alternate hood and then take off the hood when you're done and put the lens cover on. Not super elegant, but ultimately getting the job done, right?

[@mathphotographer]

The easiest way if you want to have a filter mounted is to remove the lens hood before switching into macro mode, absolutely correct.

[@chrisloomis1489]

That Zeiss filter is also hugely thick. BW Nano Pro !!

[@mathphotographer]

Yes :)

[@TheVFXbyArt]

Crazy!! Thank you for the video!!’

[@mathphotographer]

Pleasure :)

[@johndewhirst3089]

There is a similar issue with the Fuji x100vi that has ultimately been solved by third party resellers (ie JJC). I doubt that JJC will need to undertake much retooling to provide a square hood / filter solution for the Q3 and pretty soon we will see advertised third party solutions. In the final event the 'problem' will be solved but Leica need to evaluate whether it compromises its brand with reliance on third party (Chinese) companies to provide a fix or to provide one itself. Surely Leica will recognise the need for the solution to be provided by Leica itself, ideally with a new square hood that is threaded as required. I think its nuts to demand that the Q328 and Q343 should be the same size and to be sensitive about adding mm's to the length. The crucial point is that the Q328 is already longer than the nearest competitor (x100vi) so it's hardly worth fretting about another 5mm. But heh, first world problems and the likely opportunism of Chinese accessory providers.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for sharing, John.

[@rcmoral]

I have the B+W T-Pro and it works well.

[@pierangelolanfranchi5895]

Not a problem for me as I do not use uv filters at all and in the chance I have to use a nd filter I remove the hood anyway ! Not a deal breaker for me personally

[@p6x2]

Certainly, but you want that issue fixed because if you want to sell the camera, the potential buyer may want that feature.

[@pierangelolanfranchi5895]

@@p6x2 may be but this one is a keeper 😀

[@p6x2]

@@pierangelolanfranchi5895 I understand what you mean. I have my Canon AE-1 which I purchased in the 70's. This was my first ever camera.

[@mathphotographer]

Good attitude, like it :)

[@solusquinto]

Mhmm … why use a Filter anyway? The Lens is already protected by the Lens Hood 🤔 The only reason for me to remove the Lens Hood would be to mount a Circular Polarization Filter 🤔

[@forsterdaniel]

step-up ring to larger diameter + corresponding filter + corresponding diameter third party lens cap. I have a Q3 (28) and as soon as I started to play around with filters (ND's, POL, Mist), I found very unpractical to stay 43mm. A step-up ring to a standard higher diameter gives plenty of third party lens cap choices. But I do agree : shame Leica for this design fail. Of course this does not solve the lens shade... Anyhow, is this Q3 "43" for a market segment with no knowledge of filters ?

[@mathphotographer]

Step-up ring actually is a great idea!

[@keithwee]

I believe Leica does not see this as an oversight sadly, they will likely rather prefer owners buy the Q round hood as an extra accessory if they wish to use filters

[@mathphotographer]

Maybe yes, not sure. As said, these type of round lens hoods also exist in Leica's M line-up so they are not new. And also for the M-lenses you then don't have a lens cap if the round lens hood is mounted.

[@p6x2]

There is no doubt in my mind that Leica will come up with a new lens hood that will solve the problem. German engineering cannot tolerate this kind of imperfection. I do not own a Leica, but on every lens, I have a UV Filter to protect the glass. It even makes more sense when you have a fixed lens camera. My first camera, a Canon AE1 still has its UV filter attached to the 50mm lens. I purchased it in the 70's.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for sharing.

[@lucacapomagi4829]

Il problema c’è solo nella modalità macro o sempre?

[@p6x2]

Sempre. Senza filtro, il macro mode funziona. Con il filtro piu fino che permette di avitar il hood, non puoi piu avere il mode macro.

[@mathphotographer]

@@p6x2 Correct, thanks.

[@Watch.doc3]

No filters will allow macro mode. For now I’m settling for a round lens hood and a plastic 49mm lens cap which will allow for a uv filter and easily switch to macro mode.

[@paulf3353]

Cokin harmonie may work, this is a thinnest i had so far

[@mathphotographer]

Will do exactly the same. And until then I go without any filters. As said in the video, the lens hood "as is" protects the lens very well from scratches so I just shoot the Q3 without a protective filter and have the macro mode available.

[@mathphotographer]

@@paulf3353 Thanks for sharing, appreciated!

[@AstroMatten]

That's why low profile ("thin") filters exist. For me not an issue at all. The lens hood is already a sufficient protection. Why adding an additional glass layer with the risk of reflections etc.? When using ND or polarization filters (which you want to mount for a certain light situation or style) you have to remove the lens hood anyway.

[@mathphotographer]

Agree, As said in the video, the lens hood "as is" protects the lens very well from scratches so I just shoot the Q3 without a protective filter and have the macro mode available.

[@张开羽]

you may try the original filter 13329

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks, saw it on Ebay.

[@arieh4298]

Sorry but why don’t you just take out the lens hood and keep the filter on the lens?

[@bullclan]

The fact that they document it doesn't work in the manual (pg 35) is admitting that engineering lost and product marketing won; what a shame. I feel I was forced into buying the round hood if I wanted to have one solution w/out having to remove the hood, filter to take Macro shots and not risk any damage to the lens. A workaround was figured out on this channel kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6mXp6eEfamoedEsi=wzHxgeLqcfsm3cEl

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for sharing, watched the video and is a great life hack. Well done by this youtuber!

[@lelandfitz1762]

So Leica says there are other filters out there that fit, yet their *own Leica Filters* don't? I don't want to judge but I get why people are dissapointed (altough most of them never owned a Leica haha)

[@mathphotographer]

Its not that bad, does not kill my love for the Q3 43 :) As said in the video, the lens hood "as is" protects the lens very well from scratches so I just shoot the Q3 without a protective filter and have the macro mode available at all times. I currently carry my Q3 43 with me wherever I go, love shooting it :)

[@lelandfitz1762]

@@mathphotographer For me UV filters and such aren't that important. Though I have a Polarization Filter on most of the time, so that would make it difficult (but just talking as an interested person, I am not about to buy one)

[@low42g]

In the Oxford Dictionary, where they describe 'first world problems', there's a link to this video.

[@mathphotographer]

Haha - like your comment, its indeed a "luxury problem", agree 100% :) Let's hope the channel grows from the cross link in the famous Oxford Dictionary :) Like the idea!

[@zoltankaparthy9095]

I think that Marketing designed the hood/filter combo not Engineering.

[@mathphotographer]

Probably yes :)

[@hartmut-wilms]

The design of the lens hood supplied with the Leica Q3 43 is an outrage or a sign of the degenerating engineering skills at Leica. Something like that must not happen! The fact that the lens hood of the Q3 (28) does not fit properly on the Q3 43 leaves me speechless and shaking my head. Now to the solutions: You already mentioned the thinner filter. I would definitely tend towards the B+W filters. I have the T-Pro 007 43mm here and the dimensions are 5.36mm in height including the thread and 2.99mm without the thread. With these dimensions, you should be able to find out whether the B+W fits by comparing it with the Hama filter - assuming that the 49mm filter has the same height. The B+W is (unfortunately) titanium-colored, which I do not like. B+W offers a black "XS-Pro" variant, which is of the same quality, but not as thin. Alternatively, you can use the round lens hood (accessory), which also allows other (thicker) filters. Since the price is absolutely outrageous, I recommend the JJC lens hood for Leica Q3, Q2 and Q instead. This costs around EUR 50.00. The "problem" with the lens cap can be easily solved by buying the Leica 14001 E49 lens cap, for example. Finally, a tip about the hand grip. The ones for the Q3 43 and the Q3 look nice, but in my opinion they are functionally inadequate. I'm not sure, but the one for the Q3 43 with the wireless charging function cannot even be removed by hand and prevents access to the battery and SD card slot. Speaking of wireless charging: that is also unspeakable. The charging station and the camera with the handle have to be aligned exactly so that charging actually starts. It's unbelievable and outrageous. Here I recommend the HG-Q3 handle, also from JJC, for just over EUR 50.00. The workmanship is great, looks high quality, has an Arca-type quick release plate design and you can access the battery, its release and the SD card slot without having to remove the grip. OK, you then have to charge it with a cable, but for me that is much more acceptable than the disadvantages of the Leica original. The brand name JJC is only on the underside of the grip and can probably be easily removed with acetone. In my opinion, Leica should be ashamed of the design of the lens hood, its mount and the accessories for wireless charging. Otherwise, the Q3 43 is a fantastic camera that complements my Q3 and will hopefully be shipped to me by my dealer in October.

[@mathphotographer]

Thanks for sharing, much appreciated.

[@marcusoutdoors4999]

It’s a convex front element so almost impossible to scratch… so a non issue for me.

[@sureshmoolgavkar720]

Clearly a case of form over function. Leica is guilty of this in every product they manufacture, although overall I simply ignore these deficiencies and buy the product anyway. As an example, consider the Hasselblad X2D vs any Leica camera. The X2D is complete as it is sold: no accessory grips, thumb grips etc. are necessary. The handling and balance are perfect without any accessories. Not so with Leica bodies. I would be uncomfortable using any of the Leica cameras, particularly the Q and M cameras, without an accessory grip. And yet, Hasselblad has not surrendered form to function. The X2D is absolutely beautiful. I use both Hasselblad and Leica systems, and I always find myself reaching for the X2D. The M11 is a close second. On the filter issue, I never use any filters, including polarizers, I am not a professional, and so I am willing to pass up a shot that could have been improved with a polarizer.

[@henryt9254]

What were the Leica engineers smoking ? Unlike the pancake lens, 43mm is a very normal lens and there is plenty of leeway in avoiding such an issue. A real shame.

[@sampodhorsky178]

I wish I had your problem... I wish I owned a Leica 😅

[@mathphotographer]

Haha, like your comment, its a luxury problem in its purest form, you are absolutely right :)