NEW M4 MacBook Pro with M4 Max looks WILD!

[@frenchpressfinance]

Thank you for the "All M-series Chip" performance chart, especially the one where they're ranked by performance. Really shows where my M1 Max is sitting relative to everything else. I'm still extremely happy with it for what I anticipate doing with it, so I imagine I'll keep it until the M5 or M6 come out but I appreciate you showing it like that. Dropping that much $$ on the M1 Max was a leap of faith for me at the time and while it's not the top of the chart any more, happy to know it's still a good buy.

[@ericbauer4559]

Agreed. Ordered an M4 mini w/512gb, looking to compare it to my base M1 Max studio.

[@zh9732]

I had to sell a motorcycle to buy a darn 16” max. I’m hoping I get 10 freakin years out of it at least. I got about 12 out of the Mac pro and it was about the same price. I may jump for 3x, maybe 2x the core count though

[@mtbrecords1623]

I have an M2 Mac mini and I really regret upgrading the ram and not the SSD.. definitely considering trading it in for the new Mac mini

[@etherealbolweevil6268]

@@zh9732 Apple's 8ish year self imposed limit on operating system support is something of an issue with the more powerful old machines which are still fully competent, but not supported. Yes there are some workarounds, but Apple users don't usually enjoy workarounds and the endless problems.

[@LoftyVisions]

My M1 max was stolen in a break in but I'm going for the pro this time I think. It's still way more power than the average user needs

[@movdqa]

It's a great machine. But I can't justify upgrading my M1 Pro MacBook Pro. My M1 Pro already has more compute power than I need.

[@mikhail4486]

This month I bought 16 inch MBP M1 Pro 16 512 for 1500, and I’m so happy with it, since blender has support for metal technology- render power is sufficient enough for me and cpu performance is on par with my pc with Intel 12700, while doing all that on a battery with no sweat. That’s a great deal I think

[@henson2k]

Upgrade cycles are getting longer, there is no need to upgrade every 2-3 years.

[@nq54]

My m1 air is still more powerful than what I need lol.

[@msagoo29]

Yep, still sticking with my M1 Pro MBP.

[@nq54]

@@msagoo29 Mine is still just as good as the day I bought it. I'm going to keep it till it breaks.

[@timfireblade]

The Air memory update was a nice surprise.

[@phoenixbircsak3885]

i was fully expecting it to only happen once the new mbp came out but it's already happened

[@cjeelde]

Air = MacBook Bro :)

[@Games_and_Tech]

Apple needs to get rid of the 256 and 512 storage

[@nuribayram6740]

this, 512 is ok, but 256 is like something spitting in your face while selling it to you, same as 8gb ram that should be illegal

[@djxcel23]

Yea i can deal with 500gb. 256 is for a kids tablet

[@Mariolce793]

Apple should’ve not care about 256GB.

[@GlobalWave1]

They need to get rid of those and anything with a pro name needs 16gb of ram and 1TB of storage as a baseline. 516gb is fine on an air but upgrade prices shouldn’t be so expensive.

[@PeterSniff]

@@nuribayram6740 512 is also spitting in your face if they take their 'pro' lineup seriously...

[@ecomwithTrevor]

Can't wait for M10 Max

[@mba2808]

Man I can't wait for M4A1

[@JulianCSW]

@@mba2808underrated comment

[@Shaunmcdonogh-shaunsurfing]

lol. Me too. I suppose they will call it the MX

[@esamelkawkgy7407]

So that I can buy the m1

[@egacias]

M1000 Max 😂

[@gliderman9302]

the air is really great value right now!

[@Littlebrownchicken]

M1 Pro on Amazon is a better one

[@kevin-sj3wt]

Best news isnt m4, they double the ram of airs is the best😂😂😂

[@redeem5858]

@@Littlebrownchickenew no

[@fVNzO]

technically🤓airs are so much cheaper outside of the apple store that it's still not a fantastic value. But in a year or so when old stock is cleared out. These will flood the retail market and become insane value.

[@Littlebrownchicken]

@@redeem5858 bigger, better battery, more storage, more ports, significantly better display, keyboard, way better speakers, better external display support, it has fans for ore sustained workloads, better ram bandwidth, better microphones, it’s more durable, more professionally oriented performance cores, the only caveat is that it’s only used.

[@fVNzO]

IMO the RAM upgrade should be a priority over the storage and beefier M4 Pro. They actually made it a bit cheaper to double up to 48GB, that it used to be for the 32/36 of the older generations. So even though you're still being robbed in broad daylight, it's a bit better value this time around.

[@JustineCooksVegan]

Do you think the MacBook m4 pro chip with 14 cpu/20 gpu with 48 gb of ram is worth getting over an m3 max chip with 14/30 & 36 ram for video editing? The m3 max chips seems to heat up a little bit. Thank you! ☺️🙏🏼

[@goinginzane]

​@JustineCooksVegan for video editing performance, the GPU is usually the most important factor. The M4 Pro GPUs didn't seem to get that much of a performance upgrade this generation, so pretty good chance the M3 Max will still outperform the M4 Pro by a healthy margin and thus will probably do better during most editing scenarios.

[@etherealbolweevil6268]

I see the RAM being fabricated directly on the processor chip, so more RAM is a new chip design and new manufacturing run with all the associated costs (fewer CPU chips per wafer etc.). This seems a much more expensive thing than the old days with an external SIMM option and likely to plateau due to die size and chip density limitations. I can see more memory moving into the CPU / GPU components rather than sitting as a discrete block on the chip. I am, historically, usually wrong on such things.

[@JustineCooksVegan]

@@goinginzane thanks for the info! So you think 30 GPU on the m3 max is going to make a different compared to the 20 GPU on m4 pro chip? I guess I was told extra ram is important in video editing so was going to go from 36 gb to 48 on an M4. But now I’m reconsidering if the 10 GPU is more important… 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@michvod]

Please, please, do a comparison of M4 with M1 Pro and M1 Max chips. Last time, you compared M3 with M2, but not with M1. There are lots of people out there (including me) that are still rocking MBPs with M1 chips and for most of us those are still perfectly adequate, but if M4 really is so much better, it will be a good consideration towards an upgrade to M4.

[@martyk656]

Agreed. I'd like to know exactly where & when having more GPU cores is worth having if you don't play games on Macs. I've got the extra GPU cores on my M1 Max Studio but my i9 Windows PC with an RTX 4080 GPU can render in a couple of minutes what takes 15 minutes on my Studio.

[@alphaarchive5262]

Unless you really need that extra performance for a heavy kind of usage, the M1 chip is still perfectly usable today.

[@michvod]

@@alphaarchive5262 M1 is perfect for probably 80-90% of all people, but I am creative content creator and need that extra "oomph" sometimes. For example, for video export and editing, and photo noise reduction and upscaling. If it takes now 10 seconds to do a task, and it will take 3 seconds on M4, then that saves me lots of time - instead of doing one thing for 3 hours, you can get it done in just 1, and those hours quickly add up :) Also, one more thing, the SSD in M1 MBPs were blazing fast by the 2021 standards, but now you can get a 1TB SSD for less than $100 that is twice as fast as the one in M1. So would be also interesting to compare the SSD speeds between generations.

[@radiologistanonymous2353]

I am a routine user. So still using M1. But for professional users [whoever they may be]; this is possible the ideal cycle to replace the old MacBook. So, comparison with M1 variants is the best needed. Thanks for your query. And I hope more like and reply on your comment will draw his attention.

[@Shaunmcdonogh-shaunsurfing]

Still just using a regular M1 - and its performance for development is still great

[@abz7800]

not just great but its amazing it still beats some new windows laptops that are high end 4 years later .lets not forget windows still arent fanless like macs what magic apple is doing there idk windows is a dead as dust

[@rideroliver]

Agreed as I do the same with a m1 air.... but more ram and fan 🥵 will be a welcome upgrade.

[@carlosap78]

I have the M1 Pro, and I just enabled apple intelligence. It amazes me that it still works well; I thought it would be slow, but no-what a nice surprise!

[@robertsimondj]

same, I love it! :) and I writing music and make graphic design, so...still banger (M1 2020 MBP)

[@Lux-in-luv]

Just recently got the MacBook pro M1 Pro chip 2021 and it is a beast! I love it and it is so beautiful and still uses the same design as the current design. anyone else think its crazy how apple on their website only gives the m1 and m1 pro chips and max as the example of how much faster the m4's are? they never use the m2 and on for their examples. I love apple but come on the m1 pro and m1 max chips changed the game and I love love love seeing everyone else using the m1 pro still!

[@zacksstuff]

The one for me is going to be an M4 Air once that hopefully drops in a few months. Ability to drive 2 external displays with the lid open and 16 gigs standard checks 2 pretty important boxes for me.

[@AppleTrack]

ALREADY ORDERED

[@patynavidadfantastic]

Excelent 💻

[@louis_sharp]

Same. What spec?

[@ssaaffuu]

sam when is the vid to all announcement's?

[@stevens1041]

Hell yeah

[@gianfc2001]

I wonder if the M1 Pro MacBook Pro is still better than the M4 non pro base model

[@nathan43082]

I am so annoyed by the "faster" term being applied to something that is multiplicative. The term for the 2.5x multiplier would be 2.5 times as fast, not faster. Faster implies that the end result is actually 3.5 times as fast: 1x base speed + 2.5x faster = 3.5 times as fast. Yes, I am being pedantic, but I find it annoying that Apple uses this misleading term.

[@robertlovlie5194]

I'm right there with you, but that's a plague that's not limited to Cupertino. It's all over the English speaking world, and I'm afraid it's endemic at this point.

[@Johan-r3n]

It’s not misleading because 99.9% reads the sentence in another way than you are

[@mowtow90]

Its the standard Apple marking - show something on a basic graff with no details and tell its faster.... Until we see those in real world workload , any specualtion is pointless.

[@hacorn96]

i agree with you. words and meanings matter. of all companies, apple should be cognizant.

[@RiqMoran]

that was actually really confusing to me bc i thought no way is it 3x faster than M1.. and it isnt...

[@MaxTechOfficial]

Amazing work on the charts!

[@JZZV2]

The M1 Pro MacBook Pro is really great value right now, you can get yourself one at just 1.249 refurbished and they still run great!!

[@josuastangl7140]

I got one used a year ago for 1,300€ and it was one of the best purchases I've ever made!

[@JohnSwen-p6b]

I agree with your assessment that the M4Pro was the best value. I was a bit surprised that you could only go up to 48 GB of RAM with the M4 Pro in the MacBook Pro, but you could go up to 64 GB of RAM in the M4 Pro Mac Mini. Regardless, I decided to upgrade my 4 yr old M1 Air with 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD to M4Pro with 48 GB RAM and 2 TB Storage. I expect to get another 4-5 years of use out of the new laptop.

[@MickeyMishra]

What blows me away is the efficiency. These machines do things with such little power used, its on another level. The fact you have this much power on a laptop with that amazing battery life, GAME CHANGER! As long as it has 16GB of RAM? Sold. I use my machine mainly for web surfing, but I have to say, a Browser taking up most of your CPU resources is common today for me with so many Tabs open.

[@Fujikonpix]

browsing for $1599 for the latest? oh my.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

The power efficiency isn't nearly as impressive as it was 5 years ago. By some metrics, Intel is now better and AMD is only about 10% behind.

[@MickeyMishra]

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Agreed. The competition is catching up. Still mind blowing what it can do where as on a PC, you need watercooling. I wonder if anyone has tried to overclock any of the recent apple stuff?

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

@@MickeyMishra You never need water cooling to do anything on a PC. Water cooling in desktop PCs exists for 2 reasons. First, it is less likely to get damaged in shipping because the weight is distributed across more mounting points than large air coolers. Second, aesthetics and bragging rights. It is never actually about cooling ability compared to air. Comparing desktop PC hardware and Apple hardware on efficiency is not entirely fair. They choose to target different points on the efficiency curve. Intel targets absolute performance, AMD dials it back like 5% to recover 20% of energy usage, and Apple throttles like 20% to save 50% on energy. You get a much more direct comparison by comparing efficiency in laptops. There Apple has barely improved at all since M1, AMD has made slow but significant progress, and Intel has made massive progress. They are all very close now. Intel has the lead in active use battery life normalized by battery capacity, but is the slowest while doing so. When measuring by Geekbench score per Watt, Apple still has the lead, but it is very small. In data centers water cooling helps increase density, but you still need to put radiators somewhere. Net density stays the same, but server room density in isolation increases.

[@MickeyMishra]

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Legit high quality post.

[@Skaratak]

The Max is the most underwhelming upgrade this year. The M4 Pro is the new star. A comparison between the *Full Pro (48GB)* vs the *binned Max (36GB)* would be interesting!

[@UK-be2os]

The FULL PRO would be 64GB of ram, iirc

[@CalebKussmaul]

If only it weren’t such a difference in memory bandwidth. That matters a lot in some applications.

[@kateofone]

The M4 Pro should have 64 gb ram

[@koto9x]

why

[@jpdemer5]

Now do that chart at 6:00 sorted by current prices for comparably equipped MBPs.

[@justanormaluser1535]

2:25 the 2020 27" iMac also had an inti-reflective matt display option!

[@SweetSweetCandyBoyz]

I love how low the bar is. Don't get me wrong, the M4 is a great upgrade, especially if you have a base M1 or M2 machine. I just still can't forgive the original upcharge to go from 8GB to 16gb or the existing 256GB to 512GB SSD.

[@KierDarby]

One thing not mentioned here on differences between Pro and Max is display support. I run 3 Studio Displays and so Apple gives me no alternative but Max

[@martynmarriott2700]

7:03 this is true for CPU performance however, the Max and ultra chips have more video encoders so if you edit video, it will still be faster with these. Looking forward to your benchmark comparison video soon.

[@toolsaddiction]

I had the old mac with the anti glare screen loved that thing i was sad when the display broke, pre orded an m4 with anti glare screen picked the silver one because nostalgia

[@dawnpoint]

I wanna see the M2 Ultra Mac Pro vs the M4 Pro Mac Mini.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Still rocking my M1 Pro. I will not upgrade until 1TB becomes the default and/or upgrade costs get cut by 75%.

[@williamrodriguez6502]

Those charts were really great to be used as a comparison, thank you!

[@franzpleurmann2585]

Please do more charts with the entire apple silicon lineup but also include memory bandwidth and gpu cores.

[@ARSENiK_Productions]

I’m surprised they didn’t do Studio and Pro updates. I’m still waiting on them to do a Mac Pro Max, with like a dual socket setup

[@KironKabir]

ngl you've got the best mac videos on yt

[@Lux-in-luv]

Just recently got the MacBook pro M1 Pro chip 2021 and it is a beast! I love it and it is so beautiful and still uses the same design as the current design. anyone else think its crazy how apple on their website only gives the m1 and m1 pro chips and max as the example of how much faster the m4's are? they never use the m2 and on for their examples. I love apple but come on the m1 pro and m1 max chips changed the game and I love love love seeing everyone else using the m1 pro still!

[@BrianRodgersJr]

I have a fully configured M1 Ultra Mac Studio and I absolutely love it. But as you know, man it was expensive. The M4 Pro looks super impressive from a value standpoint, especially based on this Geekbench Multicore Score. What I would love to know more about is the GPU performance, specifically for 3D performance in Blender. I have the 64 Core GPU in my Mac Studio, but the newer chips like the M4 have hardware ray tracing. I've love to see how the 20 Core GPU with Ray Tracing in the M4 Pro compares to the 64 Core GPU in the M1 Ultra Mac Studio. Not just rendering time, but also viewport performance when moving around heavy scenes.

[@gatotsukoco20]

0:24 not bodybuilder but olympic weightlifter 😉

[@stevepfi1]

Those GeekBench 6 graphs were incredibly helpful... thank you!

[@ml5323]

picking mine up on November 9th --> base model Macbook Pro with M4, no upgrades. Never have I owned a Mac

[@unquestionabletv]

All i want to pull the trigger is fete have hdmi port to be a built-in capture card, and four T5 ports. Then I’ll max out the whole thing. If brightness was SLIGHTLY higher that would be cool too for direct poolside support

[@rg975]

Still balling out on my M1 Max 16. Hasn’t skipped a beat, best laptop I’ve ever used. Hoping they increase storage for next years base models, 512gb for a “pro” laptop in 2024 isn’t acceptable

[@benabner7951]

Thanks for all you do Luke. I agree with you, I am interested in the 14/16 " unbinned M4 Pro Macbook Pro and would like to see that one reviewed. Thanks again!

[@maximus7288]

I bought in April a MacBook Pro with M3 Pro chip, not planning of upgrading it in at least 5 years

[@dh3302]

I wonder if the base model with the M4 will still has one fan or does it now have two fans like the pro and max models?

[@a85cc]

Still on a 2019 Intel 16 inch MacBook Pro here and am planning to move to the next Mac Studio when it comes out. Can’t wait to see what performance that beast is going to have!!

[@justinkuglin]

Makes me wonder what the M4 Ultra is going to look like.

[@sahinev]

M1 MacBook Pro 16GB is still super uber duper for me. No reason to upgrade from M1. But thanks for the review Luke 🙏

[@scoopof3d]

Just ordered M4 Max 64gb 4TB. Jumping from M1Max. Pro maxes out at 48gb ram :/ Apple said M4Max has enough power to run denoiser in real time in Davinci.

[@Gabriel-iq6ug]

Waiting for the perf of the Mac Studio M4

[@josephtayloruk]

Just ordered the £2400 "M4 pro" option. Time to retire the mid 2015 macbook pro. So excited for it to arrive next Friday!

[@PeterRince]

9:00 You're also getting 2x higher bandwidth. In M4 Max it is 546 Gb/s instead of 273 Gb/s in M4 Pro.

[@HearMeLearn]

sounds to me like if you're buying new you should go for any of the m4 machines. It truly is a big jump across the entire product stack, so unless you're getting a really good deal and you know the performance from the older chip is enough, I'd rather get an m4/pro/max

[@ZZxlizrx]

Hey! I just wanna tell you for your old macbook videos you can upgrade their os with opencore legacy patcher

[@psznt]

What would you choose for Davinci Resolve Fusion intensinsive (motion blur, Magic Mask, speed ramp, etc). An M3 Max 128Gb or an M4 Max 64gb? (FYI I have an M1 Max 64gb and lately it started to lag like crazy with motion blur and keying or more complex color grading with dehaze and halation…

[@chrisbogart687]

I went for the unbined 14 M4 Pro and upped the memory to 48g. I passed on the M4 Max. I traded in my old M1 MacBook Pro. Massive upgrade.

[@alastairleith8612]

you get the right take always. others just bang on reading the press release. well done.

[@videofrat3115]

I have a request for your future videos. I am planning to upgrade to M4 14 inch and my main priority will be battery life because i am always on the go (rarely use demanding tasks). Can you please do a real world battery life comparison between the base M4, and the binned M4 pro, and the full M4 pro? Depending on this real world battery i will do my purchase. If there is no significant hit on battery life i will go with the higher models but if battery takes a hit i will keep the base one.

[@ekinteko]

Hey Luke, I loved your performance in Superstore! 😁

[@anianii]

4:49 Just for the future, please don't confuse "1.2 times faster" with "1.2 times the performance". One is an increase of 120%, the other of 20%, which is what you actually mean

[@amitkumar-wj8gn]

These guys are in such a hurry to release videos, the math goes for a toss

[@cpcallen]

No, there is no ordinary usage of the phrase "1.2 times faster" than means an increase of 120%; it always means an increase of 20%.

[@anianii]

@ You're referring to "1.2 times as fast". Unless you're using it wrong

[@CollinShook]

What it it mean if one were to say “the new computer is 1 times faster”?

[@anianii]

@ That would mean twice as fast, so a performance increase of 100%

[@leeahegg2377]

Waiting for your hands-on review!

[@Lux-in-luv]

Are you going to get the m4 with the standard display or the nano texture?

[@arctan2010]

I agree with the sweet spot choice for the 14”. Can’t wait for the hands on review.

[@ericchang7759]

It's interesting how Apple has basically made the Max chip just a slight performance bump, and I agree the strongest value/performance proposition is in the M4 Pro. Just wish they had a 36GB option in the Pro. Also, base storage increase might come in a couple years, but we'll see. You would be surprised how many people don't really need large storage.

[@Treborray]

Yoo i didn’t even see the body builder part haha. I like it

[@SanderM3P]

I would like your opinion on the configurations, for example: you can't get 64GB of memory on the pro or the "binned" max, you have to select the full 40 core max to get the 64GB upgrade. Also you can get the pro with 48GB of memory, but if you then upgrade to the binned M4 Max the memory goes DOWN to 36GB, for MORE money. It seems these M4 are very expensive and they need the margins on these upgrades to make up for the extra costs, what do you think?

[@matthewmastrobuono582]

This is a crazy good upgrade. I think I’ll stick with my M1 Pro. I do notice slipping render speeds if I’m adding some extra noise reduction but it’s rare I do noise reduction work. When I’m ready it’s nice to know this is available. Cyberpunk on the Mac…I tried it with game porting toolkit. Worked decent. Is this the first aaa port?

[@EmrahDemirag]

I'm super excited to switch form 16 inch 2019 intel to 14 inch m4 pro max. Finally it's happening

[@Marriu1]

The most interesting option for me will be a drop-off of the prices of used MacBooks. I'm not interested in expensive MacBooks, but the price of the basic M4 Mac mini seems to be excellent

[@FestusMuberuka]

can you compare m1 max and m4 pro is it worth it

[@Anshukhowala]

Should I wait for macbook air M4?

[@bunbohue369]

I almost pull the trigger on the M3 pro, I am so glad that I wait.

[@PappaMike-vc1qv]

The Studio now needs and upgrade more than ever.

[@jasonwilliammerrill]

Im SOOO disappointed. I was forced into upgrading from my M1 Pro to M3 Pro, not knowing the decrease in memory bandwidth or less performance cores, now with M4 specs looking so good I feel like I paid for an inferior computer.

[@uee-cube4701]

stop using that m3 and upgrade go the m4 now

[@sunthroughtheblinds]

Forced?

[@jasonwilliammerrill]

@@sunthroughtheblinds haha yeah, by my own doing :( I completely flooded my M1 with coffee and I needed a machine for 3 days later to perform at a show. Where I live in Canada prevented me from getting it fixed in time so I had to buy another while AppleCare fixed my M1. Only place was a local shop here called Staples. So I ‘forced’ myself to “upgrade” which wasn’t much of an upgrade. M3 lowered memory bandwidth and P cores directly affecting what I do. Now, perhaps the M3 outshine the M1 for most things, I’ve noticed longer render times with it.

[@jasonwilliammerrill]

it’s still a great computer and I’m very thankful.. however I wish I could have aligned my upgrade with M4 Pro 16”

[@marjeh100]

You should wait last year

[@mariusebauer]

John Ternus is doing a brilliant job. As well as the pricing team 👌🏼 These are priced very, very well. Your comparison is spot on Luke :)

[@andrewillingworth]

Does the M4 chip applys specs the same on the new Mac mini? If so the Mac mini is such a great upgrade

[@Dygear]

"Next do the storage" - Yup. So true. 256 on a laptop doesn't make a damn bit of sense.

[@davidlarson2534]

I remember getting excited when I could afford going from 4K RAM to 8K. Good review Luke. The M4 looks to be a significant leap. Now to decide between the Mini and MacBook. I still enjoy and use my iPad Pro 5th Gen. I haven’t had a Mac laptop since my ClamShell Mac laptop. I wrote a screenplay on it.

[@songsan807]

The good news for me is that the M1 and M2 MBP are going to be cheaper. So I might look into getting one of those instead. Unless I opt for the regular M4.

[@amiltonfcjunior]

Luke, what do you think about the Ultra lineup? Is it over?

[@christopherstewart7811]

Some of the performance gains should be attributed to the use of ARMv9 and the increased memory bandwidth.

[@bradstudio]

Buy the smaller storage MBP and some 2x 2TB NANDs, and have a professional solder ball them for you for a fraction of the price.

[@zach6822]

2:09 correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure in 2020 on the last intel imacs we got nano texture displays?

[@jpracing893]

Heavily tempted to upgrade from my M2 Pro 16" to an M4 Pro, but I think I'd hold off for the M5 as I heard that has the redesign. But have to see how these perform, they look awesome and the nice upgrade in base RAM is nice.

[@arlencarlson]

I really like the present overall design…if they do change it for the worse with M5, I will then definitely grab an M4Pro or M4Max next year (new or refurb). I did the same when the last of the non-Retina 2012 MBPs was still sold into 2013. That machine is still going strong, although my main machines are now an M1Pro 16” and a M2 Air.

[@jpracing893]

@ Yeah I do as well, I heard it’s basically the same just its thinner, still keeping all the ports and the overall design language just won’t be as chunky. But yeah if there’s any issues with the design or it overheats etc, I’d probably pick up a M4 Max as they’ll come down in price. But for now as we’re probably a year away from a design change I’m happy to hold off.

[@LanceNotHiding]

Checking back in to confirm something. The M4 Geekbench numbers are from the iPad Pro right? Could that score go up because its going to get active cooling in the new machines?

[@TheDanEdwards]

Latest M4 Geekbench scores are from Mac16 which is the latest model of Macs.

[@TravellingTechie]

Still rocking my M1 Pro MBP, still don’t see a reason to upgrade. Mine does everything I want it to. The Mac mini however might be great for home though…

[@codecaine]

I agree I bought the 16 inch pro with 48gb memory and 1tb. In reality the base model is good enough for CPU speed.

[@gmd9767]

Just ordered the Apple MacBook M4 Max chip with 16‑core CPU, 40‑core GPU and 16‑core Neural Engine, 128GB unified memory, 4TB SSD storage. It's a 5 year investment, Upgrading from the late 2021 Apple MacBook M1 Max, 64GB, 4TB which is now 3 years old, still runs great. You only live once so why the hell not :-)

[@JustineCooksVegan]

Thanks for the first review! Do you think the MacBook m4 pro chip with 14 cpu/20 gpu with 48 gb of ram is worth getting over an m3 max chip with 14/30 & 36 ram for long form video editing? The m3 max chips seems to heat up a little bit. Thank you! ☺️🙏🏼

[@kaanoezgen]

I am interested in this question as well 😄

[@blairmillward8408]

9:53 It's $3,999 in Australia for the base model 16 inch 🙃

[@scratchanitch]

I wonder how long it's going to take the used market to adjust?

[@galaballi]

nice video, defiantly worth the upgrade for 48GB for 400$ 24 is not enough for creators

[@trevorliu9205]

Have been following your channel for a while now. Still sticking with my 2019 16inch Intel MBP, sometimes it’s a bit slow but everything still works fine. Why should I upgrade? My first MBP at 2012, got another one at 2019, next will be 2026. Can’t wait!!!

[@VeitLehmann]

Nice! The Pro is a real Pro again, and the regular M4 is really impressive as well. I'm currently using an M3 Max, which is a real upgrade compared to the M3 Pro. For most people or my personal use. I'd consider a refurbished M1 Pro, M2 Pro, or now the regular M4. Even for my most challenging tasks, I'd have no need for the M4 Pro, since I don't need massive GPU power. But in terms of storage, I agree: starting with 512 GB is a shame, this needs to change.

[@stevens1041]

Much more interested in this than the Mini. I do everything with my Macbook Pro, completely have abused two different pros the last ten years and they never faltered. Amazing laptops.

[@epo299]

Hows the heat and fan noise?

[@DMoneySmooth]

Didn’t read all the comments, but HUGE differences between the M4 Pro and M4 Max chips is that the M4 Pro chips have 1 Video Encoder Engine and 1 ProRes Encoder/Decoder Engine while the M4 Max has 2 Video Encoder Engines and 2 ProRes Encoder/Decoder Engines! Interesting though, both chips only have 1 Video Decoder Engine. I can’t wait to see the comparisons that you guys come up with to test these two variants. Me personally, I’m waiting on the M5 chips. I thought I read somewhere that the MBPs will have a slight re-design when that chip comes out…

[@Slambear]

Thinking about replacing my 14” M1 Pro for the m4 pro Mac mini for Video editing. Thoughts?

[@synen]

Do they have Thunderbolt 5 like the Mini ?

[@Thinkofsomethingnew]

they must do surely

[@EliezYT]

I have no idea what happened to the 6 E cores? The M4 has it but why not the M4 Pro and M4 Max? It seems like they are just leaving performance and efficiency on the table.

[@dsmith5940]

So… gaming on a full-fat M4 Max? I’d like to see some benchmarks. As, we’re never going to get eGPUs. I wish the Max chipset was available in the Mac Mini. That would be ideal for my needs

[@yarikpanteleev]

I bought M1 Max MacBook Pro in 2022 and don’t plan to change, even though 3 new generations were released already and they are very good. My current one is just NOT BAD ENOUGH to get replace😁

[@matthieuducorps8729]

1:26 Yeah that's it! 🎉

[@YumeFox]

I'm really curious about the base-model MacMini For 699€, or 599$, it seems like an amazing value for money machine.

[@AbdalaBrothers]

The only guy actually predicting numbers with maths while every other channel only repeated the same thing apple said in their keynote and even managed to take longer than apple

[@ia6980]

Planning to order m4 max, 64 ram, 2tb memory