New Mass Problems 11: Anticipatory (Saturday) Mass

[@maryelisabeth7167]

Sunday is the Lords day in the Catholic church. God comes first, make holy the sabbath day.

[@donnarock7842]

God Bless you too, for not being afraid to speak the TRUTH and share it!

[@donnarock7842]

I used to go a lot with my parents in the 80's, but as I got older, I became more deeply Traditional, and did not like to attend the Saturday Evening. I was raised in the Tridentine Mass, Sacraments, Office, etc. And now, I desire more and more to attend the TLM when I am able.

[@stopfabrications]

Dr. Carol Byrne has an excellent and informative ongoing series explaining the history of how the destruction of the Catholic faith began and why. It is called Dialogue Mass.

[@teresaoftheandes6279]

I have not attended a New Mass in over 20 years. I moved so that I could be close to a full time TLM parish. I realize, especially now, thanks to Bidenomics, that it's not possible for most people.

[@RaulSGarza]

Great explanation. I didn’t know it was by permission at first

[@catholicesquire]

Yes, most of the novelties were first only by permission. Communion in the hand, for example, is another one.

[@CatholicMailman]

@@catholicesquire I believe even Vatican 2 states that the proper way to receive Holy Communion is kneeling down and on the tongue and the the alternative is on the hand. Nowadays it’s the alternative that is the common practice!

[@matthewschmidt5069]

​@catholicesquire Communion on the hand was the dominant practice of the first millennium. Your lack of historical understanding is troubling

[@Mar--Mar]

Another problem is that of slowly slipping into the preferred mode of worship of Jews, Seventh Day Adventists, and other sects who consider Saturday to be the Sabbath day.

[@johnnytoronto1066]

I'm still waiting to learn one good thing that came out of Vatican II.

[@blackhawcatholic]

I like to remember that new Catholics are joining more than ever and the N.O. has created saints.

[@johnnytoronto1066]

@@blackhawcatholic Like Cupich? Paul VI maybe? Gimme a break. These guys aren't saints. Ya want saints, take a look at the traditional Church calendar, which is bursting with them. New Catholics joining more than ever? That's just hyperbole. The apostate bishops are kicking out more saints than ever before. Further, you couldn't even count the number of converts who came into the Church back in the days when she had something real to offer them. Empty pews, my friend, empty pews, and churches closing down. Thank you, Vatican II.

[@TLM4ever]

The new saints aren’t held to the rigorous inspection like the saints of old. Thank you again , Vatican II.

[@LUIS-ox1bv]

​​@@blackhawcatholicFolks with your persuasion, only add greater emphasis to the fact that the N.O. is a new church. This exercise in ersatz Catholicism, will not have a long shelf life. Nothing fake ever does.

[@rosachu6161]

@@blackhawcatholic creating saints are much more easy and water down now-a-days (sad)

[@mariekatherine5238]

The “get it over with” Mass….

[@LUIS-ox1bv]

I have family members who approach it and treat it as such.

[@magdalenep8497]

I call the Saturday evening Mass the 'catholic lite' , come as you are, lets chat and catch up Mass.

[@ritaeslinger7011]

Hello, Catholic Esquire. Great video. In my former N.O. parish, the Sunday Mass attendance usually was greater than the Saturday anticipatory Mass, unless there was some secular event (ex. Rodeo) or it was seeding/harvesting time. The way that Canon law read, farmers would be dispensed from their Sunday obligation if they had to tend to their farm on Sunday. So yes, why bother with the Saturday anticipatory Mass? Sometimes I think it was implemented for the sake of Judeo influence. Saturday was recognized as the Sabbath. So to placate those who felt we had to hang on to Jewish custom (or create more confusion), church leadership could say, “See, we recognize our Judeo-Christian roots by having Mass on Saturday.” In reality we should be recognizing the Sacrifice of Christ which allowed for the Resurrection which happened on the first day of the week, that is Sunday. One final thing: the Saturday anticipatory Mass reduced or eliminated the First Saturday Mass and devotions. Most priests would not have a Saturday morning Mass and later on the Saturday anticipatory Mass on the same (First) Saturday. Honestly I had never heard of the five First Saturday’s until some of the older parishioners mentioned it. I am grateful I got to fulfill the 5 First Saturday’s at my SSPX mission.

[@dasan9178]

We fulfilled those long ago but continue going to them anyway in reparation for the many outrages, sacrileges and insults perpetrated on Our Lord and Lady throughout the modern world. This has become a common practice among most who attend First Friday and First Saturday masses. What many don’t know is that ANY mass on those days can count for that purpose if YOU

[@legiomariae4961]

​@@dasan9178Yes, I too attend perpetual First Fridays and First Saturdays in reparation for the continual blasphemies & sacrileges that occur.

[@legiomariae4961]

I had never heard of them until attending the SSPX. They just quietly slipped into oblivion in the new concilliar church.

[@John-js9je]

This was very well explained and presented. Bravo!

[@annie7264]

We only attend the Saturday evening Mass when it’s absolutely necessary.

[@angiepicket3750]

When would it be absolutely necessary? If you are able to make it to Mass on Saturday, what would stop you from going on Sunday? If you don't have a way to get there (no car, no driver, etc.) the Catholic Esquire reminds you that you are excused, but if you have plans, you are not excused. It's very simple: God comes first, always.

[@matthewschmidt5069]

The Catholic Esquire has no authority. ​@@angiepicket3750

[@gregcook9856]

In my diocese the Sat. anticipated Mass can be as early as 4 PM--that's hardly "evening." If the Sat. Mass could be after vespers, that might be something different.

[@johnnytoronto1066]

I'm with you there. The Jews started the new day at sunset, so I guess if you held the Mass after that you might stretch the point and say that counts as Sunday. Except it doesn't. Beginning at sunrise, Sunday all day is the Lord's Day for all the world, for reasons we Christians all know. It is the glorious day of our salvation, Every Sunday a little Easter. Glory be to God most high!

[@gregcook9856]

@@johnnytoronto1066 I used to be E. Orthodox, and they do start the liturgical day with vespers. In the divine office vespers on Sat. is considered first vespers of Sunday, but I still think there should not be an "anticipated Mass." Period.

[@gracieobunny9916]

You are correct. My parents switched to Saturday evening Mass in the 1970s. I’m not sure their motives were bad per se, because we didn’t run around on Sunday playing soccer etc. not saying they were right but I think it was at least partially motivated to keep Sunday as a stay at home and rest day. As I became an adult I didn’t feel good about Saturday evening Mass and quit going. I am completely TLM for over 4 years and Saturday Mass as the Sunday Mass just is so far off my radar now. God bless.

[@catholicesquire]

Especially at this point, people just do it because they can. They don't even think twice about it. One of my goals with this video is to get people to start thinking twice about it. And ask themselves WHY am I doing it, other than the Church says I can.

[@ronnies6811]

Pre Vatican II did the Easter or Christmas Vigils satisfy the Sunday requirement of those holidays?

[@johnbolwell5969]

It is becoming the practice to attend Saturday evening Mass "to get it out of the way so that we have all day Sunday to do what we like." It has been a gross error but which bishop is going to be willing to stand against the tide and stop it?

[@danielscalera6057]

So traditionally even an Easter vigil mass would not count as attending mass for the holy day?

[@CatholicMailman]

Easter vigil mass before was at 12:00 am which is already Easter Sunday.

[@espressocoffeeshine4346]

In the pre-55 missal, the Easter Vigil Mass when done properly starts at 6am Holy Saturday morning and ends at noon. The faithful who attend that Mass have to go to Mass on Easter Sunday. But the Lenten fast ends at noon on Holy Saturday.

[@danielscalera6057]

@@CatholicMailman I started wondering about that after I made the comment

[@tinkthestrange]

This does free up areas with few priests and many churches to have more liturgies because the priest can go to some churches on Saturdays and some on Sundays so more people have consistent access to the sacraments. When I lived in Galveston if I missed my normal mass for any reason it was like chasing priests because they alternate churches every hour or so (at least they did when I was there).

[@LarryBoivin-wk1wz]

Make church great again. MAGA.

[@CatholicMailman]

Make the Catholic Church Catholic again!

[@matthewschmidt5069]

​@@CatholicMailmanThe Catholic Church is unblemished. Church is great already. This channel and so many others reject our tradition.

[@MsDormy]

The Saturday mass is really useful for the teaching assistants who are going to be looking after children in the children’s Eucharist - where the children get to do some Bible story and activities during the first half of mass. (I personally think the children’s Eucharist is a good idea for youngsters who find it hard to concentrate, and will enjoy learning the gospel in their own group. Though, I have to say, the children at the traditional church I go to seem to be remarkably good at sitting through mass!)

[@henryweaver-g9b]

May as well mention no meat on Friday….marriage annulments,,etc,etc the list goes on…..

[@catholicesquire]

Oh trust me, I have. I do need to discuss annulments in more detail I think that is a different but also grave situation.

[@marccrotty8447]

Stay with Tradition. Attend the Latin Mass.

[@matthewschmidt5069]

You can do that with the Missal of 1969

[@cherylschalk9106]

I only go on Sundays.

[@UrielAngeli147]

If people could be trusted not to abuse the privilege, it would be a blessing. As they cannot, it's a curse.

[@christineluetgers8692]

What about Sunday evening mass?

[@catholicesquire]

It's fine. It's Sunday.

[@matthewschmidt5069]

Saturday evening is fine as well.

[@juanisaac5172]

I find no problem with Saturday Mass. For the Hebrews the day started in the evening and ended the evening of the next day. Honoring Jesus;s Jewish roots is alright.

[@catholicesquire]

The Mass is not on Saturday because it follows the Hebrews. The Church never said that was the reason for Anticipatory Mass. Probably because it doesn't matter what the Hebrews did. Catholics do not follow the Jewish ceremonial laws anymore, and for good reason.

[@paulmurray3671]

After your hateful comments about the Saturday evening Mass, I am going to make a greater effort to attend Saturday evening Masses.

[@matthewschmidt5069]

Good idea 😇

[@bactid]

Were Saturday masses meant for people who had important jobs on Sunday to meet their obligation? Jobs such as policeman, nurses, doctors, etc. Like the Friday meat abstinence, was this abused too?

[@johnnytoronto1066]

These people worked Sunday Mass into their day one way or another. Traditionally the world was pretty quiet on Sundays. Almost everything was closed, and even hospitals were slowed right down and on minimum staff. People went to Church, hung around home, pretty much stayed out of mischief. How do I know? I was there.

[@rosachu6161]

the saturday mass is absolutely been abused, misunderstand, and not well taught to the faithful, basically, people goes to mass saturday will do NOTHING on Sunday, which is the Holy day of the week, most people Do Not even pray on Sunday, they just sleep in, abuse the day off and wasted the day away😨😨😨

[@St_AngusYoung]

It was brought in for the reasons you mentioned. However, it wasn’t another obligation pinned onto the Sunday one. Catholics MAY fulfil their Sunday obligation by attending the Saturday evening mass if they choose to. They don’t have to.

[@toddpund5761]

It becomes a meal...its not Catholic!

[@johnarellano8212]

They have Saturday evening masses in the Philippines at the mall lol

[@sswogXXIII]

The neo-caticumanal way 😅

[@jamesdulany2176]

I have question in light of this video. I'll be traveling home from Europe on November 1st. I leave in the morning Europe time and will be getting home late night US time. My layovers are going to be a bit tight. What can I do with my obligation to attend Mass?

[@catholicesquire]

I'm sorry, I really can't answer that. Canon law says there has to be a grave reason and I would think being physically unable to attend would be a sufficient reason not to go, but I don't know enough details. You have make that call and if you can ask a priest ahead of time, I would do that.

[@johnnytoronto1066]

If in doubt I'd just take my Latin missal along and read it on the 'plane.

[@crusader333ad]

Some of my friends go to mass Saturday early (4m) so they can get smashed and sleep in Sunday

[@weissblau]

I've seen that, too; but you need new friends with whom you can stay and grow in virtue.

[@crusader333ad]

@@weissblau - I guess I should have said “acquaintances “.

[@johnnytoronto1066]

Woah! That sounds like a plan.....

[@christineluetgers8692]

I had a NO Catholic tell me the Mass is a meal. It’s a sacrifice. This individual said he got this info from a book on the Mass!

[@matthewschmidt5069]

You continue to attack Christ's Bride, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[@paulmurray3671]

After your ridiculous comments I am going to make a special effort to attend more Saturday evening Masses.

[@LUIS-ox1bv]

His comments were spot on. As usual. The feathers of Novus Ordites are easily ruffled.

[@johnnytoronto1066]

Fatuous. You'll probably have to look it up, Paul.

[@rosachu6161]

it is your choice, but my advice to you is, do more homework on this issue, and think about how you would answer to God when you face Him

[@marccrotty8447]

Paul. You are not compelled to watch this channel.

[@angiepicket3750]

It's sad, Paul, because you remember to capitalize Mass, but you aren't aware of what has been taken away from you in the NO ceremony. The Mass is a sacrifice not a meal. Read the Old Testament where God tells Moses how He wants to be worshipped. God bless you.